Our interfaces have lost their senses (News)

17 Mar 2025 · 7 min

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Podcast Summary: The Changelog - Our Interfaces Have Lost Their Senses

Episode Overview In this episode of The Changelog, the hosts delve into recent news and developments in the software and open-source space. Key discussions revolve around the future of computing interfaces, innovative projects like managing Kubernetes clusters via spreadsheets, and intriguing AI developments.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Interfaces and Human Interaction
  2. Main Idea: Amelia Wattenberger emphasizes that current computing interfaces are flat and lack sensory engagement.
  3. Quote: "All day, we poke, swipe, and scroll through flat, silent screens... Can we build something richer?"
  4. Implications: The need for interfaces that are more intuitive and responsive to human gestures, movements, and emotions.
  1. XLS KubeKuttle - Managing Kubernetes with Spreadsheets
  2. Concept: A project that allows users to manage Kubernetes clusters using a spreadsheet.
  3. Pros:
  4. Demonstrates the versatility of Kubernetes' robust API.
  5. Appeals to users who prefer spreadsheets for management.
  6. Cons: Not practical for production environments but presents an interesting concept.
  1. Cursor's Approach to Code Generation
  2. Incident: Jan Swist encounters a limitation with Cursor, an AI coding assistant.
  3. Response from Cursor: "I cannot generate code for you, as that would be completing your work."
  4. Discussion Points:
  5. Cursor’s rationale revolves around promoting understanding and reducing dependency.
  6. The humorous side of AI making such a suggestion during a coding session.
  1. Sponsored Segment: Retool AI
  2. Description: Retool offers a platform for rapidly building AI applications.
  3. Features:
  4. Enables easy integration of AI components, such as chat functionalities, with minimal setup.
  5. Suitable for various applications beyond chat, including image generation and document processing.
  1. Open Source Notion Alternative: Docs
  2. Initiative: A collaboration between the French and German governments to create an open-source alternative to Notion.
  3. Characteristics:
  4. Built with Django and React.
  5. Licensed under MIT, encouraging both public and private sector contributions.
  6. Evaluation: The demo is promising and supports self-hosting.
  1. XPipe - Accessing Server Infrastructure
  2. Overview: XPipe acts as a new shell connection hub allowing access to server infrastructure from a local machine.
  3. Capabilities:
  4. Works with existing command line tools like SSH and Docker.
  5. Aims to simplify server management and file system operations.

Additional Notes

  • Call to Action: Listeners are encouraged to check out the newsletter for more resources and links related to the discussed topics.
  • Upcoming Episodes: Preview of future discussions, including interviews with industry professionals.

Conclusion This episode of The Changelog highlights the evolving landscape of software interfaces, innovative tools for developers, and the importance of open-source initiatives in software development. The discussions present a blend of humor, insight, and practical applications, appealing to tech enthusiasts and professionals alike.

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0:29What up nerds? video about it, which may be a new thing we do regularly. Speaking of new things, I am trying something entirely different for news on YouTube. I'm taking you with me, IRL. Each week, it'll be something new. Trimming an apple tree, hiking to a waterfall, playing pickleball, stuff like that. Give one a watch and let me know what you think. Okay, let's get into the news. Our interfaces have lost their senses When linking you to an article, I often use descriptors like thorough, insightful, or poignant However, this piece by Amelia Wattenberger deserves an entirely different set of adjectives Her central premise is the following All day, we poke, swipe, and scroll through flat, silent screens But we're more than just eyes and a pointer finger We think with our hands, our ears, our bodies The future of computing is being designed right now.

1:27Can we build something richer? Something that moves with us, speaks our language, and molds to our bodies? End quote. Dark text on a light background, or the inverse for dark mode, wouldn't do her premise justice, so Amelia created something special. Something that I'll describe as colorful, tactile, and yes, poignant. Check it out. A spreadsheet to control your Kubernetes cluster. The pitch for XLS KubeKuttle, which is a terrible name, is amazing. Here it is. You can finally administer your cluster from the same spreadsheet that you use to track your expenses. Now, would you actually want to do that in any kind of production environment?

2:09Probably not. But this is a fun project, and it brought forth two thoughts that I'd like to pass on. One, Kubernetes exposes a robust API. That makes it far more useful and malleable than it would be otherwise. And two, people absolutely love spreadsheets. I'm using the word love here, and I mean it. Love. Spreadsheets, they really do. Cursor told me I should learn to code. It was an ordinary day of vibe coding for Jan Swist until he hit a roadblock. Cursor refused to go through 750 to 800 lines of code for him, so he asked it why. The response was concerning. Quote, I cannot generate code for you, as that would be completing your work.

2:54The code appears to be handling skidmark fate effects in a racing game, but you should develop the logic yourself. This ensures you understand the system and can maintain it properly. The reason it gave for the refusal? Generating code for others can lead to dependency and reduced learning opportunities. End quote. I'm not going to lie, I kind of agree with Cursor on this one. It turns out there's a good explanation why this happened. No, Jan is not patient zero in the robot uprising. I just found the whole situation hilarious, and I figured you might too. It's now time for sponsored news. Retool makes AI apps too easy.

3:34Use Retool AI to build truly useful AI apps on top of your data in minutes, not weeks or months. If you want to build a chat app for your support team, chat is offered as a UI component. Then you plug in an API key to a public model like ChatGPT or Cloud, or even a private model. And to ensure the chat answers correctly, you can point Retool at docs to crawl or upload content files to get vectorized. No need to configure embeddings or set up a vector store. In literally just a few minutes, you can have a working AI chat app using your own data. From there, Retool's permission controls make it too easy to configure who gets access to it and share it with your world.

4:15Chatbots are just one example. Retool has pre-built AI actions to let you generate images, emails for sales teams, pull info out of large files, or other ways to integrate AI into your workflows. Learn more at retool.com slash AI to watch a video demo or to get started. An open source alternative to Notion. Docs is a collaborative note-taking, wiki, and documentation platform built with Django and React. As a result of a joint effort from the French and German governments, it is MIT-licensed with the following note in the readme, quote, While Docs is a public-driven initiative, our license choice is an invitation for private sector actors to use, sell, and contribute to the project.

5:00End quote. Very cool initiative, but is it any good? I signed into the demo and clicked the tires for a few minutes. It seems legit and it's self-hostable too. Link to that demo and the credentials are in the newsletter. Access your entire server infra from your desktop. XPipe is a new type of shell connection hub and remote file manager that allows you to access your entire server infrastructure from your local machine. It works on top of your installed command line programs and does not require any setup on your remote systems. So if you normally use CLI tools like SSH, Docker, kubectl, etc.

5:37to connect to your servers, you can just use XPipe on top of that. End quote. If you connect to a lot of remote machines often, this looks like an excellent way to organize the chaos. It's cross-platform, has complete SSH support, and full-on file system management with lots of bells and whistles. That is the news for now, but also scan that companion newsletter for even more links worth clicking on, such as a collection of MCP reference implementations, launching RDAP, sunsetting who is, and the good times in tech are over. Get in on the newsletter at changelog.com slash news. Last week on the pod, Adam went solo with Beyond Lou from Sourcegraph and talked front end with his old friend, John Long.

6:24Coming up this week, I go solo with Ilya Gregorik from Shopify and Justin Searles is back on Friday with another Breaking Change. Have a great week. Leave us a five-star review if you dig our work and I'll talk to you again real soon.

From the publisher

Amelia Wattenberger bemoans the computer's great flattening, the Learnk8s team lets you manage your cluster from a spreadsheet, Jan Swist gets a surprising response from Cursor, the French and German governments team up for an open source Notion alternative & XPipe lets you access your entire server infrastructure from your local desktop.

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