Why Meghan’s jam can’t save Prince Harry from £18m legal bill

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1:45Welcome to The Weekend Tea with me, Poppy Coburn, and this week I'm joined by Ed Cumming. Who are you, Ed? What are you doing here? Thanks very much. I'm a featured writer. I'm normally kept out of these kinds of important chats, but Michael Deacon's away, so they've roped me in. I think it must be because it's silly season. It's silly season. You get features writers in for silly season. It's a bit like they're defrosted Bublé for Christmas.

2:17The real reason I think we need you here is that we are seriously lacking in anyone who is involved at the weekend tea who likes football, which is a pretty big blind spot for the cultural landscape. And particularly given, I hear there's a very big story this week about the World Cup. And am I pronouncing this right? Obviously, he's Italian. Infantino? Gianni Infantino. Infantino. I think he's technically Swiss, but he's Swiss-Italian. Swiss-Italian. I suppose I am outside the sports desk. Maybe one of the few Telegraph people to pay close attention to the World Cup. I'm not sure. But this story is amazing.

2:51Infantino and Donald Trump have been having this kind of bromance now for several years. Infantino, he's president of FIFA. He awarded Trump the Peace Prize. Trump and Infantino see each other kind of, I think there's a lot of respect, sort of touching respect for meeting people who are as corrupt as each other. There's a kind of real meeting of minds. It's like a godfather moment, you know. I think so. I think it's, for both men, it was like they'd had this, you know, a boxer with an unbeaten record finally gets really hit in the face and there's that kind of wow all right fair enough here's a guy we could do business with so infantino the world cup was in america infantino's had this fantastic world cup um of flying around privately lording it over everyone and the kind of the peak with trump was was when trump personally called him uh to get this suspended american player even i know about this so this caused a lot of uh hoo-ha the football enjoyment community.

3:46So apparently he calls him directly, right? Donald Trump calls him up and says, I don't like this result. I want you to overturn it. And Infantino says, Don, for you, anything. There's no problem. Don't worry about it. Absolutely. Don't forget to transfer me those funds you talked about. Put the phone down. And this, I think, has upset quite a few people. Well, this was very upsetting during the World Cup. And I think, I mean, you could see even then, Trump gave this quite touching, this quite touching kind of press conference where he admitted, yeah, yeah, I called the guy. yeah he rescinds the red card and he's like he can't believe that he's getting to deal with someone like this on this uh basis anyway but this is this is all just kind of prelude to what's happened this week which is that infantino high off his incredible world cup of nobbing with trump has announced this plan to basically sell off the world cup for profit to create a kind of subsidiary organization within fifa and sell a stake in that to third parties potentially including Jared Kushner's brother.

4:41So you can see, and this is kind of, you know, the only thing you could do is like, okay, what can I possibly do after this World Cup to further enrich myself? I'm going to literally sell the World Cup of which I was the custodian. Football world's up in arms about this and the UEFA, which represents European nations. I mean, obviously the FIFA, there's 200 countries or whatever around the world, but most of the good football nations are in Europe still. So they held a lot of power. So they said, well, if you do this, we're out. We won't do it. And people wanted to. Infantino's probably like, that's great.

5:13Fantastic. It's even easier for me to get a sale now. You know, I just call up my friends. We don't need you. All the money goes directly to me. This is fantastic news. I think, yeah, well, there was some talk this week. I think that even Infantino, you know, may have finally flown too close to the sun. But then I think as of this morning, he's doubling down on it. Oh, that's so sweet. Not for the last time. I thought that, God, I want to be Donald Trump. What an amazing life this man has, not only on the geopolitical stage where he can win literally every conflict he's in because people are scared of America's nuclear arsenal, but he can even try and rig football matches as well.

5:46Is there any realm that he doesn't have total control over? Yeah, I think it's fantastic. And also, and then, you know, what you've seen with Trump this week is Trump has looked at Infantino getting back into the limelight. Infantino saying, OK, well, I'm going to sell the World Cup. and Trump thinking, OK, well, you know, it's been a couple of weeks since the final of the World Cup, whereas, you know, Trump was there presenting the medals, trying to kind of linger on the stage for the presentation. Now Infantino's hog back the spotlight. These guys are kind of neck and neck. And then today Trump has gone and I think the only thing he could do is go and solve another conflict.

6:19Well, I think the best thing to do is next week is for them to take the World Cup away from Spain and say we accidentally gave it to the wrong country. We don't really like you. We're actually just going to sell it off to the highest bidder. and that's how you win the World Cup in the future. It will save Britain a lot of heartache. We won't have to worry because we clearly can't afford it. It'll just go to whoever can pay. Just give it the highest bidder, just auction it off. I mean, the real lesson of Infantino and the World Cup, because this wasn't the first time, every World Cup there's a kind of big corruption hoo-ha.

6:45I mean, bear in mind the last time, the previous one was in Qatar, it was in Russia before that. Is it already just deeply corrupt? Why are we worrying about this then? FIFA's always been corrupt. Let Infantino do what he wants. It's this wonderful remaining institution, FIFA, that proves that actually when it comes to it, no one cares. No one cares about corruption. I mean, remember with Qatar, there was all that stuff about like gay rights. Yeah, human rights. Why is Beckham taking all this cash? Use of slavery, all that stuff. Gary Lineker giving little talks before the matches. And as soon as England get to the knockout stages, everyone forgets.

7:17Everyone's watching all television. It's coming home. Exactly. Exactly. And Infantino has surfed this deep knowledge that ultimately people really care about a last minute winner. Well, that's fantastic news for Andy Burnham, I suppose. Yeah, don't worry about corruption or sticking by the rules. All that matters is winning. So it is silly season, but we do technically have a new prime minister. I know. Which is now a very, very frequent occurrence, as this video shows with Andy Burnham when he gave his big flag note speech in an old people's home. can show. Nice to meet you. How are you? Andy.

7:53I'm Dick. Andy. Andrew. Yes, that's it. You are the local candidate, are you? Oh, no. I was a local candidate. I had a by-election a few weeks ago, but I'm now the Prime Minister. You are? He's the Prime Minister. Well, a new one. Another one. I can't hear me. I know, I know, I know. I understand why he said this. I heard that it used to be a question that you would ask to elderly people, particularly those who are suffering from dementia. You know, the questions like, what day is it? Who is the prime minister? You can no longer ask that question, who is the prime minister? Because we've had so many in the last decade that if you ask you and I, I think we'd probably struggle.

8:36Absolutely. Which one is it now? Oh, it's not that. Kiyosama, Rishi Sunak, Liz Charles. One of those. Oh, yeah, he's a northerner and he's got really nice eyelashes. Andy Burnham. Yeah, you're right. It used to be a sign that you were sort of firing on all cylinders that you knew who the Prime Minister was. I think now it's a sign of genius level memory, intelligence. Get a live, you know, yeah. Go outside. What do you mean you know who the Prime Minister is? Go and touch grass, yeah. How have you kept up with the tender's day? But as you say, I mean, this is having a new Prime Minister now feels very unnatural.

9:07It's disrupted the natural order of news in the summer. We should be worrying about less important things. and instead we have this to deal with this you know first fortnight of a pm well we do have some of the old classic silly stories i mean there's one there there's this swansea chaplain who's gone viral for looking like andy burnham you can guess what the name mandy burnham uh it's very very very sweet the resemblance is definitely there i think it's mostly coming from the eyes the eyebrows and the exact same glasses and it's quaker chaplain took it very well took it very well in stride um already has given her opinions on how the country should be moving forward as well, giving some tips to Andy Burnham.

9:44So that is classic silly season news. I think so. And she, I mean, a bit like Andy Burnham has been doing, she's taken it in surprising good humour, responded like a human being and used it to advance her own points. Yeah, well, if Labour do need a woman to lead the Labour Party, they've already got an immediate standard. They could just put her in when Andy Burnham's on holiday and say, look, we've got a female leader. Problem solved. Washing my hands of that one. I think there are also, I mean, there are worse prime ministers to look like the... Keir Starmer. Female version of... That's pretty brutal, isn't it?

10:15Who would you most like to be mistaken for? You really resemble a female Keir Starmer. That's pretty, that is pretty, pretty brutal. I think Gordon Brown. I'm not sure I'd want to be told that I look like... A Lady Brown. A Lady Brown. Oh, that's pretty, that's pretty unfortunate. Boris Johnson. Lady Boris Johnson. That would make me think I need to get my hair cut. Or a natural blonde. No, she's done very well. I think Andy Burnham does have a good sense of humour. To be fair to him, as much as I don't agree with everything he's been doing, he's got a very good social media game, which obviously appeals to me.

10:44There was this case where a woman who was supposed to have her wedding at the new offices at the Number 10 North was complaining, you know, is there going to be loads of security around when it's my big day? And Andy Burnham did actually respond to her query by saying, oh, we'll look into it, you know, we'll go after this, which I thought was quite sweet and interesting, although I'm not really sure that's the solution to her wedding woes. That's right. She said she didn't want her vibe ruined or something. Is he the first Prime Minister to worry about ruining a vibe? I think Keir Starmer worried about that every time we walked into a room.

11:13I think he did it. I don't know if he worried too much about it. I don't know if that was a part of the problem. I mean, surely there's a solution to this. You've got Number 10 North and you've got Number 10 South. So you just change which week you're doing it. So she can have her wedding in Number 10 in London. And that can be the solution that everybody wins, right? So this is how you deal with it. yeah I mean I can see it's very annoying because obviously it's not in the typical run of things that a wedding venue that you booked a long way in advance you know maybe she'd paid her DJ or whatever yeah and then they announced that actually this is now the seat of British government it's going to be Angela Rayner who's actually DJing as she famously did in Manchester a few years ago I mean that would certainly ruin the vibe of your wedding that's true or singing for Smiths Burnham turning up to sing for Smiths and talk about his tribute band and you can't get rid of him because he's the prime minister no you can't remove him for Muir Wedding.

11:58He's very sick music, isn't he, when he does that? Yeah. It's very, oh, yeah. I did like the video where he's touring the new number 10 North and it's like he's got the gold record, the Smiths. There's like some Oasis references. There's just like a picture of a football pitch. He's trying so hard to be a normal person. It's very sweet. I know. Poor scratchings and Manchester and T-shirts and, you know. Still to come, where is Prince Harry going to find£18 million? That's a lot of jam to sell. And have you heard about the scandal of clicking at cricket? That's hard to say. Don't say it too fast.

12:33Nirav Modi was a billionaire diamond tycoon whose jewellery was worn by Hollywood stars like Kate Winslet. But in 2018, he was accused of masterminding one of the world's biggest ever bank frauds, and he disappeared. This is the extraordinary story of the rise and fall of Nirav Modi. and of how we caught him. He was in the news all the time. Where is New York Moby? Why can we not find it? He's one of the most sought-after criminals in India. You owe a lot of people a lot of money, Mr Modi, who would very much like to know where you are. Sorry, no comment. The Indians will think we're a laughingstock.

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15:41It's not been a big week for Prince Harry, has it, Ed? It's been pretty unfortunate for him. So not only has he had the humiliation of losing his big flagship legal case against associated newspapers, he's also now potentially on the hook for up to£18 million, potentially even more if the mail is successful at getting indemnity clause in their insurance removed. And then like those costs could be lean even further. This is really disappointing for a few reasons. One, if you're someone like Doreen Lawrence, who was kind of brought in as a trophy litigant, she's obviously not going to be able to pay this£18 million fee, right?

16:15So you have to assume that some of the richer people involved, which is Elton John and Prince Harry, are going to be the ones that are going to be costing up the money. Then you wonder how? Because how much liquid cash does Harry actually have at the moment? He's got involved in quite a few business dealings, right? There was the weird Netflix show that they tried to do, obviously selling the memoir, which I imagine would have netted him quite a tidy advance sum. And then there's his wife's various business ventures, some more successful than others. Are you familiar with Meghan Markle's jam line?

16:44I've not tried it. You've not tried it. Well, I think it's going to be flooding the market very, very, very soon. We did actually talk about this on the Daily Tea this week. We talked to Gordon Rayner about it. And I did make a joke about them selling jam then at the time. And then I saw that there was a press release that they are releasing a new line of jam. So I think they're going to crash the international price of jam to try and pay off this fee. You just feel with Harry, this guy just makes so many bad decisions. when was the last time he made a decision that made his life better it's like he's given this presented with two choices and he seems to always end up with the one that makes him owe something like 18 million quid or less popular I always think of those films where there's people living in loads of multiple universes and I feel like Prince Harry is just living in his worst possible timeline there's like a positive timeline where he's like a national hero we all love him, he's the Invictus Games guy He's the army hero.

17:40We all love him. And in this universe, he's like sadly, you know, rattle around a donation jar to pay off his legal fee. Maybe that's the way his way out of his financial hole. He could sell the Invictus game. Sell it to Infantino. Sell it to Infantino. A consortium of Infantino. Saudi Sovereign Wealth Fund. Kushner or two. Trump. Get it in and see how that goes. I would love to see a brand Sussex cross brand Trump. Like the collaboration. Trump Tower, sponsored by the Sussexes. Yeah, Invictus ex-Trump ex-Jam. ex-Netflix. There's a way out of this. I think he just needs to back down. I assume it's his pride that's stopping him from doing that.

18:15I mean, if you're born into the royal family, you're going to have a certain amount of pride that kind of goes along with the territory. But it is sad because the only people who are winning from this are the lawyers, right? I can only assume those are the people that keep telling him to continue fighting. You lose every single case. Keep going, keep going, keep going. And you just keep going. It's time to give it up. Otherwise, he's going to leave the Montecito house and then he really will have to move into Buckingham Palace again. Get him back, yeah. I see him in a back room somewhere. I'm going to put him in the servants' quarters.

18:42That's a job. I mean, that's one way to pay for it. Well, they'd take a natural job. Yeah, he's like cleaning your bucket of ballast. Oh, poor Harry. Well, speaking of another king, a true king and king of our hearts, I know you did a fantastic interview with Michael O 'Leary. Ryanair boss. Michael O 'Leary. Yes, he's back in the knees. Not for the best reason. He rarely is in the knees for good reasons. You will recall, of course, the pretty iconic photos and videos of the man who was travelling on a Ryanair flight who, well, something quite bad happened. He got a window seat, great result, but he did get sucked out of the window halfway through the flight and nearly died.

19:18So that was a bit of a problem. So there's an agendum to the story, which is just classic Ryanair. He hasn't yet really received any proper communication from Ryanair about the compensation, which I assume he will at some point receive for this terrible accident. But his son did get an email offering offering to rebook the flight. Unconfirmed whether or not it was a free rebooking or he would have to actually pay again to travel with Ryanair, which I think is just such a perfect story. This is classic O 'Leary. This is classic. Are you satisfied with your experience? Would you like to give us some more money?

19:54Our window's a frill. You know, you've got to think. It's a story, isn't it? It's a great story. Do you need the window? If you're sucked out, yeah. I like that they did move him after he was sucked half out of the plane. Did he have to pay for it? No, they didn't. They gave him a free seat across the aisle. It's not like a£13 extra tariff. You know, you didn't bring out the car machine from free Pringles. No, I did, yeah. I interviewed Michael O 'Leary a few weeks ago and I just came away completely kind of O 'Leary-pilled on all kinds of things. Because actually Ryanair's really a philosophy when he comes down to it as much as an airline.

20:28He's a guy who looked at airlines and he's like, what actually am I selling? and that's why this story this week was a challenge to it, because really what he's worked out he's selling is going from A to B, vaguely on time, and alive. That's ultimately the job of the airman. He almost failed on that last one. He did almost fail, but not quite. But not quite, he did get it. He got there alive in one piece, mostly. And it just makes you think, how else could you see the world like Ryanair? You know, seeing the world, just like, what actually am I selling? And it's just very pure. Like, you don't need luggage.

20:58You don't need a chair, necessarily. Do you need a window? Maybe you need a window. Well, you could apply this to so many aspects of the British state. Like, imagine if HST was being run by O 'Leary. Honestly. We would have already had 15 by this point. Yeah. I mean, you'd have to stand up the entire time, but you would get to your destination. Yeah, well, that would be fine. With minimal risk of crashes. I think standing up on a train is absolutely fine. You would have gone through people's houses, I assume. People with some Pringles. Well, trains are good because, you know, you have a natural relationship to your luggage on a train, which is you're carrying it.

21:25Yeah, you're carrying it. You can sit on it. That's your seat. That's how you pay for it. His luggage point, I think, is that basically airlines came of age during this kind of golden age of travel where you would send your porters on ahead with your baggage or whatever, like a cruise ship. And so that just became what people assumed from air travel. Whereas in fact, if you're just carrying it and sticking it under the chair in front, then you're fine. Well, that's why he actually charges it for me. It's not him just trying to take money out of your pocket for no reason. No, don't bring a bag.

21:53He's trying to disincentivise you. Don't bring a bag. So that's why, you know, and he makes you think, well, actually do I need to go on holiday? Yeah, you can be O 'Leary-pilled yourself, by the way. I love being a massive cheapskate on holiday. It's more fun for me than actually being on a beach somewhere. I've been taught some fantastic hacks to get around Ryanair's quite strict luggage requirements. One is if you have a duty-free bag, they can't stop you from bringing it onto the flight. So what you should do is go into duty-free, buy the cheapest, smallest thing you can possibly get, and then ask for a bag.

22:22I usually get like a lip balm. I have drawers filled with lip balm I've done from this scheme. and then you just fill it with all the clothes that you are not allowed to bring in with your zero bag allowance, which I always go for. And they can't stop you from getting on the flight with this. And I think you also mentioned one, which is you should turn up really late. Oh yeah, I always turn up late. Because, well, firstly, two reasons. If you get there early, then you just get put into another holding pen. Yeah. Because obviously they want you sort of thronged by the door of the aircraft as soon as they have it ready.

22:49Waiting there like a dog in a hot car. Very much. Yeah, collapsing from heat exhaustion. You have to pay extra for water. Ready to buy a Heineken or whatever. And so instead what you should do is turn up right at the end because they're on big, you know, high pressure to get to turn the plane around quickly. So you turn up late and they're probably not going to ding you at the gate for your slightly too big bag. But I do also relish the power dynamic. It's sort of a great kind of like when you're shuffling towards the till with a slightly too big bag, you know, gives you a little tingle. The thing is, in defence of Ryanair, if you fly with any other airline, you're probably going to have a really unpleasant experience.

23:23sorry if it's a British airline you're going to have a really unpleasant experience if you're flying BA it's even worse because you're spending a ridiculous amount of money and you're also being like penned in like cattle uh nothing works delays are constant at least with Ryanair you know you've only paid 38 pounds for the terrible treatment that you get it's totally on you you've been cheap so you've got a cheap experience yeah it's a it's a test of how cheap you are and whether you can operate their website yeah knight him give him a knighthood he's a fantastic man please come and around the country go around the country we don't need john healy come and be chancellor um so other good story of the week i'm not gonna be able to say this cricket clicking row it's been in my head it's a real tongue twister if you guys want to say this quick click it quick click it and right i've given up cricket clicking row this has been a fantastic story of a very small town cricket club where there's been rocked by a cheating scandal again silly season i saw a video where this was being played by Bangladeshi state media it's somehow gone completely global can you please explain what's been going on we are we're not going to have a better summer story this year it's completely magnificent this yorkshire village cricket club saltman cc and one of their play one of their their one of their players was filmed clicking at first slip so first slip's next to the wicket keeper and as the ball goes past the bat you're just clicking so it just sounds like it's kind of it's very clever right so it sounds like the ball because you go on the audio key not the visual key because things are happening too quickly yeah and it's a great story because it's it's sort of petty cheating uh small scale that somehow speaks to something bigger about the british character and i think the reason everyone's loved it internationally is because we're always banging on about like the british sense of fair play it's just not cricket all of these things and then you just have this bloke clicking away and the umpires who are obviously i mean there's their senses maybe not not as sharp as they were are just hearing this click and going past i mean there's i mean there's so many things to say about this guy first he obviously has incredible timing so it's still on of itself right as the board whizzes literally a split second clicking decision so you know you could possibly in another life in a kind of jazz musician or something or a drummer he's clicking as it goes past and the world has just fallen in on him.

25:43I mean, I think people have been very harsh about him. He's been suspended, right? He's been suspended by the club. His newspaper's calling him up. And I think, you know, whenever England's playing cricket, we bemoan our lack of competitive killer instinct. In football as well, we complain about the Argentinian dirty, dirty tricks, win at all costs mentality. This is what we've been missing for British cricket. And here we have a guy showing exactly what it takes. He's exploiting the rules. He's exploiting the refs. This is the kind of thing they want in the ashes and actually there was an australian podcast has offered him their full support i think and said you know we'll pay any fees you incur this this is great stuff this guy um clicky so i hope he's not having too hard a time you're sounding like infantino now you're like oh you know look it's it's complicated in the game like it's the killer instinct that you need to win well you know this is what we complained about with england and then you have a guy demonstrating it he's been got away getting away with it for years he should be the next manager let's get to each other let's get this guy in he knows what it takes to win we've got another a great state of the nation story here this one really is pretty spectacular the peak district now sponsored by skoda seriously i think this is wonderful really you think it's wonderful i think it's fantastic i think and i hadn't really considered it um before this but you know skoda have this car called a peak they're going to call it peak district but yeah i've actually you know you go around the country you think a lot of the country remains unsponsored there's loads of revenue opportunities that are being lost out every time you're on a train you're Just like, yep, could sponsor that field.

27:09That sheep could have a brand on it somewhere. We're looking to plug all these gaps in the government budget. And actually we have this amazing natural scenery in the UK that is not being exploited commercially. Well, that's how we could get rid of these horrible queues. You see videos of them like natural beauty spots being spoiled. If you sponsored that area, you'd put a lot of people off in the first place because they'd be like, why is there a massive sign trying to sell me like Horlicks or something randomly in this natural beauty spot? And you have to pay like£10 to get in. and rationing people's ability to go there so you keep the countryside safe.

27:40And people saw the Sycamore Gap you know, felling as a great tragedy whereas in fact, you know, there's a way of looking at that as an opportunity. You know, your face here, your advert here, maybe a big billboard for Gap would be good. You know, you could just have Gap where the tree was. I think, yeah, once you start thinking like that there's no end to the scenery that we might get sponsored here. Once again, I'm thinking of Donald Trump. Let's get a Trump Tower. Trump and Infantino would have this country sponsored. Our deficit would be gone in a matter of months. There's going to be a lot of gold and gill all over the countryside, but it would be totally worth it, right?

28:19Very profitable. Totally worth it. Think of the tax revenue you can get from this. We're coming up with fantastic solutions to save the country. Margate a largo. Bring him in. Okay, I'm thinking now for weekend food, because the heat wave is continuing. Do you like the heat wave? Are you enjoying the hot weather? Am I whinging about the weather unnecessarily? Yes. I think I've really had enough of it. Apparently the rest of the country has as well because we've decided to beat the heat by eating really stodgy English food classics like cottage pie, 30 degree temperature. Red wine is apparently back in.

28:50So we're just assuming we're having a normal British summertime. We refuse to accept the fact that it's basically Mediterranean and we're sticking with our old classics. I think this is yet another example. It's a bit like the air conditioning debate we've been having. Should we have air conditioning? Should we not? clearly we need far more air conditioning than we do have at the moment but there's this lag i think between what we've done to the climate in terms of making british summers extremely hot now consistently and culturally how we cope with that so fundamentally we're just we're not culturally set up for more than four or five days of salad um a year yeah and that's what you're seeing here i think that that there comes a point you've had how many days over 30 this year you just think okay well it must it must be autumn or winter or something i've got to eat cottage pie again I've got to have more red wine again get me to Waitrose to the cottage pie Do you think there's a climate change aspect to this where like in a hundred years time we will have slowly adapted to the new climate that we have and we will be eating tapas Absolutely yeah And we'll be growing our own red wine by then as well We'll be growing Rioja in Yorkshire This is quite pleasant I shouldn't really say this It'll be great I mean most of the world will be uninhabitable It'll be on fire Bits of England will probably be quite clement in the summer God's own country We won again This is the Newcastle Beach supremacy incoming.

30:04You heard it here first. Well, thank you very much for joining us, Ed. Thank you for having me. And you've been watching The Weekend Tea.

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