A Turning Point In The Culture | Episode 125

23:09Dan Bongino:Oh, in terms of other like fake, you know, claims that the right is committing all these acts of violence. You remember when the governor's mansion in Pennsylvania was attacked? Josh Shapiro, the Democrat governor of Pennsylvania, his mansion was attacked, firebombed. Awful. Do you know who firebombed it? a guy who who thought that who wanted to attack is a quick obvious he wanted to attack josh shapiro for being jewish it was some pro-palestinian anti-israel anti-jewish lunatic in other words a left winger the whole thing is so stupid i it's unreal but this is the kind of stuff that they kick up into the air and hope that you don't know the difference and we've got The president of the United States reacting to all of this.

23:57Look at here's here's the president. He's not buying any of this crap. Here he is. Cut 12. Here's the president. The problem is on the left. If you look at the problem, the problem is on the left. It's not on the right. Like some people like to say on the right. The problem we have is on the left. And when you look at the agitators, you look at the scum that speaks so badly of our country, The American flag burnings all over the place. That's the left. That's not the right.

24:24Dan Bongino:That's the left. That's not the right. Now, a couple of days ago, the president went on Fox and Friends. This was on Friday morning that he did this on Friday morning. He appeared on Fox and Friends for an hour. And while he was there, he raised this point. He said, you know, it's time for a RICO case. That would be an organized criminal conspiracy case. the kind of thing that was used to go after the mob in the past. And I agree. We've talked a lot about this, that if you're going to go after the left for all of its violations of the law, all of its abuses of power, all of the chaos that they've induced across the country, then you need to expose the guts of the operation, and that's going to take a RICO case.

25:05Dan Bongino:And here's the president on Friday, cut 14, talking about how he wants a RICO case to expose the truth. I had one the other night. I went into a restaurant and this woman stood up. I looked at her immediately. She had money. She wasn't. She wasn't. So shoot, they get paid for it. They're profession from Soros and other people. And we're going to look into Soros because I think it's a Rico case against him and other people, because this is more than like protests. This is real agitation. This is riots on the street. And we're going to look into that. Yeah. Think about the rioting we saw in Los Angeles earlier this year.

25:41Dan Bongino:Remember that? The multiple days of absolute chaotic rioting, protesting against the enforcement of our immigration laws. How did that start? Well, remember, that started with left-wing money operation in California that said it was staging protests. They were staging rallies against President Trump for enforcing immigration law. And when they did that, it led to violence. It led to violence. And the reason that you didn't see any sort of reaction to it by the governor and the mayor of Los Angeles is because both of them were on the take from the organization that started all of the chaos. And so there are left wing operations who are agents of chaos, who are receiving money from some of the biggest billionaires on the left.

26:29And it is long past time we put a stop to this. Our country needs order. What did Charlie Kirk fight for? He fought for order. He fought for order. Our God is a God of order. And the left represents disorder, unfortunately. And they're constantly infusing it. I joke all the time that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's initials are perfect. AOC, agent of chaos. Because in the end, that's all she produces. She's never once produced some sort of positive outcome for the people who live in her district or anybody else in the country. it's always been another opportunity to create chaos. She's an agent of chaos and far too many people on the left are.

27:13So the president says we have to unpack this. We have to get to the bottom of the way that this money is being spent

27:21Dan Bongino:and how it's causing chaos in the United States of America. So you heard today from the deputy director of the FBI saying, hey, we're looking into not just the shooter, but the larger network that might be behind him. Absolutely, that needs to be done. And then, of course, you get the president of the United States, no bigger, saying we need RICO cases and we need them now. Please, with with haste, Mr. President, with haste. All right. More ahead in just a moment. We'll be joined by the great Rachel Bovard. We'll get her reaction to everything that's going on right now in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, as well as how Congress is responding to all of this and and what they have, what's on their agenda this week.

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31:05Dan Bongino:Rachel, great to have you with us. Good morning. Thanks for having me. There's been a lot of sadness, of course, in the wake of Charlie's assassination last week. It has been encouraging and uplifting to see the way the right has reacted to all of this with unity, resolve, conviction, and intensity. How do you see things going right now, Rachel? Well, I think we're in this collective moment of grief. And I talk to people on the left who I really do not think understand the magnitude of Charlie Kirk's impact. He was personal friends to hundreds of us across the political right. And I think a personal friend to millions more on college campuses, people who listen to his podcast.

31:50I mean, when he died, millions of Americans lost a friend, right? You know, he wasn't an elected politician. You know, he was a private citizen speaking his views into the public square that millions of us hold, by the way. Yes. And he was shot for doing so. And so I think the shock and grief and anger, I think, to some extent, right? You don't know the right is angry because we're not burning cities down. But I do think there is this collective sense of enough. enough and this resolve to change our politics in a way that it can't get to this point anymore. And so how do we as a movement move forward, honoring Charlie's legacy, respecting the views of people who oppose us, but doing so with firmness and resolve in a way that we haven't done before?

32:39And what I mean by that is really, just from where I sit, pushing back against this narrative and refusing to accept that Charlie Kirk was somehow provocative. Right. This pretext that the left and the mainstream media are setting up that somehow, well, people who hold these views are controversial, controversial, and somehow they deserve poor treatment. I refuse to accept that.

32:59Dan Bongino:So so one of the many evils that I'm witnessing in the wake of his assassination is the left is lying about Charlie's views and then attacking the fake version of his views. They'll say things like, Like, oh, he was a racist. He was a bigot. He was protecting white nationalism. He was none of those things. But what they do is they frame it that way. And then they attack the fake version of him that never existed. Yeah, that's exactly right. And, you know, I have to I want every conservative and Republican politician that goes on media to challenge that. Right. When they say, oh, well, Charlie Kirk was controversial.

33:35Oh, really? What was it that he said was controversial? Because I want to read the full quote. So usually what they do is they'll take one snippet out of context and forget the rest of it and make him sound, to your point, they create this straw man of Charlie Kirk who wasn't actually what he believed. I was just in this engagement about this this morning. Oh, well, he said, you know, Haitians are going to take over the city and become your masters. I'm like, yes, what he's talking about is unfettered immigration changing the way that we live and people who aren't citizens of this country controlling its outcome over and above the people who do.

34:03This is a mainstream Republican belief. It is why we believe in secure borders and controlled immigration. This is the conversation I want us to have. And this is what I mean about the right being fierce in response, right? So many times the right cowers. And you see that, well, we still want to be liked by the people in the New York Times. We still want to be liked by the Financial Times and the Washington Post. No, enough. We are done with this. And I'm glad to see people in Congress, like Chip Roy, saying more than that, we need a select committee to start investigating all of these institutions?

34:36Because in my belief, the left in many ways is a taxpayer funded subsidy, right? It doesn't exist. It's a taxpayer funded conspiracy. It doesn't exist without a lot of the taxpayer funding that flows to it from grants, you know, from our tax dollars harboring people who cheer assassinations and terrorism at universities. All of this needs to be cut off because without it, I don't think the institutional left can survive. And then they're forced to actually debate in the arena of ideas and they will lose.

35:05Dan Bongino:This is why you saw so many Democrat congressmen freaking out in front of USAID as President Trump started cutting the funding is because we found their piggy bank and we were stopping it. And as a result, they were going ballistic over an issue that most Americans weren't even aware of. I mean, how many people knew what USAID even did? And the Democrats were freaking out. It wasn't commensurate with our knowledge of that institution. Now, getting back to the left and violence, I just played a clip, an unfortunate clip of Senator James Lankford on one of the Sunday shows this weekend, suggesting that somehow this is a both sides problem, political violence.

35:40It's happening on both sides all the time. I happen to think that that's completely false, that this is a deeply asymmetric problem where the left has an assassination culture and any attempt to dress this up as a both sides problem is really an effort to excuse

35:56Dan Bongino:away the amount of immense violence we're seeing coming from the left right now, Rachel. Yeah, this is the exact problem, right? Like the both sides thing here is just unacceptable because we live in a culture now where for over a decade, the mainstream media in just with the acceptance of our politicians has allowed the right to be smeared. And as racist, fascist, Nazi, end of democracy, constitutional crisis, when you allow this belief to take hold, when you call half the country hate-filled, what do you think is going to happen? You normalize this otherizing of your political opponent. And that is what the left refuses to own right now.

36:41They refuse to see the part they have played. And the corporate media has played and creating this climate where you have so demonized one half of the country that you think it's acceptable, right? It creates this mind virus that is, of course, spun into oblivion by social media, by Twitch and Discord and all these places where this assassin hung out. And they believe that they have justification because the media narrative and the echo chamber around them is saying, yes, these people hate you.

37:11Dan Bongino:And it's not... Sorry, go ahead. No, no, finish your point. And then I have another question. Well, you know, I've also encountered this narrative that somehow it's so it's just fringe leftists supporting this assassination. No, it is not. It is not just fringe leftists. George Conway, who was platformed by CNN, MSNBC, The Bulwark, posted an image of a Nazi and said, oh, this is Charlie Kirk's death. It's a Nazi conspiracy. This is a person who was very mainstream on the left. And more than that, it's not just talking heads, right? It is institutions. We are seeing people in universities. We are seeing teachers.

37:46We are seeing people across the country who have just been festering in this do believing that their opponents are hate filled.

37:55Dan Bongino:Well, we saw some local communities led by Democrats refuse to lower their flags to half staff because they were angry that Charlie Kirk was receiving honors of any kind. We've seen lefties freaking out that the White House is conferring on Charlie Kirk a presidential medal of freedom or that the flags were ordered at half staff or that he was that his body was escorted home on Air Force Two. They're furious about this. Where does that anger come from? Why would you be angry that someone who did so many good things for this country is being treated in a dignified way in his death? They are, you know, oh, so sensitive that they cannot allow anyone who disagrees with them to somehow they cannot.

38:39They reject the posture of civil disagreement. Right. Because that was what Charlie Kirk was after was this idea that we can actually engage our disagreement in a productive way. We may not walk away agreeing with each other, but the point is to have the conversation to see the humanity on the other side. That is what is so tragic about the loss of Charlie is that he understood that very fundamental and foundational American principle. There are people on the left that have for decades, they have rejected it. And it goes all the way back generations ago. I mean, 30, 40 years ago to the 60s and 70s.

39:13Mark Hemingway wrote an actually very good piece on this in The Federalist that the left for decades has taken people from the violent eras of the 60s and 70s. Right. And they haven't disowned them. They've actually put them in positions of prominence, the weather underground, the people who bombed the Senate in 1983. Susan Rosenberg, her sentence was was commuted by President Bill Clinton. She now raises money for Black Lives Matter and lectures at universities. They have housed and, you know, regarded these people with honor who took a violent approach to politics. They have made it part of their, you know, their worldview.

39:51And I think you're starting to see the consequences of that. You cannot harbor and house people like that in your movement and not expect something like this to happen.

39:58Dan Bongino:Yeah, we're going through a genuine civil rights moment, I think, for the country. And I do see some positive development. So in the wake of Charlie's assassination, it does seem like the fever started to break a little bit, especially among institutions that had previously just been silent on all of these issues. We saw sports teams dedicating moments of silence to Charlie Kirk, professional sports teams, the New York Yankees, NFL teams all across the league this weekend. We saw celebrities coming out, people like Chris Pratt, of course, expressing his horror and sympathies for what had happened.

40:33Dan Bongino:And now you're seeing people being fired inside of the very institutions that you're talking about, Rachel Bovard, at the universities, inside of corporate America, inside of hospitals, who were cheering the death of Charlie Kirk. And now they're being fired. They're being terminated for there's righteous indignation that's leading to this. There's consequences for that kind of vile behavior. Are you are you hopeful based on what you're seeing right now? I am, you know, I because I think, you know, when you are confronted with this behavior, normal people recoil. Right. Normal people recoil from the idea that you could cheer the death of another human being, much less the death of a young father who was brutally murdered in front of his daughter, because that is what you were cheering for.

41:22Let's be very explicit about it. And so I am hopeful that this is a moment where we can sort of reclaim our humanity to each other. But what concerns me is that the people who, again, have been celebrating and learning from and housing the domestic terrorists from the 1960s and 70s are still the people controlling a lot of these institutions. And I do think that's why the right has to be very forceful in our response to this. No, no more are we funding through taxpayer dollars, you know, through anything else, the subsidization of these centers that harbor these people.

41:56Dan Bongino:So, as you know, Republicans in Congress are typically a lagging indicator of the sentiment of the country, meaning like it'll take years for them to finally get where the rest of us are. What do you how do you assess Congress right now? Do you think that enough Republican lawmakers are opening their eyes to the challenge that we are facing as a country right now? You know, I'm a little pessimistic about it, and I'm going to be honest about why. Before this even happened, right, going back to this USAID conversation where Trump went in and said, by the way, you know, USAID has been funding our demise to some extent, right?

42:34We've been funding these leftist organizations to come at us in all these different areas of culture and politics and civil society, republics in Congress responded by refunding those organizations in their appropriations bill. The House in particular, House Republicans put out a bill that refunded all of the things Donald Trump cut. And it's like, you have to ask yourself, what is it going to take for you to understand this isn't a popularity contest? This is not about you being invited to the right fundraisers or you being invited to the right cocktail parties and being labeled a, oh, one of the good Republicans.

43:10This is actually an existential fight for people that believe like we do. And obviously within the bounds of the constitution, obviously within the parameters of the law, but all of that goes back to the funding. Congress controls that, right? President Trump can only do so much. Republicans in Congress haven't yet shown to me that they are willing and able partners of the president in addressing these issues. And so I hope, I hate that it's brought us to this moment, But I hope this moment is eye opening for a lot of people. You know, James Langford, respectfully, that both side ism isn't going to cut it.

43:44And if that's the belief that you hold, you're not representing your voters anymore.

43:48Dan Bongino:It's awful. It's so completely pathetic. And it's cowardice at the moment that we require courage from the people who purport to lead the right. And so and so I really do think that this needs to be a wake up call. If Charlie Kirk's assassination can't be a wake up call for you, then you need to leave. I'm sorry, you shouldn't be a part of the Congress at all. And yet too many of these these guys are. What is on there? Rachel, you follow what they're up to right now very closely. What is on their agenda right now in Congress? Is it all just budget fights right now? And is there anything serious we need to be on the guard for?

44:23It is budget fights. And, you know, these are always serious because of what we just talked about. Right. This idea that these government funding controls a lot of the policy that goes on in Washington at the end of the day. So the government funding expires on September 30th, right? It's always this, Congress knows they have a deadline and they never do anything about it till the very last minute. But the debate really is, are you going to have a continuing resolution, a straight extension of funds, or are you going to give deference to these appropriators who want to undo everything Donald Trump has done?

44:54And it's kind of a weird moment for conservatives because for a long time, you know, we've hated CRs, right? We've said, no, no, we need to pass 12 appropriations bills and do it the right way. But in this instance, I do think conservatives need to understand a CR to protect the gains that President Trump has made is the best outcome possible. And people will say, well, why? Because we're just extending Biden's budget. Well, we don't have Biden's government anymore. Right. Right. So President Trump is going to take those funds and he is going to do the things he's been doing. And he's not going to have to be subject to the discretion of the appropriators, because what will happen if you don't do a CR is you will get these House Republicans who think Trump's cut should be undone.

45:33They will have the say. Right. They will be the ones pushing their agenda on the president and not the president being able to do what he wants. So that's going to be the debate. And, you know, you've seen Democrats already say they understand this, by the way. They absolutely understand the significance of a CR. They want to have their their paws all over an appropriations process. So you're seeing Democrats already say, no, no, no, no, CR. And Republicans need to be firm in this and actually, you know, be strong negotiators for a change.

46:02Dan Bongino:So to be clear, the CR would preserve the discretionary cuts and the rescission cuts that the president made. That's right. And all of those cuts right now, the appropriators want to undo. Susan Collins is the chair of the appropriations committee in the Senate. She wants to undo all of them. And also there's a ton of earmarks in these appropriations bills. Again, going back to Susan Collins, millions and millions of dollars are going to Maine, specifically to hospitals that fund transgender surgeries. You know, all of these things that are in these appropriations bills that if you do not pass a CR, that is what you get.

46:39Yeah.

46:40Dan Bongino:OK. Yeah. CR means continuing resolution. There's some people asking in the chat. A continuing resolution means you just keep spending with the same authorizations that Congress passed before. But actually, isn't haven't we been doing CR since like the 90s? We just continually do CRs. I don't think we've passed like an authentic budget in a very long time. Have we, Rachel? no we i mean they'll pass a budget but to your point the regular appropriations process right the 12 individual bills rarely happens anymore in dc and it's it's this is why i say it's a weird moment for conservatives because for a long time we were like no do the responsible thing but we're now in a climate where the best way to make sure trump keeps to keep on doing what he's been doing is the cr well i just want to do the best thing for the country that's all i want i'm tired of all these like stupid debates on what is the principle and no the left doesn't play that way so let's just make it really clear what is good for us so one more thing for you and then we'll let you go Rachel thank you for your time today um the president's got a backlog of hundreds of nominees that have not been confirmed by the senate yet and yet this past week uh the senate seemed to be indicating that they were about to go nuclear so that we could get everybody through by mid-october where are we on the progress of all of that so the senate has gone nuclear um they did that late last week, and I expect they'll confirm the first block of nominations tonight, this evening.

48:00And so to unpack a little bit about what just happened, up until this point, the Senate could only confirm nominations one at a time. Now, you used to be able to get a lot of these nominations done in a block by consent, meaning all 100 senators agree. And traditionally, both parties have given that kind of deference. Democrats, you know, and it's not unprecedented. Everyone says, oh, it's unprecedented Democratic obstruction. It's been leading this way, you know, for the last 10 years or so. Democrats have been saying, no, we're not giving consent. You must confirm every single nomination one at a time, one at a time, one at a time.

48:37Now, remember, the filibuster doesn't exist on nominations anymore. So these are only majority threshold votes, but it does take a lot of time to do that. So, you know, Republicans only work two and a half days a week. That's true for both. The Senate only works two and a half days a week, right? They did not want to do them one at a time. So what they did was they said, we're going to break our rules to change our rules. We're going to break our rules to allow us to confirm by vote under the regular order, a block of nominations. And so that's what we're about to see. The current list that they're going to confirm, I think, I believe has 49 nominations on it.

49:12And so they'll be confirmed by one vote as opposed to 49 individual votes. Yeah, it's a big deal.

49:18Dan Bongino:It's a big deal. And I'm reminded of you remember last year when Tommy Tuberville was saying, hey, we're not going to let all of these promotions go through for general officers until the military stops funding abortion operations. And everybody freaked out at Tommy Tuberville. How dare you? You have you have brought the Senate to a screeching halt. You are evil for what you're doing. Of course, he was on the side of decency. And now the Democrats are doing that at a much larger scale to every single nominee that the Trump administration puts forward. Yeah, there will. Now that they have gone nuclear, there will be no more Tommy Tuberville on the right or the left.

49:54The ability to block these nominations, the Senate has been effectively whittling that power away for the last decade, and it's almost completely gone. You know, so the future of this potentially is, you know, future president Gavin Newsom appoints that, you know, CDC monkeypox director to run the entire agency. And now he's going to just be lost in a group of nominees. You know, the ability to run, you know, actively oppose and campaign against one particular nominee is effectively gone. They're all just going to be confirmed in a block.

50:24Dan Bongino:Well, the Senate did this to itself. They attacked their own institution. and this is the result of that. Okay, thank you. Rachel Bovard, great to talk to you as always and thank you for all your wisdom. Thank you. Thanks, Vince. There's Rachel Bovard from the Conservative Partnership Institute with a good projection forward as to what the heck is going on in the United States Senate and in our country right now. Hey, somebody in the chat did point out and thank you for this, that not every NFL team recognized Charlie Kirk's passing. Most did, But among the teams that did not, these would be the home stadiums, the Bengals, the Lions, the Colts, the Vikings, and Ravens.

51:04Dan Bongino:Nothing. Nothing. Couldn't spare a word on the fact that this national tragedy is gripping the nation. No moment of silence there for those of you keeping score at home. That's what happened this weekend. but it was it was encouraging to go from you know the NFL has like written all sorts of stupid things on helmets and fields and pretended that there were like all sorts of imaginary issues that everybody needed to go crazy over or post on Instagram meanwhile like a real issue happens Charlie Kirk gets assassinated the country pauses in mourning and decent people want to reflect on it and that's what that's what so many of these NFL teams did this weekend to their great credit.

51:48Dan Bongino:The Jets, the Cardinals, the Dolphins, the Saints, the Steelers, the Titans, the Chiefs, the Cowboys, they all held moments of silence for Charlie Kirk this weekend just before opening kickoff. So God bless them for that. Thank you for doing that. Thank you very much. In terms of that assassination, one of the biggest news items of the weekend is the fact that the shooter was living with his transgender boyfriend who wanted to pretend to be a girlfriend. That's right. A of a guy who claimed that he was a female living with the shooter. So in case you were looking for even more evidence of the left wing motivations here and the role that this transgender delusion keeps playing in all of these horrific shootings, all of the evidence is all over this event.

52:40Dan Bongino:Yet again, the assassin here. I've got the Daily Caller's iteration of this story. The Charlie Kirk assassin reportedly lived with a transgender, quote, partner, the Daily Caller reports. The man accused of assassinating Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk reportedly lives with a transgender identifying partner. That's according to Fox News reporter Brooke Singman. Everybody else has confirmed this to include Spencer Cox, who was on TV this weekend confirming that detail. and this is like this is you know I mean how many more of these things do we need to see how many trans shooters do we need how many non-binary shooters do we need how often does mental illness need to play such an outsized role in these events before we try and stop that put a stop to that awful ideology it is poisonous and it is driving people to the worst possible outcomes from suicide to, yes, homicide.

53:38Authorities arrested Tyler Robinson, 22.

53:40Dan Bongino:They've accused him of gunning down Kirk last week at Utah Valley University. Authorities say the communications between Robinson and the biological male who identified as a transgender female confirm Robinson as the person responsible for the assassination of Kirk. So there you go. The The partner was previously described as a roommate during the Friday press conference, but it is his transgender boyfriend. Now, as I mentioned, this came up this weekend on CNN with Utah Governor Spencer Cox, who has said plenty of things that some of which some of the things that Spencer Cox said this last week were important and good.

54:23Other things he said, I was like, what exactly are you talking about? This sounds strange to me.

54:28Dan Bongino:He was almost like he was trying to absolve the left broadly from its responsibility in citing lunatics like this. And I'm not I'm not here to absolve the left for that. I want to hold the left accountable for that. Here is CNN host Dana Bash. That the roommate was a romantic partner, a male transitioning to female. And how is that relevant to the investigation when it comes to the motive? Are you learning that? Sure. Well, yeah, that's what we're that's what we're trying to figure out right now. Again, it's I mean, it's easy to draw conclusions from that. And and so, you know, we've got that we've got the shell casings, other forensic evidence that is coming in and trying to piece all of those things together.

55:14Yeah, we're taking a look at that. So Dana Bash is angry that this is even being discussed? That this has come up at all? What is wrong with her? So they went from cheering the assassination. The left did. So too many on the left, not all the same people, but lots of lefties, went from cheering the assassination of Charlie Kirk to then claiming going into the weekend, actually he's kind of a right winger, the guy who shot Charlie. So it's the right's fault. Not true at all. No evidence for that. To now, like, what does it matter that the shooter was living with his tranny boyfriend? What relevance does that play at all?

55:52Well, it's a part of a never-ending pattern of chaos that comes from that perverse ideology, that you can be born in the wrong body, that you're a mistake. And that animates people to do insane things when they believe insane things about themselves. So, yeah, that matters a great deal. What is this? And so, yes, Trantifa strikes again here. And then Spencer Cox, I mentioned like the things that he says that drive me crazy. Take a look at cut six here. Spencer Cox had the audacity to say like to try and like pay lip service to the idea that Charlie Kirk said things that were, quote, inflammatory.

56:33Dan Bongino:What is wrong with this Republican governor? Cut six. Listen to this. I'm not saying we have to just sing kumbaya and hold hands. And so what I'm saying is we actually should disagree. I think Charlie represented that better than anyone. Charlie said some very inflammatory things. And in some corners of the web, that's all people have heard. But he also said some other things about forgiveness. He said some amazing things about when things get dark, putting down our phones, reading scripture, going to church, talking to our neighbors. He said that we have to engage. And that's what I appreciate most about Charlie Kirk.

57:07said if we don't if we don't keep talking that's when the violence starts starts stop sucking up to cnn stop sucking up to cnn why are you even bothering to do that that's what we call you ever

57:21Dan Bongino:see this where somebody's like you know they they offer some preamble to their statement in order to suck up to the interviewer or to suck up to their audience or to suck up to the to their social media people or whatever like you know lefties they'll say things like i don't agree with anything that Charlie said, but he shouldn't be assassinated. Why do you need to tell people you didn't agree with anything he said? Who cares about that? Just say that it is horrific to see something like that happen, and it should not happen in this country. Just say it. What you're doing, we call throat clearing.

57:52Throat clearing. Stop the throat clearing. And Spencer Cox, if you're going to get on national television, don't pay lip service to this left-wing garbage. Oh, Charlie Kirk said inflammatory things. Oh, really? Name one. name something inflammatory unless you want to mount a defense in this way how about this yes the truth can be provocative but it doesn't mean we shouldn't tell it tell the truth Charlie was killed for telling the truth Charlie Kirk is a Christian martyr he's a man who is animated by God by the Holy Spirit to carry out the works that he did on this earth he used his skills his blessings to their maximum for the benefit of the rest of us and I only pray that the rest of us can derive that lesson which is that we have blessings we should use them to glorify God and help the rest of us get to heaven it's as straightforward as that so don't go on television anymore and say things like oh yeah Charlie had his faults he was inflammatory I could see why people didn't like him.

58:57No. Garbage. Stop it. Find your balls and then go on TV and then tell the truth.

59:07Why is this so hard? Why is this so hard? Republicans, we're watching. Now's your moment. Rise to the occasion. Please. Please.

59:18Dan Bongino:We got a lot to get to. We have a big national radio show today, 12 to 3 Eastern Time. We'll be doing that. Rumble.com slash Vince. Find your local radio listings at thevinceshow.com. We've got the local listings there. Also, we'll be back with you tomorrow, as always, right here on Vince. Great to have you with us today. The best audience anywhere.

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