FINALLY: Jan 6th Pipe Bomber Arrested? | Episode 181

26:58Why are you doing this? And if you're doing this to like basically clear the deck, Get it done by the end of the day, because it is insane that you continue to play footsie with these idiots, these Democrats who are trying to lock up the Trump administration and create yet another pretext to impeach the president of the United States again. You got to be honest about what the hell is going on here. In fact, here's a Democrat senator, Jack Reed. He's the ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, gloating yesterday that the war crime hoax investigation is continuing. watch cut 12 watch this you and senator wicker the republican on the committee previously announced that there would be some type of inquiry into hegs to try to get to the facts of what really happened what's the status of that inquiry what have you found out thus far well we're beginning in earnest the investigation tomorrow uh we are going to have the uh general the admiral who was in charge of the operation, as well as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff to join us.

28:04And we're going to go into detail as precisely what happened, particularly with the second strike, which has engendered the suggestions, at least, that some personnel might have been killed in the water, which would have been on its face a war crime. But we want to establish everything, all the details, who gave the orders, what instructions they received, what alternatives did they consider? It's a very serious charge, and we intend to take it seriously. You are so full of shit. It's a wrap up smear. It's a wrap. You even heard in the way he was hedging his description. Well, people are kind of suggesting that there may be a war crime.

28:51Oh, shut up. You're disgusting for what you're doing to the men and women of the military. Remember, in their animosity for Trump, they are slandering the military for doing the job that they signed up for, which is protecting us. God bless them for it. I've got more details on that story and so much more coming up. We're going to talk to Brett Tolman in just a minute. We get his assessment of all of the legal things that are going on in the world today because there's a lot of them, actually. that's all ahead on this edition of Vince on the day in which the pipe bomber apparently has been taken into custody great news a lot to get to hey uh beams cyber sale is going on right now it's live for you and it's their best offer of the year but it's only until the end of the week right now you get up to 50 off 50 off with my code Vince show you can grab beams dream dream for just$1 a night, just about$1 a night.

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32:09He did that for a while. And he also worked in the United States Senate. He's done it all. And he was a leading figure in the drafting and passage of major legislation as well. Brett Tolman joins us on the program. Brett, it is good to have you back with us. Thank you, sir. Thanks for having me, Ben. It's great to join you. I mentioned a moment ago that Admiral Mitch Bradley is arriving today to talk to the Senate and House Armed Services Committee about the legal ramifications. Did he commit any war crimes as we were fighting back against these drug dealers who are trying to bring this poison into the United States of America?

32:46I mean, Brett, everything you've seen so far, you know, what are you concluding about this saga? It does seem like they're trying to lock the Trump administration up in another ridiculous wrap-up smear. Yeah, Vince, I think they are clearly ignoring some key features of the present day issues that we have. One being that the president has authority to designate agencies, organizations, individuals, terrorist threats to this country. Once that's done, it opens up a whole different set of tools that the president can use as the executive, head of the executive branch in this country. And the military is one powerful tool to go after those that have been designated as terrorist organizations.

33:30I think that is something that, you know, no matter what the controversy is and no matter what they try to, you know, embroil this administration in, they're doing what they have to do to protect the United States and its citizens. And there's a clear threat coming through these narco terrorists. That's right. And then the other thing that, like, the media has tried to, like, just skip right past is the fact that in the sequence of events, and we learned more from the Wall Street Journal yesterday about this, in the sequence of events that led to the destruction of that boat, they strike it once, and then they determine over the course of another hour, they're literally staring at video feed for an hour before they make a realization that, like, wait a second.

34:12First of all, not everybody's been eliminated. The boat continues to float. The cargo is still there and we have detected radio calls to nearby narco terrorists to come and collect the items that are on that boat. Well, then the military makes a decision. We've got to finish this mission. That doesn't sound like a war crime. That sounds like the military doing the job it's supposed to do. We live in this this bizarre moment in time in which those would say the first strike was fine. It's the second that was the problem. There's no innocent actors on that on that boat and they have to finish the job.

34:51And I think anyone that served in the military understands that if a mission is authorized, it's also authorized to be completed. It sure seems like it. Well, they're hassling the the admiral today. We'll see what happens with that. I do think that if I can engage you in a political question, I do think Republicans are being very stupid here, meaning in the Senate and the House, by treating this like it's a legitimate line of inquiry. I think the public record has already satisfied any normal thinking American on what the hell is going on here. The idea that Republicans would continue to play footsie with this is doing nothing but giving permission to Democrats to find new ways to try and lock up the Trump administration.

35:36Yeah, Vince, you're exactly right. I mean, I saw it up close and personal for many, many years. There's no surprise. This is why Congress has a single digit approval rating, because especially on the Republican side, where you do have the ability to take the high ground in this, the arguments are in our favor. The action against narco terrorists is long overdue. We talked about and gave lip service to a war on drugs without ever engaging in the war. Now we're finally attempting to get rid of this plague that the country has been under. And now we're learning from folks that have been insiders in different countries who are coming out and revealing that it was a targeted plan to weaken the United States, to attack its citizens, to compromise its borders and to effectively pull down the power of the United States.

36:31OK, let me move from our foreign threats to the domestic concerns we have. You were a former U.S. attorney, so I'm really intrigued in your thoughts about how important it is for President Trump to have actually Senate confirmed in place U.S. attorneys. he's he's in a he's in an immense struggle right now because he has prosecutors that are there in a variety of capacities and a variety of statuses who are trying to bring prosecutions and they're meeting a firewall of left-wing judges and people who are looking to disqualify them we just saw the comey prosecution for instance at least temporarily thrown out not on the merits it was thrown out on procedural grounds.

37:14It was they were going after Lindsey Halligan and whether or not she was even eligible to bring the prosecution. Can you talk about how important it is to get these U.S. attorneys through? What are you observing right now? Yeah, that's a great question. Not a lot of people realize this is the Achilles heel of this administration right now. And what I mean by that is, look, history is important. It used to be that U.S. attorneys were very apolitical. You had very few fights on the Senate floor. You had no problems confirming them. Bill Clinton came in. He was the first president to actually remove all 94 United States attorneys when he came into office.

37:55Then after that, it became sort of commonplace with every president. The difference here, though, is the prior presidents worked very feverishly, you know, very hard at getting their U.S. attorneys in place immediately. This administration has got to step up their game. And this Congress and the Senate has got to step up their game. It is dangerous where we're at. And why it's dangerous is because what you have are bureaucrats. And remember, 90 percent of those that donated to political campaigns in the Department of Justice donated to the Democrats. So you have bureaucrats that are making key decisions about how to use the most powerful tools we give to the government, the power to indict, the power to take away liberty and freedom.

38:42And let's face it, right now, the power to implement the executive branch's priorities on what should be prosecuted, what the U.S. government should be concerned about. That's not happening. Instead, what you have is acting U.S. attorneys in multiple jurisdictions, key jurisdictions who have no interest in in following or assisting this administration in implementing their priorities. OK, let me talk about solutions here about what can be done. Obviously, this is a great this is a source of great frustration to the Trump administration and the Justice Department, obviously. But we have a couple of solutions, at least that are in my mind.

39:22One of them is, why don't we just use the special counsel statute? Like, the left kept using it like crazy. And we, and I assume you too, Brett, were rightly critical of the way they were using it. But at this point, the obstruction is so immense. Why don't we just use it? In other words, Jeanine Pirro is a fully Senate-confirmed U.S. attorney. Why don't we just make her a special counsel? Why don't we just let her prosecute anywhere in the whole damn country, and then we don't have this problem anymore? Would that be a solution here? Well, the special counsel rules are slightly different, and they are more difficult to use.

40:00Now, having said that, on these particular cases, like Comey and some of the others, a special counsel might have been appropriate. I think there were many inside the department and this administration who were advising that that would be the solution. And instead, unfortunately, you know, these key cases are brought in a scenario in which there's controversy over the appointment of the U.S. attorney because there are rules that are in place and Congress needs to revisit these and change them. But there are rules on how a president can put in an interim or an acting U.S. attorney. No, but I got that.

40:34But I want to dwell on something about Jeanine Pirro, if I could, just for a moment. She is Senate confirmed because we had we've we had prior rulings down in down in Florida, of course. And this is about whether or not a special counsel was eligible, Jack Smith to even be in the role that he was unconstitutionally appointed. Jeanine Pirro wouldn't have that problem as far as I'm aware, because, again, she is Senate confirmed. She is there as the U.S. attorney in D.C. She could be made the special counsel as a result. Am I wrong about that or what's the you're not you're not wrong. You're not wrong.

41:05But certainly, Jeanine Pirro is not going to be the one digging through the evidence. It's not going to be the one that actually presents it to the grand jury, these cases. It's going to take those that are in the jurisdiction. Right. So it's got to be those that are in the jurisdiction that are bringing the cases and assisting on it. And even when you had when, for example, when you have Mueller that was in charge and, you know, the special counsel designation, who did he work with? He worked with Assistant USA's and other main justice prosecutors who could actually present the case to the applicable grand jury.

41:41Is that required or is that just a symptom of needing manpower? No, it's required because you have to have jurisdiction over the case. So Janine Pirro in Washington, D.C. would not have jurisdiction over the case, for example, over Comey. That's why it was brought in the Eastern District of Virginia. Got it. All right. That makes sense to me. Here's the other thing that in terms of addressing this, the Senate, which you're very familiar with. The reason this is a problem is because Adam Schiff has a veto over the president's U.S. attorney pick in California that basically that each of these Democrat senators in their respective states like Virginia, which has two Democrats as the senators, the Democrats get to just veto whoever the president picks to be the U.S.

42:30attorney because of something called the blue slip process in the Senate. Yeah. And Vince, that blue slip is completely made up. It's not in statute. It's not a rule. It's not a law. This is all just tradition. It's history and tradition of the U.S. Senate. Now, I'm all for tradition, but one side has already illustrated they're not willing to follow it. They'll do what they want when they need to do it. So the Republicans need to step up and understand, guess what? You applied the nuclear option on higher, more elevated appointments. You're going to have to do it now. It was a product of, you know, I think many of us saw this coming.

43:15You were going to have to do it. You are going to have to apply it to appointments and they're going to have to do it here. I mean, screw the blue slips. Stop with this. You know, this these days of old in which history and tradition, you know, and the higher ideals are operating in the Senate. It's not the case anymore. You're not going to bring it back and you better fight fire with fire. And so and as I understand it, it's not a law. It's also not even really a codified rule in the Senate either, is it? It's just a gentleman's agreement between senators. OK, so who is it up to? Is it up to Chuck Grassley as the head of the Judiciary Committee to blow past this?

43:54No, this would be this would be the majority leader. The majority leader would have to. Yeah, I mean, it would take both. I mean, Grassley would have to push out, you know, take a party vote in committee, get the get the individual out of committee, put it to the floor. And then John Thune would have to take it and ram it down the Democrats. So Grassley and Thune have to do this is the answer to that. They do. I mean, and that's that's one of the problems. Right. These are old bulls that that want to conduct themselves in a manner in which they would hope that the other side would conduct themselves.

44:31Those days are gone, Vince. Those days are gone. But they don't even enter. So like you and I are talking about this. They refuse to. They only talk about this process under duress. Like you would have to like be in the like walking through the Senate hallways and run into John Thune and ask them about the blue slip. They do not want to talk about this. They don't want to talk about getting rid of the filibuster. Partly that's because they've got people like Susan Collins and Tom Tillis and Lisa Murkowski refuse to get rid of it. But regardless, there's obstinance in the United States Senate to doing their damn jobs.

45:01And I like Chuck Grassley. I think he's done a lot of good for the country. I'm perfectly happy with that. But this is insanity to me, Brett Tolman, that we have to beg them from the outside to do the most obvious possible things. Like, as you point out, the Democrats are shitting all over tradition. They don't care about it. And and Republicans are rolling around like, well, if we get rid of this, it'll somehow be used against us in the future. It's being used against you now, you idiots. That's right. 20 years ago, I worked in the Senate and I would have told you I would have given you a different answer.

45:33I would have said, look, we need to be careful about what we do because power shifts. They're going to have power. If we do this, then they're going to do it. Do you want that? And that's how the Senate conducted itself for 200 years. However, it all changed. It all changed. And they were willing to do unbelievable things, unethical things, unconstitutional things, utilize our laws to go after their political enemies. That changed the landscape forever. We have to start fighting back. Can we do it with Chuck Grassley and Thune and others? I don't know if they don't see very quickly what's happening, that the president is not getting his U.S.

46:11attorneys and the damage that it's going to do to this country. You're not going to get the swamp out of D.C. You're not going to stop the administration or the use of the justice system to actually go after political enemies. And that's what we want done as the new administration to fix this country, put guardrails in so that we never have to see what happened over the last four years. OK, so what's going to happen if Democrats get control of the Senate again? Do they blow through the silent filibuster? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, they pack the court, they increase the number of Supreme Court positions and then they pack the court.

46:49So they have the majority. You're going to see them, you know, it's in the interest of preserving our republic. Right. Saving democracy under those under that umbrella. They will do things that destroy this country. They're going to create new states instantly. Puerto Rico and Washington, D.C., designed to create four new senators and then guarantee their own power forever. That's right. And then gerrymandering, gerrymandering gets out of control, bringing individuals in across the border illegally. They have no concept. I mean, they don't love America like, you know, we love America. They want to see it actually fall because they believe it can be rebuilt.

47:30This started with Obama and it's carried on since. And that's their agenda. And so we do need to wake up and Congress has to be part of the solution. OK, one more legal news question for you and I'll let you go. Brett Tolman, thank you for being here, former U.S. attorney. We got updates on Arctic frost this week. Arctic Frost was, you know, there's a lot of components to it, but it involved Jack Smith spying on a whole bunch of people, including a lot of members of Congress. And he did it with the sign off of the chief judge in Washington, D.C. called Judge Boasberg. There has been some effort to try and impeach Boasberg over this now.

48:12And Boasberg was supposed to testify actually this week before Congress about this. That has been postponed. The update that we just got from a variety of sources is that Bozberg allegedly didn't even know that he was signing off on spying warrants against members of Congress. That Jack Smith just approached him and said, here's a couple of phone numbers we want to go after. And he said, sure, you can do that. But I'm sorry, Brett Tolman, what is the point of a judge if you're not judging anything? If you're just being told, hey, rubber stamp this for me, would you? And you have no curiosity whatsoever about what you're signing off on?

48:53Yeah, I mean, this is I don't even know where to begin, Vince, because, you know, ever since 9-11, what we saw in the FBI and the Department of Justice was an enormous shift away from interdicting violent crime and keeping Americans safe to intelligence gathering. And they justified it under the 9-11 attacks and then the need for our national security. What did it cause? It caused judges and prosecutors to relax on the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth Amendments and to pursue out of the interest of national security, which is very vague and broad, incredible encroachments on civil liberties in this country with no checks, no transparency, no accountability.

49:41And judges have played a role in that, especially judges where they align themselves politically with the current administration at the time. Yeah. Yeah. And Bozberg's been involved in like endless parades of horrors and should have been impeached a long time ago. And yet we're still having this debate and Congress is still dragging its feet. Brett Tolman, thank you as always. Really appreciate your wisdom and insight and encouragement for our country to get better. Appreciate you, sir. Thank you, Vince. There's Brett Tolman. Good to good to chat with him today uh what do we got oh uh did you see president trump um uh gave a pardon yesterday to henry quayar the media has no idea what to do with this they have no idea what to do with it henry quayar who is a texas democrat congressman he's got a border district he spent a lot of time speaking out against um joe biden's horrific border policies you heard me correctly He's a Democrat congressman who criticized Joe Biden's border policies.

50:42Biden's Justice Department began prosecuting him, began going after him. And they indicted him on what they said were conspiracy and bribery charges. He denies these. He was they were going after him for both him and his wife. And the president came out yesterday and announced to hell with it. I'm pardoning the guy. And as the president explained it, as he posted to Truth Social, he said, look, this is a guy who was being targeted by the Biden administration because he disagreed with them. He said this is one of the clearest examples of when Crooked Joe was using the FBI and the DOJ to take out a member of his own party after the highly respected congressman Henry Cuellar bravely spoke out against open borders and the Biden border catastrophe.

51:33Sleepy Joe went after the congressman and even the congressman's wonderful wife, Imelda, simply for speaking the truth. He said it's un-American, un-American. And so President Trump has issued a pardon. Now, the media is wondering, what the hell is he doing? This is this is shocking Washington. They can't believe that President Trump would do this. Meanwhile, I can. I can believe that President Trump would do this because President Trump keeps detecting injustice. does he did this uh within in eric adams's case too in new york remember eric adams is a guy who has been uh treated like garbage garbage because he was speaking out against joe biden's disastrous border policies now was eric adams great on immigration no he wasn't is henry quay are great on everything going on with democrats no he's he's voted for all sorts of idiotic stuff but president trump knows justice department corruption when he sees it and he saw this and He goes, to hell with it.

52:29I'm giving this guy a pardon. The media has no idea what to do with it. Here's Henry Cuellar reflecting on all of this. Cut 15 saying, yeah, Joe Biden definitely targeted me because I spoke out against the open border. Watch. Do you agree with the president that the Biden administration targeted you on purpose? Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, we looked up how many times I got on national TV and national media. It was over 150 times. So I was very critical of the administration, the Biden administration. I tried very hard to get them to understand the border. I live there. They just wouldn't take it.

53:09And after that, I started criticizing them. Over 150 times national media. Doesn't include the local media. The timing of this was very suspect. You know, 40 days before an election. If you recall, I was having that primary race where they spent$20 million against me. And more things that we'll talk about that makes it very, very suspect. So good news for Andy Cuellar. He gets his pardon from President Trump. He spoke. He did speak out. It's true. I remember talking about it every time he did it. I was like, who is this Democrat speaking out against open borders? And the reason for that is he's got a district where the constituents say, I don't want my borders open.

53:54And so they got Henry Cuellar as their lawmaker. And here's what Henry Cuellar needs to do now. You ready? Come on, Congressman. Become a Republican. Become a Republican. Pull the Jim Justice. Pull the, what was that guy's name up in New Jersey? Van Drew. Do what Van Drew did. Now's the time. Now's the time. Become a Republican. There's all this chatter right now about like, oh no, President Trump did a favor in a competitive district for a Democrat. That's not going to help the Republican win there. OK, fine. Become a Republican and start voting with the Republicans, not just on the border, but with everything else.

54:31Get on board with the Trump agenda. Open your eyes. Take a look at who's actually on your side. It might be the guy who just hardened you from the persecution you were receiving from the Democrats and join the fight. do what Tulsi Gabbard did switch parties and join the America first the make America great again movement how about it we did our part we put Trump in office and Trump just pardoned you and what are you going to do for us come on son now's your chance all right coming up today the big national radio show whatever updates come out on that pipe bomber the suspect taken into custody this morning we'll cover the details on the radio program you can find your local listings the thevinceshow.com or watch us on Rumble, rumble.com slash Vince.

55:20Always great to have you. You can join me in the chat. It's so fun. And I'll be back with you tomorrow with a big update on everything we're learning all ahead on this program. Vince, great to have you with us today.