The 1990 Movie Draft

27:1189 is when Driving Miss Daisy wins over Do the Right Thing, right? And then Dances with Wolves over Goodfellas. That's a back-to-back. It's tough. Dances with Wolves is an interesting one. I can say maybe my thoughts in general if it comes up again in drafting. When you draft it? Probably not going to do what I'm going to draft. But it might be. It's not a bad movie. It's not like Driving Miss Daisy or there's something kind of offensive about it. It's actually, in revisiting it for the Horizon conversation, I think pretty sensitive in terms of its depiction of native people and the story that it's trying to tell.

27:43It centers a white guy, obviously, but it's not offensive in the way that we come to expect from movies like that. It's just not Goodfellas. Right. Okay, Amanda. Okay. Do you want to share any Goodfellas thoughts? I like it very much. Would you have taken it first overall? Yes, of course. Oh, you would have. I mean, yeah, come on. Because it's... But that would have meant not getting something that I know is important to you. Well, I think so. I think if I had had the first pick, I would have done it anyway and hoped that you didn't take revenge on me. That always goes well for us. It would have been really hard to turn it down what I presume you're taking.

28:19Yeah. I mean, I think so as well. So I will, an Oscar nominee, take Pretty Woman. Okay. Yeah. Is that not what you thought I was going to take? That's what I thought. That's definitely the movie. I wasn't sure what category. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh, probably. Well, no. When Harry Met Sally in 1989 is my number one romantic comedy of all time. But I think Pretty Woman might be number two. It's just perfect. And obviously also launches one of my favorite movie stars, Julia Roberts. Like seismically culturally important. I don't think that I was allowed to see this in 1990 because again, it is about a sex worker, as we would now say.

29:00Yeah. You know, fallen in love. You think we should go back to horror? No, I just, I'm not using the terminology of the movie. I'm using the terminology of the present day. Got it. I'm not using - Streetwalker, would that be better? It's not what - Lady of the night? Jason Alexander calls her in the film, for example. I don't remember what he calls her. I think he just looks like she's a hooker. You know, like, anyway. I was... What do you think, Chris? You think we should go back? Okay. To using those words about... No. Etymologically, you don't think they're more accurate? Sean Baker points the way.

29:37Okay. You know? Good. I agree. I was internet shopping to avoid the world earlier today. And then there was a brown polka dot dress. And I was like, oh, so should I, like, do the pretty woman dress? Should I, you know? For this episode? No, for a wedding that I'm going to. That's fun. I don't know whether it'll suit me. And then also it's a wedding of, it's a cousin's wedding. Hello, Isaac and Sammy. I'm excited. But they're younger, so I'm like, are they going to get the reference? Probably not. Yeah, that's also what I thought. They might have other things on their mind. Yes. I meant the other people.

30:10What a deep pull from Amanda. Wow, did you see Amanda's pretty woman dress? When we were getting married? I didn't mean the couple. I meant everybody else at the wedding. Who's like 23. Okay. You guys are really fun to talk to about this. Pretty Woman is a wonderful film. It is good. Who directed it? Gary Marshall? Yes. Starring Julia Robertson and Richard Gere. Gary Marshall never got his Oscar. You know, he made a couple of classics, Stone Cold classics, and then a lot of movies called like Valentine's Day. Yeah. And then like Arbor Day and a bunch of other days. That was such a strange moment in Hollywood.

30:41They were like, we got these holidays sitting right here. How are we not making movies about them? Free IP. We don't have to pay for this at all. Isn't Bradley Cooper in one of those? He is. I believe he's in Valentine's Day. Is he in Valentine's Day? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they all are. They're terrible. Gary Marshall, obviously a titan of television, helped develop Happy Days, Laverne and Shirley, a number of other shows. Pretty Woman is good. It's very good. I would have drafted it. Yeah. First? Not first, no. So, I have first pick Goodfellas. He takes something else. Yeah. A boy movie.

31:18And then, no, no, no, no, no. Something that I don't want to say because I don't want to spoil anything. And then you have two picks. Would you have taken Pretty Woman if I had Goodfellas? I think both from a quality perspective and a strategic perspective. We haven't had a knife to the heart on one of these drafts in a while. Got to get Rob back soon. You know, Rob is the one. Yeah, Rob does not care. Rob is the key holder. Rob came on Jam Session and it was very peaceful and wanted to talk about Girlboss's going to space. Were there any competitive elements to that episode of Jam Session? Were you throw that Blue Origin?

31:48no I'm wildly against it and Yassi and I will be dealing with it on Jam Session tomorrow what is the issue when all the Lauren Sanchez and Katy Perry going into space and Gail King oh right yeah they all went to space I was invited I turned them down I said no thank you the one guy I'm an ally even in space I can be an ally what do you guys call prostozoos just making small talk here on the landing pad uh okay you get two here bud two picks two picks what kind of damage can you do hmm the wrecking ball yeah I mean I think there's a big one for you that I don't think I want to take away that I don't think is necessary to take away at this stage don't be like that because I gotta get I'm a big boy you came in here with like a little a little teardrop in your throat and I wanna I got your back today my voice is just tired for some reason already but you don't have to worry about my I have the fortitude see this right here yeah these are wings you can get on top of I'll fly you all the way home.

32:48Never says that to me, just so you know. Even when he gives me something, he's like, fine, you can have it. Maybe if you shared the same vulnerability that Chris showed me this morning. If you opened up and said, you know, it's been a tough day. What I need from you is love and support. She said she was shopping to avoid the world. Yeah, the world. I'm not sure if I would define that as vulnerability. Okay. You were like, I'm on my wedding game, right? I mean, I do need a dress, but, you know, it's fine. I'll get one later. You didn't find one? No, I didn't. What's your first stop? I mean, this is a real issue with tariffs.

33:24I know, like, and a bunch of, I had a lot of, you know, there's like Net-A-Porter and My Teresa and all these places. Timu. Yeah, Timu, as you know. And I had a bunch of things saved in my wish list, and many of them disappeared because they got pulled because they're made in China. Interesting. I'm, of course, having an issue with this naturally in the world of physical media. Sure. when you're acquiring international editions the tariffs are a real factor in terms of pricing it's a challenge to me the sad part about that is the actual like independent retailers who work super hard to get like international editions of discs into their stores that like they're getting hammered by this stuff it's obviously an absolute drop in the bucket relative to the real life experience of so many people but it's affecting all the things that we're interested in okay my picks um

34:14In Blockbuster, I'm going to go with Total Recall, which is one of Paul Verhoeven's masterpieces. Strong case for it being Arnold Schwarzenegger's best movie. Kind of neck and neck, I think, with the Terminator films. A very exciting film to see in 1990 as a 13-year-old. I'll bet. Not one, not two, but three-breasted woman appears in this film, which I can imagine blew young Chris's mind. Didn't know it was possible. In addition, like just a riveting sci-fi story that is like really walks this very delicate line between schlock and incisive satire. Very funny performance from Sharon Stone as a wife who is not to be trusted.

34:56What do we think Verhoeven is trying to say with that? That predates her appearance in Basic Instinct. Schwarzenegger, like very, very comfortable. Cracking lines on dudes while also cracking skulls. and when he's put in a position to succeed like this, like you tend to get extremely memorable movies. This is just one of the best sci-fi, satire, borderline comedies of its era. So that's Blockbuster. There's obviously a couple of other categories that could have gone in, but Blockbuster is kind of funky and I'm looking forward to talking through it with you guys. Okay. There are obviously a few in there that will work very well, but I think I'm going to take one of those off the board right now by just taking in comedy Home Alone since it is...

35:39I was going to do it if you didn't. Yeah. You know, a very meaningful movie to me personally. We did an episode of it on the Rewatchables with Mina Kimes. It was very fun. And Macaulay Culkin fucking with Daniel Stern and Joe Pesci for one hour is remarkable. The actual framework of the movie is very upsetting. And I think about it often as... Oh, about like leaving Alice Home Alone and how she would handle it. We don't have like nine kids. They were shuttling a lot of children into those cars go to the airport. a little bit more liability on you. And a little, frankly, a little hard to accept if you want to look at the movie realistically.

36:12Well, we were latchkey kids back then. That's true. you know what I mean? They let us rock. And Kevin McAllister, you know, he was an iconoclast. He wanted his own space. He wanted his own time. He wanted his own cheese pizza. You know, he wanted his own time. He didn't want to get pissed on by Kieran. No, no. And he didn't want Buzz to terrorize him. And Home Alone is a classic. Did you grow to have Buzz's room with the tarantula and the baseball cards? Would you say Buzz was your kind of model? No, I never had my own room. So I always shared a room with my brother growing up. So I wouldn't know what that's like.

36:46You say that like you're a Dickens character. Yeah, it's the poor boy in an orphanage living with my brother. No, it was great to share a room with my brother. But I literally have never had my own room. I think I've talked about this on the podcast. Oh, yeah. Because I had like roommates in college. Yeah. And then moved in with my girlfriend right at a college. Right. That explains a lot about you. You're just like constantly seeking your own space because you've never had a room of one's own. Yeah. So you're just like, get away from me, everybody. I just need some time with my spreadsheets. The spreadsheets are the walls that you build to keep us out.

37:23Maybe. I mean, to my mind, it's kept you in. It's kept you involved. These spreadsheets have worked out. The other day, Zach asked me, he's like, hey, where do you look for a date of film releases? He's like, what's your favorite website? And I was like, Sean's spreadsheet. You know? So I have respect for it. Yeah. Hopefully it's benefited all of us here. So I'll take Home Alone in comedy. Good comedy year, but feels like the right place to take it. I appreciate what you just did there. You know that American-Russian relations are one of my core interests, as are. it's not your turn take my hand because it's my turn oh it's going back yeah you can do it I understand I'm sorry it's also it's a little thin on the ground right in action horror thriller I think I got confused because of the way we're sitting versus what the order is I'm sorry go ahead well I'm sorry I have a deep bit and I didn't do it first this is roughly the 85th draft we've done out of respect I have actually started to wonder whether or not I have a brain tumor when it comes to drafts because I fucked up the draft in Bill's pod like live on stage and I was just like, it's my turn, right?

38:29Like eight times. That did happen. And I don't know what's going on. Are you okay? I think so. No matter what happens, early onset dementia, some sort of degenerative issue. You're going to pod me until I'm... I will put you in that chair and make sure that you record all of your nonsense dribbling into perpetuity. But I'm like, Mike Figgis' internal affairs. Oh, come up. Go ahead. All right, Amanda, it is your turn now. I just I'm trying to justify my cruelness, my cruelty. You're allowed to like this. I mean, I love this movie, but it is also we added a sequel into the mix. So that takes away especially some action movies.

39:09Not to not to tip a hand there. So I will be taking in action horror thriller The Hunt for Red October, which is a movie I love dearly. and is really the only submarine environment that I would ever want to be a part of. Even Crimson Tide is too tough for me. Why would you want to be on a Russian sub? No, I just, you know, they have respect for each other, you know? Who does? There's like an...

39:40All the Russians smoking on each other? Oh, Sam Neill and Sean Connery, you know? They murder their political officer in the first scene. Well, sometimes they have to do what you got to do. They have respect for each other. Okay. You know? Sometimes you just want to be on a team with one other guy. Do you think that you would be down with defecting? Like, do you think that, like, you would be, like, part of, like, the group of guys that were defecting? Or would you have wanted to get offloaded in a fake nuclear reaction situation? Like, you know me. Because, like, anytime I could just be like, fuck that to anyone.

40:12Right. I would absolutely. I don't really like authority very much. So I would be happy to defect. I think that one of the happiest places you ever would have been would be if you were the sonar operator on the Dallas. Just got your roll of paper towels, just cleaning off your screen, listening to Paganini, you know? I feel that you guys have isolated me on this podcast as an antisocial weirdo. No, I just think that that would be a job that you were really good at. You're just like, bang, got it. Could I listen at 2X? if I could listen to the sonar pings at 2x I think I'd be more comfortable The Hunt for Red October is fantastic Chris has been lobbying for it to be on the rewatchables I can't believe that it hasn't been I know it was up for a vote I even watched the movie that he needed he was like you have to watch inside movies and I did yeah did you like it?

41:00yeah it was good yeah no this is a peak rewatchable in my house because we were big on like all the Jack Ryan Tom Clancy stuff like my parents read those books along with the Grisham stuff And this was the first of the Jack Ryans. And then Alec Baldwin, of course, was recast. Look what they took from us. Harrison Ford. Now, that's an interesting... There's probably a wider Jack Ryan pod to be done. Because you probably prefer Harrison Ford, Jack Ryan as a specimen. Sure. With his little neckerchief. I do. But this is obviously better than any of the Harrison Ford movies, in my opinion. I'm quite fond of Clear and Present Danger.

41:38I think this is better. Yeah. But I think Clear and Present Danger is good. Patriot Games, I'm a little mixed on. first one. What about The Sum of All Fears? Oh, when Ben Affleck throws up Baltimore? Then he becomes, wait, did we verify that he becomes president at the end? You told me that on a different draft. Jack wins, becomes president at a certain point in the Tom Clancy novels. I can't remember if in Sum of All Fears he is like the designated survivor basically. What is his current status on the show? Jack Ryan's? like what's up with him? Oh, like on the TV show? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He keeps going into South America and doing some dastardly deeds.

42:14Yeah. I will just say, in Alec Baldwin Industries, this is an amazing time. What a year. 1988 through 1993, Alec Baldwin is phenomenal. I mean, you don't have to tell me. It's phenomenal. When's Malice? This is the shape of it. It's Beetlejuice, Married to the Mob, Working Girl, Great Balls of Fire, The Hunt for Red October, Miami Blues, Alice, the Woody Allen movie, The Marrying Man, Glengarry Glen Ross, and Malice. Yeah. That's a run. That's a great, at the time I think everybody thought he was going to be whatever Clark Gable or something and it didn't obviously didn't turn out that way but great range lots of different kinds of movies good action hero great comedy star great like dirt baggy you know crime noir movie guy obviously he's set up very weird now he's on TLC with like 12 kids I've not been watching no I'm not watching it yeah there's a lot of mockery of that show out in the world but I haven't seen any of it he was a good Jack Ryan I thought I enjoyed him yeah great movie Okay.

43:11One ping only. My turn now. Chris, you've got two. Okay. I will take in drama a film. I recently began my own physical media collection. Oh, God. Did I tell you this?

43:25And I realized how important this film was to me because of how quickly it was like, I got to get this to start. First on your list. Miller's Crossing, which I will have in drama. It is, I think, four out of seven days of the week, my favorite cohen brother movie is the first one i saw okay it was a mind-altering experience to watch this on vhs whatever year i saw it like it was pretty close to 90 if it wasn't 90 um and is still such a mesmerizing unique take on you know 1930s and 40s fast-talking noir movies very much rooted in dashel hammett stars gabriel byrne as like kind of a michael clayton irish mobster who's working for Albert Finney's gangster, like the leader of the Irish mob, and he flits back and forth between rival factions of the underworld.

44:15But an incredible Marsha Gay Harden performance, like a star-making Turturro performance. Really great early Buscemi. All the great Coen brothers' faces are in this movie. And I still say lines from this movie to this day. It's a five-star classic. One of those beautiful scores. Carter Burwell just an amazing I'm I honestly didn't hear anything that you were saying because I was thinking about physical media yeah why you know what's really nice is he like now pretty routinely will be like I have these three would you like would you like them I've been giving my like my duplicates and my stuff that I don't need to Chris what inspired this I started finding that the versions of movies that I would be watching for instance for rewatchables on like any of the streaming services like were pretty obviously degraded or just not as good as I think they could be.

45:05And I think because we'd seen a couple of things in theaters recently, like rep theater stuff, like when we went and saw Thief, I was like, this is way better than Thief was when I watched it for the rewatchables. So I just, I got a player and then I got like a couple of like, you know, Days of Heaven. Where'd you start? Okay. Like Heat, you know, the ones that you would think, Seven, you know, like the ones that were kind of like core texts, but they're just so obviously like better products. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I understand. But I only I think I'm going to keep it pretty, pretty normal.

45:35Like I want the library of movies that I will watch over and over again. And then some stuff where I'm like, oh, this is really interesting. And I got it at a good price or whatever. I think you're pursuing a cool version of it, which is like, obviously, I'm completely mentally ill and need to seek help. You're, you know, basically capturing your all time favorites. and honestly with the way that the 4Ks look now like these movies have never looked better than since when they were first shown on film in theaters and then also just like really weird stuff that you otherwise would never see like Italian 70s crime movies or something like that and just saying like I'm gonna take a chance on these three movies and then for three months this is like one of my hobbies it's just like buying a book where you're just like this is what I'm gonna do with my free time with this book for these three months I mean I'm concerned you've got him you've got Tim you've got like Tracy all around you One of our great playwrights, one of our great actors, Tim.

46:27I mean, I think I said this on the Minecraft episode. The boys are back. Boys are back. No, I said it on the Warfare episode. It's boys time. Yeah, it is boys town. The boys and their toys are back in town. And you need to just make room for us, make space for us. Start fitting Knox for a master's green jacket. That's exactly right. Start fitting him for a movie theater chair in your house. He went to the driving range after. That's how it goes. and you watch and you're like, I want to do it. Yes, I want to wear that jacket, that hideous green jacket one day so I can be a part of that club, you know?

47:01I just want to say I've had a lot of listeners just like DMing me about skincare and I have felt seen and supported by that and I want to thank everyone. Those are all my alts. I just make up different. You know what? One of them was about Augustinus Peter. Really? So there you go, yeah. Okay, so. You've got another fan. CR, which category did you take that in? That's a drama, bud. Drama. Thanks for asking. I really looked out for you. Fully. I did. And Amanda as well. What do you mean? I felt Amanda would be interested in Hunt for Out of October as well. So I went home alone, you know, in the spirit of good potting.

47:40Yeah. We're trying to lift each other up today, despite Amanda and I sniping at each other as usual. Let's just, listen, that's... It's part of the game. You know. It's part of life. I think for... So I have Millers and Drama and Goodfellas and Oscar. That's a pretty strong lineup. I'll take just to get one here.

48:07I'm going to grab Days of Thunder and Action. No, I'm going to do Days of Thunder and Blockbuster. I'm sorry. Days of Thunder and Blockbuster. Okay, great. That's good because that category is getting a little thin. Yeah, I just recently did this on rewatchables and it's essentially just Top Gun with cars. But god damn it. There are frames of this movie that will make your heart explode with patriotism and love of cinema and what Tony Scott gave us and what Tom Cruise gave us. And just the sequences of the car, the races, the NASCAR races alone are worth it. Obviously this is Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman's union on screen.

48:51Yes. And quite exciting. She plays a neurologist. Yeah, I remember. A neurosurgeon. She's 23 years old in this movie, isn't she? Did you hear the bit where she went to Jerry Bruckheimer and Don Simpson and said she really wanted to do a lot of research on neurosurgery and they said, don't bother?

49:12Checks out. So I'll take that in blockbuster. Okay, good pick. Days of Thunder made$82 million at the box office just in Under the Wire. Total Recall made$119 million. And did you take your Blockbuster yet? No, I'm about to though because it's my pick. Fire away. In Blockbuster, I will take Presumed Innocent. Intriguing. Ooh. Yeah. Okay. You've left yourself open. Have I? Perhaps this isn't a film that matters to you. Um, oh, sure. But, you know, that's, I know, I know what you think that I would take but yes I would like to have I know you love Presumed Innocent Harrison Ford in a legal thriller yeah I thought you were going to say something else I would love to have Harrison Ford in a robe I guess we talked a lot about this film when we were all watching the remake on Apple which strong start and then really really didn't didn't bear out luckily they didn't reproduce the ending of the film.

50:19So I guess no spoiler. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. I thought a lot to recommend. Sure. A very disappointing final couple of episodes for that series. Anyway, no spoilers if you haven't seen. It did launch Chase Infinity, future PTA star. That's true. Of one battle after another. That's true. Anyway, if you haven't seen the film version of Presumed Innocent, it's a little different. But also the same. And Dynamite. So good. And that type of like airport novel Well, with respect to Scott Trow, I do think I'm going to this summer read all the Scott Trow novels. Chronologically? Or will you go best off? Well, I think this is the first one, so I'll probably start with two.

50:56Okay. You know? You feel like you got this one. Take me back. I don't know if the suspense would be there and the mystery. But I spent a lot of time watching 90s movies, studio movies, starring movie stars adapted from things that you read in the airport. and had a fantastic time. Bonnie Bedelia? Dynamite. Great year for her? Yeah. Maybe talking more about her soon? No spoilers. Yeah. Please. She's a strong screen presence for sure. Okay. I have two picks. Hmm. Where to go here? Well, I don't think anyone's going to take my drama. I could be wrong about that, but I don't think so. So I will start with Oscar nominee.

51:49And I will take Ghost. Yeah. Okay. Starring Demi Moore and Academy Award winner Whoopi Goldberg. I'm deleting it off a list now. The late great Patrick Swayze. Do you agree with Bill Simmons that this is an accurate portrayal of the afterlife? I think what he says is that this is what happens when you die and they bring you to hell. No, it's either darkness and you get yanked to hell or light. I don't believe in the afterlife. So, no. Okay. But I'm not ruling anything out. Do I think that there are like shadow goblins that come and rip you into the earth? Yeah. I don't think that. But when I saw this movie, and I saw this movie probably at home when I was nine.

52:31I saw this movie on a date. That's awesome. Good for you. How'd that go? Did you seal the deal? I'll tell you what happened. I got broken up with by this girl as we were like going into this movie and I was quite rude about the film because of that. Wait, I don't understand. Why did you go? Like it was like a group date and like I was dating a girl in sixth grade or whatever and she was like, we're not dating anymore and I was like, fuck. And I was so mad. Did you still sit next to each other? Yeah. Oh, that sucks. I basically tried to ruin her experience. Oh, okay. Not the most mature response.

53:03This is really... I was in sixth grade. pretty fucking mature can you just say her name out loud on this episode it was Elle McPherson

53:17I never forgot good for you Ghost is a wonderful movie and was back in the news when Demi Moore was doing a lot of press for The Substance and it was interesting to hear her talk about that because she gives such a great performance in that movie and she's not great in a lot of movies in that era. She was always a kind of interesting movie star and a complicated movie actor. And that part is really hard to pull off. And it's such a strange mixture of like heavy romance and a movie about grief and a supernatural thriller and all this complex stuff and the Tony Golden character is so over the top and ridiculous.

53:53Tough 90s for him. And continuing on. He appears to be not a very nice man in one battle after another actually. But I always really liked this movie. And I

54:05I, it's like a high concept, low execution, mainstream movie, which I think is something that is a little bit lost that when we get stuff like that, I try to put a little bit of like a red circle around it. So I want to give it a shout. What's the last commercially released real like romantic tear jerker? So not like Aftersun, but like a movie where like there's a lot of tears being shed because of like a romantic relationship, albeit maybe a doomed one. but like I mean it ends with us was like this yeah like that that's kind of what that was playing our tears were for different reasons yeah on that one I didn't feel that way um I'm trying to think I mean the first thing that like all the Nicholas Sparks movies I think which includes The Notebook but they kept making those did um Channing Tatum and Rachel McAdams made one like 2010 but I can't think of anything in the last 10 years Ironclaw well sure I mean that was a classic male week it was it really was though.

55:02I think the romantic tearjerker that is well regarded is unusual. And in this era that wasn't so much the case. The era of like James L. Brooks and Nora Ephron and you've got these writers who have like a real knack for this kind of thing. Mike Nichols movies are really good at that. But yeah, I don't know. It feels very far away. To me, it's because it has that like horror thriller element to it that I really enjoy the complexity of the genre types mixed together. All right. So I have another pick. And a very interesting turn from, was this David Zucker directed this? Yes, exactly. Which is obviously like one of the great comic filmmakers.

55:41Director of Airplane and Top Secret and all those movies. Okay. I think I'll go to thriller horror action here. A number of cool choices. I'll take Misery. I think Misery is the best movie of the bunch. Stephen King adaptation, Kathy Bates and James Caan story about it's kind of like if a CR head met Chris in the street and decided to break his ankles so that he couldn't leave their home. And do you fear that? No, not at all. You don't fear being abducted by a fan? I don't. No, I don't think I have that kind of effect on people. What if it was just like a really well-meaning but mentally damaged 50-year-old man who lifts weights all day?

56:27Why isn't it? just like a real of mice and men situation you know oh like I'm the rabbit yeah yeah what like would it be okay how would you would you be able to have empathy in that experience I would try yeah this is a strange conversation topic misery obviously very funny because obviously Stephen King writing about like basically his worst nightmare what would happen if he found himself in the throes of a fan who took things too far and Kathy Bates like really really sells the insanity of this part adapted by the great William Goldman directed by Rob Reiner Rob Reiner in the midst of one of the most remarkable runs of crowd pleasing movies in the late 80s and early 90s you don't have to say it like that what do you mean?

57:14crowd pleasing? you know he shall return this year with Spinal Tap 2 I saw oh yeah coming out this fall any thoughts? I'll see it we're excited for it yeah I once saw Rob Reiner eating at a restaurant in Hawaii with his family, he looked very happy. He looked like a very, very happy person. Is he still tweeting? I think he's off that platform. Okay. Is he on Blue Sky? Yeah. No, he just went to True Social. He went to see what was happening over there just to get an inside look. It's really interesting when you, the way that you feel the need to answer the call, you know, you sense like, okay, Chris's voice, you know, Chris isn't really feeling it.

57:56And this is what you fill the void with. I'm feeling it today. Do I, does it seem like I'm not feeling it? It doesn't matter. I've got your back no matter what. This is a performance. It's important that we perform. No, I think you're doing a great job. I'm just, you know, it's a new character that's jumping out. It's my turn? Yeah. Yes. Okay. There are two things I could do here, but I think I'm going to draft with my heart instead of strategically. and so and well comedy is also a little thinner so in comedy I'm going to take Metropolitan good almost went with this with Oscar oh yeah that also would have been good this is the Whit Stillman the first in the Whit Stillman trilogy about young overly educated rich kids or mostly rich kids sitting in rooms trying to impress each other and being miserable with their lives and I did not see this when I was five, but I saw it when I was young.

59:01Around the same time, I think I saw Whit Stillman and Noah Baumbach's Kicking and Screaming. All of the 90s on Wii movies were handed to me, probably in high school. And yeah, they were pretty important. I was like, wow. I didn't know you could do this with a movie. I didn't know that there were people out there who wanted to be like this and are terrible, but also seem to, you know, value being terrible in the same way that I would. And like, how do I get to be near them? Very incisive. Look at your psychology. Like, what can I do about this? How can I be around the people who make movies like this?

59:38How can I be around people who like movies like this? So this was, I mean, it's a classic. I think we all love this one. Oh, yeah. It's a great movie. Is this your, where does this rank in the wit filmography for you? Uh, it's probably one. And then Last Days of Disco, two. Not a Barcelona person? No, I like Barcelona. You're making me rank them. You know, there's a one, two, and three when you rank them. I like all of them. And I think I did also watch them chronologically. So there just is that first moment of like, oh. But I think if you say Whit Stillman, you think of all of them in that living room at the party.

1:00:22Yes. like bickering with each other. You think of literary criticism. I was just going to say, reading literary criticism so you don't have to read the book. Yeah, Chris Igerman. Just my whole personality. Just all time. Yeah, that's my whole, I just based my whole thing on that. And so he's obviously in this, kicking and screaming, and also on Gilmore Girls right around this time. So Chris Igerman was just everywhere in my life. Very important to me, which I think says a lot about me. He's terrific. Yeah. All right, so I'm going to pick in comedy. I'm going to pick House Party directed by Reginald Hudlin starring Kid and Play, the rap duo at the time Robin Harris, Tisha Campbell this was like my Dazed and Confused before Dazed and Confused came out I mentioned that I was pretty into rap at the time but I was really defining my personality off of this and this was, it's essentially like one crazy night movie about these two guys who were trying to get to a house party that one of their fathers forbids them from going to.

1:01:25And their, like, loves and their dreams and their hopes, but also, like, a ton of really, really funny comic stuff happening in it. But it was just, like, such a perfect slice of life and also, like, the immediacy of getting to see, like, you know, rap culture reflected on screen like that was pretty amazing at the time. you know Reginald Hudlin is was like a huge I guess kind of a big deal filmmaker for me at this time when I think about it maybe as one of my first favorite filmmakers in some ways you know like big boomerang guy well I think it was just like I would recognize his name and the movies were like very they felt like kind of urgent at the time but this was like this was like a real like rewatch 55 times I do think I saw this in the theater it was a big deal for me and my friends R.I.P.

1:02:17Robin Harris one of the greatest ever do it he's very funny in this movie my kid and play movie was always maybe just the slight age difference was always class act that was the one that I always watched I don't know if you ever saw that one Amanda where they like the two guys like switch roles they like need each other inside the school sorry I just googled it yes oh yeah which I'm not saying is objectively a better movie than House Party but it was always the one that I wanted to watch and also featured Karen Parsons who was on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and I always thought she was really beautiful.

1:02:47Okay. You got one more pick, Chris. Okay. House Party is classic. Did you see the House Party remake? No. Was it good? No. Okay. For...

1:03:00Let's do action horror thriller here, right? You don't have that? What do you have? I have drama, comedy, Oscar, and blockbuster. Deep bench for horror action thriller because there are so many thrillers this year. This is an amazing time for the Hollywood thriller.

1:03:23Can I call King of New York a thriller? I think so. And I will take it as a thriller. Okay, great. Abel Ferrer's New York crime story. This is a great year for gangster movies. I could have picked three or four of them. But I'll take this one. Probably the most illicit movie I had ever seen at the time. Like when I saw this on video. Like I had never seen certain things, certain acts committed on the subway. Like I did in King of New York. and one of the iconic Christopher Walken performances along with like an incredible ensemble cast. But this is probably peak Ferreira for me. And it's just an awesome New York gangster movie.

1:04:05It's one of my favorite movies of all time. We did a great Rewatchables episode about it with Quentin Tarantino about five years ago. Insane bench on this movie. Unbelievable. Caruso, young Wesley Snipes, Victor Argo, Larry Fishburne honestly beautiful just really dark upsetting movie about what happens when a guy gets out of prison and is taking his corners back yeah huge fan of this movie okay Amanda okay I have what do you have left so I have sequel drama and wild card left so I still can't do this with my hands no one has taken it. No one is taking Sequel. I just can't do it. But yeah, you can do it.

1:04:54But Nox can do it. Okay, Sequel, no one has anything. I'm going to go ahead and get it off the board. And I'm going to take Die Hard 2. Because that way I don't have to take Look Who's Talking To. Which was number two on my list and germane to my life right now because it's about potty training. But Die Hard 2, this is the one at the airport. When's the last time you saw it? I think we had to rank the Die Hard movies a few years ago. Okay. Didn't we? Do you feel like you want airports to go back to this era? When you can show up and roam around. And I mean, I definitely need a decrease in airport security now that I'm traveling with two children.

1:05:36Yeah, because like otherwise we are going to get arrested. Yeah. Because Knox just beelines for every, he's like trying to get on every plane at this point. And he like sees like the security keypad, you know, and he's just like going to press some numbers and then like bolt through it like the kid in Love Actually. So yeah, I mean, I'm okay with it. Maybe there is a Home Alone IP exploration we could do called Plane Alone where it just knocks. In the sky. Yeah, in the sky. Solo. Just flying. Turn on autopilot. Die Hard 2, I like it. It's fun. It's insane. Sure. Very insane. There's a very, very wildly upsetting plane crash in this movie.

1:06:19when they turn the lights out. Yeah. Rennie Harlan in fuck it mode saying we don't care about good taste in our Die Hard movie. Sure. I think, yeah. It was so inconceivable back then. When William Sadler is nude doing karate yoga at the beginning, are you like, that's a life goal? I think Matt Damon was. It's true. I think Matt Damon was like, that's the body of Odysseus. And do you think General Ramon Esperanza as portrayed by Frank O 'Neill had some good ideas about the body politics? We don't know what his platform is. He was silenced. Yeah, that's two Bonnie Bedelia movies for Amanda. Yeah, that's right.

1:06:57I think kind of some similar energy. I mean, I know she's blonde, so, you know, it's... Similar energy to you or her two characters in this film have similar energy? I guess I was going character based. Yeah, I think that... You being similar to the lady in Presumed Innocent is very amusing. Well, I was going to say, both could be achieved. She takes the law into her own hands in both films. Yeah, which you know I'd like to do. Yeah. Okay, so I have two picks. The categories I'm missing, I'm also missing sequel. I'm missing drama, and I'm missing wild card. Wow, wild card is just rippling with possibilities.

1:07:37My word. In drama, easy one I waited. I'm taking David Lynch's Wild at Heart, which is a beautiful movie that is borderline insane starring Nicolas Cage and Laura Dern. It is kind of a romance, kind of an action movie, kind of a blanket homage to Wizard of Oz. Thought about taking it an Oscar nominee, Diane Ladd, Laura Dern's mother, is in this movie playing kind of like the Wicked Witch in some ways, trying to track down these two young lovers on this crazy road trip. Nick Cage just in full snakeskin boot rock and roll fake Elvis mode electrifying this is probably one of the first movies I ever saw that shifted the expectations totally of a studio movie of like a star movie where just like when you're watching a David Lynch movie and everything just feels a little bit tilted five or seven degrees and you can't totally figure out why or even what he's trying to do by making it feel that way but it's not so it's not you know Inland Empire it's not so weird that you can't follow the narrative of the story.

1:08:44But I remember very specifically that staircase scene with Diane Ladd just being so upsetting and weird and the smear of the lipstick. So this movie won the Palme d 'Or that year and has gone on to be legendary. Although I wouldn't say it's in my upper, upper echelon for Lynch. It's still truly great. That's drama. I guess we'll go to sequel.

1:09:08Now, I don't want to step on your pick, But there are not one, not two, not three, not four, but five sequels to legendary, iconic Hollywood, new Hollywood films. Five films that absolutely changed movies and five films that I feel inspired by, that I love to this day. that I'm so interested in. And I'm not going to choose a sequel to any of those movies in this category. I'm taking Gremlins 2, The New Batch. Okay, good.

1:09:48Which is just one of my favorite movies ever. Joe Dante's sequel. What happens in Gremlins 2, The New Batch? Are they working at Gimbles? I'm really glad you asked. Is this like a classic Gremlins 2 is way better than Gremlins? Like is that among the Gremlins heads? Like that's a real... Well, Gremlins is a wonderful movie that is a movie about a small town. And like working class family in a small town, a father who's an inventor, who's trying to get his son, you know, set up in the new world. The new batch. The new batch of gremlins. The new batch of gremlins. I'm ready to share with you some thoughts about those gremlins.

1:10:24The first one was a small film, written by Chris Columbus. The second film, you know, produced by Spielberg and Joe Dante and this interesting triumvirate of characters. the second film is set basically in Trump Tower yeah a department store right? it's sort of like an everything skyscraper that you can sort of visit that's a TV station that has a restaurant inside of it and you know the characters from the first film are both working inside of this tower when the gremlins are introduced to the tower Mogwai comes in and gives birth to gremlins and the gremlins are introduced into the building.

1:11:04And then because of all the technology in the building and because of all the influences of media, a lot of different kinds of gremlins are created. There's like a vegetable gremlin. There's like a vampire gremlin. There's an electricity gremlin. There's all these weird - Why is there a vegetable gremlin? Because there's like a cooking show where there are vegetables. Okay. It's like, it's complete batshit. Someone has to ask the question, Chris. There's a legendary Key and Peele sketch about Gremlins 2 that is so funny that if you watch it, you can see Jordan Peele and the character that he's playing as like the studio executive explaining Gremlins 2 to a group of people at a studio that shows you why Jordan Peele is now who Jordan Peele is.

1:11:47Right. Because he gets the joke and the mechanics of this movie so well. Gremlins 2 is ridiculous. If you go in thinking it's like a serious, scary creature movie. I never thought that about Gremlins. You will misunderstand it. to me it's like one of the cleverest if not the most clever movie about like the scary future of America just using Gremlins as the stand-in for the problem John Glover plays the Trump stand-in he's a very benevolent Trump stand-in but it is a truly magical movie so Gremlins 2 the new batch okay that's beautiful thank you is it my turn it's your turn no I am what was your first pick My first pick was Wild at Heart.

1:12:29Oh, sure. Right. Okay. Wild at Heart and Gremlins 2. Very normal stuff. Those are me-coded. So I have drama and wild card left. And in drama, I will take Postcards from the Edge. Yeah. Which is a Mike Nichols film written by Carrie Fisher, adapted from her semi-autobiographical novel. Did you read it? I've never read it, actually. I've never, I don't think, I guess I did read Wishful Drinking was, I read some form of Wishful Drinking. But, and so anyway, this movie stars Meryl Streep and Shirley MacLaine in the Carrie Fisher and Debbie Reynolds-esque roles. and is about Meryl Streep is a movie star who gets sent to rehab for a cocaine problem and then is released on the terms that she lives with her mother, who is like an old Hollywood star.

1:13:31In order to get like bonded. Yeah, in order to like get insurance to be able to keep working. And it is about moms and daughters and addiction and Hollywood and also just like star power. There are several musical sequences in this where including one absolutely incredible Shirley MacLaine performance. The dinner party. Yeah, the dinner party. Yeah. So painful. So painful to watch. It's so painful and amazing. But then also what Meryl Streep is doing in that scene watching her and hating her and loving her. there aren't a lot of great mother-daughter movies in history because of mostly men make movies or have historically but this one really nails it and is wonderful and incredible like the last sequence also with Meryl Streep and her performance just like really memorable it is like mostly just kind of like observed moments rather than like any big narrative you know really great dialogue really well like there's a couple of really great overlapping dialogue scenes where like they're both talking at the same time exactly you know who's fantastic in this movie Gene Hackman such a small performance but so so so good in this good Rob Reiner too good Rob Reiner Richard Dreyfuss Annette Bening is in this movie young Dennis Quaid Annette Bening one scene is incredibly funny Oliver Platt Michael Onkeen there's like a ton of people in this movie I mean it's Mike Nichols one of my faves okay good pick CR, you've got...

1:15:13I got sequel and wildcard. Two left. And sequel is a tough one. I mean, I can read you the list. I know the three. There's a long list. This is an interesting list. Okay. Because to me, it strikes me as a collision of the shit bird 80s and the boomery 70s trying to reclaim their mantle. So the post-80s crowd, Amanda already took Die Hard 2, arguably the best of the bunch from that particular crop. You've also got Predator 2. You've also got another 48 Hours. You've also got RoboCop 2 and Young Guns 2, not to mention Three Men and a Little Lady and Look Who's Talking 2. Three Men and a Little Lady was also on my list.

1:16:01There's two other movies there, though. Now, there's a bunch of other movies that are 70s sequels. Yes. So among them, of course, there's The Godfather Part 3, one of the most memorable or one of the most notable ones. But you've also got Texas Phil, which is the last picture show sequel. You've got the Two Jakes, which is the Chinatown sequel. You've got The Exorcist 3. Yes. You've also got Leatherface, the Texas Chainsaw Massacre 3. And you've got Rocky 5. That's a lot of sequels to major historical movies. Yeah. Well, I'm going to be selecting Exorcist 3. Okay. I do like Godfather Part 3, but Exorcist 3 is one of the great horror movies.

1:16:36I think ever made, honestly. One of the scariest jump scares still to this day that I've ever seen. I won't spoil it for people, but it is essentially William Peter Blatty who wrote the novel for The Exorcist or the novel that The Exorcist is based on. He, after the horror show that happened with Exorcist 2, directed Exorcist 3. It stars George C. Scott as a detective who is investigating the possibility of a serial killer that he thought long dead has come back to terrorize Georgetown. and it ties in with The Exorcist 1 with the father from the priest from the first movie but it's just got like kind of to your point about Wild at Heart there are some scenes and some ways of doing things in this movie that are like 8 % stranger than your usual Hollywood horror movie or Hollywood film you know across the board and those that 8 % makes this film so memorable like the agonizing tension it builds up some of the religious imagery some of the you know admittedly corny but like really breathtaking in conception special effects like the interrogation scene just incredible stuff have you seen the ninth configuration William Peter Vladi's directorial debut no very interesting movie starring Stacy Keach I think it's about astronauts who come back from space travel and are mentally tortured very very interesting interesting sorry

1:18:10and you wonder why there's no mother daughter movies I'm sorry it was just like we can make a mother daughter movie but what do astronauts feel when they come back like what's the SNL it's like coffee talk you know yeah and it was just like the two of you but just as soon as you started saying like the final configuration and you guys are just like whatever that's called It's something about this desk that, you know, it's like you can only be in a one-on-one convo. It's hard. I agree with you that the ninth configuration. Honestly, just was so kind during the postcards from the edge, glossing.

1:18:44And then as soon as I say the ninth configuration, just literally laughing. It's just really embarrassing. Okay. So did you take your wild card yet? No. You have a wild card. No, you have two. Wait. Yeah, so once we had seven. We mess up the math. Well, I think this snake is going to be a little weird. So what happens then? So I only need one more pick, so then I think it goes to you. Do you have two or one? No, because Chris has one more, right? Yeah. On the turn here, right? And then I'll be done. He'll be done, and then you'll have one. Oh, okay. And then it works? Oh, great. Okay. I think that's right.

1:19:21I don't know. I can't really count. Wild card, wild card, wild card. Well. Yeah, I think that's right. Okay.

1:19:31I am going to pick a movie that I was not allowed to see when it came out and was like titillated by like just in terms of like seeing pictures from from its making and the set but like did not see until much later and that is the cook the thief the wife and her lover Peter Greenaway this is the second Peter Greenaway movie I've taken I took one in 1982 as well the draftsman contract this is one of the most sumptuous beautifully shot movies and one of the most loveliest scores Michael Nyman his score for this film I play it like very often at my house Helen Mirren Michael Gambon a very young Tim Roth in a fucked up story of lust and love and greed and gluttony and I would recommend I mean if anybody has even the most passing curiosity of this filmmaker or this is the best place to enter.

1:20:27Although I will say, caution, mature subjects are described and shown in this film. For trade, for sure. But this is so beautiful. The cinematography and specifically the camera movements, the conception of the world that was built up on sets and a room will be painted entirely red. Helen Mirren will be wearing a red dress. And the way he uses color, he truly sees film the way a fine artist does. and I just recommend people check this out if they haven't seen it. When you say that you weren't allowed to see it, like, did you try? There's like a scene where Michael Gammon just like has his hand on Helen Mirren's breast at the dinner table and I remember like kind of like catching that out of the core of my eye and being like, what's going on there?

1:21:11Yeah. My dad being like, just watch Goodfellas again. I think it was like in a book about movies, there was just like a lot of like stills from Peter Greenway movies of like naked people and I was like, what is going down here. He's an erotic British man. Yeah. So am I. You truly are. You truly are. This is a great movie. Beautiful movie. But also very gross. And there's a lot of eating. It's sort of disgusting. Michael Gambon, a tour de force in this movie. He is amazing and has a lot of weight to carry because he's just talking throughout the whole movie as this sort of crime boss figure. Okay.

1:21:49Great pick. Amanda, you have one more pick as well in Wild Card. I am going to go with a movie that I do remember seeing in theaters which I I think is a little strange that I was taken because I would have been five or six but I have the memory of Cher and Winona Ryder and Christina Ricci all on the screen and I guess the thinking must just have been like well there are three women in this so we we better take our little like our little woman to the movie. So this is Mermaids, which is a family story, a story about a young girl who doesn't really fit in in her town or with her weird older sister and mom, who is Cher.

1:22:34And like a period piece that's set in the 60s. And then, you know, typical coming-of-age hijinks ensue. But I remember liking it. This might have been my first introduction to Cher also. just like the power of Cher on screen. I don't know where I would have encountered her before. Has it been struck before this? Well, sure, but I was three. The Witches of Eastwick. Yeah, I mean, no, I don't, I think so. I think that this is it. It felt like a really big deal when I was a kid, this movie. And has not lived on. It doesn't have as much of a reputation, although I'm looking at, you know, Richard Benjamin, the actor, was the director of this movie.

1:23:08And he came up, actually, I was on Blank Check over the weekend for an episode that I recorded like roughly 12 years ago. Okay. But I remember in that conversation, we were talking about the movie Made in America, the Ted Danson, Whoopi Goldberg movie, where Ted Danson wore blackface at the fryer roast. Do you remember this? No. Do you not know the story? Oh, it's like a legendary, bizarre thing that happened in pop culture. He was like out of the paint for like 10 years. Basically canceled. And Ted Danson obviously now is like so beloved. but he was dating Whoopi Goldberg at the time and like in a quote unquote tribute to her wore blackface and gave his performance at the Friar Roast anyway Richard Benjamin directed that movie so we were talking about him that movie came just a couple years after Mermaids which is good I actually just left for the first time maybe like three months ago and I enjoyed it did you ever see Welcome Home Roxy Carmichael which is the other big like Winona like starting to kind of emerge movie from this year this year I know I don't think so but I just realized so this also stars There's also Edward Scissorhands, by the way.

1:24:10Right, yeah. This also stars Michael Sheffling, who is obviously Jake Ryan from Sixteen Candles. But then he's also the next year in a movie called Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken. I don't know if you ever, but that was another very formative movie-going experience for me at the age of six or seven. And I had forgotten. Wait, who's in Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken? Is Mary Stewart Masterson in that? That sounds right, but... Was she in... It's Gabrielle Onwar. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Anyway. This is your version of naming Cincinnati Reds. He's your Chris Sabo. I guess so. Okay. Do you have a wild card? I just have a wild card.

1:24:50I mean, is this where I go into my long laundry list of honorable mentions here? You may. Absolutely. I can do the same. I don't know. I just deleted all of mine, which is bad. It's just an unbelievable number of movies. Are you going to pick Tremors? No, I like Tremors, but it isn't one of my movies. and I know for a lot of people it is one of their big movies. Are you going to pick Charlie Sheen and Michael Biehn's Navy Seals? Never seen it. Really? Never seen it. I know that Vinegar Syndrome put out a big fancy edition of it on Blu-ray recently but I've not seen the film. What about Christian Slater's Pump Up the Volume?

1:25:21As you know, not a big movie for me though it did invent podcasting and Harry Hardon. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good movie. Cool movie. I like it. You want to try to pitch me some more ideas? Mo' Better Blues? Mo' Better Blues was sitting at the top of my wildcard list right now. Spike Lee's amazing, completely different follow-up to do the right thing. Sort of like love story exploration of the artist's soul starring Denzel Washington as a jazz musician. Movie that I've always really, really liked. And I think that's probably where I'm going to go. But I do want to put points and arrows at a couple of movies I really like.

1:25:56Frankenhooker. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, if I had not taken it home alone, I would have considered Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. It's a big, big movie for me. Saw it in a movie theater. loved it. It's one of my cousins I remember vividly. Phil Jeannot's State of Grace, which is one of the great Gary Oldman performances. An incredible year for Irish gangsters. Yeah. Between Chris Walken and King of New York and Miller's Crossing. New York was really Was it Dinkins? I think it is Dinkins. Yeah. Oh, Dinkins. Yeah, the mayor. Yeah, David Dinkins. I think the cinematographer for State of Grace is Jordan Cronenweth.

1:26:31That sounds right. I'm surprised you didn't take State of Grace. I think the mayor It was that or King of New York. That's right on the line. I just revisited Almodovar's Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down, which I don't think I totally realized was basically the last movie that Antonio Banderas made before making the leap to Hollywood with Mambo Kings and then going on and watching the movie. You know what movie I thought of? Baby Girl. Because they're very similar in some ways. Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down is about a sort of a porn actress who's making a shift to making a horror movie. and a young man who gets out of a mental facility and begins stalking her on set.

1:27:09He's a younger man and he kidnaps her. And then they have this sort of like psychosexual affair and then Stockholm Syndrome sets in and they fall in love. Crazy Almodovar movie. Not my favorite, but really a good one if people haven't seen it. I re-watched Sam Raimi's Darkman. Yeah. Just fucking awesome. It's so good. This is such a good year for like not shitty comic book movies. Yeah. There's just like a lot of, it's a very comic book-y like 1940s style serial but Darkman? Darkman. What does Darkman do? It's Liam Neeson and he gets thrown in toxic waste or what happens? He's dipped in toxic waste but he is a scientist who's been developing this kind of skin that allows you to like Skin care.

1:27:51I'm listening. I'm listening. He can kind of become anyone. Like he can he can look like anybody if he applies So like Mission Impossible. Yeah like Ethan Hunt. It is mask forward. Yeah. But Francis McDormand plays his love interest. And all the stuff that is cool about the Rami Spider-Man movies starts here. What else? Flatliners. I tried again. I've never been able to get into this movie. Love that movie. Love that movie. The other big Julia Roberts movie of 1990. Also very important in her personal life. That's right. Keith Sutherland is the star. Jason Patrick appears in the movie as is Kevin Bacon and Oliver Platt.

1:28:27Google old people magazines if you don't know what we're talking about. Do you think My Blue Heaven is good? I love it. I love this movie too. It got kind of blown out of the water by Goodfellas because it's the same movie. It's the same movie. Well, it's sort of like the sequel in some ways about the, you know, Henry Hill moving to the suburbs. But I've always been in love with this movie. I think Steve Martin is hilarious. Great Rick Moranis performance. Joan Cusack, terrific in this movie. Written by your girl, Nora Ephron. Nora Ephron sitting at home writing My Blue Heaven after her experience meeting Henry Hill because Nicholas Pelleggi, her husband, was getting to know Henry Hill because of Goodfellas.

1:29:01because he was writing wise guy. Are they there together at this point? Yes. Okay. That's the whole, that's an amazing origin that at the same time that's happening between the two of them. What a great creative household that must have been.

1:29:14Arachnophobia. Wouldn't you want to live that way? It's not me. I don't have the giggles this time. It's not me. Would you not want to live that way? I would. I would. I would love to be in a creative household like that. Do you not feel like you are in one right now? I like in this house or like in my relationship with my wife. There's nothing but creativity between me and my wife. I'll say. We just throw around. It's a marketplace of ideas. It's great to hear. Is that a tariff-free marketplace? So we're rolling those out there. It's American-made, both of us, yeah. I want to shout out Charles Burnett's To Sleep With Anger.

1:29:53Awesome movie. Great film with Danny Glover. You a fan of The Grifters? I quite like The Grifters. Stephen Freer that's a mother son okay yeah we have more of those but I'm not really sure I like the portrayal that's what we stand at attention for Annette Bening movie honestly John Cusack Angelica Houston and Annette Bening as a bunch of con artists super fun movie Blue Steel Catherine Bigelow's I'm well aware drama about a a female police officer played by Jamie Lee Curtis who's in Too Deep Ron Silver wildly upsetting in this film there's only one place for cops to be. That's in too deep. That's true.

1:30:32I don't think I had a cop who's just like, yeah, easygoing guy. I don't want them to be in too deep like in real life, but in movies, if they're not in too deep, I'm not interested. Yeah. Speaking of in too deep, we had a double hit of Dennis Hopper directed thrillers this year. One is Backtrack starring Jodie Foster. The other is The Hotspot starring Don Johnson, Virginia Madsen and Jennifer Connelly. We must mention, the soundtrack to The Hotspot was done by John Lee Hooker and Miles Davis and Taj Mahal. The Hotspot is highly recommended by yours truly. Yeah. So you're not taking it? Not taking it.

1:31:06Okay. I can keep going here. There's so many. I mean, Arachnophobia is a huge one. That one, that was, to me, that's sort of like the Ur-Amblin movie that was not directed by Steven Spielberg. It's directed by Frank Marshall, his longtime producer. It's sort of like Jaws, but with spiders. You know, like silly and exciting and kind of gnaws at your primal fear nerve. I'll take Moe Better Blues. I love Moe Better Blues. Great pick. Great pick. I like Spike. Thank you. Any other... I thought about taking Life is Sweet, the Mike Lee movie. I don't know if you guys have ever seen that one. With Jim Broadbent, Timothy Spall, Alison Steadman.

1:31:48Kind of like... This is a dumb way to say it, but kind of his first Mike Lee movie. Not a TV movie for the BBC. His first movie, I think with Dick Pope, his longtime cinematographer, just passed away after they made Hard Truths. Thank you. And there's a lot of Hard Truths in Life is Sweet. So if people liked Hard Truths, they should seek that one out. I think it's on the Criterion channel right now. Any other honorable mentions? I'll just throw out one that I watched actually last year at some point, which was Hidden Agenda, which is a Ken Loach kind of thriller. Francis McDormand, right? Francis McDormand and Brian Cox, which is incredible.

1:32:26there's a lot of other ones though John Waters' Crybabies is this year Akira Kurosawa's Dreams which I just watched for the first time over the weekend which is a fascinating movie about literally Akira Kurosawa remembering his dreams and writing them down and then putting them on screen it's just nine dreams that he had also features a performance by Martin Scorsese as Vincent Van Gogh wow the movie was funded in part by Martin Scorsese and George Lucas who wanted to patronize one of their heroes at the end of his career. Or maybe it was Coppola who may have paid for it. Anyway. The other movie is, we never, ever, ever talk about this because this filmmaker is not a legendary international filmmaker, but this movie is beloved, which is Cinema Paradiso, which was a massive art house sensation at the time.

1:33:13I think has a long shelf life. Giuseppe Tornatore is the director about a young boy who falls in love with going to the movies and the relationship that he has to going to the movies.

1:33:25that I think is a very divisive movie. Some people think it's very schmaltzy and very saccharine, sentimental. And some people who are like, this defines why movies are special. I think part of the reason why I never bring it up is I'm kind of like in the middle on it. But I'm sure that if we posted the episode, people would be like, where is Cinema Paradiso in your discussion of blah, blah, blah. If we post the episode, should we keep this one private? I have to cut around my Christy Gnome joke. Otherwise, I think we're going to be okay. Bob, do you have a favorite 1990 movie that was discussed here today?

1:33:58Yeah, I mean, it's Goodfellas. It's like my favorite movie ever. I just watched that for my birthday a couple weeks ago. Just by myself, 11 p.m. It's so hard every time. It still works. It's amazing. We sat in just for the beginning of it when we were screening it in Boston. In the end. We came back for Harry Nilsson. When did you get up? I think as soon as... Was it as soon as Ray appeared? When Ray Liotta comes in. We watched all of Young Henry and then got dinner. I think that Scorsese's mom should have been in every single movie in the 90s with a different painting of two dogs. Yeah. I think that could have improved every single movie.

1:34:38He says, what do you want from me? Okay, let's recap our selections before we depart. In drama, I had Miller's Crossing. In comedy, I had House Party. In action horror thriller, I took King of New York. In Oscar nominee, I took Goodfellas. In sequel, I took Exorcist 3. And in blockbuster, I took Days of Thunder. And in wildcard, I took The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover. Double Greenway for your boy. Not a lot of competition. Not a big race to pick Peter Greenway movies, but good films. Thanks. Okay, Amanda, what did you get? In drama, I took Postcards from the Edge. In comedy, Metropolitan.

1:35:18In action horror thriller, I have The Hunt for Red October. Thank you, Chris. In Oscar nominee, I have Pretty Woman. In sequel, Die Hard 2. In blockbuster, Presumed Innocent. And in wildcard, Mermaids. Okay. In drama, I have Wild at Heart. In comedy, Home Alone. That'd be an interesting double feature. In action horror thriller, I have Misery. In Oscar nominee, I have Ghost. In sequel, Gremlins 2. The New Batch. In blockbuster, Total Recall. And in wildcard, Moe Better Blues. that just about does it. Yeah. We haven't really been winning these. There hasn't been a lot of We're all winners. post-competition.

1:35:55When we get to see you, Chris. Thanks. Do you feel that your spirits have been meaningfully lifted here today? My spirits were fine. I think that I think I Rory put me in a weird spot. What do you mean? I just think he just like he wore me out emotionally. You know? Yeah. You were very tense. I think he was like I kept being like what are we going to do collectively if he blows this? You were threatening to quit watching golf. Yes. That was what you were saying. Which is like nobody would care. But like, I mean, I just think. I would because that's something we do together sometimes. What would you have done if Rory had lost?

1:36:27Just gone on with your day? No, because I have to manage at least two. You know, two out of the three people, other people in my home would have been truly devastated. She would have truly been Glenn Close and the wife. She would have had to have brought back up her husband's spirits. But are you saying that she is secretly the author of all of Zach's pieces? all of his opinions about Rory McIlroy actually stemmed from Amanda I would have been sad but I would have probably just immediately defaulted to Rory as such a cuck I can't believe you did this to us again you were like halfway there I've watched him do it so many times it was like after 18 before the playoff you Chris Ryan were despondent you Sean Fentasy were just like already yelling at him I'm just like how can you do this to us again yeah it was like it was like we sat here for almost five hours to get punched in the balls so hard would be really, really a weird way to spend something.

1:37:20It would have been one of the worst, most unrecoverable losses in sports history. It was so humiliating until he actually made it happen. Yeah. But it was uncomfortable just sitting there in the room. We also only ate chips for four hours. A variety of chips, yeah. Like, so much nicotine going through my body at that point. It was really unhealthy, too. I think I put myself into a little bit of a coma. Yeah. What was the flavor of those pretzel twists? Seasoned.

1:37:48I watched your son eat one and have like a little bit of a moment with himself. He immediately put it back in the bowl. So then I took it before it could like further contaminate. He didn't enjoy. Well, Bobby Wagner, good to see you. Thank you for your work on this episode. Anytime. Thank you to Jack Sanders. Thank you to all the listeners at home who are quietly voting to themselves. as they all did on November 8th, back in 2024. You're just really steering into it. Okay. You know what? This week is going to get a lot better. It's because Ryan Coogler sinners. I think it was a good pod. It goes up from here, maybe.

1:38:27No, I thought it was a good pod. Hey, hey. You both did great. You know, Bob did great. Jack, thank you. You guys did great. When did this pod become a everybody gets a fucking trophy pod? You guys are all too nice to each other about the results. Good point. Bring some meanness back. you know you gotta get to your 40s and then give me a call that's all I'm gonna say you know these moments are fleeting it's just things are different you never know you could be at Dulles Airport one day and all of a sudden John McClane

1:38:58why is John McClane inside of my suitcase yeah yeah so Cinder's is coming out it's coming out you can see it on 70mm IMAX if you live in one of the five cities where you can find those theaters otherwise you'll just have to see it into regular IMAX or projected on laser somewhere or maybe just wait three months and watch it on your phone like a fucking asshole. Don't do that. See it when it comes out and listen to the big picture. I apologize to Steven Soderbergh for doing that. Me, Amanda, and Van will talk about the movie and I talked to Ryan Coogler for the film. So we'll see you on Friday.

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