The 2026 Movie Auction Returns!

2 Jul 2026 · 2 h 27 min · 66 chapters

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Topic The Big Picture’s 2026 “movie auction” episode: they recap the year’s first-half bidding, explain the auction rules and “trigger” thresholds, then run a live auction for new picks—starting with Tony Gilroy’s Behemoth.

Guests (hosts and guest background) No external guests appear in this episode. Hosts are Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins, with Chris Ryan as the third host. They discuss film industry chatter and box-office/awards strategy; Chris is the auction’s first selector, Sean second, Amanda third.

Key claims / arguments

  • Auction format: each person tries to acquire five titles with $1,000 total; money does not roll over; previously auctioned movies can be re-auctioned.
  • Triggers across the whole slate: at least two films must gross $100M domestically; at least one film must get 2+ Oscar nominations; at least one film must reach 85 Metacritic; no more than two sequels.
  • Metacritic 85 “layups” are hard because many likely candidates screened at Cannes and are treated as ineligible for some auction constraints.
  • They debate whether Robert Eggers’ Werewolf (trailer) looks too similar to Nosferatu and whether “run it back” marketing is smart.
  • They discuss Oscar/awards likelihood for Emily Blunt’s Disclosure Day and how release timing and studio focus (Odyssey) could affect nominations.

Notable examples / picks mentioned

  • Werewolf: Robert Eggers adaptation; stars Aaron Taylor-Johnson and Willem Dafoe.
  • Disclosure Day: currently around $94.8M domestic; Amanda/others expect it to cross $100M.
  • Metacritic 85 list includes Blue Heron (92), plus films like Fatherland, Silent Friend (Tony Leung), Sound of Falling, Magellan, Pompeii Below the Clouds, Ourland, Epic, My Father’s Shadow, and The Furious (85).
  • Live auction: Chris Ryan’s first bid is for Tony Gilroy’s Behemoth (stars Pedro Pascal, Will Arnett, Olivia Wilde; about a cellist in film-score orchestras; no release date yet; reportedly nine composers).

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Chapters

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Overview of the Movie Auction

0:00 to 0:52

Discussion about the auction structure and format as they prepare for selecting movies.

“For adults with Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis symptoms, every choice matters.”

Overview of the Movie Auction

1:00 to 1:16

Discussion about the auction structure and format as they prepare for selecting movies.

Overview of the Movie Auction

1:50 to 2:23

Discussion about the auction structure and format as they prepare for selecting movies.

“This is part two of our movie auction, and we're going to start selecting movies right after this.”

Trailer Reactions and Film Expectations

2:23 to 3:01

The hosts share their thoughts on the werewolf trailer and expectations from upcoming films.

“Should we reconvene you, me, and Rob as the monster trail?”

Comparing Films: Nosferatu and Current Trends

3:01 to 4:52

A deep dive into the similarities and differences between Nosferatu and current film trends.

“shockingly similar to the Nosferatu trailer.”

Analyzing Robert Eggers' Directorial Style

4:52 to 5:54

Hosts discuss Robert Eggers' filmmaking style and its perception in the industry.

“Absolutely miserable every time he speaks to me.”

Auction Strategy and Film Picks

5:54 to 8:07

The hosts analyze their auction strategies and choices regarding films for the upcoming auction.

“But, you know, it's if you shan't, you shan't, you know.”

Reflecting on the Movie Year So Far

8:07 to 14:00

Discussion of the films from the first half of the year and their implications for the auction.

“no but did it meet the box office threshold?”

Discussing the Narnia Adaptation

14:00 to 14:48

The hosts discuss a recent viewing of the Narnia adaptation and its release schedule.

“Not ideal when you read it to a four-year-old and then you just got to sit on your hands for a year and wait.”

Upcoming Films and Release Dates

14:48 to 16:48

The conversation shifts to upcoming films, including Cliff Booth and Here Comes the Flood and their release expectations.

“So you can celebrate as a part of your holy week.”
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Box Office Predictions and Guarantees

16:48 to 19:18

The hosts make predictions about the box office performance of Disclosure Day and discuss personal stakes involved.

“to get to 100 gonna be real tough So Disclosure Day is currently at, I believe,$94.8 million domestic box office.”

Exploring the Concept of Alien Interactions

19:18 to 21:24

Discussion arises about aliens and their potential existence, linking it to themes of recent films.

“The ram that rams Jasper and Jackass best than last?”

Film Festival Strategies and Impact

21:24 to 24:06

The hosts analyze the impact of film festivals on box office performance and critical reception.

“You're going to need, you're going to, you've got some shortcuts.”

Oscar Predictions and Future Releases

24:06 to 28:00

In the final segment, they predict Oscar nominations and discuss standout films of the upcoming season.

“to Amanda's point about Cliff Booth's not going to be at Venice.”

Oscar Predictions: Emily Blunt's Chances

28:00 to 29:28

Discussion on the Oscar nominations and Emily Blunt's performance.

“will already have the two Oscar nominations locked up between The Odyssey and Project Hail Mary and probably Dune Part 3 as well.”

Emerald Fennel and Future Projects

29:28 to 31:14

Conversation about Emerald Fennel's upcoming projects and her potential impact.

“and a lot of the expectations for the rest of the year.”

Wellness Journeys and Consistency

31:14 to 32:38

Hosts share insights into their wellness journeys and the challenges of consistency.

“Shaking up the Dungeons and Dragons die.”

Auction Preparations for Behemoth

32:38 to 34:29

Preparation and excitement build for the auction of the film Behemoth.

“Do you want to come to the hotel gym with me in Toronto?”

Bidding Strategies and Film Insights

34:29 to 36:41

Discussion on the bidding strategies and insights into the film's production.

“in the cinematic arts, but also like a guy at a crossroads.”

The Implications of Film Titles

36:41 to 37:47

Exploration of the significance of punctuation in film titles and its effects.

“Honestly, if you want to grab an August release and you want to put your arms around it and put the CR touch on it, 160.”

Deep Dive into Behemoth's Themes

37:47 to 42:00

In-depth discussion about the themes and storytelling elements of Behemoth.

“Searchlight famously did not have a film nominated for Best Picture last year.”

Nut Cutting Metaphors and Movie Bidding

42:00 to 44:25

The hosts discuss the meaning of a metaphor related to competition and share playful banter about movie bidding strategies.

“Well, at a certain point, it's nut cutting time, you know?”

The Mystery of Behemoth

44:25 to 46:34

The hosts express their excitement and uncertainty about a movie called Behemoth, discussing its lack of available information and potential value.

“Because there are no, there are no production stills.”

Pedro Pascal and Missed Opportunities

46:34 to 48:42

A lively conversation ensues about actor Pedro Pascal's casting and the potential of other actors in upcoming films.

“I was sitting at my desk while I was working at eMusic, and everyone was pretending to work that day, and they were all watching the game on their computers, and everyone collectively stood up and shouted.”

The Auction Continues

48:42 to 52:11

The hosts navigate the ongoing auction, consider bidding strategies, and share thoughts on various films and directors.

“He read The Lion, the Witch, and the Reworker.”

Excitement for Upcoming Films

52:11 to 54:13

The discussion shifts to upcoming films, specifically one about To Catch a Predator, and the implications of multiple nominations for actors.

“I don't know why I didn't think of that.”

Lance Oppenheim's New Project

54:13 to 56:00

The hosts delve into Lance Oppenheim's new film, discussing its subject matter and the cast involved.

“Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but can you start getting nominated for multiple films?”

Phoebe Bridgers and Sperm World

56:00 to 56:49

Discussing notable cast members in an upcoming film, including Phoebe Bridgers.

“All of Lance Oppenheim's documentaries are worth your time.”

A24's Upcoming Releases

56:50 to 58:08

Exploring the anticipated releases from A24 and their potential impact on the film festival circuit.

“What else do they have coming out in the fall that could be dividing their attention, right?”

Club Kid and Personal Connections

58:09 to 59:55

A personal reflection on the film 'Club Kid' and its connection to nightlife culture.

“I think anytime you ever speak on Star Wars going forward, the bottom cryon should just be like a Mandalorian corner.”

Ghostbusters and Parenting Insights

59:56 to 1:02:02

Discussing 'Ghostbusters' with a focus on its appeal to children and parental concerns regarding movie violence.

“yeah of course when Slimer happened she said that ghost is my favorite same which is you know we all agree about Slimer he's a wonderful guy man or woman?”

Star Wars Rankings and Family

1:02:03 to 1:04:16

Ranking Star Wars films as discussed among family, revealing children's preferences.

“I mean, he likes Phantom Menace because he likes...”

Martin McDonagh's Film Career

1:04:17 to 1:05:29

A deep dive into Martin McDonagh's filmography and the themes present in his works.

“Operating on a different wavelength from everybody.”

AI Conversations and Gender Dynamics

1:05:30 to 1:07:45

Exploring conversations around AI in the context of gender dynamics and media.

“absurdist comedy than it is a sort of mournful treatise on relationships and friendship.”

Vacation Plans and Film Picks

1:07:46 to 1:10:01

Personal vacation plans discussed alongside suggestions for films to watch.

“There were multiple conferences, just so you know, because it's a whole month.”

Discussion on Film Preferences

1:10:01 to 1:12:40

The hosts discuss their personal preferences for actors and films, particularly focusing on Brie Larson and others.

“Because she's had like an interesting...”

Excitement for 'End of Oak Street'

1:12:40 to 1:15:00

The hosts share their enthusiasm about the upcoming movie 'End of Oak Street' and its potential.

“Speaking of starring his girl Anne Hathaway.”

Exploring Dinosaur Movies

1:15:00 to 1:16:40

A conversation about the scarcity of dinosaur movies and their evolution in cinema since 'Jurassic Park'.

“Ask me a single question about Jurassic.”

Sponsorship Segment

1:16:40 to 1:20:05

Discussion transitions to a promotional segment for products and services.

“If it was all print and Amanda just had her.”

Bidding on Anticipated Movies

1:20:10 to 1:24:00

The hosts engage in a lively conversation about movies they are excited to bid on, including 'Whale Fall'.

“It is your turn to put a movie up, right?”

Discussion on Whale Fall and Hollywood

1:24:00 to 1:25:18

Exploration of the impact of the film 'Whale Fall' on Hollywood and cinematic storytelling.

“But I don't actually know what happens inside the whale.”

Personal Anecdotes and Family Life

1:25:18 to 1:27:10

Hosts share personal stories about weekend activities and the need for silence in family life.

“And then, so Fetty left and then it was going to be the evil dead burn guy was going to make it.”

Upcoming Movies and Box Office Predictions

1:27:10 to 1:29:08

Discussion of upcoming movie releases and their potential box office success.

“I don't know if I'd have the heart to do it.”

Insights on Film Performances and Industry Trends

1:29:08 to 1:31:22

Analyzing performances in films and discussing trends in the acting industry.

“I don't really know what I'm going to do with myself.”

Oscar Campaigns and Nominations

1:31:22 to 1:35:01

Conversation on Oscar nominations and the competitive landscape of films.

“As someone who was raised with those voices very closely.”

Discussion on Spider-Man and Future Projects

1:35:01 to 1:38:01

Exploration of upcoming Spider-Man projects and the actors involved in the franchise.

“to the extent that I pay attention to it.”

Spider-Man Strategies and Bidding Games

1:38:01 to 1:40:41

Discussion about Spider-Man movies and bidding strategies in a game context.

“I was focusing on what I need and kind of trying to plot my strategy.”

The Excitement of Here Comes the Flood

1:40:42 to 1:42:57

Conversation about the film Here Comes the Flood and its anticipated release.

“Me going to the cinema and saying, yes, they still make them.”

The Other Mommy's Unique Premise

1:42:58 to 1:44:44

Exploration of the film The Other Mommy and its intriguing plot elements.

“Is it Leech or Stahelski is doing How to Rob a Bank?”

Diane Keaton's Filmography Analysis

1:44:45 to 1:47:21

Analyzing the shifts in Diane Keaton's film roles throughout her career.

“The demon takes the corporeal form of Jessica Chastain.”

Upcoming Movies and Their Buzz

1:47:22 to 1:51:40

Discussion on various upcoming movie releases and industry trends.

“You read a log line on a publicly available website.”

Final Bids and Game Dynamics

1:51:41 to 1:52:00

The conclusion of the bidding game and final thoughts on the session.

“Now, Christmas Day is the werewolf episode.”

Upcoming Movie Releases Discussion

1:52:00 to 1:52:36

The hosts discuss various upcoming movie releases, including an animated Lord of the Rings film and Johnny Depp's new project.

“That's the big release on Christmas Day right now.”

The Hunt for Gollum and Auction Details

1:52:36 to 1:54:49

The conversation shifts to details about the upcoming film 'The Hunt for Gollum' and the ongoing movie auction amongst the hosts.

“Yeah, but somebody just signed on for it.”

Film Projects and Oscar Predictions

1:54:49 to 1:57:16

Discussion on a new film titled 'Hope' and its potential for an Oscar nomination.

“Why aren't you able to pronounce any of the words in this story?”

Werewolf Movie Auction

1:57:16 to 1:58:45

The hosts engage in a playful bidding war for a film titled 'Werewolf', discussing personal relationships with movie mythology.

“Like, what is your personal relationship with that mythology?”

Cats vs. Coyotes: A Personal Anecdote

1:58:45 to 2:00:08

One host shares a personal story about protecting a cat from a coyote in their neighborhood.

“And they come out like at dusk and they're really in the mix.”

Oscar Contender Predictions and Cultural Commentary

2:00:08 to 2:06:00

The hosts discuss potential Oscar contenders for the year and cultural observations about film reception.

“I'll say 80 bucks I'm fascinated by Werewolf I hope it's good I can't shake Chris's Wes Anderson insight, but I'm one of those people who's like, you're not seeing the Wes Anderson movie.”

Analyzing Upcoming Films and Auction Picks

2:06:00 to 2:10:29

The hosts discuss various films, their potential awards, and auction strategies.

“and so that's that seems like some decent guessing some of those will some of those won't this is a fascinating podcast do you think that does he have a pick now What's happening?”

Cannes Experience and Missed Films

2:10:30 to 2:13:41

The hosts reflect on their Cannes experience and discuss films they missed.

“Well, you could have bought it, and you didn't.”

Game Creation and Audience Engagement

2:13:42 to 2:15:01

A lighthearted conversation about creating games for audience engagement and their dynamics.

“It takes place across three timelines in Spain.”

Literary References and Film Adaptations

2:15:02 to 2:20:00

Discussion around Jane Austen’s adaptations and the similarities in her plots.

“Well, there are many other games that could be played.”

Discussing Jane Austen's Works

2:20:00 to 2:21:00

The hosts engage in a light-hearted quiz about Jane Austen's novels.

Reflections on the Film Year

2:21:00 to 2:22:39

The hosts discuss their excitement for upcoming films and the impact of Cannes on their view.

“Do you feel excited for the rest of the year?”

Game on Movie Auctions

2:22:39 to 2:25:38

The hosts share their experiences and strategies from a movie auction.

“was coming out in theaters, that would make it feel a little bit different.”

Closing Thoughts and Farewells

2:25:38 to 2:27:11

The hosts wrap up their discussion and tease future episodes, including a Diane Keaton focus.

“one of my games sure I really appreciate you I think you're both very special people sorry for no selling you it's okay I just got distracted by the pop-up ass.”
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1:15Sean Fennessey:I'm Sean Fennessey. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is the Big Picture, a conversation show about auctioning. Chris Ryan sits between us. It's a big bull over here. There's no auctioning that goes on here. Jack is like. Listen, the clock is back up on the display. The clock will be up. We've done one auction this year. Got a hot lunch date back there. Like, who cares about the clock? You want to hear Jack doing the bidding, accepting the bids in real time? It would be fun. Well, okay, maybe we'll explore that for 2027, but this is 2026. This is part two of our movie auction, and we're going to start selecting movies right after this.

1:57Sean Fennessey:This episode of The Big Picture is presented by Amazon Prime. One of the best things about streaming is that you never just pick a title. You pick a feeling, and Prime makes that easy. With great entertainment and fast shipping that brings the moment to life, Prime helps you experience the feeling you're craving. Shows you can't wait for and deliveries you don't wait for. One click away. From streaming to fast shipping, it's on Prime. okay we're back now this is relevant to what we're going to discuss here on this auction episode since we're at the halfway mark of the year but anybody watch the werewolf trailer yeah I watched part of it and I knew we were going to talk about it but it's a real it's it's important to me to know when things are for me and when things are not for me and things are for you and meaningful to you so delete your name from the episode right now we're on the schedule for December 24th.

2:44But you know that that's... Me and CR are in arm on Christmas Eve. Should we reconvene you, me, and Rob as the monster trail? I think so. Yeah. And I think top five

2:50Sean Fennessey:werewolf movies, done deal. Sure. You know, like that episode writes itself. The film, Robert Eggers' adaptation of the werewolf story. The trailer looks shockingly similar to the Nosferatu trailer. Now, is that a good thing or a bad thing? Because that movie is a big hit, very well reviewed, but looks iterative. And, And as someone who did actually both see Nosferatu and listen to your episode with Rob Mahoney, the villain of the big picture, three and a half years running, you guys walked out of it admiring but not enthusiastic. At very low levels. Yeah, there was a distance from Nosferatu. So to then remake a thing that you already felt I'd have removed from.

3:38I don't know. How are you feeling? Can I, I'll jump in and say, not to paraphrase myself from that podcast, but we discussed whether or not Eggers was Wes Anderson-ing, at least in terms of the perception of him as a filmmaker, that he A, liked to work in these little dioramas, but I would say even in the marketing of his films, perhaps is now leaning into a, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, kind of, don't change it. Don't cure this were-man. Yeah.

4:04Sean Fennessey:Don't let him be a demon. You guys want me to dig into another classic monster? I did. yeah I I noted on a text chain though which Chris is a part of this morning that like it did feel to me like the witch the lighthouse and the northman was like a progression different kinds of movies similar register but some funnier than others some in different time periods some with different uh emotional construction Nosferatu felt a little more like the witch the werewolf looks a lot like Nosferatu yeah so you know it's just a trailer we don't know but Nosferatu was such a big hit that it does make sense to just try to run it back.

4:42Sean Fennessey:Aaron Taylor Johnson is back. He was one of the stars of Nosferatu. Willem Dafoe, of course, is in it. He's in every movie that Eggers makes. I'm generally a big fan of Eggers. He's been on the show like nine times. Absolutely miserable every time he speaks to me.

4:57Sean Fennessey:And I look forward to the film. Miserable because he doesn't want to be a part of the promotion process? No, because I'm just like, Rob, tell me, in your heart, what are the thematic core elements My job here was to like recreate, what is it? 15th century English or whatever he's doing. Much like Wes Anderson, where I think everybody is like, looks like another fucking Wes Anderson movie. And then five years later, like, actually, this one had a lot of pathos. It's like, I wonder if that will start to happen for Eggers movies. I think that's insightful. Yeah, I think that's insightful. The movies are obviously incredibly well-made and beautiful in the sound design and the score and the costumes, production design, everything he does in that respect is top, top shelf.

5:36He's doing his thing in like in his room with his toys and does it very well. And then to your as you said, Nosferatu did extremely well at the box office. So like if it's not broke, do not fix it. I get it. I just put that on the poster. And I and I shall see it for professional reasons. But, you know, it's if you shan't, you shan't, you know. So, yeah,

6:01Sean Fennessey:you're channeling the werewolf English there. Yeah. OK, nice. did you have to do Beowulf in old English? in old English? middle English oh my god please don't the academics don't come for me that's what you think is going to incite response okay I bring that up because I'm curious if Werewolf will get picked up in this movie auction today we are you want to look back at the slate? do you want to address your outstanding concern? when is this episode coming out? July 2nd can I just say a trailer that I did think rocked yeah the weight oh Ethan Hawke yeah the Ethan Hawke Russell Crowe movie yeah yeah sure I have a link to that film right now that looks like Treasure of Sierra Madre that looks awesome it was a Sundance film and got very nice reviews out of Sundance so you're saying you like the idea of an adventure movie starring Ethan Hawke yeah hard to believe um I mean well don't spoil what you may want to grab that one you may want to acquire it this brings up a really great point Sean I think you did a wonderful job adding triggers and like, you know, a different layer of texture to this auction this year.

7:09But nothing. I think you did. How would you isolate that? How would you describe the modulation and your tone of voice just there? Deep respect for a fellow podcaster and friend. Sure. Yeah. I'll give him a kidney right now. Fellow podcaster first, friend second.

7:25Sean Fennessey:Yeah. It did change the texture of the films that I'm considering drafting because I have things I need. I need. I gotta do some stuff that is true do you have any general thoughts on the first half of the movie year and how you both grabbed films because we didn't grab too many movies that have come out already which I find kind of fascinating I was an idiot I think I could have well I think I could have chronologically broken the year up a lot more but then I guess it's dependent on you two as well yeah but I have a lot to I still have a like I have three films that need to like perform basically in the second half of the year what do you think?

8:08well of my feelings or of the I guess I think I did okay and even the the choices that I made that are sort of cringeworthy to myself and to myself you know identity are gonna work out for example I got the Mandalorian and Grogu for$19 is anyone happy with what happened there? no but did it meet the box office threshold? it did So I'm good, and now I can get a little frisky.

8:34Sean Fennessey:Yeah, there are upsides and downsides to that. If you've never listened to an auction episode before, welcome. This is an odd one to start with. I would encourage you to go back to January, maybe, and listen to the first one that we did. But we each attempt to acquire five titles, and we have$1 ,000 to spend on those five titles, which is an arbitrary number that makes a lot of sense when you really think about it. That's where the first half, and then the second half— I don't know if I've yet to spend$1 ,000. correctly. Well, and the money does not roll over? Or did we decide last time that it could roll over?

9:07Sean Fennessey:The money does not roll over. And that's notable. That's savings for taxpayers. Okay. That's right. CR, Amanda spent$1 ,000 last January. I spent$1 ,000. And Chris somehow has$679 remaining, which will now be dispersed to the masses of this fine country. Happy birthday, guys. I'll explain those triggers really quickly first. and those are new just if people are we did them last year I think as well yeah 2025-ish is when they came on board but if people are going to start at the beginning of the auction history things were a lot looser a lot crazier you really you soared so close to the sun and it was beautiful this is a format close to my heart yeah because it's all speculative and it's all it's all about betting on the future I'm gambling again right um 30 seconds per bid which we never abide by but we'll try to do that today movies that were previously auctioned off last year are once again eligible for future auctions.

10:04Sean Fennessey:So if you grabbed a movie last year, you can grab it again this year if it hasn't been yet taken. The category triggers are at least two films from the total slate of 10 films across the whole year must gross$100 million domestically. At least one film must receive at least two Oscar nominations. And at least one of your films must hit an 85 Metacritic score. Now that's very hard to do. only 13 films released in 2025 did that. No more than two sequels on your slate. And that is where taking something like The Mandalorian and Grogu is a very strategic choice with upsides and downsides. You're almost assured$100 million domestically, but then a sequel is off the board for you.

10:46Sean Fennessey:Now you've only got one left. So let's go through our slates from January quickly. Amanda, since you already teased one, why don't you go through yours? So I have Dune Part 3, which I paid$775. Sorry, I guess I forgot numbers for a minute there. That was my disclosure day happening. Project Hail Mary for$200. Thank you. Thanks. It was, you know, that was late breaking, but thank you. The Social Reckoning for$1, which means that you guys were just like, you left me hanging. And that's fine. I deserve it. Verity,$5 and Mandalorian and Grogu for$19. Okay. So, so far you've hit... Did you get any Metacritic?

11:29No. None of us have Metacritic yet.

11:31Sean Fennessey:So you do yours, and then we'll do through all the thresholds we've hit already. Oh, okay. I picked Wuthering Heights for$75 and also talked about my experiences romantically. You did. And how many land acknowledgements have you given since that podcast? Oh, is that what that was? Okay, I'd forgotten. Just count it down for us. I take it. Let's go night by night. Go to your journal. Once I've done one somewhere, Southern California is blessed. Do you know what I mean? You're going regionally. I'm looking forward. I'm possibly going to Florida in September, and I can't wait to commune with my seminal brothers.

12:09You've never spread your seed in that part of the land. Think really carefully. That's a really good question. I think I actually have. No kidding. When was that? Florida. I was young. I was a young kid. Like six, seven? I'm really talking here. Jesus. You said young. I was younger. I'm almost 50. Wow. Okay. Are you almost 50? Florida's yes. What are we doing for 5-0? No one's paying attention to me. A couple of ideas. A couple ideas. The Raleigh Hotel. It was a great time. London was in the mix. For 5-0. Bacchanalian dance party is in the mix. Where would that take place? Los Angeles. I thought we were doing London.

12:50I'd like to go to London for my 50th. Yeah. Okay. I'd like to come too. I'm trying to get Cy to the point where he could fly. I thought maybe you were like I'll just hit three. Or I guess I could get a babysitter. We could talk it out. I think Knox would like it so much though. You got him so much London stuff now. He knows all the he wants to go see Big Ben. That's true.

13:11Sean Fennessey:It's Amanda invited. You're the only person invited. It's just me and you. I got Wuthering Heights, Resident Evil I took for$72. Devil Wears Prod to for$26. The Adventures of Cliff Booth for$76. And Disclosure Day for$72. I still have$679 million. I think your slate is fascinating. It was interesting. My slate is a bit more lopsided financially. I got The Odyssey for$926. I won't be doing that strategy again. I'll just let you know right now. Toy Story for$1. Narnia the Magician's Nephew for$18. Which has now been punted to 2027. by Netflix. And I read the whole book for nothing. You know? Yeah.

13:57Because you think you're going to forget everything by the time it comes out?

14:01Sean Fennessey:Not ideal when you read it to a four-year-old and then you just got to sit on your hands for a year and wait. And 2027, like, award season 2027? No, it's like February, March. I'm getting nervous. I'm good. Yeah, no, it's that was kind of buried because everyone was like, oh, wow, it's getting a full release and they're doing it. But yeah, it's like early April. It's alarm bells are going off. We can talk about this more over the next nine months, I guess, but Alice watched The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe adaptation from the 2000s yesterday and enjoyed it, but it's weird. And the Narnia material, having read it, is very strange and obviously very Christian-coded.

14:43February 12th, 27th in theaters, April 2nd on Netflix for Easter. Easter weekend on Netflix. So you can celebrate as a part of your holy week.

14:52Sean Fennessey:Yeah, well, we'll see where I'm at on my spiritual journey by then. I got Digger for$5. Yeah. Interesting gamble. And Jack of Spades for$50, a movie that still does not yet have a release date. That's Joel Coen. That's the Joel Coen film, which I suspect will be a fall film festival movie, but we just don't know about that. Now, you got Cliff Booth, which slid into that Greta Gerwig narnia spot. Yeah. And it is opening on 1 ,000 IMAX screens, but I think only has a limited engagement. Are you surprised there has not been a single whisper about like man it's really good Cliff Booth yeah it's been lock and key I've not heard a single thing about it yeah not a single thing I think that's yeah I mean I would like to to see it I would like to know more it seems like it's not going to be at the Venice Film Festival even though Netflix has yeah what makes you say that was there a report yeah the most recent reports are that it was it's not on the list and then but the Denzel Robert Pattinson Here Comes the Flood yes Here Comes the Flood will be one of the Netflix I'm excited about that.

15:52Selections at Venice instead.

15:54Sean Fennessey:But that movie is on the board. That's the movie I've been pointing to the most this year where I'm like, why is this movie going straight to Netflix? Is it five Pattinson's this year? I believe so. And it'll be the drama, the Odyssey, Dune Part 3, Primetime, and Here Comes the Flood. That's my guy. Quite a year from the guy. So threshold check-in sequel. I've got one. Okay. which was Toy Story 5 Amanda's got 2 so you're capped out yep Chris has got 2 you're capped out now you took Dune Part 3 and The Mandalorian and Grogu both of which are going to cross the$100 million threshold so you wise choices on your part if Dune Part 3 doesn't cross$100 million domestically we've got big problems CR you've got Cliff Booth and Devil Wears Prada 2 now Devil Wears Prada 2 huge hit yeah Cliff Booth gonna be tough to get to 100 gonna be real tough So Disclosure Day is currently at, I believe,$94.8 million domestic box office.

16:55And I would like to say this. Yeah. I personally guarantee it's$100 million. If no one goes to see Disclosure Day for the rest of its theatrical run, I will guarantee it. That will wipe me out. I am assuring you that that will wipe me out.

17:10Sean Fennessey:But I don't understand. So are you going to go to a local AMC and donate$5 million on behalf of Disclosure Day? Is that something one can do? I don't know. I don't know but like did you know that Donald Trump could be president like good point let's just try and those are just similar acts I would say in terms of their life changing consequences I am back stopping disclosure day is what I'm saying so I am gonna and then be operating as if it has crossed it's gonna make six more million dollars right I believe so yeah I think so we didn't really get into where you are on the alien podcast um on the because Van signed up immediately I don't know that he's heard it because he hasn't seen the film oh Oh, you haven't seen the film.

17:49Which I should probably do that for the box office. I was going to say, so that's$15. Yeah, there you go. We're getting there, Steve.

17:59Sean is considering rededicating his life to the study of alien interactions. That is what was said.

18:07Sean Fennessey:Okay. What was said was in the event that this was revealed to be true, which is one of the orienting ideas of the movie, I said I would turn I would transform this show into a show about aliens the big picture yes and what did she want to do well I was I was surprised by that I mean that's always the answer do you think aliens like the beach not explored in Steven Spielberg's disclosure day M. Night Shyamalan's aliens do not like the water yeah right we know that but that's that's a different you know a race of aliens that we know did they get in the water in War of the Worlds I can't remember sure yeah because they're out on the boat Oh, yeah.

18:43Sean Fennessey:They're out on the ferry. And then the ships come up from underneath the water. That's right. That's a very upsetting scene. Very traumatizing. You're avoiding Disclosure Day. Why? This is just fell right in the middle of a tremendous amount of travel and a tremendous amount of television for me. And I feel really bad about it, especially like when I keep knocking out things like Sheep Detective. Did you like that? You know what? I found it quite pleasant to watch. It's great. Yeah. It wasn't unpleasant. Yeah, those rams, they were pretty funny. Yeah. I feel bad, but I haven't seen it. I will.

19:21Sean Fennessey:Which ram is more powerful? The ram that rams Jasper and Jackass best than last? Or the rams from Sheep Detectives? I'm a thousand percent team Jackass in terms of the usage of rams in cinema in 2026. Yes. Yeah. With respect to Sheep Detectives, which is quite nice. But I guess my... So wait, do you want to do your triggers of what you did or did you do Amari? well for the 100 million threshold you pointed out that you've already got one and you're about to get a second almost certainly disclosure day will cross 100 million I given the way the winds are blowing I think Resident Evil has a shot it's absolutely possible Amanda has already got two on her slate because she also has Project Hail Mary which is a very smart pickup and I've got one right now so I need to get one more Toy Story 5 soaring right past I just did the math and you would need to see disclosure day 300 ,000 and 33 times in order to single-handedly get it over the box office.

20:14Sean Fennessey:300 ,033 times. It's 3333333.3333. If anybody behind the glass would like to do the math on how much time that would take, I would love to know. How many hours? Yeah. Okay. I think it'd be long dead. Yeah. I would guess before you could clock this. You haven't seen Disclosure Day once. You're going to see it 25 ,000 times? Yeah. I wish you luck here's the sticky wicket none of us have unlocked the Metacritic's 85 score this is always the hardest thing to do however I'm almost certainly going to get a$100 million threshold with the Odyssey which means we'll all have that you guys don't have a sequel to play with but I still have a sequel to play with but that's actually fine because sequels very rarely get an 85 threshold anyway so we have a lot of open terrain here so I think what this could be is what are you pumped about?

21:10Sean Fennessey:What are you most excited about? Now that you're basically like, now we're in it for art. You know? And that's what this whole thing is about anyway. Many people are saying. Has anything gotten to 85 on Metacritic this year? Yes, but I don't know about any mainstream wide release. Did Blue Heron get 85? I would guess it did. I would guess it did. Let's look it up right now. You guys can vamp while I look this up. The other complicating thing here is that a number of the films that are more likely to make it to 85 or above were screened at the Cannes Film Festival, which means that they are ineligible for two of the three people on this draft.

21:46Sean Fennessey:I'm going to talk through that as well. You're going to need, you're going to, you've got some shortcuts. That's right. You have to make good decisions. I'll give you a quick list of films that have already crossed it. And this is very helpful for you in terms of your bidding here. Once Upon a Time in Harlem is a documentary that premiered at Sundance that Amanda and I saw at Cannes. Blue Heron, in fact, has a 92 right now. you know the next film with a 92 is Ross McElwee's remake I don't know if you're familiar with him documentarian who famously explores his own life through these particular frameworks and I watched this movie this weekend and it is absolutely devastating so I just want to recommend when it comes out in July that people check out remake it's a beautiful really really sad movie teenage sex and death at camp miasma we've seen that not eligible to us oh what but what is that's sitting at 91 right now.

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22:34Sean Fennessey:Oh, good. That's a little bit of a red herring because it's not wide release. And I do think that that number on that movie, because that movie I think is going to be a little more divisive and will come down a bit. Fatherland, we saw it can. Pavel Pablakowski's new movie. Silent Friend, which is a movie starring Tony Leung that came out in April. Sound of Falling, which was a Cannes 2025 film. Magellan, which came out earlier this year. Pompeii, Below the Clouds. Ourland, Epic, the Elvis Presley movie. Blue Film, which I've not yet seen. My Father's Shadow. And coming in at number 15, The Furious, is sitting at 85, which I find to be fascinating.

23:11Sean Fennessey:So 85 is a little trickier for us because Amanda and I have seen so many movies that we know are going to be critically acclaimed. For example, Fjord or Paper Tiger. Sure, yeah. Or I've seen Joseph Eaton out of Sundance. So those are all off the table for us in addition to the ones we just mentioned. How do you feel about – how much attention do you pay to festival chatter? Because this is the first year really ever where Amanda and I get to be like, well, we saw the Cannes movies. I mean, it's bad for the auction. It's probably good for me. And I do pay attention to it because I think it's...

23:45I'm kind of fascinated by what's in it for the movies at this point. Because it just feels like... I don't know if those festivals necessarily are making an impact outside of their bubble. But it does feel like if things go bad, it starts a snowball rolling downhill of Joker's a turkey. This is, you know. So it feels like, to Amanda's point about Cliff Booth's not going to be at Venice. I don't know if it's going to be in New York or whatever, but like, why bother? You know, like why not just be like...

24:15Sean Fennessey:Yeah, one battle after another and Sinner's skipped festivals altogether. And that certainly didn't hurt them in the Oscar race. Yeah. I was thinking last night as a, and this is a completely self-serving proposal, but like maybe they should think about it. someone should buy artificial and take it to Venice. Why? Why? Because all they have on their side now is noise. And this is not what you wanted to see. And they have movie stars and they have a big premiere and this like, oh. I love this idea. I'm unfortunately a little cash poor right now. Yeah, you're tapped out. Because I have a note against my holdings.

24:49Sean Fennessey:You're down 5.2 million, unfortunately, so you can't chip in on this. Yeah. Now, let's try to unpack a little bit because you would like to see the film I would like to see the film on the Lido yes well I'd like to see the film I'm a fan of the work of Luca Guadagnino and also Free Speech and interesting will you be as as passionate about Jonah Hill's cut off being released good point where's that film sure I would like to see that also just making sure you know both sides how many of your pods are considered unreleasing John yeah John Just one episode has never made it off the computer. I was on that one too.

25:31Yeah.

25:32Sean Fennessey:We shan't speak of it again. Okay. That's a little lore drop for you with no lore. Mm-hmm. Okay, so you want to see it in Venice or you want to see it in general, but Venice would be nice. I feel like it's a good launch pad. It would make noise. Like Luca makes it, you know, it's a home base for him. Someone should do something like that. It'll leave out. But let's just play it out. Let's say for the sake of this conversation that the film is not strong and not received well critically. Right. And a distributor has paid$30 million or$50 million to take the movie off of Amazon's hands. And then the movie does very poorly at the festival.

26:06Sean Fennessey:Right. To Chris's point, is that dramatically worse for it? Because that really, I think it wounded after the hunt, it getting a very poor reception in Venice last year. I do think that's true, though I think it also, like, they knew ahead of time, like, it was not in competition, which is then you just shouldn't be going. You shouldn't do it. So I guess if Venice is not willing to put it in competition. But I think it's a win for everybody. And I do also think that unless the critics are going to be, I think critics will probably be softer to this movie given the history and given the fact that it got pulled because of corporate reasons rather than any artistic reasons and would be willing to forgive it faults that maybe they were not willing to forgive in After the Hunt.

26:52Also, just for the record, you know, after the hunt, they just left us out in the rain for an hour in a thunderstorm, which once again, I would encourage people to not do that. If you want a positive critical reception, these things do matter. And also I liked what I saw in Venice. It was when I saw the end that I maxed out. It just seems like they don't have a lot of good options and that could be a funny one. And I do think that making a spectacle and leaning into this was like canceled from you and taken from you is the only way to get it off the ground. Okay.

27:22Sean Fennessey:I agree. That's just my pitch. But you won't be contributing to the fund. I'm just stretched thin right now. Understandable. Any other thoughts? I mean, you know, 85 is going to be tough to hit, but you know that there are some titles out there that are critically acclaimed. There's some pretty obvious layups there. And I also still will be auctioning from the heart. There's a couple of... That's beautiful. That no one has seen yet that I am still a big believer in and also for the sake of the auction would love to get them out in open competition. Okay. I think it's safe to say that Amanda and I will already have the two Oscar nominations locked up between The Odyssey and Project Hail Mary and probably Dune Part 3 as well.

28:09Sean Fennessey:I'm not sure if I can say the same yet for your slate. Do you think that Emily Blunt will be nominated for Disclosure Day? I think it's possible. I would really like for it to happen. I think the movie has a very mixed reception. She's almost universally acclaimed. She does not have a mixed reception, but it is a June movie, and you got to consider that Universal will probably be putting most of its energies behind the Odyssey when it comes to this sort of thing. I would encourage them to... I think people really like Emily Blunt. It's very obvious that she is very liked within the industry. She's very liked...

28:41Sean Fennessey:She has fans. She's made not very many good movies in the last 10 years, and it doesn't really matter. She's having a huge year because Devil Wears Prada 2 is also massive. I think it'd be wise to, but it's not a guarantee. She got nominated for Smashing Machine? She did not. Yeah, but I do think also they can sit tight for a while, get through the Odyssey, and that's just a very classic, put her back on the trail in October or November. People love to see her. It is a really good performance. You know, and it could also, she could be in Best Actress, and Odyssey is probably going to have only supporting actress nominations when you're thinking about it in terms of the way they're putting things together.

29:20So there's a lane.

29:21Sean Fennessey:It's interesting. I mean, obviously I already have the movie on my slate, but we're having this conversation before having seen The Odyssey and hopefully we'll see it soon. But I think that dictates a lot of the thresholds and a lot of the expectations for the rest of the year. I do not anticipate Cliff Booth being an Oscar movie. I don't anticipate Resident Evil getting the weapons bump. It seems far more gory, but who knows? Makeup. Oh, there you go, bro. Makeup is in play. Do they have an intimacy coordinator Oscar? I get that for Wuthering Heights. Do you think they did a good job? I didn't see Wuthering Heights.

29:57Did you not? I just didn't. Yeah, I'm sorry. She was like, I don't think you'd like it that much. I will see it by the time. The end of the year. It's at home. On HBO Max. I like going to the movie theater. It's not that. I'm talking with you guys.

30:12Sean Fennessey:Because it's written and directed by a woman. Is that the issue? No. No. No? what if I zagged on Wuthering Heights? What if I went back to it and I found something in it that's for me? That would be great. We welcome you with open arms. I'll rewatch it. Okay. Emerald Fennel, I'm trying to figure it out. We know. We've heard it. I like that it exists. What is she doing next? Yeah. Something crazy, right? Yes. Oh my God, what is it? Emerald Fennel, what's she doing next? Transformers? Honestly, I would like to see you deal with that. And I feel like they would have I'm pretty close. Yeah, I mean, Autobots and Decepticons, fucking, I would be really intrigued by that.

30:51Next movie, did you find it?

30:53Sean Fennessey:There were rumors of a basic instinct reboot, but she shot them down. Okay. I'm not totally sure. Okay, okay. Well, whatever she does, I'm sure it'll be warmly received with an open mind. Any thoughts before we get into the auction? No. You ready to do it? Yeah. Do you have any procedural thoughts about how we've been doing these over the last four years? I honestly can't remember because they do, they've evolved and there are new kind of rules and I didn't remember that we did the clock in January we tried there was a lot of like oh I'll bid one dollar so that I can keep prattling on well yeah but that's part of the fun yeah these are always great to do when I haven't seen you over a weekend so we haven't run through any of our stuff yeah you know what I mean no I'm looking forward to that I said to you guys off mic it was a weekend of extremes and I'm just I'm glad to be back with my bros let's mix it up okay How do we determine who goes first?

31:46Here we go. Shaking up the Dungeons and Dragons die. For the record, Chris Ryan would need to spend 92 years to get that Disclosure Day money. You know what? That is producing. Thank you, guys. Well done. Should this be what starts me down my wellness journey of prolonging my life? How is your wellness journey going? Fine. What are the focuses these days? This is why we auction. Chris Ryan is selecting first. Sean Fennessey second. Amanda third. Okay. So do you want to think about what you're doing or do you want to tell me about your macros? I'm trying to live as healthily, but also as happily as I can.

32:24It's important to have balance. So just kind of like a blue zone diet. I think what's hard about weightlifting is you have to be consistent with it. And I've been traveling a lot. Okay. And so being consistent with my lifting has been difficult. You don't go to the hotel gym? Do you want to come to the hotel gym with me in Toronto? Oh, God. In some ways, I think that that would give me incredible insight into who you are. We could do one of the videos together. Would I be spotting you? No, you would do it too. You would also do it. Like exactly what you do? Yes, we would follow a video and then...

33:03Can I help? No, I'd like to see that happen. Anyway. Okay. Yeah, it's going okay. Okay. But like you go to Chicago for three days and you're like, I'm dying. Yeah. Like it's just, you leave the little. It's true. Kale cocoon here. And you see how the other half lives and you're like, God damn, these people are so much happier. But they're all dead at 64. I ate the entire loaf of bread. That's true. My first film that I'm going to put up for auction. And I'm doing this because I want to get everybody involved. Okay.

33:36Sean Fennessey:What? Such an elegant communicator. Is Tony Gilroy's Behemoth. Okay. Okay. Which does not have a date as of yet. But it's going to Venice, right? Is it? Behemoth Venice Film Festival. Let's see. It feels like a Telluride movie to me. I think it's going to be at festivals. This stars Pedro Pascal and Will Arnett, who both replaced at various points Oscar Isaac and David Harbour, respectively, as well as Olivia Wilde. It's about a cellist who plays in orchestras for film soundtracks, for film scores. It's Tony Gilroy's first film theatrical feature that he's directing since The Bourne Legacy, but I think also notably, obviously, Michael Clayton.

34:19It's his first work since Andor. And it feels like an incredibly personal and idiosyncratic expression of interest in the cinematic arts, but also like a guy at a crossroads. I'm really, really, really excited for it. The most notable thing to know about this is apparently nine composers worked on this film. I'm looking at that right now.

34:41Sean Fennessey:Among them, James Newton Howard and Alan Silvestri, two of the more seasoned and accomplished composers. So let me ask you this, Sean, as I bid 30 bucks for this to start with. Let me ask you this. On the timer, wow. When you get a best original score nomination, do you think having that many different people working on it makes it more complicated or do you think it's like a layup that this gets a nom? $50. I think it depends on how good the movie is I think if the movie doesn't work at all then you won't have to consider it very much but if it's well reviewed and you've got all of these people that are so renowned it makes it easier and then they'll just cut that puppy into nine ways right I know that casting will be like a big deal when we get to this Oscars $70 this is number two on my list so I could see the duel of the fates here could be 75 I'll do 90 I could see this being like a nice plank for them to be like let's talk about what an amazing contribution composers have made to cinematic history and to Hollywood at the Oscars I think but then you also have John Williams eligible in the same category so and still alive so you're gonna give it to Iron Sharpens Iron okay that could be your second Oscar nomination for Disclosure Day what's going on in House of Dragon?

36:09115 120 130 135 140 Do you want to come to Venice? I won't be able to come to Venice I'm sorry What are you doing?

36:21Sean Fennessey:What do you got going on that week? I think I'm potting with you while she's gone and we're talking about Resident Evil for five straight episodes No, you're doing on the I'll be a Telluride Yeah But you are joining me for quite a long time in August when she goes away Thank you for that Let me have my own episode of the big picture If you want one of those August episodes you can take it straight to camera, straight to Jack. What are you going to do? Wuthering Heights. Rewinds. Solo. 150.

36:47Sean Fennessey:Honestly, if you want to grab an August release and you want to put your arms around it and put the CR touch on it, 160. I would be delighted. Is it the dog stars perfect? Michael Mann? But I'm back for that. Oh, right. Sorry. And listen, that's Ridley and that's my guy. Yeah, Jacob Elordi and Ridley. He's very tall. We're going to have to rank every really. 180. We've never done that before. It would be fun if we ranked every Jacob Balorty performance. Did you watch any of Euphoria? No. No. But the important parts got to me. You know? Behemoth, I just, I'll be stunned if it's bad. Stunned. I know.

37:22There is like a little bit. Duplicity exists, right? Yeah.

37:25Sean Fennessey:But it's not. You know my duplicity. He's in the pocket for us. Go ahead. That's a movie that if you do it 10 times, then nine other times it's better than what we got. That's my take. We've agreed on that because they were like, what movie do you want? One of the mailbag questions was like, what movie would you redo? And I was like, change nothing. Just try it again. I believe in you guys. That's your take. That's a great take. 200. 210. This is a Searchlight movie. Searchlight famously did not have a film nominated for Best Picture last year. 230. It broke a 14-year streak, I believe, for the studio.

38:00Sean Fennessey:They're getting big on this. But as you say, the movie does not have a release date. I believe production is completed yes I saw that it screened there was a test screening that was received positive feedback 250 from whom? where did I read that? no who gave the positive feedback? the test screening audience was Trump there? no I think it was like you know a bunch of people in Covina who got to see it what's the number? 250 250 for behemoth with an exclamation point how do you feel about putting punctuation in a film title? I'm into it I think it's cool whatever happened to baby Jane question mark well certainly any film that's a question deserves a question mark not always um I mean maybe Disclosure Day would have done even better if they had been like how do you know directed by James L.

38:48Brooks does not feature a question right and that worked out it's dangerous do you think L.O. McKay would have done better if they put an exclamation point at the end L.O. McKay

38:55Sean Fennessey:uh in Tarot Bang you know that would have been that would have been something that would have been a new move uh airplane exclamation point 260 270 Mamma Mia exclamation point oh yeah that's a good one 285 Oklahoma exclamation point that thing not a good film no a really really boring film uh that thing you do exclamation point that's a great one 30 years this year also I gotta yeah rewatchables well I listen I know you don't pitch things we don't ask you know you don't mention it we don't ask you know it's you just keep your head down you do the work you hope that the sun shines on you next time you're around Bill you should just hum that Wonders song.

39:33Sean Fennessey:I'm about to win. Oh,$290. $300. Are we going a little crazy for Behemoth? This is a Tony Gilroy podcast. Okay. You erased me from the Andor conversation because I haven't seen it yet. That's fine. But... I'm sorry, I was watching movies for a movie podcast. Do you think you'll make time to watch all of Andor? at some point I'd really like to this movie also stars Ava Victor Matthew Lillard and Margarita Leviev and if you know who Margarita Leviev is you know that's a special person currently on Cape Fear on this podcast we believe that Michael Clayton is an underrated legal thriller I think I did Michael Clayton did you ever have a song like that no but 315 320 was it in New York where one of the live shows, I drafted Michael Clayton and then did like the, you know, in this house, we believe.

40:34And I guess it was New York where they don't have that many yard signs and people were like, what are you talking about? And then I had to explain to the entire crowd. So there's a thing with the yard signs. Is it 320 or 350? It's 320.

40:46Sean Fennessey:I'll do 335. If I'm able to book Tony Gilroy to appear on this podcast, do you have to be there with me? No, I mean, Tony, would you like to be there? I think that the Ringer Podcast Network presents so many different opportunities to express different parts of themselves. For instance, Taylor Sheridan went on Bill's pod last night. How'd that feel? That felt great. I thought that was two leaders talking about how they run organizations. And how would you describe their leadership styles? Different. No other adjectives? I think that Bill is a little bit more accessible than Taylor. What's Bill's macro strategy these days.

41:26I think he walks in saunas. Yeah, that's true. And doesn't eat. I do know about those. 350. The informant exclamation point.

41:34Sean Fennessey:One of my favorites. That's a great one. 375. 400. Do we think the titular behemoth is the man? Or is it the composition? Is it the art form? I wonder if it's the thing that he is currently scoring. Although I believe this goes to several different parts of his life. You know. Some phases. Yeah. in the storytelling that I've heard. Edited by John Gilroy's brother. Yep. You look at it closely so you can try to secure this one? Well, at a certain point, it's nut cutting time, you know? Can you illuminate that metaphor for Amanda? I don't really need more. It's a good, it's a sport. It's one of those things that's probably...

42:13I love it, I have it! 32! We've been in 40... Woo!

42:16Sean Fennessey:I would say for the record, we touched like 45 multiple times. We touched 45 multiple times. keep it running, go. 410, yeah. Let's go. I have it. I have it. I'll try and do nut cutting time before. It's a sports phrase, but it's not a sports phrase. Okay. So I know it. Why would you cut your nuts? Well put. I don't really know. It's like. Is that what a vasectomy is, right? It is. 425. But no, you're cutting the vast deference in a vasectomy. That's like inside the nut. Okay. Yeah. Sorry that I know what's up. That's exactly right. Have you. have you some might say you cut nuts on a regular basis that's one of your one of your skills 435 435 is there such a thing as a nut tuck sure silence of the lambs no no no no like a plastic surgery procedure 440 oh like a lifted yeah to avoid a bad grandpa situation yeah to avoid a bad grandpa situation why are you looking at me like that I don't know I'm just well just tighten it up yeah maybe you don't want it hanging around maybe it's getting in the way uh oh I guess that's true so that's not a thing that you guys are worried about.

43:22Sean Fennessey:It's like bringing the yo-yo back. Oh, like Robert Evans. Walk the dog and then roll it up. Yeah. $4.50. Robert Evans? I was going to say Robert Evans seems like the kind of guy who would have gotten a nut tug. Get the nuts tug. May he rest in peace. What do you know about shaft construction? It seems like very delicate skin. Penis shaft construction? I just said shaft construction. You extrapolated that out. Okay, because we're talking about plastic surgery on the genitalia. We are? Yeah. I thought we were talking about something else. I never answered your question. It's like when somebody performs in the clutch, it's like, hey, man, it's not coming time.

44:04It's time for you to go. Okay. But I don't think it's an appropriate phrase and I would not use it in my personal life. 490. Just on this podcast. 500. 510.

44:16Sean Fennessey:Is this the only movie that all three of us really want? Here's the stupid part. is like I can back off and let you guys have it and then I can just take a bunch of stuff for a dollar. What we learned last time, stay in the mix. Because there are no, there are no production stills. There's no trailer for this movie. I feel like you're not hanging with me today and I don't know why. I think your energy is throwing me off but it's also like brilliant. Like I can't, it's like, I feel like I'm getting tanned but I don't know why. Like you're just radiating today. Like normally, like normally you're riding with me.

44:45Is it like that time change? what time change like we're later is it because you're on your second podcast oh no no no you can't slow me down at bats I'm fine interesting 550 560 did you think that we're going to be up in the fives for behemoth for Tony Gilroy

45:07Sean Fennessey:I'm really glad you started here this was good you brought a good energy it's a movie we're excited about but I was saying there's no production still there's no trailer there's no release date there's nothing we don't know anything about this movie. That is what we do here on the action. We believe, you know? Yeah, it's fair. It's a movie by Tony Gilroy about the beauty of movie music. That's your shit. We don't know if that's what it's about. What do you think it's about? I don't know. Godzilla? The Cure for Baldness. 565. That's what Duplicity's about. Oh, right. Okay. Sorry. Great idea. Great idea.

45:38Yeah. I was like, I took that personally. Sorry.

45:42Sean Fennessey:Gotta go back and look at Duplicity. Yeah. That's the very powerful corporate product that the espionage is working over. Can we talk about Landon Donovan's hair changes? I mean, I haven't had this conversation with you. He's going through a journey with his hair and he's documented it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got... Documented it? Yeah, he had like transplants that didn't take or plugs or something and then this is a wig that he's wearing. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a wig? It looked like it. I mean, it looked like it. He documented it. He's like, this is a wig. I need to do this to feel...

46:15Good. That's good. Really? Yeah. Honestly, I respect it. I do too.

46:21Sean Fennessey:Who gives a fuck anymore? 580. If that makes you feel better, just do it. Right? I agree. Not hurting anybody. Yeah. I like hats. I'll tell you what, he scored one of the most electrifying goals of all time. So he'll always have that. Against Algeria. I remember it vividly. I was sitting at my desk while I was working at eMusic, and everyone was pretending to work that day, and they were all watching the game on their computers, and everyone collectively stood up and shouted. Yeah. I was like, this is a United Nation. Klinsman sliding out of the office it was wonderful Chris you're I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna do 590 okay stay in it I'm in it I'm in it emotionally I'm in it I just this is between the two of you economically I could honestly go up to 995 and then I can get a bunch of movies that you guys have already seen for like a dollar yeah but that seems you gotta get that yeah you could do that you could do that you could do that so maybe we should make you do that mmhmm you can make me do it I'll go to$595.

47:17Sean Fennessey:I guess, as I said, this is... I'll go to$600. $600. Yeah. So what trigger do you think this is going to cross? Personal happiness, which, you know, is sort of... It's the only one that matters. I was excited about Project Hail Mary and I liked it. I'm looking forward to Dune Part 3. But like I said, my self-respect when I look at this, I wasn't painting entirely my picture. Yeah, you want to love your slate. I know what you mean. 615 I'm not saying this a mess right now Pedro Pascal I have some questions Leading man I have some questions Fantastic Four The First Steps was not it that was not it You will be in Doomsday Was that his fault because that character is just like I'm too smart to live I think there's an opportunity for a great Reed Richards and he's miscast I think he's very miscast Also he's he's the last girl He's the smartest guy in the world Yeah but it's like I'm too smart for my own I can't.

48:15If you're so smart, figure out how to manage it.

48:17Sean Fennessey:I relate to Reed Richards. I bet you do. It's just the burden of greatness. Who just got this for 6.15 as we approach 40 seconds? No one did. 6.20.

48:356.20.

48:37Sean Fennessey:I think Amanda really wants it. What are you going to do with that? 6.50 best and final. 6.55. We've done this before. it's too early to do best and final my man at 650 that's nothing that's peanuts for behemoth it's gonna probably get like an 80 Metacritic not get nominated and make 12 million dollars but there'll be lawn signs strewn throughout Los Angeles do you know how many selfies I'm gonna take outside the premiere and send to you like it's me on the leader so that's great me and him will be podcasting about Resident Evil based in blood 660 I'm out 665 I'm out sure you are I rolled the ball down the hill remember when he was in Triple Frontier that was great Pedro?

49:26yeah playing the fifth lead well but the magic happened Tim Simons recently watched Triple Frontier and then had the temerity to tell me that he didn't think it was good I don't know whether he wanted that aired on a podcast he's a brave man and he and he goes with his own. Yeah. Netflix's Tim Simon said that? I'm like, did I get him in trouble?

49:47Sean Fennessey:It's at 665. I've got it. No, you don't. What do you mean? It would be really cool. Amanda has it. See the A? A is for 665. I didn't know that's what that was for. What did you think that was for? 670. I don't know. Can you read the A? I can read. Thank you. I'm able to read. He read The Lion, the Witch, and the Reworker. and I was doing it. No, I'm reading The Magician's Nephew. It was more of a checking in on the cliff and the eyesight, 675. Oh, you know, actually it hit me last week. Yeah, I know. I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. That's why I'm asking you. Do you have to get your contacts changed?

50:21Sean Fennessey:Well, I don't know, but I looked down at a phone after getting out of a movie and I was like, oh no, it's over. No, it's done. Do you know where I'm at? Tell us. I have TV glasses, which are different than these glasses that I use to watch TV because I can't have my... Does the shit look so bad? Yeah. Yeah. Because the TV shows, they look terrible. to make them look better because they're TV because they suck. That's good. I'm just gonna fucking stop buying DVDs if you keep talking like that, you know? You're only hurting yourself. I have to wear different glasses to watch television. I did actually get a separate prescription to wear over my contacts to help screens look better.

50:57Yeah. But then I didn't... 685. And they're just to make... I mean, they're effectively reading glasses that go with my contacts because I have famously incredibly bad vision. But... Then there were, I actually need different. Most of the time when I'm reading, I'm not wearing my contacts. I'm wearing my glasses. So we didn't do it right. I got to start over. But the cliff is real. A for 685. So I'm just to be clear. I'm not there yet. Because I'm not 74. Yeah. I'm out. You're out. Okay. Well, it's you and me. Seven. Seven 15. I feel like you want it more than me. And I love Tony Gilroy. Well, I just.

51:36Sean Fennessey:I'm going to tell Tony this when he's on the show. I'm going to say Chris sat here. Your friend Chris Ryan sat here. He would not understand anything about what just transpired. It doesn't matter. I'll explain the whole thing. He read every book there is about revolution, and he would be like, what you guys are doing contributes nothing. If I have to spend the entire 37 minutes allotted from Tony Gilroy's publicist, explaining this movie auction, I will do it. And how I betrayed him? Yes. If I can get to that bottom line. Congratulations to you. Thanks so much. Thank you. Behemoth? Yeah. Sold.

52:06Yes.

52:07Sean Fennessey:to Amanda Dobbins for$715. We should introduce a gavel. I don't know why I didn't think of that. Can we get some sort of sonic effect? You should punch in. No, I think I need that. I actually meant to talk to you, Chris. I need to record some stuff with you in the near future. Okay. We can get that going. Some drops. Damn, son. Where'd you find Behemoth? Okay. Damn, son. They replaced Oscar Isaac. Do you think, sight unseen, it would have been better with Isaac over Pascal? I think Tony knows best. Wow. Yeah. However that worked out. You just bent the knee even though you wouldn't take the film.

52:44I've done the work, man.

52:46Sean Fennessey:You have. You have. I've shouted from every sidewalk. Have you heard the good news about Andor? You have. You have. Okay, who... Do I put up next or Amanda? Sean is up next. Sorry, I assume you're not going to be nominating films that you can't bid on. That doesn't make much sense. No, that's verboten in this game. If you've seen the movie, you can't put the movie up for auction. Nor can you bid on it. I guess not. Yeah. Because you can't win it. Right? So that takes some critical Oscar films off the board. I would say. I haven't seen, actually, at this time of the year, usually, I've seen at least a couple of the bigger releases.

53:23Sean Fennessey:I haven't seen any of the bigger releases this year. Mm-hmm. I'm in the dark. So no toe-dip screenings for me on any of this stuff. I'll tell you what I'm really excited about. is Primetime. Of course. That's what I'm going to put up. Okay. Because I might need some more Oscar nominations. I'm quite curious about how this movie will be received. This is the feature fictional debut from Lance Oppenheim, documentarian. And it is a, I guess it's a, it's a, it's a portrait of To Catch a Predator and Chris Hansen. Chris Hansen, yeah. Movie stars Robert Pattinson. Sounds like it'll be the coup de grace in his year.

54:03Sean Fennessey:Buzz is, best actor awaits him this nomination? We don't know anything. We've just seen a one-minute teaser of this movie. That's it. A24 movie coming out, I guess, in the fall. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but can you start getting nominated for multiple films? Like, can Robert Pattinson just be nominated for, like, being good this year? No. I think you can be nominated in the same category twice. That's what the rule is now. So, for example, So, Robert Pattinson could get nominated for the Odyssey, and the drama as supporting actor. Correct. I believe that was the rule change. You can check me on that, Amanda.

54:41Yes, actors may be nominated for multiple performances in the same category if those performances place in the top five votes.

54:47Sean Fennessey:Which is something I'm not totally sure I realized couldn't happen before, but that is true now. Now, does that nomination then only take one slot? No, it takes two slots. Oh, okay. I mean, it's like a Soderbergh directing thing. I see. it used to be allowed or it has been allowed in directing but I guess was not allowed in acting was he nominated twice for Brockovich and Traffic yeah okay interesting I'll bid 10 bucks for this movie I don't know a lot about this movie I know Lance a little bit he's doing another voice he's doing he's doing Chris Hansen presumably one of my favorite docs from last year was his movie Predators which was a kind of an investigation of what to catch a predator was and it'll be interesting to see how this movie stacks up to it.

55:3425.

55:35Sean Fennessey:Oh. I'll say 35. Are you looking forward to this? Have you ever watched To Catch a Predator? I'm sure that I did at some point at an inappropriate age as a child when like the news news magazines were big in our house. Yeah. They were always on freaking me out. But I I have not seen the documentary. I'm just I'm an RPATS fan forever and ever. Phoebe Bridgers is acting in this film. Is that a fact? according to the Wikipedia page. Damn, Phoebe.

56:08Merritt Weaver's in this. Yeah. Skylar Gazzando is in this. That's true.

56:11Sean Fennessey:Big fan. Jimmy Olsen. Just says that, yeah, Phoebe Bridgers. Okay. I mean. You know what I mean? I have for$35. $50.

56:24Sperm World. Sperm World, also an incredible movie. What's Sperm World? It's Lance. One of Lance's documentaries.

56:31Sean Fennessey:All of Lance Oppenheim's documentaries are worth your time. I thought you were still talking about testicle plastic surgery. Left it vague on purpose. 65. There's part of me that thinks this is going to be a Telluride and there's part of me that thinks this is going into that Marty. We're not even announcing it for New York Film Festival. Surprise mirror. Yeah. A24 now has that spot, you think? I think so. What else do they have coming out in the fall that could be dividing their attention, right? Not much. No, they're Oscar jams. I don't believe so. Just taking all that, getting ready for Elden Ring.

57:12You know when Elden Ring is dated for? Better be November 17th, 2027. March 3rd, 2028. Imagine if I turned 50 and fucking Elden Ring dropped. We just saw it 300 ,000 times.

57:25Sean Fennessey:I'll do 75. Have you played Elden Ring? No. I have watched dudes play it. Say more. Go ahead. On video, on Instagram. Okay. So it's being served to you as a live stream, like an edited down live stream. It's funny people playing Elden Ring and being like, holy shit. Damn, son. I misspoke about A24. for you got two movies that they may be spending some time on. One is Club Kid which they picked up. I Can't which is also not eligible to us right now. Yeah. And also the debut Jesse Eisenberg's musical. No backstreet drive. I'm just trying. I'm sorry that I'm trying to fucking help you. I wonder if Chris will like Club Kid.

58:07What happened here? I like Club Kid. I am a Club Kid. Are you? In a way. Yeah. I've been in the clubs. In these clubs in this film. Was he at Limelight and shit? Nope. No. It's before. It's it starts when you left New York well so you're not I laid the groundwork for you

58:24Sean Fennessey:it's like queer dance clubs in circa 2013 I think Sean is yeah I got it I got it for 75 congratulations okay great I'm delighted to have this I don't know if this is touching 85 but I do think it's it's gonna be it's a movie I'm excited about how come how come the nickname Amanda Lorian hasn't really stuck because you're not how come I haven't taught your son that yet it's a great question he does know my name is Amanda I know I would say Well, no, your name is Amanda. Amanda. Oh, Amanda. That's, yeah. I mean, you can do it. You can try. I think anytime you ever speak on Star Wars going forward, the bottom cryon should just be like a Mandalorian corner.

59:05Okay. What happened with that movie sucking? Did we get to the bottom of that? That's another one that you haven't seen, right? Happily. Really? And you said you would not see it. I stuck to my guns. We never talked about the polite text that you sent me, like the Friday. of Memorial Day weekend being like, hey, we changed our travel plans, so I'm sorry I'm not going to be able to come see Mandalorian and Grogu with your son. And you knew that I was traveling and this wasn't going to be pissed at you. But, you know, you left us hanging there. I'm sorry. You know, I'm not a parent. I don't know what these things mean.

59:44Sean Fennessey:I had a conversation with Alice yesterday at dinner. We watched Ghostbusters over the weekend. The way you're talking, it's almost like the way you talk about when you have like a cool drink with a guy in the industry I was talking with Alice about where Star Wars goes from here she said something really interesting to me that is something I felt when we watched that movie The Mandalorian Grogu because we watched Ghostbusters and she was like that wasn't scary at all that was so fun and she was you know there's some scary stuff in Ghostbusters it's mostly comic but I don't know the dogs the librarian the librarian in the beginning is very scary she loves Stay Puft Marshmallow Man did she like Slimer?

1:00:22Sean Fennessey:yeah of course when Slimer happened she said that ghost is my favorite same which is you know we all agree about Slimer he's a wonderful guy man or woman? Slimer? do we know? I think non-binary non-binary primarily interested in food right that's right not a sexual being really at all yeah I mean you don't know like ectoplasmic don't exclude Slimer you know from the sexual narrative yeah exactly why are you being so sex negative about Slimer What would he do if he were dropped into the film The Invite? What role would he, how would he do with the menu? He would slime. He would slime. So we're talking about the movie.

1:00:57Sean Fennessey:She loved it. She wants to watch Ghostbusters 2. She wants to watch more spooky movies. She knows dad likes spooky movies. So we're talking about that. And Eileen is asking her like, has a movie ever scared you? Was there ever a time when you were upset watching a movie? Because she's really been begging for Jaws. And we're trying to figure out what is the limit of something. And she was like, Mandalorian Grogu. That was the time when I was most scared because there was the most violent stuff happening, the most fighting. And that was the thing. And I felt that watching the movie. I was like, this movie is really chaotic and intense and not kid-friendly, even though it's marketed directly at kids.

1:01:35Sean Fennessey:And we talked about it a little bit on our episode. I was very nervous when we saw the early footage because I was like, my four-year-old knows about this movie and this seems like really, you know, just way too many blasters and or guns and, you know, yucky. And he was just so, you know, smooth brained about the experience that it turned out to be OK. I don't think he remembers anything of it, which is depressing in its own way. But yeah, I found it pretty gnarly. I did ask him what his favorite Star Wars film was and he said Mandalorian. Oh, OK. When I had him rank them recently. What was number two?

1:02:10I think it was like one of the sequels. I mean, he likes Phantom Menace because he likes... I think I was a fan of Menace. I think also I did this with Alice. The race. She also had like... She was like Rise of Skywalker. He's elite because she loves Rey. Yeah. Yeah. They can't be trusted. Did you select a film yet? Not to cut off our wonderful conversation. Oh, no, no, no. So I'm going to do Wild Horse 9, 20 bucks. This is the new Martin McDonough starring John Malkovich, Sam Rockwell. Now's your time, Chris Ryan. 50 bucks. Yeah. I'm eyeballing Buscemi's supporting actor in this. Intriguing. Been a while.

1:02:44We want that for him. We do. We have not had him on our screens consistently for a long time.

1:02:50Sean Fennessey:Love it. We just sang his praises on the domestic disturbance. We sure did. He's the movie. Re-watchables episode. He's the best part of the movie. Where would we be without Ray? So this is basically in Beruche set on Easter Island with Sam Rockwell and John Malkovich as hitmen looking to upend government seemingly. I'll do 60. And Steve Buscemi is their handler. and this looks really fucking funny and a return to old school McDonough. I'll do 75. I feel like Banshees is way underrated. It is. And if it was not late stage COVID, it would have a different reputation. What was the release for that?

1:03:26Was that on screen?

1:03:26Sean Fennessey:It was on HBO Max after like three weeks. Yeah, that's right. Because it was 2022, right? This is a real inside baseball, but I think I've said this to you guys in the past. I remember the performance of that episode being really big. And I was like, that's weird. this is a small two-hander set on Ireland, but it was because everybody watched it at home at the same time. And that was such a unique thing that was happening in the movie culture. Excuse me, that is some Carrie Condon erasure. God bless her. And Barry Keoghan, of course. There goes that dream. What's wrong with the dream? No, that's what he says in the film.

1:03:53Sean Fennessey:Oh, I thought you were like, the dream of Barry Keoghan. No, that's my favorite moment. He's still writing it. He's opening his wrist to her and he's saying, you know, could we ever... I don't quite understand what's going on. I know he's playing Ringo and he seems like a lovely guy. I don't know what happened. where he played Tommy Shelby's son 90 bucks in a movie and now is not doing it going forward who? Barry Keoghan played Tommy Shelby and Peaky Blunders his son in the movie we saw that Sean and I both saw it but now there's another show that's gonna I think Jamie Bell is taking over the part oh oh it's just like a recasting like Emily Mortimer in Paddington 3 in Batman 2 I don't think he is well that's just that's tough could have been Tommy Shelby and Joker and you're not I'll be honest I didn't really appreciate what he was doing in Crime 101 either.

1:04:39Sean Fennessey:Oh, I did. Yeah. Well, he didn't have much to do. I thought he was. I thought he was doing way too much. Operating on a different wavelength from everybody. And he needed to settle down a little bit. Are you going to let him have this? No. $110. Okay. He distracted me. McDonough? I love him. I love his work. I have such an uncomplicated relationship with his work. I think he is truly one of the great writers. Billboard's time to revisit? I'm a big fan. I really think it's good and I think it's I think what it's accused of is a misunderstanding of the movie and I know a lot of people disagree the Frances McDormand performance is great I would encourage people to revisit the movie yeah it's really funny it fell a little bit victim to the moment I also really like Seven Psychopaths I do too so I've heard that this movie is more like Seven Psychopaths than it is like Banshees that it is a little bit more of a hyper violent absurdist comedy than it is a sort of mournful treatise on relationships and friendship.

1:05:39They're moving the cursor around the clock in a way that suggests to me that they want you to know. You guys have microphones. Yeah. You want me to speak up? I have this film. So here's a great procedural question. Who's manning the dock and who's manning the clock? The tag team effort back here. I'm on the clock. Lucas is on the dock. That's beautiful.

1:06:00Sean Fennessey:Clock dockers. That sounds like a Martin McDonough film. Are we Koreans returned? so now are we doing the turn do I have another one no I guess we could yeah I thought we reset do we not reset I honestly don't remember I think we reset back to the beginning don't we I don't remember that but I also don't care you say bidders open with a new title in snake fashion there you go stand corrected go for it okay great stand corrected it's international women's day so we each have a title right now that was in March and you guys said nothing what do you want me to say on that day yeah I want you to be creative I want you to figure I know I just I want nothing to do with it I want you to say I went to the AI conference instead of you which is a real thing that happened do you did not get the oh so only the women got the AI women's month invites at Spotify that was real we like to celebrate women's history month which is email you got which is yes I'm not kidding in March it's March right we got like we got invited to several like women in AI conferences but the men don't get invited to that wow why would I be I'd like to meet some women in AI Trying to get like Paul Schrader When you say that You mean AI women?

1:07:11Yeah like I'd like to get 90s Sharon Stone to talk to me About like the Sixers

1:07:18Sean Fennessey:I'm still Not understanding. You're saying You want a woman who's composed of AI Yeah like an AI named Sharon Who's like chatting with me And she's just like what do you think we should do with Embiid I gotta tell you this could be done quite easily I know. So what are you waiting for? You should be charting this. Yeah, I was going to say, why are you giving that away for free? I think I have a big future in AI. Okay. How so? I just think I have a lot of ideas for it. Okay. What are your thoughts? You declined this conference. I declined. There were multiple conferences, just so you know, because it's a whole month.

1:07:50So they were offering us lots of opportunities.

1:07:53Sean Fennessey:Is there a male voice that you would want in your life that could be generated by AI? No, I would just, I would want it to silence the other man. You know what I mean? It's just a little bit like I hear enough. Right. You want Skynet for male voices. Just thank you. You wouldn't want Jacob Elordi to like call you in the morning and be like, I had Gelson's deliver your groceries.

1:08:21No, I think that I would feel uncomfortable. How's Zach doing?

1:08:28yeah he's only got one arm I've got two you know if you ever want to talk about it just let me know

1:08:38Sean Fennessey:why does he talk like Paul Hogan he's Australian right that's not an AI this is an AI he's not interested in AI he'd rather be at the beach getting sunburned reading a novel Jacob but wait until somebody backs up the Brinks truck to his house and they're like, please be our AI voice consultant. Here's$85 million. Because that keeps happening. People are just like, absolutely, I'll take it. It really is true. Sure, yeah. I've been asking Amanda off mic. Yes, how much money? What it would cost to sell her soul to AI. At this point, I think it's bad brand management. I think that you, because at this point, if you're taking the money, then you're stuck to it.

1:09:22And obviously, Stuck to AI or stuck to that price point? No, you're stuck to AI. Good question. And to like a specific generation of AI.

1:09:29Sean Fennessey:This is a man who's five million dollars in the whole thing. That's turning. And obviously, I think the technology of like computers helping us and like computers doing math for us and whatever else they're doing with it is going to continue. But I do sort of feel I do feel that big AI is in a like kind of a bubble phase right now and they aren't figuring everything out. and if you're stuck and some if like if it's pets.com but it didn't really matter to like Matt Damon with crypto.com right didn't stick to him that's true it didn't stick to him but it did where's your girl Brie Larson no no no what's the that's who you think of when someone says your girl who was the meme that he was gonna propose to no I thought she did a crypto we just got a real insight into your mind hop to a girl hop to a girl hop to a girl Haley Welch that's a lot just happened hold on slow down slow down there's not even a film on the board right now you want me to put one on I will do the film that I'm mad the only one thing that's making me mad about my vacation dates End of Oak Street 15 bucks that's the only reason you're mad about your vacation I'm not mad about my vacation dates I'm gonna have a fucking amazing time thanks for filling in but that is one that was dated after I thought those two weeks in August were clear and...

1:10:51Sean Fennessey:That's the CR special. I would enjoy it. So yeah. So 15 bucks, end of Oak Street. Okay. You suggested your girl to Chris Ryan. He said Brie Larson. Now, I don't know why. He didn't say Phoebe Riley. He didn't say... 25 bucks. 25 bucks. Is that even an actress you care about? No, I thought she... Because she's had like an interesting... 35 bucks. She's dipped her toe into a lot of pools over the last 10 years or so. 40? You mean literally? No, she's like a YouTube content creator. She did like mental health awareness. But then she stepped back, remember? $50. I'm really excited about this movie.

1:11:26$55. But she like, she made an announcement that she was no longer, she was taking a break from Instagram and from creating. I know because Sean sent it to me. So maybe you're the one who's interested in Brie Larson.

1:11:37Sean Fennessey:Just following the industry. If you told me, if you told me that Brie Larson was playing Hawk Tua in The Life Of, like I would believe it. Oh. You know? you could see it someone says your girl you think Brie Larson we all think Hawk Tua what do you think that tells you about you? that obviously I see myself differently than the way everybody else sees me who would your girl be? it's your girl 65 I think I would be associated probably most specifically with either Chastain or Anne Hathaway yeah those are the two gals who I pretty consistently I'm like I like what they're up to I like what they're doing right?

1:12:17Sean Fennessey:is that fair to say? mhm Yeah, that's what I would go with. Probably some others on the board. You know, they're really more my age. Unlike Haktoa, you know, she's 27. But Brie Larson is in the general. 75. Okay. You're squinting in a way that makes me nervous about your eyesight as well. Oh, I can't see anything. I just actually don't know what movie we're bidding on. I'm just trying to keep it going. This is a dinosaur movie? End of Oak Street. Yes. This is David Robert Mitchell's. Speaking of starring his girl Anne Hathaway. I think this looks wonderful. And your guy. Long delay is a little bit troubling.

1:12:47although maybe they were trying to get the VFX dialed. I don't know what of our triggers it works for for me. It's hard for me to imagine making$100 million, but I've been wrong before.

1:12:58Sean Fennessey:I agree. It's a little bit of a risky venture,$85. I just love the idea of this movie existing. The episode that I want to do around this movie is Twilight Zone movies. I love Twilight Zone premises in movies where super high concept, extravagant, more than likely metaphorical, allegorical ideas. is maybe this isn't an allegory movie but I suspect it is because it's from David Robert Mitchell who made It Follows who made Under the Silver Lake he works with big names 95 Ewan McGregor would you say you like him as a leading man now?

1:13:35I'm putting him on the spot What do you think Amanda? I'm trying to think of what he's done He did a season of sleep he was the lead He did a season of Fargo where he played twins He was good in that he's really good in Trainspotting 2 I did not care for Obi-Wan Kenobi neither did I

1:13:52Sean Fennessey:I'll say$105 I'm stoked for this movie I hope it's good $120 I need a movie gotta get some movies this also raises a point I made on the Blank Check Jurassic Park episode which is if you go back and you look at the history of movies especially movies since Jurassic Park there are very few dinosaur movies. I'm very curious to see if the dinosaurs in this film are drastically different than the Jurassic World Rebirth movie. Like, where are we at? How shared is that dinosaur tech? I was watching... Alice asked to watch the Jurassic Park trailer. And we watched it. And I was just marveling just watching the trailer.

1:14:34Sean Fennessey:So magical. This is 32 years... 33 years ago. Yeah. 130. And it's still... That combination of CGI and the practical, you know, the models that they built is so good. But they've not really iterated on it that much in our dinosaur movies, right? Can you name 10 dinosaur movies off the top of your head made since 1990? No. That's because you guys don't remember any of the Jurassic movies besides Jurassic Park. Set those aside. Name five. Set aside to the Jurassic movies. Ask me a single question about Jurassic. Anything about Jurassic World or Jurassic Park. Okay, what is the current geopolitical status of the dinosaurs in this franchise?

1:15:20Where are they living? What are they doing? They're stateless creatures. Are they not?

1:15:24Sean Fennessey:I think that's right. They're without nation. Yeah. Without ambassadorship. Okay. Did Marthyrshaline make it through that movie? I mean, no political asylum. I know. These dinosaurs. Who's looking after them? No one. I'll tell you why. 65. No, that's not true. Jonathan Bailey. I was actually never going to have something really serious. Jonathan Bailey. Oh, okay. I can't do it here. No, there's actually meaningful consequences in the world, and I'm not going to make a joke about it. Jonathan Bailey, he... Cares about the dinosaurs. He died, right? No. No. He was spontaneously combusted at the end of the movie.

1:15:56No one dies in the Jurassic World.

1:15:58Sean Fennessey:That's part of the problem with the movie. You guys love that movie. Doesn't Marcella do battle with a dinosaur? Yeah, they all because land, air, and sea, you know? Yeah, he survives. He survives at the end. real like should have killed Chewie vibes in that movie. Like we got to bring them all back for the sequel. Well. Will the sequel of that movie happen? We're at 30 seconds. Yeah, it will. With ScarJo and Mahershala and Jonathan Bailey. I don't think ScarJo's doing 45 other franchises. She's fucking cooking. Yeah. What's next on the docket for her? Well, it's Ari Aster, Batman, and Exorcist.

1:16:28Sean Fennessey:Oh man, that's fucking awesome. I'm sorry to say she's the chosen one. Why are you sorry to her about it? Because she's mixed on ScarJo. I admire her and I like some of her films. And sometimes I'm like, is this acting? It would be great if she was still. It's just one woman's opinion. If it was all print and Amanda just had her. That's what they said about Elizabeth Taylor. That's true. Her author photo was just like. And it was like skeptical with a C about ScarJo. And it's just like one lady's opinion. It's just like, are we sure she's good? Can you let me have this one? Yeah. Yeah? No. 200.

1:17:03Sean Fennessey:Oh, shoot. What was that? I think she's good. I think sometimes she's not used the way I, you know, would. Ari Aster, Batman, Paper Tiger. Paper Tiger. And Exorcist. And that's the balance. That's the balance we're looking for. It is still from Exorcist today. James Gray, Ari Aster, superhero movie. And what's the other one that I'm forgetting? Exorcist. I hope that Exorcist movie is good. What's the superhero movie? She plays Gilda Dent. Well, we don't know. Who is Gilda Dent? Harvey Dent's wife. Oh, brother. Well, what are her powers? where she's just the wife of the DNA. She's the wife again?

1:17:38But I think she does. We got to stop making ScarJo the wife. She does some bad stuff or some mixed stuff.

1:17:45Sean Fennessey:The thing you don't know is that this movie is not called The Batman 2. It's called Gilded Den. And it's a character piece about what happens when your husband's face gets burned off. but starring ScarJo that I would be into. Is she not named after the titular Gilda from the film Gilda? The titular Gilda? I don't know. Okay. I don't know. 235. I want to clarify something quickly Chris you said you need to get some movies on the board I know I have one I just want to make sure We all have one movie You don't have to get greedy This doesn't do anything for my triggers I can tell It's not fun to see him ran in like this You know It's like being at the zoo We gotta start getting that lighthouse up for Pre-Larsen again How do we get back to that I guess this game is turning out the way you intended because you gave me rules that I'm following.

1:18:36Sean Fennessey:Well, I liked how you played last time. Now, you probably should have spent some more money, but your selections were interesting. Amanda and I, we were like Dune, Odyssey, we were going big, and you were being more measured. I was the film knower. No, that wasn't what I said. You were the game knower. Yeah. You were the game knower. Legally, we can't say drinking Storm makes you smarter and more focused. But with zero sugar, 200 milligrams of caffeine, and immunity support, you're smarter and more focused for drinking storm storm, good energy in good energy out energy for life. So good. So good.

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1:20:09Sean Fennessey:Okay. It is your turn to put a movie up, right? Because Amanda just put up the end of it. It's Sean. Yeah. It's your turn again. My brain is fried guys. You have$690 remaining. How will you spend them? These are two of my most anticipated movies. So I'm really happy with what I've gotten so far, even though I don't know if they do really anything for me. Wild Horse 9 off the board what's another movie that we're really anticipating that you haven't seen there's one fun one that you could do Hunger Games Sunrise Unreview I'm fucking pumped for that okay who's that I got one who's in Jesse Plemons and Kieran Culkin I mean I do like Jesse Plemons I think that trailer's excellent yeah Francis Lawrence that first film in this reboot or the sequels interminable Rachel Zegler like hey yeah no that was the longest film the ballad of songs and snakes I watched that in a hotel room with my wife and we both felt like we were going back in time like we were like this is the fucking crazy longest movie we've ever seen I like Rachel Zegler a lot I don't know why she was asked to perform Lumineers songs for three hours completely agree I also despite the title being the ballad of songbirds and snakes was not prepared for the level of performance and singing not a songbirding yeah this one does look cool yeah That's not what I'm putting up I'm putting up Do it What was I going to put up?

1:21:35Sean Fennessey:Whale fall Good See that's when $10 Yeah there we go $15 Let's go Exactly what she meant You know about whale fall? You're out on this? $85 You fucking Do you know about whale fall? Listen I invented whale fall It's in the sea with Austin Abrams They don't make whale fall without my fucking say so. I greenlit that movie. I greenlit it. I was watching Paper Towns. I was watching Austin Abrams on Euphoria. Yeah. So I'm taking this one. This is your boy's movie. This film was based on a novel written by Daniel Krauss who invented this story. They're all the same novel. It had nothing to do with greenlighting the movie.

1:22:17It's all Melville. Let's go. Okay.

1:22:18Sean Fennessey:Oh, interesting. Yeah. He gets eaten in Melville? Moby Dick? I read Moby Dick. Did you? Yeah. To completion? Yeah. Okay, let's relax. You and Brie Larson? I'll say$100. I, first of all, just. $110. Just this whole show putting its arms around whale fall. We can't do better. Yeah. We can't do better. I mean, it's entirely,$150. It's entirely possible that this movie is honestly unintelligible. That it is so dark that the whale's stomach is not supporting. I think that you. What are you going to do if when he goes into the whale's stomach, Yeah. It's all flashbacks of his trauma. I'll be really upset.

1:22:58I will feel betrayed. 175. Because I do feel like I've put in a lot of work. There's actually... So in my... I have a very clear mental image. And I'm like, I'm already priced out of this. So... But I'm really excited for this movie. I have a really clear mental image in my mind of what it looks like inside the whale. Because you guys saw a little bit of footage. No, we didn't see. We have not seen this. You're allowed to draft it. Nobody's... Yeah, it was not five years ago. No, but it's not based on... I'm trying to figure out what children's book or what illustration of the book of Jonah or wherever the Jonas were is.

1:23:35Well, I know, but it's a very, very specific image where it's a large... It's brown inside the whale. And there's...

1:23:45Sean Fennessey:You're sure you're not thinking of Pinocchio? A small window. No, and then there's a little stool. And then Jonah's in there. That is in this movie? No, that's what I'm my head. Okay. You know, if I were storyboarding it, it's just like a, you know, a play set. And it's like a little stool and it's all brown. And then he's just hanging around. But I don't actually know what happens inside the whale. Many compartments in a whale's stomach. September or October 9th? I think it's October. Yeah. What are we going to do when we're here with tears in our eyes talking about how whale fall is propelling Hollywood to new heights?

1:24:20We're going to be like, we told you so. We told people there's a movie where a guy gets swallowed by a whale and the people said yes.

1:24:25Sean Fennessey:And the people said, I know you don't want to relive this too much, but the image of Larry David. We're at 30 seconds to 35. The image of Larry David in game four of the NBA finals when Josh misses the layup. I'm done reliving this. I'm not. Well, no, it's a negative moment. It's a negative moment. Josh Hart misses the layup on the breakaway in the fourth quarter. And there's a wide shot of Larry David in the front row and he starts to fall down. and he's looking for someone to brace him while he's falling. That was me when the whale fall footage hit at CinemaCon. I was just like, I didn't know how much I needed this.

1:25:00And it was during an otherwise fairly grim Disney presentation. Yes. And it was before they brought RDJ who made Whale Fall is now writing the Alien sequel. Very encouraging. Ridley meddling, that's what they say. Ridley's meddling with the script. Ridley's meddling with the franchise is the word on the street. Is that Fetty Alvarez? Fetty Alvarez on Romulus as well. And then, so Fetty left and then it was going to be the evil dead burn guy was going to make it. We're at 30 seconds again. 260. Yeah, there we go. Sebastian Banachek? I give you power of attorney. If I get too deep in him Okay, thank you so much.

1:25:38We're back. Sebastian Banachek, yeah. He was going to make it and then that fell apart and the word on the street. What did you say? What? I gave her power of attorney to bid for me while I talked to you about the future of Alien. And now, women, go over here. No, that's not what I meant. 265. I'm maxed out. I don't have them clawed with me. I can't talk to you about Alien and bid on this fucking movie.

1:26:01Sean Fennessey:You mean you don't have Brie with you? Sharon. I want Sharon Stone. Oh, Sharon. Excuse me. 275. Do you like Sharon Stone's voice? Yeah. Yeah. What's wrong with it? Why do you have against women's voices? Nothing. I'm surrounded by them at all times. What, 280, what is the voice you want to hear? 285. Emma Thompson? I mean, that is a nice voice, but I don't really, I don't want to hear, I want silence, is what I want in life. You do? Yeah, we had a, as I said, it was an up and down weekend. It was a life lived at the extremes this weekend for me and also for my husband. and so we were at dinner with the kids on mountain climbing.

1:26:51We were just trying to live life.

1:26:55Sean Fennessey:290. Just keep your eye on it. Okay. And so my four-year-old asked for some music at the dinner table on Saturday night. And Zach was just like, you know what, Knox? I need silence right now. I just, I need a minute. Did you say that? He actually did. And so we didn't play music. I don't know if I'd have the heart to do it. So that's where we are right now. And then 30 minutes later, I discovered Wife Repeller. So now there's no more silence in our house. Just MJ Lenderman up and down. I love MJ Lenderman. No one knows what Wife Repeller is. That story was told off mic. Sure. She posted about it.

1:27:28Yeah, I posted about it. The people know. I guess it was on Saturday night. Maybe you were not looking at Instagram, spending time with your family. Congratulations. Probably was.

1:27:37Sean Fennessey:We're at 30 seconds. Yeah. Common victory for me. You may take it. Oh, that's beautiful. Don't really know if this hits, we're fucking not ready. It's going to, $100 million will be like light work. And if it doesn't, it's just going to make like$5 million. I think it's going to be hard for it to get to$100 million. And Josh DiMaro is going to be like, who the fuck greenlit this movie? You know? And why didn't you use AI to make it? Well, what's it going up against? That's a very busy time at the box office. Our October is really emotionally involved. It really is. So it's actually October 16th is Whalefall.

1:28:11Sean Fennessey:Yeah. That it will be coming off of the social reckoning Other Mommy October 9th, which is a very chaotic weekend for us. Read the whole, read, start October 2nd. Digger and Verity come out on October 2nd. That's a lot. Colleen Hoover and Tom Cruise. Other Mommy feature farting. Did I read that correctly? That the demon in Other Mommy is flatulent? Where did you read this? Where are you? I don't know. This is late at night. And Brie Larson spending your time. Where do we find this? Other Mommy. Ask Sharon. Okay, since you're not going to read it. Then October 9th, Social Reckoning. Then the next episode is Fjord.

1:28:50Then Whale Fall and Sense and Sensibility. Other mommy flatulence. It's very... Don't forget about Street Fighter. Well, I was more talking about myself. And obviously I will see Street Fighter. And that was the best of the video game presentations that we saw at CinemaCon.

1:29:04Sean Fennessey:I was thinking about maybe trying to grab it here. But that... I just... I don't really know what I'm going to do with myself. In October, I'm going to stay strong. I'm going to, you know, keep seeing the sun, keep doing my exercises, mindfulness, try to keep my eye on the ball. Mindfulness is something you practice? I would find that hard to believe. I learned a little bit about mindfulness. I learned a lot about it. And then I was like, that seems unnecessary. I'm just going to put everything in a box over here. You know, mindfulness is about silence. Yeah. Which is obviously not a cheap one.

1:29:39Sean Fennessey:Is it my turn? I won Whale Ball and I have whatchamacallit. And now we're starting to get into the like, well, I hate to do it to you guys, but... You gotta grab one of the prestige films. I'm gonna go for Paper Tiger. It represents me personally as an East Coast guy who loves crime film and loves James Gray and loves Miles Teller and loves Adam Driver. Loves Scarlett Johansson. And I'll bid$5 for that out of respect to Paper Tiger. but why not just bid 100 well why not bid one you guys can't bid on it right that's true well five dollars is actually more insulting than one dollar one dollar somebody looks at the board and they're like oh he ran out of money but there was one movie left on the board five dollars is like no one else bid on it I don't know I would encourage people I would say bid 500 no I'm gonna bid five dollars and we can talk about Paper Tiger though yeah well it's just a terrific movie we loved it we were there at the premiere Scarlett Johansson was not but they FaceTimed her during the applause she didn't pick up yeah but I mean listen time zones are very complicated here's what I'll say one of the very best Adam Driver performances of all time and also the most Miles Teller has tried hard to be good in a film in about a decade like since when when's the last time you think he did that uh Spectacular Now I mean that's my favorite Miles Teller performance Whiplash Whiplash and Spectacular Now that's an amazing that was when I was like oh is this guy like John Voight or something and it was not that ultimately John Voight just like a really sensitive but masculine presence on screen you know not John Voight now not John Voight advising President Trump on how to save cinema is this guy trying to reshore Hollywood production no John Voight from Midnight Cowboy and uh that's Carjo's accent are you allowed to say that without breaking it no it don't it's perfectly accurate it is exactly what people from there sound like sure it sounds like my grandmother do you think I would like to have it voice my AI agent companion.

1:31:38Sean Fennessey:I don't think you'd enjoy that. Yeah. My AI companion. As someone who was raised with those voices very closely. You don't know what I get excited by. You told us Brie Larson. No, I didn't mean that. I just didn't know what she was talking about. Yeah, five bucks. I love James Gray. It's going to likely hit 85. I mean, it's currently at 85, right? Who knows? Who knows? It was very well reviewed by the French. the European critics loved it the US critics thought it was his best in some time I would say the US pundits that we knew that we talked to at the festival but it did not win any prizes at camp right so I don't know what that means then the French newspapers were very upset about they were Le Monde said a masterpiece what did Le Keep say didn't catch up with that one I also don't read French Le Keep is the sports magazine yeah we know they said goal what is the french word for goal goal is it i think so goal is pretty universal really i mean there might be a french word for goal but i think when they score they're like goal okay well congrats on paper tiger damn son you scored a goal so i i get paper tiger yeah sometimes i can never tell like is this podcast supposed to go on for like six hours or we yeah as you told me many moons ago it's all one podcast um so now i have wild horse nine and I have paper tiger and I have willful.

1:33:07Yeah. That's good. That's your ideal episode length. For this as a, as a host or as listening to a podcast. let's do both. Good question. I do find that something magical happens at the two hour mark, you know, so either a focused, you know, one to one 15, maybe like a focus one plus then you have a good interview. Yep. and or two hours and things can get like really frisky. I will say -

1:33:38Sean Fennessey:This is how we've been able to do it together for so long. Yeah. I agree with you. But every once in a while, there are exceptions where it's, where if you and I just like have an hour and a half, but like no real structure or nothing that we have to get done, then we can get to the two hour energy at about an hour. And that's also beautiful. But that's where I'm trying to go. I wonder if that's going to get easier or harder as I get older. You mean the loopiness or the... Just conjuring that energy. Because, you know, you used to say, like five years ago, you'd be like, you guys like to go long.

1:34:11You like to be a more efficient podcast. I'm more used to different rhythms. I mean, I'm more of a 55-minute to one hour and five-minute guy. And then what happens at one hour and five minutes? Well, usually I have to come to another podcast. A lot of it's scheduling. Excuse us. I like to be supportive of your project. Where are you going after this? What show do you have to go do? Rogan? No, I have to prepare for The Beautiful Pod. Oh. Yeah. There are many matches today. There are three. Four, maybe. Four. I have to nominate another film. Please do. I don't like doing this, but I do need to shore up my Oscar campaign.

1:34:48Okay. And so I will be nominating Fjord. Oh, wow. Sheesh. Okay. There's two in a row that are ineligible for Amanda and I. I'm sorry. That's okay. But I wasn't really sure if I had great confidence. This Oscars has yet to coalesce for me to the extent that I pay attention to it. I would say to... How much are you paying? A dollar to mirror Sean's...

1:35:10Sean Fennessey:Shots fired at Christian Mongeau. No. The great Romanian filmmaker. This movie... I'm really curious to see what happens with this because I think it's going to hit here and people are going to be like, masterpiece. I could be wrong it was mixed I can't it did win the palm and the jury loved it but it was very mixed it was and there was there were pushes towards other films Minotaur La Bola Negra that people preferred to this movie because it is in keeping with the kind of movie that he makes but I loved it and you liked it you liked it a lot I really liked it I think they will get an Oscar nomination they absolutely will they'll get two I think at least for the performances and then best picture i think so this is a movie about um a uh couple a norwegian woman and a romanian man who were living in romania and uh moved to uh norway to get a better life for their families a christian family who encounter some unusual progressive structures in place in norway around their family and it becomes a real cultural clash literally a cultural clash and Sebastian Stan and Renata Reinsva are both amazing in the movie.

1:36:29Sean Fennessey:It is, it's going to be a bit of a, a political time bomb though. It's going to reveal, I think a lot of about how people feel about this kind of thing when it is released. I guess I don't want to say more than that. I'm very curious for your take as a thoughtful consumer of political content and a maker, one of the makers of JMO. It's true. It's a true JMO movie. Yeah. Good. Good. I, I think in similar ways that we were talking about ScarJo doing, they write, I think, shout out to Sebastian Stan, who seems to have gotten the same memo and is like, I did all the Marvel movies. And those two people probably will be ahead of the curve as I wonder whether or not less and less Hollywood actors are interested in going through what Millie Alcock just went through.

1:37:18Yeah. and they're just like is it really worth it to if this doesn't go right I get blamed and if it goes well like I'm locked into this for nine years

1:37:28Sean Fennessey:elegant segue for my next nomination which is Spider-Man brand new day okay I'll put it on the board for five bucks I don't know if you guys care about this I don't know if it makes sense even in the auction in the aftermath of the Supergirl thing and the way that we talked about it and that I wrote about it and all that it doesn't change the fact that I still remain very interested in Spider-Man movies do you think this will make more money than Odyssey and Dune? In all likelihood, it should. I mean, based on what the subject matter is and how it's performed before. And Spider-Man is not really subject to the whims of Morbius and Supergirl.

1:38:01Sean Fennessey:Spider-Man has always been successful. Fifteen bucks. Wait, what's on the board? Spider-Man, brand new day? What do you need? What do you need? I'm sorry. I was focusing on what I need and kind of trying to plot my strategy. but you start talking about spider-man which i like i had a great time at the one where they pointed each other you know um no way home sure that was beautiful and new director okay destin daniel cretin coming in john watts out justin karitsky's writing doing a pass on the screenplay i tom holland claiming telling zach baron that he learned a lot from the odyssey and that's what he that energy he brought to Brand New Day yeah of course me too um I are you in the Odyssey wouldn't that be amazing if I showed up Ursula or Charybdis or is it that you constantly tell Zach Barron that you've learned a lot from the Odyssey yeah uh $15 $25 now five years ago if we were doing this exercise this movie would be yes fought for now we also do either of you need box office I do I could use some backup for disclosure day, but I was just doing this to keep talking.

1:39:16But this is a sequel, so he can't even have it. That's right. I shouldn't even be a lot to bid, so we should go back down to your

1:39:22Sean Fennessey:$15. Wow. We should go back down to my$5, because I put it up. Do I get this for, I mean, you have to ask yourself. Actually, you can't do it either, because you have two sequels. That's right. Well, that's a steal. Congratulations. Thank you very much. Congratulations, Sean. I'm going to see this film. It turns out that you're doing well at the game whose rules you wrote.

1:39:42I would love to play a game that you create or you create. I don't think you could play my games. Say more. Okay, so I could... Have you ever seen a Saw movie?

1:39:59So I do have some loopholes the way that Chris does because I famously left Cannes early and almost missed the Palm. Do you like one movie? I only have one film that I spent a lot of money on. and and there are some things waiting for me hopefully unless you want to get in the mix but that doesn't seem that fun to do right now so I'm going to have a little fun right now and then if I got a circle back or I got to start googling movies coming out in 2026 I will do that so okay there's a lot of preamble um what listen I told you I was focused that's why I wasn't listening to you talking about spider-man still ambling in sorry it's called vamping while I I decide what to do.

1:40:41Sean Fennessey:Still ambling. For$10, I'll do Here Comes the Flood. Hmm. Okay. What is the value of this film? Okay. Oh, great. Okay. Me liking it. Okay. And me having a great time. Me going to the cinema and saying, yes, they still make them. They're like, well, I will because it's rumored to be premiering in Venice. Okay. so I will be at the Palais the Palazzo in this case excuse me I gotta switch my internal settings from French to Italian yes very so easy for you that's a really relatable and I will be there and it will be in a large screen it's seats that are slightly too small for my liking 30 seconds the Europeans keep it compact but you don't have to that's fine this is a heist film directed by Fernando Morales written by Simon Kinberg Denzel Washington Robert Pattinson your girl Daisy Edgar Jones Is she playing an American in this film?

1:41:39Don't know. They didn't consult me on the accent work. I think she does a fine American accent. Okay. This is 50. Nobody wants it. Twister was fine. Ten bucks? Twisters. Yeah, Twisters was fine. Wonderful. There were multiple Twisters. That's fine. I want to keep talking about this movie though. Okay. I agree with you completely that this is just a gobsmacking decision just to hide this away on Netflix. I feel like this is like Denzel Washington, Robert Pattinson thriller.

1:42:04Sean Fennessey:I'm going to keep being a brat about this publicly so that they put it in theaters. I don't understand. Why make the fucking movie? There's no way this movie costs less than$100 million. There's a 0 % chance. It's a Denzel Washington movie. So they had to buy out his quote and his back end. So this movie is expensive. I mean, this is also, this is a movie that spans the generations at Netflix, presumably, right? And the executives. I believe so. I don't know. We aren't totally sure, but one could assume that it was greenlit and structured. In the Scott Stuber era. Yes, in a different era than the current we don't care about spending money on movies.

1:42:40All I know is

1:42:41Sean Fennessey:a bank situation. Yeah. Always, which is always promising. Listen, I mean, it's also, I'm just interested. I want to see it. And I said that I would try to spend some money for myself. Incidentally, the... Also, I had no movies and only$285. Is it Leech or Stahelski is doing How to Rob a Bank? Leech, David Leech. That could either be, that will either be among my favorite movies of the year or when I'm among my least favorite and there is no in between. Interesting. Because I care a lot about TikTok and I don't want them to, you know, bastardize it as a filmmaking. That's what you got your heart in?

1:43:17Okay. I just think it could be like really corny or really good.

1:43:20Sean Fennessey:Yeah, I agree with you. Here Comes the Flood is like a couple of other movies where there's no materials right now. We don't know when it's coming out. Maybe it's at Venice, maybe not. It feels like a very commercial place. So Venice seems like a weird place to put a movie like that. I mean I think it's just a genre movie it's a it's a probably an elevated Denzel Washington programmer right I mean with obviously the director of City of God and the two popes and Frenna Morella super accomplished but I don't know I'm very excited about it do you think it'll be better or worse than The Rip? I'm hoping better and that's said with love for The Rip which I enjoyed very much not as much as Quentin Tarantino yeah that's true but you know you loved the film I know loved it wrote about it in Sight and Sound magazine extensively beautiful uh okay so you've got here comes the flood oh and then I have another one you have another film to put up on the board Chris has got four movies I've got three you've got two other mommy ten bucks okay twenty bucks on IMDB it says that the other mommy is flatulent I mean what's more haunting than that I'm just saying it gives you an idea of the vibe of the film sure thirty bucks a Rob Savage movie mhm I'm a big fan Rob Savage.

1:44:33Sean Fennessey:I know you are. Jessica Chastain, a big fan. So Jessica Chastain ripping ass throughout the film? No, I think it's about a little girl who finds a demon in her closet that farts, and it's like she calls it Other Mommy. That's not at all what it's about. That's not at all what it's about. The demon takes the corporeal form of Jessica Chastain. So the demon looks just like Bella, an eight-year-old girl living in a home with marital problems confronts a flatulent entity that comes out of her closet that presence who she calls other mommy becomes increasingly threatening to her and her family. $45.

1:45:10$50 because it looks just like her real mommy. Jessica Chastain. Well, listen. We all have bodies.

1:45:18Sean Fennessey:Are you looking at fart.com? What are you reading? Look. Interesting data. That's not noted in the trailer. Yeah, there are no farts. You're done. You're walking away. I can go off the dome for this. Now that I fucking solve the internet. $55. Prove to you that the demon farts. Yeah. Did you not want to leave up the photos of Brie Larson you're looking at?

1:45:49It's not cool. I don't objectify her. What, you don't? She's Miss Marvel.

1:45:55Sean Fennessey:Captain Marvel. You fucking pig. You did? You did? She's a captain. That wasn't even an MS dot. That was a miss. Helen Gurley Brown's Ms. Marvel. She actually does not. I was about to spoil the bear. We're at 30 seconds. $65. Okay. $70. Spoil the bear. I was going to say something about the bear. You know what? I'm going to watch it. I was strongly encouraged by Brian Koppelman last week. He was like, you have to watch season four. He's in the bear. Well, we were talking about it because of that. Computer. Season five. Season five. Season six. I'm going to watch it. And I'm going to watch The Agency too.

1:46:32Dude, The Agency rocks. I'm quite excited. Yeah. I think you would actually... I have to watch... The thing that you would like... I have to watch literally 30 Diane Keaton films that she made after 2008. So that's going to be an interesting week for me.

1:46:44Sean Fennessey:Hall of Fame. It's going to be a tough one. Yeah. But I signed up as tribute for The Late Face. 75. The thing with Diane Keaton is... 80? The run of movies from 1970 through 1987. I don't know if there's ever been a stronger stretch it's honestly extraordinary especially 70 through 81 and then something happens in 2000 where I'm like what are these films have not heard of this what's the movie that changes it all that sends it in the wrong direction what's the turning point I'm not sure if there's like a break point I think she just you know older women obviously getting typecast not getting the opportunities that they want there's a lot of like what's the Lily Tomlin Jane Fonda show Grace and Frankie 90 there's a lot of things that just have like a Grace and Frankie vibe to them I see you know Mac and Rita what's that I don't know movie that came out in 2022 never heard of it until yesterday Mac and Rita what's the movie we're bidding on Other Mommy well I did my work on this one you don't want to get in on this I don't feel like reporters you have 574 dollars from their reporting and I reported on this film.

1:47:54Sean Fennessey:You read a log line on a publicly available website. CAI do that. That's exactly what it does. 95. Why not? How much money do I have left? I have 275. There's a lot of money on the board here. $100. I'll let you have it for$100. Okay, great. I need you to have some money left over so we can keep the game going here. Okay. Okay, so you put Other Mommy up. Yeah. That kicks it back to me. I put Here Comes the Flood and Other Mommy. Okay. Spider-Man brand new day off the board. Oh, now it's back. I mean, what's the most desirable movie that's left on the slate right here? Onslaught.

1:48:39You know what Onslaught is? No. Adam Wingard's return to James Cameron-esque filmmaking with Simon Barrett. He's left behind Godzilla and King Kong. and it's Adria Arjona playing like a super soldier killer. Right? That's exactly right.

1:48:57Sean Fennessey:I hope it's good. Okay. Is October coming out this year? Jeremy Saulnier's new film? I think we would have heard and I think it would be slated for October which would make it weird if it was just like out of nowhere there's a Jeremy Saulnier movie. There's some stuff but I don't know if there's anything that really connects with all three of us and those are usually the most interesting movies. Are you going to pick the Taika Waititi movie? Clara and the Sun. No, it looks absolutely horrible. There's a new Ishiguro book coming out next year. He fucking blacked out in the Financial Times. They asked him about his obsession with train movies.

1:49:33He seems like the most delightful guy ever.

1:49:38What's the new one called? I'm just going to say Miss Lambert Steps Aboard Danger. Look at this. Wow. an exquisite spy novel a disarming and memorable caper in which not everything is quite as it seems wow right in your sleep spot March 9th, 2027 why are you yelling? because I'm fucking psyched for the new Isha Girl novel like I'm a hype woman but only for literary fiction that meets my particularly interests this is tagged literary fiction and cozy mystery damn Penguin Random House get at me damn son when that mystery gets so cozy

1:50:26would you leave him would you leave Sean if it was like Amanda you've just done such amazing work for the modern publishing we just want to prop you up as a literary fiction influencer would you abandon Sean and you were just like send me a galley why would this necessity leaving me

1:50:45Sean Fennessey:you can have it all What I am doing every day is having it all. That's right. Many people are saying, I don't know how to have it all for this moment. So I'm going to put Clayface on the board. Okay. This is a personal project. You think that's beautiful? James Watkins. I don't have to worry about that anymore because I have Spider-Man. I'm just asking if you think it's going to make$100 million. I don't think Supergirl is going to make$100 million. I'm serious. It would be funny if Supergirl didn't make$100. It would be fucked up if all the guys were like, but yes, Clayface. You know what I mean?

1:51:19Well, yeah. I mean, do you think incels watch Clayface? I'm looking at the schedule. Where is it? What happened? Oh, it's not till the end of October. It got moved. I was confusing it with something else. Okay.

1:51:31Sean Fennessey:Yeah, it's October 23rd. Yeah. It is. I've got some ideas. Okay. For the Clayface episode. Clayface, James Watkins adapting the DC Comics story of a Batman villain, but taking a really hard horror strain on it. So we've been told. Yeah. We saw the trailer. Yeah. Very good trailer. Now, Christmas Day is the werewolf episode. And it's only me on the schedule right now. It's tough. That's the big release on Christmas Day right now. Yeah. Okay. Unless you want to wait to cover Ebenezer, the Christmas Carol story starring Johnny Depp. I remember when Johnny Depp came on stage at CinemaCon. That was so dark.

1:52:12Deranged. And people lost their minds. They loved it. Special bonus Christmas episode. The Rohirrim movie. The War of the Rohirrim. Watch along.

1:52:25Sean Fennessey:Oh, that would be fun. I couldn't get through that movie. The animated Lord of the Rings movie. I thought there was a new one that's not. Is it also animated? No, you're talking about The Hunt for Gollum. That's the fucking Hunt for Gollum. And is that coming out this year? I think it's 28. Oh, I'm sorry. Isn't The Hunt for Gollum 28? And who just signed up to do that? It's directed by Amy Serkis. Yeah, but somebody just signed on for it. I was like, Hunt of Gollum movie. I think it's Gollum. Gollum signed on. He's participating. Okay, hold on. It's been delayed until December 2027, according to...

1:52:53You're going to Reddit for your information? Well, listen. Do you have a bid, Sean? I can't watch you browse. I'll say... I'm nuts. I'll say five. What do you want from it? What am I doing? I don't even know what these search results are. How do you not have instantaneously... I have a Haunted Column movie because I don't let AI do the work for me. Claude, get the fuck out. You know? Gemini? No. Bad branding.

1:53:18Sean Fennessey:$5 for Clayface? $10. I don't really need it, but... Don't you want it? I do. You've got$575 for me. I'll bid$100 then for Clayface. $105. Amanda's not getting involved. I'm going to let you... I'm honestly reading an Esquire roundup of everything we know about the hunt for Gollum. What's the latest? Who's hunting him? December 17th, 2027. Okay, great. And what's happening here? No, what's the big idea? This is incredible blogging. It will sit between the Hobbit and the Fellowship of the Ring with its main story. The Ring? I don't know. I was reading ahead. Do you understand that there's a giant autoplay video playing?

1:54:04And she's got like, what? A fucking like. What the fuck do you want me to do differently? It's just get a fucking ad blocker. Which one? And I will do it for you. It's like watching my parents surf the web. It's crazy. I don't really use the internet that much on this computer.

1:54:22Sean Fennessey:I'm going to take this for 105. Yeah, do that. Yeah, do that. It unfolds after Bilbo's 111th birthday party. Bilbo Baggins. Yeah. And before, so happy birthday to him. And before. He's so mad because like a video about Robin Williams is playing. Before the fellowship reaches the minds of Moria. Yeah. Moria. Do you do protein milk? We've got an ad for protein milk here. Why aren't you able to pronounce any of the words in this story? Are you sure? Well, I don't know what Moria is. What if this whole, like, I'm a literary influencer thing is a mask. What is the Mines of Moria? That's where the dwarves live.

1:55:02I know what that is. I don't read this shit. But I would do a watch along with you.

1:55:07Sean Fennessey:And you say you're a classics major. Meanwhile, Tolkien stands astride history. I've told you many times, though, that my Greek professor did stop Greek one day and was like, let's learn Elvish instead. And started diagramming Elvish in the ways that it's based on Greek and Latin. I love it. She was really cool. Margaret. Shout out Margaret Graves. Okay. I don't remember anything about. You're looking around now. I'm making sure that was her name. We've got a fascinating moment here. I was right. I've got four movies. Chris has got four movies. Amanda's got three movies. She has the least amount of money left.

1:55:38Sean Fennessey:Chris and I, I have 580 and Chris has 574. Margaret Graver. Margaret Graves is an art historian. So you've got to put a movie on the board. And if you get it, it's your last movie. If you don't get it, then you could still have another chance to put another movie up. A lot of the movies that I wanted, I've either gotten or they've been taken. And I don't really want to do one where you guys can't bid or can't get involved. But I'm tempted. The last one I had on my long list is Hope. Okay. Na Hong Jin's new film. I don't know. Do you feel like that could be Best Foreign Film Oscar? No.

1:56:23Sean Fennessey:That's not a judgment on the film. but I do not think it will be in the running. And if it is then we are ushering in a wonderful new era. And things are changing at the Oscars in exciting ways. I can't nominate any sequels. I I I What am I going to do here? We had a lot of fun at the Hope premiere. Hope is Hope is a blast and I think Hope is going to be even better when they start tweaking it up a little bit before it's released. but it is a two hour and 40 bug hunt movie set in South Korea. That's true. Or maybe not in South Korea. Who knows where it's set? They didn't tell me. That also features Michael Fassbender and Alicia Vikander and Taylor Russell, sort of.

1:57:09Sean Fennessey:Sort of all three of them. What, I mean, what about Werewolf? Not a sequel. What about Werewolf? What about Werewolf? What do you know about Werewolves? Like, what is your personal relationship with that mythology? I think that the silver bullet technology is a bit much, that that's what it takes to kill them. I think that's a relatively recent, I think that's a cinematic invention. Oh. Not a myth? I don't think that's a literary idea. Well, that's a great idea, Amanda. Okay. Werewolf for$5. That was Sean's idea. Sean, thank you. Fucking right here. This guy's thinking about Brie Larson. $5 for werewolf.

1:57:51Sean Fennessey:$15. Okay. you know whatever why not why not like what you like just let me go on vacation $25 no I'm not going to do it instead I am what are you holding out for? don't you only have three movies? yeah but I have some other ideas here and I don't want you guys would then saddle me with werewolf and then I'm like great now I got this werewolf to be responsible for $40 how much? $40 werewolves aren't real and wolverines are Yes. Okay. Well, we don't know about werewolves. Do you feel like, like, tell me about your, how many wolverines have you seen live in your fucking life? in the badger and beaver family, right?

1:58:29Yeah, sort of. Slightly more feral, slightly more dangerous, but not really. It's like a land seal. Guess what I did last night. Tell me.

1:58:35Sean Fennessey:It's not like a land seal. I protected a cat from a coyote. What? Give me everything. Tell me the breakdown, the strategy. The coyotes in my neighborhood have gotten quite aggressive. $50. Yeah. $55. And they come out like at dusk and they're really in the mix. And there's a street near me that we affectionately refer to as Cat Street because there's a lot of cats. Okay. And there's a cat on that street. Sue and Bree, who's having this conversation? I call Scritches, but I don't know what its name is. And a coyote was like coming for it. And I said, stop. So you shall not pass. Yeah. You shall not pass.

1:59:17Sean Fennessey:65 that Lord of the Rings thing yeah yeah have you seen it? yeah once Gandalf I did okay he's standing before Balrog the ancient fire demon okay what are the tree people's names? Ents no but like Jim Ents 75 okay 75 what movie are we betting on? Werewolf why can't we do a watch along to one of the Hobbit movies? that's funny I Mallory would probably assassinate you I think if you did that that's fine that's why I was suggesting the Rohirrim but that's probably too bad I don't want to watch that I don't want to watch that I mean look I want to make more content about Lord of the Rings I'm just going to say it out loud I just said it's a bill on the rewatchables last week I'm trying you know I just I think they're very special those first three films the Hobbit films I don't know what happened something happened it isn't good the first three I'll say 80 bucks I'm fascinated by Werewolf I hope it's good I can't shake Chris's Wes Anderson insight, but I'm one of those people who's like, you're not seeing the Wes Anderson movie.

2:00:22Sean Fennessey:But we like Wes Anderson. I know, I know. That's fine. It wasn't an insult. Wes Anderson is more excited to talk to on podcasts, though, so that is one thing. He was lovely. To talk to on podcasts. To you. To you. He was a great guest, and he'd been somebody I'd always wanted to talk to. Rob Eggers is a really nice guy. It's not about that. It's more just that he's like, I'm clearly annoying him. Do you think it would be insane if in this auction we started opening it up to like multiple years and we were like drafting like the next Scorsese movie and shit? Oh. Sheesh. Well, you know... Like a 24-month...

2:00:56Sorry, I was reading about how this movie is going to feature early modern English so I wasn't listening. So what did you say about Scorsese? Like what if we started bidding on things that were also 27 like opening up the drafting? Well, okay. Oh. Is what happens at night... Going to be this year? Could that come out this year?

2:01:12Sean Fennessey:You never know. It completed production. It's June 30th. And they say that it's like smaller in scope, right? Well. And who's putting that out? Apple? Apple. I don't know. We're over 30 seconds. 85. Apple has two other films coming out. They have a Sean. What's her face? Coda? Sean Hader. Yes, being human. I was just trying to get there. Okay, great. And Tenzing? What's that about? I don't know. That's what it's called. Yeah. T-E-N-Z-I-N-G. Yeah. that's been on the docket for a long time they have more movies than that coming out Mayday is coming out with Ryan Reynolds you know what we didn't do and maybe we can revisit it when Amanda goes on vacation yep is Into the Grey you know I haven't seen it I think it's not that bad that's a great place to start we're at 30 seconds okay 95 what um what's a what is it is there a garbage nomenclature that we could affix to In the Grey I mean what if we just did Garbage Wolves Late Richie Garbage Richie What if we just did Late Ritchie?

2:02:14Sean Fennessey:I feel like we've done that about like five times. I'll do it again. Okay. I'll always do it with you. If I need to revisit Guy Ritchie's The Covenant, I will revisit it. Wasn't there another one that came out this year that we didn't recognize? There was an Alan Richardson movie that came out last year. There's one coming out later this year, I think, called Wife and Dog. A hundred bucks. Okay. Wife and Dog. Yeah. That's the name of your modern literary podcast. Wife and Book. 105. Thank you. This is not a Guy Ritchie movie. How much money does Sean have left? 580? More than you. And how much money do I have left?

2:02:53I believe 574. This is a normal way to spend it. I just, you know what it is? I just, I thought I would get more out of drafting things that you guys had seen and being like, nah. Yeah. It really doesn't, it doesn't hit like, it doesn't hit the same. No, it's not. Yeah, it's not as fun. $200. oh okay wow

2:03:16Sean Fennessey:I'm going to think about that for a minute werewolf what are you saving your money for I don't know if I have a movie that's going to get it to 85 oh and you don't think werewolf will you think that everyone will appreciate the technical achievements this is the problem is he's seen too many things yeah what do you think Nosferatu's Metacritic score is 72. What do you think?

2:03:4674. I think it's probably right around there. 78. Yeah.

2:03:49Sean Fennessey:We're at 30 seconds. I think you can take it. So we need just one movie with Metacritic over 85. Okay. I got to figure out what that is. Okay. Now is the Odyssey getting over 85? That's the thing we don't know. I think so. I don't know. I want to throw this out there. There's a chance for a backlash with The Odyssey. I'm not saying it's not going to do well. I'm not saying it's not going to be good. But there's a chance for a backlash. They tried already. Yeah, they tried to cancel it. That was like a anti-woke thing. Oh, you just think people are going to see it and be like, nah, try again? There's just so much hype.

2:04:34Snooze.

2:04:35Sean Fennessey:Now, obviously, Oppenheimer defeated that fascinatingly. Like, that was a historical drama. that he drove to$980 million or whatever. That was amazing that that happened. And this is not me wearing my Nolan Hader hat. I'm actually just kind of curious culturally. I was just like, this a week after 6 out of 10 is like an interesting test for you. I know you want to be right, but you also want to, you know? No, it's more like if I'm considering can it get to 85? He's also now... Will it be critically as acclaimed? He would be on a... What? like eight year like undefeated run of commercial and critical I guess Tenet is looked at as like a misstep but that was more COVID than anything and we love Tenet Not by me

2:05:24Sean Fennessey:Right now Variety Variety says these are the top 10 Oscar contenders Okay Michael Michael is literally on the list Wild Horse 9 The Social Reckoning I don't believe that for a second Project Hail Mary The Odyssey La Bola Negra Fjord Dune Part 3 Digger and the debut I mean that's you know past performance is no indication of future performance for a couple of those but but it's also it's a at this point in the year we're always like there are five that we're sure of and five we have no idea and so that's that seems like some decent guessing some of those will some of those won't this is a fascinating podcast do you think that does he have a pick now What's happening?

2:06:09I have a pick.

2:06:10Sean Fennessey:Because Chris doesn't need to take another film. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my question is, do I take the debut as my bid for a chance at 85? Which is likely to be an Oscar movie. Have you heard anybody who's seen it? Do you know any word on it? Nope. My gut tells me I'll see it at Telluride. I have no confirmation on that, but that's where it feels like it'll premiere. Did you see Jesse Eisenberg very deftly handling social... It's what Aaron Sorkin said. I do not want to be associated with that character as there's a Minions poster behind him. Did you also see that Michael Mann went to the Minions premiere?

2:06:43I didn't. Did he review it? Michael Mann? Yeah. I don't even know where he would have put that. I don't know. I just listen. I think he took his family. That's cute. Who must be Minions fans.

2:06:52Sean Fennessey:The other movie that I could take that I think he's going to get 85 is Wildwood. Okay. Which is the animated movie that Travis Knight's second film of the year after the Masters of the Universe situation. Okay. I didn't realize this until I was in the bookstore I knew that Wildwood was based on a book I didn't realize it was written by Colin Malloy the lead singer of the Decembrists and he wrote this one of your favorite bands not a band I love but a doorstopper novel okay it's like a 500 page novel that I bought and I started reading that to Alice last week very good maybe a little maybe a little mature I was gonna say it's a graphic novel it's not you're just reading a 500 page novel proper novel it's like Harry Potter though I mean it's the same thing oh I see okay I didn't it's sort of like it's sort of YA okay sort of in that like 8 to 14 range and the movie looks amazing I think it is the trailer of the year I know you guys don't care about stop motion animation but the trailer is just breathtaking and I think it's gonna be a great film I think it has a chance to be a great film okay I know you don't care well do you think that people will hold Masters of the Universe and other things against Travis Knight critically I don't think so I don't think people even know who Travis Knight is.

2:08:04Don't you think the critics, though, who are registered on Metacritic know? I'm just trying to help you here. I'm not going to get in the mix with you on this. You have more money than me. I think they have a Brie Larson voice. So what you're talking about, you're trying to decide between Wildwood and the debut. I can't believe I'm in the position of defending animation critics being like, that's rude. They don't use AI.

2:08:24Sean Fennessey:Of course they know who Travis Knight is because he, you know, led the Halika for a long time and has directed animated features for sure. I don't know there's got to be another movie out there like Clarissa which was it but we didn't see it as a movie I'm curious about you mentioned Tenzing right now you're looking for 85 I'm 85 hunting what else I mean what else is out there when does your mother your mother your mother come out it's in the fall haven't seen that yet either yeah that's Bassem Tariq yeah it's basically the plane crew which is like let's make a movie which I'm excited about yeah La Bola Negra is exactly the movie I would have taken if I were not at Cannes.

2:09:06You know, this is very boring, but I left. And so I have two Cannes titles in my back pocket that I'm going to do.

2:09:13Sean Fennessey:Although I don't think I was getting 85 either. No, but there's another one that I think will. And, you know, and away I go as soon as you conclude. And I'm trying to be supportive here for you. You know, I think that you should pick the debut. because I'm team Eisenberg yeah I think I'm also team Eisenberg Jesse yeah I want to see him continue to make films this out of respect to Jesse Eisenberg I'll pay$100 for the debut okay and then you just leave the other 480 on the table out of respect for Jesse Eisenberg also that's right okay we may we may need to eventually address the thousand dollars okay why well we We didn't drive each other up enough on other films.

2:09:57I know. I know. That was the move. The triggers and the you guys going to Cannes. Next time, just don't go to Cannes. We'll have a more exciting pod.

2:10:04Sean Fennessey:What are we going to do together in that time? You're going to go somewhere else. You don't care. We'll just stay home while you go. You go to Cannes. You know what was not auctioned? Even by you? What? In either auction? Speaking of Cannes, was her private hell, which you skipped and you still have not seen. Like where you're, you could have come. You could have been there. I didn't appreciate his disrespect to this film, and it's actually like a sore spot. It's a little bit of a... Well, you could have bought it, and you didn't. I think that it sounds like NWR really empowered those actresses to have creative equity in the movie.

2:10:41And I'm surprised that you dismissed it.

2:10:45Sean Fennessey:The film is now, in my mind, part of a 10 Movies We Missed episode that will air later in July. That's fucked up. Well... It's not good. I don't know what to say. I was with you on Copenhagen Cowboy. Yes. You could have been there in Cannes leading the charge. You were where? I could not have. Why not? I was, I went to Portland. Okay. And I also, I'm on like 10 pods. There was a third bedroom. You know. There was. You would have had to share a bathroom with not me. But, we could have made it happen. One thing I didn't mention on any of the Cannes podcast discussions was the size of the bathroom that I used.

2:11:22Sean Fennessey:Not large. But you got the shower. Did you give him the option? I did get a shower, yeah. So I took the larger bedroom, and then I took the bathroom with just the bathtub and the shower head. So, yeah, so he actually got a shower. Much nicer bathroom, though. Well, I'm sorry. We can rearrange it next time. You know, whatever. You could not have fit into the bathtub. I can fucking rent my own chateau. That's what I'm going to do. That'd be dope. Okay. Okay, so you believe in her private hell, but you chose not to spend any money on it. There's beautiful tiling in that bathroom. I mean, there's plenty of films that I X'd myself out of.

2:11:55Nobody took Avengers Doomsday.

2:11:58Sean Fennessey:What about it? Nobody took... I mean, you guys couldn't take sequels, so there are not many opportunities to take that film. You did the debut for$100. Oh, okay. I did. Shall I do mine very quickly? Yeah. And then we can... Yeah, do yours. Yeah, so I've done the math. So for$88, I'm going to take Minotaur, directed by Andrei Zbashinov, which won the, what's the second one? The Grand Prix. The Grand Prix at Cannes. And it's a remake of The Unfaithful Wife and then also Unfaithful, but set against the backdrop of the Russian war. What? Landry Schammett signs new four-year deal to remain with the New York Knicks.

2:12:45Sean Fennessey:Come on, baby. It's going to be such a hard come down for you. Let's go. I can't wait to document it tirelessly. I'll never come down. We already won. And then for$87, Love Bola Negra, which is another film that I did not see at Cannes because I went to celebrate my 10th wedding anniversary. Acquired by Netflix. Mm-hmm. And a sweeping... Penelope. Magisterial film. What a year for her so far. She has a very small role in the movie, but unforgettable, as is Glenn Close. Less memorable. Does she play a wife? No. She plays a literary historian. Much like myself. Well, I think she's a bit more seasoned.

2:13:30Sean Fennessey:I liked La Bolanegra. Yeah, you texted me afterwards and I'm like, this is, it really knocked me out. And you said it wasn't perfect. Yeah. But I was jealous. I was really upset that I missed both of those at Cannes. It's a generations spanning. It takes place across three timelines in Spain. And it's like twice in the... 20s and 30s. Is it based on a Lorca novel? No, it has a lot of Spanish poet history in it. And one of the timelines is sort of, not present day, but maybe 2017. And it's, you know, three different queer characters, three gay men over those periods of time and how they intersect with the fascists.

2:14:12Oh, it's based on like an unfinished Federico Garcia Lorca. That's what I was saying.

2:14:18Sean Fennessey:it isn't like based on it inspired by inspired by yes inspired by sorry so would it have been eligible in the 2010 redraft oh because of the parameters of that sure yeah it's all like a tangled series like chicken wire up here with the different rules that I've created for all these games yeah and I'm doing my best I know you guys are doing your best too and I appreciate you playing along I think we are doing our best can you well just create a game Like create one game. I think that my value proposition is to be ready to play any game. But I don't come up with the games. But here's the thing.

2:14:57Will you create a game? You want me to create a game? Yeah.

2:15:00Sean Fennessey:I just asked you that.

2:15:04Well, there are many other games that could be played. I still think that what's... What kind of nice results? No, no, no. You guys are such assholes. I know what you want to say is you don't actually like playing games very much I love playing Heads Up and I think Heads Up is very fun excuse me you know what I am visualizing playing Heads Up whatever happened today for you I'm visualizing let's just restart let's see would Heads Up work as a podcast I don't know I mean there's probably like a video way that you could set it up where the audience could see it but the other people can't I think I'm pretty inspired don't want to leave our blind listeners behind Inspired in heads up.

2:15:45Okay.

2:15:46Sean Fennessey:I guess that's the thing is how many people are actually listening versus how many people are actually watching. I don't know the answer to that question. Yeah. If what happens at night comes out, we're going to feel stupid. We are. Yeah, but who can be blamed? I mean, like we were working with the best information we can here, right? I think we feel stupid a lot of the time when we look at our auction results six months later. It's very true. I think that's part of the exercise. Here are the films that I listed that went undrafted, okay? Un-auctioned. Un-auctioned. Avengers Doomsday, you mentioned?

2:16:18Yeah.

2:16:19Sean Fennessey:Tony. The Anthony Bourdain. Oh, man. Matt Johnson. Yeah. Biography. Although, probably not going to hit a lot of the triggers. Probably not. But in terms of movies, I'd like to potentially have my slate. I mentioned Wildwood. We talked about Street Fighter. The Great Beyond from J.J. Abrams. Oh, yeah. We talked about Street Fighter. Did we talk about Street Fighter? We did. Amanda and I were discussing it while you were I don't know, jerking off or whatever I thought it was a drive-by We were talking, you didn't listen Oh, you were talking about it on this podcast? Street Fighter, yeah, it came up Amanda said that was one of the better video game trailers we saw I think you can still jerk off after you have a vasectomy It just doesn't have any of the stuff in it Of course you can jerk off after you have a vasectomy What are you talking about?

2:17:04Nobody would get a vasectomy

2:17:05Sean Fennessey:Can't you jerk off after you get your nuts cut? that's not that's a metaphor you're misunderstood yeah no it's a figure of speech for like Chris Paul it's not cut in time are you gonna step up yeah you said you made a proclamation that you understood how these things work after Jackass 5 I said that I'm learning and there are things that I do know and things I don't know you're the mother of sons I know that's what I'm saying I do most of the time I'm just like hey Zach can you come check that that look normal you're gonna have a crazy next 15 years I know that it's going to destroy you. You have no idea what these boys are capable of.

2:17:42As I think we learned, it is destroying me on a weekendly basis, okay? And now, like, here I am, ready to hank, and he's just, like, no-selling me everywhere because I don't have the right ad blocker installed. No, I'm not no-selling. I think you need to start looking at us for what we are, which is your refuge. That's what I was trying. Your sanctuary. And I was trying to suggest fun games and talk to you about your macros and your weightlifting. I'm just in a sensitive place with it because I'm just not sticking with it enough. I'm not consistent enough. Well, that's why I think you should come do something that's more portable with me in the hotel.

2:18:17You know, when you were saying you watched the Hunger Games Ballad of whatever in the hotel room? No. Do a Soto Method instead, buddy. Did you already find the spot in Toronto in which to do it? I do have several recommendations for Pilates, but you've already told me you're not open to an in-class Pilates experience. I'm not going to go to a class. A bunch of Canadian women and me in a Pilates class.

2:18:36Sean Fennessey:Do you want to come over and Google image search Brie Larson with me?

2:18:43Sean Fennessey:Laugh is terrible. Other films. So The Great Pillow is directed by J.J. Abrams. That's Gracie Abrams' dad, in case you guys are wondering who he is. Your Mother, Your Mother, Your Mother, you mentioned. Godzilla Minus Zero. I thought about it. Sequel. Yeah. I'm pretty excited about that. We also saw some stuff from that. I didn't. I missed it. Oh, you missed that. Because that's my set. Once again, once a trip, I fuck up my alarm. Oh, right. And that because I don't use an alarm at home. You're not like a... Zach wakes me up every day. Oh, my God. Yeah, with coffee. And that's why I married him and not Jacob Lurie.

2:19:17That's the only reason. It was 50-50. And Zach came in with a last second offer. Yeah, but so I always fuck up the alarm. I set up for like a.m. instead of p.m. or, you know, turn it on.

2:19:31Sean Fennessey:There's her private hell and then there's a place in hell. which is Daisy Edgar Jones Michelle Williams and Chloe Delmon's next movie which is a Christmas release as well that looks fun Sense and Sensibility you have any thoughts on that? that is also Daisy Edgar Jones it is big year for her have you seen the 1995 Sense and Sensibility? for sure I have good I get them mixed up like a lot of the Austins I get a little mixed up there's Emma there's Pride and Prejudice and there's Sense and Sensibility there are three more do you know those? Mansfield Park yeah you got two more one's a place North Ranger Abbey yeah and one more and one more which is a classic is it a woman's name um Persuasion yes there you go together you did it and I'm proud of both of you I never would have gotten North Ridge Abbey North Ranger North Ranger Northanger yeah yeah I don't know that one you caught up on the plot of Pride and Prejudice since we last spoke

2:20:32Sean Fennessey:probably not okay uh pride and prejudice is mr darcy yes yeah i know that one okay since its insibility is um eleanor and marianne dashwood sisters and mr willoughby yeah jade austin could she come up with like a different plot doesn't it seem like she kind of ran the same one out there a couple times boy i wonder if this gal should get married what do you think let me ask my sister the cinematic universe I have a Pilates class to get to let's wrap this up uh hexed Disney added a feature sure I think inspired by Jane Austen right cool yeah she loves witches she's actually bad Jane Austen loves witches that was good some of the best stuff do you ever wish you had a sister uh do you think it would change me I do I do you do yeah what do you think is wrong with me less masturbating I think God The Young People knew Oz Perkins horror film also undrafted Fatherland we mentioned teenage sex and death yeah we weren't well I regret it I mean look I think I got distracted by Clayface we'll go through I wanted to ask you guys briefly because I know you have a class and I have to attend to some personal matters

2:21:47does this make you guys looking at all these looking at our our remaining films. Do you feel excited for the rest of the year?

2:21:57Sean Fennessey:Cannes made it harder. To feel excited? Because it took a bunch of stuff off the table that I look forward to. I catch up on a lot of the Cannes movies historically with Telluride. So now I'm not going to have to watch any of those movies which makes conquering Telluride easier but it makes the year a little bit less like The Secret Agent was one of my favorite movies of last year and I had to wait many months after that movie premiered at a festival to see it and then I saw it and I was able to watch it again and I liked that and maybe there'll be a ton of great stuff at the Fall Film Festivals this year.

2:22:23Sean Fennessey:I do think that there's a couple things that are kind of make or breaky on the year. Like Digger, a lot is riding on that movie. And if it's not, if we don't love it, or even if only one of us likes it, it makes it a little less fun to talk about. I think if Cliff Booth was coming out in theaters, that would make it feel a little bit different. There's something strangely, not anticlimactic, but I think it's like, it'll just feel like it's gone in a weekend no matter what it is. Yeah, it's two weeks, but I know what you mean. Oh, it's going and is it going wide or is it just in select? I think it's in a thousand IMAX screens.

2:22:57Okay.

2:22:58Sean Fennessey:Well, which is an experiment that we'll probably spend a lot of time talking about on the show but even cover it's like I guess you cover that the day it comes out. Right? Because it's such a huge movie for all of us. I think so and also holiday weekend of it all. Yeah. I'm excited. Me too. It's great. I like it when movies come out and I get to see them. I like it too. Okay. Chris, you went first So why don't you do your slate? Can you scroll down a little bit? Thanks, bud. I got Wild Horse 9 for$110. Whale Fall for$310. Papered Tiger for$5. And Fjord for$1. And I should note that I got those for so little because they have already been seen by two of my competitors.

2:23:38They'll definitely tell everyone on Instagram that. I'll do a forward-facing. I've never done a forward-facing video. Okay. And I will do that for this. That would be exciting.

2:23:46Sean Fennessey:Just give him a heads up. Yes. Okay. And then did you see that thing where Callum Turner was like, James Gray kept me on the phone for three hours? Yep. Werewolf for$200. Just blessed. Okay, I went second, so I'll go. I got Primetime, the Robert Pattinson vehicle for$75, the End of Oak Street for$235, somehow managed to get Spider-Man Brand New Day for$5, Clayface for$105, and The Debut for$100. I have$480 remaining for my sleep. Well, that's just bad financial planning. I got Behemoth, the new Tony Gawai movie, for$715. Here Comes the Flood for$10. Other Mommy for$100. Minotaur for$88. And La Bola Negra for$87, I believe.

2:24:31Because I only had... That is correct. Yeah.

2:24:34Sean Fennessey:Okay. And I have nothing left. Who won? Emotionally or financially. Who won the year?

2:24:43Well...

2:24:47did you win? I mean, you have the Odyssey and Spider-Man, but... I know,

2:24:52Sean Fennessey:but I don't know if I have an 85 on Metacross. Oh, and if I don't, I lose. you won by the things. Yeah. Right? I've got my $100 million movies. I think I might have won. Possibly. Where do you think, you think Fjord will get your... Fjord will get an Oscar. I think Wild Horse 9 could get an Oscar. Where's your 85 coming from? Fjord? I'm not... Paper Tiger? It could, but I don't know. It could get mad. Yeah, people could get mad. what if it's whale fall what if everyone's just like electric best thing ever is when a movie like that gets a high critic score well if it's like the highest version of what it is that actually can you know critics can meet the moment we've really been selling whale fall on this podcast I know it better be the best fucking thing that ever happened I can promise that um okay well thank you both for playing another one of my games sure I really appreciate you I think you're both very special people sorry for no selling you it's okay I just got distracted by the pop-up ass.

2:25:46And just the whole not being able to jerk off after a vasectomy. I was wondering what was wrong. Now I know. That was a really weird comment. I said that you could. I'm going to have a bad dream about that comment. It's getting your nuts cut. I don't think you'd be able to if your nuts were cut, right?

2:26:00Sean Fennessey:We might say get your nuts cut fewer times going forward. Just you saying it fewer times, please. Super cut. Thank you to our producer, Jack Sanders, for his work on this episode. Thank you to Lucas Cavanaugh, Manning, The Clock, and The Doc. next up the Diane Keaton Hall of Fame yeah okay not on that I gotta go watch a lot of movies yeah well we have one week I've done some of my work fortunately my dear wife loves herself some Diane Keaton so she's been riding shotgun with me while we power through some of these films I wish you luck with years 2008 through 2025 I said I'd do it is Tracy taking the first no Tracy's not I'm not participating in this one.

2:26:43Oh, but you've already watched the other ones? Well, I mean, I've seen many Diane Keaton films, and I really thought that I knew everything, but, you know, I missed Palms. So... That'd be cool if she had, like, a whole Redbox era that nobody knew about. She does. She kind of does. She kind of does. She has the elder lady version of that. Love Weddings and Other Disasters, starring Diane Keaton, Jeremy Irons, Maggie Grace, Diego Bonetta, and Andrew Batchelor.

2:27:06Sean Fennessey:Me either, but I'm... Before we go, what are your thoughts on Woody Allen? Okay. Okay, thanks for listening. We'll see you next time on The Big Picture.

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We’re back with the second part of our 2026 Movie Auction! Chris Ryan returns to look back at the results from the first auction (thus far), and then Chris, Sean, and Amanda bid against one another for some of their most anticipated movies coming out during the second half of the year.

(0:00) Intro

(1:17) ‘Werwulf’ trailer reaction

(5:20) The 2026 Movie Auction returns

Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins

Guest: Chris Ryan

Producer: Jack Sanders

Production Support: Lucas Cavanagh

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