Does The Truth Even Matter Anymore? (Ep. 2480)

28:37Now you want to get down and dirty a little more. Again, everyone likes to play games and everyone likes to F around. And then when you start asking questions back, they all get upset. So I think just to recap where we've been, I've laid out to you how charismatic messengers can take an ideology that's a lie and can make it go mainstream with the proper delivery system. what Bezmanov calls in the propaganda space, the professional propaganda space, demoralization exercises. How you can get a bunch of people to believe crazy things like Butler, Pennsylvania was just a hoax. Here's the delivery system component, how this works on Twitter.

29:20Again, I want to be clear, because I know I'm laughing at these people for always. Oh, we're asking questions and never giving you answers. I'm going to give you an answer. I'm not suggesting any of this is illegal. It may be if there's some kind of illicit foreign connection and violent. I don't know. I'm just telling you, like, I'm not making an allegation any of this is illegal. What I'm telling you is it's an operation, an information operation to get you to believe bullshit that has infected a good portion of this movement. It's small, but not irrelevant. Alexis Wilkins put this up last night.

29:54I can't read the whole thing, but I encourage you to read the entire thread. It's obviously 13 posts. But in the second one, you'll notice she produces actual data. See, unlike others who keep claiming to have hidden knowledge and data points, they never freaking produce. They never actually produce the data. They just tell you they have it. Here's Alexis saying, hey, I was falsely labeled a Mossad spy in a coordinated campaign designed to basically isolate an official U.S. government. She's talking obviously about cash. This is his girlfriend. She was falsely labeled a Mossad spy. Insanity. I don't know what's going on with that.

30:29Is there a lawsuit about it? I don't know. I don't ask questions about it. That's her business. She notes,

30:38Folks,

30:56that's just data. That's kind of strange because she notes correctly. So when content spreads organically, The timing is random. People check their feeds at different moments. Again, no one's alleging that this is illegal. We're just telling you what you think is some organic movement that's broken out on Twitter. Butler was a hoax. It's not organic at all. It's a demoralization exercise to make you believe you can believe nothing because everybody's lying to you and gatekeeping information from President Trump. Therefore, this isn't worth voting for. And the hidden saviors are going to come catch you when they expose the hidden knowledge like the MacGuffin, like the Pulp Fiction suitcase some day later.

31:33They open the suitcase, no one knows what's in it. But it's hidden knowledge and it's in the movie. She goes on in her tweet thread. The network has a trail. Oh, look whose name is there again. This network of coordinated social media demoralization and lies. She notes the network has a trail. Catholics for Catholics. That was the event, ironically, didn't Joe Kent just speak at? lists General Mike Flynn as current senior advisor on their own website. Flynn is the anchor of a digital infrastructure that's been repeatedly activated at every major Republican fracture point. Over 22 months of documented data, the same accounts appear at every chapter.

32:14The network does not rebuild between deployments. It just stays ready. Now, she has a tweet up there. Put up this one more. She has a tweet up there, by the way, in that thread, where they actually scroll through all these accounts you can see so you don't get confused by what you're seeing online. Now you know. McChrystal, Flynn, these guys are good at this. She notes, Chapter 1, May 2024, 10 days before the Butler assassination attempt, Ivan Raiklin, Igor, former Green Beret, former DIA, and board member of Flynn's nonprofit, America's Future. Igor knows that guy. Post directly to Elon Musk and J.D.

33:00Vance, General Flynn would make Trump assassination proof. 166 retweets, 14 tightly clustered time windows, amplified within one second. Now you know how it works. See, that's a data point. That's how data points actually work. You notice when you start asking questions, Now all of a sudden they start to unloading their diapers. So weird. So weird. They're all complaining. All of them are whining now that they got wrecked. And now everybody knows what they're doing. Again, I'm not telling you you did anything illegal. I'm just telling you, you can believe people who went in there with pure intentions.

33:50Many of them at great cost to themselves. Knew they were going to become targets later. Or you can believe a group of bullshit artists, gaslighters, who make stuff up, feed it into a delivery system that is totally fake and astroturfed. And then we live in the Tower of Babel. Folks, it gets worse, of course. When you want to see some more? Again, you guys want to fuck around? Let's go. here's a video of Alex Jones another one you know Alex by the way this guy you want to talk about a clown this freaking goofball I generally avoid this guy and don't mention him much because when I was first running for office back in I don't know was it 20 about 2012 or so that election right there I popped on this guy's show and during the breaks I mean he basically let you know it was all a shtick so again you can believe this guy but you know this guy who obviously will platform any lunatic who can counter message Donald Trump at this point here he is he has this guest on his show I'm not going to tell you who the guest is I'm going to let you listen to this exchange first about how Donald Trump is really stupid and about the military Alex knows better obviously he's obviously a military strategist himself.

35:18But listen to him. This is how the disinformation works from, quote, inside the tent. Check this out. Trump is under a total psyop. I don't say that to let him get away with what he's doing. That's how he is. He's smart in things he knows. But for people that know him well, he is incredibly ignorant about the military, incredibly ignorant on history. He just doesn't know, folks. And so they can just manipulate him. And now it's 79. We're not making this up, folks.

35:55Trump's an idiot. So stupid. He doesn't know anything about the military. Guys, again, all I'm doing is asking questions, but asking questions about your own statements.

36:10So Max Blumenthal is a you know, noted, noted anti-anti-communist. We're the anti-communist. He's an anti-anti-communist. He hates you. Now you'll see how this whole network works. Again, how the disinformation chaos agents all spreading the same narratives about Charlie, about Butler, all of it. All of it. You'll see how they all pat each other's back. And I'm just asking questions why they all seem to love each other. Put that tweet up by Mostly Peaceful Latinas. I love this account, by the way. This is an interesting one. Here's Max Blumenthal, who can't stand Donald Trump, of course, at all.

36:56Him, Alex Jones. She knows it's on the account. Take note of how the Flins cozy up with known Marxists. Here's a tweet by Max Blumenthal taking a shot at cash. And who's giving the laughing guy money? Mike Flynn Jr. I don't get it. And I thought you guys were all pro-America, hanging out with Blumenthal who can't stand Donald Trump, can't stand freedom and liberty.

37:23Who else has magnified Max Blumenthal? You see this whole network of people who all attack the people who actually did the work and elevate themselves as the holders of hidden knowledge while dumb Donald Trump was misled by all of us? Me, Pete, Harmeet, Cash, all of us. You see the op? Here's a couple of tweets by Candace Owens. You would think like, gosh, I thought, oh, look, attacking Cash Patel by subtweeting Max Blumenthal. Max Blumenthal has Cash's credibility, goes down in flames over Epstein and Charlie Kirk. Here we go again. And then he attacks Alexis Wilkins. Cassius' girlfriend. And Candace chimes in, this is excruciatingly embarrassing.

38:15He's a teenager in love representing the federal government. It's weird how that all, they all like seem to love each other. And they attack the same people every time. Here's another one, by the way, from Candace, another gem. Oh, here we go. Here's the Israeli stuff again. Man, I'm going to tell you something for a thing you're not allowed to talk about. These people talk about it an awful lot. Max Blumenthal, his former Israeli defense minister, Benny Gantz, declares he won't rule out American boots on the ground. Every U.S. service member needs to see this to understand who's calling the shots.

38:53Max Blumenthal is saying Israel is. Candace says, do not join or remain in the U.S. military. Trump has betrayed America and expects you to die for Israel. There is no honor in being led by dishonorable men to your death. Don't join the military. Trump's an idiot. Don't join the military.

39:13Max Blumenthal, Candace, Blumenthal, Jones.

39:21Wow. It's almost like leftists like Max Blumenthal have successfully co-opted voices you believed were in your tent, infected them with the rage virus, and watched that rage virus run loose in the tent as they're laughing from outside the tent the whole time. Let's throw one more out there just for the minute. Here's a piece by Daniel Greenfield. This is really fascinating. Talking about how leftists throw these shit bombs inside our tent and the rightists take the virus from the so-called in the tent people on our side, take the virus off that turd and spread it out within the tent. I want you to pay very close attention to this article by Daniel Greenfield.

40:12The headline of this. The left invented the Charlie Kirk Israel hoax to distract from the left's murder. He notes, Antifa has to be laughing itself sick that it's feeding a civil war within MAGA while covering up its own crime. Greenfield's words. Hold this. I want to read this. He writes, nine out of 10 times, the conspiracy theory is the conspiracy. Sometimes there's a 10th, but not now. What's the source for the Israel-killed Charlie Kirk hoax that's distracting us from the leftists who terrorize us on college campuses for decades, who harassed Kirk and then finally killed him, Greenfield notes?

40:51Who wants us to talk about Israel beyond Transdiva? Yes, people are quoting Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson, but Candace's source for this is Max Blumenthal. Max, he notes, is the terrorist supporting son of top Clinton official Sidney Blumenthal, who encouraged Hillary Clinton to invade Libya to win the presidential election. He's a militant leftist.

41:17We're just asking questions. Justin, I was told it was okay to do that, right? It's okay.

41:28what's fair is fair, right? We're just asking questions.

41:36Maybe you can start answering some of those questions then. Why you're always counter-messaging President Trump. Why everything's a demoralization exercise. Why everyone's a gatekeeper and yet you're doing nothing. You think everyone's a gatekeeper. The same people used to reach out to and ask for favors. You know what I'm talking about. By the way, I'm being very nice here, folks. Notice I have not taken the next step and released any personal communications. I know a lot more here. But out of respect for people's privacy, I prefer never to do that. These people are full of shit.

42:25All right. speaking of demoralization exercises i want to show you what we were dealing with too while we were there there was a hearing the other day up on capitol hill and to show you what this is why i get so upset when people don't give you both sides of an argument this is kind of weird when we went over there and uh when i entered into the fbi a few months in people were some people were upset that we didn't fire enough people quick enough while ironically the left was raging that we were firing too many people too fast. So like both of those stories can't be true. So it's fascinating how now you've got these former guys who just, you want to talk about being gaslit?

43:06I mean, believing in a bullshit narrative. You got a lot of these former agents who were pissed off at the basically transformation of the workforce. We let a lot of people go. A lot of people left, didn't like our leadership. Great. These former agents testifying up on Capitol Hill. I want you to listen to this guy, Christopher, Chris O 'Leary. This is hilarious. Here he is up there like, hey, man, we were like the paragon of virtue. We were never political or anything like that. And I'm thinking like, brother, are you living in the real world? Did you just say this out loud? I want you to show you what gaslighting looks like when it solidifies in congressional testimony.

43:43Right in front of your eyeballs. Check this out. The credibility of the FBI, both in court and in the eyes of the public, depends on that neutrality. And FBI professionals understand that their work must withstand scrutiny, not only in the moment, but years later. Allegation that the FBI has engaged in broad, coordinated conspiracies to investigate individuals based on political affiliation or ideology are inconsistent with my experience and unsupported by evidence or reason. Yet the absence of credibility to these claims has not deterred Director Kash Patel from pursuing what can only be understood as a campaign of retribution against his own personnel.

44:27When agents and analysts are removed not for misconduct, but for their lawful participation in duly authorized investigations, the conclusion that such actions are politically driven is self-evident. This form of retaliation against the dedicated professionals of the FBI has eroded trust in leadership, damaged morale, introduced uncertainty across the workforce, and disrupted the continuity of ongoing operations. Equally concerning are the national security implications with the loss and marginalization of experienced personnel. Okay, this guy's just full of shit. I have zero respect for this guy.

45:12I never met him, but he's just lying to you. Your FBI you paid for got rid of a bunch of bad actors. A lot of bad actors left because they didn't want to work there anymore when we were there. Just hit the lowest murder rate in U.S. history, the lowest crime rates in U.S. history. Counter-espionage arrests were up. Counter-terror arrests were up. Interdictions were up. the most wanted list has been nearly cleared out the best year it ever had you see how you with this bezmanoff like thinking though that these people can be easily gaslit into believing they were the good guys the entire time that old weaponization crew this is what i told you i found when i went there there were the two two of these fbis there was these guys out in you know whatever tuscaloosa investigating bank robberies and stuff with nothing to do with any other thing went in there to be cops, and in this group of just weaponized dipshits who couldn't get their heads out of their asses, who really thought they were like political bouncers.

46:12And no one ever told you what side they were on. This is Bezmanov-level thinking here. Massive demoralization exercise. Folks, people are policy. There are no easy fixes to this. No easy fixes. we have to just keep winning that's the only solution i i you know i'd love to tell you there's some big complicated tactical plan to changing government and keeping those changes letting the concrete dry but we have to continue to win elections or you're going to see more of this this is ted cruz at the hearing uh the other day the same hearing laying out some of the stuff we had to let people go for and there are investigations on right now that are public It's not like nothing is happening.

46:58You can look it up yourself. It's open source. Here's Ted Cruz laying out what happened that Chris O 'Leary, who I've never met before and don't care to, seems to have completely forgotten about. You want to fix the place? Then you got to acknowledge, exactly like we did, that this stuff got screwed up. You don't run from it, pretend it didn't happen. Here's the list in case you missed it. Check this out. Arctic Frost is the culmination of a gross pattern of abuse by Democrats for partisan ends to elect and reelect a Democrat president. In 2016, Obama's FBI began spying on the Trump campaign just a month before Election Day.

47:39In 2020, Biden's FBI met with Senators Johnson and Grassley in an effort to throw off their investigation into the now infamous Hunter Biden laptop, calling the laptop disinformation, a claim we now know was false. The FBI went to the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and lied to him in an effort to change the outcome of a presidential election. Democrats for years have exhibited the pattern of abusing public law enforcement powers for the sake of politics. Notice how O 'Leary seems to have forgotten that. He's more upset that these people were terminated, that their jobs were lost. He's more upset about that and that there's investigations going on into a significant public corruption.

48:32an entire portfolio of it. He's upset about that. But not the other stuff Ted Cruz just mentioned. This is what this gaslighting looks like. Believing bullshit, being isolated from the truth because they tell the lie so confidently. Folks, this just broke the other day too. Paul Sperry, again, I'm out now. I get the information like you do. There's a tweet from Paul. He wrote an article in the New York Post about this. Newly disclosed secret subpoena information reveals Director Patel's predecessor, Christopher Wray, signed off on special counsel Jack Smith spying on Patel's bank credit card billing records in addition to his emails and texts for two years.

49:15Democrat judges approved the subpoenas and ordered providers to hide what they were doing from their customer Patel. And you think Cash is the bad guy? Like, there's a reason the Democrats targeted him. There's a reason they're upset about what's going on right now. There's a reason they're potentially violating U.S. law to go and claim they're negotiating with foreign officials behind President Trump. Wow. Listen, for as much as I dislike what's going on with General Flynn now, he was the victim of a lot of this bullshit, too, especially that fake Logan Act crap. The Logan Act that, oh, you can't negotiate with foreign governments on behalf of the United States.

49:53Yeah, fine. Well, what's the negotiation? They hadn't successfully prosecuted anyone ever with the Logan Act violations, but they charged Flynn. Why do I bring that up? People are policy. You elect the wrong people. They're just waiting in the winds to go screw up the government right now. Here's this Miles Taylor. This Miles Taylor guy pretended to be a whistleblower. He worked for Trump in the first term. He was like a low-level guy pretending to be a high-level guy. Listen, having been inside, there's huge amounts of insulation between the layers of government. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.

50:26This guy probably didn't know anything. Here he is on CNN admitting something quite strange. And Scott Jennings gives him a look. Did you just say that on TV? Check this out. Allies tonight even told me in meetings that because Donald Trump kept saying it, his objectives.

50:40Dan Bongino:Who was it? Because Donald Trump, well, I'll tell you when the president tells us who he's negotiating with. So you don't, so when, when you're president, you had conversations with other countries tonight. I talk to people from the region all the time, the region or with the governments, Scott, here's the point. Here's the point. Scott gets the joke. Okay. Now I'm not accusing this guy at a Logan. Listen, the thing's bullshit. Let's just be honest. I'm just telling you like, this is exactly the leftist tactics and the bullshit that they pulled against us. And when they do, they're just waiting in the winds to go, waiting for the wings to go screw this thing up again.

51:18People are policy, man. We cannot go back to the Obama-Biden era. We can't. Once these people get back in charge, they have no lodestar of truth at all. I told you they're Tower of Babel chaos agents. Here's an example. It's kind of weird how the doomers and black pillars are telling you you should believe Iran over the United States that why you would believe death to America terrorists with freaking gallons of blood on their hands and face, American blood over us, is freaking insane.

51:58But the doomers are saying the same thing as Obama-Biden deep staters. Here's John Brennan. Now, just context for this clip. They're talking about Donald Trump and the White House's claim earlier in the week that there were negotiations going on with Iran. Of course, because that would seem reasonable. The left had to attack it and say, oh, there's no negotiations going on. This is all a hoax. Here's Brennan talking about that. Notice who he believes and who he doesn't. Check this out.

52:27Dan Bongino:They are an authoritarian regime who's known to lie. But I'm confused. What is going on? Help me. Calm me down. Well, I tend to believe Iran more than I do Donald Trump. That's crazy. Because he could not acknowledge the truth, even when he's slapped in the face with it repeatedly. Those are the same talking points as the Doomer class. Can't believe President Trump. He's really stupid. It's the same exact talking points. By the way, I used a Fox News story on that. In fact, there were negotiations ongoing, like I told you. Trump administration pitches 15-point Iran peace proposal as Pakistan offers to hold talks.

53:09What talks? I thought there were no talks. I thought we should take the Iran. The problem is everyone's dead in Iran. No one knows who's talking for Iran anymore. He's almost been too successful. They share the same talking points. Folks, if there were a Hester Prynne-like scarlet letter marking, you know, that A but E for evil, it would be chaos. Chaos and they love chaos. Chaos, what happens with chaos, it's the same reason the left likes their little stormtroopers in the street. Antifa, those, you know, some of those paid BLM mobs. They love them in the street because when people see chaos and violence, all they want is order.

53:58They just want to wake up through a hot shower and a meal again. And they'll do anything to get there when it gets bad enough. Remember that shirt we used to have? Is it bad enough yet? they'll do anything to make the chaos go away that's how you see the rise of charismatic messengers and phony messiahs that's how you see societal order break down and the banality of evil pop out that's how you see it in circumstances like that they're replicating the same thing within our tent this whole chaos atmosphere where everything no simple answers to be taken You're seeing it now. You're seeing it with everything from Epstein to the pipe bomber case to Charlie Kirk to Butler.

54:43You're seeing it in front of your face. Chaos is their friend. Here's Andrew Colvette from Turning Point. He's been hosting Charlie's show. Here he is, the co-host, and they're talking about the disinformation festering around Charlie. These are his best friends. they would know him better than anyone now you're starting to see how this stuff this chaos affects real people in the real world and i'm not talking about for the better check this out some people are so obsessed with these same conspiracies that they concoct for every other thing that ever happens and so they have to shove it into this one too because they care more about their conspiracy theories than about the person who murdered my friend facing justice.

55:31I am fed up with it. Yeah. And you should be. And this, this is, I mean, this is a tough job for us today, to be honest, because this is really personal. I have been open to everything. I think candidly, I don't get enough credit for even the fact that I shared these group chats in the first place. we shared a lot of information about trans, about Charlie, how Charlie was more concerned than any other community about the trans coming after him. You want to know the truth? That's actually the truth. I heard over the course of the last two years of Charlie's life, probably about 50 references of how he knew that trans, uh, trans Tifa was going to come after him.

56:15And he was worried about that. That's the truth. Never mentioned one time about the Jews. Okay. Never once. Those are only the people who were his best friends. You know who I know that? I think I've told you this story way before Charlie was tragically murdered. My wife is friends with Andrew and was friends with Charlie because she handled all the schedule items. So Andrew would reach out to her. Like, they talked more than I did about events. We've known Andrew forever. Andrew and Charlie were like this. Anyone who knows Charlie knows that. and they were both tall and looked alike. Sometimes down the hall, Charlie had bigger hair, but sometimes my eyesight's not so great.

56:54I confused the two. You're going to listen to him providing you facts and actual data points, or you're going to listen to others out there attacking Charlie from the periphery, attacking his wife, his kids, his family. You're going to listen to him. Remember this Daniel Greenfield piece? I just put it up in the show. The left invented the Charlie Kirk Israel hoax to distract from the left's murder. And what does the piece talk about? Max Blumenthal, who Candace subtweets, who's an anti-anti-communist. We're the anti-communist. He's the anti-anti-communist. He's against us. This is, again, weird, right?

57:35We're just asking questions, folks. I heard that was okay. And by the way, we are winning. Here's a big, big positive gold nugget for you right here, They're showing you that this stuff matters. Remember, in a debate, it's hard to argue with the leftist or the doomer. They've been demoralized. Bezminov said it. They're going to need the kick in the boot and the door lock behind them before they wake up. Something, you know, something's going to have to be like transformative in their head that opens their mind. I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is, folks. But we are winning. Our side is on the side of truth.

58:15I can prove it to you. You're not debating those people. You're debating the third person. There's always a third person listening to your debate online, in the comments. Even when I used to go out in public when I was running for office, there's always someone listening. Even if you can't get through to the doomer or the liberal, you will break through to the third party when you use reason and actual data points. And you don't constantly claim you have bullshit hidden knowledge that you never produce. We're winning. How do I know we're winning? Put up that Eric Darchery tweet. because I have actual data points.

58:47You can continue to tell us there's going to be a MAGA civil war over Israel and Butler and Charlie. No, there's not. You actually have no evidence of that at all. It's all an op. Breaking the percent of Republicans identifying as MAGA supporters just surged to a historic, this says all-time high, fellas. I thought we were told it was an all-time low. After President Trump strikes on Iran, YouGov. Wow. It's a seven-point bump. I thought MAGA was falling apart. I was in a civil war or something like that.

59:19Folks, all of it is bullshit. There's no MAGA civil war. We have to go out and we have to win elections. I'm going to show you in a second here who we're up against and why this stuff matters. Because if you want to go back to high crime rates, rampant inflation, high taxes, confiscatory wealth taxes, defund the police, men in the women's room, and open borders. That's your choice. This is a republic. But don't make any mistake in your head thinking, oh, yeah, they moderated the Democrats. They're really not that crazy anymore. No, the answer is they're crazier. I got Vince calling Ace coming up in a little bit as well.

1:00:01You know Vince, rumble.com slash Vince. He's on every day at 8 a.m., very popular show. He's going to be coming on biweekly on Wednesdays. We enjoy his commentary. We'll talk about all of this stuff. He's got a different perspective on some of it than I do. But listen, unlike these others, I like to put it all out there. I wanted to show you this. Here is Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson. You want to talk about an absolute zero. Him and Governor Pritzker have destroyed the state of Illinois. Chicago has had his, you know, high crime rates for eons, thankfully, due to a lot of our efforts to push them to enforce the law.

1:00:33They've done so and had some successes over there. But here is Mayor Johnson on what I'll basically call reverse broken windows. You know, broken windows policing, go get bad guys off the street, even if they do little things because they'll do bad things later. This is like the reverse theory that the jails are the violence. Check this out. We cannot incarcerate our way out of violence. We've already tried that. And we've ended up with the largest prison population in the world without solving the problems of crime and violence. The addiction on jails and incarceration in this country, we have moved past that.

1:01:11It is racist. It is immoral. It is unholy. And it is not the way to drive violence down. So rather than just poke fun at this idiot because it's easy enough, you can't jail your way out of the problem. Actually, you can. The evidence is there. I'm just here to present to you a contrast because contrast matter in politics. You have A or B. You have Donald Trump, low crime. You have Donald Trump, low homicide rate. You have Donald Trump, no border crossings. You have Donald Trump, a pretty healthy GDP growth. You know, Donald Trump deposing Maduro, killing the mullahs in Iran. You have that. Or you have Brandon Johnson.

1:01:45Hey, man, we can't jail our way out of this, so we should let them out of jail so they can do the bad stuff, not in the jail, but back on the street again. It's like reverse broken windows. Take all the bad people and put them back out on the street rather than catching the bad people, even doing less bad things before they do the bad thing and putting them in jail. You have a choice. This is their party. This is what they believe. You may be like, oh, that's crazy. That's just this one guy. No, here's the governor of the state Chicago's Inn, Pritzker. Sorry, there were some liberals here. Blaming the tragic killing of this young woman in Chicago by an illegal who should not have been here.

1:02:20Who's the suspect in the case right now. Here is Pritzker, unbelievably, blaming President Trump who actually shut the border. Check this out. There have been real failures. Those failures, of course, extend beyond the borders of Illinois. That's their national failures, a failure to have comprehensive immigration reform, a failure of the president to follow his own edict to go after the worst of the worst. You have a choice, man. You have a choice. Life's about choices. You know, I told you a lot of these are level 10 decisions. Sometimes there's a level 10 decision where there's a shit answer and a shittier answer.

1:02:56and if you're batting 500, you're a freaking genius. You're batting 300, you're a genius. These are simple. These are level one decisions. If we don't do the walk and the juggling of the chainsaws, I told you at the same time, we're never going to win an election again. We have to because these are the lunatics in charge. Matter of fact, one of them even worships lunatics. We're debating if he was too stupid to figure out what this actually meant. Did you see the tweet by Gavin Newsom? Justin and I are up in the air on this. Gavin Newsom, he could be a sociopath himself. You see him with the picture with American Psycho here.

1:03:36He's like, look, I've been told I look like this guy. The guy who's like a serial killer? This is his tweet for many years. People have been saying that Patrick Bateman and I look alike. It's pics going all over the place. What do you think? I think you're a freaking crazy person. this i'm like maybe he you know he had a no and he's just crazy justin's like i don't know maybe he's just stupid and and read the book and thought it was a story about this guy being like the heroes like maybe i mean he says he can't read he said it over then telling you how he reads yeah right yeah oh yeah he should yeah that's what he could have went with like the batman thing.

1:04:16It's the same actor. Instead, he goes with the psycho. And did you see what happened in California? I'm going to get to Vince after that. This, you want to talk about the absolute best story of the day. I read this yesterday. So there's a gubernatorial race going on in California, right? They want to have this open debate. And in a debate, you've got to meet these certain metrics. This is the Democrat Party, by the way, just to be clear. Nothing democratic about it. So they want to have this debate. However, you got to meet these markers. So apparently none of the minority candidates met the markers and the markers weren't subjective.

1:04:53They were like, you've raised X amount of money. In other words, it wasn't an opinion like this guy's good. This guy's bad. So the minority candidates, I guess, even within the Democrat party, were just no good and couldn't make the debate stage. Put up the Wall Street Journal, please. Now the Democrat party has erupted because their own California's Democratic at a crack up because their own people aren't donating to their own minority candidates in their own debate their own candidates can't make so they canceled the whole thing all the democrats lagging in the polls are people of color oh my gosh it's the democrats they're not voting for them it's not a republican primary and like the event is racist it's your event you pick the attendees I read this story last night.

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1:07:12Welcome to the show. Of course, a lot of you already know him. If you don't, you should. Our good friend Vince Colonese, his show is at rumble.com slash Vince every day, 8 a.m. Eastern time. He's got a huge audience. I love him. Vince, great to have you here. We're going to be making this regular. I know I'll be on your radio show next Wednesday. We'll be flipping Wednesdays. So be Dan and Vince every week. So, you know, Vince, I like to have all kinds of viewpoints on the show. I learn from other people. You know, your thoughts right now, what's going what's going on with the whole Joe Kent resignation, the letter, you know, the podcast circuit, the seemingly hyperbolic, fantastic claims that no one seems to be able to prove about how the president was gatekept and dog walked into a war.

1:07:54your thoughts on on that whole scenario.

1:07:57Dan Bongino:Well, you know, I think like a lot of people, my starting thought on Joe Kent was just how much I've liked him through the years. You know, he's one of these guys who was I didn't know him personally, but I had him on as a guest a bunch of times to talk about, you know, what the state of America's foreign policy was, our wars, how we need to be more careful with the use of American blood and treasure. And few people would know that quite as well as he does, specifically because he lost his wife to terrorism overseas. And he's been very concerned about that ever since. And so when we saw that letter, when he puts that letter out that he's leaving the administration, I had kind of two big thoughts on the subject right away.

1:08:35Dan Bongino:One was, look, if you don't agree with the president of the United States, the thing we do ask you to do is you can resign. You can resign. Don't stick around and be some sort of like force for nefarious activity and undermining him. So get out. So that's a reasonable thing to do. When he releases the letter and basically suggests that it's because he's doing it at the control of the Israelis or anything like that, I think that that has the effect that I was cautioning against, which is you don't want to undermine the president of the United States. You don't want to accuse him of anything, especially a guy like this.

1:09:07Dan Bongino:I mean, Joe Kent clearly said in that letter it was an honor to work for Donald Trump. He liked working for the president. And he supports him. And I happen to think, Dan, that the way that Joe, fundamentally, the way that Joe handled in the letter, other than, like I said, accusing him of in any way being influenced by outside forces, was just like, hey, look, I disagree with the guy I liked working for him. President Trump, his first reaction when he was asked about it, he's like, I like him. I think he was weak. He disagreed with me on this foreign policy stuff. J.D. Vance was asked about it.

1:09:38Dan Bongino:He's like, I like him, but he's wrong. He was right to leave the administration because he's not gelling with the president. He doesn't agree. He should go. And I thought all those guys handled it relatively like adults. Like, they're like, look, let's not make this into the biggest issue on the planet because we have some huge issues that we have to conquer here. Yeah, you know, I get it. I just think that kind of like short sells a little bit to gravity of what's happening. I mean, yeah, you can say in a letter, you know, say you're writing a letter to some random person who lost their daughter to a homicide like years ago and you're writing a letter and you're like, hey, you know, I saw you one time in the supermarket.

1:10:13I found your address. I'm so sorry what happened to you. And it's all great up to then. And at the end, you go, by the way, I killed your daughter. I kind of like the, you know, the whatever happened before that one statement doesn't really matter. So I think like when you accuse the president of the United States on official letterhead of being dog walked into a war that will cost Americans blood and treasure, like you said, You should probably back that up with actual evidence, not just assertions of I've seen some things, but I can't tell you what the hidden knowledge is. I think that's kind of a kind of a big deal.

1:10:47Right.

1:10:48Dan Bongino:And also the public record on President Trump's relationship with Israel works against that theory. So you remember when when Benjamin Netanyahu, when the Israelis decided to try and go after Hamas targeting Qatar, they strike a building and the Qataris are completely outraged by this. There were no Hamas targets in the building. Civilians were killed, actually. And as a result, President Trump kind of famously got Netanyahu into the Oval Office and put him on the phone with the Qataris. There's a photo of it. It's President Trump sitting with the landline holding it. And he's gotten the phone line is extended to Netanyahu.

1:11:21Dan Bongino:Netanyahu is apologizing to the Qataris on the phone. And the president made Netanyahu do that. So if anybody is kind of exerting power in that relationship, it's the president. And right now, even I'm seeing reports today, Dan. And the Israelis are concerned about the fact that President Trump is trying to navigate towards this piece and they want to make sure that their best interests are represented. But fundamentally, they know that Donald Trump's in the driver's seat. So, you know, the public record certainly suggests that President Trump has a lot of power over this entire conversation that wasn't reflected in Joe's letter.

1:11:55I think you're right. And I think that frequently gets lost, even when you look at out there in the commentary and, you know, you and I are part of it, too. But there are obviously people all along the spectrum with foreign involvements, foreign entanglements. If you're on one side, involvements on the other, you get the point. Even the most pro-Israel folks out there have social media histories going after Donald Trump saying, hey, you got to be more receptive to Israel's needs. So all I'm getting at is, listen, it's a republic. There's a variety of opinions on this matter. It's why I have you on.

1:12:30You know, even though we work together, we don't think alike in every issue. I don't want to. You're not a robot. You know, but I think it's unfair to neglect that portion of the argument, too, that he's a transactional guy. He sees a benefit in using some Israeli military help to get rid of the death to America crowd. And when that help is done, he's done, too. That's just the way he is. That's why I get so mad about this stuff, because both sides have a complaint about it. That's how you know he's probably somewhere in the middle. Yeah.

1:12:57Dan Bongino:And look, I, you know, I, as anybody who's watched me for any amount of time knows that like I, my big concentration on our program is to try and cover as much as I can kind of the insanity of the left and what's happening. Certainly is we are all being targeted by their outrages and that that's happening all the time. And there's a lot of fights that we have to have. Obviously, there's massive amounts. You've been covering this in great depth. And there's massive amounts of infighting going on on the right or certainly a fighting amongst people who want to claim the mantle of the right. And I'm not in any way ignoring any of that.

1:13:29Dan Bongino:I see all of it. And I feel like sometimes for sure that there's an intensity that goes beyond reason, I think, as people are at war with one another. What I mean by that is, you know, just pause for a moment. I'm asking just people on the right broadly, just pause them for a moment and take a close look at what President Trump is actually up to before you assume that he's serving some horrible interest that's against ours. I just think it's crazy how much people will jump to conclusions without actually consuming reality here. President Trump, on the issue of Israel, look, I like Israel. I don't have a religious reason to adhere to Israel.

1:14:08Dan Bongino:I think Israel's just fine because I actually think that it's better that they protect Holy Land sites. I think that they're a civilized force in the Middle East. I think that there's a million terrorists who've been trying to destroy them forever. And I find something kind of admirable about the efforts to defend themselves and to constantly fight back against savagery. I think that's a perfectly reasonable, and I think that's actually, in many cases, the very common position for most Americans to have on the subject. President Trump is fulfilling, ultimately, in this battle, a promise that's been made for 47 years, is that American leaders would stop this terrorism.

1:14:42Dan Bongino:And he's been making it forever. From the moment he came down the golden escalator, he said Iran can't have a nuclear weapon. So look, he is really crystal clear on what the goals here are. It's not some big regime change agenda. I'll tell you what, on the very pro-Israel side, there's going to be people who are very angry with the way the president's been talking lately. He's been saying, hey, I want to leave. I'm going to be dealing with an Ayatollah. We're going to jointly control the Strait of Hormuz. Nobody on the super pro-Israel side is going to want to hear the words, an Ayatollah is still going to run it.

1:15:10Dan Bongino:The Mullahs are still going to run it. The president's going, I'm dealing with reality. I'm looking. He left the commies in charge in Venezuela, but he's doing it with America exerting immense influence over the way Venezuela conducts its affairs. He's trying to do the same thing. One of the most difficult problems on the planet in Iran right now. Nobody's going to love it. You love Thomas Sowell, Dan. I know that he said it for years that there are no policy solutions, only tradeoffs. You have to understand there are trade-offs in anything that's worth doing. And the president is measuring those right now.

1:15:44Dan Bongino:And I think he's fulfilling them as best he can. You know, I didn't write down a lot of questions because whenever you and I talk, I know it just goes in different organically in different directions. And you just brought something up. I was covering earlier in the show today, just some of the failings of liberal governance, whether it's from Chicago to the state of Illinois in general, between Johnson and Pritzker and California. And that's the central failure of liberalism, collectivism and all its different euphemisms. They call themselves progressives, yet they never actually progress anywhere, is the idea that anything is free, like there's some kind of a money fairy out there without said tradeoffs.

1:16:21And that's what kind of irks me about the whole thing, that if they were just honest with people who are very smart and rational human beings, when you give them the facts and lay them out without the gaslighting, you know, we're all rational maximizers and will generally make the right decision. We will. We wouldn't have progressed as far as we did above the animal kingdom if we weren't capable of actually progressing. However, they tell you these things and they never tell you the trade off. They never tell you the old broken windows theory of economics. That, you know, the window gets broken in the bakery.

1:16:51The glass guy comes to replace it. Everybody marvels. And they go, oh my gosh, look, this is so great. We're creating jobs. This glass guy gets to replace the glass. But in the end, what happens? There's no value created. It's the same damn glass. The bakery guy who lost his window now has to pay the$500 for the glass, if not more. He's down$500. And he has nothing more than the same damn glass. If you just would have told people the tradeoffs, it wouldn't look like job creation.

1:17:17Dan Bongino:Yeah, totally right. And here's the good news. I think that Americans are paying attention at levels that we've never seen before. And that's thanks in a large part to social media, independent media, the ability to actually get the truth and not have the distortion filter of censorship that the legacy media has created for years. You know, there are still some people who like long for the days of like Walter Cronkite and three channels that tell you about the whole world. And the reality is - The Halcyon days, Vince. It's crazy. I just think it's so Pollyannish and it misunderstands history. What you had in those days was what we call selection bias, just a limited array of things that would get to you.

1:17:54Dan Bongino:And it was – you were entirely at the mercy of the CBS newsroom about what you were entitled to learn. But nowadays, if anything you want to know, fundamentally, you can find it. And Americans are finding it. This is why. So I'll just I'm not to introduce an entirely new topic, but I'll just use the Save America Act as an example. Have you seen the polling on this subject? Every American supports photo ID. Every American supports only American citizens voting in elections. Every American supports getting rid of non-citizens on the voting rolls. It's the most common sense thing imaginable if you just ask them on the street level, do you support these things?

1:18:27Dan Bongino:It's when political distortion get involved. It's when manipulation gets involved. It's when people who are lying to you get involved that things start to get muddy. Just look, when you know the truth, you're good. And this is why we're fighting for election integrity, Dan, because the left has come to a realization that if winning based on the merits is the standard, the left loses. If winning based on appealing to voters is the standard, the left loses. So what do they do? They rig elections. You can't appeal to voters. We got to keep voters out of this. We remove Donald Trump from the ballot in Maine and Colorado.

1:19:06Dan Bongino:We remove RFK Jr. in the Democrat primary from the ballot so that nobody can run against Biden. We rig the primary elections so that all of the candidates get out of the race at the same time to prevent Bernie Sanders from being a sentence. We rigged the primary in 2016 such that Debbie Wasserman Schultz needs to be chased out on the first day to the convention as some sort of sacrifice for, oh, sorry about that, as we rigged it for Hillary Clinton. They rigged the elections by way of the media. They rigged the elections by the way of social media. They rigged the elections by importing illegal aliens by the millions and padding the numbers in the electoral college.

1:19:39Don't forget Clyburn. I don't know if you did. You mentioned moving the primary to South Carolina to benefit Joe Biden to get others. that? Remember that, you know, moving up the primary dates. I mean, this is not none of this stuff is new, Vince, but your media distortion field is correct. And I, you know, I wanted I got about a few minutes left here, but I wanted the audience here to think about in terms of what's happening right now with the DHS shutdown. Clearly the fault of the Democrats. Clearly the Republicans are going to vote on a package to open up the government. They keep introducing it.

1:20:11The Democrats won't get on board. The media, if it was the inverse and the Republicans were blocking and there was a Democrat president, would be at the airport every day showing these long lines and constantly showing images of Republicans with the Republicans did it, Republicans did it. But now they blame it on government in general. This is the process all broken. It's like the distortion field. You come away with the perception that this is a government problem, which it is, But it's a Democrat governance problem. It's not a Republican problem.

1:20:40Dan Bongino:And they want to prejudice your understanding of reality. That's the that's the point that you're making. And I want to give a compliment to the president. I did this on our program this morning. You know, it is a masterstroke for him to send ice to the airports for two big reasons. He sends ice to the airports and they actually have the effect of alleviating the traffic. So that's already worked. The CNN had cameras in Atlanta yesterday and they were shocked. Their mouths were agape at the fact that the lines are actually dropping down meaningfully. The general manager at the airport just told CBS that it's the best it's been in a very long time.

1:21:15Dan Bongino:It's hilarious. Part two. Here's the other great reason I think that ICE is there and why President Trump is a brilliant man. Public relations. The media has demonized ICE at unbelievable levels. In fact, such dangerous levels. They've been subjected to thousands of percentage increases in assaults, death threats, and assassination attempts. We've seen multiple assassination attempts on ICE officers, including in Texas. Remember that sniper trying to shoot through a vehicle to kill ICE agents killed a couple of illegals instead. And now all of that happening because the media has been involved in whipping people into a frenzy about ICE.

1:21:51Dan Bongino:A cutie zoom would be in Nazis, brown shirts. But then look what happened. ICE is at the airport now. They're handing out water bottles. They're helping people in line. They're making their in fact, some of these agents are being placeholders. They're standing in line so people can go to the bathroom and then come back and take the spot back. Ice is human. These guys that wear the badge, law enforcement who are serving our country right now. These are humans who are doing good, wholesome jobs for our country. And now the American public is getting to see them up close. They get to do this as they travel.

1:22:19Dan Bongino:They're seeing these ice agents. This is a coup by President Trump. He's taken something miserable that the left has created and turned it into something wholesome that he once again has rescued. That's great analysis there, Vince. If you want more of that, you can always check him out at 8 a.m. Eastern time every single morning. Rumble.com slash Vince is part of the whole operation we have here because we love his content. Hey, Vince, thanks a lot for coming on. I'll see you on your radio show next Wednesday. You'll be back the following week. so you'll see Dan and Vince or hear Dan and Vince every Wednesday from this point on.

1:22:53Really appreciate it, Vince. Thanks for your time today.

1:22:55Dan Bongino:Dude, it's such a blast to do this with you. Thank you, Dan. Appreciate you, man. It's going to be a lot of fun, man. It's the first of many, folks. Vince Colonese. Don't miss him every morning, 8 a.m. Thanks again for tuning in. I really appreciate it. Don't forget to download the Rumble app, please. We would love for you to download the free Rumble app or on the web, go to rumble.com slash Bongino. You'll arrive at the same place, rumble.com, where my show is exclusive on video. It is absolutely free. Just click that follow button, rumble.com slash Bongino or the Rumble app. Go live every day with us at 10 a.m.

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