Dems' Shutdown Is Gone. Now They've Revived Epstein | Episode 168

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32:52In fact, one of the emails that The New York Times is relying on here to try and condemn Donald Trump. Is that they say that Trump knew about the girls, Trump knew about the girls. Interesting. Because here's the actual email as released by the Democrats. Now, they redact portions of it. But he said he references the fact that Donald Trump kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago. And he says, Trump said he asked me to resign. I was never a member ever. Well, Trump kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago for being a creep with the girls. And so Trump kicked him out. This has been long established. but that's hardly relevant to what the new york times is attempting here but here's what jeffrey epstein told told to the author michael wolf this is 2019 this is after two years into trump's presidency he says of course he knew about the girls as he asked galane to stop of course he knew about the girls as he asked galane to stop now i don't know about you chat.

34:00But when you read one of these things, when you read that line, assuming this is a real email between Jeffrey Epstein and Michael Wolff, doesn't that have the effect of not condemning Trump, but instead exonerating him? Trump knew that we were doing awful things, so he tried to get us to stop. That's a damning email. Hardly, hardly a damning email. That's Donald Trump intervening to try and make sure that there was no one being abused. Again, if any of this is to be believed. Now, the left today, of course, is acting like Jeffrey Epstein's the burning bush here. Everything he says is the truth.

34:39Oh, OK. Got it. So he told the truth all those years about abusing those girls. He was telling the truth about what was happening at Little St. James and in Manhattan and all these places on the Lolita Express. He was telling the truth about all that. Is that the contention you're making now? Yeah. So so these emails like keep on coming out. And again, they're not kill shots. They're not damning to Trump. If they were, they would have been released years ago. This is a spin job in order to distract from the fact that Democrats just screwed over the American people with a giant shutdown. Now, these Michael Wolff emails, they go on.

35:17And in them, you learn that the Jeffrey Epstein exchanges were designed with Michael Wolff. Some of this was designed to try and hurt Trump in the lead up to the 2016 election with Hillary Clinton. And so here's what we have. Fox News with the report. Biographer urged Epstein to bash Trump for political cover in newly released emails to bash Trump for political cover. Now, Epstein, you can see why. Epstein is in massive legal jeopardy. He's got all sorts of legal problems related to his mistreatment of girls. And as a result, you have Michael Wolff telling Epstein, hey, now's your chance. Hillary Clinton is going to become president of the United States.

36:04That's obvious. Everyone knows that. That's going to happen. And so you might as well join the dogpile right now. Attack Trump. Come out with some means of attacking Trump. and when you do, Hillary Clinton is going to love you for it. It's going to be great. Hillary and the Clintons who have a long and tortured history with Jeffrey Epstein, who have been, you know, Bill Clinton, who definitely knew Jeffrey Epstein and spent a lot of time with him, they thought this is our chance. Let's suck up to the Clintons. So here's what it says. Many of the emails included exchanges between Epstein and the magazine writer turned biographer Michael Wolff.

36:40Wolff had reached out to Epstein repeatedly. And in some cases, discussing Epstein's public image and apparently encouraging him to bash Trump as a way to repair it. New York Times called me about you and Trump, said Wolf. This is February 2016. Also, Hillary campaign digging deeply. Again, you should consider preempting. So Epstein is talking with this guy, Michael Wolf, who's encouraging him to launch attacks on Trump to curry favor with Democrats. A month later, they discussed strategy ahead of the release of a book called Filthy Rich by James Patterson, a true crime book about Epstein. Michael Wolff suggested to Epstein that, quote, becoming an anti-Trump voice gives you a certain political cover, which you don't have right now.

37:32And so this was what was going on. They were conspiring to how can we hurt Donald Trump in these email exchanges? So once again, this doesn't damage Trump. This redounds to his benefit, actually, because it helps not only to exonerate him, but demonstrate that there was a conspiracy among people who hated him. That includes Jeffrey Epstein to try and defame him. Where have we seen this before? Well, I don't know. Every Democrat made up scandal about Donald Trump we've seen ever. They're constantly trying to defame him. It's the wrap up smear constantly delivered over and over and over again. We also learn in these emails that all sorts of elites, all sorts of leaders in society, I say leaders loosely, they're not actually leading you and I, but certainly having a big impact on public policy, are communicating with Jeffrey Epstein long after it's well concluded that he's a sex offender, that he's abusing children.

38:32And that includes a New York Times journalist by the name of Landon Thomas, who's captured in these emails. He's in the emails. Good job, Democrats. You're doing great. And here's Landon Thomas reaching out to Jeffrey Epstein in September of 2017, tipping him off to the fact that a different journalist by the name of John Connolly, a former New York City police detective, is digging around at the moment about Epstein. and so you have a new york times reporter tipping epstein off about this he says he's digging around again not clear if it's another book or an expanded paperback version was asking me all sorts of questions about why you hired ken star ken star you remember ken star from the from the clinton years and the star report ken star was epstein's lawyer at one point i told him i had no idea says the new york times reporter i think he is doing some trump related digging too anyway for what it's worth so you have new york times reporters tipping off jeffrey epstein i'm sorry if there's a scandal here is the extent to which the elites in our society continued to maintain chummy suck-up relationships with a child abuser long after it was publicly known that that was his status that's the story and there's lots of people who pop up in this lots of people and their names are not donald j trump so yes you want to release documents i want you to release documents release evidence i want everything we can possibly get i've wanted it for the longest time and continue to want it to this day but every time democrats try and pull this stunt which is like oh the epstein documents trump's trying to hide something it's like an article of faith on the left go on blue sky someday actually don't go on blue sky but if you went on blue sky what you discover is a bunch of people think that donald trump abused children.

40:27And actually, even worse than that, they are wishing he abused children. The left has a desire in their heart of hearts, in their tortured heart of hearts, that Donald Trump truly hurt children. They want that to be true and they want that to be public because they think now, finally, we can take him out if that's the case. That's what they want. Their desire to take out Donald trump is so sincere and so cruel that they hope children were abused by him that's sick it's disgusting but as they release these documents we get more and more information about just how twisted and disgusting democrats are as well as the media outfits that carry their water it's it's all exposed here so go ahead keep releasing them as i mentioned this is a gigantic stunt to try and distract from the schumer shutdown what a disaster it was caroline levitt uh laid this out yesterday here's cut seven the white house press secretary saying let's be honest about what we're witnessing here now they're talking about it all of a sudden because president trump is in the oval office but when joe biden was sitting in there the democrats never brought this up.

41:44This wasn't an issue that they cared about because they actually don't care about the victims in these cases. They care about trying to score political points against President Trump, as we have, of course, seen with this government shutdown. And this entire thing, again, it's not a coincidence to the American people at home. There are no coincidences in Washington, D.C., and it is not a coincidence that the Democrats leaked these emails to the fake news this morning ahead of Republicans reopening the government. This is another distraction campaign by the Democrat and the liberal media. And it's why I'm being asked questions about Epstein instead of the government reopening because of Republicans and President Trump.

42:22So here's the thing, a couple of elements here. Obviously, President Trump has been annoyed all year about this, about the Epstein thing, like saying, look, Democrats are just trying to cook up another Russia hoax right now. And it's undoubtedly true. I just laid out all the reasons that they're doing that and how they're doing that and how they're trying to carry that out. They're trying to imply that Donald Trump did something wrong, despite the fact that there's no evidence to support that. They've been doing it all year. So Trump has been on guard for this story because he's like, I see what this is.

42:49I've experienced this before where they take either little kernels of information that might be true or they distort information to make it appear true when it's not, and then they sort of just use their media vessels to create a narrative that Donald Trump is bad, the wrap-up smear over and over and over again. That happened with the Trump-Russia collusion hoax, the claim that Trump Tower is connected to Alpha Bank through remote servers or that Trump was colluding with the Russians to steal the election from Hillary Clinton. The Charlottesville hoax is another example of this where they said that Donald Trump was standing with white supremacists and neo-Nazis despite the fact that he condemned white supremacists and neo-Nazis.

43:28They just didn't share that element with you. They kept that out of the story. So when a story like this comes along, one that has a bunch of very real information, I think continues to be of interest to the American people, certainly of interest to me. Donald Trump is on guard because he can smell it in the air. He knows what's happening right now. And he said, I'm not doing that again. I'm not going through that garbage again. In fact, we shouldn't put the American people through that garbage again. I don't want to be in a situation where you try and lock up my administration with a complete hoax.

43:59So, yeah, let's stop playing this stupid game. game. His view is let's not give any oxygen to this fire because the Democrats are trying to burn the whole house down with it. That's his view. Now, I will say I continue to be of the position that I think the easier way out of all of this is like maximum disclosure. Just get out of the Democrats. Just beat them at their own game. Don't even let them. They're angry yesterday, by the way, that the Republicans released 23 ,000 files because their view is like, oh, like we You can't tell people all this information at once. It's too much or whatever.

44:32And that's not that's not true. That's what they're claiming is the issue. No, maximum transparency. I'm fine with that. And it reflects back on Democrats very, very poorly. So, yeah, just keep releasing information. So my advice to the president is don't get too worked up about it. I release more stuff. But you can see why he's on guard. He's on guard for this because he hates these hoaxes because they constantly get in his way. And so yesterday, the president posted to Truth Social about this. He shared Caroline Levitt's view on the subject. He said, you know, the Democrats are trying to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein hoax again because they're going to do anything at all to deflect on how badly they've done on the shutdown and so many other subjects.

45:12Only a very bad or stupid Republican would fall into that trap. The Democrats cost our country$1.5 trillion with their recent antics of viciously closing our country, while at the same time putting many at risk. And they should pay a fair price. There should be no deflections to Epstein or anything else. And any Republicans involved should be focused only on opening up our country and fixing the massive damage caused by the Democrats. Yeah, that's right. so uh this is the president again making the point that i just made that that he's been maintaining which is like don't don't fall for this don't fall for the distractions the democrats are trying to orchestrate here uh because uh what they're really attempting to do is lock up the country again and buy time until they can take power again and time is of the essence we don't have time to waste we got to get to the business of the american people which i think is which i think is very very important um all right let me see here speaking of time being of the essence we don't have a ton of it left so i want to see if i can slam through some really important things with you um john fetterman just did an interview where he was asked by um a lefty interviewer who he thinks is worse the far left or the far right and his answer well sounds right to me listen to the democrat senator from pennsylvania telling the truth again i can confirm that the most poisonous, the bitterest is from the far left.

46:41That is pretty remarkable to hear you say that as an elected Democrat. Why? You know, it's been it's just been my personal experience on this thing. And when I asked my digital team, I said, you know, you're we're on all the platforms. You know, really, what's what's kind of the harshest, what's kind of the most personal? And the answer was immediate. He said, oh, blue sky, it's blue sky. And the difference is, I mean, the right would say really rough things and names you know some names I won't I won't repeat on on tv but but but the the on the left it was like they want me to die or that we're cheering for your next stroke or that's terrible that depression why couldn't it depression one and and I hope your kids find you uh I mean um they even have like the graphic a gift where they have like a stroke, you know, in your head.

47:37Oh, my gosh. Yeah, and they said that, I remember one, they claimed, oh, the doctor let us down, and why did they have to save his life? I mean, just really, like, I just can't imagine. People are wishing, you know, I wish he dies, or I want him to die, you know, literally cheering for a stroke. And I don't know what the kind of a place where that comes from. I mean, that's that's much different than just calling me a name. You know, and that's that's really been consistent, you know, in that community online. Yeah, it's disgraceful and good for him for telling the truth about this. This is something that you and I have known for a long time, which is the left has an immense and unfortunate appetite for violence, some of which spills out into actual acts of violence, whether it's against men and women of law enforcement, men and women of immigration enforcement, certainly against the president of the United States and definitely against Charlie Kirk.

48:34We've seen it time and time again. There's an assassination culture on the left and an ease with which they talk about killing their political opponents or hoping for their demise. I still come from the school of, look, there's all sorts of people I don't like in politics, but I am not wishing for their death, their execution, their assassination, their physical demise. I'm just wishing for them not to continue to wield power over my life. That's all. But on the left, it's not that way. There are massive, massive numbers of people who have very cruel intentions for their political opponents, and that includes people who are with them 90 % of the time.

49:14John Fetterman is a pretty dedicated a Democrat. His view is that he supports all the Democrat legislation, all the Democrat policies. He's basically with them pretty consistently. But if he steps out of line occasionally, he says something like, oh, it's good that the president is securing the border or something. And then the left goes apoplectic. They're they're basically their position is if you're not with us 100 percent of the time, you deserve a stroke. You deserve some sort of catastrophic event or death. And John Fetterman is experiencing that. Good for him for just saying it out loud.

49:52But in the meantime, by saying it out loud, you would think decency would be rewarded. That's not true in that party. Democrats are looking for primary opponents now for John Fetterman in Pennsylvania, because that kind of decency, that will not be tolerated at all in that party. it's really a sign of how far they've fallen um now let me uh let me get to something else that's going on this week uh while i've been gone i know there's been a lot of chatter about uh about the possibility that we finally have um the name of the january 6 pipe bomber uh there was a report that was put out over the weekend by the blaze and the reporter there steve baker man i've interviewed many times through the years he was a victim of all the january 6 nonsense i personally advocated to the president of the United States for Steve Baker to get a pardon.

50:42I said, are you going to pardon Steve Baker? And the president's like, tell me more about him. I did this in a radio interview, actually. And unfortunately, Steve was pardoned among the January 6th victims by the president earlier this year, which was great news. But earlier this week, Steve came out with a report saying that there was a former Capitol police officer who was responsible for laying the pipe bombs. And they relied on something called gait analysis. In other words, like how the woman was walking in order to establish that she's the same person as the woman depicted in the security footage.

51:18Obviously, it's created a ton of chatter on the right. There are people who believe it and say that they've got their reporting dead to rights. There are others who are very skeptical saying, hey, this could be legally perilous if they're wrong about this, which would be true if you allege that someone did something and it's not the case that they did it, you could get yourself into some legal trouble. I'm not here to render a judgment on that subject. I eagerly, like you, await the findings of all of this, but I do want to take you to something that's transpired over the last 24 hours that I think is meaningful.

51:52Thomas Massey, the Congressman Thomas Massey, put out a Twitter post, an X post yesterday evening, 7.17 Eastern Time, alleging that he had just received a letter from an attorney representing an FBI whistleblower regarding the January 6th pipe bomb investigation. And in his post, he says he wants to remind FBI Director Kash Patel in case this letter is warranted. In other words, I'm not even sure you're actually violating anybody's rights in case it's warranted. Federal law prevents retaliation against whistleblowers. And the letter from an attorney called Kurt Suesdak, I think, alleges that there was going to be a meeting this morning, this morning, meaning Thursday morning.

52:46and at the Washington field office at the FBI at 10 a.m. So presumably as we're speaking live, if this is accurate in any way, that meeting's taking place. It was obvious from the information provided by senior leadership in the Washington field office. This is an attempt to identify the FBI whistleblower who made protected disclosures to the Congress. In other words, that this attorney is alleging that some sort of illegal whistleblower hunt is going on at the FBI right now and saying that this is a reprisal and violation of the law. Okay, so that's the letter that Thomas Massey put out suggesting that, hey, maybe something really nefarious is going on at the FBI.

53:24I have no idea if it actually is, but I just want people to know about this. Well, the update this morning on this story is we just heard from our friend Dan Bongino on this subject. And I think especially, not least of all, because the audience I'm speaking to was almost entirely built by Dan Pagino. I should I should tell you all about what Dan is up to. I love Dan's activities and Dan's had a lot of success at the FBI, especially with Operation Summer Heat, where they were taking violent criminals off the street left and right, making America a lot safer this year. But here's what Dan had to say in response to Thomas Massey, to Congressman Massey.

54:03And boy, this one's a doozy. Amazing. So here's what he said. I'll read it for you. Those of you listening in the audio podcast, if you're watching, you can see it on my screen. Congressman Massey. When Director Patel and I entered on duty in our leadership positions in the FBI, we had our hands full, but we were happy to be a part of the president's team. And we still are. Despite the multitude of challenges that we faced, one of our first initiatives was to aggressively pursue a new strategy to investigate the January 6th pipe bomb, the terror attack. We brought in new personnel to take a look at the case.

54:38We flew in police officers and detectives working at TFOs, task force officers, to review FBI work. We conducted multiple internal reviews. We held countless in-person and SVTC meetings with investigative team members. We dramatically increased investigative resources, and we increased the public award for information in the case to utilize crowdsourcing leads. This is only a small sample of the work the FBI personnel and leadership team have put into this critical investigation. And to speak up for Dan's obsession here, one, you and I both know he's been obsessed with this case, January 6th, the pipe bomb case in particular, for as long as he's been giving public commentary.

55:16And yes, while he's been inside the FBI. And in fact, among the people that he worked with immediately was Ed Martin, the now former U.S. attorney for D.C., the head of the weaponization subgroup at the Justice Department, the guy who's also working on the pardons for Donald Trump. Ed Martin is a sincere patriot. And he told this audience, we had him on the program, he's like, Dan Bongino is obsessed with getting the person who laid those bombs, obsessed with it. And I'm working with him to do that. And this has been an obsession of Dan's for as long as he's been out of office and in office. So that continues.

55:56I don't for a second. I truly I mean this sincerely. I don't for a second doubt Dan's conviction to try and get to the bottom of this. So this is why it's also fascinating to see any claim to the contrary, as Thomas Massey is suggesting, oh, there's like reprisal for whistleblowers. Really? Here's what Dan says. This is only a small sample of the FBI, the work the FBI personnel and leadership team have put into this critical investigation. When I spoke with you yesterday, he's talking about Congressman Massey, a little after eight o 'clock in the morning, 8 a.m. Eastern. I offered you an in-person brief on our work.

56:32We spoke for 10 minutes. So that was the end of that. So stepping away from Dan's post for a moment, that was the end of their conversation. They spoke for 10 minutes. He offered to brief Thomas Massey on everything. I'll give you an update on everything. Yet Massey, by the evening, had posted this letter from a lawyer saying, oh, no, the FBI is trying to hurt whistleblowers. OK, but what about the briefing? Dan just offered you an opportunity to learn all about this. you didn't take him up on it, and then you proceeded to suggest that the FBI was doing something nefarious? That's really the pattern of events?

57:13That's awful that you would do that. So the whistleblower letter, the lawyer's letter comes out in the seven o 'clock hour yesterday. And so immediately after that, Dan says he called Thomas Massey again. He said, I called you back a bit after 7.30 p.m. to again make the offer. You didn't even answer and have yet to call me back. despite this, you continue to imply that the director and I, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, are targeting investigators in the case. This is disgusting, even by the low standards many have for politicians. You know my number. You are free to call me anytime, but it's easier to tweet and throw BS bombs.

57:55Yes, our leadership team will be meeting with FBI team members today, and we will avail them of all the whistleblower resources they need to disclose any evidence of malfeasance in the prior administration. And we will ask about threads that may have gone unpooled under prior leadership. But we are passionate about solving this case. But a week of near 24-hour work on recent open source leads in the case, recent, he capitalizes the word recent, meaning they are getting new tips very recently about this case, about the January 6th pipe bomber case. A week of near 24-hour work on those leads has yet to produce a breakthrough.

58:37In other words, we're not there yet, is what Dan says. And some of the media reporting regarding prior persons of interest, this is important, is grossly inaccurate and serves only to mislead the public. So I think it's safe for you and I to conclude he's referring to the Blaze reporting. I'm not sure what else he'd be talking about here. He doesn't say that explicitly, but he says that some of the media reporting regarding prior persons of interest. In other words, maybe that this former Capitol Police officer that the blazes identified, maybe she was a, quote, prior person of interest here. Dan says that, look, it's grossly inaccurate and it's only misleading the public.

59:21I proudly serve in this administration. I proudly work with Director Patel to reform and advance the crime fighting and national security missions of the FBI. We would love to have you, Thomas Massey, as a partner in this mission rather than a dog barking behind a fence.

59:40Now, whatever's going on here, whatever's going on here, it's insane that Thomas Massey would not take Dan Bongino up on his offer. like if you were pursuing the truth about the january 6 pipe bomber if that was your job and the deputy director of the fbi offered a personal briefing to you about the latest information what they know what they're working on whatever he can share wouldn't you take it yes of course you would and massey didn't do that massey instead did something deeply slimy which is he went on to attack the FBI without actually taking up the deputy director on what I think is a very meaningful offer to try and get to the bottom of all of this.

1:00:22That's so stupid. It's so stupid. And Dan shared the receipts because Dan's into receipts, as you know, about his phone calls. He posted both of the screenshots of his calls to Thomas Massey yesterday. The one outgoing call from the morning, 10 minutes long. The outgoing call in the evening, three seconds long because the guy didn't answer the phone. That's the state of play. And so do I want to know who the January 6th pipe bomber is? Yes, I do. Does Dan Bongino want to know who it is? Yes, he does. It's like his old thing. So one of the primary missions he's on, it's been true all year long.

1:01:03Why did the FBI just release video? They released high quality footage like two three weeks ago once again asking for assistance saying they have a half million dollar reward high quality footage showing this lady walking around looks pretty obviously it looks to me like a lady that's what i said after i watched it walking around planting bombs it's because they actually want to solve this if this was a cover-up it'd be the worst cover-up ever yeah we're trying to cover up the identity of the january 6 pipe bomber so they keep reminding people about the January 6th pipe bomber? Yeah, that math ain't mathin', as the kids might say.

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