The 2010 Mega-Movie Re-Draft

10:18Sean Fennessey:fucked. That was the vibe when I was working at eMusic because as soon as Spotify comes to America it's curtains for eMusic and everyone who was saying that was 100 % right and here we are in a Spotify owned studio in 2026. I'm so cynical.

10:35Rob Mahoney:Listening to you tell the story of the emerging behemoth Spotify, it just feels like you just did a little commercial there.

10:43Sean Fennessey:Well, you know, I guess we get to be together. When I say 2010 movies, what springs to mind? I mean, I picked this year back then when we did it in 2020, just because it was 10 years later. That was the only reason that we started there. We were like, we have enough time to look back on this period of film and see what it means. Not because it was a particularly great year, though it did have a couple of favorites from the show and some interesting movies to pull apart. But what do you think when you look at it, Rob? I think it's big, like, before time's energy. You know, I think the easy demarcation point is, like, the Marvel machine is not up and running yet.

11:16But also, Fast Five hasn't happened. Jurassic World hasn't happened yet. Like, all the things that are going to take up all the oxygen in the room are just not existent at this point. So there's a lot of stuff. I don't know that it's all good.

11:29Joanna Robinson:So you're saying it's a great time for little movies like Toy Story 3, Iron Man 2, Twilight Zone. But Iron Man 2 is not. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Oh, dude,

11:36Rob Mahoney:we were going crazy.

11:37Joanna Robinson:They're on midnight. Iron Man 2,

11:39Rob Mahoney:we were going crazy. I saw Iron Man 2. I was there, but it's not the same. The Marvel machine was in effect. Because what I needed is premium projection. Actually, shout out Cobble Hill Cinema's 11 Forever.

11:52Sean Fennessey:You chuckled because you feel like we were already in Slop Town?

11:56Joanna Robinson:No, I mean, he said the Marvel machine wasn't in effect, then Mallory and I just had like a... We just said, buoyed like uh you know mickey rourke and iron man 2 mentally to each other via telepathic link then we laughed into the microphones out loud we did do that um it's just yeah it's it's franchise city here in 2010 and and actually some of the worst i think that franchise cinema has to

12:20Mallory Rubin:offer so we're gonna be celebrating that there's a lot of other movies it was an odd year there's

12:25Joanna Robinson:a lot of other fantastic movies but I think the top I would not say these stand the test of time

12:31Rob Mahoney:it was odd year also because it was like it's like kind of transitional time like there are new people barking up the tree like I was all about Nolan at this point I thought Nolan was the greatest fucking guy like ever did they have a movie

12:44Joanna Robinson:this year?

12:45Rob Mahoney:yeah I was about to say I'm in the wrong year but like I just also remember having hopes for films and then just being dramatically let down by some of the, like watching Tim Burton make an uninteresting movie was like crazy to me with that many resources and stuff like that.

13:06Sean Fennessey:Yeah.

13:07Rob Mahoney:Did movie Twitter exist back at this point?

13:09Mallory Rubin:Sure. Were you on it?

13:11Sean Fennessey:I was on Twitter.

13:12Mallory Rubin:Yeah.

13:12Sean Fennessey:Twitter was good back then. I joined Twitter in 2009 and that's when you could frequently send out a tweet that was just like, I just had a burrito. Shit was fire. That was considered a good tweet. It was like, good job. You know that tweet. You still could.

13:22Joanna Robinson:Retweet. You could.

13:23Sean Fennessey:Thank you, yeah. Why don't you take it back? My friend's banging that like button. You want to go back to that time? I want you to take it back. That's what he's doing on threads. I'm not really on threads anymore. No, I don't think we can ever go back, unfortunately. Because immediately when you do that, it's just like AICR in a Nazi costume, like saluting a bag of Cheez-Its. Oh my God. All the replies are...

13:46Joanna Robinson:AICR is like a real speed skating Hitler from SNL sort of character.

13:51Sean Fennessey:Just think of that.

13:52Joanna Robinson:AICR.

13:52Sean Fennessey:You in a Nazi costume saluting a bag of Cheez-Its. Am I on the Friedland plot right now? Do you have any big 2010 thoughts, movie-wise, Amanda? Oh, me. You know, not off the top of my head, and I don't want to spoil my draft prep, but when I was trying to, you know, the essential, what will your first pick be? If you get the first pick, what are you going to do? One movie I remembered as a 2010 movie, and then I read the list, and I was like, oh, actually, probably I should choose this other one. So it doesn't stand out as like a hallowed year where I was like going to the cinema. 2009, honestly, is a lot more memorable.

14:33I remember the specific places and the specific theaters where I saw all of these movies. And I think there was just a better mix of, you know, non-franchise stuff. I mean, that's Inglourious Bastards. You're a big Avatar head. Well, I remember I went to see Avatar in a blizzard at the now departed Brooklyn Heights, you know, the Court Street. Was that a Regal? Yeah.

14:59Sean Fennessey:I'll never forget where I saw Avatar. AMC, Lincoln Square. Yeah. IMAX screen. And I'm just like one of the greatest movie theater experience ever. I loved it. You get it. I've never seen it. You cannot be me.

15:10Mallory Rubin:I definitely didn't see it in a theater. It's not like 20 minutes of my own plane.

15:13Joanna Robinson:Yeah. That sounds right.

15:16Sean Fennessey:I think that's actually useful to this conversation because, you know, Avatar made a shitload of money in 2010. Yeah. You know, it was like, it was such a carryover movie. I think I might have seen it, like a blizzard hit in January. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll go do this on like a day two. Yeah, or it was even still in theaters. But so I guess there's not a defining narrative of 2010 except for the Oscars narrative of they picked the wrong one. Yeah. You've got a couple things kind of winding down. Exactly. A couple things kind of like trying to squeeze out some life, you know? You got Shrek 4 and Toy Story 3.

15:52Sean Fennessey:I just remember this period. Harry Potter's near the end.

15:55Mallory Rubin:More than any movie, I mean, I had one of my favorite movie-going experiences of my life was going to see Inception with Zack. Oh, yeah. At the Prospect Park one, right? We both walked out. We were like, what can we do with our minds that we're not doing?

16:10Sean Fennessey:I think you're thinking of Limitless.

16:12Mallory Rubin:Number 16? The thing I remember when I went through this list was not only just the movies that came out, but the specificity of how I was receiving films, which was, I think, almost entirely as a theater going experience. So the streaming services had yet to really ramp up yet. You could get the red letter Netflix movies, but you had to be an active participant in like getting and sending them back and everything. I think I had like an Ingmar Bergman movie for three years.

16:42Joanna Robinson:I was going to say, there are two movies on this list that I definitely had those envelopes for like six months. Did you ever watch them? No.

16:50Mallory Rubin:And then, you know, I just, home media or physical media was not a reality for me yet. So it was really like my film going experience was all theater, which is kind of an interesting little snapshot until the moment before.

17:01Sean Fennessey:Yeah. Any other straight thoughts before we describe our categories and get a draft order? I think the Oscar note that Amanda already made obviously feels like very present in the year. but I am curious to see if in the flow of the draft in part just because there are so many picks it's seven drafters and seven rounds if we'll be in a position where like a lot of the films that were like you fucked social network how dare you at the time are actually now in a like this movie's actually pretty good so you're just trying to lay the groundwork for when it's always a Colin Firth thought for me one of my favorite ringer memories genuinely did this air?

17:39I don't even know probably when we were first doing Hot as Take at Sunset Gower and we did a King's Speech episode and I just remember you looking at me across the table in Podcast Studio One in the courtyard and saying you can't say a movie's good just because you want to fuck the lead. And nothing has changed all this time later. You can make a whole career out of it. You can make a whole career. Here we are folks. You can become a beloved media figure doing just that. It's still the best Tom Hooper movie I've ever seen. The bar's in hell. Amanda's first round pick. There you go. Established.

18:12What's the soccer movie he made? Damned United. Yeah. Oh, I like that movie. You haven't seen Les Mis?

18:18Sean Fennessey:I haven't seen Les Mis. No. Oh, Damned United. Still working up to it. It's not good. I feel like I need to get more cinema history under my belt.

18:26Joanna Robinson:I've always said that about you. Arrive at the mountaintop. Pretty shallow. Yeah.

18:30Sean Fennessey:I'm just trying to catch up a little bit. That's supposed to be side conversations. Okay, so let's talk about the categories because they're a little bit unusual. I've been trying to expand. You're iterating. Wow. The parameters. of categorical strategy. And it worked out really well in the Star Wars draft.

18:44Mallory Rubin:We have some exciting things we're testing for the fall, you and I.

18:48Sean Fennessey:We do. No spoilers, please. Categorical strategy-wise? That's for JMO premium gold subscribers. Okay, the first category to Joanna's point, and maybe to Rob's as well, is franchise film. Now, this is a film that is part of a franchise. It can be the first film. It can be the last film. But if it's part of a franchise, it's eligible. Next category is original. Now, this requires a lot of specificity. This is not based on any pre-existing source material. As in a novel, as in a real life event, as in another film, a television series. This has to be from the mind of the screenwriter.

19:34Mallory Rubin:For our listeners, what happens if it is a movie based on a book but is not part of a franchise? Where does it go? Somewhere else. Wild card.

19:43Sean Fennessey:Not in either place. What if it takes inspiration? That's what I was going to ask. How strict are we being about real life rules? Because like, no, there's no such thing as an original idea. Not really. Everything is influenced by the stimuli around us all the time. Like if someone's like. The house of our podcast host would say that. Wouldn't they? If someone's like, my neighbor whispered to a mailman a tale of their nanny and it planted a seed that 30 years later I realized inspired this text. That's still original, right? But if you're like, these people are real people, that's not eligible.

20:19Is that a fair distinction to draw? I think the best way

20:21Sean Fennessey:to think about it is if this film can be nominated for Best Original Screenplay. But a lot of the Best Original Screenplay nominees wouldn't be eligible by your rule. With respect, that's a terrible idea. Because they're not... Because they make that shit up all the time. That's the most loosey-goosey category in history and it's just whatever. I guess that's probably... Wait, like King's Speech was best original screenplay, but that's based on a real person. So by your rule, like that's. So that minus real events. Oh boy, okay. Who sent you the most questions? This is gonna be exciting. About the pod heading into it.

20:49Sean Fennessey:Who do you think sent the most questions? You sent six questions just last night. I at least sent them to the group so that we could address them just once.

20:56Mallory Rubin:Oh, you were side channeling with him? You're like, always. Well, I had, as some of you will remember, a very public scarring experience where Sean looked at me in the Star Wars draft and said, maybe if you had asked me. And so I won't be making that mistake again. Is this when you tried to do like the Force was like a different character or something like that? She tried to say that

21:15Rob Mahoney:R2-D2 was a Skywalker. She's only talked about it on like 20 podcasts. The Midichlorians. The Midichlorians.

21:22Sean Fennessey:Where did you land on that? Stand by it. On what? I really like the Midichlorian one. That one I would support. I didn't dig either one. R2-D2.

21:30Joanna Robinson:You famously hate droids. I scooped you on the droid pick on our Star Wars map. Because I was experiencing PTSD. I will say this, though. I feel like you know what PTSD is.

21:38Rob Mahoney:She did have, Mal does have a constituency online of people who argue very, very passionately that R2-D2 is in Skywalker. People were very upset about it. Is that where you got your pro-Bane army as well?

21:52Joanna Robinson:The Bane lovers are everywhere. There are dozens of us.

21:57Sean Fennessey:The third category is comedy. That requires no further delineation.

22:01Joanna Robinson:I don't know. That is funny. yeah I'll let you

22:05Rob Mahoney:I'll tell you what in comedy I'm looking at a lot of movies that I thought were really funny at the time that I've really aged

22:11Joanna Robinson:what about the ending of Remember Me can that count in comedy hey please do not spoil my first remake

22:18Sean Fennessey:I think finding something funny doesn't make it a comedy unintentional comedy okay have you has everyone here seen Remember Me only the end I don't think I've seen it but I know the ending wow I was there that I saw at Prospect Park Cinema and did you laugh when she writes September 11th 2001 on the chalkboard I like fell into the aisle yeah I was like I cannot believe this is going to happen and it had not been spoiled for me by whoever that critic was what happened on that day well it happened in the reflection of somebody's eyes yeah okay the next category is foreign language film or animated

22:56Mallory Rubin:two of my faves

22:56Sean Fennessey:okay now CR asked me this yesterday why foreign language film xenophobe that he is no

23:01Mallory Rubin:I said it's such a robust category it could have been its own.

23:06Joanna Robinson:International feature. This year for sure. You can treat it as such.

23:09Sean Fennessey:I am. You can ignore animated. I will. Sean, he definitely will. There are a few animated foreign language films that are eligible and I'll say I think

23:18Joanna Robinson:to the voters at large

23:19Sean Fennessey:I think you should be rewarded if you're able to fuse the category. Well, somebody could take three animated films in this draft. Someone could take four. I agree. Someone could take five. That was part of my thinking was there is an inordinate number of animated movies this year both at the top of the box office and further down the line.

23:34Joanna Robinson:If I select the 2010 film Frozen, will you allow us to pretend it's the end? Not that one.

23:42Sean Fennessey:I tell you what, I have some affection for that film Frozen that you're talking about. Maybe it'll come up later. The next category is Oscar nominee, which we often do. The next category is Blockbuster. The threshold here is$125 million. Domestic. Domestic. Domestic. Not$100 million, which is what we usually do around this time. The reason for that is the box office was very healthy in 2010. And there were a lot of movies that crossed the 125 threshold. And then the last category, of course, is Wild Card. So we've got 20 eligible movies in box office. We've got well over 50 in Oscars. Gotta do draft order.

24:18Sean Fennessey:Everybody feeling good? Yeah, let's do it. Any category questions before we get into that moment? No? Ben doesn't give a shit. He doesn't care. Rob, you ready to steal people's hearts and dreams? I hope. Okay. You're developing quite a reputation around these parts. You have a letterboxd list up here, and you're already not following U.S. release. I'm sure that that's true. Okay. But that's important, right? It's U.S. release. U.S. non-festival release. U.S. non-festival. Yes, U.S. theatrical release.

24:47Rob Mahoney:Theatrical festivals.

24:50Joanna Robinson:Van did all the prep for this. Don't worry about it. The thing is, Van doesn't do any prep, and then he comes in and he kills. It's annoying. Dominance. I don't believe in what. A genius who's also beloved. Deeply annoying. Tough to compete.

25:00Sean Fennessey:Jack Sanders, let's do it. We need a draft order. I'm scared about the order for this one. So, well, what do you want? I personally feel that having a top pick is important in this draft. You have the first overall pick. Wow! What just happened? It's like the worst possible. What are you doing? What are you doing? You're doing the worst possible outcome. Okay. No, but then I have to wait so long for the second pick. That's actually... I am prepared to say I think actually there's a case that the second pick is even better this draft. I'll explain why mom is ever been happy. Selecting second overall is Sean.

25:34Oh, good. Oh, wow. That's just what you want. That's funny because you don't want to take the movie that should go second. Third is Amanda Dobbins. But she does. Fourth is supervillain Rob Mahoney. Okay. Wow. Tough. Fifth, Van Lathan. Oh, Amanda and Rob are picking next to each other. That's always fun. Sixth, Christopher Ryan with Joe last. Damn. Oh, Joe, you're on the turn, though. That's a strong pick. Don't. I had a great time on the turn last year. Okay. Paint your own picture. Wow. This is hysterical. Boy. I mean, you're in probably the spot you want at least. Is that fair to say? At two?

26:11What?

26:11Sean Fennessey:I'm in an incredible spot. All right. Somebody pick. Oh, are we starting? Yeah. Why would we not start? I don't know. You guys are hosting. You decide. Mallory. Yeah. Then me. Then me. Then Amanda. Then Rob. Then Van, then CR, then Joe. That's correct. Can we set you over under on how many times Rob will piss Amanda off taking something that she wanted to take? Because that's a fun. She's in front of him. But then he's in front of you. She has all the control here. Well, it'll circle back. Yeah. You have the most control. I encourage everyone to make some fireworks today. You know? Honestly, I think that.

26:45You can get pretty weird in this show. Someone wise once said, paint your own picture. Yeah. There you go. But also, I've done marginal prep, so. Okay. I did prep, but, you know, I also have already drafted. Do you feel like this is a no-brainer? This year. Yes, I do. Okay, go ahead. I thought that was a clear, clear top pick. All right, what is it, Malik? Let me just say quickly, the reason I thought there was a case that two was better is because I do think original is the hardest category.

27:09Rob Mahoney:Okay. And I think there's a clear, for me, it's the category that makes me most anxious, like that I'm going to be in the sixth round and be like, did I fuck this up? Right? Now, obviously, it's a very deep field. It'll be fine. But, and that's also a movie I adore. I think there's just a clear number one. Go ahead. And it's The Social Network, So I will be selecting it first overall. I will do that in, technically it's a franchise film now. I'm going to do that in a, you know what? I am going to do it in franchise film. I'm going to do it in franchise film. I think that's the correct category.

27:44I'm going to do it in franchise film because it is eligible now, right? As a franchise film. So that's where I'll be taking Social Network first overall. Thanks guys. Jack, I just want to say thank you. And I want you to know that I've always thought you were wonderful. I'm already regretting the decision.

27:58Sean Fennessey:What would you like to say about the social network?

27:59Mallory Rubin:There was also no shaking of a... I left the Dungeons and Dragons die at the old place. That's on me.

28:05Sean Fennessey:Did you just write down on a piece of paper number one, Mallory, number two? We do have like 20 of those in here. I'll show you right here.

28:09Mallory Rubin:This is what it is. It's like a little goblet.

28:12Sean Fennessey:All the papers are hanging chads. That's whack. Saltiness already. I love it. It's the best movie of the year and it's one of the five best movies of the century so far. Some would say number one. yeah I mean some podcast is anyone here in the room with us some would some other list might say somewhere between two to four but you take the phone call

28:31Mallory Rubin:about other movies though yeah you all you have the discussion you always take the phone call

28:35Sean Fennessey:yeah except for the five first round picks except for the social reckoning which I don't want to take the meeting of four for 106 for Jalen Brunson we'll take it we'll take the phone call the shirt is fantastic it's obscured from view by the laptop but it's a wonderful shirt let everyone see that it's beautiful beautiful shirt incredible Fincher movie it's a great Sorkin script the performances are iconic. It's a movie in the moment that felt incredible, urgent, perfect, reflective of the time, and that has only been truer as we've aged. So, it's sensational. What's your... You watched the Social Network trailer.

29:05Sean Fennessey:Social Reckoning. Social Reckoning. I did. I sure did. Booted that up on the 75-inch big screen. What'd you think of that? I have some concerns, but I will be there day one. I will be there day one. I will be there. It's allegedly going to be at the Venice Film Festival, so I'm going to be seeing it alone jet-lagged in Venice. I don't... Will you drop some takes into the group chat? Yeah, no, then I'll do like a video blog of me dying. And then, but of happiness or sadness. It could be great. It could be great. So you can start your alien pod now. That's right.

29:34Rob Mahoney:Are you going to go on his alien pod? I thought it was a phenomenal idea. Yeah? Couldn't believe you. I feel like we could do a great job. If you want to do that, if you want to link up on that. Listen, let's just do it right now. I thought it was a great idea. So disclosure, disclosure day happens and we see all of that footage. On the local news, which you're definitely watching. They take it national and they don't put the NBC bug on it, right? They have that conversation. Internash. And also, you know, they run it through the AI checker. So everything's right. Ground truth pixels. Very lovely black woman kind of gets everybody into it.

30:09Rob Mahoney:Right. Phenomenal.

30:09Joanna Robinson:And then they, okay, and so then they have reception on their phone in the subway.

30:14Rob Mahoney:And then they rolled the real alien out. I almost lost it. That was where you lost it? I almost lost it at that point. Guys, they do, hold on. In New York at least, they have tremendous reception on the subway. I purchased a leather jacket. I thought it was less plausible that everybody could connect to my man on the plane. On the subway, my last time I was there. Okay, shout out to them, I'm done. In some spare dark spots. So they're broadcasting the tapes. The old alien rolls out. Okay? And then you do what? So I have two choices. Yeah. I either... So we're not drafting 2010. I have two choices.

30:54Rob Mahoney:I either go native or I pod. Okay, you come over to my house and I pod. I either got two choices. Either I go native, I do the whole thing because there's going to be a run-on. Everything's going to shit. Highest learning. I either go native or I pod. That's it. But so you are rededicating your life to alien study. I have to find the truth. Okay, but they've just told you the truth. I got more truth. Okay. If you wanted aliens to understand our society, which big pick movie draft would you have them listen to first? 99.

31:24Sean Fennessey:I probably would just cut out the snatch portion. Yeah. 2009? This is what it's like here. This is what we're like.

31:32Rob Mahoney:Do you have any anecdotes in the pocket for 2009? In any pod. Yeah, it's a lot. Trying to think were any of these movies paired with blowjobs. I'll get back to you. We'll see how the draft goes.

31:41Sean Fennessey:Can I say one more thing about You make it sound like a wine pairing.

31:43Rob Mahoney:Can I say one more thing about the social network before we move on? Yeah. For anybody else was the social network were like a complete revelation in a in that you knew nothing about any of that shit like i legitimately myspace comes along everybody's on myspace and then all of a sudden everybody kind of like just makes this psychic decision to go to facebook facebook is just better i'm like okay well shit we're on facebook now we're on facebook i know nothing about startups i know nothing about Peter Thiel. I know nothing about any of that stuff. That movie wasn't just... I'm 30 at this point, right?

32:21Rob Mahoney:But that movie wasn't just an awesome movie. It also was almost an encyclopedic map to how you get your idea off the ground and what it costs you.

32:33Joanna Robinson:Well, it was really funny as someone who grew up in the Bay Area and it felt like a real, is this fucking play about us? And then we didn't yet know how much that culture would just take over everything. you know so it felt like it felt like a a local sort of exploration of our culture and then it

32:49Rob Mahoney:just became and it was so early in his career it wasn't like he was a 50 or 60 year old guy and they were doing a retrospective the shit had just started yeah and they just almost like they wanted you to know how this is done because this is about to be such a big part of your life yeah i've said

33:03Sean Fennessey:many times on the show i really love recent history period pieces and they're really hard to do well um i mean it's basically a seven or eight year period of time that has transpired from when Facebook launches to arriving at the release of the movie, which is, you know, to have the perception and the foresight as to like what this is going to do to people and the way that it kind of like instantaneously changed the way that we interact with each other. Even just the face match thing at the very beginning of the film where you can like, oh, wow, we're in the dark time now where like we think we think of each other as commodities instead of as people where we're being told that this is the opposite.

33:38Sean Fennessey:This is going to connect us. But what it's obviously going to do is divide us and you know it sounds like sorkin is obviously trying to follow that up in a way that maybe we don't need to explicate it to us in the same way but i do think it kind of put words and images to a feeling that was starting to rise and that's why one of the reasons why i think the movie is so effective and still it holds up to this day is that what lasts like 30 years from now is what we remember about the social network that it is kind of the defining public account of what happened with this man in this company or is it the eisenberg performance is it the south like the score like what is it that lasts a harbinger of something to come yeah yeah also and and how right it was yeah and how prescient it was even in in the moment of not specifically how like we use facebook but just people's relationship to the internet and quote-unquote social media at least our generation i mean a common thing on this podcast is that all our young listeners are just like guys that movie's not that good what's wrong with you but so everyone well but I think if you're 30 or younger you have experienced a different internet a different social media and

34:42Mallory Rubin:and Facebook wasn't really yeah and it doesn't like speak to you in the same way it's also

34:46Joanna Robinson:like it's a psychological profile of a kind of person the kind of people who will who now run the world that's exactly the tech millionaire that to me

34:54Rob Mahoney:was the most subversive thing about the movie because growing up the nerds were always the good guys you saw like if we were Lucas where he gets piled upon with football. All the nerds in the 80s and the 90s were the people that had these hidden virtues that people were like, oh my God, in high school, you don't have biceps, you have brains. Eventually this guy's going to be running your company. But you didn't think that perhaps that guy would be corrupted by all of his experiences and go on to use his prodigious intellect to dominate people and fuck them over. And I remember watching that movie going, shit if we have 10 or 15 years of these dudes who learned the code just fucking us we might be in for it well guess what we were yeah yeah we still are it's also just a very i think clear-headed

35:49Sean Fennessey:movie about the voracious nature of capital that just like getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger is the goal of everything and that once forces come in with people who have those ideas is that their entire idea is growth at all costs, no matter the expense of humanity, personal friendship, whatever. And, you know, most movies are not brave enough to be as kind of like sharp and mean as that movie is. I mean, that's a really tough movie. It's a really embittered movie. But I really, really agree with what you're saying, which is that younger people don't esteem the movie as highly, not just because they didn't experience Facebook, but because I feel like pretty much all of us here have realized in the last five years that the most powerful people for this portion of our lives are rooted in the experience of the movie that we didn't necessarily know and that when you're younger you're like i'm being held down by the president or the senate or ceos of you know nabisco or whatever massive company but now these are the real domineering figures in society we so many things about that movie surprises

36:49Rob Mahoney:like the wildly competent justin timberlake performance like surprises seems like a comic Now it's, yeah, it's like, we were like, oh my God, everything, you look at the movie now, it just, it probably doesn't resonate the same way with you.

37:01Sean Fennessey:Yeah. Yeah. Well, great pick. Great. That's some of the more trenchant analysis we've gotten on a pick. There we go. I wonder if my pick will engender similar analysis. In original, I'll be taking Inception. There you go. A movie you famously hate and shit on on pods all the time. Have you just dedicated your life to convincing people you don't hate this movie? I don't hate it. You want it because it's powerful. I don't love it. It's a powerful pick. but this is the only pick to make are there other films that you like more than this can I just ask you are there other Nolan films I like more

37:31Mallory Rubin:no other movie 2010 movies that you like more than Inception left on the board can I just ask a dumb ass question

37:37Rob Mahoney:how the fuck you don't like Inception wonderful film like what like what I think it's very flawed okay say more what are the flaws well there's a whole podcast

37:47Sean Fennessey:I know but like

37:48Rob Mahoney:I haven't heard that motherfucker so like give me just a little bit of like what you go to you go to Inception you just leave you don't like Inception what happens? how's that? what do you do next? what do you do next?

38:00Sean Fennessey:I mean I didn't do a Chris did which is seek out the limitless drug so you can further expand your mind I know I was already on the limitless drug that's why Inception it's so hard

38:08Rob Mahoney:I had a magical time

38:09Sean Fennessey:I'll tell you one of my issues with it is the beginning of something that I think Nolan pursued over the next series of movies which is his desire to over explain the premise of his movie and try to convince you that the naughty plotting makes sense because of his concerns that he has maybe gone too far. I find when he has a -

38:28Joanna Robinson:And yet you love Tenet.

38:29Sean Fennessey:But the whole point of Tenet is him unpacking that idea. It's him literally saying, don't think about it, just feel it. It's him responding to himself and the criticisms that he's received, which I found to be a very self-aware and interesting idea. This movie, I think, really bends over backwards to justify its structure and plotting in ways that I don't think is very impactful. That's just me. I am selecting it here. It has many merits. It looks incredible. It has an amazing score. It has good performances. My favorite movie star right at the center of it. I live with this every day. There's a lot of things I like about it.

39:00Why not pick a movie you love? Well, because we're playing a game.

39:03Sean Fennessey:This isn't a make-able list of my favorite movies podcast. When you guys did this podcast the first time, the second overall pick in the draft, Chris took Never Let Me Go. Did I?

39:12Joanna Robinson:You did. But that's because it was a beautiful movie. That is beautiful. Oh. I'm the best. That is great. Wow. Putting that on wild cards as well as I say. Hey, new issue girl next year. Oh my God, I can't wait. I was texting you about that.

39:27Rob Mahoney:In recognition of this, I just got fucked up. Recognition. I'm sorry, guys. I'm fucked. Like, it's, I'm just gonna pick movies I like. Yeah, great, okay. Some people choose to play that way. Inception is my favorite Nolan movie, so I think this is the right pick. But we all know you hate it, and so does everyone listening to this podcast. Yeah.

39:44Sean Fennessey:Hate is such a strong word, and it's just not true. I don't know what to tell you. It's like a six out of ten. I think it has a lot of cool stuff out of it. Six out of ten? How tough.

39:52Rob Mahoney:Sean, go broke yourself, bro.

39:54Joanna Robinson:Why are you seven ten?

39:56Rob Mahoney:Why are you six out of ten? Get the fuck out of here, Sean.

39:59Joanna Robinson:You're never one of the biggest fans here letting this happen.

40:02Mallory Rubin:Don't fuck away, bro. An actual gas. I've been here for years. This is why we can't actually talk about these movies for as long as we are, because then we wind up saying things like Inception is a six out of ten. Six out of ten. Just torching your own draft in real time. Where's Charles? Isn't like 27 meters, 47 meters down a six out of ten? Yeah. Oh my God. Holy shit. I have a very discreet point of view, you know? I have one more question.

40:25Sean Fennessey:That's what makes this a magical podcast.

40:26Mallory Rubin:I have one more question. Okay. Which is, in 2010, you see Inception. You say what? No. The second person interview style. How shocked would 2010 you be to know where Christopher Nolan stands in filmmaking right now?

40:42Sean Fennessey:I already really, really liked him. This is the thing I've been trying to say since Inception podcast. No. From Memento. which I saw in theaters and absolutely loved. And I've been saying this for years because people are just like anti-Nolan-pilled because of the Inception pod that we did so many years ago. But I always loved Memento. I think Insomnia is not bad. I think it's pretty good. I'm not crazy about Batman Begins, but I loved The Dark Knight. Loved. What about The Prestige? And The Prestige I loved too. I liked all of those movies. So to me, it's not about a grudge. To me, it's Inception and Interstellar is a downswing for me in his career.

41:18Sean Fennessey:And I know for many people, it's a huge upswing. It's like the realization of something. I totally respect that.

41:23Joanna Robinson:I don't know if you agree with me, but I think following might be his best word. It's a skeleton key. It really is a skeleton key to his entire homography.

41:31Mallory Rubin:Who's third? It's me. Dob. Dob Bob. I'm very clear. Did you think that you were going to get Inception because he was going to say, like, I couldn't possibly draft it? I was prepared. I had two possibilities, and I knew that if he didn't take it, I had to take it logically, you know, in terms of playing a game to win. I think it had to be Social Network Inception

41:50Joanna Robinson:or vice versa. And I think because it's The Ringer, the number three movie is also pretty clear. Well, I'm sure, and here I go, an Oscar nominee. I will be taking the town. There she is. Which, when we said 2010, was the first movie that popped into my head. There goes college soccer.

42:08This movie is directed and stars Ben Affleck, a patron saint of this podcast and my personal life. it's cool love this movie this movie this movie is so good this went last night when I needed to prep and I wanted to put something on that I was familiar with while I was like looking at my computer you're like the dulcet tones of Blake Lively that's what I gotta hear listen she's just and I did stay watching through that scene but the come on the opening of it with the you know I understand that it rips off your beloved heat but I like to think of it as more of an homage

42:44Mallory Rubin:it's all it's in conversation with one another you know men in different cities doing the same thing. I still... That's exactly right. With flair. The title card of I'm proud to be from Charlestown. It ruined my life, literally. But I'm proud. Makes me laugh every single time. It's also really fucked up. Ben Affleck, pretty good in this. Jeremy Renner, obviously. Whose car are we going to take? Yeah. And then also, you know, Ham doesn't get a lot of credit, but this is the not fucking around crew. And Titus Welliver, really. I used that a lot in my own life. Was that your sons? It was, I finally got to go to Fenway last year, I think, or was it two years ago?

43:26Anyway, only thing I thought about was being in the town. I love this movie. It's very, very well-made, crowd-pleasing entertainment. So thank you, Ben Affleck. Is it fair to say that no matter what the draft order had been, those would have been the top three movies? I didn't have the town on my...

43:42Joanna Robinson:Really? The reason I didn't, because it felt unfair to take it from the people who care about it so much. Is that the attitude you want to bring to a drought? Generous. That isn't the one I brought.

43:54Sean Fennessey:I think a very logical pick. Yeah. What are their wives' names? Janets? The Janets want you to open the door. Really good stuff. I'm going to do a little Fergie

44:05Mallory Rubin:for us. I love it. Yeah, please. Rebecca Hall. What do you think, what 2010 movie do you think Fergie would have worked best in outside of the town? Toy Story 3. Toy Story 3. I'm going to send you the fucking moon. that's good does that happen in Toy Story it goes up no okay no Van you're up Rob I will be selecting Toy Story 3 amazing movie to me the best Toy Story movie and I am I am really spooked about Blockbuster so I'm actually going to take it in Blockbuster oh okay I think you're not going to get a better high from franchise filmmaking than the end of Toy Story 3 Andy giving away all of the toys in which I am a wreck as he says just some nice little affectionate thing about like here's Woody my guy you know here's Slinky Dog that's peak to me did you see 5 yet?

44:55I have not seen 5 yet I'm saving it to see with some friends very excited about it though

44:59Rob Mahoney:the end of the movie was so devastating I did not think they could make another one and did they really? but I get it but I did the end of the movie like this was this was in my this is the the trash compactor yes it's the most devastating scene in movie history wait the trash compactor the devastating one? Oh my God. Guys, it's definitely Andy giving away the toys. Sobbing. I think this is great. You thought they were going to die? It's just, it's not even about whether you think they're going to die. It's them confronting the end of something so monumental. It is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen in my life.

45:33My top four has gone in order here. This is really fun, also scary in terms of some movies being available when it comes back to me on the turn, but this is my favorite Toy Story movie as well. It's wonderful.

45:42Sean Fennessey:Love. Couldn't be me. Toy Story 1, you seen it? That's the second. one of the most incredible creators. You do remind me a lot of Sid. Have you seen any Toy Story movies? I haven't. You haven't? Not you, Josh.

45:52Rob Mahoney:I don't watch cartoons.

45:53Mallory Rubin:No, I just haven't seen cartoons. G.I. Joe's were your toys? Yeah, like what were your toys? Transformers, Mask, G.I. Joe, and then Star Wars stuff. And did you have like a special toy or like lovey, like a person that you took everywhere? A stuffy? Not. A blankie? Not after like five. Helena DeShield's baseball card? Probably.

46:15Sean Fennessey:Okay. I do think that that's probably the consensus top four yeah at least amongst us and then Van comes now Van Lathan has a selection to make

46:24Rob Mahoney:yeah Scott Pilgrim versus the world

46:25Sean Fennessey:yeah fucking hell damn amazing movie yeah was that the first pod we ever did we did yeah it was either that or Mr. Holland's opus rewatchables which is one of my favorite pods of all time

46:37Mallory Rubin:Scott Pilgrim has not been a rewatchable right it has not comedy Scott Pilgrim versus the world comedy I don't think it's been a proper rewatchable has it No.

46:46Rob Mahoney:No, no, no. We did a big picture on the 10-year anniversary.

46:50Sean Fennessey:10-year anniversary on it. Me, you, and Jason Concepcion. Yeah.

46:53Rob Mahoney:Rarely say the term because I think it's overused, but a perfect movie. Genuine. Love it. It's the best. Perfect movie. Perfectly cast. Like a fantasy world that you want to be a part of. You wish these were your friends. You wish these were the happenings. The movie is just completely brilliant in every way to me. It also knows how ridiculous it is and how much of a piece of shit Scott is. Those two things are so important. A lesser adaptation would be like, hey, let's do the fun video game stuff. Hey, let's do the evil exes. And we just lose track of what it's actually trying to say. This one is...

47:27Rob Mahoney:Well, let's stay away from how much of an asshole he is and not give you that. Let's smooth it out. Right, yeah.

47:33Sean Fennessey:Music is incredible in it. Great film. The Beck songs.

47:36Mallory Rubin:Also, incredible draft class cast.

47:38Sean Fennessey:Yeah, early Ben Larson. Aubrey Plaza. Early Brandon Routh. Winstead. Mary Elizabeth Winston

47:44Joanna Robinson:Schwartzman Chris Evans

47:46Rob Mahoney:Chris Evans is in it and by the way Kendrick like some of those people in that movie aren't like always super cool when they're in other movies but if if a movie has three of the coolest performances ever you know that motherfucker that's another thing about the town like Ben Jeremy Renner and like these guys those guys have never been cooler in another movie and Blake Lively yeah and Blake Lively but he really is though like Age of Adeline Erasure just fucked up I fucking love that movie I think that shit is underrated I fucking love that movie you just love a historical baddie crossing time I showed that movie to my mom my mom was a basket case she was like oh my god they were in love before I'm like yeah it's his son it's kind of weird but whatever I love that movie I know y 'all don't take it seriously but that's the type of shit I get into Saturday afternoon with mama but mama let me put something on and blow your fucking mind watch what happened to Han Solo

48:45Mallory Rubin:did you start crying for a second? I love that thing

48:49Sean Fennessey:it's fun Scott Pilgrim vs. The World is a great pick

48:52Mallory Rubin:okay

48:53Sean Fennessey:okay now it is CR's turn Shutter Island Blockbuster damn it

48:58Joanna Robinson:gotta be I was like it's gonna make it all the way to me if I didn't do the Inception thing this is what I was doing

49:04Mallory Rubin:I can't remember if you I think you said when you were talking about 2010 in general about like expectations versus what you got in the theater I think Shutter Island was a minor letdown when I saw it. So I was such a huge fan of the Dennis Lehane book. And then it is something that stands up to such thorough interrogation on repeat viewing. It is so well made. The performances are so good in this. Ruffalo and DiCaprio are incredible. Michelle Williams is heartbreaking in this. That's all she did back in 2010. Just break people's hearts. She did. And it's just such an awesome genre exercise by Scorsese that actually then breaks through some whatever walls of like, you know, this is a cool thriller, a cool psychological Hitchcock homage and becomes something like incredibly profound and sad.

49:52Mallory Rubin:But I highly recommend the book as well if anybody's ever looking for a beach read. Dennis Lehane always delivers Mystic River. There you go. On the beach,

50:02Sean Fennessey:pop a cold one and just relax a little bit. Check out Shutter Island.

50:08Mallory Rubin:Shutter Island, it's like a mystery, but it's like There's water if you're on the beach. Maybe you're just like... You're looking for theme reading? Yeah? Yeah, sometimes. I did that once. My mom took me to Florence before I went to college, and I read, what's that book?

50:23Rob Mahoney:Charles Webb? Agony and the Ectasy? No one? Anyway, it was good, but maybe I'll do some water themes.

50:31Mallory Rubin:But this remains one of my favorite 21st century Scorseses.

50:35Sean Fennessey:I would encourage people, if they haven't seen it, to check out a personal journey with Martin Scorsese through American movies, which is a documentary he did some years ago where he talks through a lot of different kinds of American movies. He loves and he talks a lot about noir in that documentary. And you can see him like 10 years later doing all the stuff he always wanted to do in that movie, which is really great. Your turn, Joe. Really tough, really tough for me.

51:00Joanna Robinson:You want to shutter Island? Yeah. Blockbuster, I think is like by far and away the hardest category for me. Cause I think a lot of these films absolutely, blow and I was really hoping for either Inception or Shutter Island however there's still a great one here there's a good one right left for me and it's called True Grit and that is when I'm taking a blockbuster it's tough this is like Jeff Bridges like Crazy Heart was really the beginning of it but like in full like coot mode and it's just like all coot from there on out but this is yeah just like roostering and cootin

51:32Mallory Rubin:and heller high water in it yeah I like to explore more about coot mode.

51:38Joanna Robinson:Yeah, you know.

51:39Mallory Rubin:When's Chris entering his coot mode? I think I've been in it. I think you need to like lose a tooth

51:44Joanna Robinson:in order to like get there, really get there.

51:49Mallory Rubin:They're British. They'll fall out actually.

51:53Joanna Robinson:An incredible intro to Haley Seinfeld. Great David performance. My guy Barry Pepp is here. Donald Gleason's here. It's a fantastic movie. and a remake that no one was clamoring for because you know John Wayne's version is so iconic and then they just really did it which you're great really? and how was it a blockbuster? I was gonna say shout out 2010 when this made 171 million dollars at the box office domestic

52:22Sean Fennessey:I do believe the primary producer of the film who helped to get it made was a young man named David Ellison oh And it was interesting in his earliest days of trying to get skydance off the ground. He was getting involved in active projects without developing them himself. And if the Coen brothers have been like, we're good, it's okay.

52:42Joanna Robinson:Are you trying to besmirch my one remaining good option that I had in Blockbuster?

52:47Sean Fennessey:I'm nearly, you know, elevating an important fact about one of the incoming leading CEOs in media and film.

52:55Mallory Rubin:In some ways, Drew Grit laid the path to get to Lioness. That's right. That's really why Joe picked it.

53:02Joanna Robinson:as you know I'm a huge one strong women

53:05Mallory Rubin:that's what you like in your stories so you have two picks here yes you have another pick

53:08Joanna Robinson:I think the other tough for me category is franchise film so I am taking the American release of the Swedish film The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo wow

53:20Sean Fennessey:I think that's a great this was a question that Mallory asked me yesterday yeah would this be it would be yeah of course

53:28Mallory Rubin:no this is Noomi Rapace's Swedish film Michael Nyquist. I never saw that one. And then Fencher remakes it the next year. You took that in French. That one I saw.

53:37Joanna Robinson:Yeah. It's good. They released all three the entire trilogy in 2010. Did you read those books? I did. Yes. They really like an open-faced sandwich. It's just like everything. She's just always eating an open-faced sandwich or a frozen pizza.

53:52Sean Fennessey:She's eating a few other things. Okay. There you go, Sean.

53:56Joanna Robinson:Okay. Yeah, I feel really good about that in a franchise film. What's the last thing about that?

54:03Sean Fennessey:Okay. Those are sterling picks. We're back to UCR. In original. Look at you, no phone, no computer.

54:10Mallory Rubin:I'm taking Unstoppable. Oh, beautiful. Okay. The platonic idea of the movie. Two men on a train. Wait, in original? Yeah, is it based on something? I think there's a book. I think so, isn't it? What?

54:23Sean Fennessey:It is based on the real life CSX888. You're picking another category. I'll pick another category if I have to.

54:29Mallory Rubin:Are you really telling me that that is not

54:30Sean Fennessey:It is based on the real life CSX 888. You bring it off of Wikipedia and we've never been wrong. Source material. You can pick that in other categories. It's Oscar eligible. It's Oscar eligible. Yeah. And certainly wild card. This incident has its own Wikipedia page and in the first paragraph of that page it says the incident inspired the 2010 movie. This must be great to just be able

54:49Mallory Rubin:to write the constitution as you go. It's just be like, Amendment 4, if it has a Wikipedia page. Here's my advice to you.

54:54Sean Fennessey:Start your own movie podcast. Wow. I tried.

54:57Mallory Rubin:Crazy. I tried. I guess I'll put it at Oscar. Sure. Love it. Oscar. Good. That's good. That's great. Like I was going to say, just the platonic ideal of a movie, two men on a train, that train won't stop.

55:13Joanna Robinson:That's like guys in the city.

55:15Mallory Rubin:And then the executive is like, I don't know. And they're like, Denzel, Chris Pine, Tony Scott, get the fuck out of it. Write the check and don't talk to me for a year. That's how this movie worked. And it was perfect. And Quentin Tarantino agrees with us. In fact, he illuminated this movie to me. I always liked it very much. And then talking about it with him on Rewatchables, I was like, I have been converted. This is what the guy on the road to Damascus happened to him. You and Paul? Converted. Yeah.

55:44Joanna Robinson:You and Paul were just sort of like, I've seen the light.

55:47Mallory Rubin:Wonderful, wonderful movie and a great snapshot of Pennsylvania. How wonderful.

55:52Joanna Robinson:It's just guys in different cities doing things. Yeah. But this time they're yelling like, luck doesn't exist at a rail yard. just back and forth to each other over and over. Do you like riding on a train?

56:01Mallory Rubin:I love trains. Do you like train travel?

56:03Sean Fennessey:Oh, I love trains.

56:04Mallory Rubin:How could you not? You don't? We grew up in the Northeast Coral. That's one of the things I miss about the East Coast. I spend a lot of time

56:08Sean Fennessey:on trains, I think. I think I feel like I collect. The Acela Express? Between the Long Island Railroad, the subway, the path train, I've done my time.

56:15Mallory Rubin:You do a lot of path training in your life?

56:17Sean Fennessey:Sure, plenty. I worked in Weehawken, New Jersey.

56:19Mallory Rubin:Oh, wow. There's always a hidden chapter with you, man.

56:22Rob Mahoney:Yeah, that's true. I took the train

56:27Rob Mahoney:How long did that take? 48 hours.

56:30Joanna Robinson:With like a bindle? Sleep car?

56:32Rob Mahoney:It's hanging out. No sleep car. No sleep car.

56:35Sean Fennessey:Just hanging out. Was this in 1902? When did you do this?

56:38Rob Mahoney:This was when I came out to LA. I could see you doing very well on the train. Yes. A lot of conversations. A lot of conversations. You love to ride the rails. Observation car. We would get off so that when the train stops and it connects. In Texas, you're in San Antonio, so you got to stay there for like four hours. It's always like on a Monday. You watch Monday Night Football. It's great. Was Wemby there? Swimby was not there. I don't know if he was born. It's your pick, brother. It's my pick.

57:05Rob Mahoney:In original, I'm going to take a movie that's off the beaten path, so I don't need to think about that. I don't care. In franchise film, I'm going to go Iron Man 2. You know there are many rounds left. This is incredible. You know what? You love Mickey Rourke. I think it's unfairly maligned.

57:27Mallory Rubin:Do you?

57:27Rob Mahoney:I do. I think the Iron Man, I think the first three, I don't care about winning this fucking draft. I want to talk about Mickey Rourke as Whiplash. I will say in retrospect,

57:38Joanna Robinson:like when Marvel films got worse, you look back on Iron Man 2, you're like, oh, yeah. Wait, did you franchise or blockbuster?

57:46Mallory Rubin:I did it in franchise. Isn't this Natasha's introduction to the... Introduces us to Natasha. Yeah, Happy's watching her change in the rearview mirror, remember?

57:55Rob Mahoney:The original, not the original, the second War Machine. The second War Machine. Well, the second, no, kind of the original. Justin Hammer is in this one? So the second roadie, the original War Machine.

58:07Sean Fennessey:He wasn't War Machine in the first time.

58:07Rob Mahoney:Right, he wasn't War Machine in the original one. I recently caught it and I was delighted to do so. I caught it?

58:15Sean Fennessey:You might catch chlamydia.

58:17Rob Mahoney:I recently caught the movie, damn it, and I thought the movie was, I like it also. This reminds me.

58:24Joanna Robinson:Is this where Leslie Bibb met Sam Rockwell? Is that true? Is this their origin story? I think he's funny in it.

58:28Rob Mahoney:This also is when, indicative of the time where Hollywood went, Mickey Rourke, maybe we'll do it again.

58:36Joanna Robinson:And then they were like, no. Nah.

58:38Mallory Rubin:Yeah, they tried.

58:39Rob Mahoney:They tried. The wrestler comes out and says, oh, let's do Mickey again. He's fucking crazy talented, which he is, but just... Also crazy. Also crazy. I have a lot of notes on the Monaco Grand Prix sequence now that I'm an F1 fan.

58:51Sean Fennessey:Just going to throw that out there. This is a real Jon Favreau we're sure he's good situation for me. Got more than a few of these on the ledger.

58:59Joanna Robinson:Well, this was a whole Jon Favreau did not want to make this movie so quickly, but they locked him down right as the first Iron Man comes out. It's this massive success, and they just lock him down for Iron Man 2 and try to get it out as fast as possible. And when you see the behind-the-scenes footage of Favreau on set, he just looks so tired and sad. And he's just sort of like, I've made a real devil's bargain here.

59:20Sean Fennessey:Two great below-the-line contributors to this film. Do you know who the screenwriter of this movie is? No. Who's the sole credited screenwriter of Iron Man 2? No one knows who it is. Justin Theroux. Justin Theroux. Wow. I wrote a book. If you didn't know, that would have been a problem. The cinematographer of the film is Matthew Libatique. Long time Spike Lee collaborator.

59:41Rob Mahoney:Was this Disney era or no?

59:44Joanna Robinson:Yeah.

59:45Rob Mahoney:Disney had come in at this point.

59:46Joanna Robinson:They were, yeah.

59:47Rob Mahoney:Interesting.

59:50Sean Fennessey:That was a choice.

59:54Sean Fennessey:Is Rob up now? Yeah. Rob's up I'm scared you're gonna pick what I want I came here to win the draft and to experience ennui and I am out of ennui I will be selecting somewhere in I knew this was gonna happen right away you're fucking her I mean I was planning to do it next that feels spiteful and rude I don't know how I didn't see you coming it's a bit this is why I asked everyone to set the over under no one engaged he doesn't he doesn't know how to be any other way it's a bit

1:00:23Joanna Robinson:he doesn't know how to be any other way I love this movie me too and I have to say you're partially to blame if you weren't such a strong advocate for your perspective on cinema you're so welcome you know it really is a joy what do you love about it which category honestly first of all is it weird that this movie makes me want to be a dad is that a weird take away from they find each other I am a father of several kids one of the girl dad movies incredible girl dad movie honestly incredible Hollywood movie and more My Speed I find a lot of like movies about movies to be a lot frankly this one is so subdued it is so like rolling its eyes at the whole process it's a lot of like boring junkets and existential crises and that's where I like to live personally which category did you pick up?

1:01:11I'm gonna take it in I'm taking comedy.

1:01:16Mallory Rubin:Who plays the kid in this? Somewhere I don't think it's eligible. Like absolute star making stuff. I wouldn't get you. Challenge him. Yeah. You don't think it's a comedy? No. Okay, this movie. Parts of it are like this. Twin strippers are very funny. Do you know who those strippers are?

1:01:34Rob Mahoney:Those are the Shannon twins. Okay. And that movie. Hold on. Hold on. Go ahead. So look. So I'm watching that movie. I'm set. Those are the Shannon twins. Those are the first time I had ever seen the Shannon twins before. And I was like, whoa, that's the L.A. shit that I'm talking about. Now, they went on to do, you know who the Shannon twins are?

1:01:56Sean Fennessey:Tell us more.

1:01:57Rob Mahoney:You guys don't know about the Shannon? This is TMZ shit. Well, they went on to, so, you know the Blue Mountain? It's not porn addict shit. It's TMZ shit? It could be both. I don't think Sean denied it. He just deflected it. He knows who they are. They were in playboy at first. then you know Sam Jones from Blue Mountain State yeah okay he went on to do a sex tape with one of the Shannon twins so you got even more later on okay yeah so anyway this is the first time I ever saw them and where are they now the Shannon twins they ended up getting BBLs oh and so they changed a little bit okay but that's the first time I ever that's the first time I ever saw them was in that movie

1:02:32Joanna Robinson:did everyone they ended up getting BBLs on their bingo card of what we were talking about have you given this group what but they haven't had them they haven't had them

1:02:41Rob Mahoney:when they were when they were in that movie no no no in that movie but people are undoing the BBLs now oh I don't know if they've gotten I haven't seen them in a while

1:02:49Joanna Robinson:does one dissolve a BBL I don't actually know about the material I think they go

1:02:54Rob Mahoney:it depends on what kind of BBL it is

1:02:59Joanna Robinson:I'm backing Amanda this is not a comedy that's not a comedy

1:03:02Rob Mahoney:in any way shape or form the movie opens with them doing a dual strip dance to my hero there goes my hero It's not a comedy. It's not a comedy. What?

1:03:11Sean Fennessey:According to Wikipedia, somewhere is a 2010 drama film. Okay. So are you taking it in Wild Card? I will take it in original instead. Original it is. I agree.

1:03:19Mallory Rubin:I'm not sure that there's nobody in this movie that is based on some real.

1:03:22Sean Fennessey:It says it is based on the real life adventures of the Shannon twins. Isn't this at least semi-autobiographical? But not enough to disqualify it? I agree. All right. Points up. Inspired by but not yet. That's actually helpful for another pick. It's a contemporarily slight story about the daughter of the last day's son of her. It was in the Mickey Roark era and they were like, it's going to happen for Stephen Dorff's back. Dorff was right there. I know. And he's so good. He's wonderful. The teacup scene under the water at the Chateau. They tried to read Dorff once. I should have known. True Detective season.

1:03:55It's really good. Because Julian Casablanca's solo material is where you and I need to. Dorff is just fucking cool.

1:04:00Rob Mahoney:Dorff has been in like. I think he's a little self-declining. Season three. Not 11th Dimension. What's the really good song. How could it be? Very talented. You know that song? It came on the other day and I thought of you because it's a dynamite song. What was happening there? Because Rob and I believe in Julian Casablanca's solo projects. Not Voids. Just the solo album. It's like a six track all bangers no skip situation. And I should have known because I know he also loves Julian Casablanca's

1:04:28Sean Fennessey:as a former music journalist. You asked a question and I'm giving you the answer. So that's how we'll Just hit me with a Rob and I. All right. I'm glad you guys found Union. He did. He just shanked you in the chest. Okay. No, I was saying I should have known. She really likes him because if we had done it,

1:04:42Mallory Rubin:it would have just been fucking. I mean, you guys are a little cold on somewhere, which is like last time. It's not my favorite. I know you're just like, I've seen an Antonioni film before, which like, okay, congratulations. So I appreciate you know each other back then. How do you know what I mean? I know we've had many a Sophia conversation. I appreciate that Rob. I like it. It's not bad. Sees her work. True. Plus I am a man of a certain age

1:05:06Rob Mahoney:wandering around LA. Hey man, it looks like the Shannon twins got the BBLs taken out. Well, I was going to paint that picture but luckily I have I didn't realize this.

1:05:15Sean Fennessey:It looks like the Shannon twins. Guys, cross talk. I apologize. Complicated. I'm sorry. I'm sorry,

1:05:21Joanna Robinson:we were getting an update on the BBLs. They've been dissolved.

1:05:22Rob Mahoney:It looks like they got the BBLs taken out. I see,

1:05:25Joanna Robinson:I told you, that's what's happening. That's what they're doing.

1:05:28Rob Mahoney:In certain parts of the culture.

1:05:30Joanna Robinson:Yeah, right.

1:05:31Sean Fennessey:There's a camera literally over your shoulder.

1:05:32Rob Mahoney:Okay.

1:05:33Sean Fennessey:So be careful with what you're talking about.

1:05:34Joanna Robinson:Oh, you cannot dissolve a BBL.

1:05:36Rob Mahoney:It's a removal?

1:05:38Joanna Robinson:It's an extraction situation. Okay. Because what is... Well, it depends on what kind of BBL. Well, yeah.

1:05:44Rob Mahoney:You get the fat transferred and, like, you know, that's, like, kind of not... Sure. Then there's implants, but, like, the Shannon Twins look like they... They got the implants removed? Yeah. All right. I hope everything went wrong. So what category did you just take that in, Rob? You took it in original. I took it in original, yes. Okay.

1:05:58Mallory Rubin:Because you got bullied out of comedy, just like I got bullied out of comedy. It's an extremely gondy movie. I don't know what to say. No one was bullied. We'll find out when we get to your originals. It's funny, but not a comedy. Unless it's about the comedy of the emptiness of life. He chose a movie he hated to avoid just social occurrence.

1:06:13Sean Fennessey:Hate it? Okay, so I obviously was going to take somewhere in original next. And I was going to do it next because I knew Rob would be lurking. I just didn't think he would have the guts. And I kind of salute you. So what we learn from this is go with your heart. Oh, no. But, oh, no. Oh, I didn't even think about that. But then you just started whining. So, oh, so now I have to go with my other heart. Okay. This is an incredible experience. In comedy. Are we making a frittata? I'm taking Morning Glory. Yeah, we're making a frittata. You know what? I was not going to do it until you said, oh, no.

1:06:48So I just want you to learn a lesson from this, which is keep it tight.

1:06:52Sean Fennessey:Poker face. Keep it tight. Keep it tight. That's a good lesson. Morning Glory. An incredible 2010 romantic comedy written by Eileen Brush McKenna, who also wrote Devil Wars Prada, 27 Dresses. Shout out to the homie. This stars Rachel McAdams as an aspiring, well, she is a national news producer of the third-ranked morning show. And this is at a time, unlike in Disclosure Day, where broadcast news still mattered. Thank you. And she's producing a morning show starring Diane Keaton. She recruits Harrison Ford. Yep. The old anchor back. he is curmudgeonly and then ultimately he's not and he makes a frittata and then also exposes some local corruption and Patrick Wilson is there being very handsome.

1:07:41Really, really good movie that is undersung. It's sort of huffing working girls

1:07:49Joanna Robinson:but it works. It's really good. Even though I rewatched it recently or I just watched the frittata scene recently and he says it that way the whole time. And she is wearing a ball gown, not a ball gown. I'm sorry. It's a cocktail dress because it is just below the knee to her job interview at the Today Show. It's tough. Which is she wears a little cardigan over it. But she has to run in it. Right. Well, and you understand that they've chosen this dress. So they have the montage of her running in real New York where it is filmed with the dress. And she looks very pretty. This is also one of the reasons that then Rachel McAdams gave that lovely tribute to Diane Keaton at the Academy Awards this year, which was very nice.

1:08:29because they work together. They also work together on Family Stone, which I had forgotten. Underrated in its own way, but not released in 2010. So Morning Glory and comedy it is. Great. That's not what I had in mind. Okay. It's fine. No frittatas for you. But I always welcome a Harrison Ford selection. Deny, deny. Harrison Ford.

1:08:48Sean Fennessey:Now I am scared that Sean's going to take what I want though. Actually, genuinely. I have no idea what you're going to take.

1:08:56Sean Fennessey:I'm not quite sure where to go. Is it because you can't take a movie you hate and would give a six out of ten to? You're using the word hate. You're like Palpatine. You know? It's flowing through you not me. Unlimited power! I do that to Alice all the time now and she loves it. Incredible. Unlimited power! Incredible. That's very scary. It is very... She thinks it's hysterical. Okay. In comedy, I will be taking the other guys. Fucker. That hurts, Chris. The last true Adam McKay comedy. This is right before the big pivot to the socially minded. I would argue though, this is the beginning of the socially minded movies that he makes.

1:09:37Sean Fennessey:This is a comedy starring Will Ferrell and Mark Wahlberg in historical performances. Also showing us the hideous nature of capitalism. Thanks to Steve Coogan's character who is an evil banker. Incredible Michael Keaton performance in this movie. Five of the best minutes you'll ever see from The Rock and Sam Jackson to jump off the building is an iconic comedy woman. It's so funny. It's hard to,

1:10:02Mallory Rubin:the like outtakes of Eva Mendes scenes are just like some of the best. Who is that? Who is she? Are you allowed to talk about her into a microphone? She's one of your all timers. She's a goat.

1:10:15Sean Fennessey:She's like, this is one of her very last screen performances. She doesn't do a lot of movies after this. But like she's like,

1:10:20Mallory Rubin:when she's like, he's like, honey, I can't believe you're dressed in like that slop.

1:10:27Rob Mahoney:yeah that scene might be some of Mark Wahlberg's best acting he's so funny

1:10:32Sean Fennessey:that reacting to her entering the room is some of the best stuff he's ever done

1:10:36Mallory Rubin:what's going on I don't understand

1:10:37Sean Fennessey:who is that

1:10:39Mallory Rubin:no seriously who is that it's the old ball and chain yeah

1:10:45Sean Fennessey:and this does feel like kind of getting close to the end of this era of movies not just for McKay but for this whole cohort of Yaptow guys

1:10:52Rob Mahoney:what was the last one was it 22 Jump Street I mean get him to the Greeks the Tombstone right 22 Jump Street get him to the Greek you could argue Neighbors maybe Neighbors is a good one all of that stuff starts to fade away and those guys are gone Neighbors as well I like Neighbors too Neighbors is fucking Neighbors too

1:11:09Sean Fennessey:oh with the sorority girls yeah you wanted it to center women you thought Neighbors should center the female perspective

1:11:18Joanna Robinson:definitely

1:11:18Sean Fennessey:you like it I definitely want to go to Neighbors 2 for so yeah that's it that's not what you were worried about no I'm gonna I get to pick both the movies I wanted to pick here. I'm excited. Cool. Okay. I should. You said we recorded with you an hour ago and you were like, I'm going to be totally chill. She says that before every draft. Remember when you said Exception is a six out of ten. I picked social network. Everyone agreed it was a good pick. I'm staying biased. I've waited an hour to make my second pick and now I'll do so very quickly. With my second pick, I will be selecting my original.

1:11:55I'm thrilled to select Blue Valentine. I will be celebrating Cunnilingus here in the second round. One of the most memorable scenes in movie history. And also a movie about how falling in love and lust is exciting and being married is often quite hard. This is a movie that I think about often. You love a divorce. Yes, I really do love this movie. This is one of my favorite movies of the year. Just incredible performances from Michelle Williams and Ryan Gosling. And then I'm really excited to pick another one of my genuinely favorite movies from this year. I'm going to take Kick-Ass as my comedy on the turn here.

1:12:29I love Kick-Ass. That movie rules. It is incredibly, incredibly violent, incredibly comic, heightened, disturbing, riveting. It's a great genre film that is not actually eligible in original, to be clear, but it's very original in its spirit, even though it is part of a franchise. And I love that film.

1:12:55Mallory Rubin:Probably very influential in James Gunn stuff. Definitely. Deadpool. Deadpool. Definitely. Hyper-violent, kind of rude graphic. Forget the R rating. Let's go into NC-17 territory. And one of many, Nick Cage.

1:13:10Rob Mahoney:Oh. He never leaves us. He pops back in to check in on us. Oh, Nick Cage. So he can do it. Don't act so surprised. I feel like you're being very rude about it.

1:13:19Joanna Robinson:No, it's just sometimes you're like, huh. You're taking off for him. I'm here for all Caged. Sorcerer's Apprentice, whatever. Let's do it. Still waiting for your not seen the Naked movies I've seen. Still waiting for your Spider-Noir thoughts, by the way. Look, it's a busy time. I've had many

1:13:32Rob Mahoney:2010 movies to watch. I think it's a good show. Yeah, I think it's a good show. By the way, this guy that Ryan Gosling was during this time, I thought that he would be that guy forever.

1:13:41Sean Fennessey:This was my favorite actor in the universe. I thought that the

1:13:45Rob Mahoney:Place Beyond the Pines, Blue Valentine, dry version of Ryan Gosling. I thought that was going to be Ryan Gosling. And then Ryan went, nah, not too much. Let me sun it up a little bit. And he's been kind of drifting back and forth.

1:13:58Sean Fennessey:He did nice guys and he took a lot of time off. Yeah, he did. Walked away for a while. But like that dude was deadly coolest,

1:14:04Rob Mahoney:the coolest motherfucker in the entire time. This was also, this was like internet boyfriend. This was Hey Girl era, right? Yeah. Do you remember this? Yeah. It was really powerful stuff. the fact that Blue Valentine might have inspired hey girl we were we were adrift no it was Lars and the real girl

1:14:22Joanna Robinson:Lars and the real girl yeah yeah yeah

1:14:24Sean Fennessey:but I uh I'm holding my Derek C in France stock and I will be holding it in perpetuity one of my one of my favorite I got you brother I'm backstopping

1:14:33Mallory Rubin:your investment if we

1:14:34Sean Fennessey:if we just put Gosling in Roofman what is Roofman goes crazy but you know what

1:14:38Mallory Rubin:everybody nobody even knows he's still cooking off those Dick's Sporting Goods ads remember how goaded those were

1:14:44Sean Fennessey:I do

1:14:45Mallory Rubin:hell yeah yes I had breakfast to see in France once

1:14:48Sean Fennessey:just magical shit he was just like it's all about the soul just looking me right in the eyes dead serious I was like don't you know I'm an irony poisoned millennial weirdo and he was like

1:14:57Joanna Robinson:no listen it's about human connection in a house with him for a month before you had breakfast we got married, divorced, remarried

1:15:03Sean Fennessey:so I'm currently a bigamist I love him too

1:15:07Joanna Robinson:Fassbender recently told a story about how he and Alicia Vikander hooked up on the Derek C. in France set and how he used to Derek put his trailer here Michael Fassbenders was here and Alicia Vikander was here and he just used to sneak out at night to like fuck her wildly and then go back to his trailer in the morning. Wildly. Wildly. Good for him.

1:15:24Sean Fennessey:Some light between oceans. Oh, that was the lighthouse movie?

1:15:27Joanna Robinson:Yeah. They all had to live together for that one too. Yeah. Well, that one is sort of you're on a remote location. That's the whole gist of the movie. Good sweaters in that one. Who wouldn't fall in love

1:15:37Sean Fennessey:and create a family and stay together forever after making the light between oceans?

1:15:40Joanna Robinson:A film for our time.

1:15:44Sean Fennessey:My turn? Yeah. Blue Valentine and what was the second pick? Kick-Ass. Kick-Ass, of course. So I have, yeah, I took Blue Valentine as original and Kick-Ass as comedy. Okay. Hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm. Long time until it comes back to me. So yeah, that's how I feel. I'm halfway between that. Boy, I feel great about my first three, but round four is a long time. I think I'm going to take an Oscar nominee, the Australian crime drama Animal Kingdom. I almost took this. Fucking come on, Sean! I almost took this. Just a sick movie. Written and directed by David Michaud, starring Joel Edgerton, Ben Mendelsohn, Guy Pearce, and the Oscar-nominated Jackie Weaver, Best Supporting Actress.

1:16:23Mallory Rubin:Do you know what I was going to... Can I just tell you what I was going to do with this? You can do. This was going to be my franchise. That's one of the questions I texted him about. Could it be a franchise film? Part of the reason why I'm taking it

1:16:32Sean Fennessey:is because I knew there would be some interest in it in multiple categories, but it's also an awesome... It's one of the great crime movies of the 21st century. It's fantastic. Can we clarify the franchise point? Like, is this eligible for franchise? I think so. Yeah, okay. Did I say yes question?

1:16:44Mallory Rubin:They made like a long-running TNT series off this. They did, yeah. I just know the big picture can be very small-minded about television sometimes. And I just want to respect it as a big picture. But big screen mind. Wait, which category did you take it in? I'm taking it in Oscar nominee.

1:16:59Sean Fennessey:Jackie Weaver. Because of Jackie Weaver. Great movie. Shot by Adam Arkopal. This is a great, great movie. I think it's like a little kind of going under the radar now. I think this show maybe has not elevated the way that some people thought he would as a filmmaker. but I'm a huge fan of this movie

1:17:16Mallory Rubin:Mendelsohn's out of his mind in this he's so good

1:17:18Joanna Robinson:this was like a big like Ben Mendelsohn Joel Ederson like introduction that generation of Australian filmmakers

1:17:23Sean Fennessey:kind of coming to the fore at this time yeah for sure and Nash his brother and a bunch of other people popping at this time yeah okay damn it that was tough for me Amanda you ready yes and Rob Mahoney is lurking so I will now do my other heart as previously referenced in original I'm going to take Greenberg. Yeah. The Noah Baumbach film about a very angry man who writes letters because he can't connect with other people. I reference this movie both in terms of letter writing. I don't actually write the letters. Some other...

1:18:02Joanna Robinson:Do you compose them? In my head, I'm just like, if I were going to do this. And it also brings me back from the edge, you know? Like, you don't want to be the Greenberg writing the letter. You got a little Greenberg in you. Of course. You're now a newsletter author. And then, that's true, one. That would be

1:18:17Sean Fennessey:a good alternate title.

1:18:19Mallory Rubin:The Greenberg Diaries. To the management of Albertsons. Your aisles must be bigger. Amanda, did Greenberg inspire The Correspondent? What do you think? Have you read The Correspondent yet? I haven't read The Correspondent. It's on your list, I know, from your Instagram stories. Well, everyone recommended it. It's quite good. But I heard that it was very, a lot of crying. You'll, you will be sobbing. And I'm not looking for that experience in my life right now. But it's also uplifting and affirming. Right. But incredibly sad. So I'm going to do it. The other reason I reference this, I think of this movie all the time, is there's a scene when they're taking the Greta Gerwig character to get the abortion.

1:18:55And she says, can we go to In-N-Out afterwards? And Ben Stiller says, it's your day. And I, once a week, I say it's your day a lot to other people and I don't think they know that I'm referencing that scene in Greenberg. But I am. I fully am. Always be Greenberg. Yeah, anyway. Bombback is one of my favorite filmmakers. It's been, you know, an up and down and interesting journey.

1:19:23Sean Fennessey:On a text message between me, you and Tracy, this week I said, I will never ever sell my Bombback. And I will never sell it either, but I have found myself walking. I mean, I walked out of J. Kelly and was like, I miss Greenberg, Bombback. And this is this and Margot at the wedding are kind of the other end of the spectrum. There's like the very, you know, he's he's softened and opened his heart. And that's that's great in life. And maybe not in movies or at least not what I'm looking for. It is his day. But I find myself missing the Greenberg element.

1:19:58Mallory Rubin:Does Jennifer Jason Lee have a story credit on this movie? I believe she does. I think so. Yeah, that one. I was dancing around that part a little bit. she does. Yeah.

1:20:06Sean Fennessey:Yeah. It's an incredible movie about hating Los Angeles too. This guy fucking hates Los Angeles. He does. And lives in the most incredible house. Yeah. Which, you know, I get it. Still are making a Nix documentary. Did you guys hear about that? Yeah. Congratulations. But you guys are just

1:20:21Mallory Rubin:a team of the people, you know?

1:20:22Joanna Robinson:Do you think that's coming out before the next season of Severance or after?

1:20:25Sean Fennessey:Nix in five. Also, this trailer is not as big as the Social Network trailer for me, but this was with all my friends, LCD Sound System, and I still think about that. Oh, yeah. Anyway. Very, very formative. Anyway. Incredible. Were you going to take Greenberg? I was not going to take Greenberg. This is not one for me. This is kind of missed me for some reason. Yeah, well, you know, you're younger and full of hope, so that's good. I don't know. I did just take somewhere, so how full of hope could I be? In comedy. Rob, you're up. I will be selecting a movie that, I don't know if any of you care about this movie, but it means a lot to me personally.

1:20:56To me, one of the funniest movies ever made, I will be selecting MacGruber. Oh my God. I love this movie. I do. So, Rob, I had this really high on my list. It is, I mean, speaking of perfect movies. Incredible. Show me a movie that has a better getting the gang together montage, better use of celery, better dude plowing his wife's ghost on her gravestone. Yes!

1:21:18Rob Mahoney:I dare you to provide one. You can't. So, I had never seen this. Yeah. And Jomie was like, Van, you've never seen MacGruber? I can't believe you've never seen MacGruber. So we put it on.

1:21:30Mallory Rubin:Yeah.

1:21:31Rob Mahoney:I thought that movie was absolutely fucking terrible. What? I could not believe how bad. Val Kilmer plays a villain named Dieter Von Kumpf. And you're telling me this is a bad movie? When you were talking about getting the game together, that's like the wrestler's part, right? No, there's like a getting... I don't want to spoil the bit, but... Yeah, and they all get... His elite team. You can spoil McGruver. I would never. It's sacred to me. To me, I had never seen McGruver before. I had obviously seen the Saturday Night Live sketches. and I sat down like, okay, MacGruber, this is gonna be funny.

1:22:05Rob Mahoney:Joby said, Van, I cannot believe you haven't seen MacGruber. I tried to watch it. That shit was fucking ass to me. It was so terrible. I'm like, what did I miss about MacGruber? It's really not that funny. I stand by you, Rob. Did they ever try to make a sequel? Mal, thank you so much. Didn't they make a television show? They made a spin-off television show. That's right. So you guess it wasn't covered on the watch? I actually would like to select it in a franchise. Oh, there you go. Not comedy, a franchise. Hey! Never saw that coming, but I will allow it. But Van, this is hurtful. Every movie you have ever recommended to me is the most Inception 6 out of 10 movie I've ever seen in my life.

1:22:37And you're telling me

1:22:38Rob Mahoney:MacGruber is bad? So the movies that I like, I tell you that they're bad and the reason why. That's so bad. That was so bad. But he knows. Van knows. Well, I like movies for my own... So when someone... See, this is the deal. When someone suggests a movie to me and it's a movie that they love, I kind of expect to love it. When someone tells me, oh, this is the most important movie you've ever seen before. Then you're like, I'm going to write a blog post about how I hate it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, whatever.

1:23:05Sean Fennessey:But, and so Jomie did this. But you don't have a vendetta or anything. You're just an honest commentator is what you're saying.

1:23:10Rob Mahoney:I never have vendetta. Okay. I'm not a vendetta guy.

1:23:13Joanna Robinson:He just tells the truth.

1:23:14Rob Mahoney:Just tell the truth. Truth teller. And then, like, when I watch that, I'm like, this is just not that funny. Like, I just, I really wish that I would have thought that McGrew would be funny. It's okay, it's for us. This is the magic of cinema, guys. Good time to remind him that he took Iron Man 2 in the second round. I feel great about it. We can do a franchise battle anytime you want, Van.

1:23:30Joanna Robinson:Van, where are you on Jackass?

1:23:32Rob Mahoney:I like it. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

1:23:35Joanna Robinson:Don't, don't, Chris.

1:23:36Rob Mahoney:It's funny to me, but once again, I'm real early with the Jackass guys. Those are my guys. They both have to pick this round still.

1:23:43Mallory Rubin:Either of them can take it. You have a pick, right? It's my turn? No, Van's up. Van's up, sorry. Van, your turn. Do we need? Does Van need help with this microphone? I just thought of a good Greenberg letter that I want to write to the parking structure here because I keep getting locked in the doorways, like in the hallway. That's perfect. Do you have a fob? And it's like a real fire hazard. You have to have a fob. I don't have a fob because it'll come here. Well, how am I getting out of the parking structure?

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1:26:39Rob Mahoney:I'm going in original. All right. and it's an easy choice for me. Okay. Shannon Twin sex tape. That was also very good. Certainly some original content. It's directed by the Hughes Brothers starring Denzel Washington, The Book of Eli. Wow.

1:26:58Mallory Rubin:Amazing. That's not based on a graphic novel? No.

1:27:00Joanna Robinson:It's not based on the Bible?

1:27:02Mallory Rubin:Wow. Damn.

1:27:05Joanna Robinson:Uh-oh. Just pivot to a different category. It's fine. You can stick with the pick.

1:27:09Rob Mahoney:No, because I don't think it's actually based on about... It's not. Yeah. I like The Book of Eli, man. Like, The Book of Eli is one of those movies that when I walked out of it, I was like, yo, that shit was crazy. And my boys was like, you being serious right now? It was like, you, I thought it was, I love.

1:27:28Mallory Rubin:It was your MacGruber.

1:27:29Rob Mahoney:It's my MacGruber. A lot of people like MacGruber. But like, I liked The Book of Eli. I thought it was a weirdly serious movie with great actors in it and the girl from that 70s show. They had Mila Kunis You have You have Gary Oldman Gary Oldman and Denzel Washington In a post-apocalyptic movie About a blind man Who's trying to get a bible to the west coast I watch it every time And he has a dog right? I don't think he has a dog I think you're thinking of I Am Legend I don't think he has a dog Is there a dog in there?

1:28:12Sean Fennessey:There's an incredible vanism that I've come to understand very clearly. Which is every time you are asked your opinion of a movie

1:28:20Mallory Rubin:and you go, I liked it!

1:28:22Sean Fennessey:That means everybody else hated it, but you liked it. I didn't hate it.

1:28:25Mallory Rubin:I don't see how you can hate book of movies.

1:28:26Sean Fennessey:Or most people are like, eh. And you've come to defend. It's funny.

1:28:32Joanna Robinson:Hey, what did you think of Masters of the Universe?

1:28:35Sean Fennessey:Loved it! That is what you said after the screening. You were like, I liked it. I liked it.

1:28:41Rob Mahoney:This is the deal. There are certain times with me where I just surrender to the narrative of a movie. Book of Eli is for some reason I just took the movie seriously. Everyone's dead. They fucking trading ketchup packets in a post apocalyptic town. Gary Homan wants to get a Bible so he can control everybody's minds. I just thought we don't want him to get the Bible. I love the movie. I'm taking it. Only movies I like. Wonderful pick. I'm going to share a very quick story for Van's appreciation and benefit. my husband Adam knew this draft was today he knew the year and when Joanna and I finished a podcast this morning I looked at my phone and I had a text from Adam and it said this just want to make one last pitch he had not made a previous one for a couple movies I really love The Book of Eli and Tron Legacy this is why this is why he is my motherfucker this is why this is why this is my guy by the way I know that y 'all not gonna draft Tron I'm gonna take that bitch I'm gonna take Tron I'm gonna take Tron Adam is probably gonna vote for Vance I'm telling you this is why he's my guy

1:29:47Sean Fennessey:I'm gonna have to take

1:29:47Rob Mahoney:fun

1:29:48Sean Fennessey:on how these categories are shaping up

1:29:49Rob Mahoney:I know God

1:29:50Sean Fennessey:it's getting thin okay Book of Eli off the board CR you're up

1:29:53Mallory Rubin:alright do you want to talk about the possible trade are you guys really gonna do this you're gonna trade let's at least talk it through let's talk it out wow so Shutter Island for Inception what do I have to do to sweeten it since you took Inception second you have to flip wow you have to flip your order in like multiple rounds. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm asking him. What if you're not... You can't talk to a lady like that. You don't speak to her like that. Are you fucking crazy? I'll speak to her however I want. She's just doing it by themselves. We go way back. We go way back. One hundred percent.

1:30:28Mallory Rubin:She's just doing it by the way. Don't speak to her like that.

1:30:33Sean Fennessey:She's become a little too familiar on this show. Y 'all talk to my sister that way. I'm not gonna let's just discuss this idea this isn't a pure offer Animal Kingdom and Inception for Shutter Island and Unstoppable straight up

1:30:49Mallory Rubin:and can I move the categories that they were drafted in so I have to take Animal Kingdom and Oscar

1:30:54Sean Fennessey:you would take

1:30:55Mallory Rubin:and I would have to take Inception in Original or in Blockbuster is that clean? do you have so you just want to go two for two basically our drafts against one another but you're a first and second for his first and third because he has a higher overall first Interesting. I don't think we've ever successfully traded. Wow. What's that? I don't think we've ever successfully traded because there's too much spite.

1:31:15Sean Fennessey:We don't have to do it now. We can wait to see how the rest of the draft shapes out. I'm just surprised that you don't want that. I actually don't think that that is tough. I think you do have to do it now. This is just you and me.

1:31:23Mallory Rubin:This is all noise. It's just you. Based on what? I invented the rules of this game. Another lady. I've never seen this out of Chris before. I've never seen this out of Chris before. You don't speak to her that way. Chris is shouting down every woman on this call.

1:31:34Rob Mahoney:Quiet, bitch!

1:31:35Mallory Rubin:I'm like, the man are talking. Specifically with Mal. Don't tell me how to talk to. There's a draft card with the value of each pick. That's all. That's how it works. I have created so much space for Mal to just. I support you endlessly. The picks can't just be swapped. There has to be value elsewhere. That's all. I know what she's going to do. She's going to be the gatekeeper, dungeon master, key master. Not at all. I think the trade would be very interesting. I'm telling you, I don't know how interested I am in doing full-scale swaps. For as jealous as I am about Animal Kingdom, I think Shudder for Inception and would have...

1:32:14Mallory Rubin:That's a bad value pick. That's not a good value pick.

1:32:17Rob Mahoney:Do you want to trade Inception for Shudder Island? I was going to offer a pick swap. I could have just taken Shudder Island. That doesn't make sense. Oh, pick swap is good. A pick swap? Yeah. Oh.

1:32:26Joanna Robinson:Mallory likes that less. Oh, swap.

1:32:28Sean Fennessey:There's not as much value here at this point. What about future draft capital? Inception for Shutter Island and a pick swap at this point in round four?

1:32:37Mallory Rubin:Or the next time I get the number one pick, I automatically give it to you.

1:32:42Sean Fennessey:No, we're not doing future swaps, so that's not eligible.

1:32:44Rob Mahoney:I think that's awesome. Now we have a little, now we got something cooking. It would be so awesome if in the next draft, I held your number one from Sean Finney. Now we're having fun.

1:32:55Sean Fennessey:But then it makes the un-predetermined draft order a little bit more challenging. I don't want to go into the future. I want to stick in this draft. I want to do it like Leon Rose does it. You know? Player for player. How do we get OG here?

1:33:07Mallory Rubin:He gave up five picks for Mikael Bridges. Financial doping based on secret payments made to Rick Brunson. Right? No. I mean, I tell you who blow the wind up. That's like, Pablo, what are you going to do? Oh, that happened? Oh, dear. Okay. It's rude for thought. It's rude for thought. And you know what? I just want to say, I love you. And anytime you want to chime in. A lot of feedback from other people with no commentary from you on their responses. Just observe with interest. I'm going to take Jackass 3D and comedy. That's a great one. Incredible. The other night, as I was preparing for this incredible draft, my wife heard me crying with laughter.

1:33:49Mallory Rubin:And she said, husband.

1:33:51Joanna Robinson:And you're like, I'm watching somewhere. Husband, what is it? Call me to hear.

1:33:56Mallory Rubin:and I said wife I am watching Bam Margera fall through the floor into a pit of plastic snakes and when he tries to climb out of this hole a guy comes and starts dumping real snakes on him and Bam Margera has a full scale panic attack and starts crying

1:34:16Sean Fennessey:great news

1:34:17Mallory Rubin:you're sitting on top of a trap door and below you That's the next level for all of our pods. I know. It's true if we just started doing snakes. Do you think that Amanda would react well if we did the giant hand hitting her? How do we not have that in the office already? Or the hall of tasers? One of the two. I know. Seriously. This movie also features... Are you afraid of snakes? I have never tested that theory. How would you do? I don't find them scary on screen. Do you like it when someone brings a snake out as like... Gotta admit, that's never happened. Unattractable. Like a snake handling preacher.

1:34:52Oh, I'm getting out the photo of Alice meeting the snake? Yeah. Oh, so at our preschool end of year event last week, the preschool family keeps some snakes, and they show up late at the event every year. We're chilling with some snakes on Friday.

1:35:06Sean Fennessey:I held a snake on Friday.

1:35:08Joanna Robinson:We had snakes as classroom pets growing up. These are bigger snakes. Oh, I just, yeah. Yeah, yeah. They're sort of like Britney Spears reminiscent. Like the season three euphoria snake?

1:35:18Mallory Rubin:I think Raiders of the Lost Ark actually did a lot. that worked against snakes. And anyway, this film also features Chris Pontius tying his penis to her remote control helicopter.

1:35:34Mallory Rubin:Knoxville bullfighting while wearing camouflage.

1:35:38Sean Fennessey:My favorite piece of content from 2026 is Knoxville being interviewed and very sincerely talking about his relationship with bulls and how he's no longer allowed to be near bulls because he loves them so much and loves the potentiality of being gored by them. So to protect his mind, he can't go in the ring anymore.

1:35:56Rob Mahoney:What's wrong with those guys?

1:35:57Sean Fennessey:They have a lot of problems. I'm not saying like,

1:36:00Rob Mahoney:what I'm saying is like, obviously they made it, but like they are really super human. Many of them are quite broken.

1:36:08Mallory Rubin:They're great artists though. Their bodies are broken. They do it for us.

1:36:11Rob Mahoney:A lot of CTE. No, they are, but like. I forgot about the helicopter penis.

1:36:23You're talking about one of the co-stars of somewhere Not a comedy That's exactly right This is what I'm saying What a year for Pontius

1:36:28Mallory Rubin:He apexed this year So I'll take Jackass

1:36:31Sean Fennessey:So it goes to Joe Partyboy Partyboy is funny, man Okay, so you have another pick or no? No, it goes to Joanna Oh, I'm sorry Five people have taken comedies already Sheesh Not Rob, though Great comedy year

1:36:43Mallory Rubin:He tried to take it in somewhere I know They took it away from him He did Denied

1:36:47Sean Fennessey:Joanna Robinson In original

1:36:52Joanna Robinson:This is a question I have In original I'd like to take The comedy Easy A No No Scarlet Letter It's not Scarlet Letter It's not But it's inspired by That's why I asked at the beginning It's not the Scarlet Letter It's the Scarlet Letter It's referenced in the I think they say too much That that's like connected text It's not based on the Scarlet Letter it's not because you fucked the priest take it as your comedy it's not the story of the scarlet letter at all I it is it's not it's iterative of the scarlet letter and that's also and that's like Seth's Will Gluck's whole career of just updating stuff until one night only which

1:37:32Sean Fennessey:I hear you you've mounted a very reasonable offense once again look at the Wikipedia and see how quickly the scarlet letter is mentioned there it is like the movie does not exist without the scarlet letter partially inspired

1:37:44Rob Mahoney:by the 1859 Very Wikipedia-centric as well.

1:37:49Joanna Robinson:Scarlet Pimpernel.

1:37:50Sean Fennessey:Scarlet Pimpernel? I love him. I'm sorry to say. So you're going to put it in comedy? You can get your comedy. Yeah.

1:37:58Joanna Robinson:It's a great pick here. I'm just going to think about it.

1:38:00Mallory Rubin:You don't want to do it now.

1:38:02Sean Fennessey:You don't want to. Chris can speak more about Chris Panius' penis if you'd like. Yeah. I would, frankly. I would like. Do the sound again.

1:38:12Sean Fennessey:You did ask me this yesterday or no? No. I did not but I love that movie incredible Emma Stone performance it's also eligible in Oscar yeah for that reason yeah yeah yeah okay alright listen we're trying to support you while enforcing safe boundaries you know which is do you feel that

1:38:34Joanna Robinson:Black Swan is too iterative of Swan Lake I do I feel it's too iterative of Perfect Blue to be honest with you but that's a different conversation

1:38:42Sean Fennessey:it's actually the same thing where without it without Swan Lake Black Swan does not exist. This is among my least favorite developments on this show. This category. If you can't make a movie

1:38:49Joanna Robinson:about art, you can't make a movie about art. Like if you make Shakespeare in Love, you're like, well, Romeo and Juliet is too involved in that. No, that would be okay. Are you kidding me?

1:38:59Sean Fennessey:Shakespeare in Love

1:39:00Joanna Robinson:would be okay? Shakespeare in Love would be okay? Shakespeare in Love is not original. No way. You said it can't be based on real people. It's not original. You said it can't be based on real people. Come on. Who Shakespeare is in it? Even if it's historical fiction, what are you talking about? if you're gonna be a tyrant at least be consistent watch how you speak to me

1:39:23believe it or not Black Swan was not nominated for best screenplay so we won't know in what category let's see was it Golden Globe maybe they don't hold on let's see ECA and Black Swan good picks those are great picks good picks on the turn in the other categories. I'll think about it. I'll think about it. I have other questions for you. Okay. He did not. Let's see. Black Swan script nominees. Keep, I'm sorry. I'm just trying to fill and support you. No, I feel supported. Okay. Thank you so much.

1:39:59Joanna Robinson:Would we?

1:40:05Do you have this in your house also when like one person is trying to look up something on the phone or on the internet and, or like fix something on the computer and the other person is just sitting right next to you telling you how to do a word to click.

1:40:17Mallory Rubin:Yes, that's the closest I've come to divorce. Thank you. I will not abide it. Get out of the room while I'm using the internet. Unbelievable. He's just like, no, no, click here. No, what?

1:40:34Thank God.

1:40:36Joanna Robinson:You hot? Very. All right. Thank you so much for your patience. We just, we filled some time. Thanks for vamping. I appreciate you. In comedy, I would like to take Easy A. All right. Great pick. That's a great pick. That feels condescending. Easy A. Thank you so much.

1:40:50Rob Mahoney:Well done. Emma Stone. Way to go, Jared. It's a great movie. Deleting it.

1:40:56Mallory Rubin:I'm an ally. Don't say anything else otherwise.

1:41:00Joanna Robinson:In original, I will be taking the Angelina Jolie film, Salt. No! I thought Dobbins was going to pick that. I mean, I had it in wildcard and it was backup for original. Listen. Original's a tough category. She's not a real person? No. It was originally written for - Evelyn Salt? Yeah. It was supposed to be Edwin Salt, right? Yeah, Edwin Salt. I really, really wish this were eligible for a franchise. Where is Salt 2? Where is Salt 2? Jack, you seen Salt yet? 2010, Salt 2, Salt and Pepper? I haven't gotten to it yet. It's really very good.

1:41:31Sean Fennessey:Salt 2, Colin Pepper, obviously. Anyway, your pick, Joanna. Speak on it. That's it. Just Salt. thwarted from the movie show on it to take.

1:41:41Mallory Rubin:Philip Noyce? Yeah. Banger.

1:41:43Joanna Robinson:Yeah. It's a great Angelina Jolie action film. A tremendous assortment parade of wigs which I always appreciate. And listen, they leave the door open for a sequel. I would love to watch Salt 2. Yeah.

1:42:00Mallory Rubin:If Inception's 6 out of 10, what's Salt?

1:42:03Joanna Robinson:11 out of 10.

1:42:05Mallory Rubin:4?

1:42:06Sean Fennessey:Not a Salt guy.

1:42:07Mallory Rubin:Okay, and what would ballerina be?

1:42:10Sean Fennessey:John Wick presents colon ballerina. Two? Three. Okay, all right. I mean, that's fine, as long as that's the scale we're working on. Just trying to get a baseline. Look, making pods is all about doing shit like Inception is a six out of 10. This is what it is. This is the art form. I would never shush a woman in my real life.

1:42:31Joanna Robinson:He'd never tell a woman how to scroll. I mean, that in real life. It's an adaptation of the Charlotte letter, when it's not.

1:42:36Rob Mahoney:You keep trying to walk it back. We saw what you did with Rubber Methorol. Van, like, really white knighted.

1:42:43Mallory Rubin:That's awesome. He was just like, sir! In the name of the Shedding Twins, I have to see you. Let Mallory speak. So here's something interesting that I did not find by scrolling up, by starting a new Google search. So Black Swan was an original screenplay at the WGAs. but it often changes the designation between original and adapted for the Academy. So again, not conclusive. There was also like another screenplay, right? You guys also noted to me

1:43:13Sean Fennessey:that my original screenplay idea was stupid and that also shouldn't be the way we judge this.

1:43:17Joanna Robinson:Yeah. Well, I just... I'm just trying to mix up

1:43:19Sean Fennessey:these drafts, guys.

1:43:20Joanna Robinson:I really appreciate that. I just don't think that if you are like inspired by a piece of art but not adapting it, that should be called unoriginal. We all agree. We all wish the category worked differently. A lot of me is. It's last one is like, they perform it. Yeah, if you perform the thing in the movie, it doesn't make it an adaptation of the thing.

1:43:40Sean Fennessey:The ultimate heart is hitting a 100 mile an hour fastball. But it's not - When you do it well, you get to be a legend forever. The same is true here. That's the draft, bro. Sports Joe, get in there. Thank you.

1:43:53Mallory Rubin:I'm a feminist. CR's up. Okay, let me just recap where I'm at just so I can get a good sense of it. Because a lot of - Jack, this is going really well, right? It's going good. I like how the energy we discussed previously when we recorded today, it's like, it's going to be super chill and normal. So I need a franchise film. I need an original.

1:44:11Joanna Robinson:Isn't that part in the sky letter when they like spell their P's? Wow. I'm going to wait to draft it. It's called Pumper Neal. Yep. Is it Pumper Neal? Exactly. Which one is it? Rob, do you buy plane tickets on your phone or on your computer? I buy them on my computer. Okay. So you're still one of us. Unfortunately. I get stressed doing it on my phone. I can't do it on my phone. I don't trust it. No, but that is a real like millennial laptop generation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By a serious purchase, it's on the laptop. Yeah.

1:44:36Rob Mahoney:Yeah, you gotta get it out. Of course. Don't trust the connection. Don't trust anything happening on the phone. But I just wanted to make sure that we were in a safe space. Jack, how are you buying plane tickets? Laptop. Okay. Phone is crazy.

1:44:44Mallory Rubin:Oh, interesting. I mean, I agree. Jack's an old soul. That's true. Is that so? I'll change my tickets on my phone after I've purchased them. Well, they've set it up so you have to do it in their app once you are making... And don't even get me started on the upgrade stuff, but... Enfranchise, I'm taking the Twilight Saga, a colon eclipse.

1:45:04Joanna Robinson:Do you want to tell me once again what happens in Eclipse?

1:45:07Mallory Rubin:Yeah, Victoria is creating an army of baby vampires. Bella is seeking refuge with... Victoria is Dakota Fanning? No, that's Bryce Dallas Howard. Dakota plays... Easy.

1:45:20Joanna Robinson:The Volturi. The Volturi, yeah.

1:45:22Mallory Rubin:They're on the scene.

1:45:23Joanna Robinson:Jamie Campbell Bower is a Volturi.

1:45:25Rob Mahoney:Yeah, he's in there. Is this the one where you think that they got the head cut off? Let's break it down part one. That one rules.

1:45:32Mallory Rubin:This was Jacob's glow up. He got school. Oh, that's when he came through. One night, they're on a mountain and he has to keep her warm with his... Wolfness? His supine, lupine body heat. Maybe it's supine and supine burn. Lupine body heat.

1:45:48Rob Mahoney:Honestly, this is one of the things that I miss about the Arclight. The Arclight had that little cool bar, right? Me and Khalika would go...

1:45:56Joanna Robinson:Get a stadium pour. Yeah, we'd go, have a couple of drinks.

1:46:00Rob Mahoney:and then we will go into Twilight. Twilight is fun. Twilight kept the lights on in this town for a long time. But if you have a couple of drinks and go into Twilight, it is fucking amazing.

1:46:11Sean Fennessey:Okay, I'm going to make a suggestion. Next time there's a big screening. A lot of these screenings we all go to together.

1:46:17Mallory Rubin:Right.

1:46:18Sean Fennessey:We get there at five. We hit up MacGuffins.

1:46:20Mallory Rubin:And we go see Twilight instead.

1:46:22Sean Fennessey:We drink two cocktails. Let's go. I don't know if I can. I think I can pull that off tomorrow. Oh, we're going tomorrow. Yeah. MacGuffins?

1:46:30Rob Mahoney:And it's 7th, it's a late start. You guys are going to Century City? Yes. Oh, let's do it. Yeah. Because we're going to need a drink for that. That's what I'm saying. I'm sorry. Oh, sisters are doing it by themselves. For themselves.

1:46:45Rob Mahoney:It feels that way sometimes.

1:46:48Joanna Robinson:It's been five years that he's been saying

1:46:49Sean Fennessey:sisters are doing it by themselves. I believe Supergirl written and directed by men. No? True.

1:46:54Rob Mahoney:Funny how that worked out. No, no, no, no, no. No, is it? Yes. Oh, wow, that's fucked up. But that's a tough one. I need to get on that. Why are you pointing at Joe? Joe is my sister. She keeps me in the feminist. But look, that'll be fun. It's not written by a man, but it is directed by a man. That'll be fun. That'll be fun. And Twilight. James. Why did I have to look? I know. Twilight was fun because you'd have those drinks. Man, she wanted to fuck him so bad. She loved. loved him. Bella. Loved Edward. Who's the him in question? Who are you talking about? Like Edward. But also Jacob. That's the whole thing.

1:47:36That was the star

1:47:37Rob Mahoney:of Remember Me. Kind of. But when Edward would come on the screen, you would see that Jacob really couldn't. Jacob was just like, she was like, he was running for third. Edward literally sparkled. It's true. And the whole arc light would be full of people going crazy. It was actually a lot of fun. Very Gail Peeta. It was always Peeta. What is it? Taylor Lautner. Taylor Lautner. And he married a woman named Taylor. That's right. And her name is also

1:47:58Joanna Robinson:Taylor Lautner. I think they have a And he dated Taylor Swift Yeah What's the song? It's like Madison Bumgarner Dating a Madison Bumgarner Which one is it? It is It's like something In the woods In the woods? What's the Taylor Swift song? No that's Taylor No that's Harry Styles I know it is Harry Styles This one is slower That's when they have Like their snowmobile Enchanted December Enchanted? No Enchanted to meet you Can I just I think it's called Enchanted to meet you Yeah Twilight Saga colon Eclipse

1:48:24Mallory Rubin:Was directed by David Slade

1:48:26Joanna Robinson:Back to December Is about Taylor Lautner Oh okay cares about David Slade's work.

1:48:30Mallory Rubin:David Slade directed 30 Days of Night. Metalhead. And Metalhead, episode of Black Mirror. Oh, yeah. Metalhead is great.

1:48:37Sean Fennessey:30 Days of Night, I also fuck with. Me too. A shocking pick from CR in the fourth round. You're the best. Okay, now we go to Van.

1:48:44Rob Mahoney:Franchise film, Tron Legacy. You already picked a franchise film. Yeah, you already did. Iron Man 2. But you can pick that in. Wild card Tron Legacy. Good news. I think it's Oscar nominated. Well, if it's Oscar, I don't want to do Oscar nominated.

1:48:55Sean Fennessey:I'm just, what are we doing? Van's my guy. What do you do?

1:48:58Rob Mahoney:Okay, so I'll change the whole pick. No, no, you take a number of categories. So I did franchise film already. What do I have left, Jack? Oscar nominee.

1:49:08Sean Fennessey:We have like an hour to go. Blockbuster.

1:49:10Joanna Robinson:Do we? I have three more picks to make. Wildcard, Foreign and Animated. I don't think I'm going to be allowed to go with the comments because I'm not going to get home. Blockbuster. Oh, man. And Blockbuster. By the way, Enchanted and Meets was about the Owl City guy. Yeah, okay, I'll take Tron Legacy and Blockbuster then. Okay.

1:49:26Rob Mahoney:Which one? Blockbuster Tron Legacy Tron Legacy I have to have it because guess what I have fun I liked it guess what I have fun it's a really fun rewatch at the end of a party

1:49:38Joanna Robinson:I think this is when you put on Tron Legacy when everyone's like Kirsten Dunst like super drunk

1:49:43Rob Mahoney:it's great

1:49:44Joanna Robinson:Da Funk is going

1:49:46Rob Mahoney:they're fighting D.A.G. Jeff Bridges Michael Sheen

1:49:50Joanna Robinson:Michael Sheen

1:49:52Rob Mahoney:Grant Headlin Garrett Headlin A real potato person. Yeah. Yeah, that guy. Where's he at now? I don't know. I can see it. But he did date Kiki for a while. He did. So that's why. But it was after this. Biggest shine on him. It was after this.

1:50:04Joanna Robinson:But then remember he was in that Peter Pan movie? Which one? No, I don't remember that. Which Peter Pan? That's exactly the point. No, I don't remember him. I don't remember him. Like Captain Hook in a Peter Pan movie. I don't remember that. Oh, dear. It was like a book prequel.

1:50:14Rob Mahoney:I remember Troy. Remember Triple Frontier? Of course. Because I do. Vividly, yeah. That shit is the bomb. Are you kidding how much we love Triple Frontier on this podcast? That shit is the bomb. No one else likes it. He and I shared a twist. Lost control. I love that. You don't like Triple Frontier? I do. I'm a big fan. Triple Frontier. I'm on the record about that. That is one of the best scenes ever of like Delta Force Navy SEAL guys stalking each other, call out your kills, identify. I love that choice. The cinema of J.C. Shandor. Love it.

1:50:41Sean Fennessey:Followed closely by Craven the Hunter. You gotta do that. It's a tough one. I like that movie. Okay, good pick. Kramer was okay. Who's up now? Mal? Rhino.

1:50:53Mallory Rubin:Rob. Rob. I like that movie.

1:50:58Rob Mahoney:I like that movie. Rhino. That's my set. I liked it. I like to have fun at the movies. I will be selecting I Am Love. You fucked Amanda again. Let me just say something to you now. That's mean. It's a little bit like your single white female. And that's okay. And that's fine. And I'd love to influence. Some real Jennifer Jason Leish. It is. Yeah. And that's okay. Let's start calling Rob Hedy for the rest of the time. Can I ask you a question? When did you draft MacGruber?

1:51:30Mallory Rubin:I can only be myself.

1:51:32Joanna Robinson:Hide your spike tie heels.

1:51:33Mallory Rubin:And doesn't this kind of also show you the safe space Sean and I create for you here usually? You don't give a fuck about I Am Love. Have you ever seen it? It's Almodovar, right? No. So get out of here. Shout out to Luca. It's Luca Guadagnino. Speak on it, Rob. Since you love it so much. Which category? I'm going to take it in I'm going to take it in for an animated. Are you going to put Artificial up on your Instagram? Will you save that film?

1:51:58Sean Fennessey:Are you going to distribute Artificial?

1:52:00Rob Mahoney:Isn't it kind of Precious and Beautiful though that Rob loves these movies? That's what I'm saying. Take it as a compliment. It's a great film. It's a wonderful movie. I've never even heard of it. It's beautiful and very sad. Yeah, it's kind of Precious and Beautiful. The same movies that Amanda loves Rob loves. That's what's great about movies. That's what's great about movies. He's a totally regular man You don't have to say it like that But he You know I think this movie is actually incredible I think it has a lot to say about Secrets and family and the European Urge to bang your son's best friend And who else will speak to that in our time You do seem prepared to talk about it

1:52:40Mallory Rubin:But I also feel like you are unabombing her You are I think both things can be true Here's what it is I have a piece of Amanda's hair. Here is a question. How many times in your life have you Googled the actor who plays not the son's best friend, but the son? Oh, you got it for the son. Yeah. Flavio? He has not been in another... He has not done anything else. He's so handsome. Yeah. He is quite handsome. Really very handsome. There is a moment in this movie where Tilda Swinton has long hair and she gets a haircut to get the Tilda Swinton. And it's like Thor picking up the hammer. It is a super heroic moment that I found incredibly captivating.

1:53:21I love a wonderful movie. Really very beautiful. Have you ever been to Milan? Anyone here? Milan? I haven't. I wish. I'd like to go. Not a soul. You guys haven't been?

1:53:30Joanna Robinson:Is this not just American Beauty Reskin? What?

1:53:33Mallory Rubin:How dare you? Are you saying that this is... What did you pick this in? I was thinking in foreign animated. Foreign language animated. Is it in English? It is not. It is in... Primarily in Italian. Tilda speaking straight Italian, some Russian. She is married into like a very wealthy Milanese family and doesn't meet with their standards. And so then she meets a chef and they have a lot of sex while Bumblebees swirl around. They do. It's a great field. That was kind of upsetting. Bumblebee the transformer? Yeah. Exactly. Wow. That would be a film to watch. Talented and versatile performer. Bumblebee visits Milan.

1:54:08And Fox still does listen.

1:54:10Rob Mahoney:So just real quick. That's exciting. Real quick. Everybody here has seen this movie. I have. I have. Oh, okay. Sorry. Yes. Part of the desire. Yeah. It's Luca Guadagnino. It's like his. Kind of his breakthrough. Yeah. His breakthrough. And then he made Call Me By Your Name and Challengers. And this is a real time for Tilda too. Artificial. Yeah. Which I would like to see. All right, Amanda. All right. Well, that was a kick in the dick. Would you have taken that? Would that have been your pick here? Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, because I didn't. I didn't know that his research was going that deep, but I guess it is.

1:54:38It's fine. I guess this will push me to do foreign language animated now. And I'm going to take dog tooth. the Yorgos Lanthimos film that

1:54:46Mallory Rubin:it's the only good one of the Yorgos you haven't seen any of the other ones I saw some of them what did you say the dead the dead deer one what's that one called that's it that was the title no I saw the lobster and I saw you're not a fan of the lobster I like the lobster no you saw poor things didn't you I skipped through it on Hulu what jumped around for the sex scenes well they are powerful

1:55:10Rob Mahoney:I could say you like you don't know Jack liked that

1:55:12Mallory Rubin:wow yeah I don't like no begonia Begonia? Nope. And you didn't do... Really? Oh yeah, Begonia was pretty good. I went to the end of Begonia to see what people were talking about. Okay. Begonia gave us up. I thought Begonia was good though.

1:55:24Joanna Robinson:I liked Begonia. This is the secret behind Chris being able to talk about any subject on any podcast. He's like, I clicked it, I got it.

1:55:30Sean Fennessey:I get it. You just watch scenes on Twitter and then you're like, I saw that. I still think his most iconic version of this is that he skips the scenes with the hobbits when he watches The Lord of the Rings.

1:55:40Mallory Rubin:It's incredibly efficient to really watch this. If you're doing that, then literally nothing is sacred when you're going through a movie. I kind of respect this.

1:55:48Rob Mahoney:I respect the fuck out of it. Because those guys are fucking annoying. What? Then you go see the Hobbit movies. Those guys are annoying, man. Man, this is your shit with your brother.

1:55:57Joanna Robinson:Different Hobbits. You know that's true.

1:55:58Mallory Rubin:Sam and Frodo, that I am like, you guys start the same and end the same and just walk a lot. I'm here for Boromir, okay? I'm here for Striker.

1:56:07Rob Mahoney:Scramulon? Scramulion?

1:56:08Joanna Robinson:The Simmerillion. The Simmerillion. The Simmerillion.

1:56:11Rob Mahoney:What is it called? How do you say it? Silmarillion.

1:56:13Joanna Robinson:The Book of Eli. He's very excited.

1:56:17Rob Mahoney:They're doing the Silmarillion. I am loved. What did you pick?

1:56:20Joanna Robinson:Silmarillion. Did you pick anything? I picked Dogtooth.

1:56:23Sean Fennessey:I just started thinking about it. Dogtooth is an amazing movie. That's a great movie. It's an amazing movie. I love Dogtooth. Do you think Dogtooth is? I like the work of Yorgos Lathamos, but much like Greenberg, Dogtooth is on the more fucked up spectrum, which is where I like him to reside. I appreciated poor things, but it was a little too, you know, whimsical costume drama. You got this girly for me. So Dogtooth is messed up.

1:56:48Mallory Rubin:Do you think Dogtooth is a good girl dad movie? No, it's a terrible one. No, it's very bad. It's extremely bad. He doesn't let her out of the house. But he's not making any more films, so you're good. Now he's just doing photography. So, you know, I got the last good one. I'm once again worried you're going to take what I want. What does Boromir do? He dies, he has hubris. He thinks he can hold the ring. My captain. My king. Gets me every time. Give them a moment for pity's sake.

1:57:20Sean Fennessey:I think at this point, I'm probably just going to take stuff I really enjoy. As opposed to Inception. That's right. What have we been doing here? I think you guys misunderstand what this exercise is. Do we? This is not an expression of your life. Yeah. It's an expression of Rob trying to take mine. Oh, wow. I guess Rob understands it. Everybody else doesn't understand it. You have the guy who sincerely like jackass 3D. Rob, do you use the real real? I don't use it. Should I be using the real real? I'm careful. I'm bidding you. I'll tell you what, it blockbuster. You don't bid on the real real, just so you know.

1:57:55This is fun. This is riveting audio content. What do you think I'm going to do? I'm not going to say it.

1:57:59Joanna Robinson:Mallory, I think she's in a telepathic conversation with every single person. He's not going to do what you think he's going to do. I actually think he is going to do what I want to do. No, he's not.

1:58:04Rob Mahoney:I say we let him do it. I should have done it, honestly, but Rob got it in my head, so. unless you want to do it. What do you think I'm going to do? Not going to say it until after you make five. I want to see now.

1:58:15Sean Fennessey:There's no way you're going to take this movie. I'm taking Tangled. Oh, wow. Okay. So close to what I was worried you were going to do, but not the thing I was worried you were going to do. Tangled is Rapunzel animated animated telling of Rapunzel.

1:58:27Joanna Robinson:Manny Moon. They're making a live action version of it. Get excited. You're going to have to watch it because it's going to be live action now. I'll tell you a little bit about it. He does not watch the live actions. That's my blockbuster. How many Disney movies have you, Chris Ryan, seen in your lifetime?

1:58:41Mallory Rubin:You've seen the classics, right? I've seen a bunch. Bednar's and Bonesy. Fantasia. Tangled is a little bit overlooked.

1:58:46Sean Fennessey:Lion King? Because in this period, Disney was down a little bit. Little Mermaid? Guys, please. I just picked a movie for Christ's sake. No one cares. No one cares what Disney movies Chris hasn't seen, Amanda. What are you talking about? I think more people do care. They do not. Chris can't think of five Disney movies off the top of his head right now if you had a gun to his head. I can't do. Is this like a challenge?

1:59:11Mallory Rubin:Go. Jackass is not a Disney movie. Aladdin? Oh, I love Aladdin. Does Star Wars count? No!

1:59:21Joanna Robinson:Have you seen clips of any other animated films recently? Oh, man. Oh, my God. Beauty and the Beast? Like a Moana clip maybe came across, you know? Aladdin 2 Return of Jafar was right there. It was right there for you. Pride of Zimba. Prince of Beasts? You haven't seen the line. I'll fuck with Prince of Beasts.

1:59:37Mallory Rubin:You've seen Cinderella? Yeah, Beauty and the Beast. When did you see Cinderella? I mean, which one are we talking about? It's just remarkable.

1:59:45Sean Fennessey:Tell us more about Tangled. Tangled is underrated. Tangled is good. It's really good. It's fine.

1:59:51Joanna Robinson:Yeah, it's like a six out of ten.

1:59:54Sean Fennessey:I took my little sister to see this movie when she was nine years old. Oh, that's cute. You should have lied with that. She was staying over with me when we were living in New York. and we went to on Orchard. Yep. No, it might have been Brooklyn. I might have moved to Brooklyn by this point. But we went to the AMC in Kips Bay and went to go see this and had an amazing time. And then I had the nice opportunity to watch it with my daughter years later and now Rapunzel, one of her goats. Mandy Moore, very good. Really good. Songs are pretty underrated. I see the light.

2:00:29Joanna Robinson:The songs are...

2:00:30Sean Fennessey:I have crushed a karaoke many times. What's your story here with crushing Tangled?

2:00:34Joanna Robinson:I just, I think it's a mediocre. Disney animated. I think this is straight up better than Frozen to be honest with you. As a non-Frozen person

2:00:42Sean Fennessey:I'm kind of with you.

2:00:43Joanna Robinson:The songs aren't nearly as good. I agree but the movie Frozen

2:00:46Sean Fennessey:is not. Don't be funny. Yeah come on. But it's only the songs that's what I'm saying. The movie is Frozen the movie is I'm with you Rob. I feel the same way. I've watched Frozen many times. Do you think he's going to change his mind or are you worried? What? No. Don't worry I won't talk about a tango. No. I'm relieved. I'm thrilled. Okay, Mal, you can take what you like now. I would like you to sing one song from Tangled.

2:01:10Rob Mahoney:Do it. That's Zachary Levi.

2:01:14Joanna Robinson:Deeply unproblematic Zachary Levi.

2:01:15Rob Mahoney:Yeah, great guy. He wasn't back then. I don't think I can.

2:01:18Sean Fennessey:He was cool.

2:01:18Rob Mahoney:He was like, yeah, we didn't know yet. He was Chuck.

2:01:20Sean Fennessey:Yeah, it was Chuck. We didn't know yet. What's... Can someone hum a tune from it so I can pick it up? I've only seen it the one time.

2:01:28Rob Mahoney:Took my niece and her friends to see it. So I did. That's beautiful. Not a movie any of us were inclined to pick, so nobody can help you here, I guess. Tough. I feel good about it.

2:01:35Mallory Rubin:It's a cute little movie though. There's a little like iguana. I tend to do entangled songs in a different key than the original. It's not fucking with Frozen. It's for the hard part of reimagining. She fights with her hair. That's pretty cool.

2:01:45Sean Fennessey:Harry Potter? What are you so worried about? No, I'm going to pick the animated movie that I thought you were going to pick in Blockbuster. How to Train Your Dragon, a stone cold classic. I'm not a big fan of that movie.

2:01:54Rob Mahoney:What? Yeah. Oh my God. That movie's amazing. We just taking turns kicking each other in the nuts now. That movie's phenomenal.

2:02:02Joanna Robinson:Wait, how to Train Your Dragon is excellent. Turn and sour. Was it when you went to the CIA? I think that's when it happened.

2:02:08Sean Fennessey:That's when you soured. How to Train Your Dragon is just genuinely like a wonderful film. I have a little toothless plush that I love. Hiccup is an icon. The story about cinema and of the hero's journey, I would say. You know, the idea that you think you have to live life a certain way and fit a certain archetype and form and be big and strong, and then know you can form your own bond. And they did that with each other and they saved their community. You can be a nerd and create Facebook, and it's great. There is a little bit of a theme in my list, I will say. I just, I love, I genuinely love How to Train Your Dragon.

2:02:43So that's my pick in Blockbuster. And then on the turn here, I have two contenders here that I like a lot that are available for Oscar nominee. I'm going to take Winterspoon. Oh, yeah. A movie I love, really love. And not only was that a big Oscar movie and an excellent film that year, but it kind of like announced J-Law as an Oscar force for a stretch of time. That movie is really upsetting, really harrowing, full of wonderful performances and such an utterly specific sense of place and family strife. I love it. It's a wonderful film.

2:03:21Mallory Rubin:Deborah Granik, what happened? Was it like there's extra, whatever happened with her film? She made a follow-up film with Ben Foster about a man living in the wild with his daughter.

2:03:31Sean Fennessey:Oh, yeah. That is amazing. I'm trying to remember the name of it. It came out in 2018. Leave No Trace. That's right. Which is a great, great film. But she hasn't made a feature in a long time. Okay. Very, very good movie. John Hawks is unreal in that movie.

2:03:44Rob Mahoney:He is. Winter's Bone was kind of a deal. It became a deal. Yeah. That's a great film. Right there at the end.

2:03:48Sean Fennessey:It was a big announcement. I mean, she had only really done the sitcom she was on. The Southern Comedian. who's, she played the daughter. The Bill Ingvall show. Bill Ingvall, thank you.

2:03:58Rob Mahoney:Then she pulls out the red dress and that was it.

2:04:00Joanna Robinson:Yeah.

2:04:01Rob Mahoney:Remember that joint? I remember, yeah, I sure do. I remember it. Yep, then she's there. Yep. Then she's everywhere.

2:04:06Joanna Robinson:Mm-hmm.

2:04:06Rob Mahoney:Mm-hmm.

2:04:07Joanna Robinson:And then she's not. She's not.

2:04:09Sean Fennessey:Okay, I've got franchise film, foreign language animated, and wild card left to go. Hmm. Okay.

2:04:23I'm going to take in foreign language animated.

2:04:32Sean Fennessey:There's so many good ones here. Yeah, there are. There really are. I'll take Bong Joon-ho's mother. God damn it. Good one. I mean, that was never going to come back to me. Which is a great thriller about what a mother will do for her son. and like a movie that I did not think was very funny the first time I saw it because I don't I didn't know as much about Bong's films when I first saw it and now having seen his entire body work I think it's very very funny it was an incredible moment of exultation at the end of this movie on a bus ride it was like one of the best things you'll ever see and this is a great one so yeah really good pick very good great movie so I have franchise blockbuster and wild card left and franchise and blockbuster the good stuff got taken away early so there's there are a couple moves but i have to figure out whether i want to be what kind what kind of cute do i want to be you know but i mean both at this point you have to be cute we're not picking from the the top of the heap but i don't know if i want to really go for it or weather.

2:05:43All right. So Blockbuster. Let's let's talk about Blockbuster. Here's what's left. Alice in Wonderland. Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part One. Despicable Me. Shrek Forever After. The Karate Kid. Clash of the Titans. Grown Ups. Little Fockers. Megamind. The King's Beach and The Last Airbender. Yeah. Amanda, you love Minions. Well, sure. But so here is the question. And I understand that starts the Minions, Despicable Me, but it's where do I take it? You know, and what's left over for me? Yeah. Franchise or Blockbuster. That's not the question. The question is, what is the other one? Now, I have like a little bit of a franchise, not cheap, but creativity in my back pocket.

2:06:28But then you've got Rob. Yeah, that's true. I will take Sex and the City, too. I will do. Even I'm not going to take that one, though I do think I saw it in theaters. Definitely. Let's see. You know what? I'm going to do it. I'll do it. I'll do Despicable Me and Walkbuster. I love the Minions. I think they're genuinely really funny. And we've had a lot of discussion about what comedy is and is not on this podcast. But the Minions just shouting out Dua Lipa lyrics while bopping around and doing physical comedy is, to me, Amanda Dobbins funny. And that's what this is about.

2:07:03Mallory Rubin:The Minions are not characters. They're not characters that I thought would still be in my life now. Yeah. Even with the 101 freeway in Los Angeles. They're on the 101 and I feel like I work with the Tulsi Gabbard of the Minions. The Minionette. Yes. Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi Gabbard. I think they show great creativity and comedic ingenuity. So that's where I am. Despicable, the rest of it grew, whatever, you know? But I think,

2:07:33Sean Fennessey:Minions are barely in Despicable Me. Well, it's where they start. That's true. So, shout out Minions. There's a lot of Gru. I know. What do we get this year? And his scarf.

2:07:42Joanna Robinson:And Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah. What a year for cinema.

2:07:47Sean Fennessey:Okay. Who's next? Rob Mahoney. I will take Black Swan and Oscar.

2:07:54Joanna Robinson:All right. That's fine. You didn't take it? I didn't take it. Was not selected as of yet. What's your relationship to ballet? Not profound. Don't Chalamet yourself here. Be careful. No, I respect the medium. I just see myself. Never took classes. Never took classes. Okay. Not opposed to it. Maybe that's another act for me. Do it for content. Put it on the gram. I don't think I'm going to be doing that.

2:08:15Mallory Rubin:He's too busy broadcasting Luca Guadagnino's. Oh, daddy. That's what I'm about. Honestly, I just see myself in Natalie Portman's journey in this movie. I just think our lives parallel a lot.

2:08:26Joanna Robinson:Actually, I see that. Yeah? Yeah?

2:08:29Sean Fennessey:I see this draft parallel in that movie the way that you are doubling Amanda in eerie and unsettling ways. Okay. Say Mila Kunis' name. What a pod for her. This movie, which did not go drafted when we did the 2010 draft six years ago, when it came out, I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I thought it was brilliant. I was very, very pro-Aronofsky. I've not seen it since it came out, and I never think about it. I don't know whether it is. Oh, I think about it a lot. Oh, yeah. Do you really?

2:09:00Joanna Robinson:We have anxiety. You have anxiety. I do. You don't think about this in terms of... Not enough, apparently.

2:09:04Rob Mahoney:No. I don't know why. I think when I first saw it, I realized it would be like a one or two watcher. Yeah. Oh, it's not pleasant. It's unsettling. A lot of his films are like that.

2:09:12Joanna Robinson:No, I'm not really watching it, but I think about it a lot. It lingers.

2:09:17Sean Fennessey:Swan Lake is very present in my household with my daughter. In fact, we bought a Swan Lake play-along book this weekend, but it never even crossed my mind.

2:09:25Rob Mahoney:Natalie ended up marrying that guy, right? She married... No. I think you're thinking of J-Law. No, I feel like she was married to a ballet guy. She was. Benjamin Millipier, yeah, they met on this. He was the choreographer. He was the choreographer. He was the choreographer, yeah. I went to something that they had. Did he scam her? He was there. No, some other things happened. Allegations. Yeah. Untoward acts. And I think she's now having a baby with somebody else. Because they divorced.

2:09:50Sean Fennessey:Me. You did draft Tron Legacy or you didn't?

2:09:53Rob Mahoney:I did. and now it's your turn again Oscar nomination do I have that category left mmhmm you do yes yes yes incredible movie that's a good one love it love it I love it I love it now you can't say I liked it anymore so you gotta love it loved it I'm only going with movies obviously they're movies but some of these movies I obviously didn't see them

2:10:18Sean Fennessey:you saw those in theaters

2:10:19Rob Mahoney:I did yeah I did like once the shit started to like pop and like once again in the Arclight if I'd have been to Baton Rouge I wouldn't be able to see something are you Banksy? what do you mean? no I'm not Banksy

2:10:29Joanna Robinson:you think Van would not take credit for every single thing I actually kind of think he would

2:10:33Rob Mahoney:or like that he would hide behind it it would never reveal it to anybody if I was Banksy there are other secrets about me you guys don't know that's what I'm saying that I've done but no no one's listening we're in the third hour that movie ended up being like a big deal you had to go see it and I went and saw it and I was blown away I didn't really know as much about the entire Banksy thing but I was really blown away What's Banksy's status right now? Like, what's going on?

2:10:56Sean Fennessey:He's in the Department of Defense.

2:10:59Mallory Rubin:I believe he was unmasked. Yeah, revealed. Yeah. And was maybe facing some criminal charges. Oh, well. Banksy, for what? Painting on the walls. Oh. Vandalism. Defacing.

2:11:13Sean Fennessey:Public property. That's good. That's good.

2:11:14Mallory Rubin:We can live with that. Do you feel he should be in prison, Chris? Do you feel he should be in prison, Chris? So he can read this? I'm like almost distracted by Amanda's browsing because she doesn't have like any ad blockers on. So it's just like crazy fucking pop-ups. I asked you to stop fucking looking at Mike. Let me use the internet piece. I said goodbye to the cookies. And now I've learned that Banksy's name is Robin Gunningham, but we've apparently known this as far back as 2008 if you read the mail on Sunday. I'm reading CNN.com, okay? Sierra, you have a pic. In foreign film, I'm going to take on Sunday.

2:11:51so I'd like to talk about this oh no I googled it again and it is eligible I'm sorry I retract I retract my interruption Denny Villeneuve's

2:12:00Mallory Rubin:2010 film about poison inheritance and it's a theme that I think runs through a lot of his films and can even be seen in Dune and this one has got one of the most remarkable unsettling chilling endings of any movie you will ever see

2:12:15Joanna Robinson:watched it last night for the first time had a great time did you really amazing movie oh it's a it's a it's a it hurts really i saw this here in theaters as part of bleak week when the reveal happens that you're talking about it is like the oxygen got sucked out of the room yeah and it never comes back and i don't call your mom changes your relationship to swimming pools

2:12:32Sean Fennessey:for a while certainly does i did uh a q a with ari aster after a screening of hereditary at bleak week and the film that was happening immediately after that was that screening of on sunday that you're talking about and i met a guy in between screenings and he was like i'm not leaving i'm staying for On Sande and I was like that's quite a day sir for right into On Sande oh my god that's a tough one great pick very good movie another movie that's kind of a one and done for me I don't revisit that one did you consider taking an animated film no

2:13:01Mallory Rubin:given your passion for the form I didn't I don't think I had one even on the long list here

2:13:05Sean Fennessey:so CR you got another pick no it's Joe Joe excuse me Joe you got two picks

2:13:09Joanna Robinson:in foreign language slash animated I will be taking Beautiful starring Javier Bardem our guy our guy Kate Pierce Summer uh I love this movie this is a it's a really tough watch but this is like this is like something he does pretty soon after his Oscar win and I think it's like a really interesting post Oscar win choice uh in Aritu um that's my choice for foreign language film okay and then in Oscar nominee I will take inside job documentary about the financial crisis.

2:13:52Mallory Rubin:Great movie. Really good pick.

2:13:53Joanna Robinson:That's a good pick. Don't sound so surprised. That's not our method. It's like, inside job. You're trapped in it. Yes.

2:14:04Sean Fennessey:That's right. Charles Ferguson. This is also, we've hit a stretch of deeply depressing films in consecutive order here on Sunday into beautiful, into inside job is yeah that's a dark that's a dark core yeah um the air has kind of gone out of the room inside job feels like a billion years ago in documentary where i was like this film could make change if people watch this they would realize that the world yeah it's like social network inside job we're good it was really a time when we were like wow uh we're gonna fix

2:14:33Joanna Robinson:global warming we're gonna fix like fix all of it and guess what we didn't no we didn't do that

2:14:39Sean Fennessey:Whose fault? Was that our fault? Did we blow it? I'm going to blame the boomers. Not our fault. They didn't get out of the way. You take any responsibility?

2:14:47Rob Mahoney:For what? For the state of the world? A little bit.

2:14:52Sean Fennessey:It's kind of getting to that time. Yeah. Where like, I could have done something. Yeah. I could have ran for city council. I chose TMZ. I chose not to. You should. Do you think you'd be elected? I think it's too late. White male. What's your platform? Brown hair. Do you think that... Do you want a hinge profile? what's happening. That's what America is looking for, unfortunately, in this dark time. Would we be in the same

2:15:14Mallory Rubin:city council seat if we ran against each other?

2:15:17Rob Mahoney:I don't think we share. Now, I'll say this. This is a question. The question is if you two run. On the same ticket or against each other? Against each other. Fuck that same ticket shit. Chris would win, obviously. Chris wins? Yeah. Chris, God bless you. Chris wins for sure if you guys run against each other. What if you have to run against Rob? I'm losing. Rob is tall. You already did who's the face of the ringer. Who was it? Who won? It was him. Then Mallory's the answer. She's our councilwoman now. Public office is not for me. Okay, then Chris is our councilman now. Chris would win the vote.

2:15:51Yeah, I have some skeletons though. What's your platform? Do you want to workshop it right here in real time? What are your policies?

2:15:57Sean Fennessey:The thing is, is nobody knows more about your skeletons than I do. Who would you invite to be in your council? And we know that you would do it. Would you mudsling against CR? Would you mudsling against them? Win at all costs. So you wouldn't, I would never betray Chris.

2:16:09Joanna Robinson:Mr. 6 out of 10 first pick would definitely sling back. I would never betray Chris.

2:16:13Sean Fennessey:The rest of you guys can fuck off the top. But I would never betray Chris.

2:16:17Mallory Rubin:My platform would be let's just have the World Cup every day forever. I mean, it's not bad. That would make everything better, honestly.

2:16:23Rob Mahoney:I don't think city council can really do that. I missed the World Cup after seeing these videos. I know.

2:16:31Joanna Robinson:Would that fire be out if you were in charge? Yeah. Okay.

2:16:34Mallory Rubin:For sure. I would put it out.

2:16:35Rob Mahoney:Would have never started.

2:16:36Joanna Robinson:Yeah.

2:16:37Mallory Rubin:Give it a pick. Is it me or did you? Joanna took two films. I will take an original. Where did it go? I had it and I was like, great idea, Chris.

2:16:52Mallory Rubin:Sorry. It's fine. I'm just scrolling lists of movies. An original, I'm taking Brooklyn's Finest. The Antoine Fuqua movie. It's original. Uh-huh. That was more. Richard Gere, Ethan Hawke. Wesley Snipes. What do you think I'm about to say? that it's awesome. I liked it. You know, it's really good. I like it. Guys in different cities doing things? No lie. Yeah. One of Ethan Hawke's best. Yeah. Whoa. Yeah. I believe he's married to Lily Taylor in this film. Yeah. What else happens? He's corrupt. Richard Gere is being corrupted. Cheadle, Wesley Snipes, undercover situation there. It's just a really solid six out of 10 comedy.

2:17:39Joanna Robinson:Success Well that's where you should Some movie that You thought You could tell

2:17:43Mallory Rubin:That they thought It was going to be They thought it was Going to be training day And it turned out It wasn't But it was still Ethan was cooking Great job Thanks Rob what category Did you take Oh there Oh Franchise film Was MacGruber Yeah it has a Spinoff TV series Yeah Or streaming series I tried to take Unstoppable And apparently It happened once The movie wouldn't exist

2:18:06Sean Fennessey:Without the incident okay

2:18:09Mallory Rubin:I think they would have happened upon that plotline eventually even if it hadn't well I'm gonna have been on in 2010 okay Rob is it me it's Van it's Van

2:18:20Sean Fennessey:Van oh Wild Card

2:18:22Rob Mahoney:yeah Wild Card time okay I'm like scared Due Date yes I love Due Date I like Due Date Due Date's great which one is I mean I remember what's Due Date again

2:18:34Mallory Rubin:it's Robert Downey Jr. and Zach Galifianakis and it's like oh right yeah and the dog

2:18:41Rob Mahoney:what if Zach Galifianakis was doing the same thing in another movie you like but Downey's here

2:18:46Joanna Robinson:it's Iron Man it's Iron Man and Galifianakis together hijinks

2:18:50Mallory Rubin:I went and saw isn't like Brian in this isn't he in this in due date yes he is Western Union employee Lonnie yeah and he's like I got reservations at Chili's later

2:19:03Rob Mahoney:it's fun funny I liked it very fun that's it due date 49 movies it's almost like there were 49 movies for us to draft I don't think I remember this one did I not see this hey man that bitch came and went okay I think it made some money no it did make some money it was a little disappointing

2:19:21Sean Fennessey:because Downey was like I'm back Iron Man 2 and here's what I'm gonna do with it I'm gonna do due date and the judge and we were like this is what you're gonna do with this

2:19:29Rob Mahoney:well the judge you could tell he thought

2:19:31Joanna Robinson:he wanted that Oscar I'm about to get on stage man

2:19:33Rob Mahoney:Robert Duvall dies in this bitch you could tell that he thought he was good. And then some of the other choices, you know, Sherlock Holmes. The first one is serviceable. The second one was bad.

2:19:43Sean Fennessey:Game of Shadows. Game of Shadows. Game of Shadows. Shadows.

2:19:46Mallory Rubin:Shadows.

2:19:47Sean Fennessey:Now, Sean Connery. I'm not going to do Sean Connery. If he were, if he were Sherlock Holmes in that film, I would have enjoyed that. If he had been

2:19:53Mallory Rubin:Zach Galifianakis in Due Date, do you think that would have been

2:19:55Joanna Robinson:a better movie? Sean Connery could see Chris Ryan in a...

2:20:00Rob Mahoney:Did you see the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Of course I did. Of course. Come on.

2:20:03Sean Fennessey:You guys like it? It was not released in 2010. I took it. I liked it. You liked it. I'm starting to lose track of who's drafting. I think I took an app during that one.

2:20:09Joanna Robinson:Well, it's because you're like a real Dorian Gray guy. And now it's LXG. You've always been a real Dorian Gray guy. A real Dorian Gray guy. A real Dorian Gray guy. Actually, that movie was the start of it.

2:20:15Sean Fennessey:It is Rob's turn to draft. In comedy, I will be selecting another year. I'm having a personal Mike Lee summer. This has been a huge blind spot for me for a long time. I'm starting to rectify it. I'm just all out here drinking tea and having overdue emotional conversations. This is a good one. Really good movie. honestly I was shocked at how much it was like in Fargo if it was just like March and her husband having people over for dinner all the time if that was the whole plot of the movie fucking loved it

2:20:41Mallory Rubin:do you think he's aura farming right now do you think he's like like look me up on Letterboxd I'm Rob can't a guy just pick movies he likes while these guys pick for food because he's got nothing to lose here

2:20:50Sean Fennessey:you know he can just taste flex which you know we could all taste flex he did also pick MacGruber true but even MacGruber is considered like

2:20:58Mallory Rubin:a cult favorite you know alright

2:21:01Sean Fennessey:I think there's nothing wrong with it. I think you're picking great movies. It's like you're shaming me for picking a good movie. You're picking great films. There's nothing wrong with it. I think people who listen to this think if I were on here, I too would taste Flex, but nobody cares about that. Wow.

2:21:15Mallory Rubin:That's not... Also, when the fucking lights are on, you know, and Mal's interrupting me. Someone could have said

2:21:22Joanna Robinson:Easy A is based on the Scarlet Letter when it's not.

2:21:25Sean Fennessey:That's right. You have to take Brooklyn's finest. You gotta pick Train movies. Mike Lee but go fuck yourself I have to take Brooklyn's finest okay Amanda so I have franchise and wild card left and in franchise I thought it was going to be cute but then I guess I thought you took the despicable that was in blockbuster oh sorry okay yep though it turns out that I could have just flipped them but I didn't realize that Harry Potter is still on the board so I guess I'll do that it's fine Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part one part one that's right which I've seen. Let's talk about the decision to split them up.

2:22:03Sean Fennessey:Good? I mean, essential, honestly. I think for, yeah, frankly, it probably should have happened sooner. I'm a fan of part one. That's one of the better movies, even though it was not one of the better reviewed movies. Yeah. I remember liking both of the final two chapters. I mean, it's like, it's emotional and because they - Some of the most heart-wrenching moments are in that. Yes, exactly. And because they split it up, like all of the good stuff is in part one and then part two, it's a little bit of like Wicked, Wicked 2 situation. Yeah. I mean, I get it. You choose him.

2:22:33Mallory Rubin:Is that from Wicked? How would Chris respond to having a Horcrux locket on him? What do you think? Based on what you've seen today? So Harry Potter, anything? I've seen the Alfonso Cuarón one. Yeah, that's good. It was not released in 2010. One day I was at a bar and it was on unmute, but I don't know which movie it was. What happened in it? What happened? They got to school. It was like when they first got school. Oh, okay. So that's probably the first one. So they were little? Yeah.

2:23:05Joanna Robinson:Okay. Is saying I've only seen the Cuaron one aura farming? Yes. Definitely.

2:23:10Mallory Rubin:I didn't say I don't aura farm. I was saying. It's a real, it takes one to know one situation. It's also strange now in retrospect that I was at a bar that was playing the first Harry Potter. Why? Yeah. What the fuck? Was it like Christmas? At least for the first four movies, they go. That's probably why. Oh, because. If it was Christmas. It was probably just like they put on a messy family and they're like...

2:23:30Rob Mahoney:What happens to Harry at the end? Of Harry Potter? You don't know? No, what happens to him? He becomes a cop. Honestly, to me, the motherfucker already was a cop.

2:23:39Joanna Robinson:He does become an horror. He does become an horror. He's officially a cop with a badge.

2:23:42Rob Mahoney:What happens to him? Seriously, though. He becomes a cop. That's not a joke. Yeah. Harry Potter becomes a police officer? He becomes an horror, which is a cop. A wizard cop. Like, I'll do all of this shit. But that's in part two. In part one, he just has to face his demons. and then he shows up in Brooklyn's finest yeah he really becomes a copper room he becomes an orb this is not a bit yes not a bit all of that shit for some copaganda man that's nuts

2:24:06Sean Fennessey:Harry Potter

2:24:07Rob Mahoney:I didn't know that consider the source he didn't die well he sacrifices himself I'll send you a chapter it's called The Forest again I'll be honest that part of the mythology is a little rickety he's Jesus Cop he's Jesus Cop goes to King's Cross yeah Jesus Cop we have to explain Horcrux to you and it's not there's no time one character Jesus and police that part doesn't land there's another chapter involving another character that really does land in part two and that should have been the end of it but no one I think so I mean is that the sounds messy yeah I mean that's like the real conclusion of it but no one asked me for edits anyway Andy bought the fix I said he's got it sewn up he's got it

2:24:51Joanna Robinson:you think Andy's changing the ending

2:24:54Rob Mahoney:Andy's gonna be like excuse me doesn't work alright

2:25:00Sean Fennessey:I'm up I was gonna do Step Up 3D but you still can you have one more pick you have a wild card pick coming up so I saw it in theaters like 6 out of 10 what'd you say it's like you know I like it and I would I would prefer that John M. Chu kept making Step Up movies to whatever he was doing Step Up 3D and Step Up to the Streets yes both fine films Step Up to the Streets was great and I also enjoyed Step Up Revolution but it's just why we had those versions of In the Heights on Revolution for me. Step up to the streets saw in theaters with like 15 Grandland employees and we were like this is the same.

2:25:31Rob Mahoney:The original step up was legitimately one of those moments where I was like it was almost like the cutting edge to where I was like yeah I'm gonna be fucking with this movie forever. Yeah. Of course. I liked it. One, two, excellent. Three, 3D. Do you watch The Cutting Edge with your mom? Yeah. Topic. Then you gotta do Morning Glory. Yeah. I don't know. We've been doing Harrison Ford Sundays. Well, okay. Wonderful. So there you go. He's in Morning Glory. Did we make that clear? Yeah, that's what they say. So we'll do it next Sunday. We'll do Harrison Ford on Sunday. Who's picking it? Did you guys do Captain America's Brave New World yet?

2:26:08Rob Mahoney:Not yet. Harrison Ford Sundays? No. We did Patriot Games, A Clear Present Danger.

2:26:14Joanna Robinson:Oh, Jack Ryan Sundays. Yeah. Clear Present Danger rules.

2:26:17Rob Mahoney:This past Sunday, Air Force One. Nice. Okay. Get off my plane. So some real... So you did geopolitical Harrison Ford? okay well you do frantic well I said that next Sunday was gonna be witness and then and then I said that next Sunday was gonna be witness but I think it's gonna be more than glory now we've been doing Harrison what Hanover Street witness one of the best movies ever made frantic is worth watching witness frantic working girls in the late 80s remember when you and I watched frantic for the first time and we're just texting screenshots back and forth to each other I mean he snorts cocaine in a bathroom stall in that movie he sure does if you're not gonna text your friends about that completely naked Why have a phone?

2:26:55Why watch movies? I put Blade Runner on. Mm-hmm.

2:27:00Rob Mahoney:15 minutes, my mom was knocked the fuck out.

2:27:05Joanna Robinson:Knocked out by like how great it is.

2:27:07Rob Mahoney:Maybe she needed the voiceover. Yeah, she was fucking done.

2:27:10Joanna Robinson:She might need a theatrical.

2:27:12Rob Mahoney:She was like, I can't do this one, son. That's quite sad.

2:27:15Sean Fennessey:I have a pick. I can't believe this happened. I didn't even put this down on my board, but I realized for franchise film, I'm taking Insidious, which is the first installment in a long running horror series that continues on this year Insidious colon Into the Further directed by James Wan huge breakout hit really solid horror movie did it on the rewatchable some years ago our homies Patrick Wilson and Rose Byrne friends of the pod never met either one of them love their work incredible stuff that they are doing is Patrick Wilson summary? yeah second Patrick Wilson film

2:27:50Mallory Rubin:here's the thing it's always Patrick Wilson summary you can tell me that Patrick Wilson's net worth was like$800 million. I was going to say, didn't he just get so much money now? I think he had points on this. From Conjuring and everything. I mean, I'm happy for him.

2:28:00Sean Fennessey:He did direct the most recent installment of the Insidious franchise. These movies are good. The demon appearing behind, is it behind Rose Byrne? When they're having the conversation at the table? Yeah. That's real shit.

2:28:12Rob Mahoney:Why are they in every movie? I don't know. Who are they in the movies? I've never seen any of these. Who are they? I watched The Devil. They're Josh and Renee Lambert. Who are they in the movies? like why are they in everyone are they like ghostbusters who are they

2:28:23Sean Fennessey:Patrick Wilson and Rose like they're a married couple who are being haunted by this demon oh and then the demon comes from the conjuring which is the conjuring

2:28:33Rob Mahoney:yes they are demon hunters where he and me of Vera Farmiga Vera Farmiga are in that one so that's a different one yeah and then they also but they go around they're ghostbusters in that one like basically does Patrick Wilson do any theater anymore they're paranormal investigators

2:28:45Sean Fennessey:I'm sure she's like a medium but like have you heard about it

2:28:48Rob Mahoney:but Insidious is not connected to that Patrick Wilson same director

2:28:50Sean Fennessey:James Vaughn is the director and producer of both of the film scenes.

2:28:54Rob Mahoney:Oh, yeah. This is the one where, okay, so they're in the house, and they're looking around. There's ghosts everywhere. Okay, yeah, yeah. I've seen clips. Well, yeah. No, I mean, he has a story and career, but he doesn't use that magical voice anymore. I think it's because of his wife that he was in the third row, actually. What are you talking about? Oh. She was nominated for the film. Okay, Patrick Wilson. He doesn't do any more theater, even though he has all the money in the world. He's kind of the man when you think about it, though. That's your pick. I don't have to think about it that hard.

2:29:19It's true. How did you describe his brand? He's a producer on The Lost Boys, I'm learning.

2:29:23Sean Fennessey:Speaking of Jay Kelly, incredible five minute flex. Unbelievable. And he's so good. And the casting is so delightful. He's not the man in that you would think about it.

2:29:33Rob Mahoney:But when you think about it, he's the man. Came up an hour ago. According to Playbill.com, the last time he was on Broadway was in The Normal Heart in 2010. Oh, I love The Normal Heart. I saw it. It was great. But that's 16 years ago. I'm glad we brought it over remember that Gap commercial with Claire Danes less stage I think it's not telling truthful stories it's really great and then there's it's great stuff they should re-release those khakis equally charming hard candy

2:30:01Sean Fennessey:remember when he's in girls sure do great episode that was awesome memorable episode if you want to just list like Patrick Wilson being hot in movies remember when he's in the theater in the opera sure remember when he was in Little Children yes I do that was tough I remember that I'm ready we were just talking about how we feel. Forever hold your peace.

2:30:19Mallory Rubin:You just gotta drive. You gotta jump in. Yeah, just go. All right, I'm ready to make my final two picks. My remaining two categories are foreign language slash animated and wild card. I'm excited by both the movies I get to pick. I will be taking a foreign language movie now in that category. I thought Chris was gonna take this as high as possibly the second round. No joke. I will be taking a profit. You love that movie. I thought you were gonna take that. I'm really surprised that it fell this far. Admittedly, I don't even know This is a loaded foreign language year, though. Well, it's the...

2:30:47It was on Sean's letterbox and the U.S. release was can 2009. Yeah, 2009 into 2010. For the record, animated

2:30:57Sean Fennessey:foreign language was also a category that we did in the previous 2010 draft and you selected it in that category. Yeah, you love that movie. I'm honestly shocked that you didn't pick it. It's changing. More of a Brooklyn's Finest guy. I mean, this is a prison mob like under my wing crime movie. It's amazing. The fact that Kristen Tiggins is astonishing, but yeah, wonderful performance. Great movie. So that's my foreign language animated pick. And then in Wild Card, I'm going to take, I'm like wondering if maybe people don't like this movie as much as I do. I'm about to find out, I guess. I'm like astonished it's still available.

2:31:29Well, I had it. I'll just tell you guys, I had this seventh overall on my board. This was the movie I referenced earlier that I was almost going to take when I ended up taking Winter's Bone. Maybe people don't like this movie. I love it. The kids are all right. Yeah. I love that movie. It's a great Ruffalo performance. It's a great Julianne Moore performance. Hutcherson Hive always, obviously. So similar to Black Swan for me when it came out. Loved it, had a great time. I thought you meant thematically. I haven't seen it again. I haven't thought about it. Really? Oh, I've revisited that a couple times.

2:31:54Yeah. But I like - Delightful watch. I like complicated movie stories. Yes.

2:31:59Rob Mahoney:You like complicated movie stories. I do. Great. I am surprised that amongst this group - That it lasted as long as it did. I love that. What's that supposed to mean?

2:32:09Joanna Robinson:We're very white.

2:32:10Rob Mahoney:Very white. That movie is very white. Who's white? I took Brooklyn's finest, so. But you know, C.R. You know what the vibe is. That's a wrap on my picks. Into the seventh round here. Kind of what? C.R. is like kind of a little bit. Honorary? I mean, I wouldn't go as far as to say honorary. What word would you use? I don't give out cookout invitations. It's fine. But, you know, me and him have had conversations about Gucci Mane.

2:32:38Mallory Rubin:I texted him on Juneteenth, and then I felt immediately bad about it. I was like, it's not my place. Did you say happy Juneteenth? He didn't text me.

2:32:45Rob Mahoney:Here's the thing. He did something worse. Did you say you're welcome for me to stay off work? Wait, wait, wait. He did something worse. He texted me on Juneteenth, but didn't refer to it.

2:32:55Sean Fennessey:Yeah.

2:32:55Mallory Rubin:No, in fact, it was an Instagram of a dude listening to a 2009 rap mixtape. Right. When they used to have, like, it's Mr. Thanksgiving, DJ Drama.

2:33:08Sean Fennessey:Damn, son. Damn. Where'd you find this? Where'd you find it? Yeah, I know. I know. You know that I know. You know that I know. Okay. The one who doesn't know is Bill. We gotta feed these streets, son.

2:33:27Sean Fennessey:We should get you doing drops on Mixtape. I was lucky. We should get you to do drops on them.

2:33:32Rob Mahoney:This is... We gotta add this one to the watchable.

2:33:35Mallory Rubin:But I would want to do it on Phoebe Proctor's song. Damn, son. Where'd you get this trauma? and it's just like her singing. Oh my God. Oh my God.

2:33:51Sean Fennessey:Damn, Phoebe.

2:33:57Mallory Rubin:Try not to know when you get home. God. Where'd you get that skeleton shirt?

2:34:04Joanna Robinson:I was gonna say skeleton shirt. Damn, Phoebe. Why'd you do that at Paul Meskel? Oh. Oh, man.

2:34:11Sean Fennessey:Okay. It's me, right? Yep. I got a wild card. Some good movies left. Some real good movies left. I'm going to take one of them. Don't worry. I'll take the last one. Which one will it be? What's ever remaining? So does everyone just have a wild card left? I'm taking this after you're brothers, Daddy Long Legs. Oh, that's good. That's nice. Which is an amazing movie. One of their first movies. Very autobiographical portrait of a dad who do not have it together. Trying to take care of two boys. because Ronald Bronstein, their co-writer and editor on a lot of their movies, is the star of the movie.

2:34:47Sean Fennessey:And so it's mostly like very run-and-gun production. There's a great criterion edition in the movie if you haven't seen it. And is kind of source code, I would say, for a lot of what they have done over the last 10 or 15 years. A real like following situation. Yeah, exactly. This was one that like if I hadn't gotten to take Blue Valentine in original, I would have tried to take this late in original and seen if you would have allowed it because it is so autobiographical for them. I have it listed in original, yeah. I know. It's the same thing where it's like contemporarily set. It's inspired by.

2:35:17Sean Fennessey:Yeah. But yeah, I would encourage people to seek out interviews with the Safdies or they talk about their dad because it's quite interesting.

2:35:27Jo just swallowing her words every time we talk about what is an original and what is not. It's amazing.

2:35:32Sean Fennessey:You feel that you were wounded by the EZA decision. Yes. And you're sucking your teeth.

2:35:41Joanna Robinson:I think I'm right. Okay. That's all.

2:35:44Sean Fennessey:This is a real R2-D2 should be allowed. The Skywalker family. I really do support you in all of your efforts, including EZA, which is a wonderful film. But that seems pretty clear to me. But we love you, and you're welcome back on the big picture anytime.

2:35:59Joanna Robinson:Oh, you're welcome, and I feel loved and respected. Okay. We're also right. We're also right.

2:36:06Sean Fennessey:Okay. I think it's me? Amanda's up. Okay, in Wild Card, listen, like Remember Me is shining there for me and that is one of the most incredible film-going experiences I've ever had, but I'm not gonna disrespect...

2:36:20Joanna Robinson:Pierce Brosnan that way. You know, everything that happened on that day by picking Remember Me. So I'm gonna do Please Give, the Nicole Hollisenter movie, starring Catherine Keener with just the most enviable wardrobe of all time, but also Rebecca Hall. I got two Rebecca Hall movies. I feel good about that. That's great. That was wonderful. Amanda Peet, Oliver Platt. And, you know, it is firmly in the, you know, rich white people with small problems genre, but I couldn't have somewhere, so I have this instead. Damn, son. Where'd you get those problems?

2:37:13and I love Nicole Hollisenter's work and I just the ways in which everything is they're more spoken than Sophia Coppell movies they're more word focused which I appreciate and but still equally observed with the right amount of hating everybody else and also hating yourself and also hoping that things will be okay and having perfect furniture so thank you Nicole Holofcenter

2:37:41Sean Fennessey:Rob you can't steal that from Amanda now what's next I would never because I will be selecting the Donnie Yen classic Ip Man in Wildcard fucking amazing movie I've never seen a dude get punched so many times on the way to the ground as in this movie

2:37:56Mallory Rubin:I've got regrets Ip Man's there Ip Man's really good it's there yeah he left some stuff on the board what's your profit five years ago apparently so yeah

2:38:05Sean Fennessey:it was six years ago yeah I'm one year older than you think interestingly there's a movie that you three all many times on the prior version of this draft like I can't believe we didn't pick this and none of you have taken it interesting reveal what it is at the end because Crystal has a pick so he can take it I'm on tender I guarantee you

2:38:23Mallory Rubin:that I'm not going to I'm not picking it

2:38:25Joanna Robinson:is it burlesque yes it is is it a Serbian film

2:38:33Rob Mahoney:Van

2:38:33Sean Fennessey:Van is up

2:38:34Rob Mahoney:I'm trying to see if I can this movie had to be released in the United States, right?

2:38:39Sean Fennessey:Foreign Language Animated is your last category.

2:38:41Rob Mahoney:Yeah, so I couldn't take the Foreign Language film I wanted to take. Which was what? Uncle Boon Me? No, it was 13 Assassins. Quality film. Yeah, not eligible. Quality film, I believe it's 2011.

2:38:52Sean Fennessey:Takashi Miike.

2:38:54Rob Mahoney:So that means I'm taking Mega Mind.

2:39:02Mallory Rubin:Incredible moment.

2:39:03Rob Mahoney:It is so... because I can't.

2:39:05Mallory Rubin:Oh, my God. It's an animated film. Oh, my God. Isn't he in somebody else's universe? Megamind is, yeah. What's he a part of? I can't remember. What franchise?

2:39:15Rob Mahoney:I only saw Megamind the one time. But I liked it when I saw it. Part of his mom?

2:39:19Mallory Rubin:Even for you, that was a really weak one. I liked it. I liked it when I saw it.

2:39:23Rob Mahoney:I only saw Megamind the one time. But I got 13 assassins. I'm looking at it to make sure. It's 2010.

2:39:32Sean Fennessey:Insanely star-studded cast. in Megamind.

2:39:35Rob Mahoney:Yeah, like Will Ferrell. Tina Fey. Tina Fey. Who else is in it? Ben Stiller. Ben Stiller, yeah. Jonah Hill. Bradley Pitt. Brad Pitt, yeah. That's right. Justin Theroux himself, the writer of Iron Man 2. Oh, something else about it. Who did the music in Megamind?

2:39:53Mallory Rubin:I remember this.

2:39:54Rob Mahoney:Was it Philip Glass? Who was it?

2:39:55Mallory Rubin:It's Hans Zimmer. Hans Zimmer. He also did the music for this recent season of Euphoria. Allegedly. Did he? Oh, yeah. His team did. His team. Okay. His underlings.

2:40:05Joanna Robinson:The Zimmerites.

2:40:06Sean Fennessey:The Zimmerettes? Yeah. That's not very nice. What if there were men and women involved?

2:40:11Mallory Rubin:Is it my turn? It's gender nude.

2:40:12Sean Fennessey:It is. Is Etz? Why not?

2:40:15Mallory Rubin:In Wild Card, but it could have been franchise, I'm going to take Breck Eisner's The Crazies. That's a CR pick. I love it. This is a remake of a 1973 George Romero movie. I much like Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead. It cooks. I think Romero creates a platform for people to do great work and Timothy Oliphant plays a sheriff in a small Iowa town where there's a chemical outbreak that turns people into raging violent

2:40:47Sean Fennessey:sort of zombies sort of zombies

2:40:49Mallory Rubin:Rhonda Mitchell's in this and I just love her and this is an awesome movie and I this is one of my favorite little like subgenres is like small town gone upside down in horror movies

2:41:01Sean Fennessey:speak on the cinema of Breck Eisner

2:41:04Mallory Rubin:well he did this and he did Sahara am I right

2:41:06Sean Fennessey:are you familiar with anything else about him

2:41:08Mallory Rubin:I know that his father is Michael Eisner

2:41:10Sean Fennessey:his father is Michael Eisner oh okay and his name is Breck

2:41:14Mallory Rubin:his name is probably something else and he changed he's like goes by Breck right it's like a cool name

2:41:21Sean Fennessey:Breckin yeah yeah Tomabreck or something it's like short for something Breckwin Willabreck Willabreck seems like it could be it damn son damn son Damn, Breck. Michael Breckenridge. I was going to say, is it Breckenridge?

2:41:39Mallory Rubin:He's short for Breckenridge. And they're like, Brecksy. If it's 11 p.m. and you're like, I don't feel like going to bed yet, watch the fucking crazies. It's a really, really solid two hours. How did you say they became crazy? There's like a plane crashes with some chemicals on it and it spreads throughout the town. Are you concerned at all that that's what's going to happen to us in Los Angeles? I'm not convinced that the chemicals have not led us to a four hour podcast. As Mike Johnson loses control of the caucus.

2:42:11Joanna Robinson:You had that in wild card?

2:42:12Mallory Rubin:Yeah.

2:42:13Sean Fennessey:Okay, so Joanna, is it the final pick?

2:42:15Joanna Robinson:Yeah. Hold on one second.

2:42:18Sean Fennessey:I think you have the very last pick. I can't believe there's a new prime minister. I know. You broke that news to me, bud. Wild card is your category. Correct. You can take any film undrafted released in the year 2010.

2:42:33Joanna Robinson:Some good ones left. Genuinely can't believe this is still available. Feels good. I'll be taking the trip. I almost picked that. I love that. Well, I have bad news, Joe. Unfortunately, not available. It's not. It's not eligible. This is technically a 2011 US release. It was. I did include it in the letterbox. Yeah, it was on your letterbox. You put it on your letterbox. Oh, damn.

2:42:54Rob Mahoney:Subterfuge. Wow. That's brutal. That would have been amazing. Jo just, she closed the laptop and everything. That would have been a sick, the hammer pick too.

2:43:03Sean Fennessey:It was originally in my mind, I was like, this is the ultimate pick in franchise film.

2:43:07Joanna Robinson:But I was, yeah.

2:43:08Mallory Rubin:You can still pick 127 hours.

2:43:10Joanna Robinson:Oh, thank you.

2:43:13Rob Mahoney:Oh, that hasn't been chosen. I wonder why.

2:43:17Sean Fennessey:What do you think it is? Just too tough a subject matter? Probably so. Tough watch. You said best performance of the year, Franco, that year. No, the Swiss Army. I mean, it was the best movie.

2:43:31Joanna Robinson:I will pick Never Let Me Go.

2:43:34Sean Fennessey:It lasted a long time.

2:43:36Joanna Robinson:Not a fan of that movie. It doesn't have a good category this year. Not a fan. It's one of my 10 favorite books ever. So the movie just could. Yeah, it's definitely not. It's a loose adaptation, like a quite loose adaptation, but it's an incredible, like an incredible crop of young actors. It is. Great performances. Yeah. And great sweaters. And like a really good visual style, I think as well. but in terms of like adaptation it is very loose well it was selected second overall the last time this draft was done you got it at 49 oh there you go

2:44:04Mallory Rubin:it's a win it's a lot of value dude no one took fish tank what happened fish tank was this year oh yeah you guys talked about fish tank on the last draft so you were like wow did none of us pick fish tank it was number two

2:44:16Sean Fennessey:on my original list yeah I had it 11th on my overall list oh man that's a bummer and I didn't draft it I feel like I've drafted it at some point don't worry I talked about

2:44:25Joanna Robinson:I was like, I fussed under fucking Lishi Vikander, and I think that's basically the same thing. You're not wrong. That's an absolutely chilling scene.

2:44:32Sean Fennessey:No one took tiny furniture? Any thoughts on Fishtank? I love it. Do you feel like your life at all, or?

2:44:39Sean Fennessey:You can say no.

2:44:40Mallory Rubin:Is this the kind of dirty tricks I can expect out on the campaign trail? Fishtank just absolutely just went over. I didn't know. Great moment. How would it go if you and I ran against each other? I think we would bring decorum back to politics.

2:44:52Sean Fennessey:I think you're right. so Fish Tank was going to be my number one honorable mention yeah bummer that I didn't get picked

2:44:59Rob Mahoney:my other one is

2:45:02Sean Fennessey:Four Lions which is an amazing British comedy starring a young Riz Ahmed this is the year of Tiny Furniture that's right in the Dunham's indie breakthrough film right before Girls comes which is a good movie Hot Tub Time Machine classic fans not fans it's fine no one took the king's speech or the fighter. It's kind of weird.

2:45:24Rob Mahoney:The fighter, I'm surprised. That one probably could have gone somewhere. The fighter is one of my favorite Amy Adamses. But I don't really care about it that much. Bale going crazy in that bitch. I almost did King's Speech and Blockbuster, but then I just, I don't know. Why is that movie so roundly hated now? Because it took the best picture Oscar away from Social Network. And also because it was so clearly like a Harvey Weinstein engineered best picture when at the height of some of that everybody talks a bunch of shit on it I remember it was kind of a thing when it came out people were talking about the movie it was very popular yeah they're not bad in it it was a thing it was like a big deal and like now it's like one of those ones you look back on and everybody has something bad to say not me a couple other oh you go ahead

2:46:10Sean Fennessey:I was just gonna say I have no problem saying that I hold the social network's loss against it when I saw it in theaters this is not bad it's solid but I'm just I'm just being a brat

2:46:19Mallory Rubin:it's kind of like how you feel about Green Book now right

2:46:22Sean Fennessey:No, I liked Green Book when it came out, honestly. I said it at the time. I don't think it's a worthy Best Picture winner. It's a bad Best Picture winner.

2:46:28Rob Mahoney:Who won the Green Book? What should have won the Green Book? Roma. Roma.

2:46:33Mallory Rubin:Green Book is an abomination. We did not select the late period Clint Eastwood classic Hereafter. We did not select the Valerie Plame film Fair Game. I've seen it. Damn, Valerie.

2:46:52Sean Fennessey:Where'd you find these state secrets? That's never not going to work on me.

2:46:58Rob Mahoney:Just listen to two minutes. I also just, like Valerie had thought about that.

2:47:02Mallory Rubin:Devil. Good movie.

2:47:04Rob Mahoney:Oh shit.

2:47:05Mallory Rubin:In an elevator.

2:47:06Rob Mahoney:I love that one.

2:47:07Sean Fennessey:It was very fun.

2:47:08Rob Mahoney:People hate it though.

2:47:10Joanna Robinson:Do you remember the theater when the devil trailer came out? And you're watching the devil trailer and everyone's like, oh, this looks great, blah, blah. But M. Night's like stock was so low. And then it was like, at the end, it was like, direct by M. Night. It was from the mind. From the mind.

2:47:23Mallory Rubin:And the entire theater laughed.

2:47:25Joanna Robinson:He was like, yeah.

2:47:27Mallory Rubin:But then he came back for his corners with The Visit and now he's got it together. He goes.

2:47:33Joanna Robinson:Yeah, that beach that you're old?

2:47:34Mallory Rubin:It's called Old.

2:47:35Rob Mahoney:Yeah. I like that. He goes on little runs and then it falls off and it's bad and then it comes back.

2:47:41Sean Fennessey:His next film is a collaboration with Nicholas Sparks. It's called Remain. It's a romantic thriller.

2:47:47Joanna Robinson:No one's wearing it like him. Probably someone's a ghost.

2:47:50Sean Fennessey:Predators? I love Predators

2:47:52Joanna Robinson:almost went Predators

2:47:53Sean Fennessey:in franchise Predators awesome Predators is the if you know you know Predator movie for sure I'm pro Predators Trash Humpers

2:47:59Rob Mahoney:I'm not Trash Humpers so Predators real quick I thought that Adrian Brody after Predators was gonna go on a little action that's the one he got

2:48:07Joanna Robinson:an 8 pack for

2:48:08Rob Mahoney:he got he went and he was so believable he was diesel and so fucking awesome I was like you know what he's gonna go mainstream for a little while cash some checks as an action guy

2:48:18Sean Fennessey:the Nick Cage face off move kind of

2:48:19Rob Mahoney:and he was just like fuck it, I'm not into it. Can I put a theory as to why that didn't work for him? Go for it. Did you see Splice from this year? Yes. I think that's the reason why. When he has sex with his surrogate kangaroo daughter. I kind of enjoyed that movie. I don't know, man. I also like Splice. I don't know. Vincenzo Natali at the cinema. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not a prude, but I had to clutch my pearls at that one.

2:48:39Joanna Robinson:That was weird. It's a complicated film. It's a weird movie. Vincenzo Natali is the one who directed that episode of Hannibal where he comes out of a horse.

2:48:44Rob Mahoney:Yeah, see, I'm cool with that. But he's always so frail when he's critically acclaimed, and he was so physically and even energetically dominant in that movie. I thought he had a lane there. He was like, fuck it. What did I draft last time? No one took Guy and Madeline this time either. Throw that one out there. Let's see, Chris. Last time you took Never Let Me Go in the first round as your drama. You took Jackass 3D in the second round as your comedy or horror pick. You took Shutter Island in the third round as your blockbuster. You took A Prophet in the fourth round as your animated or foreign language.

2:49:20You took Monsters as your wild card. And you took Robin Hood as your sequel.

2:49:24Mallory Rubin:I was thinking about doing Robin Hood again. Terrible movie. Which Robin Hood? The one with Oscar Isaac and Russell Crowe. Oh, shit.

2:49:32Sean Fennessey:Essential movie in the lore of our friendship. Yes. We recorded a test podcast without a podcast network or proper equipment about the film Robin Hood. That's so cute. In 2010. In his basement. In my basement.

2:49:42Joanna Robinson:Do you have the tapes?

2:49:44Sean Fennessey:The Library of Congress. Woodward and Bernstein. Okay. Should we recap our teams? Yeah, no more honorable mentions. I got a couple. Country Strong, starring Tim McGraw and Gwyneth Paltrow. I was genuinely wondering if you might draft Country Strong. I had it on a wild cut. Listen, crazy things happen, and it's always good to... And Leighton Meester and Garrett Hedlund speaking up. What if you had done Country Strong and Remember Me? How would you feel about that? I mean, that is kind of the strategy I brought last night. If I were in your drafting spot, like that's maybe what would have happened.

2:50:20And then EZA and just fully gone for it. And then Ghost Rider? Yeah. Roman Polanski film. Ewan McGregor. Pierce Brosnan. Great Pierce Brosnan performance. Yeah. It's pretty good. I rewatched part of it last night and I was like, well, you know, a little rickety, but also very fun.

2:50:39Sean Fennessey:There's a Tom Cruise movie this year. Night and Day. Night and Day.

2:50:42Rob Mahoney:I've never seen it.

2:50:44Sean Fennessey:Undrafted?

2:50:44Rob Mahoney:I saw maybe like 10 minutes of it. I never saw it. It's not great.

2:50:49Sean Fennessey:Some really good foreign language films. Carlos, the Olivia S.A.S. films. Valhalla Rising from Nick Winning Refn. Secret Sunshine is this year. White Material. Uncle Boon Me. Uncle Boon Me. What else? What other Oscar nominees? Damn, Sean. I'm going to watch a wine match. I didn't know he was going to do that. pretty good machete machete uh-huh sure yeah uh paranormal activity 2 do you like that huh

2:51:20Mallory Rubin:I broke CR I I know that I've been potting since 945 a.m it's 4 p.m now and uh that's the funniest thing I've heard all day and if I could if I could have like a full soundboard I would I would use it all the time uh like you would say something really special about Entangled and I would just go flex mom damn

2:51:45Joanna Robinson:Entangled damn son where'd you get that hair

2:51:55flex moms

2:51:56Sean Fennessey:flex moms that's something Jack can explore just dropping put your hand I did say damn son where'd you find that when I watched Mena Seifert and Chloe I don't know if you guys have seen that fucking right

2:52:07Rob Mahoney:of course

2:52:08Sean Fennessey:that's a good one

2:52:10Rob Mahoney:one on the ones

2:52:12Sean Fennessey:okay let's recap our teams so Mal you had first picks why don't you go first okay so in order of the rounds round one social network was my franchise film round two blue valentine my original round three kick ass my comedy round four how to train your dragon my blockbuster round five winter's bone my oscar nom round six a prophet foreign language or animated and round seven the kids are all right a wild card feel pretty good about that I don't really remember I was gonna say I don't remember my round But I'll try to do it. Round one in original, I took Inception. Round two in comedy, I took the other guys, I think.

2:52:46Sean Fennessey:Round three in Oscar nominee, I took Animal Kingdom. Round four in foreign language, I took Mother. Blockbuster Tangled.

2:52:56Joanna Robinson:We don't have to do it in that order.

2:52:57Sean Fennessey:Blockbuster Tangled. In franchise film, I took Insidious. And in Wild Card, I took Daddy Long Legs. Okay, Amanda. I'm going to try. In Oscar nominee, I took the town in Comedy, Morning Glory, an original, Greenberg, in foreign language animated, Dogtooth, in Blockbuster, Despicable Me, in franchise, Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 1, and in Wildcard, Please Give. Rob. I took Toy Story 3 in Blockbuster, somewhere in original, although I kind of wish it was comedy still. MacGruber in comedy, I Am Love in Foreigner Animated, Black Swan in Oscar another year in actual comedy and Ip Man in Wild Card

2:53:39Rob Mahoney:we didn't talk about Ip Man Ip Man is that shit bro incredible Jack what I drafted I can't remember what I drafted in comedy Van selected Scott Pilgrim versus the world in franchise film he took Iron Man 2 in original he took The Book of Eli in blockbuster he took Tron Legacy Oscar nominee exit through the gift shop Wild Card due date and foreign slash animated Megamind one of the all time draft performances incredible also will you stop making Jack your PA I don't remember you guys I don't ever do that he literally texted me on the clock spammed he's like Jack Jack what categories do I have left

2:54:19Joanna Robinson:I saw him at one point like point at you and be like

2:54:22Mallory Rubin:I'm here for the vibes of my people man Chris you're up I don't have this in order I'm just gonna do it cause this way I can say that in franchise I took Twilight Saga Eclipse in original not based on any previous ever existing story that anyone's ever told each other. Brooklyn's Finest. In comedy, Jackass 3D again took that one. Enson D in foreign or animated. Oscar nominee was Unstoppable for best sound editing. Blackbuster was Shutter Island. And Wildcard was Breck Eisner's The Crazies.

2:54:56Sean Fennessey:Breck son of Michael. Joanna. Try to do this with no bitterness, Joanna. Come on.

2:55:02Joanna Robinson:No, I'm full of sweetness and honey. In franchise film, I took The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. In original, not based on any pre-existing source material, I took Salt. In comedy, I took Easy A. In foreign language slash animated, I took Beautiful. In Oscar nominee, I took Inside Job. In blockbuster, I took True Grit. And in Wildcard, I took Never Let Me Go. Just clarifying one thing. Rob said MacGruber in comedy. He took it in franchise film. You're absolutely right. Thank you. That's it.

2:55:34Sean Fennessey:I think this went really well had a blast pretty normal think that we'll get some good feedback on this one probably honestly yeah and I'll consume all of it people like the mania yeah I love this team I'm proud of this team the best I feel this is a very special not fucking around group

2:55:49Mallory Rubin:I think next year

2:55:51Joanna Robinson:you should pick a worse year for films and have us pick more like 60 yeah you should make it it's like 70

2:55:57Mallory Rubin:70 movies but for like the worst year for like the pure COVID year

2:56:01Sean Fennessey:I mean this is where I want us to go with this project. You know, it's like how hard can we scrape the bottom of that barrel? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, thank you to Van. Thank you to Mal. Thank you to CR. Thank you to Joe. Thank you to Rob. Thank you to Jack Sanders. Thanks to Lucas Cavanaugh. Thanks to everyone here at Spotify.

2:56:20Mallory Rubin:She did great work today.

2:56:21Sean Fennessey:Amanda, do you feel you deserve a thank you at the end of every episode? Should we bake that in? When will I get a thanks? Will that ever happen? Indeed. This fucking show? Chris like don't talk to a woman like that Chris can you just help me with my Google right now you know so next episode we're talking about Supergirl and Jackass Best and Last and The Invite those are the three films how many people have seen The Invite has anybody I almost made an invite reference on this podcast but a little early well you know I never know where in time we are but I held it back wow I'm just living in there now you're like Joe Biden yeah

2:57:05Joanna Robinson:we just do the Supergirl podcast from the bar from MacGuffins yeah from MacGuffins

2:57:09Sean Fennessey:do we have a MacGuffins date tomorrow yeah

2:57:12Joanna Robinson:we do it but that was like three hours ago before we have 7.30 yeah and then do like a 10pm from the bar podcast with great audio from our iPhones

2:57:24Sean Fennessey:yeah or should we just go on IG live oh IG live a 10 person IG live how late does MacGuffins stay open Never closes. Okay.

2:57:33Rob Mahoney:Cinema of the Mind. Wait a minute. Is everybody at the screening tomorrow too? Sadly not. I didn't get that invite. I'm not a ringer version like y 'all. I'm not going to that.

2:57:45Sean Fennessey:Because the film has girl in the title. Yeah.

2:57:48Mallory Rubin:I have to get back to my...

2:57:50Rob Mahoney:She'll smack you around. What TV are you watching right now?

2:57:54Mallory Rubin:Star City and House of the Dragon. Yeah. The Star City recommendation couldn't have been better.

2:58:00Rob Mahoney:Still got it.

2:58:00Mallory Rubin:Hot beer. Damn. I mean, what I've seen, I've enjoyed.

2:58:05Rob Mahoney:I mean, I read some stuff, but I've only watched. From what I've seen, I've enjoyed. I thought it was great.

2:58:09Sean Fennessey:Cool. Great.

2:58:10Rob Mahoney:Tough. Okay. Tough shit. Tough to watch.

2:58:13Sean Fennessey:Violent, violent.

2:58:14Rob Mahoney:Violent.

2:58:14Sean Fennessey:Yeah.

2:58:15Rob Mahoney:Sad. I had to hit Joe for, like, fucking moral support. Like, that was too much.

2:58:21Sean Fennessey:How would you do on the back of a dragon?

2:58:23Rob Mahoney:Not well. Don't like heights. Don't like scaly animals and shit like that. Did I support you morally? You did. Wow. you did oh I thought we were talking about Star City until dragons came up

2:58:34Sean Fennessey:Star City good yeah well thanks everybody for participating in this episode Sean thank you for putting this together

2:58:39Joanna Robinson:thank you Sean thanks for all the work you do I really appreciate it yeah yeah yeah it's really good thanks Sean

2:58:45Sean Fennessey:okay thank you bye

2:59:00Thank you.