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Podcast Summary: The Changelog - Episode #define: sheer resistance (Friends)
Episode Overview In this episode of *The Changelog*, titled "#define: sheer resistance (Friends)", the hosts engage in a game show format featuring past winners battling for the title of "Champion of Champions." The show involves identifying obscure jargon and definitions, with humorous banter among the participants.
Key Themes and Concepts
Introduction and Game Setup
- Hosts and Format: The episode features hosts Adam and Jerry, along with previous winners Taylor, Thomas, Matthew, and David.
- Game Structure: The game involves 10 rounds, where players guess definitions of obscure words from STEM fields, earning points based on accuracy and deception.
Key Highlights
- The Importance of AI in Development: Early in the episode, the discussion highlights how AI technology is increasingly integrated into software development, with references to tools like Agentic Postgres.
- Obscure Jargon Game: The core of the episode revolves around the "Pound Define" game where participants submit definitions for obscure words.
- Example words include iatrogenic and heteroscedasticity, with definitions tested for accuracy.
Round Breakdown
- Round 1: The word "iatrogenic" is revealed, and players submit their definitions. Points are awarded based on who can correctly identify the right definition or mislead other players successfully.
- Winner: Taylor, who knew the correct definition.
- Round 2: The word "heteroscedasticity" tests participants again, leading to humorous exchanges and competitive guesses.
- Winner: David, who correctly identified the definition.
- Subsequent Rounds: Each round introduces new obscure words, with participants showing off their knowledge while also trying to mislead others to score points.
- Final Round: The word "Rob Ding Nagy in" leads to the final challenge and a tiebreaker scenario.
Conclusion and Tiebreaker
- Two-Way Tie for First: After several rounds, Matthew and Taylor tie for first place.
- Tiebreaker: The hosts use a Google autocomplete challenge to determine the ultimate winner, with Matthew ultimately claiming victory by correctly guessing "Bill Gates climate change."
Key Takeaways
- Humor and Camaraderie: The episode showcases the playful rivalry among participants and their camaraderie, characterized by humorous exchanges and insights into jargon.
- Engagement with Technology: The conversation also serves as a reminder of the evolving landscape in software development and the increasing role of AI.
Closing Remarks
- The hosts encourage listeners to engage with the show via comments and express their enjoyment for these game show-style episodes. They mention upcoming episodes and thank their partners and contributors.
Additional Information
- Sponsorship: Thanks to Fly.io for their support.
- Music: Theme music provided by Breakmaster Cylinder.
- Submit Feedback: The hosts encourage feedback from listeners to improve future episodes.
Listen to More
- For more game show-style episodes, check out changelog.com/topic/games and follow their Spotify playlist titled "Dev Game Shows."
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:14Welcome to changelog and friends, a weekly talk show about listening to your grandma. Thanks as always to our partners at fly.io, the public cloud built for developers who ship. We love Fly. You might too. Check them out at fly.io. Okay, let's play.
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2:16We can listen to Changelog and Friends With Adam and Jerry and people you know Changelog and Friends It's your favorite ever show Welcome once again to Pound Define Hour Game show all about fake, obscure, jargon, definitions, tomfoolery And people who generally know way too much about words also Adam and I are here. Yeah, I'm here today again. We are joined by our champions. This is going to be a, I was going to say a Duke Nukem because that's on my mind, but I was, what's the name of that game where they all punch each other? Oh, Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots of Pound Define because everybody here, except for Adam and myself, have actually won the game.
3:04We try to get all of our Pound Define champs, but of course, scheduling is hard. And so Losh and Carol couldn't make it, but we are joined today. by our previous winners, starting with the person who won most recent, no, not first, because that was lost, but first right after him, it's Taylor Troge. First right after him, second. Second. Yeah, you're right. Second would work there. I lost in the first round. Yeah, how's it going? You did, but you came back and you were victorious after that. And then did you lose to Carol after that or did we boot you? I think I lost to Carol and then you got tired of me.
3:40Okay. So we're not tired of you. We're back. You're back. We've invited you back. And I'm sure you're going to give it a go. After Taylor is Thomas. Ooh, Jonathan Taylor Thomas. We should get a Jonathan here. Ooh, yeah. I have a JTT shout out from the 90s. What's up, Thomas? How you doing, man? I'm doing well. It's good to catch up with everyone. And yeah, happy to be back here. I think it's good for all of us that Carol did not join because she destroyed me last time I played. That's right. So you're one for two in winning, which is slightly better than Taylor, but not quite as good as Matthew, who's one for one, aren't you, Matthew?
4:22Yeah, I was going to decline this to keep my record, but here I am. I'm busy. Oh, yeah. I'm going to stay undefeated. I'm going to keep my belt, okay? You can't keep the belt if you don't fight for the belt. You can't take away what I can't lose. That's right. Well, if you don't show up, then you actually lose by default. And so I'm glad that you're here. to defend your title and to potentially take these guys' title. And lastly is our most recent winner. It's David Aja. David, welcome back. Glad to be back. What's up, David? You know, I'm chilling. I'm excited. I'm ready to earn the master's in BS.
4:58I feel like I got the BS in BS. Let's take it to the next level. Nice. Okay. Always BSing. If you win a third time, we get you the PhD. The BS HD. That didn't make any sense. Adam, why are you here? No, just kidding. so solidarity my friend solidarity you're here because it's changelog and friends that's right and so of course you are here i gotta be and should we reveal the secret from the changelog plus plus segment last time around do you want to get your comeuppance what was it what am i revealing what did i miss you won around you won remember after we quit playing we had a changelog plus plus special.
5:38And I won that one. You beat David and everybody else. You got to win in post shows. You know, if I'm going to win, might as well do it when no one's listening. I would describe that win as a hallucination. So. Well, it's funny you say that because we are going to put a slight twist on this round in order to level the playing field. You know, Adam's a big fan of golf. Oh, yeah. Golf, there's handicaps and there's also mulligans. And since you all are previous winners and Adam hasn't quite achieve that level yet we're going to give him a slight handicap which is that during this game he can pick one round he does not have to disclose but for one round he can actually use an lm to generate his answer and um that's it so he gets the trick up his sleeve he can deploy it whenever he wants he doesn't have to and he does not have to disclose it that way maybe who knows maybe you'll be the champion of champions should i not disclose it at all or just not until i win the round well that card is in you know your hand you can play it until you win the round well if i'm leveraging an agent there's no way i can lose yeah you might still lose the round yeah what are you talking about it's not a guaranteed win oh it's gonna i mean have you seen my agents well then why don't you have wins already well because i don't use the agents there buddy that's why i'm using my own brain which is stupid i use their brain which is very smart all the smarts there all the stupid here we have a no google policy we have a no agent policy of course don't look up the definitions because that wouldn't be very fun at all the way this game works is that we have 10 rounds of play we're playing to 12 points whichever one comes first and each round presents a word, which is obscure, hopefully.
7:29Hopefully nobody knows it. Maybe you know it. That is in the world of STEM-y things. So it could be science, medicine. It could be math. It could be music. It could be science fiction. It could be computer science, et cetera. They're just in that wheelhouse of science-y things. And a definition of the obscure word. Now, after I name the word, everybody submits to me their definitions of what they think the word means. Or if they don't know what it means, they make one up in order to fool their enemies into selecting it. After the definitions are submitted, I will read them all, hopefully without laughing.
8:10And then you all go around and try to guess which one is the correct definition. Now, if you get the right definition initially right away, you get three points and you set the round out. If you have the wrong definition, but other people pick yours, you get one point for each person who picks your definition. And then at the end of the round, if you happened upon the correct definition during the selection process, you get two points. So three, two, and one. If nobody selects the correct definition in a round, I, your humble host, get four points. And the first one of 12 wins or the person with the most points after all 10 rounds.
8:49I doubt we're going to have to do all 10 to get to 12 because David scored 12 in like 37 seconds last time. So any questions before we get into round one? No, let's get it. Excited to get started. All right. Here we go. Your word for round one is iatrogenic. Iatrogenic. i-a-t-r-a-g-e-n-i-c iatrogenic please submit to me your definitions for iatrogenic now
9:37is there a problem taylor i know this one i'm just trying to it's so close now jared have you considered using a text-to-speech uh solution for reading these definitions out loud to avoid the laughter problem the metagame that's a really good idea i just feel like i would be really bored yeah i should do i feel yeah you don't want ai taking your job that's right fight for it i'm gonna keep fighting all right all definitions are in for iatrogenic and i will say right up front that taylor has the correct definition so three points for taylor and you can just relax my friend good job he did know it he really knew it So there are one, two, three, four, five possible definitions for iatrogenic.
10:45Number one, iatrogenic describes natural springs which produce water with high concentrations of ionic water. Number two, iatrogenic caused inadvertently by medical treatment or diagnosis. Number three, an object solely composed of distinct dissimilar parts. number four describing cells in the endocrine system responsible for producing hormones and number five the process of swapping out one gene pool for another there you have it five potential definitions for iatrogenic we start since taylor is resting we start with thomas yeah so looking at this list we have the water ones natural springs with ionic water okay So like genic, I think about iatrogenic, genic being like a degenerate.
11:43I know that much. Caused inadvertently by a medical operation was number two. A combination of distinct dissimilar parts, cells in the endocrine system, and then gene pool swapping. Well, yeah, thank you. No, thank you, because normally people are like, what's number three again? Okay, what really sticks out to me is the caused inadvertently. So number two is what I'm going to go with. All right, Thomas goes with number two. How about Matthew? Because you said something, I want you to repeat number three, actually. Okay, number three is an object solely composed of distinct, dissimilar parts, you jerk.
12:31True. Is that in the definition? I don't know if it's the definition. That was for him. He's just trolling me. That was a troll. We all know what it was. The similar parts, water, water repeated water twice, actually. So that was interesting. The gene pool one. Number one. Yeah. There was one that's not the gene pool, not the water, not the similar parts. There were two other definitions that I can't remember. Oh, gosh. So number four was describing cells in the endocrine system responsible for producing hormones. Okay. That's not gene pool. It's not. Not gene pool. Not the similar, not water and not cells.
13:07There's that one other one. Not cells. Yeah. This is like a test for me. There's that one. This one right here. Gotcha. The process of swapping out one gene pool for another. No, we said that one. Okay. Caused inadvertently by medical treatment or diagnosis. Yeah. I'm like that one in. That's the one. Yep. So you're going to pile on. Pile on. I admittedly, I didn't. catch which one Thomas picked. So yeah, it's a pylon. So it's an accidental pylon. Fair. All right, we go to David. I'm going to construct an additional pylon. This guy doesn't just pylon. He constructs pylons. All right. We got three people on number two.
13:49And we go to Adam, who's the last one to actually guess. What's the second to last one, Jared? That would be the fourth. Yes. Can you read that one, please? describing cells in the endocrine system responsible for producing hormones. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one right there. Let's dial that one in. Yeah, lock it. Let's dial that one in. Let's lock that one. No breakfast ball required, Phyllis. All right. Well, after round one, of course, Taylor gets the default three. So, Taylor, what's the correct answer, Taylor? The correct answer is the medical one. and the only reason i know it is from an asim taleb book i can't remember which one but he loves that word really fooled by randomness or i mean i don't remember i haven't read one of 10 years or something uh anti-fragile is that him that's definitely him that sounds like something that would happen in there because like maybe you go in for an appointment and then you get misdiagnosed and then you're stronger afterwards no that doesn't make sense i don't know yes that is correct definition for iatrogenic it's when something's caused inadvertently by medical treatment or diagnosis taylor's definition was has the opposite intended effect as in hospitals killing healthy patients very good so thomas matthew and david each correctly got that so they each get two points thomas matthew and david and then adam he did not pile on he went for describing cells in the endocrine system responsible for producing hormones that was david's so an additional point good job david good job david come out the gate with 12 right away he's coming out he's on pace he's on pace once again and uh successful round one we have taylor and david with three thomas and matthew with two and your humble hosts with zero moving to round two in round two your word is heteroscedasticity it's spelled h-e-t-e-r-o-s-c-e-d-a-s-t-i-c-i -t-y i'll put that in chat yeah you need to put that in chat i'll say it one more time it's heteroscedasticity there we go heteroscedasticity that's tough
16:27Matthew is the Oxide t-shirt embroidered yeah this one is quality quality from end to end that's not iron on embroidered wow I grabbed a couple t-shirts while I was there and they were, I grabbed the XLs, went back to the hotel, and I'm like, ah, these are too big. I went and swapped them for larges. Got home, and I'm like, ah, these are too small. I don't know what to do. I wear them when I work out. It makes me look buff, you know? I love the Zero Axe Engineer one. It's so cool. Yeah, I want to go in, so we're in the closet somewhere. Just me and Matthew have that problem with our arms. We just can't fit everything in, you know, our guns.
17:09The pipes. Can't you tell? They're pretty much the same size. Have you considered working on anything other than the biceps? I considered it. He'll keep it under advisement. So Adam, when you do decide to deploy your LLM-based answer, which language model are you going to use? Gosh. Great question. I don't know. Honestly. I don't know. I don't know. I just don't know. There's a Mac app called Chorus that makes it easy for you to just fire the same question to a bunch of them at once oh really which when i when i have things where it's like i don't actually care which model i just want to try several at once that's that's often kind of helpful that's pretty much what i do manually i just like copy paste it into like three different prompts and um so that was really something i might give a shot you know i really like to go scorched earth and just you know maximize my compute on this particular literally scorch the earth.
18:13How could I maximize my carbon footprint? I was looking away. Was that you, David? Was that your voice I heard saying that? Who was that that said this tool? Was it David? Chorus? That was David, yeah. It's called chorus, like you're a chorus of people. Is that right? Like a collection of people singing. Is that chorus.ai? I do not remember the domain. I think if you just... If you just ask all your LMs, we'll want to point you to the right place. I found a couple of choruses that are not that. I'm trying to find that chorus.sh oh they don't want you talking about it chorus.sh that's not what that means Jared chorus.sh what does it mean shell?
18:51yeah it's like a.sh file script that's why they made the TLD was for shell scripts? I don't know best being used well sure it's probably for Shazakistan yeah Shazakistan Or it could be Shazam. It could be Shaq's favorite movie about himself. He can afford TLD, I think. Anybody can. Whoever did this website for Khorus is just, I like it. Great job. Adam, if you're looking for advice on LLMs, you should pick up a vintage. Go for like GPT 2.5. It's a nice vintage. It's got a good taste. What year is that? it's like a 2021 vintage you might be correct
19:50all right i have five definitions for heteroscedasticity or however you say it you're getting better at it though the practice is paying off i feel like it good and by five i I mean five, not six, because one of us got it 100 % correct. And that person is Mr. David Aja. Three points. Wow. David. I have to try really hard not to help you with the pronunciation. Oh, and he knows how to pronounce it too. How am I doing? You got there. Yeah, eventually. I have this pronunciation guide. And as I try to read the actual syllables, it's just a lot of syllables. I couldn't quite put them together. When you just look at the words, it's not so bad.
20:33But anyways, neither here nor there. Up first, this round, well, let me read them. Gosh, you guys just guessed the numbers. Might as well. Okay, five definitions for heteroscedasticity. Shoot, I'm back. A material that has differing shear resistance across its various dimensions. That's number one. Number two, when molecules have multiple stable configurations. number three the process of fine-tuning multi-dimensional data structures into a single data store number four a collection of disjoint operators which make up the order one manifold and number five a statistical property in which some subpopulations in a collection of random variables have different variabilities from others there you go five definitions heteroscedasticity let's start with thomas so the first one we have is this material with different shear yes shear resistance across its various dimensions across various dimensions okay so it makes sense that all these do play into the prefix of the word the hetero right of mixing up different things together right right number two you have uh molecules with different what were the multiple stable configurations yeah multiple stable configurations okay okay that makes sense for three fine-tuning for multi-dimensional lms or ai multi-dimensional data structures Oh, data structures.
22:16I'm just throwing... Process of fine-tuning multidimensional data structures into a single data store. You see, but I feel like this C-I-T-Y at the end is not necessarily like a process. So it's describing a state of something. It's a city. Yeah, but it's a city, not a state. I beat you to that one, Taylor. And then what was the collection, the operators? Yeah, a collection of disjoint operators, which make up the order one manifold. What is the order one manifold? That's the question. Order dash one, order minus one. I don't know, order one. I just haven't heard of that before. It's interesting.
23:00Could be that one. You know, I do think it's the statistical variabilities within multiple data sets that just kind of feels right to me. Hetero, you know, different, you know, mixing together and then city describing the state. So I'll go with number five. All right. Thomas gets five. We go to Matthew. I'm also leaning five. I think that makes sense. I don't think the stable state one makes sense. I don't think the order one makes sense. What else was there? Sheer resistance was one. Fine tuning. Fine tuning of some data structure. And then what was that one I'm missing? It was a material having differing shear resistances.
23:46Yeah, so I have shear data structure, order manifold. And stable configurations. That's it. And statistical property. Damn, I think I'm with you on this one, Thomas. Another pile on. I'm pile on. It worked out last time. Please pile me on. Let's stack up around the normal distribution. This is feeling like a repeat. Okay, David's out. Adam. I'm going to pile on. I don't know what I'm piling on to, but whatever they chose, I'm choosing. That's it. Blind faith. Adam gets it. He's just following along like a lemmy. I've learned. Okay. Yeah, well. Follow or lead. If you can't lead, you follow. I'm following.
24:31All right, fair. Taylor, are you leading? Are you following? What are you doing? I'm leading. It's a warm bio, Taylor. My grandma always used to say, Taylor, homoscedasticity is sheer resistance in a single direction. So it must be the opposite, you know? Like, this is a family secret. And I just realized that this must be the truth. Taylor, this was your grandmother who worked in the bomb factory. and she used to tell you stories about her time in the bomb factory to put you to sleep and you can ask. Exactly. That same grandma. That same grandma. He would snore just, Hederskynasticity. When he goes to sleep.
25:15You almost can snore that. That's what you always say. All right. So you're going with the material, the differing shear resistances because your grandma told you so. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Just making sure. all right so we find ourselves in similar grounds as last round except for david has the correct answer and so david why don't you tell everybody what the right answer is i drew a little diagram because i used to love trying to draw this when i wanted to be an economics professor this is a this is a homoscedastic distribution right where the normals are basically kind of the same and And then this is a heteroscedastic distribution where the variance for one subgroup is smaller than the other.
25:59But they're both in danger from that T-Rex. Yeah, the T-Rex is definitely after both distributions. So either way, you're going down. You're getting eaten no matter what. That's right. Was that a drawing of a metal pipe? Because it's materials, right? Was my grandma lying to me? I can't see the different shears. I can't see the... Come on. That's not a drawing of the sheer resistance. All right, so Taylor's grandma let him right into Matthew's lap. Matthew wrote that one, so one point for Matthew. And the three of you all got it correct. The statistical property in which some subpopulations in a collection of random variables have different variabilities from the others.
26:42Of course, hetero, everybody knows what that means. The last part, the skidasticity, comes from the ancient Greek word skidonemi. which means to scatter. So there you have it. Oh, it also comes from skedaddle. Yeah, which is when you got to run. Everyone scatter. That's right. They actually, that's how they got there. They mispronounced skedasticity. That's right. And if you want everybody to run in different directions, you say, let's heteroskedaddle. That's right. All day.
27:10Like cockroaches. Heteroskedaddle. Okay. So three points for David. Matthew gets two plus one. He gets three. Thomas gets two. Adam gets two. Taylor locked out of this round. After two rounds, we have David in first with six, Matthew with five, Thomas with four, Taylor with three, Adam on the board with two, and I'm still sitting at zero. However, I'm very excited for round three because the word for round three is a chakatura. Okay, friends, augment code. I love it. This is one of my daily driver AI agents to use. Super awesome. CLI, VS Code, JetBrains, anywhere you want to be, Augment Code can bring better context, better agent, and of course, better code.
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29:18Achakatura. Oh, I like that one. Yes, you heard that right. Achakatura. A-C-C-I-A-C-C-A-T-U-R-A. Please submit your definitions for Achakatura now. Achakatura.
29:54do we know if you're pronouncing that correctly that's the way the person on youtube said it when I looked up how to pronounce that word. Now, they could have been wrong because I did not go for multiple sources. This is like a play on acai. That's what this is. This is like acai. This is just a little. Yeah, just a few more letters on that one. Right? Just a few. The double cc's. That's a very rare thing. It is. Very rare. And what's weird is the first cc's are the cha and the second cc's are the ka. A cha ka. But there's no ss. It sounds so weird that now I'm going to go You guys keep typing, I'm going to go double check You two, maybe get a second source Maybe I'm saying it wrong No, yeah, I'm saying it right I'll stop pressuring you I was questioning a lot of things in my life I'm happy I'm back on firm ground here Country of origin Use it in a sentence Yes The sentence is The word for round three is
30:58it's not my sixth first pound to find thomas i'd like to uh buy a val hint thing whatever and get there's a lot of vowels in this word like the lm from adam to be used how do how do we do that i here i have dollar how do i have dollar i have dollar i think drives my work. Only one? Only one? How many tokens can I get with this duck? That's right. It might cost a bit more than that. Taylor, did your grandma tell you anything about this word? Actually, yes. I'm very excited. I'm very excited. Well, she led you astray with the previous word, which I will not pronounce again. She's not perfect, and that's okay.
31:43To her credit, she was not talking about hetero. She was talking about homo. it's an entirely different thing don't let me distract you guys I know you're all working hard Taylor's done though it's really easy when you cheat just look up the definition you know it makes things go a lot faster that's what my grandma always said are there any words with the mythical triple C like in existence yeah dude three C's
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32:16That's a great question I don't know the answer to that You find anything? Not yet No, I don't think it exists Initial searches are not good No Now I'm going to my second round of searching CC is a cubic centimeter Did you learn that in Canada? 20 CC's Of this stat Oh yeah But cubic centimeter is the same as a milliliter That's a great question What is that, an American? An American?
32:49I was at a distillery once, and they, you know, there's the equivalence between, like, a gram of water and a cubic gram and a milliliter are the same amount of water. Yeah, it's... And then they said they measured their water in pounds, and I was just like... Hmm. I don't trust whatever's going on back there. Mm-hmm. Is that British pounds, or...? I think. They are imperial towns.
33:18It's looking like there aren't any CCCs. You mean the Cs have to be next to each other, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. You're talking about a word that has CC next to each other three times. Oh, is that what you want? I thought you wanted three Cs in a row. No, I wanted three Cs in a row. Oh, you did. So I'm giving you what you want, and you can't have any. Thomas was trying to give you something different which is two C's three times Is there any word in the English language that has three of the same letter next to each other? Of any letter? I think like giggity probably Ooh, that's a good one When we were expecting our child I wanted to I wanted to name If we had a boy I wanted to name him Aaron with three A's He'd be first in everything
34:11Elon Musk challenges that the A-A-Ron yeah that reminds me of that sketch that's a good sketch can you start their name with a null terminator like just just terminate any string or a semicolon no the um what's the Greek question mark that looks like a semicolon yeah it's called an awful no it's called the Akashuria or whatever it is that's the Greek question Akashia Cat Akasha Akasha Cat you're a
35:01alright we have everybody's except who are we missing here? Oh, we got them all. We got them all. It was Adams. I finally, my LLM finally got back to me. It's like, come on, man. You're taking way too long here, man. Oh, my God. Oh, God. A huge batch or something, dude. What are you doing? Hey, nobody knows what this word means. That's a relief. I went to this website called toadvanced.com, and it was just, they have a brand new LLM there, and it was just too advanced. I appreciated how ChatGPT5 tried to answer the three C's in a row because it would like come up with words with two C's and then it would throw a third C in there and be like nope that doesn't work nope like stucco it's like stucco has two C's let me add a third C and it's like nope that's not the word stucco I was enjoying that back here okay world's smartest five year old really yeah that's why it's GPT5 is for five years old okay Okay, six definitions of Chakatura.
36:03Number one, a brief grace note played before a principal note, then immediately released. Number two, the order of operations for actions that must first precede other actions before being executed. Number three, a partial eclipse of a planet formed by multiple moons. Number four, a fungal infection affecting the forearms. Number five, a genus of fungi native to South American rainforests. And number six, when a material has a single plane of sheer resistance.
36:42I tried. I tried really hard. Okay.
36:48Matthew, you are up first this round. Yes. Okay. So single, single plane of sheer resistance. Yes. Fungal arm. Fungal infection affecting the forearms. Something else about a fungus? A genus of fungi native to South American rainforests. Uh-huh. A partial eclipse. Partial eclipse, pre-note, and pre-order operations sort of thing. Order operations, yes. Okay. I am in between, I'm honestly between two here. Can you repeat the definitions for the pre-note one and for the arm fungus? Yeah, a brief grace note played before a principal note, then immediately released was the musical one. And then the fungus one was a fungal infection affecting the forearms.
37:33Forearms. One word. Forearms. Not forearms like you have four of them. What if you have two arms? You don't have to worry about the other one. That's a chukatura. No, I can't even come up with anything. Yeah, I think what's throwing me off about the fungus one is that it's specific to the forearm.
37:53that's what's throwing you off about it it's like what would why would that classify different you know what i mean like what if it was like on my bicep or something why would that be different are there fungi that only affect the forearms different fibers man that's right yeah exactly it's different parts of the arm get it right how much you sweat different parts of your body yeah it's like when you do a lift and you're like this only work in my bicep and it's like yeah that's on my tour I think I like the musical note one personally. So I think I'm going to lock in the musical note. All right.
38:27Matthew is on the music note. We go to David. What was the other fungus? Yes. There was the fungal infection, which we've talked about extensively. And then there's the a genus of fungi native to South American rainforests. And one of these is the correct answer. That's right. Unless Jared is playing. Unless he's just fucking joking around us. This entire round, just a big troll. Like, surprise. It's not a real word. So we got two funguses. Fake word. Sorry, I'm going to do it. Can I have the final three one more time? Final three? Wow. I was going to do it. Okay, so number four was the fungal infection affecting the forearms.
39:08Number five is the genus of fungi native to South American rainforest. And number six is when a material has a single plane of sheer resistance. Oh, right. that's all you forgot about yeah I just like it just it flew through me it was so perceptive I'm gonna go for the musical term as well David's going for music and he has the I see a bass in the background he's a musician so that's very suspicious that the musician might pick the music I mean I'm not a musician I just own several instruments that hang behind me. And he likes guitars. As he showcases more instruments to further. Yeah, he moves so you can see the rest of his guitars.
39:53Yeah. How many forearms do you have? Okay. I play all of them simultaneously. Taylor, what are you thinking? Are you going to pile on with these guys? Are you going to go fungal? Are you going to go somewhere else altogether? Sheer resistance? No, I don't. My grandma led me astray. I'm not falling prey to the sheer resistance once again. He's resisting sheer resistance. Yeah, she actually, my grandma told me that a Chukatura is an eclipse, but I'm not trusting her, so I'm going to go for the grace note and pile on. All right, he's pile on on the grace note. Oh, boy. We go now to Thomas. Okay. Okay, so Grey Snow has a pylon, and the order of operation for actions doesn't have any love.
40:45Partial eclipse with multiple moons. That looks like I'm trying to imagine what that would look like. That would be pretty cool to see, but I don't see how that's a check, Tura. Have you seen Star Wars? Have I seen Star Wars? Yes. Yeah, it's like that. That's multiple suns? dude you didn't you didn't watch the end credit the end credit scene the end credits is all multiple moons yeah moon fest it's not just multiple moons it's partially cliffs it's a partial eclipse of multiple moons right yes a rare occurrence we have fungal in the forearms so i could be like ringworm different different places rumble in the jungle fungal in the forearms Yeah, fungal in the forearm.
41:33But there's some like fungus feeling thing about a Chakitura. And I'm going to go with number five, the genus of fungi native to South America. All right. So we have Thomas on the South American rainforest fungi. All alone on my little island. No man is an island. I don't remember the rest of the poem, but no. It's a poem. It's a book. well it's a poem and it's a book that's all by Thomas this guy's pulling out books that's what they are Thomas reads dude he's a book that says no man is an island he just book checked you you should read some Thomas Merton that's awesome I love that Adam what you thinking man mom always told me if I get a chance to pile on to pile on so I'm going to pile on I'm just listening to grandparents and mamas, okay?
42:31He's just following the crowd here. Mama always still has a good pow-long. Pow-long? All right, let's start right there. A chakatura is a brief grace note played before a principal note, then immediately released. I think it's an Italian word. So, Matthew, David, Taylor, and Adam each get two points. Matthew, David, Taylor, Adam. And Thomas guessed a genus of fungi native of South American rainforest. That was Matthew, so he gets a bone. Good job, Matthew. We both had fungus on the mind. Oh, perfect. I was wondering who else did the fungus one. I really liked a fungal infection affecting the forearms.
43:10However, it had this certain roll to the sentence where I thought, that can't be a real thing because it just sounds so a fungal infection affecting the forearms. It's almost alliterative. It's poetic. that's what got me with the water one last time i was like they said water twice that which was that was also thomas yeah so he's on to you dude i'm honestly i've been reading too much too much he just takes the bookshelf tears it down here with us plebs you know i did just see hamlet i saw hamlet last week and maybe that's all getting in my head maybe it is yeah did he have a forearm infection no but it's shakespeare thanks now he's educating us plebs he's like that's shakespeare he didn't know that's the only author that i know okay that's the only author yeah shakespeare and i don't know uh yep that's it i can't think of another one here we go all right all right round four well let's let's total up the points here after three rounds david and matthew tied with eight it's a battle guys taylor with five thomas and adam tied at four and jared with and i'm still shut out we guys keep piling on which usually helps me because if you pile on to the wrong answer i win but you're piling on to the right answer and i lose you invited us champions here it's true i should expect the best and you guys are giving it to me okay round four give it a goog oh yes this is our give it a Goog round in which I open up an incognito tab and I don't change my IP address.
44:45So yes, you can go ahead and judge us Nebraskans. As I start to type a phrase into Google and then I stop and let it autocomplete. I then write down the top autocomplete answer from google.com when an incognito tab in Nebraska types Steve Jobs space. Steve Jobs. Then I stopped. Then I got some suggestions. Your chore is to write down what you think a believable suggestion would be, the top one, and send it to me whenever you're ready. So just his name and then space? That's right. his name Steve space jobs space what do you think Google would expect me to type next oh these are coming in hot and heavy these are good these are good just to clarify would steve jobs space needle be a good answer
46:02you could try it yeah okay it wouldn't stop you is that a clarification is that i'm leaving the space up to interpretation
46:16i want you to your mission should you choose to accept it is every round you have to one book that somehow relates, okay? Okay. Somehow relates. That sounds exhausting. It's a challenge. Yeah. It's going to be tough if we get to round six, especially. What's round six? I'll tell you when we get there. Come on, no hints. No teasers. I guess that kind of was a teaser. Yeah, it was. We're waiting for Adam and Taylor. I gotta say, make files are very annoying sometimes. Just letting you know. It was a heteroscedastic book. There you go. Hey, there you go. A little bit of tuft. A little bit of tuft?
47:06Is that not tuft? No, that was my nickname back in college. So that book. I didn't know. Yeah, I think. Yes, the visual display of quantitative information. Well, yeah. I sure pitched that. I pitched that round into your wheelhouse, didn't I, David? he's like this word exists on the front page of a book that i've read and i keep close i keep me buying i just need to reference it or just show off to my friends it's working i think you're pretty cool at this point okay everyone's in all right so six potential autocompletes for the search steve jobs blank steve jobs what google autocompletes the top autocomplete Here's your six potential answers.
47:54Steve Jobs' net worth. Steve Jobs' biography. Steve Jobs' feet pics.
48:07That tells us all we need to know about a brassica. Steve Jobs' daughter. Steve Jobs' wife. Steve Jobs' death. That's six. this round the person who gets to go first is david these are largely depressingly plausible yeah exactly i want to go net worth david goes net worth adam i've been curious about his feet honestly i've been thinking like what does his feet look like you know yeah i've seen him Show me your feet, dude. Okay? Steve Jobs' feet. He did famously walk around barefoot a lot. You know, like, maybe he's got some ganglies, you know? Maybe it's well manicured. Or a little bit of tuft.
49:02A little bit of tuft. A little bit of fungus. You could probably use some... A case aturo? Yeah, I wasn't trying to say that word. Some tough act into an act of... A chakatura? A Chakatura on them feets, man. You need some Chakatura. So you're going to go with feet pics or? Heck no, man.
49:24They want to know how much money he's got. Oh, man. Okay. Show me the money. Show me the money. All right, Steve Jobs, net worth. Next up is Taylor. Oh, it's for sure the Space Needle. It wasn't any of them. Steve Jobs Space Needle. It's definitely Space Needle. Okay. I'll go daughter. I appreciate you doubling down on that joke. Daughter? It was a good bit. I had to. Yeah, daughter. It was a good one. Taylor's going for Steve Jobs. Daughter. Okay, Thomas. Yeah, net worth, biography, feet pics, daughter, wife, and death. That's right. Got to end with death as always.
50:10So daughter, she came up with a book. Small fry a couple of years ago. Really? Oh, yeah. About fast food or? No. McDonald's? No. Is she a small human? I don't understand small fry. What's the context? I don't actually know what the context is of the title. It was his pinky toe. Dad's pinky toe. Is that? That's what it was. And you would only know that if you looked up the feet pics as everyone else in Nebraska has. Was it a picture book? It's not a picture book. It's a very serious book. It was actually the invention dad never did. That's what it was. Yeah, he never invented the small fry. Do you have it on your shelf behind you?
50:49No, I don't actually, but I do want to read it. It's on my list of books I want to read. I got too much stuff going on. All right. We got daughter or wife. You know, I'm going to go with daughter because she wrote the book. I wonder if people are like Steve Jobs' daughter who wrote the book. but they won't remember her name uh because she didn't she she was one is lisa brennan for a while before um uh now she goes by lisa brennan jobs so okay so you're going with daughter yeah all right thomas has daughter along with taylor david and adam are on net worth and matthew is the only one who hasn't picked yet what are you thinking man um what is it net worth daughter life life life wife or life wife wife biography biography life is it life there's wife net worth for sure you're going net worth yeah i'm piling he's piling we have two piles here we have two piles but which one is right david adam and matthew chose net worth.
52:04Steve Jobs net worth. Are people Google searching that? I don't know, but Adam created it, so he should know. Nice. Good job, Adam. Good job, Adam. One point for David and Matthew. You don't score any points for guessing your own, but you did convince people. Oh, yeah. I forgot I guessed my own. Whoops. No, you have to pretend like that's a strategy. I really just did forget. I was like, play it off play it off it's gotta be net worth well fun fact net worth was actually the third autocomplete for me so it's right up there at the top um the second autocomplete for me was death so that was right there at the top matthew actually said death but the number one autocomplete for steve jobs is steve jobs daughter so taylor and thomas landed on it taylor thomas jonathan taylor thomas two points each for jtt and i get zero so i guess j doesn't get any but tt gets two other autocompletes there in that list death net worth children cause of death wife and finally steve job quotes no feet pics no whatsoever that was thomas's he threw a rush and it was a good one all right so after round four we still have matthew and david tied with eight that makes sense did you guys score that round no you did not just making sure my calculator is working matthew and david have eight taylor has seven thomas has six adam has six this is a very tight game of poundifying we move down to round five what if ai agents could work together just like developers do.
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56:23Moving on to round five, where we play a round of weird flicks. but okay in this round i have gone out to the interwebs and i have found an obscure old movie oh yes in fact i found a movie from 1928 i then took the synopsis of that movie you know like the one-liner description of like what the movie's about you can read it on imdb etc and i jotted that down your job is to write a synopsis given the name and the year that it was made and convince all of us that you actually wrote the real synopsis of the movie. The movie I wrote down is called The Man Who Laughs. The Man Who Laughs. It's from 1928.
57:09Please submit to me your synopses for The Man Who Laughs whenever you have them ready.
57:21And we're confident on that year this time? The year is correct. The year is correct. I gotta go over to my DVD shelf to grab it. Just for Thomas, a movie is like a book, but a fun book. It's like a fun version of a book. A fun book. A fun book. Okay. And it takes several hours to days to finish? If you're doing it at one speed, dude. If you're a rookie. you gotta watch all my movies at 2x speed just as Scorsese intended you gotta watch it on your iPod nano at double speed you know have you seen Star Wars? that should be the legal question that reminds me did you guys hear Ira Glass came out of NPR fame of This American Life came out and said all podcasts should be listened to at 2x surprised me.
58:22He did not say that. He did say that. Ira Glass says podcasts should be listened to, including his own. All podcasts, 2X. I'm gonna start speaking really slow then, and all my jokes are gonna take way too long. Speed that up. 2X, just tell me how that sounds. Adam, all your jokes already take too long? I normally speak fast, so people generally slow me down. Yeah, I got too much excitement, and I'm Texan, so, you know, when I speak, it's just Texan. I don't know how to say it. I don't know what that means. Is it big words? Did you learn your first big word, Adam? Chakotore. Star. That's all we know how to say here in Texas.
59:06Star. Matthew, just in case you didn't know, you just gave me the title. I know, I know. I sent you the title back. I like to give you the word and the thing. I forgot I'm supposed to be describing a movie here. I'm talking. and I hit enter to do a new line. The man who laughs is what this is? The man who laughs. 1928. The man who laughs. Okay. I can do this. Jared, when do you get the first snow in Nebraska? Well, we have very unpredictable weather, so it can be as early as Halloween. And we had actually one year a humongous snowstorm on Halloween. Closed it down. But, more realistically, it's like late December, early January.
59:52But it's cold far before it snows. Oh, yeah. It'll be getting cold here soon. Right now it's perfect weather. We're in like 60s, 50s. Sunny. I like when the sun is hot, but the air is cold. That's good. Well, and you're in the right place. Yeah. I will say Adam I take your criticism of the Canadian American experience but one of the big benefits is two Thanksgivings yeah I've already had a Thanksgiving it was great got another Thanksgiving coming up in a few weeks it's gonna be great Thanksgiving really should happen twice a year totally agree 10 out of 10 it's actually like my favorite thing and they're spaced out enough right they're about a month and change apart so that that second one really comes in you're like oh yeah i love thanksgiving it's great it's coming around again is it similar fare or is there other yeah similar fare same stuff just different day cool i did the turkey this year though i got too big of a turkey for the number of people we had well that just means you got turkey sandwiches Turkey sandwiches.
1:01:08I made some stock. What's your preferred preparation for turkey? I do a salt rub the night before and let it air dry in the refrigerator. So I leave it uncovered. Gets the skin nice and crispy. and then day of, melt butter over it, chop up a lot of veggies, put them in the bottom of the pan, and roast it. I don't do anything too crazy fancy, and it just comes out perfectly. That sounds alarmingly like some sort of treatment for fungus, foreign fungus. What is this you're making here? Turkey. These are potatoes? No, turkey. Oh. No. Have you ever deep fried turkey? I don't have a house to sell on fire.
1:02:04Totally did. Nah, man. So the only time I've ever done it was with my uncle, who is a career firefighter. And that was the only person with whom I felt safe enough to deep fry a turkey. I appreciate, you know, all the local fire departments doing the video where they drop a turkey that's not quite frozen. You just watch it. Or not quite thawed and you just watch it. Not quite thawed. Yeah. any of that water it just goes Matthew how's your wife's chocolate business great I actually have to take pictures for the next Thanksgiving Christmas collection tomorrow I think does she ship to Canada not to Canada I know it's so expensive I know it's fine but if you can meet us at Niagara Falls yeah just meet you at the border yeah there you go yeah why are you coming down today oh yeah some chocolate a little chocolate swap just toss it across the border yeah oh that's called smuggling yeah yeah there's nothing wrong with that no i prefer snuggling chocolate jokes what's the difference i mean come on i was watching a video about the engineering of niagara falls the other day really interesting stuff and what I learned was that pretty much the exact same setup is replicated on both sides and it was kind of like a peeing contest to a certain degree it's like you're gonna do that we're gonna do it like they couldn't they couldn't share they couldn't work together it was like no we're both gonna have the exact same deal we're just gonna do everything twice oh that was kind of funny I think they work together in a certain sense of like the design because everything's design like mirrored to a certain degree which is kind of cool but I didn't know there was like all that going on back then.
1:04:16Six pretty well written Synopses for 1928's The Man Who Laughs. but which one is the actual movie plot? Here we go. Number one, The Man Who Laughs recounts the story of Dr. Dennis Rockwell who struggles with his grip on reality as he treats his patients at Mount Basker Mental Asylum. Number two, a disgruntled railroad worker catches the next train out of town to find beauty in life. Number three, a veteran of the Great War cheerfully tries to save his farm. Number four, a disfigured nobleman with a permanent grin is forced into circus life and separated from his true identity Number five, darkly romantic, a comedian is heartbroken when his lover leaves him for a member of his audience, the man who laughs And number six, thrust into the starlight, two laugh-filled men adventure together to seek the love of the same woman As stage performers who travel, they find it hard to see her in the crowd so they developed a laugh from bellows down below to win her love to win her love all right six different potential synopses of 1928's the man who laughs adam you can't pile on this drown because you are first gosh is there any way to go last is that possible you can't pile on because you're first can i just not do that i do think that would be an interesting mechanic to introduce in a future version of this game adam always goes last or just like you someone gets the ability to oh to like play that card every once in a while or something yeah that's a good idea interesting you know i wasn't listening so i'm used to going last and i get the pile on push my button it's just a you know the easy button you know could i ask you to just to describe them to me again i'm gonna give you a brief because this is a lot of reading no you can just give me the summary like that all right so number one was the story of dr dennis rockwell okay yeah i remember that i like that i was listening to that one i was kidding at the mount basker mental asylum number two that's a pretty good one who I wrote that.
1:06:36Number two was the disgruntled railroad worker who catches the next train out of town. Oh, yeah. Also pretty good. Finds beauty in life. Yeah. Number three was the veteran of the Great War who cheerfully tries to save his farm. Yeah, that's a good one, too. Number four, a disfigured nobleman with a permanent grin who's forced into circus life. That does have smile feels. What? What does it do? So laugh. So I guess laugh, smile. It's all the same, right? Number five was a comedian who's heartbroken when his lover leaves him for a member of his audience. The man who laughs. Taylor wrote that. Wow.
1:07:13Call out. Number six was the two laugh-filled men who are seeking the same, the woman's love. So there's your synopses of the synopses. What are you thinking? What are you convinced by? What are you? You know, I just want to ask if I can go last. You can't. You can't go last. All right, fine. I will go with the disgruntled railroad worker who found a way to go down the mountain. All right. Who's that guy? Is that mixing them? Did I mix them? A disgruntled railroad worker catches the next train out of town. That's when you want. Yeah. I don't know if I like that one. All right. Well, we'll see.
1:07:57What was the one before that? Taylor, you're next. Can I go last? What was the one before that? The man who goes last. Are you not locked in? No. Still thinking about him. I thought we were moving on. Before that was the Dr. Dennis Rockwell at the mental asylum. He treats his patients, but he struggles when he loses a grip on reality. Yeah, that's plausible for sure. You want that one? Nah. Railroad. Just go railroad all day. Railroad. All right. You're sticking with the railroad. Taylor, what do you want? Let's see. My grandma actually saw this one at the Aiders. did you say theaters 1928 right yeah she told me though it was the one about the guy with the old guy with the house with the balloons so that one's not an option I'll go with the nobleman the disfigured face the disfigured nobleman oh wait what was the first one again the Mount Baskerville Mental Asylum you want that one instead no let's do Nobleman Thomas let's see so we have The Mental Asylum we have Beauty Man After the Great War Circus Life, The Comedian and then The Two Laugh Filled Men I feel like you have Two Laugh Filled Men you call it The Men Who Laugh or maybe that's the sequel I'm going to go with The Mental Asylum the number one that's a good choice that's a good choice is it yours no it's just good choice man we go to matthew mental asylum one railroad something nobleman something you should go with the one with the great war uh in it something about a great war yeah because i don't think it happened yet can you read can you read the you like you know can you read the asylum one and the nobleman one Sure.
1:09:55So no, they're not the same. The asylum one is the story of Dr. Dennis Rockwell, who struggles with his grip on a reality as he treats his patients at Mount Basker mental asylum. Got it. Okay. Are you saying the great war wouldn't have happened by 28? What's the great war? Is that world? No, yeah, you're right. But 1928, see, he just said doctors. They didn't have doctors in 1928. That one, that one's false too, dude. also synopsis is synopsis whatever yes like a lot of you've introduced me with too many characters in that synopsis right uh and the other one was a noble something yeah disfigured nobleman disfigured no he's got a permanent grin oh like the joker always smiling he's forced in the circus life and separated from his true identity that sounds fun so he's first forced Okay.
1:10:51I think I'm leaning to that one. Someone already picked that one though, right? Yeah, Taylor picked that one and Thomas picked the mental asylum one. So they both have one person on them. I think I'm leaning towards the Nobleman, the Joker story, the Joker origin story. Okay. You're going to lock that in? Railroad is another one. Lovers something. Yes. Yeah, I think the Nobleman sounds the best here. It feels... I don't think anyone here is going to use the word disfigured. wow that's a that's a diss it yeah all right i'm gonna lock you in then lock me in please locked you in on the pylon we go to david yeah i think my intuition last time was sort of prudish about what would be acceptable movie like contents and so the disfigured nobleman kind of sounds right to me as well so it's a pylon again oh all right we're very we're very conservative bunch Seriously.
1:11:48We're all hurting. I am in pain, so yeah, the hurting is real. No, I'm just kidding. Well, it's keeping the game closed because every time someone scores, everybody else scores also. All right. Well, we've heard these synopses over and over and over again. Let's go to the guesses. Adam thought maybe it was the disgruntled railroad worker. That was written by Matthew. So one point to Matthew. Thomas was convinced by the Mount Basker Mental Asylum. I thought that one was amazing. Taylor wrote that. Good job, Taylor. Point to Taylor. And then the pile-on. They're piling on to a disfigured nobleman with a permanent grin who's forced into circus life and separated from his true identity.
1:12:31In 1928's The Man Who Laughs, that is the actual synopsis of a movie. It doesn't sound half bad, does it? It actually doesn't. I might have to go watch that later, Thomas. Yeah, or if you could get it converted into a book, then you could read it. Get it? I don't have to read everything as a book. I also watch movies. You can pull the book out when we talk about it. Fun fact, Man Who Laughs was the very first Pixar film. It's coming from the guy who's calling into question the years of the Great War. That was David. That's why he was defending that one. I tried to let it breathe for an appropriate amount.
1:13:09You don't want to jump to this defense too harshly. Yeah. I knew what you were doing there, David. I could see it. Well played. All right, so Taylor, Matthew, and David all get two points for getting that right. So three total points for Taylor. Two for David, three for... Where's my points? Did I get any points? Matthew, no, not this round. No. Unfortunately, you didn't get to go last. Oh, man. And that brings us to the end of round five. And Matthew is in striking distance. He has 11, of course. Taylor and David are also in striking distance with 10. Thomas and Adam have six. and we don't have to talk about me.
1:13:45I'm going to call a two-point win. Play your own rules. I don't know, man. I'm trying to... I see the time. I've got to eat, bro. I don't know. I'm not winning, so... So your entire... Not with that attitude. ...idea should switch to subterfuge, don't you think? That's your strategy? Just going to start reading. Just start reading. All right. That brings us to round six and that brings us to a very long word. pronounced Rob Ding Nagy in Rob Rob Ding Nagy in the rap. The word for round six is Rob Ding Nagy in and it's spelled B R O B D I N G N A G I A N Rob Ding Nagy in. That's my best pronunciation yet.
1:14:36Rob Ding Nagy in. That is definitely not how it's pronounced, but I see why you're doing it that way. This is the second time you've done this to me, and I'm telling you, I looked it up on YouTube. It's pronounced Brabdingnagian. So take that, Matthew. Take that, Matthew. Yeah. Check out your own YouTube videos for pronunciation and step back in my world again. Brabdingnagian. If it ends in I-A-N, it's Armenian. So, fun fact. the slight alteration it could also be pronounced brobding nagian so it could be nagian or nagian i've heard them both now but brobding is correct brobding please please submit to me your definitions of brobding ding nagian ding or nagian if you prefer and now
1:15:38you know what it's been real i'll get some dinner jared can't pronounce the words anymore hey i'm two for two man i'm two for two you're good uh this this word is interesting i have words about this word write them down and submit them to me I can't say it until our definitions are out there. Okay. Oh, by the way, Adam, did you LLM that last one? I haven't LLM'd anything, man. Okay. I can do that. You're running out of time, dude. Am I allowed to do that? You get one. You get one pass. Oh, my gosh. I should do this soon. So I mute myself when I'm typing because I have this gnarly clickety-clacker.
1:16:20and uh when i do type i get the little notification hey uh are you trying to speak if you're trying to speak you're muted right now i'm like no i'm typing i prefer just to hear the clickety-clacks man all right let's get them click click click click click click click but now i have to do some thinking before now i know when you're not typing too we silently judge you. I think if you were really paying attention, you could notice like how long was I typing? You could guess which. I wouldn't put it past David. I think he's playing to win here. He's probably going to listen to your typing. He has those big over-ear headphones on to really get.
1:17:02Matthew also has headphones. Literally, literally. The majority of people in this chat. I know, I know, I know, I know. It's not lost on me. I mean, mine are open back, so I still hear. Oh, okay. Yes. Oh, wow. Yeah, I got to hear my dog's barking or my wife is calling me. Yep. I hear my dog barking. I'm going to take her for a walk. Can I change my answer for the Steve Jobs one?
1:17:31What do you want?
1:17:35I don't know. I just wondered if I could. There's a lot. Yeah, go for it. Okay.
1:17:45Steve Jobs net worth gives Adam another point yeah I know right here we go I did get this is relevant to changelog I did get this book before it came out I got the not for resale before it came out yeah that's a contradiction dude you can't get something before it comes out that's not true if you know the right people. Did you? I had it before he wrote it, so. You had it before he wrote it? Yeah, well, you gotta know the right people. No, this is, it says, these proofs are not to be quoted for publication. You just published it, dude. You're on a podcast. The book's out. The book came out. It says on the back when the book actually comes out.
1:18:36It already came out. Everyone can buy it now. Did you hear about the sequel to that book? called constipation. No, you haven't. It hasn't come out yet. That's a good one. Bravo. I hate that I love that, but that's pretty good. He hates that he loves it. That's a good one. Such is life.
1:19:05Six definitions for Brobding Nagian. Number one. purposefully accelerating civilization collapse. Number two, having to do with the sport of brobsledding.
1:19:23Number three. Alright Taylor. We got it. We got it.
1:19:31Number three. A fictional area in the Golden Sun video game where the characters face the toughest enemies. Number four a matrix of fourth derivatives number five cousin to the backyard against Malik Zara love to play in the front yard you're not helping anything with that imagine themselves on fantastic adventures that's awesome that's amazing and number five or sorry number six marked by tremendous size. Marked by tremendous size. Okay. Six definitions. Good news for you, Adam. You get to go last. You're safe. Taylor has to go first this round. Taylor, what do you think is brobding Negian? I do just want to give a shout out real quick to the backyardigans.
1:20:31I've been watching that show with my daughter and it's got some fire tracks. Oh yeah, man. oh yeah k-brob demon hunters oh that's a good one uh so it's between so it's between uh brobsledding that was that was a very good one whoever did that's very clever uh brobsledding and it could be the real answer you don't know you act like you did it like brobsledding is not real or something uh yeah i think i like the first one the last one it sounded the most legit yeah they did okay the last one was size yeah tremendous size tremendous size no that's too on the nose what was the first one the first one was purposefully accelerating civilizational collapse nah that's too that's too smart for me what about let's pick the last one size Size.
1:21:35He's going for size. Size does matter for Taylor Thomas. Size. Size? Big? Or size? Which size? Marked by tremendous size. He's asking about a homonym. What'd you call me?
1:21:57S-I-Z-E. It's spelled S-I-Z-E. yeah civilization so accelerating civilization collapse correct rob sledding which rob sledding is i mean it sounds really good um you have the golden sun video game a matrix of fourth derivatives yes the backyard against cousin to the backyard against cousin to the backyard against yeah ticknickian marked by tremendous size uh it's dark but i'll do the acceleration of civilization collapse. Okay. We go to Matthew. The summary of each of them was, let me think of I remember this. Mark Peterman's size one. Thomas, collapse of civilization that he just picked. Brobsledding.
1:22:49Brobsledding, backyardigans or something? Correct. Golden Sun something? Yes. And a matrix of fourth derivatives. A matrix of fourth derivatives. Correct. As in math, I guess? No, these are programming languages that derive from fourth. Boo. That's a homonym. That is a homonym. Wow. I'm actually not sure. Rob, Rob, Ding, Rob, I can't say that. Rob Ding, Nagian. Rob Ding, Nagian. Robert Ding, Nagian. It sounds like a thing rather than like a status or like a description of something. sounds like an actual thing like a noun yeah exactly like it's a name somebody that's somebody hanging out yeah it's like the it's the name of a location or something or it's a name of something like you call someone this you know what i mean like right you are such like it's a slur okay so i have to let me not the backyard again thing not the other rob sledding one collapsing of society i don't think so and then there's three more marked by tremendous size that's an adjective and then you have the matrix of four derivatives which would be a noun so i've narrowed down to what golden sun and size golden sun and size well size is not i'm not gonna help you that's not what i'm saying it's not a it's not a noun just you're leaning no i agreed but like every every other ones i don't like the other okay fine whatever one you want uh can you read the golden Sun one please can you revolted them a fictional area in the Golden Sun video game where the characters face the toughest enemies and then marked by tremendous size fictional area I like that it clarifies that it is a fictional area in the video game yeah like there's real areas and there's fictional areas yeah like Grand Theft Auto is like real areas in a fictional game you know right or tony hawks pro skater like you're on burnside but you're not actually there by the way thomas thomas a video game is just a really fun movie really fun movie so choose your own adventure book i feel like there's an escalation of fun that i'm just missing out on i think i kind of have to pile on here because yeah i don't nothing really names nothing really names the video game.
1:25:21Why would a definition name something? I don't know. I mean like Metaverse? Yeah, I guess. I'll pile on to the size one because I don't believe it's a society collapse. Alright, Matthew is with Taylor on size. David? You are so I don't know. So I don't know if there's like a word like Manichean which is like a way that people construct a world worldview that's kind of binary between good and evil and so that's one way in which that could be like the that could be related there are my different like my linear algebra is very rusty so I feel like there are some named matrices but I don't remember if that's one of them we have a couple of obviously ridiculous ones sorry did it did it specify what video game yeah golden sun golden sun is that a game like is that a popular game i don't know i haven't heard of it myself okay but i'm not a gamer very much i just play rocket league enormous size it has it is kind of a like big feeling word you know yeah and and thus regrettably he's piling on yeah it's happening it's happening i i i'm not quite convinced by any of the others so so matthew and taylor are tied with 11 and you have or sorry matthew has 11 you and taylor are tied with 10 and so all you are picking the same one yeah no i mean like there's no there there's not a i don't i don't think there's a strategically better move to make than attempting to pick the correct thing like it's it's basically like going to yeah well let's see what happens all right let's see what happens so what's up you're up man oh my gosh i i'm gonna have to have you read them all again for me well you can just pile on dude you're going last i don't want to go last though this time i want to go wait i do whatever else is already gone this is cool how could you not go you're first and then you're last i can't take you anywhere what is it there was a there was a there was a there was a book a little blue truck move it bud i'm first you're last that's what he says okay okay fine i'll you know default answer um i guess i guess i'll pull i'll pile on okay he's power after much i was thinking about you know having you read one of them at least but i'm not gonna do that well let's start with the only guy who went his own way yeah just like the old song you can go your own way but it's gonna be a lonely day thomas it's a lonely day sitting over there on taylor's purposefully accelerating civilizational collapse one point for taylor which just had like it had you already said accelerating like that's acceleration you did it you fully did it accelerationism accelerationism and then everybody else just piled onto marked by tremendous size which is an adjective even though matthew was looking for nouns he couldn't find one it feels like a place and uh that's because brobding nag is a place it's a fictional place in gulliver's travels where gulliver goes and uh the people in brobding nag are marked by tremendous size and so they there you go robding naggians and so everybody who picked that gets two i just think of like the spider-man movie when he lands in like the netherlands or something where are you and he like says the name of the town and it's like some i don't know what language they really speak there but it was it reminds me of that word what language they speak there i don't know what is the town name a couple of shout outs i have no idea what you're referring to i'm gonna get it i'm gonna get it all right you think a couple of shout outs backyard again that was adam uh golden son was matthew um does anybody know golden son besides yourself, Matthew?
1:29:40I know, I played it. It was a good game. Okay. And then, of course, the brobsledding was Thomas, which was funny because somebody immediately thought Taylor wrote that one. But Taylor said it was too smart for him or something. I'm surprised no one chose the Brabartigans. Whatever they're called. What a shame. Brabdenagians. Brabdenagians, yeah. So after six rounds of play, We do have winners. We also have hard stops. So we'll have to decide what we're going to do here because people have won. Taylor and Matthew both have 13 points, putting them over the 12-point threshold. David has 12, putting them at the 12-point threshold.
1:30:23So we can end the game with a two-way tie for first. I know that Thomas has to wrap. I think everybody has dinner to have at a certain point. We can call it. We can continue. We can go without Thomas. we can just I'm not gonna win this one so I can I can back out go walk my dog let's talk to our our two guys tied for first place Taylor and Matthew how would you like to proceed I don't have a preference we can tie it we can tie break it we can whatever I have more rounds in my back pocket so that's not a problem let me think I am super hungry
1:31:04let's just call it a two-way tie for first oh boy we've been playing a long time so let's just congratulate our two winners oh all right i thought you were gonna say something oh yeah sorry i think i lagged i was gonna say or we flip a coin right like oh flip a coin i have an idea you both see go back and forth who can name more words and whoever runs out of words first loses i would definitely lose that one easily sounds like counting from one to a million yeah one two three is you don't have another tiebreaker thing that we can do jared i'm thinking you do you can do a live google thing i do have another google round we could just have the two of you where we just guess we both just like guess on three or something and whoever's guess is higher in the google rank wins or something on the fly oh my goodness ask google to generate a number between zero and one we could also do that all right i'm pulling up right now who's a changelog plus plus subscriber no just kidding oh yeah no just kidding okay so So I'm going to pull up Google.
1:32:20I'm going to start typing in autocomplete. I'm going to stop. And then you guys will guess until somebody hits the top autocomplete and the person who hits it wins. You guys cool with that? Sure. All right. I have typed Bill Gates space. Not space needle, but a literal blank character. Bill Gates space. And the first one to hit it wins. so how do we we'll start with the changelog++ member who's Matthew but I'm not a changelog++ member oh shoot I thought you were I thought I was too but I just listen so much we start with Taylor I'm now offended by Matthew I'll start with Taylor yeah David is one but he's also missing a point yeah we'll start with Matthew I'm not easily offended go ahead man it's better though all right so just say one yeah what do you think bill gates autocompletes to net worth it's on there but it's not number one okay taylor feet is it bill gates versus godzilla that that should probably be up in the top five no let's go with uh bill gates it's feet man the blank's already in there what keeps on coming up to me is like the bill gates epstein situation because there was a tie there or something in Bill Gates Epstein to be real topical maybe.
1:33:49Okay. Okay. Nope. Matthew. Good try. What is Bill Gates even? What is he known for now anymore? Who cares to Google him? He was in the news recently. Was he in the news recently? Yeah. I don't care about Bill Gates. I don't either. I just know he's in the news. What does he do? Isn't he like involved in like farm stuff now? He's bought a bunch of farmland. That's what I thought. David's chomping the bit because he knows he knows what this is about and he's like I was one point away I could be in this the Andrew's feet yeah okay you're missing out Bill Gates feet I feel like if it's not worth I'd laugh if it was like the other one what was the other Google one I would laugh if it was the same thing the same Google thing because you put two names right Steve Jobs daughter Bill Gates daughter okay I think I would guess isn't he a big proponent of like I don't even know give me a timer count down something it'll force something out of me three two one climate change doesn't he do something with farms and climate change Bill Gates climate change ding ding ding ding you got it man Bill Gates climate change Matthew Pulling it out of nowhere is our winner.
1:35:15David knew that one. My wife told me a bunch that he bought up a lot of farmland and was trying to do these things. He was in the news recently because he commented on climate change. I can't remember what he said, but it seems like he had softened his position or he said it's not going to kill everybody or something. We're just going to have to learn to live with it. Really? Yeah. Oh my God. That's wild. All right. Well, it was a weird tiebreaker, but it was a tiebreaker nonetheless. And Taylor, I'm sorry, but Matthew just eked you out. David, was that what you were going to guess was climate change or did you have something else up your sleeve?
1:35:50I was, the other thing that was like relatively newsy about him recently would have been something about like, I think the last thing he said was something about how people can't expect his donations to step in for all the work the federal government isn't doing anymore. So it would have been something about that. Or his foundation. I wanted to say foundation, but like if net worth wasn't there, I figured foundation wasn't going to be up any higher. Can I change my answer to Bill Gates net worth? Can I do that? Sure. on the Steve Jobs question or are you on this one now? Can you read the ones that were there?
1:36:26Bill Gates climate change, number one. Bill Gates net worth. Bill Gates climate change pivot, number three. Bill Gates daughter. I don't even know, does he have a daughter? Bill Gates daughter is number four. That's hilarious. Yeah, and then you get into Bill Gates age, Bill Gates memo climate change, Bill Gates wife, and then you get down to Bill Gates quotes. I feel like daughter and wife are always, no matter what, like. I think people are just curious. Like, does this person have a daughter? Exactly. yeah yeah dude now i just need to grow my blog big enough where people are searching taylor trosh daughter wife you know that's that's when you know you make it you know yeah yeah let me pull up my google thing now oh gosh what are people saying this is funny the number one is taylor trosh which i already typed then taylor trosh linkedin and then did taylor and taylor date oh that's a good one and then taylor smith taylor history so it's just moving yeah it's just how far is taylor town i think that's a good question where is taylor town is it in prob ding dang dude i don't get close i don't get any uh autocompletes i'm not famous yeah me either taylor's the coolest one so i have a confession to make what's that and i'm super sad about it i was uh you know like when you when you play spades or you got really good cards at the wild card when you're playing uno you know and you wait and you're like oh this is is this a good time to use my my good thing right yeah i just waited too long i never used the llm so sad about that i was gonna use it when i thought i had you know a good score to get right at the very end like a trump card kind of thing yeah sadly i failed well we'll let you hold on to that for the next time you play so i can get two next time about that two lms sure sure i'll give you two i like it anyways does does matt get a free changelog plus plus uh subscription for winning that's right yep well tell him where it's at and then it's that's free information changelog.com slash plus plus they say it's better all right y 'all thanks for playing this has been too much fun i feel like it was too competitive almost too conservative because of the competition level we got to bring in some more loosey-goosey folks who are willing to guess the funny ones but uh you all are invited back as well and uh matthew the champion of champions i mean how's it feel i feel with my hands thanks no uh it feels good we should we should definitely change the rules of pylons though it's easy to pile on so like you're hedging your bet really really well it is the smart choice right we should we should think about that just think about fixing that the problem is yeah there needs to be more better answers because then you'll pile on the wrong one and i'll get some points but so yeah like the the rob ding ding ding in something like every it's not that i think it was the size but like every other answer was was wrong and then i was left between my answer so it's really the right answer it's really your guys's fault is my point you know yeah it is we're not we're insufficiently creative so this one was actually tough to be more funny too like i usually come up with more funny stuff so listeners i could probably disappoint them a little bit yeah yeah except for me the backyard against uh cousin version yeah that was cool i like that one yeah i was waiting for you to read it jared i want to see your face taylor played it way straighter than he normally does you know i think he was really trying to win normally his answers are just preposterous but uh a lot of a lot of good answers coming out of taylor yeah i think i mean the other the other way to sort of rebalance the game is to because is to if if everyone has to choose simultaneously like the results so you know you kind of submit them essentially like yeah so right so that we're not actually here the logic yeah yeah because thomas was really picking it apart and giving all of his logic out early and he actually did logic his way to the right answer but then everyone just like, yeah, I'm going to go with that one.
1:40:25So, yeah. Most people hold those thoughts inside and just guess, I think. But he was really explaining his thoughts, which I appreciate as a guy just listening, you know, but you guys apparently appreciate it as well. He had some good definitions, too. He just, like, repeated the words, like, water, water, accelerate, accelerate it, yeah. By the way, to our listeners, Thomas had a bounce. That's why we're talking about him and not talking to him. It'd be weird if he was still here and we're just talking about him. It's kind of weird talking about him with a knot here. but shout out to Thomas. Excellent.
1:40:56Excellently played round of pound to fine. And I thought everybody played well. Thanks for joining us guys. Yeah. My friends. Bye Taylor. Bye Matthew. Bye David. Bye Thomas. Bye me. We'll see if we can get Carol to come up and kick all your guys' butts next time around. Come on Carol. Get back over here. Carol. Carol Lee. PhD. Bye y 'all. Bye. There you have it. Our seventh iteration of pound to fine. If you like these game show style episodes that we sprinkle in from time to time, you can find them all at changelog.com slash topic slash games. There's also a Spotify playlist. If that's your bag, it's called Dev Game Shows.
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On this seventh iteration of our award-worthy game show filled with obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery: past winners battle to determine the champion of champions. (Also, Adam.)

