AI killed the tech interview. Now what? (News)

24 Feb 2025 · 6 min

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Podcast Summary: The Changelog - Episode: AI Killed the Tech Interview. Now What?

Episode Overview In this episode of The Changelog, host Jared discusses the intersection of AI and the technical interview process, alongside various tech innovations and projects. Key topics include the impact of AI on coding interviews, a new app developed by Rhys Kentish, advancements in quantum computing by Microsoft, and an insightful analogy about software estimation by Chris Horsley.

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Key Discussions and Insights

  1. AI and the Technical Interview Process
  2. Speaker: Kane Narraway
  3. Key Points:
  4. The introduction of AI tools has drastically altered the traditional technical interview landscape.
  5. Key Quote: "HackerRank is pretty much broken."
  6. While computer science fundamentals and coding interviews are becoming less effective, architectural interviews still hold relevance.
  7. Observations indicate that candidates using AI often struggle to articulate their thought processes clearly, leading to pauses and misunderstandings.
  8. Future Implications: As AI continues to evolve, it may render interviews ineffective or less reliable.

Adaptation Strategies

Kane proposes five strategies for adapting to these changes

  1. Stop Remote Technical Interviews.
  2. Implement Surveillance Measures (e.g., Pearson View type spyware).
  3. Ignore the Problem (Bury heads in the sand).
  4. Adjust Interviews to Incorporate AI Use.
  5. Adopt a Hybrid Approach.
  1. App Development: "Touch Grass"
  2. Developer: Rhys Kentish
  3. Concept: An app designed to help users avoid excessive phone use by requiring them to physically step outside and “touch grass.”
  4. Technology Used: Built with SwiftUI, utilizing Apple’s screen time APIs and Google Vision for grass recognition.
  5. Challenges: Addressing users in various environments (e.g., deserts) could require additional features like “touch snow” or “touch dirt.”
  1. Quantum Computing Progress
  2. Company: Microsoft
  3. Product: Majorana One chip
  4. Highlights:
  5. Microsoft emphasizes the transformative potential of quantum computing once challenges like scale and reliability are overcome.
  6. Key Quote: "Quantum computers promise to transform science and society..."
  7. The Majorana One marks a significant advancement towards practical quantum computing, despite current limitations on real-world applications.
  1. Software Estimations Through Analogy
  2. Speaker: Chris Horsley
  3. Story: Chris shares his experience with a washing machine installation that took much longer than expected, drawing parallels to software project estimations.
  4. Main Takeaway: Unforeseen variables can significantly affect project timelines, emphasizing the importance of thorough estimation processes.
  1. IndieWeb Discovery Tool
  2. Developer: Andreas Gohr
  3. Concept: A tool reminiscent of StumbleUpon, allowing users to discover texts from the IndieWeb without commercial motives.
  4. Functionality: Users can suggest personal sites with RSS feeds for random discovery, promoting authentic, non-commercial content.

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Conclusion This episode of The Changelog brings to light the evolving nature of technology and its impact on traditional practices such as interviewing and software development. The discussions highlight the need for adaptability in the face of rapid technological advancements while celebrating innovative solutions that promote well-being and genuine content discovery.

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Additional Notes

  • The episode also includes a sponsored section highlighting Retool's new guided tour for building internal tools.
  • Encouragement for listeners to subscribe to the companion newsletter for more tech insights and updates.

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Upcoming Episodes

  • Anurag Goel from Render on Wednesday.
  • Kaizen 18 with Gerhard Lazu on Friday.

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0:04What up nerds? I'm Jared and this is Changelog news for the week of Monday, February 24th, 2025. My fellow Severance fans must know that Apple TV has published eight hours of music for us to refine to. They call the Odessa set perfect for your innie's workday. Okay, let's get into this week's news. AI killed the tech interview. Now what? Kane Narraway thinks through the radical change AI tools have brought to the already fraught technical interview process. He says hacker rank is pretty much broken. Comp, sci fundamentals, and coding interviews are also out, but architectural interviews still work, at least for now.

0:52Quote, from talking to people who have run these, it's evident when someone is using AI. They often stop with long pauses, do not quite explain things succinctly, and do not understand the questions well enough to prompt the correct answer. As AI gets better and faster, this will likely follow the same fate as the rest, but I would give it some years yet. End quote. Kane suggests five options of how we can adapt, some of which are better than others. One, stop remote tech interviews. Two, require some Pearson view type spyware. Three, bury our heads in the sand. Four, change our interviews to allow AI.

1:29And five, a hybrid approach. Something's gotta give. In the meantime, Kane thinks we'll see more people passing their interviews than being let go during their probation period. That sucks for everybody involved. What are you doing and seeing in this space? Let us know in the comments. I'd love to hear about it. An app to lock your apps until you touch grass. Reese Kentish wanted to change the habit of reaching for his phone in the morning and doom scrolling away for an hour. So he built an app to help him do just that. It's built in SwiftUI and uses the screen time APIs provided by Apple, plus Google Vision to recognize grass or not.

2:07Cool idea, but tough to manage for anybody living in deserts or tundras. Maybe he should add an in-app purchase to change touch grass to touch snow, touch dirt, or touch sand. It's now time for sponsored news. Play with Retool's guided tour. Now you can play with Retool, no account required, and you get a guided tour. Retool recently launched a guided tour, so you can see how easy it is to build internal tools based on data in their managed PostgreSQL database service, which they call Retool Database. The tour walks you through building an orders UI and connecting that interface to a real database with real data complete with real-time search.

2:48You'll get to see how simple they made it to build tooling without any front-enders needed, allowing them to focus on customer-facing things. If you haven't yet, now's a good time to play with Retool's guided tour to see how simple it is to build apps on top of their managed Postgres database or your own database. Check the link in the newsletter or head to retool.com to learn more. Microsoft's Majorana One chip. Microsoft tried really hard to make a big splash last week announcing their quantum computing efforts. Quote, quantum computers promise to transform science and society, but only after they achieved the scale that once seemed distant and elusive.

3:28And their reliability is ensured by quantum error correction. Today, we're announcing rapid advancements on the path to useful quantum computing. End quote. Are you excited yet? No? Well, then just hear this copy. Quote, Built with a breakthrough class of materials called a topoconductor, Majorana One marks a transformative leap toward practical quantum computing. End quote. Their hype-inducing efforts kind of worked. People are excited about the progress despite the fact that quantum computing isn't useful in any real way yet. But, hopefully someday. And even if not, you have to admit, the Moderna 1 looks really cool.

4:07On washing machines and estimations. Chris Horsley recently had a saga installing a new washing machine that he thought would take 10 minutes. It ended up taking him four whole hours. Sound like anything we know? In this excellent analogical post, Chris tells the tale of the six yaks he had to shave during his install process and what he learned from the whole ordeal. Quote, What we fail to factor in is that while 90 % of the project will be the same, there's going to be one critical difference between the last five projects and this project that seemed trivial at the time of estimation, but will throw off our whole schedule.

4:46Discover the IndieWeb, one blog post at a time. Andreas Gore built something cool. It's like StumbleUpon before capitalism got it. But for the IndieWeb, why did Andreas build it? Quote, I love reading text written by real people. texts that don't want to sell something. But how can you discover texts you can't search for because you don't know they exist? That's where this page comes in. Click a button, be surprised, and maybe discover your new favorite thing. End quote. You can suggest your own or a friend's personal site as long as it has an RSS feed. RSS for the win once again. That's the news for now, but also scan the companion newsletter for all the links and more, including Google served go backdoor to devs for three plus years, Wireshark for Docker containers, and a year of UV pros, cons, and should you migrate?

5:39If you don't get the newsletter, sign up today at changelog.com slash news. Scroll back in your feed for some awesome pods. Last week, we spoke with David Croshaw all about his experience programming with LLMs. and on Friday Adam and I discussed the dev opinions we have and have not changed our mind on over the years. Coming up this week Anurag Goel from Render on Wednesday and Kaizen 18 with Gerhard Lazu on Friday. Have a great week leave us a five-star review if you dig our work and I'll talk to you again real soon.

From the publisher

Kane Narraway thinks through the radical change AI tools have brought to the technical interview process, Rhys Kentish built an app that makes him touch grass, Microsoft announced their progress on quantum computing, Chris Horsley learns about software estimations by yak shaving a washing machine install & Andreas Gohr built StumbleUpon for the IndieWeb.

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