It's a peccadillo circus (Friends)

38:06If you're a GPU maker, you're getting into CPU making. NVIDIA has CPUs coming out, and Intel has GPUs coming out. So, like, they're flip-flopping, right? So, what's the other thing out there that's maybe going to do this? Raspberry Pi. and an SBC style GPU that attaches to these other smaller things would be totally cool. Yeah, it would be cool. If they do it within a year, should we come back and take Jared's points off him then? Yeah, I think so. I'll concede those points. Well, they're going to hear this, right? They're going to hear this. Right, this is pretty much like market research for them.

38:42We should totally be doing this. Like, let's get rid of these agent floppy disks that we were thinking about. Yeah. And let's do these SBC style GPUs. Yeah, that's good. I think we should take a moment to mourn that eight-inch floppy... Oh, it's happened. Whoops. It's happened. Freudian slip. Eight-inch floppy disk. It's happened. Try it again. It's a family show, Matt. It's a family show. Normally, I'm the one that has to be told that. Floppy disk manufacturer, you know, that company that had the contract forever. That they could just keep selling their floppy disks to the government at some astronomical price, you know?

39:26After probably 40 years of that one big contract, they finally had to stop printing money and get a real job. How many, what's the N plus on the floppy disks do you think they had? N plus? Yeah, like how many in reserve do you think they had to have to ensure the US arsenal, the US nuclear arsenal was, you know, safe? How many floppy disks? Well, they probably didn't think they were going to need it until recent events. And then they're like, you know, we actually should make sure this stuff works. Let's get a hundred behind this. N plus a hundred, you know? Yeah. We got the one in the drive. We're safe.

40:06Then we got 99 others sitting over there waiting just in case. I wonder what's on the disk then. Like a code, you think? Or like a key, like a GPG key or something like that. Got to be, isn't it? Not going to be like source code for the missiles or something. Let's, yeah, let's speculate this system. What could it actually do? Yeah. If it ran on this hardware, like, is it running? Is the program, is it like a USB version of a software that runs on the USB, but instead it runs on the floppy? Well, it used to boot off of a floppy, so maybe it's actually like the, boots into memory? Right. It boots into memory and then runs off the memory.

40:45All right. Right, so this floppy gets put in, the program is accessible, it boots into memory, boom goes the us arsenal. Yeah. Nuclear arsenal. Yeah, probably that. So the 8-inch floppy originally stored 80 kilobytes in 1971, and then it went up to 256, eventually maxing out at 1.2 megabytes. The 5.25 introduced in 1976, single-sided, single density, 160K. and then they figured out double density 360k eventually they did a double sided double density 720k and then double sided high density 1.2 megabytes so they finally made their way back up to the 8 inch maybe this is why the u.s nuclears are just like we're cool with the 8 inch man three and a half inch introduced in 1980 started at 720k double sided high density 1.44 that's the most common and then extra high density 2.88 megabytes this is making me think of a museum is there a place in the world where there's like a technology museum that isn't somebody's random basement or some weird absolutely there is there is yeah we were there i don't know if we're sure if we were there in the building together adam but i've been there it's in the valley in san diego right i mean san jose yeah it's called the computer history museum is that what it's called it's really cool i thought we were there together adam maybe i was there with somebody were we there together maybe we were i think we were it must be ancient history then uh well there is no ancient computer history because computers aren't ancient we haven't been to san francisco together i would say in about eight years it feels like at least six yeah if you go to computerhistory.org yes the computer history they have they have actually a pretty cool instagram as well that i've checked out where they still post stuff regularly and they have new stuff coming in i'm trying to find the actual address of the place to confirm you're saying it's in san diego it's in mountain view i think we're there together adam mountain view california so i didn't know i've been to mountain view was that when we were out to see user testing maybe yeah that might be right my brain was a little scattered we were doing something brand new with high stakes so what weed yeah totally that's what i can't remember i said high stakes oh wait that still works oh yeah it's just a steakhouse oh wait that's like the dispensary yeah high stakes is where you go afterwards yeah uh yeah i did have some other raspberry pi lies okay let's hear them do we need a theme tune for raspberry pi lies raspberry pi lies writes itself it does doesn't it really let's see if it does what key should it be in you pick a key any key a p it should be in p oh that's not one that's not one how about uh a minor yeah uh that's a minor what do you think adam higher or lower

43:50uh higher always as you know he likes high stakes

43:57I want my Raspberry Pi lies, baby, feed them to me. I want to think that they're making GPUs or gonna sell themselves to China. Tell me where we're gonna be in a thousand years' time. But tell me through Raspberry Pi lies. Well, they weren't really full-on lies. They were more like directions that I didn't flesh out. So I was thinking, uh, I was thinking, uh, drones, like a Pico drone, like make your own drone from a pie. Uh huh. Like a Pico drone. Yeah. I want that. And then I was thinking like, like something solar because I was like, well, you know, these things are so small. You want them to be in obscure places.

44:54Yeah. Like what if I wanted to switch like a WRT switch that's running open source stuff that's not like power accessible? I have a battery maybe or like a power pack. What if it was solar power powered, you know? So I was thinking like something solar that direction. Yeah. That's about it. I'd have gone for the US military disks if you'd said either of those two. That's true. Then I was thinking, well, GPU, that's in the headlines now. it's CES recent so there you go the challenge with solar is you need so much surface area well if it's small though like let's say if it's sub 5 watts which is what it would probably be like probably sub 2 watts it's just a switch and maybe wifi how much surface area do you need for that probably not much I mean the size of a Pi probably Pi Solar could you imagine this Pi Solar Raspberry Pi if you're not listening to this podcast for ideas should be yeah you should be yeah i mean here you go i like the drone idea i kind of want a phone case that's got that on it so i can if i do find i've lost my phone around the flat i can press a button on my watch yeah and it just flies to me yeah that'd be cool i mean it might slice some people on the way well there's some really small drones out there so i'm back uh i want to say about six about six or so years ago maybe seven years ago i got into like the early days of drones right they're expensive they still kind of are expensive now but there was these really small ones you could buy on amazon and they're like tiny like little toy things something that'd be kind of cool to build a drone from a pie but you probably can do that already you know all you need is a case and a compute and then i suppose servos and stuff like that to do the motors yeah i just need a good old fast fan yeah yeah one fan go up i see ya what's next is this show just based on truths and lies is there more well we finished haven't we yeah i won is this a show did you jerry you wouldn't that didn't you i would say that uh i should get some points too because you know i you know i let you in yeah alright you can have some of Matt's points yeah I mean I don't need them he's not going to use them I can't spend them in this country the exchange rate is terrible for points on game shows that's why you don't get many Brits appearing on American shows we should have prizes and then just give them to me at the end yeah if you win what can we give as a prize well I tell you what Jared you can master this episode how about that it'd be fun I can do that it'll be fun you know put him some applause and congratulations sounds maybe like that confetti like the you know that one yeah we should reach out to loopback though and rogamiba to see if they want to sponsor the show they should we should have an episode that's just white noise until the check clears that's right yeah this show brought to you by rogamiba brought to you by you know it's a shame it's that sound it could have been a lovely little ditty or you know a snoop dog track i'll tell you what licensing fees you know i do think it'd be kind of cool to augment whatever's being done and like if you were speaking now you're not matt now you're snoop dog like you said you know or they could do the charlie brown parent thing like you just aren't wah wah wah that would actually be pretty cool that'd actually be kind of funny yeah good marketing because you could probably use it you know like an unintended consequence like next thing you know like right or bad marketing because people won't upgrade they're just like i want the charlie brown sound that's right so good and where'd you get that well this free trial of rogamyba software called loopback just go get it it's free that'd be cool that's good marketing more ideas for these people holy boy i know well you're an idea guy oh man have you or someone you know been a victim of identity theft maybe you've been harassed on the internet maybe you've been stocked, maybe you've been doxxed.

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51:21One other thing we could talk about was just to throw some flowers at Matt. In addition to your amazing piano skills, I hear you recently won an award yourself, didn't you? I did, yeah. Can you tell us about this? Is this true or is it a lie? No, this is true. I couldn't believe it. I was going to have you tell the story and have Adam guess, but you've already ruined it. This is true. Well, I've said it's true. I mean, if I was lying, that is what I would say, to be fair. that is true if i have ruined it it is true yeah it's completely ruined go ahead tell us a story this is like uh now this was the open uk uh which is an organization that uh works and celebrates um open source software and i think because of um a little package i wrote with a friend of mine called testify you may have heard of it have you heard of it adam i do declare it's a version of testifying that is declaring testifying has voided the answer cool well you know i've heard of it matt have you well from you on go time yeah i don't stop banging on about it to be honest yeah you just won't shut up about it yeah actually well i found out from jonathan amsterdam from the the go team at google it's the most imported package go package in the world by about three times or something wow so it's like an assertion package that helps you you know assert equal write some tests yeah it helps with your testing doesn't go have that stuff built in well it deliberately doesn't and what you what you're told to do really by the go team is to write native go code and that's your test and there's nothing new for someone to learn you don't want to do that well i just wasn't used to it um and i was used to these assertion library and it you know it turns out i mean it's the you know it's the third most imported go oh it's the most imported go package by three times or whatever turns out i think people want that but there's a there's a weird little rub around when you pass variables into methods in certain cases it can change and so you don't really want that happening if you're in your test suite stuff is that called shadowing or something like this i don't know honestly um okay it's like a go piccadilly or is this like a programming thing it's a go specific piccadilly yeah yeah yeah did i use that word right i have no idea i doubt it uh probably not i've been using words wrong all day yeah maybe you meant piccadilly which is perhaps yellow sauce it's not that either but it's real yellow and not computer fake computer yellow unless you're seeing it on a computer yeah i can't you can't be trusted any longer you've been telling these you can't trust yellow no no i'm just googling piccadilly see if it's a real thing it's a place in in london there's an area oh that's right it's like a square yeah isn't it a square no it's a circus what's a circus it's a circus is where the elephants are yeah so there's a circus in london called piccadilly piccadilly that's and this is where like elephants stand on their two heels and then the lions jump through yeah it's very popular tourist attraction is it a circle i think it's not really like much of a circle but it probably was originally okay is that what a circus is a circle i've only put that together talking to you now i mean i always say the u.s audience here we don't know what a circus is unless it's you know barnum and bailey's that's the best circus in the world that's right so you're not doing a very good job explaining why piccadilly is a circus no i i can't help it you also call it a place a place So we're very confused.

54:52Matt, Adam, are you confused? I'm also confused, but something else. So I'm at this, tell me if you know this URL, okay? GitHub.com. I do. Yep, yep. Slash. Oh, hold on. Strictor. Say what? Nearly. Does that ring a bell to you, Matt? Stretcher. Stretcher. Oh, is this Testify? Yeah. That's the company that we, that's the startup that we had when we made Testify. so we put it in the company name not my own personal name uh now i'd be world famous had i you already are you won an open source award oh yeah i forgot i didn't finish telling you that i got a medal they sent me a medal what color was it uh golden oh golden that's that's first place gold it's first yeah i think everyone gets that though it wasn't like a race but there you go so yeah it was the open uk honors new year's honors list and genuinely it is quite nice to get that normally i don't win things like that but quite honored to get it really what do you think is that stretcher.com spelt this funny way s-t-r-e-t-c-h-r.com what do you think is there well i know that we let the domain expire and someone else got it so yeah that's why i was confused i think what do these folks have to do with testify for go because it's a it's a stretching company like you go there and you get stretched what's that so i was thinking like matt what is going on with your software what did you write this for to be stretched well originally this was like a mongodb style api so for web and app developers you'd be able to just start posting data to restful endpoints they didn't have to exist and it would create the restful uh you know the data it would just persist it and then when you get it and get the list it would all just work so that was the idea for app for make development quicker and gives you like a back end um so kind of like a schema list data store thing and the idea was describing what your idea was not this stretching idea they've got yeah i see you've said it sounds like they're going to stretch you like yeah they're doing something different altogether does it but we i need to make sure that that domain name is not on the project.

57:11It is. That's how I found it. It's on the GitHub organization. I'm going to go and change that. Yeah. I would definitely change that because that's confusing. I don't think anybody cares. I guess actually three times as many other folks who download or install any packages or whatever you call them in their Go programs and software care. But they're not on your org looking at what URL goes back to the source for Stretcher. No, but it is a concern. And I checked the emails to make sure that there were no emails that were, you know. I would do this, though. I would first email these folks at the new Stretcher, and I will let them know that you've been promoting their stuff for a few years now and that there's royalties to be paid.

58:01Okay, yeah. Yeah, I'd let them know that first prior to doing it Take a screenshot and share that with them. And then say, I've since stopped, but you owe me back pay. Maybe I could take that payment in stretches. So they could just come and just. That's right. I'm willing to barter. I could use a stretch. Or a body stretch. Can I close the loop on Picadillos? Please do. Have you guys ever seen the movie Good Will Hunting? Yeah, at least once. So Robin Williams' character, Sean, tells Will this story about how his wife farts in her sleep. oh yeah she farts and will cracks up about it it's he she sometimes she farts so loud she woke herself up oh right yeah yeah i've done that and they're laughing about it and sean says uh that's the stuff that i remember because she's died she's dead right right and that's not a spoiler because that's like the start of the plot so trailer spoiler can you have a trailer spoiler it's probably in the trailer trailer spoiler okay and he and he says you know that's the stuff i remember you know the fact that she farted in her sleep which is funny and he says little things like that yeah but those are the things i miss the most the little idiosyncrasies that only i knew about that's what made her my wife when she had the goods on me too she knew all my little peccadillos and he goes on from there he's referring to idiosyncrasies and he uses the word peccadillos and i just assumed that that was a word but i can't find that word anywhere else except for when Robin Williams said it.

59:36As you two were talking about stretching or something. I'm not sure what you guys were talking about. How would you spell that in your version of it, Jared? Well, I spelled it like Piccadillo Square. Or sorry, Circus. Or Circle. And that was wrong. But according to this website here called WikiQuote, it's spelled P-E-C-C-A-D-I-L-L-O-S. You sort of know what it means, even though it's not a word. You totally know what it means. actually it is a word i was probably just spelling it wrong all right a small sin or a fault a slight trespass or offense a petty crime a trifling fault so that's what i was talking about with go you know it was like this little sin of go right shadowing variables and stuff come on and not having built-in test assertions yeah well the go team actually testify is banned at google at google i can excuse oh is it and you don't use it anymore i know that yeah i do use it because there's lots of projects that use it but not in new stuff yeah i don't because um i just have a smaller version which is on my own github just called is and it's just like three or four methods the the you know testify has so much power in it it's one of those things where if you're a pro user and you're doing a lot of testing testifies for you and it's super popular so probably a bunch of people came by and added their own little peccadillos yeah and they fixed it so now there's armadillos in it everything all kinds of dillows yeah um yeah so many dillows we did have the policy we had a policy of anybody that contributed a pr was added to the project so this was like an experiment really which i probably regret only because it meant that it just blew and it blew up it ballooned the api is enormous now did they get awards too or what happened there did you even mention them who oh mention who exactly exactly i don't know who i've slandered there because i genuinely didn't hear it yeah did you matt when you took this open source award this medal this gold medal yeah did you mention all the little people that helped you along the way like all these contributors the picadillos yeah of course i did i mean i didn't give a speech anywhere but i said it i said it to myself out loud in the mirror oh there wasn't a speech this wasn't like an award show or something no it's just oh man i was hoping to like you know put the footage up and stuff that'd be nice well we could make that let's do it right now let's you should do an acceptance speech that you could send to them oh that's a lot of pressure this is good you can say i would have improvised it anyway matt here is your award for being great in open source go wow thank who do you want to thank i just want to thank all the little people first um they're tiny or they're really far away either way but they helped you know and you don't have to have contributed a lot to open source like i have with testify the most important project in the world i think jared was there were your words maybe you know but thank you very much for this uh lovely medal and um you know i'd like to thank thank all my family as well i'm holding it because it came on a ribbon so i'm just holding it up um yeah and you know keep open sourcing everyone bye that sort of thing that's our thing yeah not bad yeah now if you had to do that in song yeah for instance yeah what would that sound like i'd only have one hand because i'm holding the medal we'll just go strong hand only okay hold my strong hand hold my strong hand

1:03:09I want to thank all the little people. I don't know why you're so tiny. But you helped me make this project by tapping things in on your tiny keyboard. Oh, baby, one day you'll be big. Thank you for my award Thank you for my award Thank you for my lovely medal Speaking of medals Jer, were you referencing like I was Scary Movie 2? At which point? When you said take my strong hand No, I was laughing at you because I know you said that previously during a Pound of Fine game after Taylor Trosh gave you that little hand at Strange Loop. That's right. And you held the little hand up and you said like take my strong hand.

1:04:16That's what I was laughing because I knew that was a callback and I knew Matt didn't know that was a callback so I was also laughing for that reason. Still got it. I still got my hand. He still has his. It's there. There it is. Take my strong hand. So this is a scary movie too. quote it's actually a mandela effect oh it's not actually in there yeah people largely i'm talking like a massive population strongly emphatically believe that he said take my strong hand who in the in the movie i'd have to show the clip i don't know the person's name but he actually said what take my little hand why the hell think you said strong then exactly mandela effect bro but why i don't know why mandela effect happens it just does huh yeah a lot of people believe i mean there's a lot of people who like i believe it i remember that you just told us he said that like five minutes ago i know but he didn't the truth is that he said take my little hand huh you take my little hand.

1:05:26I didn't know a lot of people watched that movie and had commentary on it. It's a lot of people. Yeah, it's a very popular unpopular film. I mean, it's a scary movie too. Yeah, exactly. Come on. It's a sequel. That's exactly my point. You're making my point for me. Come on now. I could imagine you saying, you know, when Darth Vader says, Luke, I am your father. He never says that. Well, that's a shame, honestly. And that's a shame. That's what everybody thinks he says. Why? So why does everybody else believe that? It's Mandela effect mandela effect because it's kind of like what he should have said if george lucas was a slightly better writer i love that compression though right like you don't have to explain anything besides mandela effect that's just it that's right that's the the beauty of memes and compression but mandela did exist right he's not part of the mandela effect is he well he's the inventor of it unbeknownst to him are we talking about nelson mandela who are we talking about Nelson Mandela.

1:06:19Yeah. So to my knowledge, this is what I know about it. The Mandela effect came about because there was a large, again, a large population of people who emphatically believed that he had passed away years before he did not pass away. So he passed away much later, truthfully. But people believed he had died many, many years before that. And there's a lot of people. And they're like, I remember seeing the headline. I remember seeing the news reports, et cetera, et cetera. Meanwhile, he did not. And so this birthed this, I suppose, the name to the phenomenon that seems to have happened throughout history where you, a large population, misremembers or has memory of an alternate dimension.

1:07:02Oh, right. Now, if you go back to the. Oh, right. Like that was just a totally normal thing to say. What's the thing? I'm trying to remember what the. Somebody else would be a scientist here would know what I'm talking about. It's the, there's a place over in your area, Matt, in the European region, I suppose, where they have like this. In CERN? Yeah, CERN, this collider. Yeah, yeah. Tell me, what's it called again? The CERN Particle Accelerator. CERN Particle Accelerator. There you go. It's Particle Accelerator. I like the way he says it. So they believe that when this began to happen, it started to create fractures in timelines and like alternate realities.

1:07:39Now, I don't know how plausible this is, but it's crazy as all get out there, right? Like you're smashing particles together and you're rippling time and space and whatever. And Mandela effect. There you go. I should have called it the Jimmy Carter effect, you know, because I thought he was dead a long time ago. Me too. Turns out he made it to 100. That's why tomorrow I'm not celebrating. I'm saying, you know, like everybody's going to mourn. I'm like, listen, the guy had a good life. He died twice. Yeah. I witnessed one of these. There was a guy. He still is a guy called Frances Campoy who was big in the Go community.

1:08:12um i think he works at apple now yeah um he's great i love him actually um i should text him probably yeah anyway uh text him right now uh yeah and then while you do that sing and accepted a medal so we never finish your story we were in after some go conference he was talking about seeing freddie mercury in barcelona and my friend david anandez who i did machine box project with he was like yes i was there i saw that too and it turns out there was and then there was a guy there who was a big nerd on queen and freddie mercury and he said no it can't have been because he died the year before well they were like no no no no it was and and so yeah they they they had they had it the mandela effect that's one of those moments where you think that perhaps you're in great harm you know like you're in harm's way do you well it's like it's like a twist at the end where you're Like, wait a second, the call's coming from inside the house?

1:09:11Oh, yeah. Like, it couldn't possibly be, he's been dead for years. And you're like, because, you know, you just had lunch with him, for instance. Right. And you have the refrigerator door open, and as soon as you close it, ah, jumpscare. And his hook is hanging on the rearview mirror of your truck. I knew what you did last summer. I knew it. I know what I knew. So, Freddy. Exactly. Oh, my gosh. Oh, the two Fs. Oh, yeah. both freddies reminds me of a song the one about two r's how'd that go oh no there's no memory there's no memory double i don't remember it either it's actually triple reading writing arithmetic it's good isn't it why is he not singing we keep prompting him to sing but he won't do it you know that kid in on on that movie where bruce willis is dead the whole time trailer spoiler and also in the whole film he's dead he's dead the whole time and then they show you watch the movie at all if you know right right yeah by now you know i think that ship has sailed i'm gonna go back and re-watch that movie actually that's a great movie by the way if my kids are listening to this stop right now actually a few seconds before this because we're gonna watch that together and i don't want them to be spoiled yeah yeah yeah but they love the matt ryer episodes tell them now to stop listening a minute ago i just did but i know dang it it's great i have to go back in time we can edit that yeah you edit myself in in the future actually it's in the past depends on how you think about it okay but yeah good movie i do remember that jared i think you should talk to your kids and not rely on communicating with them through podcast i'll consider it i'll take it under consideration yeah no but the little kid's like i see dead people and it's like yeah everyone can they don't go invisible when you die that's not a film you this is not a film kid and i'd be if i was the bruce willis in that i'd be saying that to him i'd be like what are you talking about mate of course you can see dead people wait uh did you see then who was it it was a comedian that told this story about this film did matt just take his joke and act as if it was his own no no no but it reminds you of it because they said it was oh it was uh nate bregazzi and we love him because he's a very tasteful comedian he doesn't have to cuss or yeah he's clean he's hilarious you know egregious at all he said it was more plausible to the listening and watching audience that his wife didn't want to talk to him than him being dead that was a version of his punchline it was more plausible that this woman was ignoring him for a year the whole film basically ignoring him completely than for him to be dead yeah what a shame no no it's a good point what a shame so here's what I would like to have in life I'd like to have a Matt GBT, which is, of course, a musical intelligence that could answer my beck and call.

1:12:10Like if I had to say like, hey, Matt GBT, could you summarize this podcast? You know, because that because GPTs can summarize, man. Oh, yeah, they're good at that. And sometimes they can summarize in musical fashion if they happen to be a musical Matt GBT. I see. Could I have one of those? Yeah, I think so. OK. What key would you like it in? by the way this is a flex because i'm you say the key and then i really play it in that key and then the listening audience musical people understand this but for me it's just more like stress because i don't know any more keys i already gave you a minor and i don't know the other ones yeah i mean and adam said p that was a joke that was b is that a good one is that the same as a minor no it's not the same c major matt what's the best key for a summary uh that's a good question um probably E flat if we're just being honest which we haven't been well thank you for joining us I hope you had a good time baby cause I know that I did, I had a lovely time

1:13:19now it's time to go and get some R &R take it down, have a relax and play some Super Mario. If you got an ancient floppy disk on you, yeah, then you'll be fine when nuclear war breaks out. And if you want to know how to make it out alive, I suggest you get the slime mold to show you how. This, this is a family show Yeah, but how many kids listen, I don't know Probably not that many Not yet anyway, not yet anyway And now we've had a good time, yeah We're going for some high stakes after this I like high stakes This is my strong hand Take it please Take my strong hand And I'll take you to CERN And we'll discern If they've broken the universe And next time we'll see you On the changelog and friends

1:14:52This is the end

1:15:08And now for some loopback white noise

1:15:20Not bad.

1:15:25Great job, Matt. I actually think now that you've done that white noise, I think they stole that from you. Yeah, I think they ganked your white noise, bro. You should get some licenses from them. Yeah. Bye, friends. Bye, y 'all. Thanks, Matt. Bye. Thank you. Take my strong hand.

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1:17:35Okay, plus plus bonus. Don't go anywhere. Hang on, I don't subscribe to this. Do I have to stop listening? You made that joke last time. No, I didn't. I just texted it to you. Oh, that's very darn it. I said, I'm going to make this joke. Don't ruin it. Don't. call me out. Yeah, don't call me out. Oh, shoot.