I Changed My Mind (Ep. 2509)

25:25And so you have to say, is this election going to be a referendum on the Republicans, in which case that's bad, or is it going to be a choice? And are the Republicans going to be able to make it a choice? If they do that, when I ask, who do you have more confidence in to handle the economy, Trump and the Republicans or the Democrats in Congress, Trump and the Republicans win that 53 to 47. So yes, people are really suffering in terms of the way they perceive the economy, and they're unhappy with the way it's going, but the Democrats haven't stepped up and shown that they will do a better job. And that's why I think this election, although usually the in-party goes out, is still closer than most people think.

26:09I saw some of you in the chat commenting on that video. I think it was Charlie B. Curran on X, that Spencer Pratt video. But this point by Mark Penn is brilliant. I don't care he's a Democrat. He's correct. we cannot make this election a pure referendum on republicans why because there are a lot of people out there democrats independents and some folks who just didn't want any kind of hostilities in iran at all who just aren't happy it's always gonna you're never gonna have donald trump has really high approval no doubt about but donald trump's not on the ballot in every state if it was donald trump running in every senate and congressional seat i'm perfectly happy with where we are right now, but he's not.

26:52We can't make it a referendum purely on Republicans. We have to engage in part two. We have to make contrasts. We have to paint a picture of what the other side looks like, too. Full circle. That's why this Spencer Pratt video, I'll call it, is so powerful. You're reminded that even if you don't know who Spencer Pratt is, you know who the hell Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, and Karen Bass are, and they suck! We can't make this midterm a pure referendum. I'm comfortable in our record, happy with that record, but some people just have a different policy position on stuff. But once that policy position, well, I don't like the warring around.

27:34Okay, you want Joe Biden inflation? You want Joe Biden open board? Well, I don't want that. Okay, we win. I'll take it. You get it? Listen to me. Brain tattoo. Referendum choice. Referendum choice. You always want to make it a choice election because we are just better than them. Our solutions are better. Our policies are better. Our growth policies, our policing policies, public safety policies, all of it. Brilliant by Mark Penn. All right, I'm gonna take a quick break and this is gonna be a little difficult because I don't like being wrong about stuff, but I'm pretty convinced I was. I'll find out one day from the Almighty and so will you.

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30:40You know that. That's fairly obvious if you just study the history of the matter. It's already happened. There's no running away from it for the Democrats. I am proud to have been part of a Trump Justice Department that took the exact opposite approach. We are going in and pulling violent animals off the street. So if you haven't heard about this case and you're not ready for this, I understand if you want to tune out now because it's not an easy segment. And no, I'm not going to play the video of the FedEx truck. I'm sorry. I'm not doing it. I can't. I don't want to see it. and i but there is a um an animal i don't want to say animal because i lucy's an animal in it um a demon by the name of uh tanner homer who was sentenced yesterday uh to death for the murder of Athena Strand, a six-year-old young girl who was kidnapped, put in the back of a FedEx truck where this individual was a driver.

31:43What happened to her was caught some of it on video, some on audio. The audio was apparently so disturbing that cries for help and elsewhere, It's just hard to talk about, man. I'm really sorry that the people in the courtroom are all in tears. So I'm just going to play this for you. This is the judge. The sound is not amazing. It's a little low, but it's it's worth your time. It's about 30 seconds of his sentencing where this demon is sentenced to death. So just take a look at this. You will be caused to die in accordance with the rules and regulations established by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice.

32:27until you, the said Tanner Horner, are dead. Said execution procedure shall be determined and supervised by the director of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice. The clerk of this court shall issue a death warrant in accordance with this sentence directed to the director of the Texas Department of Criminal Justice for that purpose. The clerk shall deliver such warrant to the sheriff of this county and to be, by him, delivered to the director of the Department of Criminal Justice together with you and you will remand to the custody of the tarrant county jail to await transportation tanner horner i don't even want to mention this this this uh i don't i don't i don't know i i don't know it's a talk show i don't i don't i don't really have the adjectives or adverbs to describe this level of evil i'm not playing what happened it's a conscious choice if you want i suggest you don't watch it i i or listen to it i really do because it will scar you forever like it has me ladies and gentlemen this case has so deeply impacted um my life that every time i go on to twitter i've had to like mute words that's how disturbing it is now in the past i have not been a supporter of the death penalty and i'll tell you there have been really very few shows over the years where my own audience has kind of rebelled against a position.

34:05That's okay. This is not a monarchy. The Dan Bongino show, we're not collectivists. I am not your boss. I'm not your king. I'm none of that. I'm one of you. I'm just a guy with an opinion that may differ from you. And I was not a supporter of the death penalty. And I think I owe you an explanation as to why I've explained it in the past, but some of you are new to the show. I felt that given this modern technological advancement we have of sophisticated incarceration, that if there was even a mild chance at salvation, that being a Christian, albeit not always a great one, but I try, that if Jesus wanted to save someone, that we should give them the shot.

34:51That was my reason. however i think that's a luxury modern society affords us that our ancestors didn't have when you didn't have technologically advanced prisons and human beings were living in you know tribes and small communities the chance of someone getting out and escaping like this individual and doing this again was great so was high so sometimes a lot of times they had to take drastic action and make harsh decisions like the penalty of death. I think I've been

35:33satiated by that luxury that, oh yeah, you know, one day Jesus could save them. And Jesus can do what he wants. He's omnipotent. But this is an evil so great that the only solution is death.

35:57The only solution is death. That is a malignancy so dangerous that the idea you could contain it in some kind of a capsule is so unfair to other kids if that capsule were to break and this were to happen again, the blood would be on the hands of people like me who did not support extinguishing it. And it is really unfair to the audience to continue to support that position. I can't. And maybe it's because, like I said, this has been a gradual change. I've been thinking about this for a long time. I don't take policy positions like the death penalty, which is obviously tautologically final lightly, ever.

36:47I've been thinking about this for a while, But if there were some Paul getting knocked from the horse on the road to Damascus moment, if there were me watching that video and listening to that sound, there's some evil so profound that the risk is just too great. It's one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen. so as i said to you before as my audience you deserve the truth from me and when i'm wrong i'm wrong and i was wrong about that and i should have probably listened to some of your feedback i forget when i did the show it doesn't matter three or four years ago but i had mentioned i was i just mentioned it casually i don't even think it was the subject of a segment and man we got so many emails and some of your emails were spot on i remember one i saw off and and i don't even like to say, but what if it was a member of your family?

37:45And I said, you know what? You're right. That's kind of hypocritical because I'd be the first one out there, you know, probably violently killing this person to get my own retribution. But then when it's someone else's, it just, you were right. So I want to thank you, the audience, for number one, staying on top of me and not treating this show like I'm some kind of, you know, special deity. I'm not. I have no X-Men superpowers. I'm just a guy. I do politics and issues for a living because I enjoy it. However, this has been one of the more unenjoyable but necessary segments I think I've ever done.

38:27Folks, having said that, I'm going to tell you something. I have never in my life been prouder ever about accepting the role I took over the past year. And having seen a lot of this stuff, I'm just here to tell you to the public safety moms and dads out there who see this story and say, that better never happen to my kid. This stuff happens a lot. It's not caught on video and audio as often, and it doesn't get the media attention, but this is not an isolated case. I'm not just talking about the kidnapping. I'm talking about violent crime in general to women, to men, to kids, to teens. Some of the stuff we would hear every day in FBI headquarters will change your life, and I'm not talking about for the better.

39:19We've got a choice coming up in the midterms as well. And ladies and gentlemen, law and order is not negotiable. So I am begging those public safety, law enforcement, safe streets, moms and dads to please make a choice. because when you see crime like this up close and personal all that defund the police shit you can roll it up in a ball and shove it right up your

39:49chai over at libs at tiktok put out this tweet yesterday it was about police body cams again going back to the video the fedex uh the fedex demon with the young girl she notes police body cams ended the entire BLM grift. This might be the greatest backfire in history. You are damn right. Look at some of the imagery from police body cams. We were told about all these everything's racist to them. The majority of this crime is perpetrated on minority communities including the black community. Look at some of the images from police body cams. These are years ago before police body cams. Greatest backfire in history and I had said this.

40:31You know, if you listen to my show, I've said this over and over. There were some people, a small group of people on the right, body cams are intrusive. They're going to be abused. And I said, the body cam is the greatest invention ever because I know cops. I've been with the NYPD, the Secret Service, and the FBI. I think I'm the only person ever done those three. I've seen it all. And the cops out there I know are good guys. And when you see those images, put those back up there, you're going to tell me like this was racism? I'm not telling you there's not use of force incidents that shouldn't have happened and we should prosecute those vigorously and harshly.

41:07I'm just telling you, forget the stupid race arguments and all this crap.

41:16There was a video I saw on X yesterday. I think his name is, forgive me if I'm saying it wrong, Alex Karakatanis. He's talking about this body cam issue. how liberals are now so disturbed that their racist cop, racist cop narratives are falling apart because people are seeing it. They're seeing it now. They're like, gosh, I would have done the same thing, defended my life. They're seeing what crime looks like. You even have the mayor of Seattle, Katie Wilson, wants to pull down police cameras in the street because she doesn't want you to see what's going on because she knows you'll never vote for the defund the police Democrats again.

42:01Here's this guy, Karakatanis, freaking out about police body cams because they're realizing their entire defund the police grift is going away. Check this out. In the wake of Michael Brown, we'll market it to low information, people in the public, to well-meaning liberal people. We'll market it as accountability and transparency. And so they totally shifted, and then they were able to get hundreds of millions of dollars toward their goal of outfitting every single cop in the United States with a mobile surveillance camera that the police control. They control when it's on, when it's off, what it captures, when something is captured, it's released to the public.

42:40So if the police capture, let's say, an undocumented immigrant committing some crime, that's out on Fox News and the New York Post within hours. But if they capture the police doing something horrific, The public may never see that video. So body cameras are a mirage. And as I write in the Copaganda book, and it's really critical to understand exactly how it happens, not only do they not reduce police violence, but they have been an essential propaganda tool in convincing so many well-meaning people across our society that the authorities care about police violence, that they want accountability, that they're doing something, right?

43:14And it distracts people from the core important kinds of changes that we need, which is to reduce the size and power of these bureaucracies. You believe this bullshit? This guy's not concerned about reducing the size and power of the criminal workforce. He's concerned about reducing the police bureaucracies, a euphemism for defund the police. Why? Why does he hate police body cameras so much? because the truth has always been the enemy of liberalism and progressivism. Always. Every single thing they tell you is bullshit bumper sticker politics. Defund the police. Tax the rich. Healthcare for all.

44:01You're like, well, Dan, those things all sound great if you're a liberal. Until you realize defund the police results in people getting killed quickly in the street. tax the rich and they leave and you have no jobs. Health care for all means health care for none as they start to ration health care. See, we've had to tell people the truth. And the body cam, the body cam and crime have completely destroyed the left wing narrative on policing in America. There is no body cam for tax the rich. There's not a liberal mayor with a body cam at the border of Florida watching, you know, Washington resident crossover and on body cam.

44:41Hey, I'm Katie Wilson, the mayor of Seattle. Why did you leave Washington? Because of your shitty tax policies. You don't see body cam evidence of that. The liberal racist cop defund the police argument is entirely collapsed. And now the same liberals who swore body cams were the solution, the panacea, the elixir are now freaking out because the story they told their people about the racist cop violently mowing down unarmed black men in the street turns out to be a total fabrication of bullshit. So now they want to hide it. Now they want to hide it. Folks, the greatest honor of my life was that last year.

45:25I'm telling you, man, there's nothing like it. I was up in D.C. and maybe I'll show you sometime. And Cash gave me this nice little plaque he had put together as really kind of more my heart a little bit. I wasn't expecting that. I was up there for someone else. But he's still knocking it out of the park, man. And they say he, I mean him and the agents doing the work. I want you to look at this yesterday. Operation Iron Pursuit. A lot of people out there claiming to care about kids and child abuse. I don't understand why they don't want to talk about this stuff. We've rescued thousands of children From criminality Thousands We had enduring justice Restoring justice Here's another op I'm obviously out This was his I'm not taking credit for it I've been out for three months However Operation Iron Pursuit 200 plus child victims located 350 subjects arrested The highest number on a similar op In the last 14 months Nationwide child abuser takedown All 56 FBI field offices participated.

46:30Lives saved. Families reunited. Violent criminals crushed. You want to save kids or not? Or you just want to talk about it on X? This stuff is happening. This is on the ballot. What do you mean? Cash? No, cash isn't on the ballot. The Trump agenda is on the ballot in the midterms. You want to go back to, you know, endless subpoenas for Trump officials for cracking down on child predators? Rather than actually going out there catching child predators, vote for Democrats. Because that's what you're going to get. Cash was on Hannity's podcast, Hang Out with Hannity. And here's about a minute. He was talking about the violent crime push.

47:10Folks, this is real. You do not want another incident like that incident with the FedEx driver. I can't look at another one of those. I can't hear about it. That's the end. That's got to stop right now. You got a guy in charge now who gets it. He understands the assignment. Here he is talking about what we did on violent crime. The numbers are staggering. Check this out. In 2025, in one year under President Trump's leadership, this FBI arrested 40 ,000 violent criminals. That's not the total arrest the FBI had. That number is closer to 80 ,000. But the 40 ,000 violent criminals we arrested, Sean, was 112 % increase from 2024.

47:55112 % increase. If this FBI under Donald Trump did nothing else but that, that is the only thing the mainstream media would be talking about if it was a President Kamala Harris. Now go behind the numbers. How can there be 40 ,000 violent criminals to arrest by just the FBI in one year? Break that down by state. 50 states. You do the math. We're talking murderers, rapists, pedophiles, gangbangers, terrorists, everybody that wants to harm our way of life that President Trump stood up and ran on and said, we are going to crush violent crime. That's what we did. That number alone is emblematic of two things.

48:32One, President Trump is the absolute most successful president in U.S. history in reducing crime in the history of America. And two, why are there so many violent criminals in the United States of America? And you hit on it. The open borders policy and the lax rules laid out by the opponents of President Trump to be pro-crime. Remember, these are the defund the blue movement people to defund law enforcement. Trump resourced law enforcement and the FBI. So that number, 40 ,000 violent criminals, 112 % increase in the first year under President Trump. Hat tip over to News for cutting that for us.

49:14Folks, the reason I played that clip of Cash is a couple of things. Number one, notice how he puts credit where it is. You guys voted for President Trump. You didn't vote for me or Cash. That's just a fact. President Trump appointed people, but it's his mission. We just put the pieces and the tactics together to do it. I appreciate him doing that. You met people. Yes. Well, thank you, Justin. It's very nice of you to say, but votes are policy. He said people are policy, but votes are policy too. You voted for President Trump You guys made this happen Those violent criminals would be on the street right now That's a fact And you'd see other cases like Athena Strand But second, a part I frequently leave out Is President Trump was adamant And Cash brought up part two It's not just getting the violent criminals He says, why are they here?

50:03A lot of them are here Because of Joe Biden Obama and others weak-kneed Republicans in the past and their unwillingness to do anything about illegal immigration where a lot of these gangbangers were coming into the country. President Trump said, no, get them the hell out. And now you're seeing massive reductions in the homicide rate and crime across the board.

50:30Folks, that is all on the ballot in November. Make no mistake. You want safe streets or you want endless congressional subpoenas. It's your choice. You voted for this change. And thank you for doing it. You want to see what's on the ballot too? I'm not going to be a hypocrite, right? I told you, well, Dan, paint some contrast. You just told us the good news, violent crime getting crushed, all of this stuff that was accomplished under President Trump's DOJ and FBI. Great. You want to see the contrast? I saw this video of Ilhan Omar. Ilhan Omar, she's like a goddess on the left. They love her. Small g.

51:09Here she is talking about what the Democrats are going to do if they win with the courts. You want the Supreme Court pact? The Democrats, they're not hiding it. They're not dancing around it. They're not using euphemisms. They're outright saying, we want to pack the courts. What does pack the courts mean to you? Packing the courts means Every single level Of the federal court system Will be populated by liberals Who don't believe in the rule of law Legislate from the bench Every victory we've had Budget victory, school choice, abortion, guns All of it Pro-life movements, all of it Will get thrown out because the courts I told you, through judicial activists Are now the most powerful branch of government Because they've usurped power from the other two Here she is, here's the whole other one just talking about it.

51:59I don't need to use my words. Just listen to hers. Check this out. Congress can change the number of justices on the court at any time and has done so seven times throughout our history. Since 1989, the last time the court was expanded, the U.S. population has grown by over 800%. Yet the court has stayed stagnant at nine justices. In the face of a stolen seat, a sitting justice implicated in a coup attempt and a dangerous crisis of legitimacy, this common sense reform should absolutely be at the table. Who do you want in the midterms governing? Do you want Ilhan Omar as a chair of a committee in Congress, you know, subpoenas for impeachment again?

52:58Or do you want Besson, Rubio, Vance, Trump, people like Brandon Gill out there? It's your choice. You have made the right choice over and over. Thank you, the American voter, for picking Donald Trump and Donald Trump for picking people, Justin's correct, who are instituting policies leading to a better America now. But you got to that concrete has to dry. That concrete has to dry. Do you want that, Ilhan Omar, a PAC Supreme Court, or do you want the Trump administration and all of the positive news about the border, about the economy, public safety, violent crime? It's your choice. We got to get out and do.

53:40Talk is no good. Here's another contrast. You want to make the United States more like California? California is part of the United States. It sure is. California has picked a certain direction Here is a CNN segment Where they almost accidentally stumble on the truth Remember I told you Democrats never tell you the truth Defund the police That's why body cams don't work for them Because body cams showed you what crime actually looks like And the whole racist cop narrative went out the window Here's a CNN segment that's like a body cam On liberal Democrats complaining about gas prices Ah gas prices Meanwhile, the Biden administration's had a far bigger problem with gas prices than the Trump team, and they've only been acute and temporary.

54:24Why is California struggling with high gas prices? Maybe it's because California taxes the shit out of their citizens at the pump. Watch CNN just back into this and be like, well, you want a contrast? Keep voting for Democrats and you will California, the United States, and you will be paying more for the pump no matter what happens in the street. Check this out. Oh, my goodness gracious. I mean, just take a look at the price of gasoline for a gallon of gas. The national average right now is$4.48, but you think that's bad. Go out to the left coast, top in the United States,$6.13. There's even a gas station out there where the cost is about$10 per gallon.

55:04And of course, if you've ever been out there, you always know that the prices in California for a gallon of gas are just simply put absolutely outrageous, running well ahead of the national average. The folks in California really getting hurt by this increase in gas prices. Part of the reason for that is they have a higher gas tax, right? That's exactly right. One of the big reasons why you see this big difference right here is, in fact, the gas tax out in California. And our partners at USA Facts help provide this data for us. Take a look here at the state gas tax and fees per gallon. You know, in the average state, it's 33 cents.

55:38California, again, the top in the nation, more than double that. It's 71 cents. That's an economic body cam. Police body cams debunk the racist cop narrative. That's a CNN economic body cam. Lifetime footage of why you're paying a lot for gas in California. You're paying way more in taxes than an acute temporary hike due to what's going on in the straight has ever caused you pain in your wallet. It's your state government, your blue state government, helping you by taxing the shit out of you. There's CNN like walking backwards into it. Well, you mean it's because of the gas tax? Yes! You have a choice.

56:24Just like Spencer Pratt in that video play. You have a choice. You want Karen Bass, Gavin Newsom, Ilhan Omar, AOC, Bernie Sanders, Liz Warren? You want more powwow chow? You got a choice, brother. You got a choice, sister. You got to go out and do. Your country's not going to take itself back. You have to do it. You got to do it, man. Oh, my goodness gracious. Oh, I heard them inside. There's like a little bubble in there. It's hard to hear. I heard Justin. Oh, my goodness gracious. Harry Enten, man. I really enjoy his segments on CNN. Not all great. Sometimes the poll numbers aren't good. but he seems to be giving you a pretty balanced picture.

57:09Folks, this movement is real, man. I'm telling you, we have an opportunity here to take the country back and let the concrete dry.

57:22Don't give up, by the way, on the Virginia gerrymander. The Virginia gerrymander. Here is a liberal commentator. Just for everyone's about to freak out. We're going to lose all these seats in Virginia. There is a chance this may get wiped out in the Virginia Supreme Court. It's not a great chance, but it's a chance. I want you to listen to Dan Turrentine talk about exactly this. There's a shot that could get thrown out to, which would be even worse for the Democrats in the midterm. Check this out. I talked to some of those same people yesterday, and what I was told is they now think it's less than 50 percent that the court will let the certification go through.

58:00And what really triggered it, they said, was when the court didn't rule by Friday afternoon. They they the time they don't believe is on their side. And what apparently transpired over the weekend, and this person would know they're in contact with the people I'm about to say, is that the governor's staff is now snipping at the Senate majority leader and House speaker that they warned them last fall this would not pass legal review. Okay, one more piece of unbelievably good news for you, which the pillars and the doomers don't want to hear about for the midterms that you need to go out and vote in and take your country back.

58:43Here's a quick Fox segment. Not only may they lose in Virginia and not get the four seats they thought they were going to get, Democrat seats in Virginia in the midterms, due to the Supreme Court now making illegal racially discriminated districts, which the Democrats love, and I'll talk to Vince in a minute about, Fox is reporting that some redistricting efforts in southern states may net us a couple more seats in the midterms. So I don't want to hear the doomerism. Check this out. We're looking at a situation where Democrats may not actually pick up the seats that they wanted to pick up in Virginia, And Republicans might end up picking a total of five if you include Alabama, Tennessee and Louisiana.

59:29Obviously, in Louisiana, that was the court case that the Supreme Court ruled on where they have no choice but to go back and actually change those maps. And they could be looking at changing those maps to down to just one Democrat district. Folks, don't give up. Don't give up. Please, oh my goodness gracious, do not give up. Get out there and do 10, 10, and 10. Get 10 people to the polls. Email them, call them, make 10 social media posts. That's our job. Your forefathers sacrificed a lot to give you this amazing country that's finally on the right track again. Let the concrete dry. Give President Trump two more years.

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1:01:49welcoming back to the show we're uh lucky to have him every other wednesday and i do his great radio show every wednesday so one of us is on each other's show every week the great vince colon aces at rumble.com slash vince vince thanks for joining us today i appreciate it dan oh my gosh as always thanks man for having me well i have to thank you listen it's been such an honor to work with you uh you know brought you on board with the team uh you were gracious enough to fill in for me when I was gone. I just saw this from Stream Charts yesterday. The Bongino Report channel, which you anchor, number 10 Rumble video channel by peak viewers.

1:02:24So you're just absolutely crushing it. Listen, man, you're in a spot. You kind of own the 8 a.m. spot, but it's not the easiest spot in the world. And you pretty much dominate there. So congratulations, man. Really great work on that.

1:02:36Dan Bongino:I love it. I mean, I love doing it. I love the audience. We really have such a great audience, Dan, between the two of us. And I love that right now we're bookending rumble. It's like the whole rumble chart is controlled by us right now. But I'd like to nestle my way up even closer to where you are. I feel like you need some company up there. So I'm heading my way up there. You're getting there. Listen, it's not there. I think, you know, we could kind of both acknowledge that this is like the live stream environment for politics right now is good, but it's not great. It's kind of like right around election season, midterms, and, you know, three, four months prior.

1:03:09And for a presidential, that's like the Super Bowl. that's when political talk radio just explodes your radio ratings are going to go bananas uh they're already great but they'll be they're just better and the analogy i try to give people is you can be the most interesting political commentator in the world imagine just trade out politics for sports a week after the super bowl i don't really care you could be mike and the mad dog or whatever people are just like kind of done for like super bowl's over you know so i'm really proud that you've succeeded pulling a massive audience and at the bongino army continues used to show up.

1:03:41And I mean, I think we have to be candid. Having Donald Trump in the White House doesn't hurt. Like this guy's just a news machine every day.

1:03:48Dan Bongino:He is. Let me let me also add one other element. And I don't know how interesting this is the audience, but I just want to say this. I haven't said this to you yet, but I learned a lot about this format by sitting in your chair for the year that I did, because I thought I knew what I was getting into. And the truth is, I really didn't. You don't know it until you do it. And, you know, radio is a different is actually a very different vehicle. Like I had, I had, I've had success in radio. I understand the format. I, and, and what people especially have relied on me for in DC was news. Like I was bringing them the latest news.

1:04:19Dan Bongino:I'd give them some analysis, but in podcasting, what's different is the relationship you have with the audience is so essential. It's so intimate. And, um, and I had watched you for years. I had seen the way you had done it, but I hadn't really internalized why you were such a success. And I started to piece it together after I started doing this for a time and I'm a slow learner. But as I started doing it, I realized, well, Dan personalizes this. Dan, you let people into your life in ways that other mediums don't, and certainly other hosts don't. People know your wife's name. They know what her interests are.

1:04:51Dan Bongino:They know all sorts of details about you. And these were not things that I had ever really done. I had kind of guarded against that because I thought it was too inward looking. I thought it was too like kind of talking about myself is not what I'm supposed to do. But it turns out there is a middle ground. People want to know the person they're dealing with. They want to know what kind of person they are and what kind of life they lead. And so for the first time ever, I started saying Allison's name on the air. I started talking about like my personal life, my dogs and like, and the things that animate me.

1:05:19Dan Bongino:And that connection with the audience, that's something I learned from you, Dan. And as a result, I think it's paid off. I think what they come to me now for is not just the news, they can get that on X. People can turn on a social media feed on Truth Social and they can scroll it. What they want from us is that connection and also that analysis, that sense of, okay, what does this really mean and where is it going from here yeah they're tuning in to hear a guy they know they know it's an asymmetric relationship they know you but you don't know all of them but they know you you talk about allison and what you know date night on the weekend and you had a good time watching some movie or something or you they know you you may not know every one of them but they have tuning in for vince's take you right anybody can get the news go to bongino report judge report breitbart whatever i mean whatever it's not that they want to hear what you think about it that's different right and also with the live stream which is different than radio radio live stream is like having you know if you have 20 000 streamers it's like having 20 000 callers on the show at the same time participate it's totally different than radio it just is and i think you well i the other piece of that is i had to learn not to respond to every critique like i'm seeing in the so like i we get a lot of great people in our chat we have all these great people on our chat but i remember early on when i was hosting it again in your in your time slot on on rumble i'd see somebody say something like some troll came in and say something nasty and then all of a sudden my attention is just like totally thrown off and i'm like dunking on the guy for the next 10 minutes and i was like what am i doing why am i beating up on this and he would be like move on brother move on he'd be like we get it dan we get it like yeah troll 672 in the chat said you're a d-bag like move on like yeah i'm glad you figured that out So listen, move on to some really sad, tragic news of the day.

1:07:05I discussed this in the beginning of the show. I don't really change my mind that often. And it's not that I'm hardheaded. It's just the whole essence of conservatism, Vince, is conserving good ideas. And if you believe in good ideas, they should be longitudinally valid. You shouldn't change your mind all the time. However, I've been considering this for a long time. I was not a death penalty supporter. You know, I believe that while we have incarceration as an option, if we can isolate the problem and there was a chance at salvation, you know, we should take it. However, having long considered this, because my audience really did not like that position, and that's okay.

1:07:44We don't have to agree on everything. But watching this Athena Strand case, I just, it's hard for me to even discuss the six-year-old girl murdered by the FedEx driver who got the death penalty yesterday, discussed it earlier. there's some evil on this planet, Vince, that it's the shot at salvation is not worth the risk of an escape or something like that. And another horrific, atrocious, demonic tragedy like this.

1:08:09Dan Bongino:I agree with you. And in fact, I kind of think I've gone through a similar evolution, although I don't know if I was ever hard and fast on the subject. But I always had a temptation to feel like, well, there's always some path for somebody, even if they've done something horrible. and who are we to judge in the end and that kind of thing. I've gone through all of that. But stories like this force me to arrive at the same conclusion that you've arrived at, which is that there are some people that we need to kill. We need to kill. And we need to administer the death penalty in a just way. We need real deliberation.

1:08:41Dan Bongino:We need to be certain that this is the right person. We can't be in any way doubtful that we've got the right person. I hate to see any mistake made in this front at all because this is an irreversible mistake if it's made. But a guy like this, that soulless, that disgraceful, that disgusting, that much callous indifference, it requires real consequence. There are some people who just deserve the death penalty. And this is, and by the way, as a theological matter for the Catholics out there, I'm Catholic, this has been something that the church has wrestled with forever for obvious reasons. There's a reason that this has been a big wrestling match because it's about the dignity of the human person.

1:09:22Dan Bongino:How do we uphold, fundamentally, how do we uphold the dignity of the human person? And if you impose fatal consequences on people who commit the most vile demonic acts on humanity and rob people of their lives, well, that's a good correction. And this is one of those areas where I'm like, hey, let God sort them out. Let God sort them out. because at this moment, I think it's, I'm convinced. I'm watching you on the screen here, struggling to find the words to describe this incident, just like I was. Like, what was it? Atrocious? It's not a true, beyond it. Tragic? Beyond, it doesn't, nothing sums it up.

1:10:04Matter of fact, I see the, I didn't even put it on the show, but the grainy black and white footage from the FedEx truck where this atrocity, again, I can't even, it happened. And I have to scroll past it. But I've struggled with this for a long time, Vince, because I thought to myself, modern society has given us the luxury of this question. I think this through like we're back in the 1800s. You're in a village of people, a tribe, a village, whatever it may be. You have a guy like this who does this to a six year old in the village. There's no like incarceration option comfortable. You're not going to have a maximum security.

1:10:42But what are you going to tie him to a pole and like feed him everything? The risk of him doing this again is so great. There really was no choice. You had to kill them. Like it wasn't a luxury because the immediate threat was here. We have this modern society luxury of supermax prisons and others where it provides us a level of comfortability where we're like, well, at least a person will be locked away. Maybe there's a chance. And I think I kind of use that as a backstop too much. And I think that's kind of like you brought in the theological component of this. This kind of goes to the argument between Pope Leo and President Trump right now.

1:11:15You know, Pope Leo, I think, is oversimplifying this military action in Iran. You know, God doesn't look kindly on those who wage war. Yeah, I get that. Like, death is obviously a bad thing if it's not natural. However, sometimes, like you said, sometimes we just have to kill people to prevent a larger mass killing.

1:11:35Dan Bongino:How do you uphold the dignity of the human person? That's the question. How do you do that? And you take out the bad guys. You have to. And lower level offenses require lower level consequences. But this is the highest level offense. It deserves the highest level consequence. And I and you you're so right about like, you know, what the world used to be like? How would you just go to the simple math here? If this was my daughter and I found out somebody was doing this to my daughter, I would kill you myself. Yeah, of course. I would kill you myself. Right. And you don't even care if you were given a death penalty.

1:12:08You're like, that's fine. I'll trade my life just to make sure like that person. No, that's exactly right.

1:12:12Dan Bongino:So under those circumstances, as an individual, you assess that, which is sometimes why I'm kind of like I'm gratified by street justice and rare occasions. Like I'm like, I'm glad somebody took that guy out. I'm glad I'm glad there was a good guy with a gun to take that guy out at that moment. Forget the justice system. We took him out then. That's fine. but this is why we have a civilized justice system to handle this and a civilized response, a truly civilized response is to put this man to death. You know, it's weird too how we as human beings, we have this, you know, it's kind of good in a way we have this impulse to want to seek salvation.

1:12:47We always see that guy on, you know, the good thief on the cross story from the Bible. And we always think salvation's around the corner, but the hard reality is we're very primal. I mean when you and I watched Denzel in Man on Fire When he's you know he's the bodyguard for the young girl gets kidnapped And he goes out and just like kills every single All of us are quietly in a movie The reason the movie was so popular is every one of us was like yes So it's like we're kind of being a little I know it's a movie at all But we are very primal in that respect No that's true We kind of seek our own retribution Let me move on to this story

1:13:22Dan Bongino:No I know I mean even John Wick man Even the John Wick movies His dog gets killed he kills everybody Kills the guy's dog. The guy wipes out the whole Russian mob. No, you're so right. So on a more positive note, that being a horrible story, obviously, I know because I was just chatting with you briefly before we came on the air this morning about your success and everything. This Trump endorsement in Indiana. So long story short, the Indiana, a bunch of Indiana Republicans at the state level did not want to vote to redistrict the state, which would have been, you know, a real positive net positive.

1:13:56Donald Trump comes in and says, come on, let's get to it. Like Democrats are doing this too. Primary last night just cleans up. I think it's what, six out of seven he wins. And a lot of these were incumbents, Vince. You've been involved in politics a long time. It is really, really hard to unseat an incumbent. But that Trump endorsement is as like solid gold as you're going to find in politics.

1:14:17Dan Bongino:It's a sign of energy, I think, from two important groups of people. One is, I say it's a group as the president of the United States. But the other group is us. it's MAGA. It's people who care about the country. Yeah, they're the one that's a good point. You know, Kurt Schlichter, I showed a post from Kurt Schlichter, I like Kurt, this morning on my show. And Kurt said, you know, if any rhino, if any of these establishment people think that this goes away when President Trump is done, it's not going away. This energy is staying. The American people now have a very long memory for the people who've betrayed them.

1:14:49Dan Bongino:And we will come for you. There will be consequences for you. There'll be real political consequences for you because we want to stock up the leadership of this country with people who care about it as much as we do. And so in Indiana, just to remind people of the stakes here, if you – Stephen Miller had an assessment. Stephen Miller at the White House, he had an assessment earlier this week that upwards of 40-plus seats right now in the House of Representatives have been stolen by Democrats by virtue of what they've done through election rigging, through bringing in illegal aliens and through these racist districts that they've drawn.

1:15:21Dan Bongino:It's just a disaster. So over 40 seats. What were we asking Indiana to do last year? Two. We were asking for two Republican leaning seats in the state by virtue of trying to regain some of that ground in the way the maps were drawn. That's what President Trump was asking for. And he actually made a promise. He said on the day of the vote in the state Senate, he said, anybody who votes against this, you should know that in the spring, a primary is coming your way, just to give you a sense of the stakes here. They didn't listen. They voted no. And sure enough. It wasn't a surprise, Vince. He warned them and they did it anyway.

1:15:55Dan Bongino:Sure enough. And so you get this. This is a massive story. And this is not only a big victory for people who believe in saving this country and who actually know what time it is and know precisely how the left plays, which is not by the rules at all. They don't have an appealing thing for voters, so they have to rig the system. This is a warning shot to the establishment in Washington as well. If you're a senator right now who's still sitting on your ass and not passing the Save America Act and think the rest of us are going to go away, I'm going to tell you something right now. You're going to be out of a job.

1:16:25Dan Bongino:You're going to lose. You're going to be thrown out. And we're going to put somebody in who will actually get the work of the American people done. So yesterday is not merely some one-state event. This is a clear sign to anybody who sits inside of the status quo Republican Party who thinks they can go along to get along, who's happy to be in the minority, who's happy not to have to do anything for the American people. We are going to fire you. Just wait for your turn. Yeah, folks, if you're enjoying Vince's content like I do, rumble.com slash Vince. Give him a follow. It is free. You can join him live every day at 8 a.m.

1:17:040800 Eastern Time. You can also watch him on demand anytime. You know, Vince, that gets me thinking about a couple of things. The Republican bench, which I'll get to in a second. But second, I had addressed yesterday a multi-point plan that we're already halfway home, that if we were to enact, you would have generational victories for the Republican Party. We just haven't been able to hold. The Reagan revolution, the Tea Party, it all got a lot of momentum. And then boom, Democrats come back. We get Obamacare and all this other crap. We're already through with the racial gerrymanders of the Louisiana case.

1:17:32So we're good there. Seal the border. We're good there. You don't get an influx of illegals. Census reform. We need that in 2030. Can't count illegals. You don't count illegals. All of a sudden, you get an accurate population of U.S. citizens. Democrat blue states where people are leaving are going to lose power. SAVE Act, you just mentioned. Get the SAVE Act through. You're not going to have any more of this garbage, ballot, harvesting, cheating nonsense. Going to enforce citizenship and ID. Dump the filibuster. I know there's some different opinions on that. That was part of my plan. At least a talking filibuster and some filibuster reform.

1:18:04You do that, Vince. Steve Miller, I saw that tweet about the 40 seats the Democrats have immorally and unethically gained in Congress. We would have a Republican House, probably a Republican Senate. And because of the Electoral College ramifications of population loss in blue states, probably a Republican president. We could have it for 15, 20, 30 years.

1:18:24Dan Bongino:Yes. And you'd have a better Democrat party. You'd have a party that actually would have to appeal to voters. Yes. If the rules of the game are enforced, you have to play by them. That's the point. So if you want a two-party system that functions, that's an actual exchange of ideas, that's competing on the margins just about, OK, which one of these options is better for the country? You should want everything that Dan Bongino just laid out, all five of those elements. And I mean Democrat voters. I mean lifelong Democrat voters. You should want everything that Dan Bongino just laid out because the current system is not working for you.

1:18:59Dan Bongino:This Democrat Party right now, again, bears no resemblance to the average American voter. The average American voter does not want open borders. The average American voter doesn't want to mutilate children. They don't want to convince them they were born in the wrong bodies. They don't want them illiterate by third grade. They don't want them unhealthy. The average American voter wants a sound economy. They want crime to not happen in their community. They want the law to be enforced. First, why is it that all of the common sense positions are only held by one political party right now? One. The other doesn't care about any of those things and, in fact, is working against all of them.

1:19:37Dan Bongino:And that's what the Democrats are doing right now. And the only reason they're in a position to do that, they're playing to their radicals in their party, is because they think that chaos is a ticket to power. The more chaos we have in the United States, the more people are going to fall on their knees for big government. And the other element, of course, the biggest element of all is that they're rigging our elections. They're rigging our elections through racist districting, through importing illegals. I've gone through the list before. Everything you just said, Dan, would improve the quality of both political parties like that.

1:20:07Dan Bongino:And the country would be headed in a great direction. Yeah. And I saw a piece in The Wall Street Journal yesterday where they were arguing. was it Jason Reilly or someone was arguing that it's not doing the black community in America at large any benefits either by isolating them into these little pockets, insisting they vote Democrat and, you know, not forcing candidates into like appealing to a more. It's ironic that the Democrats are all about DEI diversity, but they don't want to appeal to a diverse group of voters. They want to just appeal to a pocket of black voters. They want to lay upon their backs the anchor of phony victimization, which most of them awaken up to now as they start to move to the Republican Party.

1:20:50It's not helping black voters either. They get a bunch of pandering garbage candidates and the candidates not actually forced to articulate why what he would do would matter to the broad populace, which is what a representative is supposed to do.

1:21:05Dan Bongino:It's hard to envision a more permanently shameful organization than the Democrat Party in American history. You know what I mean? Like the entire history of that party has been using race as a means to gain political power. The entire history of that party and the entire history of the Republican Party has been an effort to reject that and to recognize that we need a colorblind meritocracy that recognizes the values of each human individual in the United States. So you look at this and you're like, why would anybody associate with the Democrats? In fact, I remember the madness of 2020 when the Democrats were tearing down anything that they claimed that at any point in American history had represented something racially toxic.

1:21:42Dan Bongino:And I kept thinking, why aren't they getting rid of the Democrat Party? Why does the Woodrow Wilson Bridge still exist in Washington, D.C.? Woodrow Wilson, the guy was showing KKK films in the White House. Like this idea that like the Democrats are like the party of inclusion. It's also crazy. So what we just saw from the Supreme Court last week, Dan, is once again, we are removing a racist weapon that the Democrats are using. And as a result, Democrats are losing power. So you're telling me that if you get rid of the racism, Democrats lose power. Yes. Every single time. It's the story of our country.

1:22:18Dan Bongino:Get rid of the racism. Democrats lose power. Yeah. No, you are absolutely accurate. And I think, you know, Donald Trump is really the first Republican president based not on my opinion, but on the pure number of black voters he attracted to his MAGA movement to just fracture that wall and just be brutally honest with people like, hey, listen, this racism is real. It happens. However, it's being used as a cudgel to get from you and steal from you political power where you'd be far more advantageous to you to spread your political power around and make both parties, you know, cater to your needs in a representative democracy.

1:22:52And that's just not what happened. Well, Democrats, you know, the black voters listening, and I want to ask you about the debt too, but I got to just get your thought because you really kind of spurred me on this. The black voters listening, number one, our party, we are here for you. It's an open door. We would absolutely love to have you. We don't look at you like black voters. We look at you like voters. However, the Democrats have got a lot of people thinking in identity politics. The Democrats don't give a shit about you. They just take your vote for granted. They don't care about you at all.

1:23:18I mean, if illegal immigration were to wipe out every black job in a primarily black community in Virginia or Maryland in the Delmarva region you live in, they don't give a shit. They know you're going to vote for them anyway or they assume it. They do nothing to help you at all.

1:23:36Dan Bongino:Democrats have been a part of orchestrating the entire destruction of the black family. I mean, that's that's been their project. I mean, ever since Lyndon B. Johnson, I mean, the whole concept was to divide the black family. And they did. They had they had a lot of success in doing that, which is really unfortunate. It's been totally destructive. Creating more government dependency out of black Americans has been the program of the Democrat Party. And it's just been it's been sickening to absolutely watch. And I've seen a lot of black Americans who've been waking up to this. You just saw Harry Enten, the numbers enthusiast over on CNN, saying it this week.

1:24:09Dan Bongino:He goes, look, I'm telling you guys, ladies and gentlemen, black voters are heading towards President Trump's area. And people should pay attention to this. He's had a lot of movement on this. By the way, voters of all races have been moving towards President Trump. There's a reason that Hispanic voters are now considered a coin toss in the United States. It's because of the coalition that President Trump has built. And, you know, it's just this this constant betrayal of black voters by Democrats. It's it's long past time that everybody wake up to what's going on here. They just are trying to create dependency on the Democrat Party, and they go into black churches.

1:24:43Dan Bongino:They try and scare black voters into compliance by saying that the other side is going to be racist towards you. All the other side wants to do, the Trump side wants to do, is give every American an equal chance at success in this great country. That's it. That's all this – that's the program. That's the big scary side of this, which is everybody has the same chance. That's it. And it's just really sick that the Democrats continue to rely on the lowest form of division in order to accrue power. Well, you know, it worked for them. And you're right. It's just not anymore. I put a poll up earlier in the show from Open Source Zone covering how Hispanic voters, the Democrats are now plus two.

1:25:24They were like plus 40 something just, you know, a couple of decades ago. So that message is dying a rightful, slow, and thankfully a death here because we need it. I want to just get your thoughts on this because it's a topic not enough people are talking about. We are in a – and this has been a bipartisan problem. I'm not, of course, hoisting it at anchor solely on the back of Democrats. The national debt is out of control. Wall Street Journal ran a piece about it the other day. We're going to be paying more in interest than we are for our military soon. And in the piece, they talk about the actual, real, tangible, touchable downsides to this.

1:26:01You know how the old adage goes about bankruptcy? It happens gradually. And then all of a sudden, the journal notes how interest rates could spike, how private capital is basically going to be wiped out. Capital for private investment is going to be sucked up by interest payments on the debt. You have increased risk of a financial crisis. This is the CBO, which is not known as a particularly right-wing outlet over there. But this is accurate. I mean, this is just pure math. We're in real trouble. I also worry about the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Every time there's a transaction in dollars outside of the United States, it's basically like a free loan to the United States because they're using our money.

1:26:39So it enables us to print more without having a massive inflation crisis. That's the bad news. The good news, put up that tweet by that Kobesi letter. The U.S. dollar is still the world's preferred currency because there isn't a second best option. However, that you see here, the world's using more dollars than ever. Dollar deposits are now$14.5 trillion. But Vince, this doesn't have to last forever. You know, and when a bankruptcy crisis hits, it hits fast. It hits hard. And we need a bipartisan effort right now to get this under control. We could be looking at a real catastrophe.

1:27:13Dan Bongino:Yes. Yeah, I totally agree with you. And there's a bunch of obvious reasons. I think it was hard for Americans, I think, for years to internalize what it meant to have this out-of-control spending and how it affected you directly. I know for years, we've all sort of said out loud that we were concerned about the state of the national debt, but to feel the real world experiences of COVID, I think was an unfortunate but useful lesson in how the economy actually works. If the government prints too much money, everything becomes more expensive. We all experienced this aggressive inflation as the government was cutting these ridiculous checks that were sent out to the whole country.

1:27:48Dan Bongino:And there's too many dollars chasing too few goods. Suddenly everything gets a lot more expensive. Now just imagine hyperinflation. Imagine if we were in a situation where everything is just completely out of control. Then you're really feeling it. And chances are it's going to be your children and your grandchildren are going to be destroyed by this. Is that really the future you want to leave them with? $40 trillion in debt is where we're heading right now. We're getting closer to that now. $40 trillion in debt. And the only way we're going to get that under control is if we get our expenditures under control.

1:28:18Dan Bongino:It's always been the most basic, obvious thing. Is there any attempt to do that? Yeah, there's been some. There's been you've had the Doge operation by the president. You've had the rescissions that they've issued scaling back some of the federal spending. That's that's been good. But again, that's just chipping away at this massive, massive problem. The other piece is going after the fraud. I don't think people realize how big the fraud is. The fraud is huge. Like we could start right away in securing a couple trillion dollars every 10 years in massive cost savings just by going after the fraud.

1:28:48Dan Bongino:You're looking at hundreds of billions of dollars of Medicare and Medicaid fraud that are taking place each year that the Trump administration is very serious about tackling. It's why J.D. Vance is there. It's why they just appointed a new assistant attorney general who reports directly to J.D. Vance to prosecute these monsters. And I love them going after this. But we've got to rein this government in, Dan, because this is not going to go on forever. If we lose the American dollar as the global reserve currency, we also lose leverage over every country who uses the dollar. It is a huge national security advantage for us.

1:29:20Yeah, I didn't even mention that. You're 100 % correct. I mean, the whole petrodollar, you know, anchor we've had forever, that collapses. Forget about the others, just energy alone. We're totally screwed. Interest rates go up to 20 % tomorrow. You have to think of like a money machine and like a sponge sucking it up on the other end. The reason the money machine we're printing right now is not causing even greater inflation than it did in the Biden years is you're right. at least the doge efforts paring down the federal workforce by 10 percent it sends a message to the bond market but if you don't have that international sponge and that demand for dollars they have to flood into an economy somewhere and they're going to flood into our economy and that's when you're

1:29:58Dan Bongino:going to see double digit inflation and it just goes back remember when people were saying the media was like what do you mean inflation's higher here it's higher everywhere it's not biden's fault yes it is the global reserve currency is the dollar when biden prints billions of them and sends them out the door, it affects everybody. Correct. Rumble.com slash Vince is where you can find him every day at 8 a.m. Don't worry if you can't make the live stream. However, we love the live. It's a big audience. Like I said, it's like a big call-in show. We appreciate it. You can watch him on demand anytime.

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