Round 1 Winners (Da Bears!) and Losers (the Eagles!), Plus Guess the Lines With Cousin Sal

24:47Remember when we would play with our kids when they were younger? You play like basketball with them and it's like two on one against dad. The kids are like six and eight and you're kind of half-assing it. But then somebody intentionally punches you in the balls and you get mad and you start trying a little bit and then you lay back again. The Eagles, they've acted the whole year like they're the dad playing their little kids. Yeah. And that they're like begrudgingly getting competitive. So this is a football game. They play with no pace. They try no trick plays. They try no chicanery at all. They never seem like they're trying to outwit the other team.

25:21And they have these two receivers that they're paying$60 million for. I think between the two of them, the longest catch they had was 15 yards. The longest catch, I want to say, was Goddard. Somebody had a 20-yarder for them. And it wasn't either receiver. So it's like, if you're going to pay that much for your receivers and your quarterback, but never throw the ball and never play with pace and never spread it out, never have fun. What's the point of having all of these guys? So what the F happened? Like what, what really happened? Like, cause Barkley and Hertz were amazing. You couldn't stop them by the goal line.

25:53And this is now, are they just that much older and fried? Like, this is like a racehorse turning from three years old to four. Like, all right, I have no use for these guys. They were so bad. They had to do so little to win. Like Purdy gifted them two picks, right? At home. Yeah. Ran for three yards per carry San Francisco, right? So it's not like McCaffrey crushing until he caught something. And it's like Shanahan never wins after losing by six or more going into the fourth quarter. And they let like Demarcus Robinson and Kyle Huschek beat them really, really bad. How many Americans found out today that Demarcus Robinson was on the 49ers?

26:29Probably like one-fourth of the audience. I wrote down 12 minutes left. San Francisco was up one. And I wrote down Purdy two picks, McCaffrey 15 for 35 and just question marks. It was like, how are they winning? What are they doing well? But it all came down to the Eagles. The crowd, I think, booed every quarter. So if that was a parlay on Fanville, you would have won that one. Will the Eagles fans boo every quarter? I had that parlayed with pregame Aaron Andrews would be attacked by a herd of skunks. so that's what that was no she was dressed like Carmelo Soprano I thought that was a Halloween outfit yeah I thought you were getting attacked I saw that on I stole that on Twitter from the Sopranos World account that was great that was funny so here was my favorite part of the game because I did have out of I lost the parlay I had with the Pats and Eagles but I had the Eagles in these big teases so I actually survived with a couple of them Brady announcing that Jalen Hurts game was riveting because I've heard Brady talk enough and he always tries to be diplomatic, especially with other quarterbacks, but they would show like the all 22 view and he'd be like, yeah, I don't, I don't really know what he's seeing there, Kevin, but, uh, obviously he saw something and he just was, you could tell he was just dumbfounded.

27:48Like he just wanted to say like, Kevin, I don't know what the fuck this guy's doing. Yeah. What are these passes? Like what, is his agenda here? But Brady was like so disappointed and we've heard that too with Romo sometimes when a quarterback is really bad and they kind of don't want to breach the, it's like almost like mafia. You don't want to go against somebody who's a made man. The quarterbacks are the made men so you can only go so far, but I thought Brady was disgusted by. I think so. Like that, you're right. There's like, that's a bucket that we don't hear from announcers. From the analysts that were former quarterbacks.

28:21You got the Josh Allens where you could just like, if it's Allens against Mahomes, it's just that's a jerk fest for three hours. That's fine. Yeah. You're pulling your pants down at that point. Exactly. So that's it. Then you got the young quarterbacks, Cam Ward. You could always find something nice with them, you know, something like that. Or even we'll get to Trevor Lawrence and they're like running for first downs, but something like this, like it's just a shocker that this guy won Super Bowl MVP. And like that, he's not taking off more. Like there's no design runs. Like, I don't know. This offensive coordinator's got to talk about guys.

28:49This Kevin Petullo, he's awful. I mean, he's interviewed. He should interview with the Jets. He's that bad. I don't really get it. I wrote down the Gably Manifesto, which even though my picks weren't great, I thought hit some good ones today, including bad offensive lines don't travel with the Chargers. Possible Manifesto ad I wrote down. If it seems like a team actively despises each other, no matter how good they are, you can't lay more than a field goal with them. Oh, okay. Did it seem all season like the Eagles didn't like each other? And that was the storyline. and was like, well, they won last year and Super Bowl hangover.

29:27And it's like, all right, but these guys also don't seem like they like each other. And then that play with Sirianni runs over to yell at A.J. Brown. And Brady goes, they have a great relationship. They have a great relationship. It's like, they do? Maybe it's not so great anymore. But I say it's not great. He's just yelled at him on national TV. People broken up for less, I think. And then he drops a big pass. Drops a big pass and then doesn't get interviewed after the game. Yeah. and has been trying to probably get out of there for a year. But I think that was just an unhappy team, whereas this Niners team, even though they kept losing these dudes, like they still kept their team together and like the concept of pulling for each other and that you could feel it today.

30:09So it was literally like one team really cared about each other more than the other team did. Felt like part of the game. And yet I feel like if one guy wasn't on the field, and I'm not even saying he should have been replaced. If he just wasn't on the field, blank and ship, I think the Eagles win that game. Was he the MVP of the weekend? Disaster. Just a freaking disaster. I mean, the play that everyone's going to talk about is Juwan Jennings throwing that pass to McCaffrey, who Blankenship was supposed to blanket, and then the Willie Mays catch. And I think that was the only way they were scoring that drive, honestly.

30:43Like, there's two players who could hurt you on this team. One of them has the ball. He's ready to throw it. He's about to get attacked by four guys. And you're like, you're covering the other one. and you're like, all right, I'm going to join the other four guys even though I'm 15 yards away. What the hell? And then just three other plays that were just awful. So the heroes of the game, McCaffrey had a couple big, even though he didn't have the rushing stats, had a couple big plays. Robinson, we mentioned. The fullback had a couple awesome plays. And then we got to do it. Criticized them a few times on the BS pod over the years, but nine kids Bobby Salah I mean he might get hired now he might get a head coaching job like for real there's going to be like nine jobs available but he was what he did to the Eagles and what he did to their receivers I thought was really impressive like the other way to look at it is Lane Johnson's the most valuable player since Tom Brady retired because it just feels like they fall apart without him yeah but you know Barkley had 100 yards they just did stupid things right they didn't convert when they should have You know, this ends up being like a, you know, this ends up being like a fourth down fest.

31:53Who can convert and who can't. And just, you know, I just, the way, and I would say Shanahan deserves credit too. I mean, when a guy like Kittle goes out, you already have injuries. And you have to really like, you know, he and Kubiak have to adjust and the defense kept them in. Like, you know, we'll probably crush them next week, but good job by Shanahan. I think he's been awesome. And I thought he would have been the coach of the year before he lost the last game. Right. Vrabel or Liam Cohen probably gets out of the Liam Cohen loss today. Well, the big thing was they get that Purdy pick. They're down 17-16.

32:29There's enough time left. There's like nine minutes left. Philly's at home. It's like, all right, let's see some emergency guys. And they start their drive and it's like, okay, I'm already in my head. Like they're going to score, go for the two point. They'll be up seven. Now they're covering. Like you go through all that mental gymnastics and then the drive kind of stalled and they kicked the field goal and they're up two. Right. And I thought that was it. Yeah. At that point, I thought the Niners were going to win the game. It was one of those, they kind of had to get a touchdown on that drive.

32:58They just couldn't. And the, I mean, we didn't talk about this yet. This is, I don't know if a coach has ever been fired a year after they won the Super Bowl. It's probably, probably been making history. It's getting too crazy. Yeah. And I really thought LaFleur was, what we saw from him in the second half was going to be the worst thing we saw a weekend. Mm-hmm. It's fourth and 11. There's 43 seconds left. Right. Eagles need to get a first down and they're on like, what, the 22 or something? Mm-hmm. They don't like something and they call timeout. Mm-hmm. And they have three timeouts left. Brady and...

33:33And I thought Brady was actually really good today. I thought that was the most I've enjoyed him doing again. Brady and Burkhardt are fine with it. Brady's like, well, if you don't like it, you got to call timeout. It's a big play. And everyone else that's watching this has ever played a video game, it's like, you just lost. Like, if you don't get this, the game's over. You only have two timeouts. And I couldn't believe they missed it. And I couldn't believe they called a timeout. I'd rather have a delay a game. Can I say something? And I know I'm way in the minority here, and I'm usually with you the whole time.

34:00Okay, zag on me. Honestly, that was the game right there. That was the play. The offense looked so disheveled. Get a play. You make the timeout count. Don't throw it so that nobody's going to have a chance to convert or get it on fourth down. or don't call the timeout and kick the field goal. And then you're talking about the same thing, basically, stopping them and no time comes off because, right? Oh, that's interesting. I didn't think of that. I just didn't think they were going to drive the field, even if they were going to get, you know, stop, stop, stop, and then punt. So that play seemed to be the end for me.

34:37It's the classic, why are we practicing all season if we're not prepared for this specific moment? Right, right. It's like, oh, fourth and eight. Ah, need two more minutes to think about this. It's like, this is just, what's your best play? Yeah. Is it A.J. Brown one-on-one, just throw it to him. He either gets a P.I. or catches it. Like, what is it? Right. This is the time to call it. Is it Goddard over the middle? Hit, you know? I'm with it. It was really bad. We had, there was a crazy wind. We had the fight. We had Kittle getting hurt. We had a double reverse wide receiver pass. and we had the Niners somehow scoring on two straight drives.

35:15Trent Williams playing was a big part of this game though. Yeah. And it was like when we were trying to figure this out on Wednesday, Thursday, it was unclear with him and Lane Johnson which one of those was playing. Fox, when they were promoting this game on Wednesday, wouldn't put Trent Williams' picture against Lane Johnson. That's not how they would do it on the graphic. You don't think that would work? It really kind of came down to that, right? That one of them didn't play. Other NFC game and then we'll do the two AFC games after. Panthers, Seahawks. Seahawks by 10 and a half. It was the biggest road favorite line ever.

35:49Panthers, Rams. Yeah. I'm sorry. Panthers, Rams. I took the points. I didn't. It was the only one for our Ringer 107 contest. Somehow I'm 2-3 with picks this week and 0-4 in the Ringer 107 contest. Yeah. Yeah. Ask yourself how you can pull that off because I did. I'm going the other way in Ringer 107 now. I want to end up with by far the worst record and then have the big comeback next year. I want to go like 42. Yeah, I'm not changing anything. I want to go like 43 and 64. But Panthers, Seahawks, we all, the people that were around in our fantasy. Why do you want to call them the Seahawks so much?

36:28The Panthers, Rams, because I'm screwing up here on Netflix. Panthers, Rams. Seven of us come together at Shakey's in Hollywood, which we do every year. Right. Was this the most entertaining Shakey's game we ever had? I think so. So we saw Tebow, right? I think that would be the only one. Oh, no. Wow. So there were two that we thought of. The Tebow overtime. I should probably explain the Shakey's game to whatever new audience we have. Just don't keep saying it's the Seahawks, but go ahead. Yeah. It's Panthers-Ramps. Right. Shakey's game. It's the first game of the weekend, round one. They always put the least appealing game.

37:05our fantasy league gets together and we go to Shakey's because it's, it's, it was a pizza place in the late 2000s. That was pretty run down on, on Santa Monica Boulevard. Right. And we thought it'd be funny to do our banquet there. Yeah. Like the most run down pizza place in our area. And it's become a tradition to go to Shakey's. Like we could afford chicken Parmesan at like a decent restaurant. Yeah. We could go to like Dan Tana's or something. We don't, we go to Shakey's and it's usually an experience. Tebow versus Pittsburgh, 2011. Tebow's one great playoff moment happened in a Shakey's game and then Beast Mode against the Saints.

37:43I think those were the two best. That was good. You're not going to like this, but oh no, it was Ravens-Broncos, right? Was that a Shakey's game? Yeah, it was a Shakey's game. We might have stayed for the second game. That might have been like the second game kind of thing, but yeah. This one was great. And the funniest thing was Our groups all together, including our friend, Hanch, who we've talked about many times, Damoshek, our friend, Tony, who you and I used to share an office with on Jimmy Kimmel Live. You have, I don't, I don't, whatever college funds left you have. It's more. Whatever you're guessing.

38:17The names are involved. Yeah. So you come in pleasant and it's the fourth quarter starts and it seems like there's a big Panthers upset. You're sinking backwards in your chair and you're just focused on the game. and Hanchin, Damoshek, and Tony just start talking about the American Revolution doc on PBS. Loudly. Yes. Talking about different wars. What was the best part? And they're just going on and on. I almost felt like it was a bit. I thought it was like a hidden camera bit. Yeah. And I'm like, guys, three minutes left. Kind of a big upset here. And they're like, but here's the thing about Benedict Arnold.

38:55And they're just like going crazy. And you're dying and I'm dying. and our friend Randy is dying. It was hilarious. I don't want to say anything, but I'm like, this is the biggest upset in Shakey's history and in wildcard history, right? It's about to happen. And you're freaking talking to Amishak and Hedge. Like, General Cornwallis had it coming. Like, who gives a fuck? Like, this is not Netflix, right? It's PBS, this thing? This American Revolution thing? It's not Netflix. They're like, and how about what they did to the Quakers? And it's like, all right, fourth and three. It was amazing. So it was like watching you being honestly operated on.

39:32I was like, listen, this is a near disaster of a Shakey's outing for me. Like you and Hench killing Stafford. Stafford's like auditioning for MVP every single pass. Like, oh, Drake May would have completed that. He would have done. Yeah, he hits Puka in a helmet from a 30 yards. He's like, he threw it too hard. I'm like, all right. Then the American Revolution talk. And, you know, I'm about to get killed with this Rams money line. And Brad wasn't really fun. Like he fell asleep with his arms folded. and then he'd like occasionally wake up to make fun of the diminutive, you know, elderly women in the booth behind them.

40:04But that was it. I was like, I may have to leave. I don't know what's going on here. You missed Brad's most fun part when he reviewed Sinners for us. That was, that was, he thought it was overrated was his take. Oh yeah. Well, the best part, I'm sorry. I know Brad is our crazy, crazy friend for many, many years. But before I even got there, you're like, hey, hurry up. They only have the Rams game on, on two of the eight screens and Brad is yelling at the manager. I was like, yep, that checks out. And then I didn't hear anything from you. So I was like, yeah, they had a Bears Packers game on two of the TVs from NFL network from two months ago.

40:37I've noticed this in different restaurants and establishments. Yeah. Whoever's in charge of the TV, they're always put out. Oh yeah. Like you put it, you have a place and you have TVs all over the place. I assume part of the attraction of coming to your place would be people are going to eat and watch games on TV. and then you don't care what games are on the TV. And it's like, this is, we're in LA. It's a Rams playoff game. Every game should be, there was like a corner show and a corner TV show on NBA TV. They were showing the Packers Bears game. They had Spectrum Channel One, just a news channel was on one of them.

41:13It's like, but just go around and put Channel 11 on all these. Right. I don't know. I try. I think there's a way to do it. You have to have a deft touch. You go to the manager and it's like, listen, I have this great, great talent. I can control any remote you hand to me. This won't take a second out of your time. I know what channel every game is on. Just go about, do your thing. Just cook up a new batch of Mojo potatoes. I'll do this for you. And they get put out by it most of the time. Sometimes they're like, yeah, here, take it. I don't care. I don't want to do it. But yeah. I thought you said you went up to them and said, listen, if the Rams lose this game, I'm going to have to put my house on Redford.

41:53Can I please have the remote control? Grabbing all this leftover pizza and selling it in the parking lot. And then I'm selling my car along with it. Well, Stafford, it was an MVP roller coaster. Couldn't, like the lack of mobility, you could really feel with him a couple of times. But then every time it really started to look bad, he'd make a great play. He had a, I wrote down, there was a happy feet drop pick. After he'd had another pick and after he'd missed Adams for a bomb TD. And after the happy feet drop picked on third down, he was 11 for 26. Yeah. But then he, he kind of rallied. And what was interesting was Panthers through a pick.

42:33They had a field fourth and one. They lost their left tackle. They're hanging around, hanging around and they block a punt with four 30 left. Cause the Rams special teams is just going to be their Achilles heel. Apologies to George Kittle. Yeah. And the Panthers get the go ahead touchdown, but there's almost too much time left. It was like, they almost would have been better off punt 70 yard drive. end the game, but instead they score fast and the Rams were able to put together a draft. And that's my second talent, working the remote and knowing how to do the clock management. We talked about that.

43:02We said like, hey, quarterbacks need to play less video games and coaches, head coaches need to play more. And in the form of Madden, like knowing how much time is left in time management, because I know their head gets scattered. But yeah, Stafford was good. I think it was 12 for 15 down the stretch. He was good. Everything you said before that is true. Six for seven on that last drive. But again, it comes down to like fourth downs. They were 0-3, the Panthers, on fourth down conversions. And that's a turnover. Bryce was all over the place, which has been the experience all year. But it was weirdly like a moral victory win for them.

43:36But they didn't get embarrassed. They hung around. They almost won. There was some really bizarre coaching. Like McVay passed up going up 27 before halftime. Right, right. Could have been up 13. kick off, just take it, but decided to do the, there was a lot of fourth down hero ball that I'm sure the nerds have, have, uh, have, have supported all the time. But I did feel like it was a tipping point of like common sense in some of these. Yeah. You know, what's funny is we'll get to it in your game, but our ball, I like kind of had the same decision to make twice. And once he made one and the other, he decided to kick.

44:12Right. He flipped. Well, it probably would have said green go, you know, if he looked at analytics for both, but at some point, yeah, you're like, hey, let's get some points on the board. Enough. Harbaugh was like the guy at third base in blackjack who hits on 13 and then the next time it comes to them, he stays. And you're like, yeah, pick a lane, dude. It's not, it's not, you just got to go in one way or the other. What's the one you like doing more? Pretty bizarre last minute Carolina drive too where they had enough time left maybe to seemingly do something. But listen, I was suspect of the Rams.

44:46I didn't think they would be the team that came out of the NFC. I had Seattle, which Seattle didn't play and was probably one of the big winners of the weekend. But I just don't think the Rams defense is good enough. That's my big... I thought the Panthers proved yet again that I think you can move the ball on them. They have a pass rush. That's about it, right? Yeah. What do you see from it? No, that's it. I mean, they had Young in trouble a couple times, a few times, they put them down. And they're also penalized, which is weird. They had like 83 yards and penalties. that hurt him a lot. But yeah, you're going to get a couple of big plays now that they're going to see better quarterbacks.

45:23Caleb Williams, you know, they have to go to his backyard. So this is tough. I mean, I have them on. I love those cross. This is who's going to meet who in the Super Bowl things. I made a bunch of those and the Rams are on them. Not feeling great about that right now. No. We did have a good conversation about American Revolution. Yeah, well, we learned a lot about learned a lot about the revolution. I got to put in my two minutes about how, how, how Boston just saved everybody's ass. Some people should be a lot nicer to Boston. That was it. Yeah. Yeah. You thought that could end the conversation.

46:001775 starts everything. We don't get enough credit for that. Right. But, unless I can live bet this American revolution chat, cut it out. Let's watch the game. That's what I do. Well, we had a good talk because I was, I'd watched the Marshawn launch Marshawn Lynch, Beast Bud run on Twitter on Wednesday. It was just randomly on. I was like, that has to be the greatest run of my life. So we were talking about what were the best NFL runs we could ever remember. And I do think that's like a minus 420 favorite to be the answer. It's been around a long time. What did we say? We had a couple that stacked up, right?

46:35Dorsett's 99-yarder. Maybe not as important, but it was a Monday night, right? But it had the Monday Night Football crew. Yeah. Marcus Allen in the Super Bowl, Riggins in the Super Bowl. And then I think the wild card are the two Bo Jackson ones, the, when he knocked over Bosworth, but then the one when he's going down the sidelines and he's like on the 50 and the announcer's like, he's gone. And he just keeps going and runs into the tunnel. Right. That was good. But I think when you watch the Lynch one for what it meant to the game, it's an actual playoff game. They're like 10 point underdogs.

47:06He may, he either, I think like eight guys either hit him or bounce off him. and it's like a Benny Hill sketch. Camera shaking. The stadium's rocking so much. Yeah, I think that has to be the number one. But I don't know the answer. If we're going to go greatest reception ever, it gets a little harder. What about when Lamar Jackson had the runs and had to take off to the locker room in the middle of the second quarter? You're not counting that? I forgot about that one. Oh, and then we talked about Mendoza too. what's going on with him. Because I've landed on Mendoza going to Vegas as would be the funniest 2026 storyline.

47:48Poor guy. The least Vegas-y guy who could ever go to Vegas, and that's just where he's going to be. Mendoza, you want to come get me with us? I can't. Have fun, guys. I'll say a prayer for you. Like, least fun Vegas hang ever? His pregame meal is like dinosaur chicken nuggets and mac and cheese. and like, yeah, they're going to send them to the Crazy Horse 3. Like, yeah, no, sorry. It's going to be the hangover four as they finally break Mendoza at a bachelor party and he just loses his mind and disappears. Yeah. That's it. Let's go to the AFC. We'll do my game. Fine. Don't be ashamed. You did it.

48:28You won. It's great. Terrific. 19-3. Disgusting. Two teams that couldn't block. oh your guys couldn't block either we couldn't block they really couldn't block and uh and it was just a defensive battle that was the best our defenses looked in a long time but everyone's also healthy they had a great game plan they really took advantage of the fact that the Chargers don't have a left or a right tackle who should be playing um and Herbert has whatever's going on with his hand and got the crap kicked out of him and by the end of the game even though I wanted the Pats to blow them out like 10 % of me felt bad for Herbert.

49:08Yeah. I didn't know what he's supposed to do in that game. He's a tough bastard, right? So that's why you can't, you can't really crap on him. Right. But these are some bad losses now that he's been part of. Not that bad, like they should have won and boss, but you know, the Jaguars won where they're up 30, didn't do anything in the fourth, uh, that Texans game last, last January, he threw four interceptions. And now this one, I just don't know that offensive line ought to be ashamed of themselves. I know there's injuries. They've used like nine guys. But what were you guys, like 26th in sacks this year?

49:41Yeah. They've blocked better teams, like better runs. Like they just were not ready for this. I think Milton Williams being back and healthy was a big part of that because he missed like five, six games. And that was like the entire middle of the defense. But home crowd, Sunday night, West Coast, East Coast. But the big thing was I didn't feel like their receivers were ever open. And then a couple times when they were open, they weren't making plays. But even Keenan Allen had a drop. Gonzalez, before he got hurt, I thought that was the best Patriots game I've ever seen him have. He was phenomenal.

50:17He was all over the place. Collinsworth called it out a couple times. But it was like nobody was doing anything on him. And then he got, hopefully not concussed, some sort of possible something. And it didn't even seem like a concussion play. So status could be in question for next week. but I'm trying to think how the Boston media can get a little negative. No. Especially the radio shows. A couple of radio. No, they do this whole, there's a couple of Northeast cities that do this where they zag and they're like, they might've won, but they only won. And this was bad. And Drake May, that's why he's not going to win MVP.

50:55They're going to get super negative. I've watched every snap of Drake May's career. That was not a good Drake May game for about two hours there. I thought he was off. He was okay. What he did with his legs was more impressive than anything, honestly. And then you move the ball. I don't know. You do see how it's a little more difficult than when you play the Jets four times, right? But still, you were so overconfident. And it worked. It worked. How does this happen? I felt really good about the Chargers O-line. I really felt like that was going to be me. I didn't think they were going to be able to run the ball, and I didn't think they were going to be able to protect Herbert.

51:32But I thought May was going to be better than that. Like, he missed Hooper in the second half for a touchdown. He hasn't missed that throw in three months. Yeah, he's a little off-bound. He's nailed that all. I know, but he's nailed that throw all the time. He had a couple great scrambles. I did the one thing, we should have talked about this on Reiner Gambling Show, that whole... Remember that there was like four or five playoff games when the Mahomes rushing over-unders were too low? Oh, right, yeah. And they never factored in that he would just play differently in the playoffs. The Patriots have had the fucking, you know, kids' gloves with May with the scrambling all season.

52:08They don't want him to get hit. They don't want him to get concussed. He slides. He goes down. He didn't this game. He was really aggressive with it and trying to run around. And I think that playoff Drake, I thought that was the difference. Definitely. No doubt about it. I mean, that over must have hit in the first quarter, like with that first run. I mean, I know you kneel down. He's about the only over that hit. And then it's like, you know, I think it helped you that. I didn't see when they changed this rule, but Patriots are allowed to slap the, like get face used face mask penalties. And like, it's not a penalty.

52:40You could slap the head thing. That was great. I love that. It happened on, I think McConkie too. Like, I didn't know you were allowed to do that now. So that's, that's a great benefit going forward. I think that was a penalty. It came right after a ridiculous spot. So I felt like it evened out. Right. That's true. That's all. I never, I just did not. believe in this Chargers team as a playoff team. I thought they were lucky to get in and I just thought they'd had too many injuries. This never works, by the way. As a fan, when you call out the team you want to play, like three weeks ago, you probably, you said you wanted to play the Chargers, right?

53:13Yeah. Because they had no offensive line. Let that be the 2-7. And then you talk up May and everything. Is this one of the top three days of your life? I wanted to ask. No. Patriots win. Hold on. Patriots win. Top 25. Netflix. debut. Netflix debut. People wondering why we don't have makeup on. Right. Right. Right. Probably just me. But Amy Poehler wins. Right. Let's talk about that. She Amy Poehler won the Golden Globe for best podcast. Yeah. And deserved it because the podcast is great. She's a great person and we love working with her. So yeah that was exciting. Good job by you. I mean this has to be a top three.

53:49They doused Vrabel with hot water and lemon. I don't know if you saw that because we were just like going live. Did they do that and put honey in it? put on it. Well, Vrabel hugged Milton Williams and got head-butted in the nose and mouth and was bleeding. He loved it. He was trying to make himself bleed more. Coach is going in the blue tent after the game. It's weird. You don't see it that much. Yeah, it was, you know, I wanted, I was hoping the Golden Globe thing would turn out well and it was happening right during a Patriot drive and it was just a lot. I felt like I was overheating like a car.

54:20I was like, this is too much. I've seen this happen to you a couple of times when there's too many games and you just kind of like get that deer in the headlights, get an overwhelmed look. Did you, let me ask you this, Amy wins, but the Patriots lose, or you could have the opposite result. Which one? You know what's funny? I said to my wife two hours ago that you were going to do this. Okay. So you should have an answer prepared. I'm definitely not answering. Oh, come on. For the new listeners, when Sal and I worked together on Kimmel's show, and we sat next to each other at a desk, that desks right next to each other, writing jokes and doing shit every day.

54:57And anytime I was trying to work and you were trying to mess with me and you would be like, Simmons, you could only save one of your two parents. Which one do you pick? And you would just throw these crazy hypotheticals at me every day, basically. So I knew that polar one was coming because I've known you now for 23 years. Well, what's the answer? You don't want to answer? Come on, I think it's nice for the Netflix audience. I wanted both. I wasn't thinking either or. It was not a good sudden situation. All right. But I was happy. I did. I started to get competitive when the smartless guys handed out an award, though.

55:29Oh, right. In the beginning. oh, is this rigged? I didn't know we were rigging this. The smartless guys, they hand out the award, they get to do it. But big picture for Herbert. You said it earlier. 0-3 in the playoffs now. Yeah. The nerds love him. The nerds will defend him to death. Did you feel like he could have done more in that game? Other than maybe be a little more protective of the ball? What was he missing? When he was stepping up in the pocket and just before the line of scrimmage and he lets it fly, I don't think he hit any of those passes. And those are the only 15-plus yard passes I thought he was able to complete.

56:05If he drops back in the pocket, he goes through his progressions as good as anyone else. But that wasn't working. So everything else is like a five-yard pass. But I really thought he'd be able to hit. Although, I mean, you had great coverage. I don't know what to say. Again, defense was good. Well, can't we say the two worst playoff teams were the Panthers and the Chargers. Right? I mean, maybe tomorrow we'll feel that way about the Steelers or the Texans. Right, right, right. I just felt like they weren't at the same level. Even Philly, who, you know, shit the bed. But you can't say that team wasn't talented.

56:36That team had dudes all over the place. Yeah, those are the two for sure. The May thing, a couple other just deep cut Pat stuff. They really miss Matt Collins, who the announcers did not mention once in the game today. And I liked to Rico and Collinsworth. I thought they did a great job for the most part. Matt Collins, the blocking, he was like a Drake May security blanket. They would always get one deep pass with them and he got hurt just randomly. He had some abdominal injury or something like in the last two weeks of the season. But I just thought, I don't think they've looked the same since he left.

57:10And then May was too sloppy in the pocket with the ball. Like he, if they're going to play whoever next week, it's either going to be the Texans. They play the Texans next week who have a good defense. Yeah. You can't be that careless with the ball, with all the people around you. This is stuff he was doing as a rookie, and he wasn't doing it the last three months. He was way more careful with the ball. He was not careful. You're fine. You're going to get every single bounce from now until 2050. He fumbled. The offensive lineman grabbed it, a whirling dervish, switched hands and recovered. He recovered one of those, too, on the Chargers side.

57:44Vidal got one. His own, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they were. That was their biggest play for a while. Yeah. I do wonder, like, that first playoff game, there are some pretty convincing stats about a QB in their first playoff game, no matter who they are. Mm-hmm. You know, we have, like, the Quincy Carter types from way back, but then even, like, Peyton Manning, whoever, Brady, the snow game, he was terrible for two hours in that game and then finally got going. But I think we'll see next week because I know that I bet his standards are going to be a little higher and Vrabel pushed them a little bit.

58:17Vrabel's been awesome. The Virgin quarterbacks were 2-1. Virgin playoff quarterbacks were 2-1. He had a similar game to Caleb where it took him a while to warm up. Caleb finished with 361 and he didn't have the scrambling like Drake did. Oh, I know it. Drake finished with 17 for 29 for 268, but he was like 7 for 17 at one point. It was like way... Usually he's 75 % of his passes. He was 10 for 66 rushing. The big thing now, and I mentioned this last week, and I just wanted to mention again quick, the Ramondre Stevenson renaissance, who was the best guy on the offense today. And this was a guy the Pats fans were ready to wave after the Steelers game.

58:59You know, Brable stuck by him. It was one of the best things that he did. All right, the game I was the most wrong about. This was the only game I really loved. Jacksonville. Jags-Bills. Yeah. and I really thought the Jags were better. I didn't understand how the Bills were going to beat them. And as it turns out, the blueprint for them beating them was basically what happened. A ridiculous game. Allen throws to nine receivers. Allen runs the ball 11 times. He runs the ball for two touchdowns, including a 10-yard tush push. I think he had 14 injuries by the end of the game. I couldn't even keep track anymore.

59:38His wife was pregnant at the Golden Globes. 3 ,000 miles away. And it's just like, gamut of emotions day for him. He's throwing a Shakir, Brandon Cooks, who wasn't playing for anyone, Gabe Davis, who they picked up, who got hurt again, Coleman, who they benched twice, the two white tight ends, a couple running backs. Shavers, right. He had seven incompletions and nine guys caught passes from him. You should not have less incompletions than receivers. Right. Oh, interesting. It was a face of the league game from our guy Josh. And And I'm watching the whole game going, God damn it, why do I have Trevor Lawrence against Josh Allen?

1:00:15And I had the whole week to think about it, and I knew it, and I walked into it, and I was just like, ah. But again, one stupid play. And that's, I guess, the difference, right? In the end, one team had Josh Allen, and the other one didn't. Although they both had Josh Allen. The other one didn't play quarterback, though. Yeah, the other one had a Heinz Allen. So they have a Josh Allen. I think the Mahomes-Philly game last year really screwed me up because I couldn't think of a single reason to pick KC other than Mahomes. I'm like, I'm just not going against Mahomes. So then you go into this game, I'm not doing that again, where the only reason I can think of picking one team is the quarterback.

1:00:50And yet that was the reason they won. But didn't you think they were running? They were doing just what they needed to do. They had rushing yard. I know you were killing the offensive play calling because they didn't go as much to Etienne and Tootin as much as they should have. but it's one play. It's that fourth and one where like Lawrence goes and he launches and his shin hits the ground or something. I don't know. His knee hits. I don't know how it happened. They score there. It's what? 14-3? And then like, then Josh Allen's like a little against the ropes. That's what you needed to happen.

1:01:24Well, they get, they had a terrible pick in the first half. Yep. By Lawrence. Just an awful old school, terrible Trevor Lawrence throw where like red zone September. like let's go to Jacksonville Trevor Lawrence wants this one back so we have that we have the fourth and two inside the ten which is there for some reason as he dives he needs the ground they get a fumble on a kickoff and yet nothing was going right for them I wrote down their running backs were eight for 99 in the first two hours rushing eight carries for 99 yards and they're just force fading Lawrence and it was to the point where it's like, do they want this guy to be the hero of the game or something?

1:02:06Like, what's the game plan? Just run the Buffalo. Buffalo can't stop the run. What are you guys doing? And then the run will set up the play action. And it just, it took them too long to get going. So I think it's tough, Bill, but no, that, I mean, that's their, that's their offense though. Like they mix it up and don't forget like Lawrence at that point, at that point was averaging seven yards of carry himself. Right. Yeah. And I'm all for like, Oh, he just threw an interception. Let's run the ball a little bit. but it was late first quarter. You can't, you got to build that confidence back a little bit.

1:02:35And I felt he, look, it was their defense that needed to step up at the end. Right? Like he got them ahead in the fourth quarter with a few minutes left. We all knew, we all knew it was too much. No, it was the last two drives. Buffalo drove the last two, right? Two touchdown drives in the fourth quarter to end the game on the road in Jacksonville. Yep. That was it. Stop them. That's it. I thought Lawrence was bad. And the kick missed. That was a bad miss. from the guy who makes them from Boca Raton. Little. Yeah, Little Cam Little. Oh my God, Nance really... They were both jinxing it. He's like, this guy can make it from 80.

1:03:13And then of course he comes out. When they're at their own 15, they're like, bring them out for this. Lawrence was 18 for 30 for 207 and two picks. I actually kept track the entire game of balls that he threw that hit Buffalo hands. How many? Love жиз funky 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Eight. What? Eight. I'm telling you. I've marked all of them down. Eight times a Buffalo defender hit a Lawrence pass with their hand. Oh, the tip passes. Is it talking tip passes? Tip passes or the guy had a chance to pick it. The last play when they actually got the interception, two guys hit that. The guy tipped it.

1:03:54Another guy caught it. Right. But it was just, he was just throwing it around. And he reverted back to September Trevor Lawrence. I thought that guy was dead after the Denver game. I thought this was the new Trevor Lawrence. Was that? Yeah. He wasn't good enough. Buffalo doesn't have a good defense. Come on. No, it's true. It's true, but it was very good today. It really was. Rousseau and Shaq Thompson was excellent. I think they did have like eight or nine pass deflections. I did write that down. And the other thing that they turned around on the Bills was time of possession. It was like 34-26 Buffalo.

1:04:27It's like, nah, they're not going to win that game. That's not, we knew they wouldn't win with that game plan. So they had, Buffalo has a chance to go up three. They get that crazy tush-push, or as Nance called it, the push-tush. Right. Did you hear that one? Yeah, yeah, push-tush. Push-tush. No relation to pass rush from Chris Collinsworth. And Allen gets tackled, basically they decide he's down at the one. There's a minute, two left. Right. Jacksonville has no timeouts. and the move is kind of sneak but don't do what Drake made it earlier this year where you don't try to score. Alan's like, fuck it.

1:05:06He goes right in. There's a minute two left and they're up three and it felt like a huge mistake. Yeah. I'm always for like ramming in but in this case, like a minute with that kicker who can kick 70 yarders, I'm like killing the play, right? But what does the play look like? So is it a kneel down? Because you don't want to start the second play from the three and then you get a false start. He snaps it and he just kind of sneaks, but he just kind of goes down. Because they were going to let him score anyway. So he probably could have just gone forward or right where he was. They had 62 seconds left.

1:05:37They got the ball at like the 25. And their kicker can kick a field goal from the 50. So they needed to go in 62 seconds, 25 yards. So what's the first play? Let's throw it right over the middle to a guy who's covered by two people. Even if he catches it, it's a 10-yard play. he gets tackled. 22 seconds come off the clock. How is that your first play? I just thought, Liam Cohen, is there something about first year, first time coaches in a playoff game again with somebody who immediately is losing the QB matchup? Maybe that's some sort of bad formula. Let's ask our producer. I'll pull that up and we're going to need that in 30 seconds.

1:06:19Come back with us. I got an email from a reader, a listener, Pierre in Louisiana after this game. He said, think you're overthinking the picks. Fundamentally, hobbyist gambling should simply be about having fun. You agree with this? Wait, what? Hobbyist gambling should simply be about having fun when you gamble. He's saying it should be fun. He needed to see you yesterday during the Rams game. It's not been fun. I'm trying to think when was the last time it was fun. This is not where a lot of hot craps table. This is every man for himself. I think the most fun I ever had was Ravens-Giants Super Bowl in January, February 2001, whatever that was.

1:07:02We didn't even know each other yet. We separately cleaned up. I hate everything in that game. Super Bowl's weird for me. I don't have fun because I'm so upset this season's over. You have too many bets. So Pierre says, betting against Josh Allen isn't fun. Betting on Trevor Lawrence isn't fun. Maybe add fun to the playoff gambling manifesto. So he sent this email and then I watched the Eagles Niners game and I'm like, I'm not having fun with my pick here either. I wish I had the Niners. It would have been more fun to have the Nobody Believes Those Niners. So round two, I might just go for fun.

1:07:39Because Pierre said so? Yeah, Pierre in Louisiana thinks we should have more fun with gambling. Buddhist or something? Pierre, thanks, but we know we got this, man. Don't ever email us again. I have to find this picture I took of you. I hope this. Oh, no. This is Sal and Shakey's. You son of a bitch. As our three friends are talking about American history and the Rams are falling apart and Sal is just sinking backwards into his chair. That was yesterday. See, that looks like gambling wasn't fun. No, no, no. That was one of the three hours that it wasn't fun. It's 27-24 with 2.42 left. And I think Hanch and Damoshek and Tony were in 1776 at that point, like breaking down post, post tea party.

1:08:25Right. I'm glad you showed because I wasn't going to do this, but now that you did, I have a picture of you singing in excess to your wife here. Now I don't, I don't have, I don't, I don't have. Surprise birthday party. Surprise birthday party. I was a karaoke surprise. I don't know if that's going to be a win or loss for me. if that ever ends up online. You're turning very red. It looks like you have makeup now. This is good. This is all right. What you need? What you need? What was it? What did you sing to her? I really thought you were going to have the video. I was terrified. I should have.

1:09:00I knew. Really? Yeah, you've had too good a day. You know what I do have, though? I have video footage of me watching the Eagles game in the sauna. I got that one for you today. Yeah. I knew that would annoy you. what does it matter with you you wore a shirt also bill was a shirt in the sauna i wore a shirt in the sauna i did uh second half jags bills on the treadmill going three nine walking and four o during commercials and the game flew by because i just couldn't believe the jags were blowing it and then sauna after and then finished it off with some hot water and honey what a guy things are off the rails in 2026 did you see me eating the pizza and pulling the cheese off I know I was proud of myself most disgraceful patron of Shakey's good job so we had five games four of them were awesome the Pats Chargers game was not awesome although I had a great time and I was excited for my dad and now we have Steelers Texans tomorrow which the line is settled at three it seems like right I've seen it at three, yeah.

1:10:10I don't think it's moving. What's three and a half? What I watched this weekend made me even more convinced that the Steelers are the bet tomorrow. Because the... I think it's the same thing as the Chargers. I don't think they're going to be able to block. Oh, interesting. The Texans. So as good as their defense is, I think it's worse when you have the offense that can't block and you're on the road in a crowd like that. I think that would be my takeaway. I thought my thing was there are three fraudulent teams in the playoffs right now, in my opinion. All different levels are fraudulent. I said the Panthers, I thought the Bears a little bit, and I thought the Steelers.

1:10:45And the two of them played tough, and I think the Steelers also will. Oh, man. If Aaron Rodgers goes to New England, come on. It's another win for you. So they beat the Pats in week three in a game where the Pats had five turnovers, including Ramondre fumbling as he's about to score. We also had the one yesterday in the Bears game, the Christian Watson helicopter play where he fumbled on the half-inch line. Just feels like anything full speed at the half-yard line is going to go badly for somebody. You just don't know. Yeah. I don't know what it is about the half-yard. They got it. They did. That was a bad Bears moment, too, because it didn't go out of bounds somehow, and the Packers recovered.

1:11:31They didn't score because they had to place it at the one. but eventually they did. See, I know we led with that. I still can't get over that game. That was the, the Packers were the right pick in that game. I know. They just were. That was a ridiculous Bears win. All right. So we're going to, here's the plan for us. We're going to do guess the lines for the games that we have, which are three games. Did you see the times? This is news to me. Oh, do we have a schedule? What is it? Can I make guesses? Can I guess? Can I guess the schedule? Yeah. Okay. I'm going to guess Broncos-Bills is the first game on Saturday?

1:12:11If Fandle listed it correctly, you're right. Yes. Okay. I'm going to guess Seahawks-49ers Saturday night? Yeah. Are you looking at this? No, I'm guessing. Yes. Patriots-whoever on Sunday afternoon, early Sunday, because that has to be the Monday night team needs enough days, right? Well, the Monday night team needs enough days, so the Patriots are definitely playing Sunday. Patriots hosting somebody. And then Rams-Bears Sunday night? They have Rams-Bears day, which means we would do this again after your team plays. No, please no. Really? Let me make sure. Is it a Fox thing? Let me see. It must be a Fox thing.

1:12:58Fox must get the early game on Sunday. They must get their picks. I hope this isn't right. I mean, this is what's on. Another Pats game? I mean, I love Netflix. If it means we follow a Pats playoff game every week, this is a good streak for us. Yeah. Yeah. No, this is a good streak for you. Good for me. I think they would have put you Saturday night if they knew Rodgers was playing, for sure. I think they want Rodgers in a night game if they're able to do so. But there's no guarantee. Pats-Houston is almost like a Shakey's round two game. Right, right, right. Could be ugly like the one today. All right, so a quick backstory for any new watchers we have here.

1:13:38Sal and I have been playing Guess the Lions. It was first, who'd you start the game with? My buddy Darren. The parlay kid. Yeah, yeah. He used to hide in a closet so his girlfriend, now wife, couldn't hear us guessing lines because it was frowned upon back then. And now we're on Netflix doing it. So you have the schedule. I start work for Jimmy Kimmel Live. We start doing it. It's... I show up like mid-November 2002. The show hasn't started yet. We're sitting next to each other. Rest of 2002 through the playoffs. You're like, let's play Guest Alliance. We start doing it. Then the next year we do it at work.

1:14:13Then I leave JK. We start doing it on the phone. We do it on the phone for like three years. Then when I get a podcast at ESPN, it becomes the Monday pod. And we've been doing it ever since. This is, I think, our 19th year. 19th year. Doing Guest Alliance. So what happens is we guess the line. Whoever's closer wins it. And I've won all 19 years for the new people. No, stop it. I won last year. You're right. You jerk. You won last year. I've won more than last year. Yeah, no. I'm probably up like 10-7 lifetime. I know. Well, when you're cheating, when you're allowed to swat the quarterback in the helmet, then what are we going to do?

1:14:48All right. So we're going to guess the line. So we're going to say the first game is Broncos-Bills in Denver. That's what it appears to be. Okay. I've not seen the lines. Okay. I think the Broncos are going to be favored. And I think it's in the Tic Tac Zone, which we call for anything minus 1.5. And I'm going to say Broncos. Because Tic Tac Zone, one and a half calories. Yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Broncos minus 1.5 at home against Denver. All right, against Buffalo. Oh, all right. So I get this one because I said Buffalo minus 1.5, and it is Buffalo minus 1.5. Okay. Let's talk about this. Well, they power rated them exactly the same as the Jaguars, right?

1:15:31But aren't the Broncos better than the Jaguars? The Broncos are the one seed. Yeah. They're the one seed. They won 14-3. They're home. They also. And Josh Allen got the kick. She kicked out of them this week. Right. They also have trouble eclipsing 13 points a lot of times. So I think they're factoring that in. And who's betting Denver, right? I'm going to make my first Netflix hardcore prediction. The Broncos will be favored by next Saturday. This will be Broncos by one and a half on Saturday. Alright. I think this is exactly what happened in that Jags game. The line moved along, the line moved along, and then it flipped.

1:16:13That's my prediction. Interesting. Let me just make sure these are... These things flip all so much. We take a teaser. right we add six points to whoever the underdog is getting one and a half well that doesn't seem to work all the time well the ones the ones today in real life that worked we can't do these in ringer 107 but all the all the 10 point 13 point teases hit right basically the charger unless you had the chargers in one of them any other version of any game that you wanted to tease i know even the eagles the eagles was it ended at minus five and a half ten point tees which i did brought it to plus four and a half and it covered.

1:16:52They lost by four. Missed extra point. Yeah. Big. Very nice. All right. So Saturday night is Seahawks 49ers. Mm-hmm. I had trouble with this one. I wanted to go lower and then I was starting to think about where they would have to get it to to make people bet on the 49ers that nobody believes in us team two weeks in a row. And it's in Seattle and Seattle's had the week off. I have Seahawks minus seven. Okay. I had Seahawks minus six. I thought that was division rivalry. They'll chuck a point their way. It's seven and a half, so you get that. Damn. And you love Seattle. I'm just telling you now, they'll be in a parlay or a tease for me.

1:17:40Really? Yeah. I thought they should have won the last time they played by 25 points. That 13-3 game, that should have been like 30-3. Darnold wasn't good enough. This is the perfect team. If they can get by, they have three playoff games with Darnold potentially, right? So you get through this game where you're not playing a team that has a really good defense. Then next round would be Rams versus Bears. Potentially they could play the Bears. It would have a good defense either. Although they did stop the run in the second half. They might be able to get to the Super Bowl without ever seeing Darnold under distress in any way.

1:18:16Right. Right. If you could guarantee me there's not going to be rust on this Seattle team, having an awful week, I would love them. I would love it because San Francisco's luck has to run out. All right. So then Sunday, we can't guess Patriots. The times haven't been announced, but the days are right. Bills, Broncos, and 49ers, Seahawks. Sunday, we can't guess the Pats game, but we do have good news. I'm going to do another podcast tomorrow on Monday night and you're just going to be the top of it. We're going to film 25 minutes at the top. That's going to be on my pod. I have another guest after.

1:18:54So we're going to guest the line for that. Talk about the Steelers-Texans. No makeup again? Let me know now. We're just going all natural. Okay. Yeah. Like John Mulaney, covered in makeup. I saw his show. Yeah. Some of the other podcasts that are coming in. We have a bunch of Ringer podcasts coming tomorrow that will also be available on Spotify as well on video. No makeup? Yeah. Some of the people we have will wear makeup. I'm trying to set the tone. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just be you. I love it. Don't worry about what you look like in 4K and people counting your whiskers.

1:19:33So we can't guess Pats, but we can guess Rams, Bears. Yeah.

1:19:41I had two lines that are within a half point of each other. And I went back and forth and I went back and forth and went back and forth. This game's in Chicago. You know the Bears are going to be losing at halftime. Rams minus two and a half is my guess. All right. I said four. I was like, Vegas, the books, Vandals, I'm going to fall for this. It's three and a half. I was a little high, but I was closer. Oh, so you won. So you're up 2-1 for the week. 2-1. So you could tie tomorrow. I could tie tomorrow. Big day to check in if you want. Wait a second. So Packers, Bears, Packers were 1-1.5. Mm-hmm.

1:20:21Rams, two points more in Chicago after a game that Chicago looked awesome and felt like there's some mojo going now. That's weird. That seems too high to me. They were 10-1 at Carolina. and obviously they didn't cover that. They didn't come close to covering that, but I think they just took a touchdown off of that and said, let's see what the Rams could do. I think that, don't you think that ends at three? Yeah, I mean, the Rams are the perfect team to go up 25 points on the Bears and blow it in the fourth quarter. Perfect. Outdoors, night game, something goofy happening. Caleb, it's funny, Caleb and Drake May are the same where I'm not really sure what to expect from them for the first hour and a half of the game because they're young.

1:21:08Yeah. But you also feel like they're never out of any game and that at any point, they could just make an unbelievable play. Right. But that play that May made to Hunter Henry was similar to the Caleb play on that fourth and eight. Like the Caleb throw was crazier and he ended up up in the air after he threw it. But it was same kind of like, they just saw it. The throw had to be perfect. You have to have like a fucking great arm. You have to be able to throw on the move. And those guys are, too, the best at it. Yeah. Caleb did the Jordan jump man thing, too, right? Yeah. That was no accident. Yeah.

1:21:43I think this will be, when you think like Mahomes goes down, Burrow doesn't make the playoffs. Everyone's already talked about this. But it does feel like a little bit of a changing of the guard, even though those guys aren't that old. It does feel like there's a new generation. May and Caleb, there's something happening. and then maybe Stroud tomorrow if he can have a good game against Pittsburgh. That was a great class. And yeah, it paid dividends. And after watching... Daniel's last year. Yeah. We watched so many bad quarterbacks in that 1 p.m. slot from weeks one through 18. We're going to have Mendoza and a bender in Vegas.

1:22:17Maybe he'll be the next one. Goes to Vegas, gets completely corrupted within five minutes. I am in, not only in the fantasy league with you, but I'm in this league that I've been in with my high school buddies and their college buddies since 1990. Oh, yeah, what is this? Playoff counts? It goes all the way through. Get to protect up to six guys on your fantasy team. And then we have a draft. And I had the first pick in the draft because I won. And I protected Drake May and Parker Washington and Jacob. I didn't really have good keepers, but I had the first pick. So I took Puka. And then I took Puka over Josh Allen.

1:22:57and my thought was like I have Parker Washington I think the Jags are going to beat the Bills I'm hoping Trevor Lawrence is going to be there when it comes there's four teams in the playoff draft so one, two, three, four, I have five like I'm really hoping Trevor Lawrence is there at five Trevor Lawrence is there at five now I take him then I got ETN in the ninth so now I have three Jags I have Drake May I have it all set up and I had 195 points with all my guys today but I lost like six of them and I'm probably going to lose to our friend Steve, who still has Allen, Darnold, and Stafford. Oh, boy.

1:23:33And Cook, and Harvey, and Kenneth Walker, and Diggs. But this league's great. I don't know why people don't do this idea. It's just more fantasy. I get five more weeks. I guess so. Why does fantasy have to end after 16 weeks? I'm going 22. I should end after three weeks, to be honest with you. I don't know. Yeah. No, that's pretty cool. You know what's ironic about this, though? Remember when we did the Ringer draft? You hated the Jaguars. You're like, I'm not drafting a Jaguar. Well, I hated Trevor Lawrence, and now he's rekindled my hatred for him because he let me down today. You made that proclamation.

1:24:06You're like, he's going to be my most hated player in the league if he loses this game. Yeah. I saw there was an onion thing today about, or this week, about a guy spends 3 ,000 hours on his fantasy team this year, wins$30 for second place. And I was like, that hit? Close to hell. Exactly it. Okay, so we're going to do we always do Parent Corner which is, how long have you been doing Parent Corner? I can't remember. When did we start that? Before we even had kids which people thought it was weird at the time. No, I mean, I guess more than a decade, right? At least. Well, at one point my young son was the star of Parent Corner.

1:24:44Yeah. For like three, four years in a row. Just was killing it. That was untouchable. Well, now he's 18. He's like, I will kill you in your sleep if you do any sort of paracord about me. Do not mention my girlfriend. I will put you in a home on a moment's notice. He's just really, really terrified me. A dozen years ago, you were talking about how he did all the finishing moves on his pillow and everything. And then he's like, you know what, Pops, I'm going to do those for real on you if you mention me once now. Oh, when he was a kid, we would do the ones about when he would have the, he would have the diaper and he would try to do the stink face on my wife when he had a gross diaper when he was like two.

1:25:22Yeah. Yeah. Now he's like, leave me at a parent corner. Um, it's a responsible kid. He's going to college next year. He's got a car. He's got a girlfriend. It's a nice kid. Doesn't want to be in parent corner anymore. Um, but you have fortunately for us, younger kids that could still be in parent corner. So you go first. I have a 12 year old. I have a junior in high school and a junior in colleges as you do. Um, well, so about an hour ago, my son Harrison snagged a fly ball to end the game and the South Bay Blue defeated OC Crush to win another fake gold ring. So we'll take it. I think they're coming home now.

1:25:57Nice. Congrats. You watched that on your phone or during the podcast? Yeah. No, no, no. That was Golden Globes. That was Patriots and it was South Bay Blue watching that. But my other son goes to Oregon. Big game came up against Indiana and as he left for school we went to drive back up to Oregon last week. I grabbed his shoulders and I said, dude, bring us back a championship. And then he informed me that he doesn't play for the team. He just watches on TV. Just what you want him to root for a championship. Yeah. So, but, you know, I said to him, I was like, look, if they beat Indiana, we'll figure something out.

1:26:39Because you have to send the kid, right? If they make the championship. So now they're losing by like 700 points in the third quarter. And I text him And I figured for sure he would think this is a joke. I was like, this is such a bummer. I got two tickets on the 50-yard line, like 20 yards up for you and Cookie. I had you at the Fontainebleau, and I got somehow there's a jet going there, and I was able to get you on there. And he was like, son of a bitch. He's like so upset. I was like, now what do I do here? Do I tell him I'm joking around or let him think I'm father of the year or a decade or the century.

1:27:20But there's a risk in it too, because if Oregon comes back, I have to now come through on this. So now I'm looking at the Oregon live line. I'm like, all right, I can get 70 to one. So if I put$500 on Oregon, I'll get 35 grand and I'll be covered for this thing that I promised him. Let me just tell him I was kidding. And so I told him I was kidding. How'd that go? Not very good. So now I'm like the worst father. I went from best to worst. But anyway, don't don't promise things. Don't joke with your kids, I think is the moral. Does your wife still cry when he goes back to college? I think she goes in a different room and cries.

1:27:57She knows not to do it in front of me because I'll make fun of her. Oh, she like sneak cries? Yeah, yeah. But she was the one who said, go away. She's like, you have to go away. Like he could have gone local. It's plenty of, you know, Cal schools out here. Plenty of California, like to drive away. She's like, you have to go. You have to live your life. You have to see what it's like to be away and regretted it. Like, I don't think he was, the asphalt was kicking back when he drove away and she was upset. My Parent Corner is about my mom, who I needed my mom. I had a birthday party, a surprise birthday party for my wife.

1:28:28But ironically, your wife was there. That's right. Not a lot of people, but I had to get my wife out of my house because we had to set up the house. And her friends wanted to do this mafia theme. And they wanted to dress up. It was like a mob lives theme and they were all dressing like Gumars and all. Your wife did a very good Goodfellas, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. She was, I think had been practicing. She had a great time. Yeah. But I had to get my, my wife out of the house five o 'clock on Friday. So we had to go to my mom's. I had to get my mom involved. So I came up with this whole thing about my friend, Dave is a, is one of the producers on jury duty.

1:29:09and it was like we're gonna it's in a jury duty season two premiere and it's a mafia theme so we have to dress up like we're mafia people and we're going and we got to bring my mom because she's 100 percent italian so we're gonna bring my we have to go to my mom's house we'll have a glass of wine with her then we'll drive back and it's a paramount and my wife just falls for hook line and sinker i have a couple of my friends texting us like are you going you going this week i heard it's going It's gonna be really fun. So now the whole day she's dressing, getting what she's gonna wear, her outfit, all that.

1:29:44She goes to buy something on Friday, stops at my mom's house on the way home. And it's like two o 'clock. And my mom, who like anytime anyone comes over, she's just ready to, the wine comes out. So I noticed, I check on Life360 and it's like 2.35 and my wife is at my mom's and I'm like, oh no. Because, you know, this is a surprise party, a lot of boozing. Yeah. Like, you definitely don't want to start early. Everyone's arriving what time? 6.30. Okay. You got a couple of hours. So I FaceTime my wife. She doesn't answer. I call my mom. She's like, oh, yeah, we're here. We just having some wine. And I'm like, so I text my mom.

1:30:30I'm like, what are you doing? You're supposed to be like the decoy. Like you're right. So finally get her out. She comes back. We end up, we're on time. We go, five o 'clock, go to my mom's. My mom is nervous. She's going to screw it up. Come back, pretend that I forgot my key because I used my phone for my car. We got to stop by the house to get my key. We go in. Surprise, it works. How long do you think my mom stayed? Oh, I was going to ask you this, but I thought it would sound insensitive. It's like 14 of my wife's friends. My mom's already had, we had a glass of wine. All these people are there's going to be food, whole thing.

1:31:12How long did she stay? Over, under, I'll give you over, under 29.5 minutes. I'm going to say she's still there. No, I'm going to, well, I mean, the way you're phrasing this, it has to be over. The way, right? I mean. Nine minutes. Oh, wow. Hugs everybody, says, and then she's like, I got to go. And she's calling an Uber. No, I'm kidding. Wow. And I'm like, why aren't you going to stay? We're having food. No, no, no. He said, no, no, no, you guys. And does the you guys thing. Mm-hmm. And is gone. Wow. And it was just like, what? Our parents just get weird. Yeah. Like, there's some sort of, I don't know what the year is, but it's definitely going to happen to us, right?

1:31:55Well, all right. I hope we're still on Netflix at that point. Yeah, we will be. Let me defend her here, though. You just called her and told her, don't forget, you're a decoy. Just be a decoy, lady. No, I wanted her to come, though. Get out of my house, decoy. I don't know. It's a little bit... No? I don't know. She said the whole week. She kept thinking she was going to screw it up. But, um... I...

1:32:22Have you talked to her about her since? Or you just, like, didn't follow her? Well, I texted tonight. Because, you know, I told her about the Golden Globes thing. Right. And what she knew was on. And she said, I didn't watch... I refuse to watch CBS. Maybe I'll see it online. CBS is canceled in my house. She's at that age. Yeah. Yeah. She hates Romo. She's one of the people that hates Romo for no reason. She might not have liked the Romo-Nance combo. But anyway, so that's it. Our parents are going, I'm sure you have 20 stories about it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I just can't figure them out anymore.

1:32:57It's like when they were talking about the cover three defense, the Panthers, when it was like, are they going to blitz? Are they going to go back? and Stafford has to read. That's how I feel about my mom all the time. Right. Is she blitzing? Is she going back and cover three? Like, what is she going to do? I just can't get a handle on it. That's good. Oh, yeah. That's, listen, everyone's approaching 80. I think you just start to, you just wander a little. My father's big thing is dry runs. So if there's a party in like March and he's like, what's the address? He'll go there like tomorrow and like dry, even if it's an hour, just to get the lay of the land.

1:33:31Like he's like a White House bodyguard to check out their assassination angles? I scoped it out. It's like, all right, you're not a scout on Jimmy Kimmel Live. You're scouting locations for a hidden camera. Oh my God. What are you doing? Yeah. I can't wait for us to get this nuts. I feel like we're still going to be gambling on football. I don't know what else is going to happen. Listen, you're wearing a shirt and a sauna and you swore off pizza. You're there. Wearing a hoodie on Netflix, first ever Netflix pod. So every Sunday night, we're going to be live during football season. Yeah. And then after that, you go away.

1:34:03You always come back on my pod. You're still on the Ringer Gambling Show. And then I'm going to keep going on Sunday nights live here. And if you want to see more of Sal, you can see him on the Ringer Gambling Podcast, which how did we do on the show this week? Like, okay, happy season. We did good on the pregame show. We had one Saturday and Sunday. We have one next Saturday and Sunday. I did all right. Pook and Nakula, by the way. I don't even think we mentioned them that much except for getting hit by... I mean, it's a freebie touchdown. And then you just wait for the second one. I got plus 600 on two touchdowns.

1:34:32And Booty, your guy Booty is my favorite Patriot of all time. Plus 240 on 50 plus yards. I don't know if you saw, he penned like this article about, you know, how he was a gambler. He mentions FanDuel and everything. I was like, great. This is one of us. And he's going to be on the Ringer pregame show with us like three years. The, he, one of the things I liked about that article was he talked for a long time about how special Drake May was. He did? And I read all content where people talk about how special Drake may be. Hopefully he can bounce back next week. All right, that's it. First Netflix podcast in the book.

1:35:07A bunch of Ringer podcasts coming on here tomorrow along with some other ones. But I will be back with you tomorrow night right after. We're not going live tomorrow night, but with the next podcast you'll see with us, we'll be talking about Steelers-Texans. What's your final prediction for that one? Steelers win the game. more nonsense from the ayahuasca god. One more week of him. That's it. I think you're probably right on that. Thanks to Gahal. Thanks to Jack Wilson. Thanks to Eduardo. Thanks to Chris. Yeah. Thanks to everybody at Netflix who wanted to have us bring our video over here. It's been a been a true pleasure.

1:35:44Good to see you, Sal. Good job by you. Good job by you, buddy.

1:35:55Have a few years with them.

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