A Crazy Good NBA Rookie Class With J. Kyle Mann, Plus Tua’s Cleveland Adventure, and NFL Week 7 Picks With Joe House

26:52Cause fears for somebody I was lower on. I think I had him in the twenties and then because of those things. And I'm just kind of going line by line. And I'm like, I had him kind of low, didn't I? But then you just look and you're like, all these guys are kind of showing signs that they're going to be good. Yeah. And even, even young Hanson for, for Portland, I would, that was one that I was lower on. And it might ultimately be just like a lot of people got duped by the lack of information. And Portland just had a crazy advantage with the tape because apparently the tape was just really hard to get on Young.

27:20And it was really limited on synergy. So you kind of had to be a detective and go get that stuff. But yeah, this class is looking like it's going to be going to be good. I mean, you don't want to overreact, but it's looking good. The fears problem. That's been a bus type of profile, right? Those guards that they don't have a ton of size. They're fast. But like, what's their what's their calling card? so we'll see with him. Just zooming through, I saw Yang. I called him Yang for the entire Overrunners podcast. I'll get it down. But he's clearly something. Yeah. I don't know what he is, but it's like, I just signed me up for more.

27:58Clayton looks like he's going to play right away. And then this Berenger on Minnesota seems like he might actually play and fits the profile of somebody who succeeds on a winning team, right? Long, energy, athletic, rim runner, shop walker. Don't ask him to do anything else, but they kind of needed a guy like that. So I feel like he's going to play. And then we watched a little Maliuch on Maliach. Maliach? Maliach? Yeah. We watched some of him on Tuesday night. And it was interesting because he was playing against DeAndre Ayton. and they're kind of very similar bodies. And just like he's, it was funny, like they got rid of DeAndre Ayton so they could basically take the next DeAndre Ayton.

28:46But he really tries and he can second jump, which I think when you look at somebody on that size, if you had that one jump and then kind of the play's over for you as other side, like he was able to get back up. So there's something there. I liked him in college, but I thought he fit in in an NBA game. Have you seen him? Yeah, I mean, my worries with him kind of started. I worried about some of these faster bigs, like jumping, getting to the ball quicker than him. I think for him, it's going to be a question of just learning how to like wager in a smart way whenever he's like in, you know, in space with a really fast player, like learning how to stay down and let his length just be his strength.

29:22Because the more he like goes for things, I mean, Brooke Lopez mastered that. There's a lot of guys who have it. He's a smart kid. I could see him doing that. But yeah, he's, I mean, he's even bigger than Aiton, right? I mean, I think he's longer than eight, and I'm pretty positive. Like kind of a little longer, but they're around the same size. Yeah. The only other guys I wanted to mention, and then you tell me who your favorite random guy was. There might be something there with Jace Richardson. And I didn't have him on my bingo card, but I'm just kind of monitoring that one because he's unlike anybody they have in that roster, but I'm just intrigued to see if he plays.

30:02And then Gonzalez on the Celtics. They keep throwing darts at the board of these athletic wings who can't really shoot but really try hard. They kind of failed with Jordan Walsh. Gonzalez, I think they've been impressed by, and I think he's shooting a little better than they thought. He's like an absolute maniac. He's actually crazed, and I'm wondering if he might play. But those were the two that jumped out. Who's jumped out for you at post-lottery? I was going to say the Gonzalez thing. I was going to second that. everything that I've heard from them is a lot of enthusiasm. Yeah, like they're really, really loving him.

30:38I think they saw his upside as higher than consensus, and he is a maniac. He kind of reminds me of that just like pesky, annoying, high-motored guy that like OKC would take. And there's been some, I mean, we've talked about it before, that like OKC and Boston have some overlap in their personnel preferences that you've kind of been able to see. But yeah, I mean, I really liked him a lot. But Nick Clifford is a guy that I've gone to bat for. I don't know. I mean, if you were going to just siphon any little positive thing for the Kings, it's that I really do like Clifford. And I think Keegan Murray's good, obviously.

31:14And I do think that Devin Carter is going to be worth keeping around. I think those three guys, I was joking about when Clifford was playing well, it's going to be a shame when Sacramento punts him for Kuminga in January. But let's hope they don't do that. But he just looks like an adult out there. He can come at you from a lot of different ways. He can really pass the ball. He's a really good movement shooter. I just think he's going to be able to play for them really quickly. Well, now he gets to learn from Russell Westbrook. I could not believe that. Gets to learn how to lead a team. Great mentorship in store here for him.

31:52And then, oh, the Nets is the last thing. Have you watched them? Yeah. Yeah. The rookie smorgasbord? Did anybody jump out? I mean, Wolf actually looked better in the preseason games than he looked in Summer League to me. The impression that I've gotten is that they feel pretty good about the shooting upside of Demmon when he comes back. But Wolf looked really comfortable. He had one play, I think, where he was attacking Drew Eubanks. I mean, I might as well stick with it. I had him pretty high. I had him higher than Mollowatch, I think. I think I had him 13 and mile watch 14 but no I mean he attacked the basket at one point and to the right and came back to his left and then shot like a lefty soft left handed shot in the lane it's just all these Brooklyn guys man I mean if you want to talk about like the shooting challenge of a lifetime I mean they drafted four guys who like to be on the ball and they all are questionable shooters so I guess if you get maybe one or two out of the four that can get to the point where they make a shot but the team I agreed with you all from the over under pot I mean it's just It's just an abject disaster.

32:58All right, that's our preseason rookie blink test. I guess the big headlines are Harper and Flagg specifically. Like, really as a combo, it might be a pretty special twosome to get two guys in a draft who have a chance. I think both of them have first-team All-NBA potential. Flagg probably is a safer bet. But Harper, definitely. I mean, and you think like San Antonio putting him with Wemby together and just that being your foundation, like you're pretty good if you can keep Wemby on the court. But in general, this draft seems like really like a possible A-plus draft, right? I think so, man. When we're talking about 21st century drafts, like this is, I think it's going to be one of the storylines of the year.

33:42Did you, what about Yakut Sonis though? I thought for sure you would, did you have any kind of takeaways on him? I went all in. He had one bad summer league game and everybody made fun of me. And guess what? I'll be vindicated because that guy went seven picks later than he should have. And it was fucking stupid. And I don't know how Miami pulled that one off. But yeah, he is who he thought he was. He's fun to play with. He's going to be really devastating in pick and rolls. And I think he's going to play right away for them. I don't know. With this hero being out for 25 games, 30 games, he might actually get real minutes for them.

34:19and we're going to find out almost right away he's going to get thrown in the fire. If you're talking about thrown in the fire, guys, he's probably one of the few that a team's actually going to need, I think, especially if Rogier, I guess, is just whatever the hell happened with him. Yeah. He looked like he had real chemistry with Ware when he was out there. It's just kind of like you want to say the Pajemski thing because he's got the reddish, blondish hair. You want to do the aesthetic bias thing where you're like, no, that looks like that. He's a better passer, though. It's close. they're both pretty creative.

34:50I don't think it's a ding on either one of them to say like, you know, they're both kind of in the same, but he's going to be dared to shoot, but he's young. I don't, you know, if you're riding him really hard as your primary guy, I think you're going to come away frustrated, but if he's just kind of moving within the teeth of their offense and he's got good hands on defense too. I don't know. I think he's just going to be a nice rotation guy for them. You know, so. All right, before we go, give us 45 seconds on why Reed Shepard is the X factor of the 2025-26 season? Because this was your guy.

35:21You were all in on him being good. You know, as another white guy who's six foot one and from Kentucky, I felt like I took a personal interest in Reed Shepard. Shocker there. You threw the name Mark Price around, was thrown around at some point. You threw a couple big names around with him last year. I did. I don't think he's as wiggly like as a pull-up shooter as Price. I think that was off, but I think he's more of a... I wrote something before the season started where I was just talking about how they might use him. People are just assuming he's just going to be pounding the ball all the way up there at the top.

35:52I think if they have him be super, super aggressive with his shot, just start with that proposition. And then if he doesn't have a shot initially, he's running off screens and things like that. I know they want him, like three-point attempts is a great stat for them. They're not as obsessed with the mags. If he gets them up and establishes that audacity for their offense, that's something that they can use. And you've seen him. I mean, he's being hyper-aggressive. He's not afraid. He's a really good connected passer. I just think it's going to take some time before they can really lean on him.

36:23But, man, yeah. I mean, he turned the ball over immediately twice in a row when I turned the game on the other night. But he steadied the ship. But that's... Yeah, man. I mean, as long as he's aggressive from three and not a liability on defense, I think that's a good starting point for them with him. One thing I noticed with them, they just put him in the right corner. And you have Durant at the top. and you have Thompson kind of floating around being Thompson and then just Shepard you just he's just pulling the you have to you can't leave him because he's got the quick release he'll stand up by the hash mark sometimes they'll have him like post up there like 38 feet away and it's like you gotta take a step towards him but yeah he's got that rare thing where he if he gets the pass right he can just flick a three the no dip like he doesn't yeah he there's like five guys in the league like Curry obviously I think he probably invented it but there's five guys in the league who could just do the quickies.

37:18So they got that. But anyway, I thought, it made me think, I wonder if they're just going to use him almost as an off-the-ball, you-have-to-worry-about-this-guy-over-here-guy-to-basically-open-up-the-rest-of-the-space-for-them. I still don't understand how their offense is going to work with guys who just, I don't want to say ball stoppers, but I'll say ball stoppers. I want to see who's the glue guy that kind of combines everything is a big question I have with them. I think they'll try to go get Dinwiddie. I feel like E-May would kill Dinwiddie. I can't imagine that relationship working. Yeah, I don't know.

37:51No, I mean, I think the last thing I'll say about the Rockets, if you were going to give one positive, and I said this in this piece, is that I think the guys who are making decisions off the catch, that is one area they upgraded. If you're talking about Jalen Green and Dylan Brooks, and you're talking about, like, you get Durant. Durant's a better passer. I think Shepard's a better passer, just a little smaller. So, I mean, that's one thing that you can work with. But I think that initial like on-ball to off-ball toggle thing is something that he can do now. So, yeah. All right. Kyle, man, what's your next thing for the ringer?

38:23We're starting up draft stuff, wrapping up a gigantic project that I'm hopefully going to be able to announce soon. And then, yeah. So, we're just going to start covering the college season and the rookies. Awesome. Good to see you. Thanks. You too. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. Every football season, the same thing happens. The game somehow makes everybody really hungry. Quarterback scrambles, clearly a sign for breakfast burritos. Yeah. Turnover, suddenly dessert at 2 p.m. doesn't sound so crazy. Wing formations, well, those can only mean buffalo wings, as if they're ever not in play.

38:56Even the goalposts start looking suspiciously like french fries. It's almost like football is sending the message to eat more food. Yeah, the good news. Uber Eats makes those cravings easy to satisfy with game day deals all season long. From wings and pizza to chips, drinks, and even last minute grocery runs. Don't sleep on those. You'll find savings on all your favorites delivered straight to your door. Order now on Uber Eats. All right, Joe House is here. It's Thursday afternoon. I'm on the East Coast. We've already done like four and a half hours of content this week. But just in a normal week, if our picks had been going as badly as they had been, maybe I just bump you for the week oh house was on the NBA over under spot I'll just get somebody else for this week but we had a really good week though we were four and own Verno was own one on our picks poor Verno yeah trial separation would have made sense but buddy when we fuck and it's good we have to stick with it we gotta stick together let's talk NBA over under the aftermath really fast okay because FanDuel I talk to them because they do the super boost every year and it looks like this is going to be the super boost and they're going to be pushing this starting on Friday here we go the Milwaukee Bucks a team that you me and Zach all agreed on as locks at 42 and a half triple lock 45 plus wins for the super boost because we needed something Golden State 45 plus we all were over on them at 47 and a half so we're getting a little value there.

40:32And then OKC, who's over under with 62 and a half wins. We all love that. That's 60 plus. So Bucks 45 plus, that's going to be the hardest one. Warriors 45 plus, and OKC 60 plus. That's going to be around plus 415, plus 420 range. And with the Parlay Boost token, gets bumped up into the plus 535, 40 range, however it nets out. So that's the boost, and we need the Bucks is basically how this needs to go. So the question is, who's going to fuck us? You think the answer would be the Bucs? Well, they would have to overachieve three wins beyond their, or two and a half wins beyond their over-under number.

41:13We think that 45 is probably the right number, especially with some developments that we're going to see coming in the East. Yeah, we had them in the four to five to six range in the East. And, you know, I was thinking about some of the picks we had after and some of the arguments we had. and like what would be your do-over? Because for me, I think I'm not positive I was in the right spot with Orlando with the under. It was 50 and a half. And I think I just, I had too many overs. And now I'm looking at that going, why did I go under on those guys? I didn't feel good about it to begin with. I'm queasy about Orlando.

41:51I feel like we, I'm not that concerned about that. It depends on 100 % health. Well, why did that team with all those young guys have bad injury luck last year. Like those guys, Franz Wagner is young, Paulo is young, and Suggs is young. And Suggs is not starting the season on the basketball team. Right, well, that's why I backed up. Yeah, so I just, I don't think that we were in the wrong direction in terms of Orlando. The one that I personally would do over is San Antonio because the way that the West is shaping up, you and Zach both went over on San Antonio. I went under. I don't like going under based on a thesis that depends on a little bit of injury, bad luck, but I did it.

42:34But I would do that over because I'd like to be on the side of just rooting for the Spurs to be awesome and for Wembe to be awesome all season. I thought you were going to be a coward and actually flip your pick on that. Which, by the way, Zach did. What did he do? He added a locker. Zach had one. He did a 180 on one of his picks. which I thought was pretty funny. It's okay. That's our first time together. Well, the biggest tragedy of our podcast, we were very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very hard on the Sacramento Kings. Very hard. Zach. Very hard. Tremendous job by Zach Lowe. We just were carving them up.

43:15And they got spiteful and mad and upset that we did that. And they signed Russell Westbrook the next day. And they deprived us of the ability to talk about it, how fucking crazy of a signing that is for over 100 podcasts. It's like, why are you doing that? That would have been five minutes of content. How dare they? It would have been tremendous because they told us just suck it. We're not giving you anything else to add to your highly inappropriate snark from their perspective. And then here's the other thing they did. Keegan Murray, who's starting out the season hurt. I mean, he'll come back.

43:48They gave him$140 million for five years. Oh my God. How did we miss this? Can we do the worst contracts, the NBA worst contracts next week? We do it after the all-star break every year. And I'll tell you something, Keegan submitted his resume for top 10. Right on first week of the season, we got a resume in. Those are my least favorite contracts when it's a guy who can't be an all-star and you're paying him basically right under that$30 million a year. Those are the ones, like from Patrick Williams, in the Bulls when they gave him 90 million for five. Yes. That range basically from Patrick Williams to Keegan Murray is like the fucking graveyard of bad contracts.

44:32Yeah. And, you know, it's the team not having a firm conviction. So they kick the can with a shit contract. And he's one of those, he seems fine on paper, guys. Yeah. You watch him and you're like, oh, hypothetically, I like him. And there's some other people like this. It's like, I probably like Jabari Smith more than most, but Jabari Smith, for the most part, has been a hypothetical guy versus an actual guy. And yet, at least he has size and I can play him as a stretch five. Keegan, I can't. We should just give that category a name. I think it's the Emmanuel Quickly, the annual Emmanuel Quickly.

45:09That's another one. That's the one. Like, that's the contract. Yeah, the Raptors have like five of these contracts. They're like tweener contracts. Yes. they're like a notch under an all-star spot but you could probably get somebody to make four million dollars a year who could put together 85 % of the same stats that's where the issue is that's why I didn't even like that Jovic contract but anyway other than as we head toward opening day I think those are the biggest NBA stories that happen fun good stuff let's talk NFL we did well last week we were 4-0 I like the slate this week you said you only like 3 games we have this new pack where we don't talk at all about the games beforehand so I have no idea what games you like and I was just gonna go through the stayaways first and stop me if any of these were your games okay great I don't want any part of that Lions 5.5 over the Bucks oh interesting why not because I don't know who's playing receiver for the Bucs.

46:17I don't know who's playing defense for the Lions. I don't want to bet against Baker Mayfield ever the way the heater that he's on, but I also don't really want to bet on the Bucs when I don't know who's playing. The line is in the Vegas zone for a reason, and it just felt like a stay away to me. So early in the week, I was plowing into the Lions. I have a ton of Lions exposure. They have a tremendous record off of a loss, the combination of Dan Campbell and Jared Goff. I lost some of my enthusiasm. I'm saying it right now. I'm not going to buy out of the position, but the Brian Branch suspension is bad.

46:49That's bad for a team with all of the injuries in the secondary. That dude is heavy lumber. And for him to be out plus the secondary, no, I do still think for the Buccaneers this is the moment where it finally catches up with them, but it seems like Mike Evans is practicing. I'm starting him in the Fantasy League I care the most about. Also, there's cheap touchdown potential for them, Taylor. Stop it. It's fine. It's fine. I'm not. So it went from a love for me into like a like. And, you know, again, the Brian Branch suspension was a, I'm not going to use the word I was going to use. A bummer.

47:27Very fun game to watch. And I look forward to belatedly doing a Bucks. Giant, giant overs. Yeah. I feel like on Sunday, I'm going to do a Bucks tease with the over and probably just out of pure boredom. We'll see. I think the thing that I love the best about when you are in Boston, it's really dangerous. The FanDuel flow. Oh, my God. Is it dangerous or is it glorious? Why did you use the wrong OUS word? In the eye of the beholder. I mean, the text that I'm getting from you, you're just sitting there firing, firing, firing. How long are you in Boston for? I'm only here for a couple of days. But, you know, the problem is I'm leaving Saturday and there's going to be some runway bets as well.

48:17We'll see a couple of those. A couple firing them off. Well, the funny thing is, like, we're taping this before Pittsburgh, Cincinnati today, which is just the definition of a just stay away. It's a Thursday night. It looks like a classic bad spot for the Steelers. I don't want to bet on the Bengals, but I'm sure I'll talk myself into something just out of pure boredom. Plus, there's baseball. a little interspersing. It's great. Washington and the Cowboys in Dallas, I think is a stay away for us. No, thank you. Please, let's stay away. I think Dallas is going to win. Are you nervous about that game?

48:49Because that's like one of those... Are you kidding me? Yeah, you're in trouble if you lose. Have you seen Dak Prescott play quarterback? Yeah, you're in trouble if you lose that. Incredible. The pass defense for Washington is not setting the world on fire. They let Caleb Williams go right down the goddamn field for the game-winning field goal. I did not enjoy it. It's kind of a must win because your next three are at Chiefs, Seattle, and then Detroit. I think we can get Seattle at home, but the other two, those are losses. Put them in the loss column now. I mean, Washington's, you know, this is, they're going to have to battle hard to get to nine and eight and be in the playoff conversation.

49:27Are you, how worried are you on a scale of one to 10 about my bet that I have against you and every other person you know who likes Washington? I already took the 500 bucks and put it in a sock. Was I supposed to say the amount out loud? Well, we did. It was$500 a person. Yeah. I got an extra two wins because the Pats were plus 7.5 or 7.5 over under. Washington was 9.5. Those were the totals. I mean, that was it. We played it that way. Where it could get lucrative is it's win by win against Chang. The Pats have the easiest schedule the rest of the way. It's outrageous. It's outrageous. The Pats could just stumble into like 11 and 6 out of nowhere.

50:05The funniest thing that could possibly happen is the Titans beating the Patriots this week, except for it's Vrabel's revenge game. So I think the right way to play it is Patriots by 55 points. I'm going to be in the alt spread market looking at that. Well, when you said the funniest thing that could happen, I thought you were going to tell the story of the dinner we had with Chang and Nathan. I'm not telling that story. At Capo on Saturday night. No, because you can't say the restaurant's name if we tell the story. Oh, I'm not going back there. I'm happy to say it. I love that restaurant. I want to go back there.

50:36Well, they need to apologize to us. They, I think they apologized to me already. Did they apologize? It was an all-timer. He said they apologized. It was an all-timer. They brought bottles of wine and didn't tell us the price and tried to jack the price out of us. Like, we were like zonked out basketball players. We just didn't do enough sort of inquiry. They didn't tell us. And then they brought a dessert wine that we didn't ask for and then charge us for that. I've never had, I've been going to restaurants my entire life. I've never seen that happen. Well, the dessert wine is like just completely unnecessary.

51:13It is not, you know, for us. We thought they were like bringing us like dessert wine because Chang was there. No, they decided to bring us a bottle and charge it to us. The cherry on top. If I said what the price of the bottle was, people wouldn't actually believe it. Don't say it. Yeah, I'm not going to. Don't say any price. I'll never go back there. So I have no problem. I love it. I'm going back. They have my business for life. I love that spot. I hate, you know, when I, when I used to work as a waiter and bartender, we had this one, one waiter we worked with and it's like, you know, it's standard.

51:44If it's six people or more, it's a standard, like you add the tip, right? I think it was 18 % in the nineties, but you would tell the table. It's like the right thing to do. It's like the karma thing to do is to be like, hey, just so you know, the tip has been included. And this one waiter we worked with would never tell the tables, hoping he would get double tipped. Was it the J-Bug? No, the J-Bug would never have done that. Ever. The J-Bug is a man of integrity. I don't mean to suggest anything to the contrary. He is an all-time karma guy. It was this other dude we had, and he wouldn't tell the tables, and we would get so mad.

52:23It was like, this is fucking terrible that you did that. He said, Well, I got 36 % instead of 18. So congratulations, fuckface. I just think when you do stuff like that, the karma comes back. So we'll see. That's fine. We'll see with that place. Anyway, back to the football game. Broncos, Giants. Broncos minus seven at home against the Giants. That is two crappy offenses. Yep. I don't want any part of this game in either way. I have no idea who's going to win. I don't ever want to bet on Bo Nix again. and I'm not putting them in a tease, anything. The problem is it's them at home. The funny thing is it's basically the same number as the beginning of the season.

53:02The Titans at the Broncos landed. It was over the summer, seven and a half. It moved up to eight and a half and then the Titans covered. But it's another rookie quarterback on the road and there is a lot of reason to be skeptical about the success the Giants had. A rookie quarterback against a great defense who takes unnecessary chances. I'm just scarred from last week. We're staying away. It's good. It's fine. Last one that I looked at, and I was intrigued by the 49ers, minus one and a half against the Falcons. And especially Falcons coming off a Monday night game, great win. They're home. They're feeling great.

53:40Now they're on the road. Bosa's out. Warner's out. Who knows who's actually playing for the Niners? And it just felt like an awesome spot to be like, oh, yeah, of course. And my shit detector is going off. If it's a Sunday night game, I don't trust the Falcons. I just can't get there. Definitely don't trust them on the road under any circumstances. Just period. Their defense is first against the pass. It's fourth on third downs. It's seventh in sacks. All the stat signs are like, you should probably bet the Falcons here, but I'm not. It needs to stay away. Yeah, I agree with staying away. I will end up playing this game as Sunday night rolls around, and I'm going to play the Niners.

54:23just because we established the rule for ourselves so we don't play the Falcons on the road. I would probably do the Niners or some tease that takes the Niners to four and a half or something goofy. We'll see. By Sunday, Kittle might be playing. Right. They might have a couple receivers that we don't... Right now, we don't know who's playing. Is Purdy playing? We don't know. That's why they can't do it. I think that's worth monitoring. If that line stays under three and they get some guys back, Like Falcons outdoors, night game, California. Yeah. That feels a little bit tasty. So one other one, I didn't know if it was a stay away or not.

55:02Well, there's two actually. One is Texan Seahawks. Okay. Houston plus three and a half in Seattle. And initially I was like, this looks like a smash bot for Houston because I really like their defense. and I don't think the Seattle home field advantage has been there the last couple years. I mean, the record backs it up. I don't know what happened to it. Houston's defense, first in the league scoring, fifth passing, seventh rush. Seattle's offense has looked good the last couple weeks, but maybe Houston can disrupt them. And then you look at the Seattle defense, the stats, the stature, some of the stuff they're doing against Houston's really shitty offensive line.

55:49As Lombardi always said, offensive lines don't travel. You're putting them in Seattle with a loud crowd. And Seattle, second against the run, third QB hits, second hurries, third sacks. Just feels like, oh, I have yet Houston. And then a quarter in, you're like, oh my God, they can't block Seattle. So I think it's a stay away unless you feel strongly. No, I don't. I have a little on the Texans already because the three and a half is just too rich for me. And you mentioned how bad Seattle's been at home. The thing with Seattle that I can't forgive them is that loss against Baker Mayfield and the Bucs.

56:26That was a situation that Seattle, if you're a serious team, you need to take care of business. That's a seeding in the playoffs kind of game. The implications are there because Seattle already lost at home to the 49ers. So these are the teams that you have to beat if you're going to be in a serious place come playoff time. but you're right in terms of we can't bet on the Texans with that offensive line we just can't do it if we were 20-10 in Ringer 107 right now I might have talked myself into it but we need wins there is one parlay that I didn't stare at for a while if you take Houston to plus 7.5 and you take the under up to 47.5 I don't see 48 points in this game with the two defenses unless there was some weird turnover special team shit.

57:16I just don't think... Just play it all the way up. Play it at full teaser. Texans up to nine and a half in whatever the total is for the full six. Well, the 47 and a half, you're getting like seven extra points for the over-under. 47 and a half is a nice number because then... Yeah, key numbers are 47 in total. Yeah, that's a lot of points. So anyway. And then the other one that I think is a stay away, but I'm willing to be talked out of it just because I probably overrate this team. Saints plus five and a half in Chicago. Yeah. Is this one of your three? We're playing this one, buddy. Oh, okay.

57:49Let there be no doubt. Let me move that one up. Okay. The other one I was looking at from a tease standpoint, Jacksonville and the Rams, and sadly this is in London, which has become, we're 0-3 in London games. Jags are plus three. Ostensibly are going to have a home crowd. Who knows? Yes. Rams flying there. Puka is questionable and probably not playing. and if he plays these on one leg, that makes me nervous. The Jags are just goofballs, but the spot I was thinking that made me feel better about this is a parlayer tease taking the Jags up into the 7.5-8 range and making the Rams have to beat them by two scores late because I'm not positive they can, but the London game scares me.

58:37So what do you think of that one? We're not playing it. It's, it's, it's, we have, there's a reason that we have a rule against playing the London games. There's a, I mean, we're, we're just not playing it. We've broken the rule for three straight weeks. Big, big dumbasses. Uh, so having said that, I do think the Jags are the correct side and directionally, you know, putting them in some, there's no reason that you can't sit on the runway Saturday afternoon and, and fire off whatever you want on that. We just can't put it into this contest under any circumstances. You wouldn't even put that Jags plus eight and a half.

59:11Fuck no, no, no. They're playing in London on Sunday morning. There's a reason that we have a rule. So the Chiefs minus 11 and a half at the Raiders, they're minus 700. And I think for any parlay, they have to be in. Rice is back. Bowers, I think the Raiders without Bowers is just, I'm just not afraid of them. I know there's some history with these two teams. the Raiders have beaten them weirdly, like maybe two times over the last four years. But this to me feels like they break Rasheed Rice out of the garage. They drive them around. They do little wheelies outside in the street. They zoom it down.

59:52They rev the engine a little. And they probably take their foot off the gas in the second half. But I feel very comfortable throwing them in some sort of parlay. Okay. On the money line? As a minus 700. Yeah, it's like we do a three-teamer. Great. I feel great about putting them in it great no problem no chance the Geno and the Raiders nothing anything scare you no no Chiefs kind of quietly up to number three offense in the league by EPA now catastrophe is the only thing that scares me with that pretty bad they barely beat Tennessee last week who then immediately fired their coach and the coach's dad Callahan Tyler fires Yeah, the Raiders kind of beat Tennessee's ass.

1:00:37Tennessee tried to show some life in the fourth quarter. 20 points. Tennessee is so bad. Callahan Tire Fires is no longer. Our guy Callahan finished 4-19 against the spread for his career. He's the number one worst against the spread in the history of football since they've been tracking spreads. It's amazing that I think I only bet against them half the time. At what point in your life do you brag about that? Like when you're like 65 years old and someone's like, I heard you were a coach. Yeah, coached an NFL team. Really? What team? Tennessee. Coached there for a year and a half. Pause. You know, I have the worst record ever against the spread.

1:01:15Nobody's ever done worse. There were 23 opportunities to bet for or against me. And if you bet against me, you won 19 of the 23. It's a record. It's 80 % of the time you bet against me, you won. It's never happened before. He's a record holder. That's it. He is. You know, I'm a record holder as an NFL head coach. Yeah, I hold a record. Really? What record? Well, it's a weird one.

1:01:42Also, like, how did Hugh Jackson not have the record? You put that question into one of the threads. Did anybody answer it? There's no way that Hugh Jackson did very much better. A little bit better, maybe, but not very much better. 4-19 is just incredible. I'm in awe of it. Yeah, in awe. It's like when we were growing up and they would show Bob Beeman's Mexico City Jump. Right. And you'd be like, oh my God, he jumped four feet further than everyone else. How did he do that? 419, really amazing. Great stuff. The outer limits of human achievement. That dumbass Tennessee owner group, they fire the GM, they fire Vrabel, they hire this guy, and ran Carthon, they fire him.

1:02:26They've had four firings in two years. What an amazing. We need to look up some alt spreads for that one. They should have Vivek Ranadave as their minority owner. Get him in there. Shots. He could own a piece of the Titans. That's disrespectful because Sacramento, at least, they were lighting the beam just a couple years ago. It wasn't that long ago. They did the beam for like six months. Yeah, but that was a good team. And they took the Warriors to seven games. Like, you know, when's the last? Tennessee was the last good when Mike fucking Vrabel was the head coach. They went 12-5 with Mike Vrabel.

1:02:56Yeah, good head coach. Yeah, this decade. Speaking of the Titans, Pat's Titans, it's in Tennessee. It's the first game after a fire coach. And it's been Drake May National Appreciation Week. On the ringer for sure. What do you mean on the ringer? On everywhere. Watch ESPN. I flew to Boston on Wednesday and I had ESPN without the sound just on the TV. And it was like 17 Drake May segments. I mean, these advanced stats for him are unbelievable. Why are you so... Hey, listen, I'm sorry you got the wrong quarterback from the draft and then he's two years older and then he's not as good as Drake Bay.

1:03:36Let's see the Patriots in the AFC Championship game and then we can have that conversation. Fair enough. Thunderstorms and wins for this game, and yet I am not deterred. I think the Pats have to be in a parlay with us. I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. I want nothing to do with it. I'm literally in the alt-spread market right now for that game on the idea that Vrabel would like to win by 20 or more points. And if you want to lay... Oh, you mean like a pour-it-on game? Yeah, pour-it-on game. Why wouldn't he pour-it-on? But here's the problem. It is the new coach situation, which is not favorable for me.

1:04:11That didn't work. Didn't work last year. I'm just saying in general... I think they've been 0-2 with the new coaches last year. It's not a favorable situation. But the thing that... They're terrible. Tennessee's terrible. They're terrible. The New England Patriots put the fucking ball on the ground five times against the Pittsburgh Steelers. The New England Patriots beat the crap out of the Steelers up and down the field, but put the goddamn ball on the ground. I just am not there yet altogether. I can't trust the team. I will put a small bet on them. Fortunately for me, I have two picks that I get to make myself.

1:04:48I get two. This is true. We split two and you get one. You're right. You're right. You're right. You are the boss. You didn't even make a case against that. You were just like, I don't know. They put the ball in the ground five times a month ago. They did do that. Congrats. They did that. Did you feel like Packers Cardinals should be in any sort of parlayer? No. Packers minus six and a half in Arizona? No. No Marvin Harrison, I'm assuming, because he had a concussion. Third string running backs for Arizona. Maybe Jacoby Brissett again. They showed some life against the Colts. Now, what that tells you is some more about the Colts, which we'll get to soon enough than about the Cardinals.

1:05:25But the Cardinals are playing. You know what I mean? Like, I just... The Green Bay team is too schizophrenic for me. They left the back door open. I mean, we were almost in a situation where Joe Flacco was going to have the ball in the fourth quarter with a chance to either tie or take the lead. Come on, Green. That's at home. That's at Lambeau. I don't trust Green Bay yet. I'm telling you right now, just for you, I am going to play the New England Patriots It's minus 19 and a half. Available on the FanDuel Sportsbook. This is why I'm playing it. At plus 420. The kids know what that means. Plus 420.

1:06:00Can we start a new segment with FanDuel called Runway Bets? Airplane Runway Bets? That's one of those that I wouldn't do until the guy's like, please shut down your phones. We were about to take off. Please make sure your belts are faster. Like, oh my God, I got to bet the Pats plus 420. Let me get this off. Hold on, pilot. Let's take a break and then we'll talk about the games that we love.

1:06:51All right, this is interesting. So we didn't talk about beforehand which ones we liked. You said you like three games. Have any of them come up with? Was Saints one of the games? Saints was one of them, yes. Okay, let's talk Saints then. Saints plus five and a half at Chicago. Saints outdoors. Bears overvalued. So those things cancel each other out. Bears defense, 32nd yards per play. 31st against the run. They have no pass rush whatsoever. And a pretty lucky win against your dumb team last week with your stupid turnovers. More than pretty lucky. The effing Washingtons fumbled the ball at midfield with three minutes left in the game on a third and short with a chance to just win the effing football game.

1:07:32The goddamn Bears have won two straight games by the score of 25 to 24, one point. And both of them have been these preposterous outcomes where the other team is like, would you like to win a game this season? So dumb. I'm so upset with it. But five and a half. You know what's funny? they always talk about turnover regression and regression on fourth down, all this stuff. And you had all these amazing stats last year. And we're watching in real time this season, the regression just flipped. Like last year, third and three from midfield with the chance to put the game away. You would have taken two chances.

1:08:08Put it away. I don't know what the difference is this year. The offensive line isn't as good. There's no receivers. no McLaurin right so that's the difference and Jaden had a bad game alright so what's your case for this Saints plus 5.5 it's a ridiculous number it's the Bears the Bears is the case like 5.5 what are we talking about if you wanted to say the Bears at home you know by 2.5 or something some reasonable number less than a field goal but this is based on priors that don't exist this season the Saints are averaging nearly five yards per play on the road against good teams, against Seattle and Buffalo.

1:08:52They did it against New England. This is the easiest defense that the Saints will have confronted by far, by a long shot. And, you know, the Saints have better net yards per play. There's a whole bunch of stats that just support the idea. We're not saying that the Saints are good. They're competent, though. They're playing hard. And we're seeing in front of us Rattler growing more and more comfortable, even if they end up in a game script where the weather is going to really mess with this. I'd much rather have the Saints offense in bad weather than the Bears offense in bad weather. Bears can't run the football.

1:09:30The Bears got lucky with a with a with a real route swing pass to goddamn DeAndre Swift against my Washington team. where Quan Martin thought he was playing two-hand touch. He two-hand touched him on the sideline and then won 55 yards for a touchdown. That was the game deciding goddamn touchdown. I am not a believer in this Bears team. Give me all the five and a half points, and I'll probably play New Orleans on the money line as well. It's a great case. I'll add this. New Orleans, they lose 20 to 13 in week one to Arizona. First week, they actually were a little more competitive than I think people realized.

1:10:08And Cardinals went up early and the Saints were like coming back trying to win. There was like a wide receiver with the ball in his hands in the end zone with 13 seconds left for the Saints. It just didn't stay in his hands. The ball fell out of his hands. But we're about to tie that game up. 49ers week two. Lose by five. Another respectable effort. They get killed by the Seahawks in Seattle in week three. That's a good defense game. Turnovers. That game was all turnovers. Their net yards were fine. At Buffalo, hung around the entire game. Whole game. And I watched that game and had that game on and was shocked how they were able to get first downs and just kind of hang around staying.

1:10:47They beat the Giants 26-14. Last week against my team, 25-19, we watched together. Some awful calls. Some of the worst calls ever and multiple times Pat's guys were wide open down the field. But they pressured May. They were around him the whole game. They moved the ball. Like, Rattler was okay. Like, they had a chance to win that game. So their schedule has been pretty good. Like, they haven't played a shit team yet, unless you count the Giants. I don't think the Giants are a shit team. They're not one of the five worst teams. No, they're not. I agree with you. I think this line is too high. That's why I had it marked down.

1:11:23The other thing that I like, and I'm tracking now that we're enough weeks in, I'm looking at the allocation of tickets because the public is getting annihilated. So I just want directionally to have some validation, some confirmation. Right now, 60 % is on Chicago. That's on the FanDuel Sportsbook if you go under their stats thing. 60 % of tickets on Chicago. So directionally, that makes me feel good. One of the most fun is taking a team right after they looked awesome on a Monday night game. Right. And also, Aikman was really hard on Caleb Williams in that game, and it turned into a story. But I don't know.

1:11:59I stand with Trey Aikman. And? I mean, the Saints are going to play zone coverage and the weather's going to be bad. Let's see it. Let's see it, Caleb. I like, I mean, you know, I'm rooting for Caleb. Went to my high school. Can we talk Panthers-Jets? Was that one of your three? It was not. Panthers minus one and a half at the Jets. Tic-tac game. Yeah. And I'll admit, Bryce Young on the road has been admittedly rough. It hasn't been great. It's been a home-away situation with them. At home, they've been good. Panthers finally with some skill position, guys. defense not terrible fourth against the run sixth first downs allowed Jets defense 32nd forced turnover something's got to give with them and Bryce Young on the road Panthers defense ninth against the run and their issue is pass defense the Jets don't have Garrett Wilson and we're already 32nd out of all the teams in passing success every metric ever yes so there's two things one would be you could say, well, if the Jets don't win this one, they might not win this year.

1:13:04Like, this is a nice spot for them. The other one is like, maybe there's something here with Carolina. Like, to get over the hump, they'd be 4-3 after this game. We could go, whoa, my God, the Panthers are 4-3. I think this is going to be Justin Fields' last start ever. Well, do we know for sure that he's starting? Have they announced it? He might have already had his last start ever last week. It was up in the air. I thought the news reports were suggesting that Tyrod might be the starter. Great. There's some news out there that suggests that. The Jets are terrible. And I thought Denver, we watched that game together too.

1:13:42If Bo Nix slides in the first half over the marker, I just think Denver wins by 30. This feels like it just boos the whole thing. Anyway, I like the Panthers. So you're not as enthused. Just because, I mean, let them show us. Let them go win a game on the road. Just show us that you can do it. I don't care. I don't care who, you know, it's, I don't like going up against a team that hasn't won yet. Even in the completely depleted state that the Jets are in and the coach, that head coach, he will soon enough again be a defensive coordinator. I like when he's, Aaron Glenn's already doing the, I've been, I watched this with Dan Campbell.

1:14:27it takes a while to build a house doing that whole thing. It's like, you know what else would help build the house? Calling timeouts for the end of the first half. A little foundation. Using the right materials. Some game management maybe helps the house. Construction manager. Yeah, some of those things could help. Was Vikings-Eagles one of your games? I gave it a good, long, hard look. Let's give it a hard look now. Vikings, plus two and a half at home against the Eagles who don't have Mitchell, a cornerback. Probably don't have Dickerson. There's like a million pieces you can find online about how different their offensive line is this year than last year.

1:15:08Carter playing hurt or not playing. Their best guy, their night and day when he's not out there. Z'Darrius Smith just retired. They have no pass rush anymore. Their top three pass rushers are now out. And hurting a cornerback against Jefferson and Addison. I don't love that. I assume it's Wentz. I don't mind Wentz against a really bad defense. But the Eagles, the real thing for me, I think you could say the Eagles have a below average defense so far this year. I think that's fair. They're somewhere in like the, if you have four tiers of defense, they're in the third tier. They're not bottom tier, but third tier.

1:15:47Their offensive stats are unbelievably bad. And they back up what we've been watching, which has been a big shit sandwich. 29th against the pass. 25th against the rush. 28th yards per play. 31st tackles for loss. And they're going to say it's Minnesota defense. Second versus pass. Second on third down. Third QB Harrys. They have Cashman and Van Ginkle coming back this week. They're home. They're underdogs. And I don't understand the line. What is the line now? The line is Vikings plus two and a half. Yeah, we would be playing at a Vikings plus two and a half. So here's the problem for me. This is why I was stuck on it.

1:16:25The Vikings haven't really done much in terms of like inside the numbers. They're 0.4 net yards per play better against Chicago, who they came back late to win against Atlanta with Pennix. Are you a full nerd on me right now? Well, I'm just like looking at this. Like they, you know, they have Atlanta, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh on a neutral field and Cleveland. Right. This is this is like these games, these teams that they played under these circumstances. Not really blowing me away with this Minnesota team. Now you would say, well, you know, Cashman and Ben Kinkle missed a chunk of a significant chunk of those games.

1:17:14Yes, they did. they were missing the two linebackers who were the fuel to their team. And the reason to be bullish on the Vikings is Jalen Hurts has been horrific, horrific against two-man and against zone defense. Absolutely terrible. And the Minnesota Vikings will blitz the hell out of him. But, you know, the only thing you have to, like, say to yourself is we're betting on Carson Wentz or have they said for sure that it's Wentz? Can I offer you this? I just looked this up on FanDuel. Vikings up to plus three and a half. Sheep's money line. Minus 120. Right at the cutoff of what we can do for a parlay.

1:18:03And now we're over the field goal hump with that. I don't hate that. I don't hate that because it still permits It's the idea that the Eagles win a close one. I don't like the defense, the matchup for the Eagles in any way, shape, or form. Chiefs money with Vikes plus three and a half. Okay.

1:18:28Okay. We have two comebacks by Minnesota that kind of have saved their season. They came back against Chicago in that fourth quarter, and they came back in the final minute against Cleveland. But we didn't have Addison the first three games. Now they have the two receivers with Hawkinson. Okay. I think they can run on them. I actually like Jordan Mason. I think he's been good. I have one on one of the fantasy teams. We also like O 'Connell off the bye, right? With a chance who's got a long look at this Philadelphia Eagles. The Eagles have been telling us who they are for six weeks, and they really could be two and four.

1:19:04Okay. I kind of like it. I kind of like it. Bikes plus three and a half, Chiefs money, minus 120. So that's one of our bets. Put that in the book. I marked it down. Okay. Two more games. Chargers-Colts? Did that one intrigue you? Oh, it sure did. Yes, it did. Chargers minus one and a half favorites at home against the Colts. The Colts have major, major cornerback injury stuff. They're just like, they've been ravaged. So there's that. We watched them last week play Arizona. and Jacoby Brissett, who was not a playable quarterback last year for New England. I think he went 27 for 44. He threw for over 300 yards.

1:19:45There was like a quarterback controversy in Arizona after the game. And the reason he did so well was the Colts defense was awful. And if you look at it, they beat Brissett by four. They beat Geno. They beat Cam Ward. They beat Bo Nix in a game that they should have lost, that stupid leverage play, and they beat two in week one. The Chargers have, it seems like Joe Walt's coming back for a left tackle. Oh. Seems like he did the limited practice, like might be back, and then Khalil Mack might be back as well. And it's funny. I started the week really liking the Colts and thinking they were underrated, but these defensive injuries, comes down to this for me, Joe House.

1:20:25This just to me feels like a Justin Herbert is awesome game. And we're going to find out if Johnson is playing, but I think he is. He's been limited practice, but if Brissette can do that against the Colts defense, this just feels like a Justin Herbert, just take us home. All we need to do is win by three, Justin Herbert. Just take us home. Yeah. Add this to your MVP candidacy. I'll ride you. And also, should the Colts really be six and one? Like that seems crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Good. We're on the same page here. All the reasons you just listed that that Colt secondary without Chavarius Ward, who has been incredible.

1:21:02Um, just he got concussed before the game. Yeah. Yesterday. It's a week long injury anyway, but I think that, I mean, he's had multiple, multiple concussions. Yeah. So I don't think we'll be seeing him. Yeah. They have no D backs. They have no D backs. The other thing I love is that the public is on the Colts right now. 59 % on the Colts. Now we wanted to get to 60%. So go ahead, public, please. Hey, the Colts, the chargers barely beat the dolphins last week. so let me have the Colts on the road. Okay, please, please do that. Let's get this nice 60 % for the public. Chargers the top six against the pass.

1:21:40So the thing that would worry me in this game is they run all over the Chargers. Taylor just goes nuts. Sure. By the way, they've played in LA already, weirdly. They played the Rams in LA. So they did the SoFi double. I don't know if that's good or bad for them. End loss close. Yeah. But. But do we really believe that Indiana Jones is going to be as triumphant as he's been thus far? Not one mistake. Let me ask you this. How many games in a row can Daniel Jones play before just having an awful game? Before just submitting a shit sandwich? What's a realistic number? Even if we're like the best case version of a Daniel Jones season.

1:22:27I mean, I have my right hand up. I'm ready to see it. This is the game. we've gone through six games where he hasn't been terrible in any of the games. He has not been. He's been very good. Where we haven't said, oh man, he's just walking off the sidelines with that weird look on his face. Chargers minus one and a half. The Chargers would be five and two if they win this. They will have earned it too. I think if they win this, first of all, it completely changes the complexion of Texans Seahawks on Monday night because the Texans can steal that one all of a sudden they're back. Isn't that right?

1:23:02But I feel like we're going to be flipping our opinion on the AFC South all season. Probably. All right. I saved the best for last. I knew this would be one of your games. There's just no doubt. We have the Cleveland Browns favored by two and a half against the Miami Dolphins. The weather report. I don't think ominous is a strong enough word. Here's what we know we have. Definite, definite rainstorm. The mile and hours for the winds, They said conservative 15 to 20 possibility of 50 to 60. Oh, the temperature is not going to be that low. So you, so with the two, a thing, it's like when two under four, two in the dolphins under 40 degrees dolphins in any scenario under 40 degrees, like just an automatic smash.

1:23:47But, uh, but two and bad weather. And then on top of it, their defense is 32nd against the rush. So if this is just a, it's bad weather, let's see who can run the ball. You have on the one hand, and defense can't stop the rush. On the other hand, you have a Cleveland defense that's third against the run and is good, even though they didn't look great last week against Pittsburgh. The most important thing, by a long shot, is that it's the Cleveland defense at home. The Cleveland defense at home is magnificent. And, you know, they took a season off last season, but the season before that, when they went into the playoffs with Joe Flacco as their quarterback, a dominant defense at home, We are right back in that saddle.

1:24:30Again, a dominant defense against the run in particular. And Tua not being able to throw the football in these weather conditions. Oh, the fact that this state... Only their third Browns home game this year, too. And you're right. They're a completely different team when they're home with the defense. Go ahead. Well, all I was going to say is... I forgot what I was going to say. I interrupted. The Gabriel part, too. Like, remember the situations that he was put into as a starting quarterback. He went up against Minnesota with the Blitz defensive florists. Welcome to the NFL. And then they lost a day.

1:25:08They traveled from Europe back to the United States to play Mike Tomlin at Pittsburgh. So, you know, I think this is his first, like, real week to be with this. Real normal game. Yeah, right, right, right. I don't think he's very good. I don't think so either. I'm not making a case for the game. You know who I know isn't very good? The Miami Dolphins. So how about this house? They have the 32nd rush defense, right? Last in the league. And we have some bad rush defenses. They played Kamani Vidal last week in the Chargers. They played Rico Daudo. They basically turned Rico Daudo's career around.

1:25:43They played the fucking Jets. They played my team that rushed for 22 for 45 with their two starting running backs last week. We can't run the ball at all. I'm making up Derrick Henry and Alvin Kamara trades with my friends. And then they play James Cook and Taylor, who are two of the best. But if four of your six games against those four teams and you're 32nd against the rush, you can't stop the rush. So this could be the Judkins game of all time would be my guess. Let's go. This is it. This is the, you know. Browns minus two and a half feels like a miracle. And I just don't understand why I stayed at two and a half.

1:26:22This is my favorite game of the year. I feel the same way. I love this game. I can't wait to watch Miami shivering cold with the wind. Miles Garrett coming after Tua. Tua in horrible weather. This just feels like a fucking godsend. Yeah. All over it. I wish we could bet this five times. Let's enter this into the contest. It says Browns, Browns, Browns, Browns, Browns. I wish we could do that. Today's Rager 107 brought to you by FanDuel. We are 14 and 16 for this season, but we had a lot of momentum from last week. We've had a lot of bad luck this year. And I feel like our luck is starting to shift.

1:26:57We have five picks. House has the first one. Saints plus five and a half in Chicago. You thought this line was three points too high. You don't like the Bears. You think the Saints are maybe a five and a half on the frisky scale? What else am I missing? It's time to pour some settle down juice on the Bears. Well, is there any bitterness that they beat your team last week after you just kept turning the Ball over and letting them hang around? Yes, yes, yes. There was a lot of bitterness. The Bears have won a couple of dumb games. Anyway, I think this is a three-point game and maybe the Saints can win.

1:27:29I'm with you on that one. Next one, we both like Chargers, Colts, Chargers minus one and a half. Fine. The Justin Herbert MVP game. Let's see it. Colts defense ravaged with secondary injuries. Let's go, Justin Herbert. Show us why you should be in this conversation with Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes and my guy, Drake May. outrageous. Maybe Josh Allen. I forgot about him. Don't want to forget about Josh Allen. But yeah, the Colts, this feels like a bad spot for them. Second LA trip for them already. We're waiting for the Daniel Jones. Don't forget that he's not a mortal lock to be good all the time guy.

1:28:06We are. Next one. Panthers minus one and a half against the Jets. This is my pick. Panthers minus one and a half. We're breaking the seal off of Bryce Young and the Panthers skill guys. Rico Dowdle, Tett McMillan, Jalen Coker from Holy Cross coming back. Think they can move the ball. Listen, we've said the Panthers only bet on them at home. I think this is when we finally get some growth. We get some stories on Sunday night. Panthers finally won one on the road where they look like maybe, ah! By the way, they could be four and three after this. And I think the Jets are just reprehensibly bad. They might be.

1:28:41No Garrett Wilson. The way to beat the Panthers, throw the ball on them. Jets, 30-second pass. offense. No Garrett Wilson. Sounds awesome. Next one is our parlay. Chiefs money line against the Raiders. Free to throw that one and it's minus 700. Pat's money line against the Titans. Callahan Tire fires no more. Pat's on the road. Ray ball all-time revenge game. House loves this for Pat's minus 19 and a half as an airplane runway bet. Plus 420. So, minus 19 and a half plus 420. Anyway, Chiefs money line, Pat's money line. We're going to bring the Vikings against the the Smokin' Marys Eagles up to plus seven and a half at home.

1:29:20Love it. And we think that can actually win the game. We sure do. But Chiefs money line, Pat's money line, Vikings plus seven and a half against an Eagles team that has not looked awesome. Right. And then last but not least, our favorite pick in seven weeks. Literally. Cleveland Browns minus two and a half at home against the Dolphins. Thunderstorms. wind estimated between worst case scenario, 50 miles an hour, scariest scenario, 60 miles an hour. And Tua and the Dolphins and DJ Mikey Mack. Yeah, mixed tape Mike. Just trying to dial it up with their 30-second run defense as the Browns run all over them.

1:30:03Their defense goes nuts. And we like the Browns at home. We sure do. Quinch on Judkins breakout game, more breakout game in that defense against us. That's great. Let's go, man. That's today's Ringer 107. It's brought to you by FanDuel Odds. Subject to change. House, you did so well. I want to pour you a glass of dessert wine and then charge you$500 for it. Don't say. Oh, well, that feels like a bargain. $500? You're only charging me$500? That's a bargain. Maybe I went low. House. Hey. Hey. I'll see you next week. Good luck in the Ringer 107. Good luck to both of us. All right. That's it for the podcast.

1:30:40Thanks to Kyle Mann and House and Eduardo and Gahal. Enjoy the weekend. I'm going to be back on Sunday night with the Cuzz talking NFL. See you then.

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