The 2025 Movie Auction Returns!

8 Jul 2025 · 2 h 19 min

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The Big Picture - Episode Summary

Episode Title

The 2025 Movie Auction Returns!

Hosts

Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins

Guest

Chris Ryan

Producer

Jack Sanders

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Episode Overview In this episode of *The Big Picture*, Sean Fennessey, Amanda Dobbins, and guest Chris Ryan conduct Part 2 of their 2025 Movie Auction. The hosts reminisce about the late Michael Madsen, discuss box office performances, review their previous auction selections, and delve into the movies they're most looking forward to this year.

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Key Themes and Topics

Tribute to Michael Madsen

  • Discussion Point: The hosts pay tribute to actor Michael Madsen, who passed away at the age of 67.
  • Notable Works: Mention of his roles in *Reservoir Dogs*, *Kill Bill*, and *The Hateful Eight*.

Previous Auction Results

  • Review of 2024 Selections: The hosts reflect on their prior choices and results from the earlier auction.
  • Scoring System Update: Introduction of a new scoring system for assessing films based on box office and critical reception.

2025 Movie Slate

  • Major Films Discussed:
  • *Superman*
  • *Avatar: Fire and Ash*
  • *The Ballad of a Small Player*
  • *It Was Just an Accident*
  • Budgeting Strategy: Each host has a budget to auction films which they believe will perform well at the box office or critically.

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Auction Highlights

Auction Structure

  • Format: The auction follows a bidding format with a starting price of $1 for films.
  • Key Strategies:
  • Each host aims to choose movies they believe will do well in boxes or earn critical acclaim.
  • Discussion about the potential and previous performance of big-name directors like James Gunn and Chloe Zhao.

Selected Films and Bids

  • Chris's Picks:
  • *The Ballad of a Small Player* - $165
  • *Weapons* - $465
  • *Is This Thing On?* - $70
  • *Now You See Me 3* - $36
  • *Deliver Me From Nowhere* - $60
  • Sean's Picks:
  • *Avatar: Fire and Ash* - $300
  • *Superman* - $62
  • *Hamnet* - $219
  • *It Was Just an Accident* - $41
  • *Predator Badlands* - $1
  • Amanda's Picks:
  • *After the Hunt* - $260
  • *Roof Man* - $100
  • *Jay Kelly* - $420
  • *A House of Dynamite* - $180
  • *Downton Abbey: The Grand Finale* - $40

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Concluding Thoughts

  • Audience Engagement: The hosts encourage listeners to consider the nuances of box office performance versus critical acclaim.
  • Final Thoughts on Film Trends: The episode highlights ongoing trends in the film industry regarding adaptations, directorial styles, and the market dynamics affecting both blockbuster and independent films.

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Note: This episode showcases the hosts’ deep passion for cinema and their understanding of the complex interplay between box office success, critical reception, and personal enjoyment of films.

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0:00This episode of The Big Picture is presented by Starbucks. The unofficial drink of summer is here, and it's just as good as I remembered. Starbucks Summer Berry Refresher is everything you'd want from a summer beverage. A blend of berry notes shaken with ice and poured over a layer of new raspberry-flavored pearls. And personally, my favorite refresher is the Summer Berry Lemonade. It just tastes like summer in a cup and adds a whole other level of fresh flavors. We are on the brink of a major heat wave here in Los Angeles, and nothing would be more refreshing than a Starbucks Summer Berry Lemonade Refresher.

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0:47I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is the Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. It is the midway point of the year. And so we are auctioning once again to fill out our slates, which means Chris Ryan's here. Hi, Chris. How are you? Nice to see you guys. Nice to see you. Chris, last time I saw you, we were crying arm in arm watching The Wild Bunch on 70mm. What an experience. It was a magical night. Me, you, Tyler Parker, 300 other very normal men experiencing cinema together. Any takeaways from that night out? I just can't believe how alive and well the spirit of movies is in Hollywood.

1:21There was also a Trump rally, I think, in Hollywood. Yes, which you organized and weirdly made it out to the movie. That was so strange. They just needed me for pre-pro. Amanda, how are you? How was your weekend? Did you go to the Trump rally? It was lovely. No, I went to the beach and I had a great time. And now I'm back here sitting between the two of you. I can't tell. Are you getting tired of us? I was excited to see you. And then he got a little spicy about the box office. And then you guys were doing your Wild Bunch stuff, which sounds really nice. but you know the 70 millimeter festival is one of the great things that happens in this city it is it's really cool it was opening weekend and we've all got tickets for various films throughout the month which will be exciting Wild Bunch holds up it's definitely a movie about men not knowing how to be around each other and alive and constantly making choices about the end of the world so you know resonant in these times unfortunately another man is not alive Jesus Christ that was a segue you can't get in the way of a segue like that I'll do a better segue okay a guy who wouldn't have been a stranger in a Sam Peckinpah movie how about that that's right Michael Madsen the great Michael Madsen would have fit right in he passed away at 67 on July 3rd tragically you know starved probably most memorably for us for Quentin Tarantino films yeah I think most of us probably saw him for the first time as Mr.

2:52Blonde in Reservoir Dogs he was also in both Kill Bill movies He was in The Hateful Eight. Actually going through his filmography, kind of blown away by the depth of work that he did in the 90s and 2000s. He really was in from The Doors to The Natural to Kill Me Again, Donnie Brasco, Free Willy. I was going to say, don't you dare skip Free Willy. Yeah, I mean, Wyatt Earp. Thelma and Louise, right? Yeah, a ton of movies over the years. A linchpin, often identified as a tough guy, but I always thought more of like your cool nihilist, you know, the anything goes kind of character. Pretty quirky. Very strange.

3:24Mr. Blonde. Presence, yes. Let's cut the rug. We'll dance, yeah. He inspired a lot of your dance moves. You know, he's been working mostly in independent and VOD stuff in the last 15, 20 years, but just one of my favorite people to see pop up in a movie. And also one of the stars of your favorite movie, Species. Sure, yes. Which is about an alien woman who comes to this planet and murders her prey. It's apparently going to be rewatchable. Oh, really? So I've heard. Oh, okay. That's exciting. You're not appearing on that episode? I haven't been drafted yet, but I'm waiting for the bat signal to go up.

4:01Okay. Speaking of bat signals, you guys saluted to a dino-shaped shadow in the sky called Jurassic World Rebirth. It opened this weekend to$147 million domestically. How are you feeling? I feel good, but I think the other underlying story here is Scarlett Johansson is our most successful movie star now. Yeah. Well, the Avengers are counting. towards that total, right? So she's just racking up franchises at this point. Yeah. I think that, honestly, when you look at the list of people who are the most successful actors of all time, it's usually because they've been a part of a really long-running franchise.

4:37Samuel L. Jackson for a while was, I think, the reigning box office king. Vin Diesel probably cakes up. Definitely. So it's not stunning, but another savvy career move by ScarJo. Staying in the news. Anything you want to say to the people or to the dinosaurs? Have you thought about whether or not you were too hard on that movie? No, it's terrible. Direct to camera to Gareth Edwards. Gareth, you're a very talented crafts person. Your scripts are terrible. I don't know what to tell you, man. This is like five movies in a row.

5:11The box office has just been killing it for three months. Movies, I had my little emotional break in March where I was like, God, TV, White Lotus, and all these other limited series. And then ever since then, I spoke it out of existence. It's just been movie time. CRU hosted a television podcast. How's that going? It's going fine. Today we talked about The Eternaut, an Argentine, Argentinian show about the end of the world or about an apocalyptic event. And then we also talked about Smoke, which is Dennis Lehane's Apple TV show, which Andy hated. And I thought was fine. Okay. Interesting. Yeah.

5:46I keep finding myself on the other side of like a very passionate argument that I don't have a ton of passion for. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. This reminds me that I need your BritBox password so I can watch the show about the Mitfords. There's another show about the Mitfords? I don't think there's ever actually been a show about them. But Amanda is constantly creating the content around them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm surprised you didn't create that show. Obviously, many people have been, many characters have been modeled on them throughout time, including perhaps one movie that one of us will auction in the fall.

6:18Zora Bennett from Jurassic World Rebirth. Got a little bit of a Mitford tour. There was a mercenary quality to at least one of them. That is true. Any thoughts on Jurassic World? It actually kind of like underperformed relative to the franchise. Yeah, sure. Yeah. Do you know what the three-day weekend box office was for this movie? $147 million domestically. No, that was the five-day weekend. That was what your dollars from Wednesday morning at 8 a.m. went to. The three-day weekend was 91. Oh, okay. Wow, what cucks. That's pretty low, actually, relative to the typical three-day weekend for a Jurassic movie.

6:53And you think Suits is coming along to bust it out? I don't know. What else did you do this weekend that has given us this mind state? What do you mean? He seems good. He seems okay. He seems okay? Okay. Yeah. I'm still confused by you guys being like, we need more of these Jurassic World movies. Do you know what, though? I rarely do this, but I will remember you said that. A, the next time you like a bad movie. and B, if next year you're like, and of course Jurassic World, which I thought was a really thoughtful depiction. Because I think you count on me not checking the tape, but this one's singed.

7:28I'm going to remember this. Fair enough. If I do that, you have the privilege to shoot me in the face live on the pod. And I promise Eileen will not press charges.

7:47Oh, man! To...

8:09Should we talk about the movie auction? Absolutely. You have some updates. Well, we can go through our slate, but a gentleman named Sam Birtwistle has been working on the show for us this summer, and he's been helping us build out our documents, provide research, and he made a proposition about the scoring system that we have for the movie auction. Now, the movie auction, I will admit, is one of my least thought-out projects in the history of this show. I came up with it on a Sunday at 9 p.m. before a Monday record, and was just like, guys, can we do this? And you said yes. I had no parameters for success.

8:44We didn't properly track it across the year. There were no stakes whatsoever. A year ago, I added some wrinkles to the rules, which I admit - A year ago or six months ago? I think it was for 2024. So - Yeah, it was the second one of 2024, I believe. The triggers were added at the beginning of 2024, which included Metacritic score and box office. Yeah. and Oscar nominations as indicators of a strong slate of auctioned-off movies. Right. Again, not some of my best work. So, Sam... But I think these pods are some of our best work. I do, yeah. I think they're some of our most thoughtful discussions of the state of cinema.

9:25I'll take your word for that. We go new places. We learn new things about each other and the world, you know? Yeah. That may be true. Yeah. I don't want to upset that. Yeah. Let me just... I don't want to spoil this auction, but I am bringing, like, an original auction energy to my personal list and prep for this podcast. That means that I looked at the letterbox list 20 minutes ago. But that's okay. Okay. Because I did read the new rules, but there are new rules. If we want to employ them. Adapt us, yeah. So I'll just read them out to you guys and you can let me know if you're interested in adapting.

9:57I don't know if we're going to get it past the Freedom Caucus. Yeah, well, excuse me. Yeah, major Marjorie Taylor Greene energy this morning. Fuck both of you. And fuck Marjorie Taylor Greene. So this would be the new proposed scoring. Rather than just having triggers like we had in the past, where if you crossed$100 million domestically, that indicates you're cleared and your board is valid. We could have more of a tiered system. So$150 million at the box office would be 1 point. $300 million would be 1 point. $450 million would be 1 point, so on and so forth. Likewise for Metacritic. $79 on Metacritic would be 1 point.

10:30$82 on Metacritic would be 1 point. $85 would be 1 point. And then the highest in the draft, Metacritic-wise, would also get an additional point. Now, I set an 85 Metacritic bar last year, which is pretty high. There's usually only roughly 10 to 12 movies that cross that threshold, and nine of them are films that most people will not see. And then, of course, there's Oscars. So there's Below the Line, Nominations and Wins. Only half a point. Not very respectful to our craftspeople. Yeah. I think we can also massage anything that Sam has suggested here. Above the line would be one point and a best picture win would also be one point.

11:10So thoughts on this framework? I like it. I also think that there would be my revision to this would be like, should we get a Tony Reale-esque kind of like live scoring going to like just to mix it up, you know, where a guy is just like 10 points. That's a great, that's a great idea. You know, like. Do you want Jack Sanders to be scoring us in real time? I mean, that is something that we probably could pull off. But we could have a revolving cast of Tony Reales. Okay. You know? You mean you want to have like a guest come in mid-auction and determine. You know, when we first started doing the auction, we had Danny Heifetz come in and explain auctioning.

11:43That's right. Because I was very nervous about auctioning. Right. And ringer fantasy football co-host and participant in many fantasy drafts over the years. This is sort of our version of the fantasy draft. So we could do that in the future. We're not doing it today. Okay. Because we didn't ask anybody. as a resource Sam went through and graded out our 2024 slates with these rules if applied. And the results, which I acknowledge mean nothing because we weren't using these rules. Because I'm winning. So that's, of course, you've acknowledged. No, no, no, no. Last year. Well, the scores are from last year because of that attitude that you're suggesting to me are that I would have had 38 points.

12:20Chris, you would have had 13.5 and Amanda would have had 10. Now, obviously, that's meaningless relative to what we're talking about here. But do you want to do this? Do you want to use this system? Sure. Okay. You're rolling with it. I'm rolling with it. I don't think anything will materially change for me. In terms of what you're going for. Yeah. You know, because we introduced, I guess we had some thresholds last summer, but I don't remember that. There was some SQL stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But we really got into it in January. and I this strategy just kind of trying to think in strategy really threw me off like my course which is doing what's best for me um and like not giving a shit about what anybody else thinks has brought me this far so where would you say that is dealing with you on a Monday morning that's what I'm saying did you get where you wanted to go but it's like you know a person of your own design exactly I don't I don't run a studio so I don't really have to care about box office.

13:24I don't really respect other people's opinions, so I don't need to care about Metacritic. So I think it's good. It was a lot of numbers that you just said, so I'm happy that Sam is doing the math and not me. I don't know who you just referenced is or how that would function. Tony? Tony Reale. He was the host of Around the Horn, which is like, pardon the interruption, Around the Horn, but the afternoon block on ESPN. and like you know people would have a take and he would be like constantly giving them points or taking away points depending on like what he thought of their takes whether their opinion was interesting oh so it would be like live in the episode live scoring if you'd just be like I mean I do think we should have like more like buttons and interactive that you want to be able to press yeah exactly we'll definitely look into that so I think that's a good idea definitely I'm going with it I thought there was a person of this document where I was winning something so you're doing okay this year well you are doing well this year but I thought I was winning.

14:21Just relax. It's July 7th. A lot of ball game left here. Okay. Let's go through our slates from last year because that'll help illuminate I think what Amanda is saying. Last year? Or from last auction. Last draft. Okay. So you go first. Yeah. So what did you get last year and where does it, or last season and where does it stand? Well, let's see. The first one I have is Megan 2.0 which was just, you know, a disaster. I like, Did I fuck up? Did they fuck up? Who can really say? You should go on The Town and talk about it. I did. Another post-mortem? Another post-mortem. I thought that Jason Blum was very, very savvy to go on The Town, and I listened to all of it and enjoyed it.

15:07It didn't speak to my personal complaints with the film Megan 2.0, which you and I both saw. We did. That didn't really pan out. No, I think they overthought what the... I think that Jason was right about the fact that Megan was not as flexible and fungible a character as they had hoped. And that the idea of pivoting this into a sci-fi action movie away from work. I didn't even know they had done that, though. To me, there's something else. There are a number of other factors going on. I think the movie, ultimately, is just not as strong as the first movie. It's not as funny. It's not as energetic and propulsive.

15:44And then on top of that... It was a little funny, though. There's some humor. I still chuckled. It's the same filmmaker from the first film. It's just doing, it's doing too much and it's trying to, there is an opening set piece in like some, you know, weapon system silo in an undisclosed location that has nothing to do with Megan and you're just kind of like, what's going on? It is actually pretty CR coded. Yeah, in that sense. Is Megan a lioness? There's the villain, the T-1000 of the movie is a kind of lioness. Okay. Yeah. And I think you would be sexually attracted to her. Well, part of the reason why Lioness is such an effective story is you also get a sense of their home life.

16:24They're not robots, you know? Right. I'm sure that's true of Lioness. I think the other thing with the movie is they release it in the middle of June, which Jason noted, which is like a weird release date. And it's two hours long. And movies like that should always be 95 minutes. That made no sense to me, being two hours long. True. Agree with all of what you said. And then as Matt sort of pointed out, on the town, they did not have like the massive viral marketing moment that propelled Megan 1.0. And was just, I mean, you can't control it. You can't fault anyone for not having that. But that was the dancing and the TikTok of it all certainly played a part in getting people to theaters.

17:03I think they were also obviously just competing with a lot more movies for that viral mindshare in June. It's just like How to Train Your Dragon was a massive movie that the same studio put out. There's only so much kind of interest. It's a dumpy worry movie. It's like a perfect dumpy worry movie. The first one absolutely was. It was like, it was, uh, it was water in the desert in the January release slate. Right. A year and a half ago. So anyway, um, movie didn't work. So that didn't help you very much. So yeah. And I was banking on that from a box office perspective. Didn't really work, but I did get F1, which I think is going to help me with box office and, um, also hopefully technical categories.

17:40though once again I do think that it's disrespectful that it only gets.5 there's an exceedingly high chance it will be nominated at least for best sound yeah maybe best editing cinematography yeah Claudio Miranda I believe was nominated for Top Gun Maverick yeah so I could see that see so listen we could we could back some up okay I got Opus which is a sentimental favorite so that's fine with me Venetian Scheme which is another one of my favorite movies of the year so I feel good about that I think, you know, once again, the critics are not helping me with the Metacritic score and I don't respect them and they don't respect me, apparently.

18:19Or Wes Anderson. Maybe Oscars, but, you know. Do you think at the Critics' Choice they have an Amanda meeting? About disrespecting you? Well, I will be honest, I don't really respect the Critics' Choice. The Oscars, you know, also don't really respect Wes Anderson. So that seems, but it's fine. I have it because I like it. And then Marty Supreme hasn't been released yet. You know? Yes. And to me, we pray. At the moment, you've got one total point relative to this new scoring system. Sure. Because F1 is likely to cross$150 million domestically. Okay. F1 doing pretty well. Yes. Not amazingly well at the box office, but well enough, I think.

19:00Yeah. Chris, let's talk about your slate. I had Sinners, which got two points for its Metacritic score and one point for its$278 million box office. I guess that's domestic, right? Domestic, yeah. I took Jurassic World Rebirth, where I got one point. We'll certainly clear the box office threshold. Might get to two. Might get over 300. And then highest to lowest, Sentimental Value, and Running Man are my other three picks. Not to be released yet. Yet to be released. Highest to lowest, seeing it tonight. Oh, yeah. Very excited. Are you really? Yeah. Yeah. He's going with my husband. I'm very excited for both of you guys.

19:37So I don't get to go. I'm looking forward to it. Okay. So, Chris, you've got four points right now? I think you also have probably a windfall coming on Sinners in terms of nominations. That will turn out to be probably the pick of the year. Yeah. I would guess. Congratulations, Chris. Thanks. Well done, CR. For me, I've got Mission Impossible Final Reckoning, which you know I just didn't really like very much unfortunately for me and that Chris hated it more he did would you like to say any more rude things I think I'm on record on the watch podcast which I hope people carve out a little bit of time to listen to that's your second watch you make it sound like a non-profit you know like you know we're you know the Oasis record standing on the shoulder of giants on the shoulder you know you are the shoulders you're the wind beneath my wings honestly that movie has gained$191 million at the box office so that's one point not getting past there 67 on Metacritic not ideal but roughly honestly pretty much where it sits yeah the idea that the Phoenician scheme is 70 and this movie is 67 is pretty goofy in my opinion yeah 28 years later a movie that I think I'm going to get no points from but I feel good about having on my slate I loved 77 Metacritic score $60 million box office domestically still some open question as to whether there will be a third movie in that franchise.

21:03The Bone Temple arrives in January. I think that January release will be good for the Bone Temple. Could be a Megan situation. Well, I just think it's a great time to be like, here's an action horror movie. Totally agree. Granted, not Danny Boyle, but we'll see. A Big Bull Beautiful Journey is still to come in September. Have not seen it. Can't say I love the trailer, to be honest, though I really like Coconata the director, so hopefully that's good. One battle after another. Yeah. Paul Thomas Anderson's You're welcome. that was very kind of you to allow that to happen I'll view it as penance for all the times I gave you things that you wanted okay one buck one buck for one battle I know because I was filled with the spirit of you know generosity and community is this how you treat your children Saint Nick over here yeah ten weeks that movie comes out yeah ten weeks you looking forward to it yes I would really be looking forward to a Venice opening night premiere.

22:00Oh yeah. You think that will happen? No. I don't either. But I was thinking about it literally in the shower last night like I wonder. What was I just reading about that might go to Venice and I was like ha ha. It was something weird. I was like that would be funny if she has to see that. I can't remember but I was like this is hilarious. Oh it was the Putin movie. Oh shit.

22:24Listen I'll be there. Nothing would have been funnier than you seeing Joker Folia did. Unfortunately that I know. Yeah. Thank you, Asai, for erasing that. Will you participate in the longstanding ovations? With Beetlejuice 2 being the opening. That would have been great. No, here's the thing about the ovations is that it's just like you're just standing around. They're so weird. It's a good-sized theater, but it's not like everyone's on a balcony at the opera removed from you. They're just kind of sitting there, and everyone's just kind of clapping, and the lights are up, and you're checking your phone and clapping some more.

22:56It's very strange. Well, honor Vladimir Putin if it does come to that. I'll make sure to get in front and center. You know, you think he'll be there? No, it's Asaias, right? It's Asaias' movie about him. I did not even know that was happening. Olivier Asaias is making a movie about Vladimir Putin? I think he's done. Yeah. I think it's going to be him. I was not aware of that. That's fascinating. Okay. And you had Eddington. And I had Eddington. That was my last movie, which I've seen and loved, and we will talk about on this show in 10 days. You know what? So when I was watching the trailer for Eddington, or maybe it was a clip from it, it reminded me of my Romulus story of the two guys holding their phones at each other.

23:38That's basically Eddington. It is. It's pretty accurate. I forgot about that. It's pretty accurate.

23:50Oh, God. No, well, this is just a shitty place. It's so perfect. Okay. okay the highest Metacritic scores of the year so far three movies Sorry Baby just had Ava Victor on the show last week let's talk about that Familiar Touch which I recommended on our Best of the Year episode and Caught by the Tides which Adam Naiman sure recommended on on that episode as well seven movies have broken the$150 million threshold thus far what was your meme of you versus Adam Naiman oh Michael Porter Jr. and Cam Johnson yeah who do you think is going to win that trade the nuggets yeah I think the nuggets too movies that have crossed the$150 million threshold Chris how many of these movies have you seen a Minecraft movie nope Lilo and Stitch nope an outrage Sinners yes How to Train Your Dragon nope Captain America Brave New World yes Mission Impossible The Final Reckoning yes Thunderbolts yes Five of Seven pretty good Joe Popcorn over here Amanda has seen all of them because she signed up for this life with me no I actually didn't see a Minecraft movie it yet.

24:56I thought you wouldn't say that at like 10 in the morning or something like that. No, I mean, every single other movie you just listed, I went and saw at 10 in the morning. Okay. That's okay, because the spirit entered my body when I saw Minecraft, and that was the turning point for Movies Are Back. That's when cinema came back to life. That was when it all happened. Truffaut and Hitchcock were rolling around in heaven. Yes, thank you, Jared Hess, for all that you have done. According to DraftKings, the best picture betting odds right now? Sentimental value at plus 500 which CR currently has additional films which may or may not be auctioned off today okay sorry sentimental value is the betting favorite for best picture when you look at it when you look at the best picture race this year it's confusing we said this last year and it turned out to be the Anori year but I remember in the first half of last year we were like this is a weird year and this is also kind of a weird year there's not like a big I won't stand for any uh hit pieces on my guy Joe.

25:56Joachim Trier? Yeah. Fuck that. We're not doing that. I'm not on this show. We love him on this show. I'm just saying when the Oscars starts, people are just like, hmm, what about this? What about that? You mean when he gets in the news cycle? Yeah. What if I Amelia Perez, Joachim Trier? Oh my god. No, that's not going to happen. Did you watch the trailer for Sentimental Value? No, I won't do it. Yeah. Okay. Show us the movie. I was quite touched by the trailer. Yeah, well, sure. I'm going to be very moved by the film itself. I won't be watching that trailer or that trailer. The weapons trailer?

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26:27I'm all good. Unfortunately, I saw it in a movie theater, the second one. I need that movie to be released immediately. I only saw the CinemaCon footage, and it looked really messed up and good. Yeah. No, you guys didn't auction that last time? We did not. It is available right now. Oh. Yeah. So that could be interesting for us. Can I auction it if I have no intention of ever seeing it? Sure. You can do whatever you like. Maybe I'll see. but it's, it's disappointing. Yeah, it seems really upsetting. I think it'll be a tough one for you. Yeah. Additional films that are on the list for the best picture betting odds.

27:00After the Hunt, the Luca Guadagnino movie is plus 700. The Ballad of a Small Player. Venice, Venice, Venice. That will almost assuredly be at Venice. I think probably at Telluride too, if I had to guess. Okay. That's your business. Sorry. How is this introduced? Where are these lists of films you're doing? Just films that are available? These are just the best picture odds right now. As we think about what the slates are going to be for us. After the Hunt is the Luca movie. The Ballad of a Small Plater is the Edward Berger, Macau, Colin Farrell gambling movie. I know. Absolutely. Which we're all very excited about.

27:30Now, I have a bit of a riff about Netflix if you guys are interested to hear it. Sure. Oh, sure. Let's load it up. Well, it's nothing negative, really. It's just that I would argue that six of the 14 most anticipated movies of the year are all Netflix movies. Sure, but then you're taking the box office hit. That's my point. Interesting. so you gotta want it you've got J. Kelly the Noah Baumbach movie you've got Frankenstein from GDT Train Dreams which premiered at Sundance and they picked up Wake Up Dead Man the third Knives Out movie The Ballad of a Small Player and Catherine Bigelow's A House of Dynamite what the fuck so that's that's a really exciting slate for Netflix and that's the new guy right well I think that most of those movies are holdovers from the Scott Stubre era okay but they'll be pushing them out and I want to see all of those movies now can you retroactively draft Electric State you can and then behind them Hamnet Sinners Avatar Fire and Ash these are other potential Best Picture nominees I think probably only two or three of those movies will be nominated for Best Picture and there's going to be a bunch of stuff that we don't know about or isn't listed here that we'll get into okay movie auction now we have to determine who gets to put the first movie up right so Jack can you help us with that Jack you want to you want to explain to people what you're using?

28:50Absolutely. Rest in peace Top Gun hat. I do not own one. In the green room, I found a large Dungeons and Dragons die, which I will be using to select today's nominations. So it's like soccer ball size. It is literally the size of a soccer ball. Which is, I'm told, is not what the normal die size is. I don't believe so. Okay. Shall I go? Yeah. Here we go. Great, great sound effects. It's like our own companion over here. I'm looking out for the audio listeners. nominating first CR yes give us the chaos

29:31second will be Sean Fennessey third Amanda Dobbins okay when you you had first picked the year that you did House of Gucci for like$500 right? I'm not gonna make that mistake but I am gonna I'm gonna keep you guys on your toes you're gonna make another mistake so just for the listeners at home we each have a thousand dollars of imaginary money to auction two we all need five films to fill out our slate so we have ten movies total so Chris you have the honors do you know what you want to do? first pick, first nomination, first movie up for auction let's keep it in the same track we were on I'm going to put Ballad of a Small Player up first Edward Berger on the Sidney Pollack track could be the safest pair of hands we've got right now and this film sounds a little wistful a little contemplative it's about a con man on the run down and out in Macau a place I have not been and he's confronting ghosts, pandets of the soul but I'm getting like wafts, top notes of Michael Clayton from this one.

30:44Yeah. Like it feels like it's going to be more than just like Colin Farrell staring at things. And I like its Oscar chances despite its Netflix pedigree. Okay. I think it's going to be seen by a lot of people and it feels like a good bet. So I'm going to go with that. Unlike all the other Netflix titles I mentioned, I haven't really heard much about this movie. I don't... Based on a novel? 2014 novel? Yeah, it's Rowan Joffe as the screenwriter. Right. Which is a little bit of a... Yeah. What did he write? I was with you... 28 weeks later, before I go to sleep, the Nicole Kidman movie. Not like...

31:22He's no Tony Gilroy. Yeah. Okay. We'll see. Let's put$100. We'll put$100 up there. $100. Yeah. I'll say$125 to play the game with you. Also, we'll say Colin Farrell racking up some awards love over the last couple of years. Yes, that's right. Especially with Penguin. I think everybody enjoys interviewing him. He's a great guy to have around on the round tables. Great speeches. Has been in LA for the last couple of years doing Sugar. And I feel like it's like out and about. Like people really like Colin Farrell right now. He will also be in a big, bold, beautiful journey. Ballad of a Small Player I don't think has a release date.

32:00I would assume October, maybe late September. That's pretty soon. It's probably a movie that's in the discussion for the festivals. Netflix usually has a really strong presence at Venice. Do you have any interest in this movie? You like Edward Burger. I do. And I was, I think I was really, really into it respectfully until you brought up Michael Clayton. And I was like, if this is like a B Michael Clayton, then I'll be a little sad. But also I would watch a B Michael Clayton every day. So I'll do what you did, 125? Yeah. 140. Okay. Okay, we're playing. 150. 150. Is Colin Farrell, if he wins an Oscar, does it feel like you've won an Oscar?

32:37Do you feel like that goes on my mantle? I think that it would put a capstone on one of the great sustained comebacks in modern acting history. Is that too big of a statement? I think he was really in the wilderness for a minute there. I think he was always working, but working in not a lot of good stuff. And he seemed to have some personal stuff too, but always super talented. What is it, 150? I'll say 155. 160? A movie about a high-stakes gambler in Macau. is pretty pornography to me. I trust Edward Berger. Yeah, that's the thing. It's like, I do kind of believe this. Let me proffer a question to you both.

33:20Would you rather have Edward Berger make the next Bond and Denis Villeneuve make whatever movie Edward Berger was going to make next? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think that's probably true. We all agree. Prisoners 2, still in captivity. That's the film that you want to see Denis make next. that's the which one Enemy's the big spider and Prisoners 2 is Gyllenhaal and Hugh Jackman yeah I mean Prisoners but also Prisoners 2 and Prisoners is when Jake Gyllenhaal goes to the guy's house he's like why were you shopping in the kids section but Enemy is the unofficial sequel to The Wild Bunch about the division between men it's about a pregnant lady and twins that's cool and spiders yep oh my god what do you got you got 155 I think I said 160.

34:08160. You did? 165. Okay. I think I'm good. I do want to see this really bad. I just think no box office makes it complicated. Yeah. And probably, I mean, the Oscars, the Academy does like Edward Berger. This is my thing. But they don't like him enough to nominate him. They didn't nominate him last year. But they nominated him for All Quiet on the Western Front, didn't they? Yeah. Hmm. Did they? They may not have. Let's, yeah, find out about that. remember when you were like no they did not only for screenplay so he hasn't been nominated he's never been nominated for director oh okay okay well I'm sticking with my guns it's 165 I can't take it back I can't take I can't take Colin Farrell gambling Macau from you thank you I think this is a this is gonna be a fun movie but I'm excited to see this movie this is a movie we should see together is it gonna be fun or is it gonna be you know if it's Dark Knight of the Soul that's great for me as somebody who loves to gamble I just don't think it's gonna be the card counter I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be a little bit more pop.

35:05Tilda Swinton swanning around. Right. I mean, Conclave, you could also say, is about longing and, you know, a man trying to figure out what he's done with his life. Exactly. So, this could be, I hope that this has some, some momentum. If this has court intrigue as well. Are you suggesting the card counter was not procedural? I think it was more of like a, you know, It's about the procedures in Abu Ghraib. yeah, right, interrogation of torture. Right. Okay, so I have to, put a movie up. Congrats to you. Okay. Thanks.

35:41So 165 is what you did? Yeah. That was value. Okay. To me. Wow. I think this is good fodder for conversation. Okay. I'll put After the Hunt on the board. All right. I feel like we should just talk it out now. Okay. This is a campus cancel culture drama from Luca Guadagnino and is it Justin Keritschkis? that's a great question he wrote Sergeant Rock I don't know if he wrote this I don't think so who wrote this screenplay did you see Luke is doing a Sam Altman movie right now Luke is going to make a Sam Altman movie next month about open AI without Andrew Garfield do you know what else Nora Garrett wrote no don't Beirut oh shit wow wow there are millions of people listening at home who have no idea what Beirut is great sure but we had a Slack channel devoted to it Chris's favorite film of 2016, Beirut, starring Jon Hamm.

36:39No, no, no, no. She was in it. Sorry, I fucked up. Tony Gowry wrote Beirut. Of course he did. Has Nora Garrett written a film? I don't know. You know what? I got to tell you, Google AI really fucked me on that one. Has she written an email? Has she written a postcard? Upcoming. This is still Actress. IMDb. Redesign also not helping. I don't really know what else that she has written. Okay. Did she write Criminal Minds Behind Borders? Congratulations to first-time screenwriter Nora Garrett on her original, which is being adapted by Luca Guadagnino. And stars Julia Roberts. Julia Roberts plays a college professor, as does Andrew Garfield, Michael Stuhlbarg, Chloe Sevigny, and I believe Iowa Debery is a student or a TA of some kind?

37:26Yes. And there is some suggestion of impropriety. Correct. and things unravel from there. This is obviously a very loaded setting, a loaded topic, a loaded filmmaker. Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross are back for the score of this movie, I will note. Very excited about it. $100 to start our conversation. What's your last favorite Julia Roberts movie? My last favorite? Well, so I'm always glad that she's back in my life. Yeah. so I enjoyed both Leave the World Behind and what was the Ticket to Paradise Ticket to Paradise you know where did you stand on Ben is Back we put it in the Hall of Fame because she's really really really good in that very upsetting movie that's fine sorry if I'm a Julia Roberts completist you know sorry if I've seen it all did you like her performance in Mother's Day oh I actually didn't see that and I thought you were going to say Money Monster how about we do a live watch along in person on Mother's Day.

38:32On Mother's Day? On Mother's Day. Not on Mother's Day. On Father's Day, no problem. Should we do it in Atlanta? No. No, you know, Julia Roberts, also Smyrna, Georgia. That's right. That's my point. Well, my double point. Yeah. I love Julia Roberts. But it is true that she has slowed down. Yeah. Also, when we did the Hall of Fame, there was like a 15-year stretch between, I think it was like maybe Notting Hill and then we didn't put anything I thought she was great in Homecoming she was really good in Homecoming actually listen she's Julia fucking Roberts great in Homecoming you know so I oh I didn't tell you we watched by the way it's$100 so you might want to pick something okay$125 we watched went to the Vidiot's over the weekend to get to rent something okay and Alice pulled Mirror Mirror off the shelf oh boy which speaking of Julia I'd never seen before and And honestly, not bad.

39:30No, she was fine. A movie with a terrible critical reputation, directed by Tarsem Singe, who made The Cell in The Fall, which are both beautiful movies that are somewhat incoherent. That was why The Fall was one of Julia Roberts' Letterboxd 4. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. She loves Tarsem. Yeah. And I thought Mary Jane was not bad. It also is... Who is Cinderella in that? Lily Collins. Oh, it's Lily Collins. And then the Cinderella was Lily James. Correct. Yeah. Lily Collins and Armie Hammer. I do remember that. Who's in the, which Lily is in the Riz Ahmed movie that I think looks good relay?

40:02That's Lily James. Lily James. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. That's the new David McKenzie movie. He of Hell or High Water fame. Okay. Nobody bid on this yet. Nobody. I'm 125. 125. Which is where I am. You're not interested in this because you don't like Julia Roberts and hate college campuses? I just think that it's a fool's errand to go up against the Guadagno twins. You don't really care about Luca. I think he's fine. interesting I liked I liked Challengers okay yeah that's and I like how much he works I'll say 135 I think his prolific 150 is cool yeah you don't but where are you on 165 the peach one well that's call me by your name but what about a bigger splash 175 love that I am love I feel like I liked Luca Guadagnino before he became Luca Guadagnino yeah oh interesting he just punk rocked us yeah yeah yeah yeah well guess what I like at all so um I said 165.

40:59I said 175. 185. Okay. I think this is a big awards contender in what could be a soft year. Now, Luca, he does make sure people are like, I don't like this. Yeah, but that's fine. I always do. 200. Okay. 210. Did you like, he did the Suspiria, right? He did. Did you like that? No, I didn't. Okay. All right. Well, no, not in a mean way. I was just being definitive. Because that story centered women? or what was the issue? There wasn't enough William Walton. 220. 230. 240. Do you think Julia will be better or worse than she was in Larry Crown in this movie? You guys are in the twos for this. So I'm in a 240.

41:41Yeah, I... This is one of the big dramas of the year. I am a lifetime Luca Guadalupe. You are really just stimulating at me and I was just like, you know, this is a Netflix film so the BO is out. No, it's not. It's an Amazon MGM film I'm getting a theatrical release. You have been just like, your disinterest has been wafting towards me. By Julia. And about Luca. And about, you know, men in well-cut suits. Well, you were very dismissive of Danny Villeneuve's early work, you know? That's not true. You should be forced to watch Enemy every six months just so you understand what it's like to be a man in this world.

42:17Do I have it right now? Yeah, I have it. 240 is what I have right now. I'll say 250. 260. I haven't even been using the board. The board is so helpful. Okay. You went right to 260. My goodness. So Andrew Garfield, Monica Barbaro. Where are you guys on this? They were at Wimbledon. They're both in the Sam Albin movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're working together. I know. But did you see? Yes, very dramatically photographed at Wimbledon. Yes. And they were canoodling in the, I don't know if it was the Royal Box or one of the boxes. And Olivia Rodrigo is with a guy or she's just, is she into a tennis player?

42:45There was like a video of her being like, ooh. No, but I think she was there with someone. She was on a date, I think. You're just noting that she was also at Wimbledon. It had nothing to do with Andrew Garfield. I'm just talking about celebrities at Womba Day. There's not a lot of sports on right now. Is that hard for you? I mean, I like the Phillies, but it just takes me a long time to rip up. First place. What's up? I understand that like Sunday night baseball or whatever, and there's like only the one game, but like yesterday at 4.30, the end of a holiday weekend, I like, you know, we try not to put too much screen time for the kids, but like sports don't count.

43:22So I was like, give me something, give me anything. and there was just like nothing on. We got to expand the programming. It's a travel day for baseball. Oh, okay. So usually you get a lot of day games on Sundays so that people can travel on Sunday evenings. I know, but like just for until football starts, you know, there's a window here. I love an afternoon ball game. I agree. I couldn't even get like a restream of the Wimbledon that I wasn't awake for. Might have been a lot of West Coast teams on the East Coast as well. You can get it on ESPN Plus. Oh, okay. But if I don't have that, I'm insulted at this point because of how much I'm paying.

43:58Fair enough. I'm going to let you have that. Oh, thanks so much. Okay, great. I'm so excited. I know that you would like to have that. I really hope that I get to see Julia Roberts on the red carpet at Venice, but I don't want to meet her. I already met her once. It was great and very stressful. And that's enough for a lifetime. She was super normal and nice. She was wonderful. She was the best. But I don't. I was stressed out. I asked her about Larry Crown. She answered my question. Yeah, I asked her about dancing. and store pants. Okay. You now have to have to pick a movie. Okay. Wow. Alright.

44:32So I got the Luca.

44:36Is this like an exciting slate for the rest of the year? What do you think? I'm not seeing a lot of box office pop. Well, that would lead to you having to pick a movie that maybe we're unsure about. Now, I think I had a rule at least for myself that I wouldn't draft something that I've already seen. Right. so that takes a couple things off the board for me okay of note not a lot but it does not take off for example Superman okay or the Fantastic Four I don't think I'm gonna I haven't seen either of those I'm not gonna draft Superman do you think that we're getting away from like just expressing enthusiasm for certain movies if we put too much emphasis on box office no I guess not we're fine um what do you like too much in the game you mean?

45:18yeah no I think it's a component of the show we're doing snake right so I have to do two Jack yeah Jack is nodding oh can you do snake it doesn't matter we don't have to because we're bidding so it's like I'm trying to clarify I don't remember if we did that okay well what would you like to do today Sean let's live in the moment you've just gotten after the hunt I need you to be a little bit kinder in this experience just consider warmth consider reaching out across the aisle from the Marjorie Taylor green seat to the side of good. I don't think that's funny. Unfortunately, you're alone in that.

45:55There are millions at home just thinking of themselves. Who are just laughing. What an accurate. Okay. They're having a good chuckle. Well, I'm glad. Everyone needs laughter, I guess. Okay, let's make it interesting. Wow. A hundred bucks, Avatar, Fire, and whatever. I don't even know the full name. Fire and Ash. Fire and Ash. Okay. I'm going to go buck 20. I never I've never seen an Avatar movie. So why not start? What? Really? I think I saw a little bit of the first one. There's only been two. Yeah. But you didn't go. No. Couldn't care less. It just seems like an incredibly giant waste of resources and talent.

46:34Honestly. The dumbest shit I've ever seen. Is fucking getting Sam Worthington as a six foot five small forward who breathes underwater. Give me a fucking break. Are you kidding me? This is one of the greatest filmmakers we've ever seen. Who has wasted his fucking life making these movies. Uh-huh. The dumbest fucking idea. Thank you. I agree with this. I'm 47. I don't have the time to learn all this new shit. One Sony, but also yes. But I need a box office hit. So I'm going to go 140. And I'm going to see this. I'm going to see Fire and Ash because I am - But you're not going to see the other two.

47:14I've become more interested in Fire the older I get. And Ash. So I think that also, who's new in this? Winslet, was she in the last one? She was. She's in the last one. She broke the world record for holding her breath. But you think that these movies are stupid, but you haven't seen any of them. I know what they're about, though. I've seen most of one. Can you guess what the world is? You love James Cameron. You wouldn't even try it? This is a fucking giant betrayal of his - You haven't seen the movie! Okay, fine, Sean. Is it good? Of course it's good. Okay, outside of the visual aspect, Like the technological achievement.

47:49I mean, they're ecological fables. It's fun. We like the earth. What do you think the world record is for holding her breath? Seven minutes. Seven minutes, 15 seconds. Okay. I was hoping you would guess like three minutes. I usually get... Seven minutes is a long time. Is take what you can do and multiply it by three. Okay. So you can do two minutes, you think? Yeah. Oh, God. I couldn't get close to that at this point. Yeah. It's been a while, but I think I could do two minutes. I got to tell you. so I do like test it out I know bring in the water water board Chris no but I do the you know the ice cubes yeah the thing yeah the Paul Newman thing because you're hungover no well I started doing it when I was pregnant for skin health very swollen um but but no wellness just takes over all the cool shit I agree this is for guys who want to drink nine scotches this is not for women to glow on YouTube it is suddenly we got at like a 9, 30 a.m.

48:46record time. I'm like, fuck, I'm 40. I'm on YouTube. I need to dunk my head in a bucket of ice water. But I couldn't even make it to counting to 30 this morning. Now, it is very cold. It's cold water. It is true. It's different. So you think you can do two minutes at like average? I think so. Okay. I think so. What did you think of the fact that William Holden's face looked like an old shoe in The Wild Bunch? Just like a guy who'd been left in the sun for several years. I also forgot that I forgot about the flashback scenes in Wild Bunch and the fact that they're like, let's just shave his mustache.

49:15That means he's young. There's a black like pomade in his hair, you know, that like shoe shine. Okay. Is it 140? Yeah. 140. I'll say 150. I mean, these movies are good. They're obviously very flawed by the simplistic nature of the fable. He says that, but that seems unlikely. But now he's also making, you know, Oppenheimer 2. Yeah. Ghost of Pirashima. I'll do 170. so you you're not gonna watch the first two films but you will watch this one well maybe it's gonna be confusing it'll be a good fall project is to get into i i think i got it broadly you know that human beings are jacked into this fucking different world right right they have like a little thing in their back i don't want to spoil it for you i mean things evolve around the technology is what i'll tell you all right so the second one is more surfing underwater right yeah An aspect of it, yes.

50:11Yeah, and then the third one we're going to go... What is the other aspect? The people from Earth who want to take over the land. Which is Giovanni Ribisi. Oh, I forgot about them. Yeah. It's Ribisi, whatever. Yeah, Ribisi. And Sigourney? Is she good? She is. Yeah. Well, but yeah, I don't want to... But there's something complicated that, you know, it's weird. The second one is quite strange and really good, but also not rewatchable. Okay, I'll watch it for the first time. Can you watch it on one of the things? Apple Vision Pro? Those still happening? You can still buy them, but they didn't really take off as a consumer product.

50:45It was pretty heavy. You need to get a neck support. Okay. So do you need a second box? We need two box office hits? Well, the old rules were you needed two movies to gross more than$100 million. Okay. But the only way to score points now is to have a high grosser. Now, this is a good pick. I'll say 180, by the way. This would be a good pick because these movies always make a billion dollars. They always make hundreds of millions of dollars in the United States. but he has sinners he has sinners but he needs another well it's just a point total I think also the fact that there's a lot of like streaming stuff or a lot of the the critic stuff as Sean pointed out with Netflix might not get any box office who knows like it could come and go like one of the problems of those streaming stream movies is sometimes it's like oh it's it just happened it's just out yes you also gotta consider what's gonna be the highest grossing domestic film I'll do 190 yeah I'll say 200.

51:40I think we should, I mean, this is an important movie to the movie year. Not to Cameron's Legacy or anything, but these movies always get a ton of Academy Award nominations. I think it would be more helpful for him for the Academy Awards if he promised this would be the last one. And it would be more helpful to me. That's fair. Okay. Because it's a big difference between me being like I'll catch up on three of these and have a more well informed opinion versus this is going to be a fiver. Because I'm out. So this is kind of similar to where the first two Lord of the Rings movies were, in my opinion.

52:16Where the last film got best picture and then just sound, production, design, and visual effects. Will this movie get more nominations? Less? Is it actually a serious contender for picture? I don't know. Are you out? You didn't see the footage from this, right? No, I laughed. You were like, it's mind-blowing, right? I mean, I thought it was fucking amazing. Now, I already like these movies and I love them visually. but obviously fire is a different element applied to the story and I thought it just looked really, really cool. So I'm very excited about this. I'll go 210. Guess I'll go 220? I'll say 230.

52:51I'll do 240. Oh. I'll do 250. This is a movie I want to see. There's actually not a ton of movies on this list that I'm like, I really want to see this in a big movie theater. I mean, if we're applying that, then I don't really I don't really want to see it that much I mean I will I'm sure that's not the only metric I'm just saying for me personally I like to have movies on my slate that I want to see I respect Big Jim but also you know I'm kind of with Chris on this I just like also how much time we've collectively spent would you be like if he was making another Alien movie would you be happy about that?

53:28I guess True Lies 2? So? I mean it's like think of the alternative he created new IP this is a new story sure does anybody like oh I can't wait to iterate off of the Avatar story no I just mean it's an original event movie it's the hardest thing to do in the world what happens with their brains that's how they communicate and mate they merge that is how they mate yeah I knew that part probably because I told you one time when we were about to watch a movie about two guys getting ready to kill each other so here's what happens Chris like their hair like intertwines yeah I'll happily take this movie for$250.

54:07$260. Okay. You're going to get annoyed because you think I'm beating you up, but I'm not. I am interested. You put it on the board. Yeah. I'll say$270. I would like to see it. How many noms did the first film get?

54:20$275, but you're going to jump up there. Nine nominations from the first film. Not so many for the second? $280, I'll say. You're what's wrong with Hollywood, though. What do you mean? I'm what's wrong with Hollywood? Yeah. You just proclaimed that Jurassic World Rebirth was good publicly. I didn't say it was good. I said it was not bad and I had fun. Yeah, fun, which is code for I've turned my brain off and I expect less. Yeah, but you do that all the time. It's just when you do it about genre movies that you like, it's fine. Yeah, they call it taste. And when I do it. It's called taste. I have the best taste of anyone you know.

55:02it's like it's actually incredible how good my taste is do you think you I don't want to get into this actually so I'll do 290 ooh 300 well I'll step out I'll step there I wanted to get you high high up there not 3000 come on guys 300 okay um congratulations to you thank you thank you I feel good about this I feel like I needed this okay I don't really have another So I need to do another one. Big box office winner. I don't, maybe it'll get good reviews. Wait, who put up Avatar? Him? No, I did. You did. But do I have the stake or not? I don't care. No, you got it. Are there two or they're not?

55:43It's fine. You're right. You're, you're, you're doing a great job so far. Thank you so much. Like, obviously, they have the best taste of any human being on planet Earth.

55:56I just, you know. So Avatar had an 83 Metacritic score, and Avatar The Way of Water had a 67 Metacritic score. Yeah, you think it's going to rebound? Probably not, but you never know. Hopefully it's on the 50s. What should I do? I mean, some of these movies look good, you know? It's a bold stance. I'm open to them.

56:21let's see did you see the Knicks are strongly considering Ben Simmons Oh my God. Good luck with that. Really? LOL. That's funny. Even I know that's funny. Even I know that guy doesn't show up to work. You guys are getting dacked up a little too much right now. Oh. Yeah. Don't get too ahead of yourselves. As someone who's been there, presumptive Eastern Conference finalists, etc. As I recall, you have not been to the Eastern Conference finals. Just enjoy what happened last year is all I'm saying. Okay. Yeah. What's this Rami Malek movie? I mean, not that I'm going to check. Should I pull up the movies?

56:53Oh my God. I'm really not going to do that. The contracts of your biggest stars? Yeah, I'm well aware. We're in a transition phase. We're moving towards a younger generation of players while still having some veteran leadership in the building.

57:08$75, roof man. Roof man. Yeah. Derek C. and Fritz. Yeah. Yeah. They put a lot of this movie in the trailer. I'm just going to say that. Okay. I felt like. Yeah. But I thought it looked cool and fun. And I love Derek C. and Fritz a lot. everything from his Dick's Sporting Goods commercials to Place Beyond the Pines. So I'm going to bid 80 bucks. Okay. $85. This will almost certainly be a fun time at the movies. Will it be a good time at the movies? Oh boy, here we go. We don't know. Concern troll Sean. We don't know. I think so. Yeah. Good star. Channing Tatum. Good cast. Kirsten Dunst. It was Chris who did 85, right?

57:47Kirsten Dunst. Yeah. Chris was 85? I think Chris went to 80 and I went to 85. Oh, you went to 85? Oh, great. Oh, that was fast. 90, sure. Kirsten Dunst. Yes. Who's the other guy? Jenny Tatum. Is there another guy in it? No, I believe it's... Oh my God. Tyrion from Lord of the Rings. Oh, Dinklage. Dinklage. Not Lord of the Rings from Game of Thrones. Peter Dinklage is in it. Who else? Ben Mendelsohn is in it? Of course. Of course. Gotta be in him. Lakeith Stanfield, Juno Temple. Ben Mendelsohn in Place Beyond the Pines. Holy shit, man. Yeah. yeah the only thing that's better is him and killing me softly that's true um did you ever watch Andor?

58:30no remember you were going to watch that on the plane when you went to Atlanta? no what happened? what'd you watch on the plane instead? uh I had no internet on the way there and I forgot to download it okay um I probably watched a movie on the seat yeah I'm trying to think of what I could probably look it up if you'd like if you'd like to vamp um Okay, but so it wasn't Andor. I haven't done Andor yet either. I have a lot of catch up. The less said about my trip to Atlanta, the better, in my opinion. Except for the lovely people that you met, right? Honestly, the people were awesome. I really had a nice time chatting with strangers there, but everything else was bad.

59:08I got to do Andor. I'm behind on Andor just like that. Did you finish the bear? No, I got to finish the bear. You know what I watched? I got to tell you something, Amanda. Honestly, go ahead. Snow White. Okay. We have to have a serious conversation about what's going on with Carrie and Miranda on this fucking show. Okay, I know. I have to catch up, but it almost got spoiled for me. Apparently, they've killed someone twice now or something. I don't really know what's going on. There are plot holes. Listen, I'm going to do it tonight. He is going to see the new Spike Lee film with my husband and I am staying home preparing a zucchini pasta and watching it just like that.

59:40Okay. Women can't have it all. Maybe I'll do a face mask. I honestly was thinking about it. It's maybe time for my Manuka Honey face mask again. It's a huge night. It was incredible. A real Roofman night. $95 for Roofman. You don't have feelings? I think Roofman will get any Oscar noms. I don't know where I'm at with Channing right now. He's actually weirdly in what I'll call the Statham zone, which is that he has a fan base that will kind of get him to$30 million at the box office pretty much every time out. He's like, yeah, I made a movie with the dog. People are like, I like that. That seems cool.

1:00:18in this movie he plays a bank robber who's incarcerated breaks out and then holes up hides out in a Toys R Us yeah Toys R Us probably the single most exciting place in the universe to me from the ages of 1 to 9 were you a Toys R Us person Chris Ryan I was wow see I knew I knew that this was yeah I was until you discovered hip hop what toys did you like lifeguarding Star Wars dolls like Star Wars action figures I will I'll do$100 for Roofman. Listen, and that's all for Kiki. $99 of my$100 is for Kirsten Dentst. Okay. And then the other one is... But she didn't support her in Civil War. Interesting how that shook out.

1:01:01Well, I think that Alex Garland didn't support her, you know? Yes, he did. He cast her and... It's true. He put her in the biggest box office hit of her career. Is that true? Even bring it on? Definitely bigger than bring it on. Let's look. Rude. well bring it on as more of a cult hit that's true but what an achievement it is was she ever in a big franchise movie she must have been are we giving this to Amanda uh sure okay well of course she was in Spider-Man what am I thinking yeah you got two of the movies that I feel like are very you you thank you oriented you quoted thank you so much I guess Sean then you're up uh yes I'm up she was all she was in here are her biggest box office hits just for the sake of conversation the three Spider-Man movies of course Hidden Figures in which she supported...

1:01:47Yeah, she's the racist administrator at NASA. Kirsten Dunst is a racist? In that movie? In the movie. In the movie. And then, but then Glenn Powell as John Glenn is not. This is really interesting. You know where she wasn't racist? And Kevin Costner is on the case. And then... So, you were right about something. Interview with the vampire comes next. Yeah. Then Jumanji. Yeah. Then Civil War. Yeah. But only by$400 ,000 about bringing it on. Okay. And is that adjusted for inflation? No. It is not. But you got to, if you want to consider international. I'm bitching great hair. The boys all love to stare.

1:02:24That's right. Yeah. Incredible film. When will you show it to Alice? When can I show it to Alice? That feels a little early. Okay. I would say for bringing it on. Sure. She turns four this week. Yeah, but I forget lessons, you know? Yeah, absolutely. I support them. What were your favorite toys? Set Toys R Us. So Star Wars, that's it? BMX bikes.

1:02:48okay uh-huh do you know what a tamagotchi is i do okay you don't have to say it like no i just do all right have you started introducing those to the house no jack didn't know so i had to explain what tamagotchi are you know about little boo-boos i heard it referenced recently i don't know what that is though so it's a bag charm that's like but they're beanie baby like level prices and interest. Kids put stuff on Crocs and bags now. Yeah, yeah. Charms I saw. Yeah, that's all over the place. It's a lot. This episode is brought to you by State Farm. Life's full of decisions, big and small, and sometimes you make one you can really stand behind.

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1:03:52Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and eligibility vary by state. I'm putting weapons on the board. Remember when we used to wear Jordans instead of Crocs? You know? Used to. Still wearing Jordans. Knox has Jordans. He hasn't shown you his Jordans? No. He likes to say Jordans, but the way he says R is very weird still. because he's my son. He's like, I'm wearing Jordans. That's Michael Jordan. I'll have to speak to him about that. $50 for weapons. $150. Wow. $150. Here we go. Come on. This is the second, I guess technically the third feature film from Zack Greger. First since Barbarian.

1:04:31This is the movie I'm most excited to see. Not one battle after another, but otherwise. This is number one. Yeah. After one battle after another. Yeah, number two. I see. Not Springsteen delivering me from nowhere. We'll talk about that in a bit. $200. Okay, game on. Did you check out the viral website that they made for this? I did not. I didn't yet either. Oh, let's do it right now. Weapons movie website. Well, just two guys trying to stay in a state of wonder. I was super mad when the trailer started for this. I'm not trying to stay in a state of wonder. Oh, hold on. this I honestly can't I'm really sorry like it's this is I'm sure it's a really good movie no disrespect to Zach Greger just like no thanks topic wise $225 okay I think that you're you're both if this pops you handle your your issues in different ways and that's okay what issues I just want to be excited I just want to be sit down and feel I want to be dominated yeah by film yes yeah alright Zach Kreger put on a high heel and step on Chris's neck uh 225 is that what I have yes where does he go after this if this is if this blows up he already signed up to do Resident Evil that's cool he's doing Resident Evil is Mikey Madison in that um I believe she what did she turn she turned down Star Wars for that to do that is that true I mean I think in the Star Wars movie she was just gonna be like looking at Ryan Gosling and being like you're so cool well show me the lie would you do that they're not gonna rush when i stare at sean levy calls you i would giggle i like i couldn't do it i would just giggle if it were ryan gosley monday 9 a.m yeah you've just removed your face from an ice cold bowl you reek of zucchini from the night before you're covered in pasta children are crawling all over you and sean levy says right Good morning, Amanda.

1:06:36Yes. I'm glad you have awoken. You may still feel as though you were sleeping because I am the dream weaver. You have such beautiful skin. Thank you. We think you would be great next to Ryan Gosling. You will only be on your knees for the entirety of this film. What? Okay. But you will be genuflecting in the general direction of our star Jedi, Ryan Gosling, in the first new Star Wars feature film in seven years. Two follow-up questions. Am I allowed to ask follow-up questions of Sean Levy? I don't know how he negotiates. Does Sean Levy not answer questions? I'm not sure. Is it like a Miranda Priestly situation?

1:07:10I don't know. I can't say for sure. Number one, where? Where are we filming? Probably Turkey or like, Hungary. Hungary. Hungary. Hungary. No, in England. We're shooting in England. Pinewood. Yeah, we're shooting at Pinewood. Okay, open to that. Number two, what's, you know, what's the money? Your salary is 88 bucks. Interesting. Money talks for you, huh? Yeah. No. Your salary is whatever is remaining from your draft slate. No, your salary is more than scale, but less than an A-list star. Yeah. Okay. You're getting$800 ,000 to do this, but you have to turn over two plus years of your lives, including reshoots.

1:07:51So$800 ,000 for two years. So$400 ,000 a year. If you want to break it down like that, sure. That's not how it works in the movie biz. I understand that but that is how listen I'm I'm you need to I'm business mom okay so then you've got to promote the film 10 % to your representation you know right you gotta talk me through 10 % that's low are you handling all of my kids and like my family's like housing you don't have leverage to negotiate well then no okay you're turning it down on the face of that yeah I can't go to I can't go stare at Ryan Gosling for two years without my children? It's a great time because I've just gotten word that in Atlanta, they will greenlight the Mother's Day screening that we discussed because of your response to that question.

1:08:39So congratulations. Well done. $2.50? $2.60. We're still bidding on weapons. $2.70. I'd really like to see it. I would like to show it to me. I don't know why I haven't been shown this film. I'm just going to put that out there right now. Okay. Did you ever watch Ozark? No. But I listened to you talk about it quite a bit. You know the Julia Garner meme? Which one? If you want to stop me, you're going to have to fucking kill me. Yeah, I do. 275. Just a little jab right in the chin. Right there. Not big. Just like testing my distance. You're just going to draw me out. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And you're hoping that I go for the uppercut only for you to shadow, duck and move.

1:09:22Mike Tyson's knockout. Punch out. I'm just thinking about like what number I would leave my children for. Well, you know, at some point. Do you think about that every day? No, no, no. At some point then like I can handle the, if they give me enough money, then I'll just pay for all of this stuff, you know? But I don't know. If Luca Guadino is like Amanda, steal Magnolias too. Julia Roberts comes back as a forced ghost. The problem is I'll pay you$2 million, but you have to live in Atlanta for two years. Oh, yeah. And it's you and Casey Musgraves. Okay. I mean, she seems like a great head. And Julia Garner are the new Steel Magnolias.

1:10:02I love the Casey Musgraves call. That's excellent. But you also have, you can't see your children. But in Atlanta, they would just stay with their grandparents. No. Oh, no. It's a close set. Yeah. No. Because it's a close set, so. It's very secretive. Yeah. Codename Star Wars. Yeah. But it's actually the Steel Magnolias. Two. 285. 300. You really want this film. What if you don't like it? It's not possible. It's about fucked up kids. Those kids are fucked up. Yeah. Do we even know that? They run around like this, right? Well, something was calling to them, clearly. I don't know what it was. Last night at 2.17 a.m., every child from Mrs.

1:10:47Gandy's class woke up, got out of bed, went downstairs, opened the front door, walked into the dark, and they never came back. Yeah. you know what that reminds me of this movie is good but not great but when I first saw the commercial on TV for Needful Things the Stephen King adaptation I felt alive that was like one of the first times I can remember feeling like I need to see that now and I probably didn't see it for some years because it was R-rated and I was like 10 when it came out but this movie gives me a similar feeling to that commercial 310 wow 320 yeah

1:11:27okay 325 335 are you guys gonna be able to see this together hopefully I think that's the idea that's nice at 217 a.m. they should do a 217 a.m. screening I'm gonna be on Steel Magnolias too

1:11:46217 a.m. screening yeah that's the only time I am able to sleep so I really can't do it then I thought about going to see Jurassic World Rebirth, the 12 a.m. screening last week when we were doing that. Okay. And I was just like, I don't think I can do that. I don't want to get out of Jurassic World at 2.45 a.m. It's crazy. As recently as two years ago, I was ripping midnight screenings, and I just can't do it anymore. It's over. Yeah. It's curtains. It's like kid plus aging. It's just fertile. It's okay. We used to have a stop clock on these. Yeah, we're hanging out. It's okay. Okay. There's a clock right there.

1:12:20345. 345, Chris. Chris is like, I want this. 355.

1:12:29He's getting me back for bidding him up on Avatar. 365. I think you both just really want this, and I think that's beautiful. This is among my most anticipated movies of the year. $400. It looked very good. Wow,$400. Well, I mean, what else are you going to bid on? Wicked for Good? I won't bid. Can you believe we have to do Wicked for Good this year? I really cannot. do you think that that's gonna be like the avatar 2 of wicked movies where it's just like we just agree that we're not gonna do it again this year it's like are they gonna really go through the same promo cycle again and they're gonna play with puppies and talk and cry I think obviously the core fan base is extremely excited about it and it's gonna do good business will it be bigger than the last movie is an interesting question and then will it be able to match did it have 10 nominations maybe more Right.

1:13:19You know, and the buzz on it is of course that the second half of the musical songs aren't as good. And it's just... They should take some songs from Nebraska and put it in Wicked for Good. That's a good idea. Yeah. State Trooper. Yeah. That fit in really well. Prince Fierro sings State Trooper. That'd be awesome. You know, I did think Jonathan Bailey was very good in Jurassic World. He was very good. I agree with you. So there you go. I was impressed with him. I felt like he had real incredible movie presence. Totally. 410. 420. because I'm going to get high watching weapons if you know what I mean yeah you're smoking on that weapons pack yeah 430 interesting this is fun yeah I think you know that there's no limit for me and I think you're driving me up but for me the action is the juice 440 440 $440 for weapons yeah you had 420 or 430 445 okay but he's showing weakness

1:14:24uh 465 wow you can have it okay alright can I tell you something this was smart thanks past drafts or auctions have taught us that we should really we should spend the money on what we care about and you know what I've gotten I've done before is where like I'm like I'm just gonna equally distribute $50 across five movies so I'm happy I'm really happy with the two films I have so far I could have used a little more help from you but personally how so we'll get there when we get there but it's okay I support you I needed you to take out some cash flow from him but it's fine it's fine like push up Avatar more no I needed if he only had $300 left I would be in a better spot oh I'm sorry but it's okay yeah is it my turn to pick a film I believe it is I really want to see this movie.

1:15:16I do not think it's a good movie for this game. Okay. Which is not a demerit. And to Chris's point about are we leaning too much into the box office to suggest quality or something. This movie is the perfect example of probably will not, almost certainly will not cross $100 million domestically. Could be wrong, but probably not. Will not have an 85 Metacritic score because it's horror. And very low likelihood of Oscars. Now, if it gets any of those three things, that probably means it's like fucking amazing. Right. If it goes over 100 million or over 85 or it gets at least one Oscar nomination, that will mean, you know, we have a new M.

1:15:55Night Shyamalan on our hands. Yeah. Which would be phenomenal. I would love that. So we'll see. But nevertheless, we'll do two hours locked in on the movie in August. Is it my turn to pick a film? It is. I'm going to grab or I'm going to nominate Is This Thing On? Okay. Is this going to come out this year? They say, Wikipedia says that Fox Searchlight is eyeing a fall release. We have not heard Heider Hair, Norcina still from it. Bradley Cooper's, James L. Brooks homage, it sounds like. It's about a divorcing couple or a couple whose marriage is falling apart. And the man, the husband, played by Will Arnett, gets super into the New York City comedy scene.

1:16:38Features a bunch of supporting turns from contemporary New York City-based comedians like Jordan Jensen, Chloe Radcliffe, Laura Dern is in this. Bradley Cooper is playing a supporting role and directed it and wrote it with Will Arnett, right? Yes. This sounds like his punchline. That's exactly what I have in my doc! Oh my God. That's beautiful. Yeah. Tom Hanks, Sally Field, dramedy. Yeah. That I would say is now underrated. was eagerly anticipated, considered a huge disappointment, and now is kind of an interesting character study. Brad Cooper, I think a damn good filmmaker. And it's a really interesting left turn after Maestro.

1:17:20Yeah. Yeah. Because he could keep making these sort of great men movies until he finally gets his Oscars. So, okay. How do you know this is in a different type of... He's a broken man. Sure. Who's trying to laugh his way... Yeah, maybe he's going to find his greatness, you know? What do you think would be your biggest new, like your, your most unexpected new hobby where you, God forbid to get divorced? That's an incredible question. I mean, don't you kind of, I feel like I'm. Like WNBA? You mean like not playing, but. You should become a WNBA ref.

1:18:00I mean the thing is is that my sister-in-law Ruthie our beloved Ruthie is like a huge season ticket holder yeah season ticket holder so in the divorce if it's an ugly one I kind of feel like you get Ruthie? no no I think that the Barons get the WNBA oh I see that's kind of what I think okay you know I mean I could be wrong WNBA is going to go crazy in my house is it? it's going to go crazy yeah I do feel like I'm in a phase of life where I'm already, it's like I'm doing the divorce hobbies without the divorce. Oh. Don't you think? You don't think so? Skincare? I hope you, you mean not. Oh, no, I don't mean that.

1:18:38I don't mean those extra-curricular things. Yeah, no, just to be clear. Carefully navigate our phrasing. We are good. Just you and me. Okay. No, I'm going to really get into polyamory, you know? Yeah. No, I haven't told you about my like infrared box workout? Yes, you have. Yeah, see, so that sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know for ads too. Did you put a dollar amount on is this thing on? 50 bucks. Okay. I don't know whether it would be stand-up comedy, but maybe I could get into a performance space, you know? I would pay, honestly, no less than$10 ,000 to watch you do stand-up comedy.

1:19:22You doing crowd work would cause an actual civil disturbance. The first time you got heckled, your fucking head would explode. I would like charge the crowd. It would be like a reversible shit. You're right. Don't let me fucking walk out of here with Bradley Cooper's follow-up to Maestro. I'll say 60 bucks. Did you see Maestro? Yeah. Did you? Yeah. We never discussed it. I thought it was maybe an Avatar situation. everyone assumed you'd seen it I'll do 65 I think I've been pretty open about my skepticism of the Na 'vi tale this is not like new but I am now frustrated and it didn't really appreciate the shots of Nolan I thought like that was honestly poor form make your own fucking movie let's see let's try to like wow yeah wow you have really thrown down the gauntlet on being Jim former guest of this show one of my favorite filmmakers up until you started making imaginary underwater movies do you like Titanic I thought it was pretty good.

1:20:24I thought it was pretty good. It's a long way to get to that sink and ship. You know what I mean? You got to deal with a lot of stuff. Yeah, but you learned a lot. I knew it. Okay. I inherently understood the challenges of the Irish. How do you feel about class at that time? Do they think we had it right? What about art? Oh, like him drawing her? Well, no. She was a collector, you know? But Billy Zane didn't understand. That's right. dedicated that to memory. I'm drawing her. She's making a return. Pay Me Like One of Your French Girls is one of the great memes. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Yeah. That's how I feel about VJ Edgecombe painting him and scored 28 in Summer League.

1:21:10Where are we? Amanda has$65 on Is This Thing On? So Searchlight does not really have a major Oscar contender this year other than this movie if they decide to put it out. except maybe I don't think this is going to happen but the new Martin McDonough movie is I think I think the script is done I it may have started shooting I can't really tell it's called Wild Horse 9 and the cast is Sam Rockwell Malkovich Steve Buscemi Parker Posey and Tom Waits geez is he going back back on his Seven Psychopaths bullshit it's a thriller it's not a comedy cool 70 bucks what's up with the James L. Brooks movie is that ever coming out December yeah Ella McKay hey yeah okay that's 20th century studios oh okay not Searchlight even though it feels like a Searchlight movie um I don't I don't I really enjoy the two movies that Cooper directed me too I think my story was like flawed but like such a fascinating choice me too I really wish that that movie would be released on physical media.

1:22:22Okay. The first time that you've said that. You should go to his cheese steak restaurant and ask him. I was joking. Do you think that Bradley Cooper is into physical media? I think he's into collecting stuff. Okay. So I think he would get it. All right. Maestro was beautifully shot. It's very beautiful. You know what the standing ovation was for Maestro at Venice? because it was during the strike, so... He couldn't be there. He couldn't be there, so it was just Leonard Bernstein's children conducting along for six minutes while the credits rolled. That's cool. I mean, sure. I'm going to let you have this.

1:23:01Yeah. Fuck. Okay. I'm fucking killing this. You've got a streaming movie. You've got a horror movie for$500. It's going to go beyond horror. You know this. You know in your bones that we've been waiting for a movie like this to jump out. Undated Bradley Cooper stand-up comedy dramedy starring Will Arnett, known box office hero. Okay. Well, call me next year. And mobile entrepreneur. You know? That's true. Yeah. And successful podcast host. That's true. And his performance in Arrested Development is the funniest comedy performance of the century. So I have nothing bad to say about him. Joe Bluth is the best character on TV in this century.

1:23:45Okay. is it me? Yeah. Wait. You go twice. Oh, I go twice? Another one, yeah.

1:23:56I'm going to do

1:24:02I'm going to do Now You See Me, Now You Don't, aka NYSM3, which I think actually might be a sneaky big box office movie. Okay. Have you seen either of the first Now You See Me films. I have not. I have multiple times. Yes. One of the great I've seen clips I think. Great plane franchises. Okay. If you are on a plane you will find that the hours slip away watching NYSM. Okay. Close up magic. Yeah. Illusions. Flat twists. I'd like to read a message I received a mention I received on x.com yesterday. It's from a man named David Corsero. Okay. Not Superman not Superman that's David Corn Sweat aka Corn Sweeper as I believe you dubbed him some years ago during the release of the film Twister Twisters David Corcero says anyone have at Sean Fennessey's email address I'm trying to invite him to the Magic Castle in early August oh wow I have not responded to this man I am calling him out right here on this podcast he is a magician who does close up magic and is performing will you take me at the Magic Castle since I just nominated Now You See Me 3 I certainly would the Magic Castle one of the most fun places in Los Angeles.

1:25:15And I'm very interested in Now You See Me, colon Now You Don't. What are you bidding? $30. Wow. Value pick. Will you catch up on these films? You want me to tell you? When is it coming out? It's August, right? It looks, when you watch this, and I mean this in a really, the sweetest way I could possibly say this, it seems like Jesse Eisenberg has had a brain transplant when he's in these movies. Like, it is so unlike anything else he does. But he likes doing them, right? I think so. Yeah. He loves doing them. This movie comes out November 14th. Oh, wow. It's right up against Wicked for Good and Zootopia 2.

1:25:54Okay. The cast, are you familiar with this? Do you know the premise of this one? Well, I do know that Dave Franco is in it because of, I mean, I remember that, but his studio... He throws playing cards at people. Okay. What movie is that in where someone throws playing cards at people? That's what Gambit does. Channing Tatum, the X-Men. X-Men. He powers them up. Maybe we're not allowed to talk about this movie yet. Oh, yeah. No, in F1. F1. Yeah, okay. I didn't know. Like, they all blur together. Oh, like into a hat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It goes into a hat. Dave Franco plays Jack Wilder. I know, and he talks about it on his studio recap.

1:26:31Jesse Eisenberg plays J. Daniel Atlas. Danny Atlas. Danny Atlas. Kind of an homage to Danny Ocean. And then Woody Harrelson plays Merritt McKinney. And Hila Fisher is now... Isla Fisher has been in all the films. Lizzie Kaplan was in one of them. She was in two. She was in two. She's the Catherine Zeta-Jones. The thing with this one is that there's new young magicians on their heels, and they are portrayed by future movie stars. Justice Smith. Okay. Ariana Greenblatt from Barbie. Yeah. And Dominic Sessa. Oh, good. Oh, I do remember that film updates, which is like Dominic Sessa has joined the cast of.

1:27:09Okay, so are they just magicians? are they magicians who fight crime are they magicians who commit crimes they commit crimes but they're like Robin Hoods they like rob a casino vault and then throw the cash to people that's cool yeah you know okay you have it right now for$30 are you bidding on this? I'm not sure yet

1:27:34Jack just like disappeared I thought this was going to be like a funnier bit and now it's just like me having nice so you guys are going to go to Magic Castle together I think that we have been before. I went with you. Yeah. That was very fun. That was some years ago. Yeah. I think it was very early. Yeah. When you just moved here. So almost 10 years ago. Ruben Fleischer directed this movie. Okay. He directed Jesse Eisenberg to great acclaim in Zombieland. Yes. Yeah. The first two are Louis Leterrier. Yes. Right. And he has pivoted to Fast 11. Oh. Oh. Which is definitely happening. Is Ruffalo in MYSM 3?

1:28:10no I don't think so if he is they're not revealing that oh but that would be exciting I wonder if Melanie Melanie Laurent is coming back she's dynamite yeah Rosamund Pike is the villain in this movie oh shit are you sure you don't want to go 35 yeah this is her the description she needs this because they canceled her Wheel of Time money you know so she plays Veronica how many letters is Zach written

1:28:37Yasi Salak also a fan I learned so Zach of time. So Zach and Yassi are starting a letter writing campaign. Yassi also came out as a very loud proponent of materialists and she said she went to go see it because you compared it to Hal Hartley on the podcast and she agreed. Many people have been like shut the fuck up you don't know what you're saying but that's okay. Rosamund Pike plays Veronica Vanderberg as the main antagonist and matriarch of the crime syndicate. Oh, is it the crime syndicate that they work for or they're they're stealing from the crime syndicate to give money back to In the trailer, she's holding a diamond, and she's like, but the diamond is safe.

1:29:13And then Jesse Eisenberg goes like, poof. And then it shatters in her hands. It's a great moment. Fucking love movies, man. This is kind of firmly in the potential Jurassic World rebirth zone, where it's fun, but it's kind of evil. And maybe it shouldn't exist. We'll see. Are you bidding on it? $35.

1:29:33Are you going to bid on it? No, but I'm really enjoying learning about this. I kind of want to keep bidding, but I also don't have anything else to say about it. I just want to say this is the best movie podcast. There are many movie podcasts, but only one of them will give you all of this. Okay. It's true. It's true. It's true. You're not going to take this for$36.

1:29:56You can have it. Okay. All right. That's good, I guess. Yeah. Okay. Okay. It's your turn. You have$700 left, Sean. I have such a normal draft this year usually I have like$900 yeah yeah well yeah you went big on weapons and that was a move for$1 I'll put Superman on the board okay I really I understand you're doing this from a strategy perspective because you think it'll do well box office which in our other game I'm banking on and you're open to superheroes and... What I said, I was talking with... Rachel Brosnahan. With Chris and Andy Greenwald outside right before the recording. Great. And Andy said, have you seen it?

1:30:45I said, no. And I said, on the one hand, I haven't loved what I've seen as we've discussed. I think the most recent trailer is by far the best one they put out, but the first two I really didn't like very much and we had kind of a weird experience watching them sell it at CinemaCon. However, there's pretty much not a James Gunn movie I don't like. Yeah. I like every movie he's ever made, frankly. So if I don't like it, it will be surprising to me. Yeah. So I guess you're still in the mix. I'm not going to be bidding on this. I mean, I can bid on this. I can say$5, but. Sure. You don't want your$2.64 going in that direction.

1:31:21No, I don't. Okay. I have another hero in mind. Oh, wow. Do you? Yeah. Okay. And Roof Man's off the board. Here is the thing. is that I really don't like James Gunn movies. Like I just really, and we all know that. I'm allergic to it. I know, but you hate me making a really strong strategic move. No, but I also have fears of you thinking it's funny and sticking me with it. So, and then getting something that I really want. But like, I also know I should bid you up, but we all know that I just... It's win-win for me. I, you know, it's, that's great. Congratulations. for you, I guess. Whatever. I mean, the movie could be terrible and could bomb miserably.

1:32:07Yeah, but even if it bombs, it'll make$100 million domestic. Almost certainly. Yeah, it's going to make$100 million in the opening weekend. That, okay. What do you think it's missing? I don't want to bid on it. I know you want to make me bid on it, but I just, I don't. I'll bid$50. You already have it for$5 right now. Don't bid yourself up. All right, well, he's going to bid. He was going to bid$6. I just can't see him get it for$6. $6. Okay. All right.

1:32:37$50. Because if I did get it, well, I mean, that's good for me, right? It's going to do box office. That's the thing. Yeah, definitely. $51. Okay.

1:32:52Are you excited about Predator Badlands? I'm excited to talk to you about it as soon as it comes up on the board. Yeah. But we got to sort out the Superman situation first. I just, I don't know what it is, man. I don't know what it is. Are you big on James Gunn? I like the first Guardians. Okay. I think Sean likes him more than me. Yeah. Yeah. It's not a personal thing. Please don't tweet at me, James Gunn. Yeah. You're really more Zack Snyder. That's what you're interested in. I would say that Zack Snyder's Dawn of the Dead is my favorite film either Zack Snyder or James Gunn. You know who wrote the screenplay of Dawn of the Dead?

1:33:30James Gunn? James Gunn. Maybe they should be like Garland and Boyle. Together. Stronger together. It's been suggested in the past that that would have been the most useful way to pursue Superman, which is to take Zack Snyder's visual sensibility and let James Gunn write the screenplay for him. That didn't happen. They both had to get a crack at it. I would like to have seen James Gunn writing 300. I mean, I was just thinking about like, what would be better or worse for me? Would it be the two of them making Superman? Together? Yeah, together. Or I'm subjected to all their different individual versions.

1:34:09$55, by the way. And then all their other projects. We're just going to go ones. Did you see Guardians of the Galaxy 3? I mean, you don't want this. You should just let me have it. Would you do that for me? Of course I would. Of course I would. I gave you weapons. Okay. That's a good point. I'm not going to get him up to like$500. I'm not expecting you to do anything. Okay. Yeah, you can let him have a person. I guess Sean has an incredible value pick, but there's something a little bit like, congratulations. You know what? You auctioned a movie coming out in four days. Hey, get him up to$61. $61.

1:34:47Okay,$62. Okay, great. She just wants to have more money than me. Yeah, thank you. Which is not really relevant anymore. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Congratulations. She's got to make her money back now that she's been kicked off the set of Steel Magnolia. I'll take it for 62. Okay. Well, I think I've done my job box office wise. Yeah. And now on to quality. Okay. So Amanda, you have two in a row, right? Yes. Oh, I have two in a row? Yes. Okay. Because I'm in the middle. Okay, what am I going to do here? What will I do here? The thing is, is that I don't care about box office that much because I'm just, I'm going for me, you know?

1:35:38Do you think Superman will get any Oscar nominations? No. No. Sorry. I'm just curious. I don't. Yeah. Visual effects? Not based on what I've seen so far. let's see

1:35:55all right Christopher has 264 in the face is not like good what about the kaiju okay is that good you know what the kaiju is I mean I think I know what a kaiju is generally speaking is there one in the movie um there is yeah that's cool I feel like we've been here for like three hours yeah no I mean let's let's do it J. Kelly let's go let's do it let's do it J. Kelly What's this movie about? It's about a guy. George Clooney is, I believe, an aging movie star. And some other stuff happens. And Adam Sandler is also in it. I don't want to know anymore. I just want to go see it. Does Adam Sandler play his brother?

1:36:32I think so. I believe so, yeah. It is written by Noah Baumbach and Emily Mortimer. Oh, wow. And it is directed by Noah Baumbach. Yeah, okay. So,$100. This is, I think, his fourth movie for Netflix now? Yeah. He's at$100. I did. Yes. this is also shot by Lena Sandgren I believe it's his first film maybe did he shoot White Noise he may have shot White Noise as well he also notably shot La La Land and Babylon and First Man

1:37:09and he shot the upcoming Weathering Heights Law Crawley right yeah so this is his first time working with Bombac which is really interesting I'll say 150 50? Is Emily Mortimer in this film? I don't think so but I believe her son with Alessandra Nivola was in White Noise. Yes. Right? Sam? Sam Nivola? He was in White Lotus. White Lotus, yeah. Good actor. It's according to Wikipedia she is listed in the cast. Great. The cast is incredible. Yeah. It's Clooney and Sam 200. Billy Crudup Laura Dern Riley Keough Patrick Wilson Jim Broadbent Eve Hewson Alba Rohrwalker Josh Hamilton of course Greta Gerwig Isla Fisher Lars Edinger Kyle Soler from fucking Andor yes if you know you know him too how about that 225 250 who ended up with White Noise last time a movie I like I like it also I don't remember You can't psych me out of this.

1:38:18I thought... What do you mean psych you out of it? I don't know. You're just like, you're going to bring up white noise and you're going to say critically we're not so mixed. You got a podcast. This is what we're here to podcast. That is true. But I'm just... My podcasting is being like, no, you will not psych me out of this. Okay. I am excited about Jay Kelly. I'm excited about George Clooney. Me too. I'm excited about Adam Sandler. 263. Oh, I love it. You flew back for the live taping of Good Night and Good Luck. How was that?

1:38:53Did you enjoy yourself? I didn't see either the stage version or the live TV version. I've actually been very... I felt a theater-sized hole in my life this year, actually. What are your feelings on Edward R. Morrow? He did his best, but it doesn't seem like it's going to work out for us. Interesting.

1:39:14270. 270. 280. Now I just sit on the sidelines. Yeah, sorry. Early speculation is Sandman big time Oscar campaign coming. Wonderful. Is it time for Sandman? Yes. Do you think if Sandman didn't make super dumb movies other than these Oscar bait movies, like if he can, can he find like a middle ground between like, I have a remote control that controls my wife and Jay Kelly? that like it would be cool. He does those. He did funny people. That was a long time ago. And that was also like slyly like trying to get an Oscar too, right? I don't know about that. He just did Hustle. I disagree. I think he's actually one of the best purveyors of this.

1:40:03I mean, I'm obsessed with Sandler so I've thought about this a lot. But I think one of the best things about him is he has three modes. He can do your Happy Madison dumb comedy and there's a huge audience for those movies. He can do this kind of like mid-level dramedy. Yeah. Like he did Spanglish years ago. You know, like he does these kinds of movies all the time. I remember Spanglish. Yeah. Not a film I like at all, but he did it. And he also can do Uncut Gems and movies with Bombac. So I think he's like legitimately one of the most versatile movie stars of all time. That's my piece. I don't disagree.

1:40:37You know, George Clooney cannot do Happy Gilmore. He simply cannot do it. That's true. He's not that kind of funny. But Adam Sandler can do out of sight. I think George Clooney in Oh Brother the idiot Coen Clooney could do something approaching the Sandler comedies. I think it's sort of like it's a Jon Hamm thing where you're like too handsome to be that funny even though you really want to be funny. He's funny for a handsome guy. And he definitely appreciates the other people being funny. You know? I think he's a good laugher but you know. I'll say 290. 300. You know who else needs to have an It's Time is Noah.

1:41:18Noah Baumbach. It's really Noah's time. We got to acknowledge one of the greats. How do you feel about the two of them, Noah and Greta, just working for Big Ted? I don't love it. Yeah. I don't love it. But I guess this is where I mean. I'd like to go see his movies in movie theaters. Yeah. He can't get himself like an Indian paintbrush deal like where just like some rich guy is like, here's 40 mil. You can go make a movie. he's never made a movie that has made very much money in theaters so in some ways when Netflix's whole thing was we take on the Noah Baumbachs and the Bong Joos and make their movies that was an amazing moment in movie history that will never be replicated yeah Apple did a very small version of it and that's kind of over too I'll say 310 I'm really into this movie it's a good movie for the show yeah this is a good movie for us 320 this is another I'm hopeful that it will be at Venice.

1:42:15I think it's a pretty good bet. Yeah, because Netflix does... The Venice Film Festival likes Netflix and Netflix likes to show up there. So that would be... 3.30? Sort of 3.40. The main issue is the scheduling, you know? Because I really... Last time, they scheduled Sofia Coppola as Priscilla for after I was supposed to leave. Why not extend your trip? I did extend it, but then I will have to extend it again and I don't know you know is it because you have to go straight to the set of Steel Necklace 2 and you want to see your family right right yeah I understand it's tough uh three three three fifty three sixty three seventy three eighty yeah the cursor that can't keep up with us seems like a lot sure you just want to get what you want to get that is true in the option and in life how's it going are you achieving what you want you're not getting what you want you know but tonight when I put that honey mask on you know then you'll feel you are completed this honey mask completes me I figure out the plot holes and I'm just like that 390 400 my my my is there anything else we would go up against one another for in the rest of this auction Sierra's got only one slot left so it's going to be me and you all the way down the line I could see that's where things would bring you two together yeah but like the thing is and it's a little ugly which is in the theme of this podcast but Bombac is what brings us together you know and so now we are pitted against each other over the thing that we love most.

1:44:09For the King is the single biggest meeting point of our taste? Probably. Yeah. Yeah.

1:44:19That and big Tom Cruise action movies. Yeah, I guess that's true. We've been led down by one of those already this year. Yeah, but we're there together. 410? 420.

1:44:31I don't have a weed joke to make. Sorry. I got some edibles. Not a weed person. No, I'm not. And I got some edibles that were recommended for sleep. And it didn't work for me. And also, I just don't like how they taste. They're like blackberry, but they have strong weed aftertastes. I don't like the notes. No thanks. It is weed, after all. Yeah, I know. It's not... Not a weed guy. They just killed the goose, man. They shouldn't have done... They just... You got a weed take? No, I just think... A big weed take? is not like what weed was. You mean the oregano that you smoked in 1996? Honestly, I was better for it.

1:45:12I was better off smoking like some ground up herbs and spices in Washington Square Park than I was getting my my frontal lobe dissolved by like whatever's in this stuff. And I really resent their real estate footprint. Yeah, that shit is insane. The real estate footprint of the weed industry. I see. I don't really have a comment. I why are there more weed stores than DVD stores well it's it's market capitalism right I mean what do people want oh great how are they spending their time well I think that they should spend their time with DVDs as you know I agree I just received a box for 50 DVDs I don't know why they can't just do both have a weed store where it's like here's a gummy and then here's the perfect movie to go with that gummy yeah there you go I mean I don't think movies are best experienced why are you turning your back on his innovation you know no one's ever thought about taking a gummy and watching a movie before selling them together yeah that could be cool okay that could be cool should we call the local video stores you don't seem that excited about it well most of the time I don't want to watch a movie what if I got stoned and sold your DVDs on the street also another thing is that I think given the strength of weed now I should be able to sell lewds like in a store you know yeah I know what you're saying, but I don't agree with it.

1:46:40I'll let you have it for$4.20. Thank you so much. That's really nice of you. Chris's Quaaludes. Quaalude for many occasions. The branding is right there. It's all Leo's faces from Wolf of Wall Street. That would be really good. Okay. You've got to put another movie up. Yeah. All right. Deliver Me From Nowhere. Wow. Five bucks. Wow. Let's go. I will not be bidding on this movie. Oh, okay. Oh,$10. Okay. $15? $50. I don't know. I mean, I guess... How are you feeling? How am I feeling? About him. About Jeremy as Bruce. I mean, just... About Jeremy as... Pick a menu. Just pick one and just stick with it.

1:47:25The bear? You know? Just... You gotta... I know. Charlie Parker didn't play the same notes every night. I just can't believe how long we've been talking about. you know just he what and the components and just pick one so that's how i feel but i think that when he's not sitting in a in like the weirdly lit kitchen being like i need more ingredients because i have demons um he's really good yeah he was really good in the wedding episode do you believe him as bruce springsteen uh i don't really sure i so much so that you would go over 50 Sure,$53. Let's go. You want to keep talking about it? You're not even bidding because you have a moral opposition to musical biopics.

1:48:10I'm just not that excited about this movie. Okay. It's been a long time since I've seen a Scott Cooper movie I like. Yeah. I think Jeremy Allen White's a good actor. I'm not sure if I'm sold on him at this level. Okay. And I will walk into the ocean for Jeremy Strong. I will support him in anything he does. Yeah. I believe he is one of the most important people alive. and I will not move off of that opinion. And so that alone, I might like this. But, you know, I just think these kinds of movies stink. How do you have$638? I've got three slots left. Yeah. I got Superman for$62.

1:48:49I actually don't know. Is this movie going to get nominated for Best Picture or is it going to get absolutely destroyed by critics? I have no clue. Did you guys see the lunch in Sardinia that was Scott Cooper, Jeremy Strong, Bradley Cooper. Nope. Someone else was there. They were just all... Someone else who was not related to this movie, but makes movies. That's Blue Zone right there. Yeah. I didn't live forever. That's good olive oil. Would you get on a rocket ship and go into space with those guys? Yeah. That would be an amazing movie, too. What was the name of that trip? I honestly, if... The Blue Origin.

1:49:28Blue Origin. Thank you. If they'd had you on that trip, not the women because you can't be a girl boss, but like... Just to break up the self-seriousness. If they had you on the dude version of that trip, everyone would love it. Bro origin? Yeah, bro origin. Bro origin, you'd kill it. And I think you'd look good in the blue suit too. What would happen though if they Martian'd me? And I had to grow potatoes out of my own feces. Those Irish jeans though. As long as someone is videotaping it, then we have, you know, a box office. It would be tough to miss the Odyssey if I got lost in space. This episode is dedicated to CR, who is in oblivion right now.

1:50:09Chris, we're so happy we got to see the Odyssey. He's sending us a little, he's sending us robot messages every Mars solar day. We're going to put you right here on the big screen. Can I make a wish it? And do you think like if I was like, I have like two hours of oxygen left, Christopher Nolan, and please beam the Odyssey into my fucking suit so I could see it. Do you think you would do it? I think the runtime is going to be a little longer than two hours. Also, the format would not be appropriate. He wouldn't want it on his phone. But what if he could broadcast it against the moon? You know what I mean?

1:50:39Yeah. The widest of screens. Yeah, but would the sound be synced properly? But then you'd have to wait for a full, you know? What is it? What's like a... How does the moon wax and wane on Mars? Oh, I'm in Mars. I thought I was just going up and doing a quick lap. CR's got this for 60 bucks. I know, we'll let him have it. Well, that's the end of his slate. Yeah. It's okay. I could still chime in, talk a little bit. I have to nominate something. That's true. I've got you two fighting over it. You do. You're up, big dog. I'm up. Yeah. Five slots left. Big dog. I like that. I accept. I accept, big dog.

1:51:18It does really feel like we've been here forever. It's been a long pod. I wonder if it's cool for people listening. They're like, this is good. I think so. I think that we've got a lot of ideas. Does the moon wax and wane on Mars? I guess it's not Mars' moon. Does Mars have moons? I think if I was on Mars, that would be a much bigger story than the Odyssey because I would be the first man on Mars. Mars has two moons, which I guess are the moons that carry its chariots. Now the horses, you know, now that I think about it. Okay, please sit. Chloe Zhao's hamnet. 50 bucks. Oh, okay. Oh. It's going to get contentious.

1:51:55Yeah. Yeah. Did you read this? No. And I won't. Okay. Did I spoil it for you? No. Adapted from the Maggie O 'Farrell novel, which I thought was absolutely sensational. I mean, 75 for sure. I'll say 100. Yeah. This is actually quite different from anything Chloe Zhao has ever done before. True. Her first three films are, if not improvised, very naturalistic. And the story is very threadbare. Eternals is an improvised naturalistic film. And Eternals is what Eternals is. This is meant to be like a return to form kind of a thing, but also, you know, period piece adaptation is not something she's ever experimented with.

1:52:45Right. I'm still a believer in her talent. I am as well. I really love Nomadland. I said it then and I say it now. I really, really like that movie. I think it's very insightful emotionally. Also, you know, I know that period piece does historically mean very mannered. Of course it is. Not necessarily, though. But it doesn't have to be. It doesn't have to be. And it would make sense with this story for it to be. Like, you know what's a period piece that kind of jumps right off the page? What? Valkyrie. Yeah, there you go. Yes, it sure does. This jumps right off the page and right into your laptop where you post memes on 8chan.

1:53:23125. I'll say 150. The other reason for this to be excited about this movie, obviously Paul Meskel playing William Shakespeare and Jesse Buckley playing Agnes Shakespeare. Yes. Jesse Buckley, one of my favorites. Paul Meskel, kind of in need of a comeback. We're fucking Glastonbury for that guy though. I'm unreal. Smoking darts with Gracie. Yeah. Gracie Abrams, are you a fan? No, but I... You know, they're obviously, they're staying together. You think so? You think for good? If I had to bet, if I was a betting man, they've gone past the point where it would just be convenient for like paparazzi points.

1:53:56So you think wedding bells for them? Maybe. Interesting. Joe Allen plays Bartholomew in this film. Okay, 175. Joe Allen has good taste in films. I don't remember or know who Bartholomew is, but that's fine. Emily Watson plays Mary. Emily Watson, wonderful actress. Agnes is a great name. It was on the list. It was. That's really nice. I think it would have been on the list for us as well, though we know an Agnes, like a similar generation Agnes, so I wouldn't want to steal that one. How many names, how many like Steves do you guys know? It's really... No. Yeah, there are no Chrises. Dave. There are no...

1:54:41Sean. No. I've done this bit before with other parents. It's just Michael. there are no Michaels like that that preschool tour will just blow your hair back you just look at those Jonathan those you just don't meet a Jonathan anymore yeah you're more likely to meet a George than a Jonathan in 2025 it's just gonna be so fucking crazy when it's like 2060 and it's like President Ryder you know like yeah Monkfellow yeah they're all the names of the kids in Alice I mean we live in Los Angeles the east side of Los Angeles yeah yeah yeah so yeah the names are it's a bubble it's a bubble uh Uh, 200. I mean, 210, sure.

1:55:23211. Okay, 212. 213. 214? Chunk it out. 215? You want to do it? Like, do you, I mean... I think this is going to be one of the big films of the year. I think it's going to be one of the Oscar heavyweights. Okay.

1:55:462018?

1:55:53I'll take it for 219. Okay. There you go. There you go. Was that fun? I feel good about it. Okay. I needed an Oscar contender. Proud owner. Yeah. Great book if you haven't read it. Upsetting, but great. This film was produced by Sam Mendes and Steven Spielberg. okay well good job very interesting I wonder if they were both attached to direct at a certain point oh and then they they were like I won't but I'll lend my name to it seems possible we shall see okay Chris you've got to put a movie up I can't bid on it but I can watch you two talk about caught stealing Darren Aronofsky's comic thrower so what are the rules here I don't know.

1:56:43We've never been in this situation before. Neither of you want it. I can throw up another one. I think we can just pass and move on to another. I really did not like the trailer for this movie. I believe in the members of the cast like a lot. Austin Butler, Zoe Kravitz, Matt Smith, Regina King. Sure, Bad Bunny, why not? Once again, I'm reading from Google AI. So if that's wrong, blame AI like everything else. You could click one button. just to confirm. I know, but you know, it's suddenly like I had the mic. This is what has happened to America. It's true. This is what has happened to the minds of consumers.

1:57:22It's a time crunch thing. It's not an issue on this episode. But I can see Jack like holding his head in despair. Your lighting's great today. And we have like a, it's like the corner of the TV is over your forehead. But then I see him being like, is no one bidding for this? No one's bidding. Do you want me to put up a different film? or a second film now on the turn. I enjoy Darren Aronofsky's work, but this feels a little low rent for him in my opinion. I think it looks cool. And Austin Butler has got my vote. Same. President Butler. Speaking of presidents, House of Dynamite. Yeah, okay. That's the big low?

1:57:58Yeah, this is interesting. Okay. Have seen Nary an image from this film. Yeah. It's got, I believe, an October release date. Has Idris Elba been in the White House too much? just in his career yeah to be believable in this House of Dynamites scenario which I assume he is the president he's first billed in the movie so that seems logical or maybe he's like but maybe maybe it's one of those where the president is just in another room is Greta Lee the president is Tracy Letts the president that would be great I do I do not believe Tracy is the president of this film I could be wrong I've talked to him about this movie but not what he's doing in the movie okay um the logline is a group of White House officials scramble to deal with an incoming missile attack on the US I don't know for sure but I think it might even be a TikTok specifically of what happens when it is announced with C's not TikTok CK's yes CK's not the Catherine Bigelow did not direct a TikTok for Netflix although we do have to clarify in 2025 maybe she should have done that no like a little countdown from the moment when the missile is fired at the United States to what on what transpires, which is just a great premise for a movie.

1:59:13Failsafe is a very similar premise, the Lumet movie. So Idris Elba, Rebecca Ferguson, Tracy Letts, Anthony Ramos, Greta Lee, Renee Elise Goldsberry. That's a lot of Broadway talent right there. A lot of stage actors in the White House.

1:59:31I'll bid... 10 bucks? 25. How do you feel about another year of Bigelow Big Jim going toe to toe. Historically, it's been fruitful. It has. It has. That seems good. 50 bucks? Kind of pumped about this. Yeah, me too. White House Thriller? She hasn't directed anything since Detroit. I'm very 60? 75? This could just become a movie that doesn't exist. Yes. It's possible that it comes out and people are like, okay, and then they move on. Or it's a Catherine Bigelow movie? It could be like Triple Frontier, which she was supposed to direct. But it could be like one of those movies where it's like, man I'm so pumped and then it comes out on Netflix and everybody's like cool but it never died in our memory yeah that's a good one our personal rewatchables big size Twixes I do remember that that was that was a great day uh 80 that was a great day 85

2:00:2690 I feel like the awareness of this and the public at large is low. True. I would say that for a lot of these films. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 95? I mean, what am I going to do if I don't do this? This would give me Big Jim, James Gunn, Chloe Zhao, and Catherine Bigelow if I could get this film. That would be solid. The$100? Because I believe in women filmmakers. I'm not even making this about gender. I don't see gender. I only see a missile coming right at us what I see is a thriller a pulse pounding thriller from one of our great thriller makers alright 105 have you seen Point Break recently? yeah it's really good 110 wow that's a film 115 are we are we just gonna do this all the way?

2:01:24120 I don't know Jack is so he's like so hungry he wants to go home he's not string cheese so bad yeah oh yeah can we get we throw string cheeses in here will that like interrupt with the like let's run it right now oh string 120 okay uh yeah 120 i feel good about that 130 okay 135 140 i'm sorry chris this is just this is important i agree i wasn't yawning 145 150 Bigelow 155 like who's who's saying who's saying no not me would you have bid on this Chris yeah this is gonna be sick you got now you see me that was more for 36 dollars I thought I was gonna throw that out there there was gonna be some laughs I didn't really think I was gonna wind up here we go alright nice there we go one two oh dear Okay, thank you.

2:02:30Thank you. All right. Wow, string cheese break. A bunch of people eating cheese on video. People love it. When cheese is in someone's mouth and they talk, people love to hear that. So this is cold, so that is bad for you, lactose-wise. I don't know how much lactose is. I do have some mozzarella allowances. Did you get that piece of information? Where'd you get that from? From Sean. Cold cheese is bad for you? Cooked cheese, if you're lactose intolerant, is okay. There's like gradations. 155. I'm not officially diagnosed. 165. Do you think Catherine Bicklow eats string cheese on set? No. What do you think Catherine Bicklow eats on set?

2:03:03170. Hot tea. She vapes. She does? Do you know that? No, but it seems like something that she would do. She probably has like a protein bowl. Yeah. What's in the protein bowl? Is it protein? I don't think that is. It's super food, but... 175. 180. I've never had an acai bowl. There's too many blueberries in it for me. Yeah. like I don't it's just not a food set you can have it for 180 sick okay it's a good get thanks I'm excited it's also a Netflix movie well whatever I don't care as I said I exist outside of box office I exist for the cinema that's what I exist for which is why I acquired Superman cool um you put another movie up me I think so no CR well I put up Cut Stealing oh yeah I put up Pasta Dynamite okay so then it'll be me yeah

2:04:01how do I thread the needle here I don't know Sean

2:04:08I'll put it was just an accident for one dollar on the board Jafar Panahi's Palm Door winning new film acquired by Neon and what is the release date it does it's October right October yeah certainly one of the big awards contenders of the year Iranian thriller. I mean it's not going to do box office but Oscar wise. I mean I'll do 40 if you want it you can take it from me. I'll take it for 41. Okay. I feel like I need to pump up those Oscar numbers and that Metacritic score. Gotta get those numbers up. You know what is Jafar Panahi's history on Metacritic. Pump up those numbers. I'm going to get my quant on this.

2:04:53So he has a career average score of 82 on Metacritic. Well, you're just, you're a wizard of strategy, Sean. And we're lucky to be in the option with you. 93? It was just an accident currently sits at 87. What? You won Metacritic. Yeah. Congratulations. So you pull it apart. I don't always, but right now I am. What's up with, um, if I have money left over? Oh, I have money left over. I know, but like, where does it go? Does it go away? Do I want to spend everything? Do I want to go right into the budget of steel Magnolias too? Yeah. But does it go back to me? No, under no circumstances. So you've got$40 left.

2:05:36Okay. I've got$378 left. Sure. So good luck to you on whatever it is that you want. I know exactly what I'm going to do. I'm not stressed at all. I just want to make sure I get the full title right. For$40, I'll take down Naby, the grand finale. Let me go. This is valueless, though, because it will not cross$100 million. It will not get any Oscar nominations. I'll tell you what. I will tell you this. Please stop pointing at me. What happened? Did this cook it? I will tell you what. It's pure protein. Yeah. I had the protein boost. You actually are now more channeling Margaret Thatcher, I would say, if I had to choose a female leader.

2:06:16The Iron Lady. I mean, listen, that's fine except for my hair. It's actually not fine. that's not cool. That's fine. No, because of her policies. I'm down with Margaret Thatcher, down with Maggie. You seen that YouTube clip of the Irish lady? Of course. That's one of the great ones. The first film. You just crashed out. What is going on? The first down-navvy film made like$98 million domestic. Has it continued its box office surge? No, but 2022 was a weird year at the box office. And I have to tell you, Downton Abbey, the Grand Tour or whatever the second one was called, was an excellent film.

2:06:58Yeah. It was titled Downton Abbey colon F1. There's nothing like getting two hours deep into a pod and having you on the verge of tears as you recall the box office performance of Downton Abbey 2. Did you ever see Downton Abbey 2? No. So, Sybil... No, Sybil's dead. Sorry, Sybil's daughter... You cannot do this right now. ...inherits a mansion in France. Okay. Well, actually, I guess Lady Violet inherits it. That's Maggie Smith. She's still on the show. Well, in Down and Abbey 2, she was. Force ghost Maggie Smith. But so then they all go to the south of France. Did you ever see Flight Plan? And the guy who is the no, that's the Mel Gibson one, right?

2:07:43This is like, we do every episode together. This is what it's like all the time. Like Rome, what was his name? The guy from the Bureau who's like the handler who's not the main guy. Uh-huh. I don't remember, honestly. He's his long-lost cousin. Okay. So Downton Abbey 1 made$198 million worldwide. Downton Abbey 2 made$92 million worldwide. Yeah. Again, 2022. I don't care. As I said when we started this, I'm doing this for me. Okay. And I am fucking psyched for Downton Abbey the grand finale. I'm on the record as enjoying all of these movies. So Lily James will be appearing. Okay. As Lady Rose Maclair.

2:08:28Matthew Goode is not available for one day to film. He is listed in the cast. He is listed in the cast of the grand finale. And he's not Scottish in Department Q. He's an Englishman. But he's in Scotland. Working in Edinburgh, yeah. Okay. No, he's not listed. I lied. He's not. It's too bad. He's not in the trailer. Do you really need a 50 ounce water if you're only going to drink three ounces of it? Have you thought about that? It's true that my hydration goals have been stymied by my embrace of the free iced latte. But I do because then you don't have to refill it as much. This is your... I can get anything I want for$378.

2:09:15Okay. Hmm. Can you guys vamp for a second? Sure. Here's some movies that I was like kind of considering throwing out there because I don't think Sean's going to throw any of these. Blue Moon, the Richard Linklater movie about Laurence Hart and his night at Sardis with Ethan Hawke. Very excited about that. Margaret Qualley. Andrew Scott, who apparently gives a wonderful performance in this film. And then a movie I would like to see with you. Yes. It's called Pressure. Uh-huh. And it's directed by John Carney. And it's about a meteorologist who has to give the D-Day weather forecast. And it also stars Andrew Scott.

2:09:47Wow. Oh, yes. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. And there's an American guy in it, but it's not Scoot McNary, but it was something where I was like, holy shit, there's an American guy in this. Pressure movie. I'm Googling it now. Well, no, that's about sea diving. But Matthew Goode is apparently in the 2015 film Pressure, Pressure movie, Andrew Scott. The other one that I was really kind of fired up about, but I don't think Sean is going to take, is Sacrifice, which is the new film from Romaine Garvis who made Athena and this is a movie what's that? Gavris sorry and this one's Anya Taylor-Joy and Chris Evans and Anya Taylor-Joy plays a political radical who kidnaps a movie star played by Chris Evans oh don't know if that's coming out this year I just was saying that I'm interested is Nouvelle Vague coming out this year?

2:10:40it is okay I mean but also Netflix which is why I'm too heavy on Netflix. You're also doing any slots. Well, I know, but that's why I did Downton Abbey, the grand finale. Can I throw out some things I'm thinking of? Yeah, sure. I'm thinking of on the Netflix side, Wake Up Dead Man, which feels like a return to a slightly more serious tone for Rian Johnson. Okay. Starring Josh O 'Connor as a priest, or is he? Or is he? Frankenstein. GDT. I didn't think I'd have much competition for you guys, but I am looking forward to it. Ciao Papa. You think Frankenstein will sing Ciao Papa in the film? Frankenstein is also a fascist.

2:11:23The doctor or the monster? Guillermo del Toro made... Well, I mean, I think Pinocchio like maybe had fascist origins. I'm not really sure. But he was fascist in... Yeah, he was in his version. You know what's crazy? Mussolini's grandson got signed by an Italian soccer club. And he looks a lot like him. That's great. He doesn't use Mussolini. He sure does. I don't know if you visited Italy recently, but you're about to get a... Yeah, okay. Does he do the whole stance and the posture and the... No. I'm looking him up. The Secret Agent I'm thinking about. Clabber Mendoccofilo's movie, Brazilian film starring Wagner Mora.

2:12:08Okay. Begonia? Yeah, you do see it. Yeah. Grazie. Mille Grazie Of course he's playing for Lazio

2:12:21Gosh The Mastermind Yeah Kelly Reichert's movie Hell yeah Is the drama coming out this year? It's on my list I don't know Yeah That's another one That's the Robert Pattinson Zendaya A24 Experience I'm open to it As you can see So the movies that I got left on my list just to keep previewing things. Predator Badlands we briefly mentioned. I did put the Fantastic Four First Steps on my list. It looks like Ella Fanning lives on a planet of predators. It does. I believe she's an android. Well, she definitely gets like her eyes do something funny. Yeah. But she seems like she's pretty human in her response to the...

2:13:05We should do a watch along of Killer of Killers with Amanda and she's never seen it before. Oh, yeah. The animated Predator film. Okay. It's an omnibus movie about four different figures in history who have gone toe-to-toe with a predator. You know how we were talking about Kreger? But don't tell me who they are. I won't. I'm just saying. It's Mary Poppins. But I would, are they like... Julia Roberts in Mother's Day. Are they obscure pieces, like figures in history, or is it like Napoleon? They're archetypal warriors. Okay, but not Napoleon. No famous figures in history. More than, you know, it's like a samurai.

2:13:36Well, there's your idea for the next movie. Okay. Okay, that's good. I would take that. Running Man? Oh yeah Yeah Tron Aries? No didn't CR take that in the first auction? Oh you did Running Man I have Yes You did that's right Thank you Jack Tron Aries No

2:13:55There was another one I was interested in Kaczynski did the first Tron reboot right? He did You can't take Smashing Machine I've already seen it Yeah So I should have thought of it She has Marty Supreme You could have had the Safdie double I could have In my heart I do Yeah in my spiritual board I have the Smashing Machine okay but unfortunately I can't select it here um I'll take Predator Badlands just for kicks okay movie that's probably not going to score me too many points but I'm super excited about and uh Trachtenberg doesn't see why we're doing for me have fun list Trachtenberg has been killing it 10 Cloverfield Lane Prey Killer of Killers and uh and now Predator Badlands well we'll do it for$1 for$1.

2:14:41So we're all going to walk out of here with cash. No, I didn't. I spent it all. Oh. Well, Sean and I know how to save. Man, it just balled out. Yeah. But it doesn't go anywhere, so. Well, we'll see. Listen to the weapons pod and see where that money goes. You know? That's what it's all about. You gotta find these kids. Let's recap our picks. Chris, what are you doing first? I got Ballad of a Small Player for$165. Weapons for$465. Is this thing on? $70. Now you see me. Colon, now you don't. For$36? And for$60, I got Bruce Springsteen deliver me from nowhere. I'm fucking killing it. Look at that.

2:15:21That's a really weird board. You know, you wouldn't want it any other way. I'm happy for you. Avatar Fire and Ash for$300 for me. Superman for$62. Hamnet for$219. It was just an accident for$41. And Predator Badlands for$1. we got After the Hunt for$260 Roofman for$100 Jay Kelly for$420 A House of Dynamite for$180 and Downton Abbey the grand finale for$40 I gotta say you can be such a goofball and then like as soon as you do voiceover yeah oh thanks and then I got House of Dynamite you know

2:16:02that was your NPR voice yeah I can do it too I love it thank you the thing about this game which is very stupid is that we can put this graphic on social media and people can be like oh my god this person did amazing it's all contextual it's all about the flow of the game when it's happening maybe instead we should just put a picture of Mussolini's grandson up we'd probably do better numbers I think he's a great grandson yeah great grandson Mussolini's son just only because I googled it that's it that's a good one no other thoughts we're talking about Superman later this week we're seeing it tomorrow how you feeling?

2:16:39I'm excited I wish we had time for dinner beforehand oh you know do we not? I guess we don't yeah because of our children yeah shoot what about after? can break it all down okay talk about that immigrant story okay do the pod before the pod I know it's tough you and Andy don't do that? that's true you guys text we try not to we text you text I mean then I rarely talk about the movie Andy likes to text during his watching of episodes okay and how do you feel about that? that sounds terrible Well, it's usually quite charming, intelligent, and funny, but I'm always like, save it for the pod. Yeah.

2:17:11Okay. Now I'm hungry. Thanks to our producer, Jack Sanders, for his work on this episode. Thanks to Sam for cooking up this new scoring system. We'll see you for Superman. Bye.

2:17:35Thank you.

From the publisher

Sean and Amanda are joined by Chris Ryan to conduct Part 2 of their 2025 Movie Auction, where they draft, in auction format, some of the movies they're most excited for this year. Before diving in, they remember the wonderful career of Michael Madsen, who tragically passed away this weekend at 67 years old (2:38). Then, they review the results from their earlier selections this year and revisit the rules and scoring system going forward, before launching into this year's slate, including some mega-blockbusters like 'Superman' and ‘Avatar: Fire and Ash’, as well as some smaller but still exciting indies like 'The Ballad of a Small Player' and ‘It Was Just an Accident’ (7:40).

Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins

Guest: Chris Ryan

Producer: Jack Sanders

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