Opposites Attract

24 Jun 2026 · 43 min · 15 chapters

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In short

The Buckleys banter about relationship “opposites,” phone-call rudeness, and food/logic debates (hot dog vs sandwich; cereal vs soup; straw holes; tomato as fruit; ketchup as smoothie). They also read listener emails: weekend culture clashes (horror films/PS2 vs walks/art gallery), comedy-quote “brain rot,” a partner’s labor story where the man had a medical crisis, and a saxophone “sacrilege” prank. They finish with “Buck in the Day” about 90s McDonald’s birthday parties and drive-thru rituals.

Guests (listener correspondents)

Jodie (film nerd/gamer vs outdoorsy art-gallery husband); Spencer (comedy fan quoting shows constantly); Lewis (partner in labour; he had 15 hours of his own medical crisis); Matt (saxophone lesson backstory); Adam (theory about McDonald’s birthday parties).

Key claims

Opposites attract via compromise; noticing small annoyances can worsen them; hot dogs are technically sandwiches by dictionary definition; McDonald’s smells trigger childhood memories.

Notable examples

“How many poppadoms? … fab” (Alan Partridge); “hello 444” landline scam-avoidance; C-section decision while partner screams “Bloody Mary.”

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Chapters

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Communicating in Relationships

1:47 to 7:48

A comedic discussion about phone calls and communication habits.

“And don't forget to follow the show and subscribe.”

The Great Food Debate

7:48 to 13:32

Exploring whether a hot dog is a sandwich and other food-related questions.

“This is from Sam, who says, hey, Buckleys.”

Listener Engagement

13:32 to 13:48

Encouraging listeners to share their opinions on the hot dog debate.

“This is the tough stuff that we're getting involved with.”

Opposites Attract: Listener Email

13:48 to 14:00

Reading a listener's email about differing weekend plans with a partner.

“I've got a little message here, Claire, from Jodie.”

Opposites Attract in Relationships

14:15 to 18:12

Jodie shares her weekend plans dilemma with her outdoorsy husband, discussing how opposites attract and the importance of compromise in relationships.

“Jodie says, I'm a film nerd and a bit of a gamer.”

Navigating Differences

18:12 to 19:39

The hosts discuss the necessity of having partners who challenge each other and how these differences can enrich life.

“While he's trying to talk about Rembrandt or something and you go, do you know what?”

Daily Life and Parenting

19:39 to 21:01

The conversation shifts to parenting, the balance of personal time, and how life changes after having children.

“Just wait until you have kids, and then neither are you will get to do what you want to do.”

Humor in Everyday Situations

21:01 to 22:31

Spencer shares a humorous anecdote about habits formed in relationships and how they affect daily interactions.

“Yeah, you like to point things out about what I'm doing wrong.”

The Challenges of Labor

22:31 to 26:58

Lewis recounts a comical yet relatable story about his experience in the delivery room during his partner's labor.

“which never happens no So here's an example for you.”

Anticipating Labor: A Personal Story

28:00 to 29:59

The hosts share a humorous and relatable story about labor and unexpected events.

“Oh, well, the doctor looked worried when he came in.”
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Musical Lessons and Parent Pressure

30:00 to 33:18

A listener's story about learning an instrument leads to a discussion on parental pressure.

“Yeah, James, the most panicked I've ever seen James.”

Nostalgia for McDonald's Birthday Parties

33:19 to 35:44

The hosts reminisce about childhood birthday parties at McDonald's and their significance.

“You don't think about it You've got trophies and stuff And things And ribbons I've got ribbons I've got loads of trophies Right Well, there you go.”

The McDonald's Experience: Dates and Memories

35:45 to 38:28

They discuss McDonald's as a social hub during their youth and its role in their lives.

“Did you have a McDonald's birthday party?”

McDonald's Nicknames and Final Thoughts

38:29 to 42:04

The hosts conclude with a light-hearted discussion about nicknames for McDonald's.

“And then I hand it to either you or one of the kids and I feel like that's safe because I've got to drive.”

The Appeal of Golden Arches

42:04 to 42:44

Discover the nostalgia and comfort associated with McDonald's Golden Arches.

“Because when you do see them on like a long journey, you think, ah.”
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Transcript

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0:00And then you'll be like, are you still there? And I'm like, aye, what, you phoned me?

0:05Clair Buckley:Is a hot dog a sandwich? No, absolutely not. Well, what about me? Do I look cool? No. Well, do I? No. Do I really look cool? Do I? Do I? Do I? Do I? Okay. Hello, fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa. Hello, fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa-fa.

0:33Clair Buckley:Alright, here we go. Your hair's looking very flat, Claire.

0:40He's so rude, doesn't he?

0:42Clair Buckley:I don't know what flat hair means. No, I know you don't. You were just going... Your hair's never been... Are you really having a go at my hair? No, I'm just... I just knew that would annoy you. I just said that two seconds before we started. I said, oh, my hair feels a bit flat today. I was trying to give it a zhuzh. do you know what else I've noticed go on I think I'm the only person under 70 who says zhuzh anymore I said that to you the other day don't I I say that a lot before I do anything I'm like let me just go and give myself a little zhuzh like who am I just say what's it what's it yeah grab the what's it from the side for me no well no in Scotland my nan used to say that in Scotland because you've pointed this out the hingy hingy the hingy majig on the hingy so I'm up on the hing yeah well I need the what's it from the draw.

1:31Clair Buckley:Anyway, here we go. Wow, that's a good start, isn't it? Powerful start to a podcast. Welcome to The Buckleys, the podcast where we sit down, have a chat, moan a bit, and invite you into our lives. This is a very special episode. This is. This is very exciting. Today's episode is brought to you by McDonald's. Before we get into it, we just want to remind you that you can get in touch with your stories and questions for us by emailing thebuckleys at platformmedia.uk or you can message us at thebuckleyspod on Instagram and TikTok. And don't forget to follow the show and subscribe. on Spotify or any of the other apps.

2:06Clair Buckley:If someone used another app, would that be a nick? What's a nick? Is you going like that and rattling your little gold bracelet? I've got a little gold bracelet, mate. That's a nick. I need to get some links taken off of it, but I haven't had time. This is a new edition for James. It breaks up my arms. I've told you about... James has got this thing where he thinks his arms are too long, so he needs to wear stuff on his wrists. Honestly, you are... Well, for years I've been wearing like little wooden bangles, right? Yeah. Also a neck. I feel like I'm... I just think I'm too old. You're moving into the gold.

2:43Clair Buckley:To the gentleman's gold Cuban chain. Which isn't real gold, by the way. We can tell. It's the brightest thing I've ever seen. No, but I do... I like that colour, that sort of Del Boy colour gold. Oh, we know you do, yeah. I do just like that. but it's it's too big it's gold plated yeah so I don't even know if I can get links taken anywhere Gold sprayed anyway Claire yes James how be you I'm alright got anything to moan about anything you want to whinge about now's the time anything you don't whinge about me enough these days I don't think no but it's like how often do people want to hear the same thing but this is it you know this podcast right do you know do you know the good thing about this podcast I'm interrupting you I'm about to say the same thing like you usually do yeah yeah people now know anyway like I don't need to tell people like when we first started doing these I would constantly tell people how annoying you were to me but people are like no we know Claire we get it no they go yeah we like that keep mentioning it alright well you've been irritating me then what have I done specifically I haven't done anything specific for a little while have I erm

3:57I don't think so.

3:58Clair Buckley:Do something you need to do, now that I've just thought about it. What? Just answer your phone once in a while. I do. To people that I want to talk to. Right, fine. That happened once the other day. I only call you if I need something. Like if it's... That is the most untrue statement you have ever made. I don't call you for no reason. Yes, you do. When? Every time you're in the car and you've got a bit of a drive, you'll call me and you'll be like, oh, I've got a bit of a drive, so I just thought I'd have a chat with you, Claire. Are you all right? What's going on? What are you doing? I'm like, you left 20 minutes ago.

4:33I'm still here.

4:34Clair Buckley:No, that's when I'm in the car for a couple of hours and I'm driving somewhere for work or something. Right, but the problem is, I'm on the road a lot at the moment. You don't say anything. Me and my moustache. You'll sit there in silence and then you'll be like, are you still there? And I'm like, I? What, you phoned me? I don't have anything to say. What do you want? And then the other day, when I managed to actually get you on the phone, I said, we came to the end of our conversation, and I went, all right, bye. And then the phone went dead, and I was like, oh, she must have just put the phone down.

5:09I'd never do that.

5:10Clair Buckley:I'd never do that. I don't care about saying goodbye on the telephone anyway, but I'd do it. I'd never do that. That bugs me, that. So I was like, bye. my phone was just like my phone must have dropped call must have dropped or whatever yeah anyway half a second later my phone starts ringing oh you don't say bye on the phone anymore no I don't like that I went I did say goodbye and you didn't believe me no because you didn't you just hung up you actually do you do that to me quite a lot actually sometimes I'm like right okay see you later and then it'll just boop boop and I'm like that rude rude Do you know what I like doing?

5:48Clair Buckley:You know when you're in the car and you're having a phone call? Yeah. And it's slightly more complicated to hang up in the car, isn't it? Because you're hands-free and stuff. Yeah, I suppose. And I'm never aware of where the button is exactly on the wheel. I always wait for you to hang up when I'm in the car. Yeah. And you do the same to me. Yeah. So I just leave it. Yeah. Yeah. And then I can hear you. For a little while, I can hear you just going about your day.

6:16Clair Buckley:never done that no not that you do that no i can hear like you'll be like oh god i make sure i am you're just sort of talking to yourself a little bit don't do that either but what you do is when you know that and you know i'm still listening oh i do it with the kids don't know if he's got the boys in the car as well you'll pretend to slag me off you're like she's so annoying and And then Harrison or General Joy And they'll be like yeah Your mum's so stupid isn't she She's so stupid And then you go Oh no we haven't hung up Oh no It's fun It's fun in the Buckley household Yeah it's hilarious It's good stuff I've not got much to moan about Really No Which is a shame Yeah Because this is where I like to air everything out On the old podcast I've got something to moan about right this second Do it It's boiling in here again Yeah it's really hot what are you trying to do to this wee Scottish lassie?

7:11Clair Buckley:It's all right, we'll work it out, we'll get there. He wasn't doing it. Look, that was a pretend, let me stand up as if I'm going to do something. We'll get one in the break. That's right, I'm the master of that. Just sort of going... And nothing's going on in the head. You're just pretending. Just looking... Anyway. Anyway. Right, Claire. We can't sit here all day whinging, unfortunately, because we've got a listener email here from someone who needs our help getting to the bottom of something. Okay. You know me. I like bottoms. This is from Sam, who says, hey, Buckleys. Oh, this is good. Sorry, I read ahead.

7:58Clair Buckley:I shouldn't have done that. I cheated. Listening to a previous episode, which sparked a debate. He talks about food a little bit. Okay. Now I'm thinking about food. You're dribbling. Yeah. Which sparked the debate about whether fish is meat. Oh, yeah. I think it is. I remember that. I think a lot of, from what I've seen in most of the comments. It's not a vegetable, is it? Most of the comments were saying, of course, it's a meat. Which, yeah, but I don't know. It's a good debate. I just like, I enjoy the debate. I feel like meat or fish is a thing. Yeah. Anyway, carry on. What's Sam saying? It reminded me of a debate we had at work, which turned out to be quite divisive.

8:35is a hot dog a sandwich no absolutely not no it's a hot dog right you don't think it's a sandwich

8:45Clair Buckley:no a what i did that i did that on purpose claire claire has told me about twice a year claire tells me how much it annoys her when people say sandwich it's a sandwich you bit on that right away but a lot of people do do that i was hoping to say that a few times before you went right you've got to stop absolutely not no um here's the difference though right yeah because i think americans call burgers burgers like the the beef burger that's a burger but if when we get a chicken burger americans call that a chicken sandwich no it's that's technically what we should call it as well, but we don't.

9:27Yeah. We call that a burger. Yeah. A sandwich for me is...

9:32Clair Buckley:Sliced bread. Yeah. Yeah, but a burger, that's a sandwich in America. And it is a sandwich. But it's not because it's... It is a sandwich. No, because it's buns. That's the cutoff for me. If it's buns, it's a burger. Don't like buns. No, I love buns. Pun.

9:55Clair Buckley:So baby got back, right? I got it. It just wasn't funny. No, but a filling in bread, that's the sandwich. I don't know for sure, but that's the definition of a sandwich. I think if someone looked up, we've got four people in front of us with laptops in front of them right now. If someone looked up the definition of a sandwich, it would be... Filling. slices of bread yeah or bread not even slices of bread bread with filling in between it the way I think of it stuff and I know this isn't right but the way I think of it stuff is if it's bread yes with meat especially cold that's a sandwich well whatever it's a filling you don't have to have meat you can have an egg sandwich well yeah whatever yeah yeah I guess you can have a chip sandwich yeah chip butter a hot dog's not a sandwich I don't know, man.

10:53Of course it's not. It's a hot dog.

10:55Clair Buckley:I don't know. It's, well, all right, if you make a sandwich out of a baguette. Yeah, that's a panini or a baguette sandwich. No, a panini's toasted. Well, that's a baguette. I wouldn't call that a sandwich. I'd call that a baguette. You wouldn't make a sandwich out of a baguette? Yes, but I wouldn't call it a sandwich. But it is a sandwich. I'd say I'm having a tuna baguette. Would you call a toasty a sandwich? That's a toasty. It's a toasted sandwich. Toasty is short for toasted sandwich. I know, but it's a toasty. It's not a sandwich. Yeah, but it's a toasted sandwich. Nah, not for me. I'm going to say that the hot dog is a sandwich.

11:31You're wrong. You're totally wrong.

11:34Clair Buckley:Wrong? Yes. Who did I wrong? Right, listen. Stop pointing at Scottishisms. Right, if you go by the dictionary's definition of a sandwich, it is a filling in between two or more slices of bread or a split roll. Since hot dogs fit this mould, they are technically sandwiches. No, no chance. Although many people argue that because the bun is connected at the bottom, the hot dog is actually closer to a taco. No, no. It's a hot dog. It's a thing of its own. All right, let me throw some other stuff here. Go on. Is cereal a soup? Don't be so stupid. I don't think it is either. No, obviously. It's cereal.

12:17Clair Buckley:Does a straw have one or two holes? One. One long hole. Yeah. Isn't that everything then? Move on. Move on. If you put lasagna on top of another lasagna, is it now just one big lasagna?

12:38Who wrote this? I don't know.

12:40Clair Buckley:Well, this was what, when we were talking about the hot dog thing, right? The big hot dog debate. The 2026 hot dog debate. Yeah, okay. I was thinking about technicalities. and you know tomato is a fruit right? Yes They say it's a fruit What's it? Something to do with the seeds on the inside? I think it's how it grows isn't it? There's seeds inside it which makes it a fruit Fruits have seeds inside them What are you going to say? You're going to say the thing I told Harrison What? What did you say to Harrison? The difference between common sense and knowledge Yeah Is that you know a tomato is a fruit but you don't you have the common sense no to put it in a fruit salad.

13:21Clair Buckley:But if tomorrow is a fruit, is ketchup a smoothie? No. Delicious smoothie. No. Hot dog. It's a hot dog. Sandwich or not, let us know in the old comments. Definitely not. I want to know what you guys think. This is the tough stuff that we're getting involved with. That was a bit of a... Do you need a break? That was a bit of an intense debate. Yeah. Let's have a little break and then I've got some listener emails here. Okay, great. Okie dokie. I've got a little message here, Claire, from Jodie. Jodie. I love her. Jodie says, hi James and flat hair.

14:06Clair Buckley:Your hair looks exactly the same as it always does. Hello Buckleys gang. I have a little score to settle with my husband. You know what that's like, don't you? Absolutely. And I'm wondering if you can help. Of course. Jodie says, I'm a film nerd and a bit of a gamer. That's just who I am. I feel like you're more on Jamesy. I feel like I'm going to be on your husband's side. My husband, on the other hand, works in an art gallery and is the outdoorsy type. Opposites attract, I suppose. When it gets to the weekend, after a long week at work, we sit down and discuss our plans for the weekend. That's when things get complicated.

14:41Clair Buckley:All I want to do is mooch about, pop on a horror film or dust off my old PS2 and play some classics. Okay. My husband sneers at the thought and would rather go for a walk, whatever that means. Oh, no. Jodie, I'm back with you, hen. His argument is that he'd like to soak up some culture. My argument is that video games and films are culture. Very good argument. Yeah. Would love your opinion on this. Our weekend plans depend on it. Jodie. Divorce. I think. No. Here's what I'm actually going to take A very grown up Some actual advice I'm going to have a grown up response to this I was doing the flippant stupid stuff Don't get divorced Obviously don't get divorced And I'm sure you guys are very much in love And should be together There's a bit of compromise Because I will say this There's two days to a weekend Opposites do attract Because I think we are Although we've got the same opinions on a lot of stuff We are very opposite people Yeah You are quite quiet You are quite reserved like when we're like in like public settings and stuff you can be quite quiet like if we're at a party and stuff i'll be the one that's a little bit more forward and whatever right and people do say that about us people who know us anyway however when we first got together my mum said that you bring out a nicer softer side of me yeah why are you looking so confused i was wondering what your mum was going to say about that's what she said yeah she said that you you brought a softer side out to me that she had never really seen before yeah and also i encouraged you to tell some people in some situations and like people um i'm quite i'm i'm a bit of a soft touch absolutely people can take the piss out of me quite easily yeah and i just want to i just want people to be happy all the time yes to your detriment yes so i encouraged you to that's been a struggle in the past in it burn it yeah anyway what i would say for jody is now it's not as serious as that but a little bit a little bit of right you know what this weekend we'll go for a walk we'll do something that you want to do yeah and then next weekend we're just chilling out just sit sat in front of tv with some video games joggers on chilling out watching a couple of horror films and you know what i'm not an outdoorsy person but since getting cosmo right cosmo needs a walk i never regret a walk i never want to do it even we get ready for like a huge big one on a Saturday or Sunday.

17:28I never want to do it, but I never regret it.

17:30Clair Buckley:No, it's always good. When I'm home. It's always good. And you're right. Listen, you guys are perfect for each other because Jodie, if it wasn't for your husband, you'd probably just be sat on a beanbag playing video games all day long for the rest of your life. Sounds like you're drawing some inspiration. Well, there we go. So he's sort of helping you out a little bit, saying, come on, let's go for a fucking walk. Do you know what I mean? And on the other side, he'd probably fall up his own arse in some art gallery somewhere.

18:00Clair Buckley:Trying to work out the meaning of something and philosophising and so you keep him sort of away from that edge. So you guys are perfect for each other. What? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, I love it. See, this is the seed I brought in you. While he's trying to talk about Rembrandt or something and you go, do you know what? Let's stick a bit of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater on. That brings him back down to earth. And she likes horror films. Yeah. Nothing better. Exactly. Nothing better. So listen, you guys are fine. What's her advice though? Should we tell her to give and take a little bit? Yeah, my advice is that life would be boring.

18:36Clair Buckley:If you don't have someone, if you don't, if you're not married to someone, oh God, this is going to sound like genuine advice. I don't want to do that. If you're not married to someone that challenges you and is interesting and try and make sure you think a bit differently. If it's just sort of always just doing, like say if I just married you and we just did whatever I wanted to do all the time, I don't think you grow as a person. I don't think you sort of. You do do what you want to do all the time. I don't. I'm always asking you to come and do stuff with me and you obviously not. No, no, no, I don't.

19:10Clair Buckley:Yeah, but occasionally I do. Right. But I've got someone there always going, don't do that. Have you thought about doing this? Yeah, sure. Try in. Close the door while you're having a poo, James. Have you ever thought about that? Yeah. I think these guys are great. I think they're made for each other. Whatever happens, it's going to be exciting and interesting. You get bored just doing whatever you want to do all the time. It's boring. Yeah. It's boring. You want someone to sort of... Just wait until you have kids, and then neither are you will get to do what you want to do. Well, that's basically it, yeah.

19:44You'll be doing what they need to do.

19:45Clair Buckley:Yeah, there's been so many times with Claire, when you've gone up to Scotland or something with the kids and I've stayed with the dog and I'm like, I've got that weekend in my diary. Yeah, you've said this. I'm like, oh, man, I can't wait. Oh, God, it's just going to be me and the dog. I get to do whatever I want to do for a whole weekend. And then you're gone for 20 minutes and I go, right, what is it? What else do I do now? Yeah, yeah, I know. I'm sat there, I'm going, before I had kids and stuff, I used to do things. What did we do? What were the things? I was always busy. I was always doing stuff.

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20:17Yeah.

20:17Clair Buckley:What did I do? I can't remember. No. And then I just call you. Exactly. In the car. You do do that. How are you getting on? Just seeing how you're doing. How far have you got now? Seven miles? Okay. I've got another message here from Spencer. Spencer. My wife recently called me out for something I hadn't noticed before, and now I can't stop noticing it. It's awful, that. When you notice something, you do. Sometimes it's best to sort of let things just run their course. Sometimes you get into little habits and you keep sort of doing something, making a noise or something like that. Sometimes it's best to don't draw attention to it.

20:59I feel like I'm quite bad for that with you, though. I always point stuff out to you.

21:02Clair Buckley:Yeah, you like to point things out about what I'm doing wrong. Spencer says, I'm a huge comedy fan and I have consumed all there is to see of British comedy. The problem is I've watched so much, it inevitably makes its way into my daily conversations. Put it this way. If anyone ever asks me what I do, it takes all my might not to say I'm a friend first, boss second, probably entertainer third. Is that David Brann? Yeah, you know it is. Even your character in The Inbetweeners has a starring role in many of my conversations. If I had a pound for every time someone tells me they're going out with a mate and I follow up with all friends, I'd be a very rich man.

21:43Clair Buckley:And that's just the family friendly stuff I say from your character's mouth. I don't want to make any assumptions, but I believe James will understand this plight and maybe even have a case of it himself. Oh, absolutely. You do. Spencer says, am I going crazy or is this normal? Spencer, I'm with you. You are going crazy. It's not normal. I do things all the time he just needs to come out and come and hang out with you and Joe, you and Joe Thomas you and Joe Thomas have literal conversations for so long and it's just turns into a whole episode of The Office yeah like you say something and then he'll reply with an office line and then you and I'll just keep going and going until one of us can't remember the next line which never happens no So here's an example for you.

22:37Clair Buckley:What's your name? Spencer. Here's an example for you, Spencer, where I am totally with you. In the early days when we first got together and I was ordering a curry and they were like, how many poppadoms? And I went, how many poppadoms? And you put your hand up with five fingers. And I just went, fab. Which is a really obscure partridge quote. And to be honest, I can't even remember off the top of my head right now when Partridge actually says it. I didn't even know that was a Partridge thing. I thought that was just you. Fair. Because you've been doing that for years. Well, then it became a thing.

23:15But it becomes a thing for you because I get dead embarrassed because I know there's a person on the other end of that phone.

23:21Clair Buckley:I know. And I'm like, why are you doing that? I don't consider that. I always forget. I'm like that with phones. I don't think there's an actual person on the end of it. Yeah. There's another thing that I like to do as well for all you bottom fans out there. So we never give our home number out. We've all got mobile phones, right? So if the landline calls, it's usually someone asking me if I've been in an accident recently or if I've got PPI payments or something like that. It's usually a scam. I know what you're going to do. so whenever the home phone rings and it could be anyone and sometimes I forget that the school has our home number yes absolutely but I but they only call that if our phones they'll try you first then me next and then they'll phone the home phone and can I say what you do so people know this is real because you do do this in the living room go on where the phone is yeah hello 444 I do I love it he does that all the time just pick up the phone hello 444 444 And I'm like Oh sorry Yes this is Mr Buckley Oh I'll be right there Yeah Harrison shit himself again Don't say that Oh Five Was from Alan Partridge's Countdown to World Cup 94 Was that Goal Eat my goal Shit That was liquid football.

24:56Do you think you're good at that?

24:58Clair Buckley:That is a goal. He must have a foot like a traction engine. Stop feeding on them. Enough. What about me? Do I look cool? No. Well, do I? No. Do I really look cool? Do I? Do I? Do I? Okay. Spencer, I've got absolutely no idea what you're talking about, mate. And I cannot relate at all. I want to hear from Spencer's wife. That's who I want to hear from. Because I get it, hen. I get it. I've got another one here. Oh, we've got a few emails. Here's one from Lewis who says, hello. In case you may be wondering, I'm the same guy who came up with the shit invention for the popping off bed sheet. Oh, yeah, Lewis.

25:46Clair Buckley:It wasn't a shit invention. It was. Well, Lewis says, anyway, as of writing, Father's Day is approaching or might have already been, depending on when you get this. I want to talk about the time when my partner was in labour and I required more medical attention than she did. Or did I? Lewis, you're a liability, mate. So 15 hours in total, we were sat in this room. Couldn't close my eyes Couldn't even breathe without being shouted at The decision was made This needed to be done by C-section Well that was it I got hot, I felt sick The room started spinning I had nurses, midwives, even a doctor at one point Surrounding me A midwife calling me down with a newspaper The nurse taking my observations And the doctor asking about my previous health issues Completely unaware Whilst I was going through my medical crisis my darling partner was screaming bloody mary and was preparing herself to be operated on all on her own no surprise i still haven't heard the end of it absolutely horrendous podcast piss poor five stars yeah you've not come through for it there lewis i'll be honest with you mate listen as a man there's not a lot um that guys can do in the old um birth situation right the delivery room Yeah.

27:14Clair Buckley:Unless I am a doctor or something like that, I can't really help out. Yeah. Yeah. The only thing you're supposed to do, Lewis, is not faint. No, just be supportive. You just got to go, oh, this will be all right. This will be okay. I was there. I remember I was talking so much bullshit. I think I spoke about it before. Which was the one that took forever? Judd. Judd was two days. Right. I was in labour. And it was like they kept going, you're not dilated enough. You've still got a while to go yet. And then you wouldn't see the doctor for about another two hours or something like that. Yeah. And during that two hours, I was just spent the whole time going, listen, when this doctor comes in next, I'm sure he's going to say, you are so dilated.

27:56Clair Buckley:Everything's going to be fine. This is going great. What are you worried about? Oh, well, the doctor looked worried when he came in. No, he was just, he was thinking about something else. And in my head, I'm going, oh, yeah, the fucking doctor did look a bit worried. I don't know what the fuck's going on here. This was just. I'm absolutely shitting myself but to you I was going next time our doctor comes in that baby's going to fly out don't you worry yeah this was Jude and then he would come in and it would be like yeah you're three centimetres and I was like I've already been here for a day what do you mean and I was going oh it's fine this is how it works isn't it babies this is totally everything's normal and everything's fine everything's totally normal but I didn't know what the fuck was going on either I know you didn't know I know but I'm not going to say I'm not going to let my thoughts go I think this might be a bit of a fucking mess babe I think we're in the shit here sweetheart no listen I think Lewis did the worst thing that would really piss me off if you had fainted and became and the doctors were all run you I'd be so annoyed I would be like it's annoying when someone fights while you're in labour I'd be like I knew you would do this I knew you would do this No, my mum fainted during my first labour.

29:14Clair Buckley:It was hilarious. To be fair, she'd had... Teeth out? Yeah, she'd been to the dentist. She'd been to the dentist, so she'd had local anaesthetic. Yeah. She hadn't eaten all day. And then I went into labour. Because she was about to have some dinner, and then we ended up going to the hospital or whatever. And then she did... It was like a cartoon faint. she like put her hand up. I don't think she put her hand up. And I like had to grab her to stop her from falling. Yeah. And then you were in the bed sucking on that thing. Gassing there, yeah. Like you're trying to have a baby and you were sat up like looking at her and I was like trying to cushion her fall.

29:59Clair Buckley:And then I went, hello. Yeah, James, the most panicked I've ever seen James. He was holding my mum on the floor. I'm inactive labor. I turned really posh. Yeah, he went, excuse me. I went, hello. Hello, can anyone help me? Because I was like, what are you talking like that for? She was out. She was out. Yeah. They took her out. They gave her some toast and a cup of tea and stuff. Yeah. She's going to love us for telling this again. This is from Matt. Matt says, hello, James and Claire. Hate the podcast. Always have to listen to it for some bloody reason. I don't care how you listen to it. I don't care if you enjoy it as long as you listen to it.

30:43Thanks, Matt. We appreciate you.

30:44Clair Buckley:Growing up, my mother insisted my siblings and I had to learn an instrument. Yeah, it's a good thing to learn. Yeah, it's a good thing. After my piano teacher kept yelling at me, I decided I wanted to change. Introducing the coolest instrument of them all, the saxophone. Oh, the saxophone is cool. That is cool. Which was far more convenient than my sister, who out of protest chose the French horn. Fast forward to about year nine, when there was so much more to life than learning to become the next John Coltrane. My mother was steadfast in her commitment to my musical education and would not let an evening go by without the enforcement of practice.

31:26Yeah, see, that's where you lose them.

31:27Clair Buckley:One evening alone in the living room with sax in hand, I blew my top. I smashed my sax against the sofa. Now, saxophones are not cheap. Having realised what I had done, I came up with a plan. I took it into school the next day when my lesson was scheduled, which I forgot the time of. Making sure to put it in its soft case, not the hard one. Upon arriving home, I opened it and acted shocked that someone else had dumped their instrument on mine in its soft case and severely dented it. To this day, my mum still believes this saxophone sacrilege was not my fault and I think it's time to come clean.

32:10Does your mum listen to the podcast?

32:12Clair Buckley:Well, Matt hates listening to it, so I don't know if his mum listens to it, but Matt's mum, that saxophone was Matt. He'd had enough. This is the problem, though. when parents make you do it too much when you don't want to do it. There's a fine line and I think we've also talked about this, haven't we? Because our oldest plays a lot of instruments. Harrison's a very talented musician. I'd like to see him practice more. Well, that's the thing. I don't want to make it into a thing. Yeah, you don't want to turn it into an argument that you have to have all the time because it turns them off. I want it to be his thing that he enjoys.

32:54Absolutely, yeah. So it's tricky

32:57Clair Buckley:Perotting is tricky It is Perotting's a fucking It is Because when I used to dance My gran was the one That took me to dancing And she made me practice All the time And it did It made me hate it Yeah But then you understand Like looking back now I understand why she did that Because I was good And she wanted to Push me And make me You know Maybe go somewhere where And you just don't You don't think about it You've got trophies and stuff And things And ribbons I've got ribbons I've got loads of trophies Right Well, there you go. Matt's mum. It was Matt. Matt smashed up his saxophone in a rage. Wow.

33:33Let's have a little swipe and then I've got a feature for you. Okay.

33:38Clair Buckley:Hey, Claire, it's time for a feature. This week, we're going Buck in the Day, brought to you by McDonald's. Jingle me. Tell your family, tell your friends. Things were so much better then. I just really want to say. How I miss bugging the day. Now, if you're a regular listener to this podcast, you know that it's very rare that I go through a whole episode without mentioning the 90s. I love reminiscences. That's Claire. That was very delicately done there, Claire. Thanks. I'm a little delicate flower, mate. Which is how we managed to stumble on one of my favourite features. buck in the day. Before we do get into it, a little reminder, keep your buck in the day memories coming in by emailing thebuckleys at platformmedia.uk or you can message us at thebuckleyspod on Instagram and TikTok or send us a voice note 0203 951 4651.

34:44Clair Buckley:We have a letter. A letter?

34:49Clair Buckley:We have a letter here from Adam. He is 11 buck in the day. So we've got a letter here from Adam. Adam says, hello, Buckleys. I want to reminisce about birthdays. Over the years, they become less important. I have a theory as to why. I think it's because nothing, and I mean nothing, compared to having a McDonald's birthday party when you were a kid. That was the peak of childhood The private little area Just for you and your mates The balloons and of course the food Having a party at McDonald's Is one of the most vivid childhood memories I can even remember the smell And every time I nip into one That smell transports me right back That's actually true Thinking about having my 40th in a Mackey's And I know more of my mates would come Cheers Adam I would come I think Adam's onto something.

35:43Yeah.

35:43Clair Buckley:I'm 40 next year. I definitely think your classic 90s McDonald's birthday party for people in their 30s and 40s. Yeah. I think that's a thing. Did you have a McDonald's birthday party? Do you know what? I don't think I did. You'd know if you did. I don't think I did. now but i so my dad um you know how you just you know you just like remember stuff so my dad used to love a mcdonald's but obviously back in the day we are back in the day we would only go like it like on a special occasion or maybe like a weekend right now see i lived right next door to my whole estate did you? no we had to we had to travel I had a whole estate it was like this say this is the estate this isn't going to work for audio no it's a circle it's a circle and then right next to that circle was a big McDonald's right so you went all the time yeah I didn't but constantly meeting at McDonald's it was a place where we met well when I got older we would meet at the McDonald's we would always go to McDonald's in Komarnock and I just remember being little in just thinking that those fries were the best thing I'd ever had in my entire life.

37:06Clair Buckley:I didn't get a McDonald's birthday party. Did you not? No, I went to many. I never really ever had a birthday party. Oh, guys, have we got the violin? Did you forget the violins again for James? No, it's because of, listen, it's not a, it's not a thing, it's not a mean thing. It wasn't just because my parents were being mean or anything like that. It was because my birthday was during the summer holidays. As soon as school finished, you were out. You were out of the loop. That's true. You didn't see everyone every day and stuff like that. So I never really had a big birthday party. Right. Because it'd be really difficult to get everyone together and to let them know this is when the birthday party's happening.

37:45Fair, fair. Did you ever take a girl on a date to McDonald's? Yeah, of course I did.

37:51Clair Buckley:It was the only place we had in Dagenham. Did you? Yeah. Who? I can't remember off the top of my head. Sure you can. I can actually. I can actually, but I don't want to say. Go on, what's her name? Kirstie. I was about nine at the time or something. And did you pay? Yes, I did. I genuinely think if there was a McDonald's restaurant somewhere, if there was one of the restaurants somewhere that wanted to go back to the 90s and make a little section. Absolutely. Huge. the you know 40th birthdays and stuff yeah i would want to do my birthday oh oh yeah you would in fact i would have you seen them people do weddings and stuff and they get mcdonald's after the you know like after the dinner and then we're like a little evening thing and i always thought damn that was such a good idea yeah one of the things I remember when I was when I was like 18 19 going like for a night when you woke up you were feeling a little bit rough the dream was always if McDonald's delivered then your life would be absolutely perfect and now it does and do you know something our kids will never know that feeling when I was in the flat before I met you my flat was used to be in a really good location it was in a hub it did yeah we'd go out the night and then everyone would just end up back at my at my flat yeah and then we'd all wake up the next day and it was like who's going yeah and hurry up as well because it's the cutoffs at 10 30 yeah yeah um which i think they've extended nowadays i'd say the the times where we hit mcdonald's the most is after school hockey practice after hockey after swimming anything that they're doing right now listen to this question drive through yeah do you ever do that thing where you go to the drive through order the meals whatever you're getting and then eat some fries in the bag on the way home never and I tell the kids off for doing that as well I always do I say keep it sealed I always do no I never do it yeah no but when you go to the drive through it's not sealed they do they just roll it over yeah they roll it over so when I get the bag I then crimp it a bit more with my hands Yeah, but before you do that.

40:17Clair Buckley:And then I hand it to either you or one of the kids and I feel like that's safe because I've got to drive. And then I turn to my left and Jude's like that. And I go, keep it, because my stuff's in there as well. It's not just your fries. Do you know there was one time that me and James did a McDonald's drive-thru and he was driving and we were going home and he put the heat seater on, put the McDonald's on the warm chair It made me sit in the back all the way home. It was a little system that I came up with. Yeah, I know. Made me move. I forgot about that. Well, it's just a system that I came up with.

40:57Like all the heating, like the air con was off. Yeah. The chair was warm. I got moved to the back.

41:05Clair Buckley:Yeah. I used to do that even during the summer and stuff. Oh, so James always says this thing whenever, you know, like if you're at traffic lights or you're in a bit of a busy road or whatever, in the police, you hear them coming from the back and they overtake every day. James always goes, he's got a McDonald's in there. Because that's just how he thinks. That's what I would do if I was a police officer and I'd just gone through a drive-thru. He's got fresh nuggets and he just wants to get home. Just traffic. Woo!

41:41Clair Buckley:Hey, quick, very quick question, Claire. Okay. To wrap this up, right? Okay. So McDonald's, they've got a few nicknames on the go, haven't they? Right. Right? Yeah. I mean, I've only got one coming into my head. Is that what you're going to ask me? What do I call it? Let's, from this day, from going forward from now, let's just go, this is it. Now, you've got Mackie's. Yep. You've got Maccas. Right. Grab a Maccas. Okay. Mackie D's. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. Nothing else counts, right? No. I do like the Golden Arches. That gets me excited. Because when you do see them on like a long journey, you think, ah.

42:29Clair Buckley:It's like, listen, don't get me wrong. when I have seen the Golden Arches, I've had to go to work and you're in some country that you've never been before and you don't know how to speak the language and stuff. And then you see the Golden Arches. Right. And what do you hear? There you go. Right. That was bucking the day, guys. Right. That's it for this week's episode of The Buckleys. Thank you very much for listening. We do appreciate it. Remember, you can get in touch with your stories and questions by emailing thebuckleys at platformmedia.uk or you can message us at thebuckleyspod on Instagram and TikTok and don't forget to follow and subscribe to the show on Spotify whatever podcast app that you like to use I saw even once and if you're feeling extra generous why not go ahead and leave us a review all that is left is for Claire to say see you next Thursday oh are we allowed to say that can we say that I don't know hey chiefs go to chiefs

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