I Thought This Never Happened (Ep. 2558)

28:33You may recall way back in, what was it, 1961, they invaded Cuba, and everybody was totally convinced that Castro was the worst guy in the world. All the Cuban people were going to rise up in rebellion against Fidel Castro. They forgot that he educated their kids, gave them health care, totally transformed the society. But just because Ronald Reagan dislikes these people does not mean to say that the people in their own nations feel the same way. How do you find the sincerity of Sandinista leaders? I was impressed. I was impressed by Father Descoto, because he is a very gentle, very loving man.

29:06Ortega is an impressive guy. Ernesto Cardenal is a funny looking guy. He has gray hair. And he really does remind you of a hippie. Ladies and gentlemen, please God, please God, capital G God. I swear to you, my audience, I am not using my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ name in vain. Please, God, wake these people up. Please, God, I'm begging you, pray for their souls, the stupid people who have fallen prey to this stuff. There is nothing democratic about democratic socialism. It is simply the taking of your property, your political freedom, your economic freedom, your education freedom, your healthcare freedom.

29:48This is not complicated. The evidence is present throughout human history. Put up that Wall Street Journal piece about the horrors of Mao Zedong. dung you saw that scumbag hassan piker oh mal say dung he isn't that bad of a guy mal say dung really read we're gonna read this folks get ready put your food down because this is some gross shit you like mal say dung daniel ortega canceling elections i thought he was a democratic socialist scumbag bernie sanders who's a millionaire flying private jets himself scumbag mom donnie oh we're going to arrest anyone else on ICC warrants too. Yeah, here's who Mao Zedong is.

30:25Read this. Read all of it. 45 million dead, Freeman notes in the Wall Street Journal, under Mao Zedong and the commies, according to Frank Dicketer, who described the results of his research into previously classified archives of local and national offices of the CCP. By the way, he wrote this in the New York Times. Freeman's quoting it. Between two and three million of Mao's victims in China were tortured to death or summarily executed for the slightest infraction. People accused of not working hard enough were hung and beaten. Sometimes they were bound and thrown into ponds. Punishment for the least violations, including mutilation and forcing people to eat excrement.

31:13Hassan Piker, dickhead

31:18scumbag you want to answer for that you piece of shit Momdani Bernie

31:29Justice Wright you said a little excess is this an excess too one report dated November 30th 1960 and circulated atop leadership most likely including Mao tells how a man named Wing Zhao had one of his ears chopped off, his legs tied up with iron wire, and a 10-kilogram stone dropped on his back before he was branded with a sizzling tool. His crime? Digging up a potato. Oh, it gets worse. When a boy stole a handful of grain in a Hunan village, the local boss forced his father to bury his son alive on the spot. This freaking democratic socialism sounds awesome if you're a dickhead. Folks, that was in the New York Times.

32:23The big right-wing reg, right? New York Times. Hassan Piker, scumbag. Kyle Kapinski. Dye in his hair. You're going to listen to these dipshits? By the way, what's Piker worth, by the way? Piece of shit. You hate capitalists and freedom? You want to drop 10 kilogram stones on people's back and have them bury their kids alive? Just a little bit of excess. Scumbag. What are you worth? Maybe we should make you dig up a fucking potato. Piece of shit. I'm so sick of these scumbags, folks. Every single one of them. Freaking redlined out with these assholes. and I'm tired of the stupid smart people who support them.

33:14Did you see this Nate Silver tweet that went nuclear yesterday? He's an election analyst. Some people like him. Some people don't. Some people like me. Some people, it doesn't matter. This tweet went crazy yesterday. He did a little analysis of stupid smart people. Do you know the Dan Bongino stupid smart people rule? The most dangerous people on planet Earth are not stupid, stupid people. They generally know their limits. They can provide a lot of value. They know where to... Smart, smart people are really good because they're smart, but they know they're... It's the neurosurgeon who doesn't try to change the oil into a car because he knows he doesn't know it, but he's smart.

33:51Stupid, smart people think there's no bounds to their knowledge because they've got a PhD in basket weaving. Nate Silver, in today's newsletter, I argue that the sweet spot, basically for the democratic socialists, are very college educated, 80 % plus it would be, but not particularly well off. Household incomes are relatively low. Their class status is ambiguous, but they tend to be very liberal on culture as well as economics. Who is this? This is the women's studies PhD who because they add no value and are generally morons, Peter St. Ange has a great tweet up about this, how the lowest SAT scores for BAs are in government and the education space.

34:34I'm just telling you the facts, okay? I'm just giving you the facts. these are the stupid smart people i've got a phd in 14th century urban studies for you got a what is that even a thing what the f are you talking about but nobody will hire me so what happens i'll talk to michael alfonso about this in a little bit too people become bitter this 28 year old karen with a phd and you know 14th century urban studies for you know uh uh women and they don't know what to do with that because there's nothing to do with it. So they get bitter. And as I brought up with the guest yesterday, they feel like they should be part of a European benighted costumed aristocracy where because they went to school, they're entitled to a seven figure income.

35:24Now, the irony is when you look at the same data for the MAGA movement and conservatives, it's populated by a lot of working class individuals who may or may not have a college degree, but make a decent amount of money relative to their education. The HVAC guy who starts his own business making$150K a year. Why is he a Republican or a conservative or a MAGA guy? Because he busted his own ass and he didn't feel the need to spend 400 years in school for 14th century urban studies. Stupid, smart people are the most dangerous people in the world. Read the First Circle by Solzhenitsyn The Gulag Archipelago Capitalism and Freedom Read the Theory of Creative Destruction by Shumpeter The most dangerous people in the world are stupid smart people And they appeal to over-educated, under-earners Who provide no value to society But they also appeal to people who generally choose stupid Justin's correct I'm not sure Jasmine Crockett chose stupid It may have chosen her But a lot of these people They don't want to know Because you tell them Hey guys, just look this up Socialism, Mao Zedong, 45 million dead They don't want to know And when you expose their heroes Hey, I'm a fox Mamdami admits New York City can't arrest You could have looked this up, bro You chose to be stupid and fall for this golden calf.

37:03It's on Fox right now. Told you it's a live show. You're falling for this Bernie Sanders bullshit too. The guy is a millionaire railing against millionaires. Folks, I'm a capitalist. I love making some money. I love giving away money too. I love business. I love it all. I love the risk of it. I love the challenge of it. Bernie Sanders is saying, no, no, no. Government should take over all of that. Just not my money. Bernie Sanders also. You have to pay attention to the entry points. Again, I'm not telling you. I want to be very clear about what I'm saying. Because I don't want any confusion about entry points into your brain to get you into the unholy alliance.

37:52Epstein is a very serious issue. Israel is a serious issue We should openly analyze our relationship with every foreign country Israel included to see what works for America Notice, no logical, reasonable person saying otherwise You know, our climate is a very serious issue You know, I hate the idea that there's tons and tons of plastic in the ocean I mean, these are things we live here They don't care about any of that My point isn't that it's serious, or not serious. It's serious. Point stipulated. That's over. All of those things are serious. My point is that they don't care about any of what I just said.

38:35They don't care about Epstein, Israel, climate change, none of it. Because they don't act that way. They care about using it as an entry point to get into your brain, to join them in the unholy alliance to destroy America. Hat tip, Western Lensman, for this video. Here's Bernie Sanders in a campaign speech railing about climate change, And then just seconds later, you'll see Bernie Sanders on Fox News talking about, yeah, I take private jets. You think I'm going to wait with the smelly people? I thought you cared about climate change and carbon emissions. Clearly not enough to impact your own behavior, you phony scumbag.

39:06Check this out. Change is not a hoax, but an existential threat to our planet. Transform our energy system away from fossil fuel. You run a campaign and you do three or four or five rallies in a week. the only way you can get around to talk to 30 ,000 people. Think I'm going to be sitting on a waiting line at United while 30 ,000 people are waiting? That's the only way you can get around. No apologies for that. That's what campaign travel is about. We've done it in the past. We're going to do it in the future. Folks, he doesn't even apologize. He just said no apologies. If this scumbag had any human dignity, like Mamdami, he would just say I lied to you about Netanyahu and I lied to you about climate change.

39:50he would just say it like he doesn't have any human dignity do you think there are businessmen out there flying around the country working you know multi-million dollar deals for cancer drugs and building materials that can make housing cheaper that their lives aren't important they would love to be out there on private jets you think they're not important too They would love it What about firemen going out to do like some smoke jumping job for a wildfire Maybe give them the private jet But you don't because you're full of shit He doesn't even apologize He gave you this bro The New York double barrel He doesn't care about you You're being suckered All they're doing is finding your soft spot In your armor and they poke right in.

40:46Whatever they think will appeal to you. They don't care about any of this stuff.

40:53And that's why you get things like what happened yesterday. You get this massive rally on the left to try to appeal to stupid people against the SAVE Act. You're seeing it now. Here's the pitch, the entry point to the stupid people. It's racist and Republicans hate women. How? Black people are too dumb to get a driver's license and women are too dumb after they get married to figure out how to change your name. That really took Paula just a few minutes. She's pretty smart. Pretty smart. If Jasmine was here, I'd ask, I think I'd heard it. It's really not hard. That's their pitch to you. And stupid people fall for it.

41:39Stupid people fall for it. Senator Mike Lee from Utah has been doing just incredible work on trying to drag this Save America Act across the finish line. We need this, folks. And I'm tired of the Rhino class, too, playing this down. I mean, I really appreciate a lot of these older, right-leaning papers, like the Journal, but I don't think they understand the gravity of this situation. Faith in the system is falling apart. It's a big deal, and it's not fake. It's not a conspiracy. see it's not made up of anything my time in government hardened me on this here's mike lee talking about the save x and the only reason you'd oppose this is because you want to cheat it's not hard i agree with him 100 check this out you think that there's only one legitimate reason to oppose this i have yet to hear a legitimate argument against the bill um which begs the question do they really just want to make it easy to vote so badly that they're willing or even enthusiastic to just make it easier to cheat.

42:43Folks, we had a, again, I'm not overselling it. If you think I'm overselling it, put it Y in the chat. Yes, you're overselling, using the word bombshell. Of course, I'm talking about the New Jersey. But if you missed the New Jersey bombshell that came out yesterday, man, you missed a doozy. Democrat communist governor gets up and gives a speech about how over 6 ,000 people. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. What? There's a McGrain that said yesterday. Did you get that thing backwards? McGrain, you may have to ban this. I'm kidding. Your opinion is valid. 6 ,600 people were registered to vote who were totally prohibited from voting, illegals and others.

43:34I thought this wasn't an issue. I thought it wasn't a problem. let's go to Scott Jennings I know this is two parts Justin I'm a little bit out of order Scott Jennings was on CNN last night again I'm not sure stupid is a choice for Abby Phillips she is the left wing host of the CNN show thank God Scott Jennings is there to impart upon her a minimal amount of knowledge her small brain can process but here's Abby Phillips last night about this report I love how the argument changes do you notice the goal posts moving voter fraud is non-existent. Okay, it's existent, but it doesn't change any elections.

44:14Okay, it's existent and it may change elections, but not that many. They just keep changing the goalposts every single time because they appeal to stupid people. Here's this exchange last night. I want you to listen to this, how these people have to just beg, borrow, and steal to make you believe that it's a burden on you to show a piece of ID to vote. Check this out. What's your tolerance for this? Hold on. This is not about tolerance. This is about widespread, or is it something that is relatively rare, Scott? You're pounding him over the word widespread. I just would ask you, what is your tolerance for any fraud at all?

44:51Is it widespread? Absolutely. Over 6 ,000 people. What is your bar for widespread? And she said, my bar is I want no tolerance. I have zero tolerance. So what is your tolerance for American citizens? By the way, this isn't the only place this is happening. What is your tolerance for American citizens whose valid voter registrations are invalidated by incorrect databases? What's your tolerance for that? I don't have tolerance for any mistakes in the electoral system, including putting non-citizens on the rolls. So then why are we not keeping the same energy for that as we are for this? I do have energy.

45:23As you know, I've come out here and long argued that every time we don't clean up the voter rolls, that every time a non-citizen makes it onto the voter rolls, it invalidates some legal person's vote. What about when an American is not allowed to vote when they are eligible to vote? I don't have any tolerance for that either. An American citizen should be allowed to vote. But American citizens are invalidated when illegal aliens are glitched onto the system. Using a system that a federal judge recently found was actively removing U.S. citizens from the voter rolls based on inaccurate information.

45:54Why are you comfortable with that system being used to check the voter rolls? This is a convenient deflection for you. This is the worst possible story that could happen for Democrats right now regarding the debate over the sayback. Folks, I have so much to say about this. And I just I want to just. If you do the prolonged sigh, it calms you down a little bit.

46:20Abby Phillips, I genuinely don't think like stupid is a try. I think she's just incompetent and has a very low IQ. she makes an argument that defeats her own argument and doesn't even know it she says once she uses the tactic of deflection which Jennings points out she addresses nothing about the 6600 people ineligible to vote who made it on the voter rolls admitted by communist governor of New Jersey Mikey Sherrill she completely avoids that altogether and goes well what whenever you hear well what about you need to do what jennings does which is say no no no we're not doing the deflection we're addressing this i'll address what you say yes but we need to stick to the point she can't she then goes well what about people who were inadvertently kicked off voter rolls due to some administrative mistake yeah and jennings like good we should we should fix that if that happened no matter what if it was one person or six thousand people fine we should fix that and I'm sure that problem is going to be remedied and we are all for open access, just secure access to the ballots.

47:31So just to be clear, I'm suggesting you we should fix what you brought up even though it was a deflection. But I bring up 6 ,600 illegals registered to vote and you're not interested in a fix like the SAVE Act? Oh, Abby B...

47:50Abby Phelps is not smart. She makes an argument that defeats her own argument. Folks, these people just want to cheat. That is it. Mike Lee is 100 % correct. Now, I want to show you something. In case you may be some moderate Democrat who, I don't know, you see the stupid ramp coming off the highway and you're thinking about, don't take it. You're thinking about it. You're like, exit 62, here we come, whatever. Don't do it. Let me show you something interesting. Put up that Grok thing. This is a screenshot of my phone. You can look it up yourself. Use the same words, whatever. I put this in Grok earlier.

48:336 ,600 people could have voted that were ineligible and were illegal to vote. Again, I thought that didn't happen. Abbey Phil, no big deal, whatever. How many New Jersey state elections, including the following races, were decided by 100 votes or less? state races, county offices, municipal offices, school board elections, local ballot questions. That's the exact question I put in Grock. I want you to read the answer because I thought this didn't impact, oh, no big deal, 6 ,600 people. The short answer is no one knows the exact number because they don't maintain a statewide database that indexes contests by winning margin.

49:07That said, based on the volume of elections held in New Jersey, a reasonable estimate, reasonable, state legislative races, About 5 to 15 races were decided by 100 votes or fewer over the past 10 years. County offices, roughly 10 to 30. Municipal offices, 200 to 500 races. School board elections, 150 to 400 races. Local ballot questions, 50 to 100 measures. That's just in 10 years.

49:436 ,600 ineligible voters on the rolls.

49:50Now does a lot of this stuff that's happening in Georgia and Arizona and elsewhere starting to make sense? Again, tell me, fat comedian guy, tell us how nothing's happening because you know. Tell me again. Now do you understand why President Trump decided You know last Thursday night to give the speech about this I thought nothing was happening I thought that's the Democrat talking No voter fraud Well it's voter fraud but it's no big deal Alright but it's a big deal but it's just a few races Alright it's actually a lot of races But people are prevented from voting because they're black and can't get a license What?

50:31And you fell for this?

50:36if you're missing the live stream one you're missing out on comment of the day but two you're missing Justin's like live action just foray into adventurism on his own show he's taking over he's like the Justin show right now so Scott Jennings had asked the great Maze Moore on X one of my favorites if not my favorite follow at Maze M-A-Z-E-M-O-O-R-E on X scott jennings knows about maize more too scott said hey maize can you do a little supercut you got that tweet of basically people saying that this was no big deal voter fraud doesn't exist and no illegals on the ballot here's scott he's a quote tweeting jake sherman about the mikey shirrell announcement need a maize more supercut of every dem on cable claiming this never happens is voter fraud stuff, right?

51:23Mays Moore, of course, complied. Wonderful account. Here is the supercut of the emotionally and intellectually challenged Abby Phillips who couldn't even answer the question and tried to deflect and defeated her own argument, arguing with herself about this exact thing. Here's the supercut. Check this out. She's been in office for a full year now. They have not come up with any of this purported evidence of voter fraud. You guys are in search of something that there's been no evidence exists. New Jersey is double checking its voter rolls tonight after a software error added 6 ,600 non-citizens to the voter rolls.

52:01The suggestion that this is fraud suggests that these people were trying to vote. Sometimes what happens is that when state systems are incorrect, people receive information and they are confused. Where some people who are ineligible to vote are not aware that they're ineligible to vote. I do think it's, whether it is widespread or not, it matters. I do think that the numbers actually matter.

52:28Folks, do you see what happens? Can we just like circle back to the beginning of the show? The unholy alliance, the commies and the Islamo-Nazis take advantage of two groups of people. The two take advantage of two. The two groups of people they take advantage of Are stupid people who have made the choice to be stupid Or have had it imposed upon them like Jasmine Crott Because they know they'll fall for anything They know They know they'll fall for anything They also take advantage of charismatic messengers Who are liars and manipulators Scumbag Mom Donnie Total scumbag He may try to arrest me up in New York City too That's how crazy these people are you don't have to be stupid though it's a choice i just told you even if you're a low iq idiot like jasmine crockett you can just go to grok or gemini or chat gpt or claude or whatever and ask the question yourself it's not hard there's a surrogate brain ready to do the thinking for you.

53:31You just choose not to use it.

53:37One of the things that drives me crazy is we've got the unholy alliance, the commies and the Islamo fanatics trying to destroy the United States, destroy it. They are a national security threat to the United States. Their protection racket is the left-wing media and their propaganda racket is the education system. There's actually four legs to this stool. Folks, what's driven me nuts since I've been back on the air is watching from the other side, the left wing media. The right wing media is pretty good. Sometimes we get stuff wrong too, but the left wing media, I would see something in the morning that we were privy to.

54:18And then I would read about the New York Times, Washington Post version of what we saw. And folks, it was night and day. It was not the same thing. This drives me bananas when I see stuff like this, because what am I going to do? I can't just give up classified information to show you reporter Joey Bagadonis of the New York Times an idiot. But I'm telling you, 90 % of what you read is either fabricated bullshit or some propaganda the version of the truth. President Trump was in the Oval yesterday. He was talking with the reporters out there. And it's almost comical listening to this reporter cite some supposed information she has about Iran.

55:01And President Trump's like, well, how do you know that? Like, I've gotten briefings. Do you know something? I don't know. And she has no answer at all. I said, well, I'm sorry, are you going to tell us? This drives me crazy. I'm not telling you don't ask questions. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm just saying most of what you read, unsurprisingly is total complete horseshit and it's just made up they have no idea check this out well they continue to attack our allies you don't know what the dialogue is behind the scenes that they want to meet desperately to try and end it because they're getting decimated you don't get that when you listen to your fake station but uh you don't know you don't know anything so you know something that i don't know you know something i don't know well tell us uh I will tell you, they want to desperately meet.

55:45And until they're ready to meet in a meaningful way, we have no interest in you. I don't want to belabor this point. I'm just telling you, this drives me freaking bananas. However little faith you have in the media, you should have less. I saw it over and over again. One of these days when this stuff is declassified, I'll be able to show you a side by side. Here's what you read in the New York Times. here's what's now declassified and I'll be able to show you how it's either completely made up or they take one sentence totally out of context for the entire report and they blow up a story and say, Trump's a loser.

56:22It is so bad. The experience, if anything, was just worth that alone to watch media people beclown themselves. Folks, I'm really happy we were finally able to, you know, we have rules for the contest. If you want to see the rules through our comment of the day contest. Go to Bongino.com slash 1776. The rules are simple. Just join the live stream every day. If your comments picked, it goes into a weekly drawing. We pick a winner once a week. You get $1 ,776. That's all you got to do. So we had to go through the process and we finally found it. We got a winner just in week one. Oh, look at this.

57:00There's fireworks and everything. Look, there's a whole... Did you do that? Those are real fireworks in the studio right now. You see that? The winner is rbarish69. The comment was, Dan using an X-Files reference like his crew uses Star Wars references. That's why I love this podcast cast. Thank you. Congratulations. I hope you spend it well. $1 ,776. We'll get to week two when we go through the whole process. And we have a comment of the day today as well. This guy's like moving over there. Justin, what's our comment of the day for today? 1776 Club you see it right there it is Borg Tank it's not happening but it's good that it is right yes we haven't said that in so long that was a Michael Anton thing you gotta be this Borg Tank you're a hardcore P1 there and I think the Borg thing comes from there oh Lucy's here folks Lucy has arrived Lucy Lucy it's not happening The Democrats say this all the time About voter fraud It's not happening But it's good that it This is their thing Voter fraud's not happening By the way, I'll be on Will Cain later Laura Ingram's show tomorrow I should probably announce that stuff If you want to check that out Folks, you know I'm not a big gambler But I've been having a lot of fun Looking at marketplace predictions For everything from politics to sports And Calci's where I get the best insight on predictions From sports to politics to finance Or any variety of markets people are monitoring Kalshi.com is a bookmark you need.

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59:28see. I'm really excited to welcome to the show a guy you know really well from the Dan Bongino show now running for Congress. Listen, throwing your name on a ballot, Michael, it's a lot of guts, man. The old Teddy Roosevelt man in the arena speech, Michael Alfonso running for Congress in Wisconsin 7. Michael, welcome to the show. Good to see you again. Thank you so much for having me. You know, Dan, I always credit you with my start in the political world. Everyone always asks me, what experience do you have? Well, I produced one of the biggest podcasts in the country. So. Well, we miss you. And listen, I'm really proud of you.

1:00:04I know what it's like to run for Congress. I hope your result was different. I'm always proud of the fact, though, that I threw my name on a ballot. But one of the things I noticed right away, I was like, man, you really leaned out. And I said, let me guess, because I'd been there before. Or I said the campaign trail. If you're really campaigning, I mean, you're not, but other candidates you know, maybe some in your race, they're lazy. They said they do a couple of TikTok ads and they're done. If you're really campaigning, gripping and grinning, going to the parades, to barbecues, knocking on doors, you're out all day, all day.

1:00:37You're dehydrated. There's no bathrooms around. You're just like in a real pinch. I'm not surprised. You said I lost like 10, 20 pounds. I'm like, man, you look really lean. So tell everybody what it's like to get out there and really do the groundwork and the gripping and grinning you need to do to win. Yeah. So when I was working for you, I was 200 pounds. I'm now 160. When you're out on the campaign trail, you do not have time for anything. You are either driving to something, you're talking to someone on the phone, you're knocking a door. And, you know, this district, the Wisconsin 7th, is actually the biggest district east of the Mississippi.

1:01:13And I always like to put this in perspective. I've driven 50 ,000 miles in nine months. So that's circumnavigating the globe twice. So, Michael, yeah, I've been there. I know what it's like. I ran in Maryland Congressional District 6, which goes from the mountains all the way down to the urban areas of Montgomery County. And, you know, if you do it the right way, which I know you're doing now, knocking on a bunch of doors, you really do learn a lot about people. It's inevitable. It's almost by osmosis. Even if you had zero interest, even if you were a terrible candidate and you didn't care, you can't talk to thousands of people and not learn a lot about them and yourself.

1:01:51When you're hitting those doors and you're chatting with people, I would imagine cost of living comes up. I would imagine, you know, health care comes up, you know, crime. But what do you hear specifically in Wisconsin, most of all, from the folks who are gripping your hand, you know, shaking your hand and saying, hey, I need your help with this? The number one thing is what is Congress doing? They haven't done anything. What are they doing? Where's the SAVE Act? Where are I mean, it's ridiculous. Every door I knock on, they're saying President Trump is amazing. We love him. But Congress is not backing him up.

1:02:28And when I listen to the media, all I hear is apparently Donald Trump has falling approval numbers and all of this. I don't know where that is, because every single person I talk to, it's Congress with the falling approval. They love President Trump. We're talking to Michael Alfonso running in Wisconsin, District 7. The website is alfonsoforwisconsin.com, alfonsoforwisconsin.com. You know, Michael, from the show. Michael, speaking of the SAVE Act, huge issue. You know, again, you worked here on the show. You would see a lot of the emails. There were a lot of things we'd mentioned. You remember that you can tell right away, correct, when they hit.

1:03:07You just see a bunch of emails, DMs. You're on Twitter. You're like, damn, whatever you said yesterday about whatever, the death penalty, boom, it exploded. I have never, ever seen public support amongst moderate Democrats, moderate Republicans, libertarians, MAGA people, old school conservatives, new school conservatives. The far left wants to cheat, so get them out of it. But I have never seen grassroots support like I have for the SAVE Act. Now, obviously, I know what you support. I get that. But the reason I bring it up is I was talking to a very prominent official up on Capitol Hill. He's definitely not a swampy.

1:03:41And he said, Dan, you'll never believe it. He was a lot of the guys up here, even on the Senate side who've been around forever. They don't see it. They think this is just like an Internet issue, like a fringe issue. I said, are you like, do you ever get out and talk to people? Please disabuse politicians of that notion that this is some fringe issue to say back. Yeah, I mean, we've been hearing there's almost 20 million illegals in this country. Now we're finding out that just from four states, Democrat states that turned over their voter rolls, about 250 ,000 illegals were registered to vote.

1:04:16Now, they were very clear, the person that told me this, that we can't be sure that they're voting. They're voting. We know that they're voting. Who registers to vote if you're not going to vote? 250 ,000 people in four states. Wisconsin went for Trump by 20 ,000 votes. When he lost in 2020, he lost by 20 ,000 votes. This number is really concerning. This is changing elections. And the Democrats' main argument is they're not voting. This won't make a difference. Okay, great. Let's pass the SAVE Act. Nothing will change. It'll be great. Michael, I noticed behind you, over your left shoulder, you have a picture of Washington, you know, crossing the Delaware, an iconic photo.

1:05:04I had a great guest yesterday on America, on America 250 and the greatness of America. But, you know, you, you're in-laws. Rachel's got an amazing story. We all know Rachel from Fox and Friends, of course. But, you know, Rachel was a conservative before it was cool and hip to be a conservative on MTV. You have to be my age that you were way before your time, but I promise it's not before mine, You know, and to have a female Hispanic conservative at the time was like a one in a million shot. But with America 250 coming up now, you being a younger candidate, which I have no issue with. And I, you know, if you can articulate the issues, but you can good for you.

1:05:42But this socialism appeal, which is the antithesis of America, it's the antithesis of freedom and liberty, of free markets, of of patient directed health care, of school choice. The government controls all that in socialism. that's got to concern you right now amongst your generation that, hey, this thing is really moving and we can't ignore it, this cancer of socialism. Yeah. And, you know, my grandparents actually came to this country from Cuba. So I know a lot about socialism. Let's call it what it really is. It's communism because that's what it becomes. And wherever these ideas start to pop up their heads, you see violence.

1:06:19I mean, what happened to Charlie Kirk is a direct correlation to what's happening now. The left paints us as Nazis, paints us as racist, and then they shoot us. These ideals, they're not these peace-loving, oh, let's help somebody. No, they turn violent, and they already have. And I think this is why it's so important to have younger representation. I know in Florida, you guys got to have Maxwell Frost, another young lefty, total communist. and the right hasn't picked their next champions yet. And the problem is young people have always struggled starting out. I don't blame the older generation for looking at us and saying, you guys need a little, you need to work a little bit harder.

1:07:04But the thing is, these young people used to figure it out by age 30, age 40, they get their first job and it starts working out. They're not. We need to win younger people because in 20 years, you're going to be stuck with us. Michael, I'd love to get your thoughts on this. Talking to Michael Alfonso, candidate for Congress, Wisconsin 7. And I don't sense this from you at all, any kind of animosity. But we have to be careful with the messaging here. Messaging matters. It does. This is a generation reared on TikTok and Snapchat, short-form messaging. And if we don't adjust to that, we're going to get smoked.

1:07:43Being angry at them is not going to fix any of this. We have to understand like why there's a great piece in the Wall Street Journal yesterday in the op-ed column. And it's a future view where they ask a bunch of students about socialism. And a couple of these these young men and women say the same thing. Like, it's not that socialism is necessarily appealing. It's that they feel like they got screwed over. And I think it's up to us and coming upon us and guys like you running for office to say, you know what? You did. But it's not that you got screwed over. It's who did it that we need to fix.

1:08:16It's the government. You got screwed over with a shitty education. Pardon my French there. Because the public school system is garbage. That's the government run school system. Your health care is expensive. Why? I thought Obamacare was going to fix it. The Democrats just shut down the government because Obamacare is too expensive and they needed more money. You know, they argue about like the bank bailouts, bank bailouts. Like that's a big government thing. Yeah, some establishment Republicans too, but that is not a conservative principle. like that was them the financial crisis the community reinvestment act this was all big government so i always say to them hey younger voters i'm not mad at you i'm totally with you you got screwed the government screwed you and we're going to fix it not the socialists that are going to introduce more of the broken leg and young people just care about having a job where they can support a family and being able to buy a home that's their only two issues that they care about.

1:09:08And the thing is, the left has a plan for them. How would you like free healthcare? How would you like a free house? Now, we know that that doesn't work, but we need the right to start talking about this. President Trump won young people because he talked just about this. He said, hey, you guys can't get good jobs because we have horrible trade deals with Mexico and Canada and China, you name it. We need to talk to the young people. They're not crazy. They're just uninformed. And I really, really think it's important to look at these young people and say, they are Americans. They are going to be the next generation.

1:09:47And it's our job as Republicans to actually deliver results for them. We have no one to blame for this rise of communism besides the rhino Republicans who do nothing when they're actually in power. Can you blame the young people who look at the right and say, eh, they didn't fix it either, so time to give the Democrats a shot? Yeah. And I really encourage everyone to read that piece, Future View, where you hear these young men and women talk about it. I mean, if you've been indoctrinated and you know, like, you know, you've been in colleges and the education system, you've seen it. You're told from eighth grade, kindergarten through 12, and then in college, if you decided to go, that, you know, socialism is the answer.

1:10:27It's about sharing and caring and Barney the fat dinosaur. Like, that's not what it's about. I'm sure your parents from Cuba can explain to you what it's about. It's about torture, death, destruction, government confiscation, stealing private property, stealing your wealth, shutting down your farms. I showed a clip earlier in the show. I showed a piece from The Wall Street Journal yesterday as well, documenting the horrors of Mao Zedong. You know, people being forced to bury their children alive for like eating a potato that was unauthorized. This happened, the torture and deprivation and the starvation of this.

1:10:59So I'm glad you're calling that out. I think young people need to hear it. But I want to ask you about this as well. So you got President Trump's endorsement. I mean, listen, when I ran for office, I've said this on my show repeatedly, endorsements really didn't mean much. I mean, back in the day, an early Sarah Palin endorsement, they moved the needle a little bit and got you on it. But really, nobody cared. Nobody votes for it. They just don't. Except Trump. President Trump's endorsement record is insane. I don't even know what it is, 99 to 1. But that's just, you know, even if you eliminate races that were a fait accompli, it's still ridiculous.

1:11:34It's like 50 or 70 to zero at that point or whatever. What was that like? How'd you find out? And that must have moved the needle for you. Yeah. So, you know, I had a bunch of interviews with, you know, his lower level staff. And then finally, I did actually get to sit down with him in the Oval Office. And I've never been to the Oval Office. I'm a kid from northern Wisconsin. Johnson, I've been out of the country one time going into the Oval Office, talking to the president of the United States, but not just any president, President Donald Trump. I've never been more nervous in my entire life.

1:12:09He grilled me for an hour straight. I didn't know how it went. And then I was on the flight home and didn't hear anything, didn't know anything. He didn't call me. He didn't say anything. And he just put it out on Truth Social. He's one of those guys that just shoots from the hips and anyone that knows him knows he doesn't give people warning he does what he does and you got to roll with the punches that's what I love about him I mean I listen brother we share this in common the same thing happened with the FBI job I mean I somewhat we had just had some general conversation not even with him I had had him you know with cash and it just come up and I really just kind of sat there and I don't know what it was a month later I'm sitting there on a Sunday night, you know, I'm falling asleep.

1:12:55It's like past my bedtime at like 720 at night. I'm getting old and I see my phone where he says Trump. I'm like, what the hell is this about? And he he is, you know, what is that joke? Decider. He's a decider when he wants to do it. He just does it. And he takes his inputs. He forms an output and he's just ready to rock and roll. So listen, I'm sure that's going to move the needle huge. Yeah. You know, I've seen a lot of this now, the more politicians you see, they have a laundry list of consultants and everybody else who, well, maybe you should say it this way. Maybe just the advice world. And President Trump doesn't listen to any of that.

1:13:33He just does what he thinks is best. And it's so refreshing to see a decision not take six weeks. It just happens. He makes the decision and now it's, how do we implement it? Yeah. Yeah. Listen, man, if he's got something in his head and he feels He's a very transactional guy. And some people, when I say that, they say, well, what do you mean transactional? I mean, he looks at politics as a spreadsheet. If he sees the net present value of a decision long term is going to be positive, but may take some sacrifices over time, he's going to do it. He's not really interested in consultants like, well, your polls may move tomorrow, but well, is it better for the United States in the long run?

1:14:14And he does it. He'll take a chance. He's the biggest risk taker I've ever seen in politics. And I really admire that. Speaking of politics, one of the things you may be asked to vote on if you win the Congressional, we're talking to Michael Alfonso running in Wisconsin, Congressional District 7, is a ban on stock trading for insiders. Now, you know, I'm torn on this. I like to give people both sides. I don't just about the talking points on it. I'm for that almost, but I'm hesitant. And here's why. Let me just spit it out. You have a lot of people in Congress who are, you know, like yourself.

1:14:52They're not millionaires and billionaires. They're working class guys. They, you know, they don't have some pot of, you know, a million dollars sitting there. And if they're invested in a couple of stocks here and there, and you've got, as long as you're doing it ethically and there's no conflict of interest, you know, okay, great. The problem is you always get people who are going to take advantage of that. And I think that's the greater concern. How do you feel about trading as stocks by people in Congress, given all the ethical constraints? I'm not suggesting they have to sell them all. I mean, but there should be at least some completely detached blind trust while you're in there.

1:15:28Yeah, I'm completely against any new purchasing of stocks. That's it. Pause. No more. You are a public servant. Your job is not to enrich yourself. It's to serve the public. And something I've said a lot, you know, I don't know if this will actually get passed. A lot of people want to vote against it. I will never trade a stock in my personal capacity, nor will my wife, which is a reference to Nancy Pelosi, who she doesn't trade the stocks. Her husband does. But I actually think it's a great way to implement term limits, so to speak. You know, people are going to be in office long enough and they're going to say, ah, I'm going to get out of here because, you know, I want to start doing something great.

1:16:07We don't want you there for 50 years. Congress was always supposed to be get in, get out. And I actually think it's a good way to get term limits almost sort of attached to it by default. Yeah, term limits is another issue I brought up before, and there's a lot of ups and downs that my concern, and you may experience this as a new congressman, is that it's like, you know, going to college for the first time. You're like, well, I've been to school K through 12, but you've never been to that school. You got to learn where, you know, the buildings are, like where, who I have to go to for academic support, where these after hours things are, where I may need some extra tutoring or whatever.

1:16:47It takes a little bit in Congress, learning the mechanics of how the operation works. I've only heard this from others. I don't pretend to know what, but they've said it's complicated. It may take a term or two. So that's the only thing that makes me a little hesitant. I am, I have changed my mind significantly on term limits based on what's going on now. I mean, we have AI, we can figure it out pretty quickly, but I just, I worry that congressional staffers become empowered then because they understand the mechanics better than a constantly evolving group of congressmen. You're just general thoughts on that.

1:17:19You're totally right. And I think you actually need term limits for the bureaucrats as well, making sure that there's not this secret side of things that's just there all the time. But the way I look at it is I say, if the president of the United States, the most important role in our entire government has term limits, I think Congress can have it to 435 members. Most of them don't know what to do even 10 years afterwards. So we're not really losing much. And Michael, another thing about term limits that always gets me is if it was a federal law, you know, it would likely apply to, you know, federal unless the state and if individual states comply.

1:18:01And like I mentioned blind trust, but there are rules about that too that still exist, but, you know, tighten it up and everything like that. However, you can still, even if you say you really love politics, You may be a really great public servant. You may be, you know, I love what Donald Trump's done. You know, I don't agree with every decision, but most of them, more than I have with any other president we've had in a while. You know, what if he wants to go back and, you know, someone wants to go back and serve as a state legislator after being a U.S. Senator or a congressman in Wisconsin? Nobody's stopping you.

1:18:30Like the people of Wisconsin, it would probably, you know, they were probably restricted to federal if it was a federal law, unless, you know, states did it on their own too. There's nothing stopping you. So I see really no downside to this. Don't give me the whole like, well, what if they're a good public servant? Good. Go back and be a state senator. Go run for governor. No one's stopping you from doing that. Yeah. And, you know, our government was written to have the states be far more powerful than the federal government. So one of the things I want to do if I get into office is make most of the decisions the federal government does, give it back to the states.

1:19:04And then you can go serve at the state level. I mean, the state senators, the state assemblymen, they're your neighbors. I'm running in a district where there's 750 ,000 people. I've met, I think, almost every single person in the district. But really, I probably haven't even made a dent. The further away your government gets from you, the more tyrannical it gets. You know, you look at county board members, even the Democrats aren't that bad. But then you look at the Maxine Waters, the Nancy Pelosi's. They don't feel any duty to serve you. They don't care about you at all. That's and I encourage everyone to look this up.

1:19:42That's the principle of subsidiarity. the best government you're going to have is the most responsive and the way to make it the most responsive is to reduce it to the closest most granular level possible i mean think about it if you had a it's obviously a hyperbolic example but if you had a state representative or a city council member whatever it may be and he only had 20 constituents in his district and only 12 of them vote michael you're damn well paying attention to every one of their concerns because one vote flipped the whole election. You're right. You get a congressional district, which is by federal standards, still small, 750 ,000.

1:20:17But let's be honest. I mean, if you're an out of touch guy, really doesn't give a damn, like someone calls you and goes, hey, I got a problem with this zoning thing. You're probably like, yeah, whatever. Call Joey Begadonis. I don't got time for this today. You're going to find time if government's smaller and closer. Michael, while we're close, sorry, go ahead. You got to comment on that. I was just going to say I was talking to a sheriff just the other day, and I won't mention which one it was, but he's a little bit of a lefty. Do you think he's not going to come to your door if you call 911?

1:20:44You better believe he'll be the first one. Yeah, you're damn right. Accountable government is the closest and the smallest, most granular level possible. Michael, when's the primary? How can people find you, support you? Well, first, how are you feeling about the race and then give us the mechanics of it? You know, the race is going well, you know, with President Trump's endorsement, that helps a lot. But I am always 10 points down in my own head because you never want to get cocky. You can't let anything be taken for granted. But you can find all about the campaign and issues page at AlfonsoForWisconsin.com.

1:21:25The primary is August 11th. And actually, early voting starts next week. Yeah, early voting. I mean, I wish we had, you know, voting was tightened up across the country, but early voting is a thing. It's here and it's totally counterproductive to not take advantage of it. I say to people all the time, folks, I get it. I'm not a huge fan of, you know, three week, two week, one week. I don't mind a couple of days. I get it. However, God forbid, something could happen. Your kid gets sick. Your dog gets sick. You get sick. A thunderstorm keeps you in your house. The Democrats bank their votes early.

1:22:02We are stuck with this system. Unfortunately, we have to play ball with rules we're not really fond of. But it's really important you bank your vote early. I get it. I understand it. But we're never going to change the system if we don't elect guys like Michael, correct? So it's counterproductive to wait. If you can bank your votes, bank your votes. It's Michael. Oh, excuse me. Alfonso for Wisconsin dot com. Michael, congratulations on running a great race. Listen, I told you we had sent a text exchange. I said, listen, man, you know, I'm proud of you. Throw your name on a ballot. It takes a lot of balls.

1:22:38It does because it's totally public. It's the greatest meritocracy out there. It takes a lot of guts to do it. A lot of people will talk about it. And they're not because they're afraid, you know, I win, lose, whatever. Hey, man, listen, life is about meritocracy. I'm proud of you. You ran a great race and I hope everything works out for you. Yeah. And, you know, I just want to take one last second to thank the Dan Bongino show. I mean, nothing has changed more in my life than when I started working for you guys. You're the best bosses in the world. I missed you every day. You were at the FBI.

1:23:11I miss you still. And I miss the McGroin so much. Oh, they're the best. Anita was the best. Jim, the producer over in Dallas. Guy, Justin, I know you've got some new producers now. I haven't met them, but really, it is a family over there. Haley as well. Vince, so thank you guys so much. You guys are amazing patriots. You're saving the country. You really are. Thanks, brother. And they miss Evita too. I obviously want to keep this about you, but please send our love, our support, big hugs. Rachel and Sean as well, good friends of us. I obviously want to make this segment, though, about you. But you do have a great, a great kind of almost unprecedented support network.

1:23:52And I'm sure, by the way, hopefully when you win the race that you'll have that support network. You're going to have like the greatest advisors ever. So, Michael, good luck in the race and don't be a stranger. Hopefully we'll see you on the other side of this. All right. Good to see you. Thank you so much. You got it. It was Michael Alfonso. You know him, folks. Make sure to check out. He's talking about Haley. Make sure you check out Haley's show at noon at rumble.com slash Haley, H-A-Y-L-E-Y. He's been tearing it up there. And the king of morning podcasting, Vince Colon Ace, 8 a.m. Eastern time.

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