INCOMING! Trump Set To Reveal The Deep State's Darkest Secrets TODAY | Episode 87

23:30Dan Bongino:I'm not telling you anything. I plead the fifth. I don't want to incriminate myself. So that's how that went. That's the that's the White House doctor for Biden. That's a close family friend. That's a business partner of the Biden family orchestrating a cover up right there in front of Congress. The same thing happened again yesterday as Jill Biden's work husband, Anthony Bernal. This is the chief of staff over there for for Jill, the work husband. He's a guy who everybody agrees. Yeah, he had a lot of power inside of this White House. He was kind of running the show in a lot of ways. Watch his testimony yesterday.

24:03Cut one. Here's how that went. Mr. Bernal, did you ever advise President Joe Biden to pardon his son, Hunter Biden? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. Mr. Bernal, was President Joe Biden fit to exercise the duties of the president? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. Let the record reflect that Mr. Bernal has invoked the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. Mr. Bernal, please be very clear.

24:38Are you declining to answer the question put to you solely on the ground that you believe the answer will incriminate you? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer the question pursuant to my Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution. Is it your intention? Yeah, it went on forever. To decline, to answer all questions put to you today by the committee on the basis of the Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination. I can represent that that is his intention.

25:02Dan Bongino:Yep, that's it. There's this lawyer saying, yeah, we're not going to give you any answers here. Nothing, nothing. You're not getting anything out of us, so we don't want to incriminate ourselves. The last thing we want to do is tell you the truth, so we're not going to. You know, if this was a normal functioning presidency, how easy would it be to answer the questions? Honestly, if there was nothing to hide, the easiest thing in the world would be, I was very proud of my time working with the president of the United States. He had maximum competence and he did the job and we were following everything as the Constitution lays out in Article 2.

25:33Dan Bongino:That's not what they're saying. They're saying, I plead the fifth. I don't want to tell you the truth about all of this. Here's the other thing. On Friday, there was something of a little noticed but very important piece of testimony by the deputy director of Oval Office Operations. Her name is Ashley Williams. And Rachel Bovard at the Federalist has a fantastic piece on this subject today. But she highlights the fact that according to a source that is familiar with Ashley Williams' five-hour interview, she's an Ivy League educated lawyer, by the way. she told congressional investigators over and over that she couldn't recall the following you ready for this i'm gonna go through this list and you tell me how plausible it is that you can't recall the following items she couldn't recall one if she spoke with president biden in the last week if she spoke with president biden in the last week now you tell me is there any world where you would forget if you spoke to a current or former president of the united states within the last week of your life?

26:40No.

26:41Dan Bongino:No, that's not possible. She's perjuring herself. Of course she remembers if she spoke with President Biden. Unless she's on a lot of drugs. Yeah. Like a lot of drugs. Justin suggested there may be some sort of drugs she's on. Or whatever brain affliction Joe Biden has is transmissible. Maybe she picked it up and now nobody knows anything. Maybe that's the real story. There's some sort of plague running through the Biden White House that's causing everybody to lose their minds. So she doesn't remember if she spoke with President Biden in the last week. She doesn't remember if teleprompters were ever used for cabinet meetings.

27:16Come on. How could I have no idea? Just no idea. She doesn't remember if there were any discussions about President Biden using a wheelchair. I'm telling you right now, if you were the deputy director of Oval Office Operations, you would remember if it came up, if you needed to get a wheelchair for the president. You didn't remember, Ashley, if there were discussions about any cognitive tests for Joe Biden. She doesn't remember if she ever discussed a mental or physical decline of President Biden. You know this is bullcrap. You know that. I'm telling you, if you, like most of us have worked inside of an office environment or with colleagues in some capacity.

27:53If Joe shows up to work with a limp and nobody knows what it is, why is Joe limping? It's the topic of office conversation. Why is Joe limping? What's going on with Joe? Somebody should ask Joe. Nobody thought to themselves, hey, I wonder if Joe Biden, who thinks that dead congresswomen are currently alive and then shouts them out on stage. I wonder if he's having any mental decline that never came up in the office. Come on. She also doesn't recall if she ever had to wake President Biden up and at all. She doesn't remember that. If she had ever had to wake President Biden up again, a former president of the United States.

28:31You had to wake the president up in order to get him to do his job.

28:36Dan Bongino:I guarantee you not only would I remember that, I would remember it in vivid detail. And I'd spend the rest of my life telling that story over dinner to let people know how much I had access to the president. I had to wake him up. I saved the country, basically. I woke the guy up. We had very important things to do. He was sleeping. And I shook him by the shoulders and I said, sir, you got to wake up. We have a country to save. Oh, yeah. I would remember that. And then she doesn't recall how she got involved with his 2020 campaign. Now, again, Chet, if I were to ask you about the various jobs that you've had in your life, chances are you would remember the basics, at least, at how you arrived at them.

29:16What were your circumstances in life when you became the waiter at that restaurant? What were the circumstances in your life when you started stocking shelves at that location? Whatever it is, you would basically have that. When did you become a truck driver? What were the circumstances for that? You know the answer to this. She wants us to believe she has no idea how she got involved with the 2020 campaign. She was just hit over the head. And then all of a sudden she woke up. She's on the 2020 campaign for Joe Biden. What was so crazy? At any rate, they're digging in.

29:53Dan Bongino:And rightfully so. But that's some of the craziest testimony we've seen yet. And that deserved way more attention than it got. So that's why I'm giving it to you today. Coming up, I've got some more details on our effort to get through the deep state. The White House today, quite literally today, is expected to declassify two massive, massive documents that matter a great deal. I've got the details on all of that coming up. And in mere moments, we're going to talk to the great Amber Duke. We've got a lot to get to with her, including the AutoPen presidency. I've got to get her thoughts on all of this.

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33:22Dan Bongino:hose.com it's a pocket hose pocket hose.com love it hey all right we uh the chat's cracking me up uh all right we've got to bring in our great guest from the daily caller from you've seen her everywhere from you know she was on the dan bongino radio show a million times it's the great Formerly Amber Athey, now Amber Duke, and rightfully so. She's got a great husband, Mr. Duke. Amber Duke, good to see you on the program. Great to see you, Vince. Thanks for having me. Okay, so the auto pen presidency. I was just going over some of the details. These guys keep getting hauled into Congress. Some of them are pleading the fifth.

34:01And then we get Ashley Williams, who can't recall if she ever had to wake the president of the United States up to do his job, she said on Friday. Where do you see all of this headed? This whole thing is insane, Vince. I mean, I don't know what's more disrespectful to the American people to suggest that you would be self-incriminating if you had to answer a question as to whether or not the president was mentally well and capable of doing his job or to do what Ashley did and claim that she couldn't remember really basic details about her job, such as whether teleprompters were being used during cabinet meetings or whether she ever had to shake the president.

34:42awake to do his job. Unfortunately, I think if history is any guide, the Democrats will probably not have to face any real legal consequences to this. But I still think it's important for Republicans to keep the gas pedal down because they cannot just allow the Biden team to memory hold this and pretend that it never happened. This was arguably the biggest scandal in modern political history, a president who was functionally not the president. Instead, the country being run by rogue staffers, unelected bureaucrats. They have to remind people of this every single day so that they don't forget, because if the Democrats had their way, they would they would just run away from this and pretend that it never happened.

35:28I mean, the more you think about it, the crazier it drives you, because I just said it a moment ago. But like the fact is, if you had worked in a presidency and you were proud of the job you did, that would be a really easy story to tell. You wouldn't have to plead the fifth. You would just straight up say, look, he did a great job. I was proud to work for him. And I hope Democrats get back into power again or whatever it is you want to say. But that's not what they're saying, Amber. And this pleading the fifth is highly suggestive of the fact that everybody knows the jig is up. Yeah, I think what is really important about this and your point about them pleading the fifth under oath is that there have been a number of Biden administration officials who publicly have been more than willing to say that they think that the president was fine, that there was nothing going on here.

36:11There were a handful of people that came out after that debate against Donald Trump in June of 2024 who were saying that he just had a bad night or he had a cold or, you know, he didn't have the best night of sleep. But then when they get all of a sudden in front of Congress and they're doing it under oath where they are faced with a penalty of perjury if they lie to this congressional committee. The tune has changed. Now, all of a sudden, it's not, no, the president was totally in control the whole time. It's, I have to plead the fifth because I'm actually worried about going to jail if I say the wrong thing here.

36:45I think that tells you everything you need to know. There's also been more details that have come out about this, through this investigation that are particularly disturbing. The president actually coming out of hiding to give this interview to the New York Times, which I suppose they thought was going to clear things up and kind of put this issue to bed. But as is typically the case, when Biden talks to the media, he made things infinitely worse. According to his timeline, the pardons that were granted at the last minute before inauguration day for President Donald Trump on the night of January the 19th happened around 10 p.m.

37:21Are we really supposed to believe, Vince, that the president who was calling a brunch lit every day, whose typical public duties at the White House didn't extend beyond 3 or 4 p.m. was up at 10 o 'clock at night directing his staff to prepare and sign pardons. And then in the New York Times interview, we also learned that there was a game of telephone going across three different groups of staffers where President Biden allegedly told an aide that he wanted to do the pardons, the aide then going to the individuals who would draft the pardons. then they would go back to the staff secretary who would use the auto pen and then the pardons would go over to the doj so the chain of custody here is another issue where it's not clear that the president ever gave the final sign off before those documents were signed with the auto pen which is really the heart of the issue yes um not only is it was joe biden aware of the pardons but they can't produce any evidence whatsoever that Biden gave the final sign off before that digital signature was used on these documents, which is where the legal issue really comes in.

38:31Dan Bongino:Yes, the trust me, bro, chain of custody. So the I saw that there was Rachel Bovard over at the Federalist this week. It has suggested that what needs to happen is we need a January 6th style investigation into this. We need a January 6th style committee in the Congress. Would you support that? Do you think that's a good idea that Congress have a January 6th style committee to hover over all of this? Yes, it sounds amazing. Look, when they decided to, the Democrats that has decided to go after Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro and throw them in jail for refusing to testify to what was a weaponized partisan committee where the Republicans were not even allowed to make their own choices as to who would sit on that committee.

39:18They did not exercise the same powers as the majority. You had Navarro and Bannon claiming executive privilege, which the Democrats rejected, and then throwing them in jail. Republicans turned around and during the Hunter Biden investigation did not hold him accountable for refusing to appear for a subpoena. In fact, a member of Congress, Eric Swalwell, decided to coordinate with Hunter Biden to have this big press conference on the steps of the Capitol while he was actively defying a subpoena. And Republicans did nothing. They behaved spinelessly. If there is a scandal that is worthy of them exercising their power to the fullest extent that they have it in Congress to expose what really happened.

40:07This is it. But don't count me among the people that believe Republicans will actually follow through on those threats, because we have seen time and time again, as I'm sure we're going to get into the rescissions package, that Republicans love to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. That's their MO. They like to be the minority party. They like to complain. They like to whine. But when they have power, they like to deflect and choose not to use it.

40:32Dan Bongino:Yeah. OK, let's move to rescissions. I mean, I think the theme among all of these is that we have to browbeat them into submission just to get them to do even small good things for us. The Senate last night did pass through nine billion dollars in cuts that the president had requested. That includes the USAID projects, NPR, PBS. What do you think the lesson here is from just how arduous this process was. This was a test case and sources that I talked to on the Hill made that very clear. They said, look, the White House sent us this rescissions package. It's a small drop in the bucket of total spending.

41:09It's filled with woke nonsense. It should be a no brainer. If we can't get this passed, then the White House isn't going to bother sending us any more spending cuts. They're trying to make sure that this is possible. And yes, technically, it passed the Senate late last night, but they stripped out$400 million in cuts on what should have been very obvious spending cuts. Of course, you had Murkowski and Collins and Mitch McConnell ultimately voted for it, but expressed some opposition during the procedural processes because they were worried about this program, PEPFAR, which has really been, I think, one of the golden geese for the Democrats and the moderate Republicans of why spending cuts aren't achievable or shouldn't happen.

41:57They have been really telling a lot of half-truths about what the program actually is. It was started as an emergency program that was intended to help with the massive spread of AIDS in sub-Saharan Africa in the 1990s and early 2000s. And like most government programs do, ended up becoming this perpetual slush fund. It expanded greatly beyond this emergency medicine and treatment and prevention program to doing things like LGBT education and a whole host of other left-wing social engineering in Africa, the cuts would not have even really substantially impacted PEPFAR in terms of them providing life-saving medicines.

42:47It would have reduced the overall budget from about$4 billion down to$3 billion. That was too much, apparently, for these moderate Republicans. And even when the program got moved under the purview of the State Department, it was still operating at 86 percent of its previous capacity. And yet all over the media, we heard repeatedly that Trump was ending PEPFAR. So these are the type of lies that the left tells and that moderate Republicans glom onto in order to prevent any spending cuts from happening. So the fact that this became the hobby horse of Murkowski and Collins during this first rescissions package sort of test case, I think doesn't bode well for what's coming down the pipe from the White House.

43:37Maria Salazar, the congresswoman down in Florida, has introduced today an amnesty package to try and allow illegal immigrants to stay in the country, despite the fact that they broke our laws.

43:49Dan Bongino:Democrats are on board with this. Maria Salazar is out doing all the media rounds right now, pushing it really hard. Already this morning, I'm telling people this is crazy. This is a pathway to citizenship. And it's going to be a magnet for more illegal immigration into our country. These things always are. What do you think of this? And what are the chances that this thing has real legs? I think the Trump base will revolt if they catch wind of this. If there's any indication that the president is interested in this moving forward, there's going to be hell being raised. The same way that there was when Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy started floating the idea of expanding the H-1B visa program.

44:27And then Trump himself has been sort of flip flopping on this idea of giving a pass to illegal immigrant farm laborers and restaurant workers. He has suggested that he has some plan to exempt them from the mass deportation operation. Then he walks that back. Now, Tom Homan, the border czar, is saying on on CNN that apparently the plan is still in motion. But I think Trump does respond to his base. And if people show that they're not interested in amnesty, not interested in exemptions for the mass deportations, he will ultimately listen. But this is so typical. There's so much revisionist history happening related to what was sold to the American people in the 2024 election.

45:11Mass deportations is what we were told. Mass means mass, right? That means everybody. And yet you hear these Republicans saying, well, when he said mass deportations, he really just meant the people who came in under Biden, or he really just meant the criminal illegal aliens as if we don't have eyes and ears and as if we didn't go into the voting booth knowing exactly what we were checking that box for. It's actually disrespectful to the American people to treat them as if they're so stupid that they don't understand words that come out of their presidential candidate's mouth.

45:46Dan Bongino:All right, Amber Duke, thank you very much for joining us today. Appreciate you, especially as we roll through some technical hiccups. But you're the best. We'll have you back really soon. Thank you, Amber. Thanks, Vince. Good to have you on the program today. All right, let's see what we're dealing with here. Look, I've got to, I want to get to what's going on with classified information. It's super important. And you've got you've got these reports. John Solomon earlier this week has indicated that there is a grand conspiracy investigation going on in the Federal Bureau of Investigation right now.

46:22A grand conspiracy investigation. This goes all the way back to 2016 and the Hillary Clinton operation to claim that President Trump was colluding with Russia. The entire Obama administration, of course, got in on the act. And by now, you know, most of the players and most of the chapters of this disgusting saga that we've all had to live through and that President Trump was the target of. Now, the FBI thinks that they may be able to build a legal case to go after all of it. John Solomon's been saying this week that that will require the president of the United States to declassify two gigantic tranches of information that are in the possession of the government right now.

47:05and he said that he believes the president is inclined to do it. We got an update on that saga last night. The president of the United States speaking to John Solomon and just the news. Here he is cut eight saying, yes, I am going to declassify these Russia gate documents. Look at this. Would you declassify the classified annex in the Hillary Clinton email case as Senator Grassley has been asking? Well, I would do that. I would do that. Absolutely. I think it's it should be looked at. the whole thing was a scam. Yeah. And I would do that gladly. Great. And there's one other one. So I want to mention in the Durham report, they talk about the Clinton plan intelligence, the intercept where Hillary Clinton approves hanging that Russian shingle on your campaign house.

47:48That's another one that hasn't yet been declassified. Was that another one you'd consider declassifying? I would declassify it. Yeah. Why not?

47:55Dan Bongino:I would absolutely declassify it. All right. There's the president saying, yes, we're going to declassify. Yep, I'll do it. Yep, I'll do it. Now, saying that, I have a feeling that the White House put him on that interview. They set this interview up just so he could address that question in particular. They wanted him to say that because it looks like we could get those documents as early as today. Let me go now to this is Paul Sperry has a report up from Real Clear Investigations. Phenomenal journalist. This is overnight last night. Exclusive secret meeting opens document floodgates on Trump and the Russia hoax.

48:34Dan Bongino:Paul Sperry says that the floodgates that have been holding back all of these long buried classified documents, exposing the government's efforts to claim that Trump conspired with Putin to manipulate the 2016 presidential election, might finally be opening. Trump officials on Sunday held an urgent meeting, an urgent meeting to discuss new information on Russiagate, which they might use to build a criminal conspiracy against Obama and Biden administration political appointees who weaponized the government against Trump. That's according to two Trump officials speaking to Paul Sperry over at Real Clear investigations.

49:17The documents are said to contain very long classified information. This includes a secret 200 page congressional audit that reveals details about how the intelligence community assessment on Russia that was ordered by President Obama after the 2016 election was framed in a way that portrayed Trump as beholden to the Kremlin. In other words, included the Steele dossier. Sources also told Paul Sperry that emails and other records tying the CIA's controversial drafting of that assessment to the FBI's discredited crossfire

49:55Dan Bongino:hurricane investigation could be released as a part of a office of the director of national intelligence report as early as today. The White House was briefed on these developments on Tuesday, The sources said the participants in this meeting on Sunday involved Intel officials and their Department of Justice counterparts. I'm going to I'm going to go ahead and guess that that includes the Federal Bureau of Investigation. They also discussed declassifying investigative notes and depositions taken by special counsel John Durham during his probe of the CIA and FBI and their handling of all of this.

50:35Dan Bongino:So let me let me make it really clear here. I don't think that the John Solomon question and answer portion that we just played for you and that took place last night on Just the News. I don't think that that's in any way a mistake. I think that that was essentially a choreographed rollout by the White House. The White House meeting with Intel officials on Sunday. They knew they had all of this information coming out. John Solomon earlier this week reporting that there's a grand conspiracy investigation going on right now into all of the absolute tyranny of the last decade. They believe that that Jack Smith raid on Mar-a-Lago that happened in Florida is a part of the grand conspiracy.

51:23And if that's the case, they can impanel a grand jury in Florida and the statute of limitations concerns that they have about going back to 2016. They're in. They're erased. The way a conspiracy works is the statute of limitations begins running from the last overt act of the conspiracy.

51:41Dan Bongino:And if the raid in Florida is considered that, well, we're still within the statute of limitations, baby. And we can go back a long time to go after these people. Now, I'll reiterate something that I think I've said here on this program, certainly on the radio show before. I've seen a lot of investigations get started. I've seen a lot of planes take off, but I haven't seen any planes really of meaning land. And so I'm not here to tell you that this is the beginning of something that's going to serve us up a bunch of scalps on a silver platter. I'd be foolish to even assume something like that would happen.

52:18In fact, at this point, I should probably assume that maybe this will go nowhere in the end. But I do think it's important when the president of the United States and the White House and the intel community believe, and the FBI in particular, led by Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, believe that they may have uncorked one of the most important investigations ever.

52:41Dan Bongino:This goes back to something I've been saying about Dan. There was all that drama over whether or not Dan was going to continue to work at the FBI, whether or not he was going to continue to be the deputy director there, whether or not his relationship with Pam Bondi had reached a level that wasn't going to work anymore. All of that, all of that playing out in the public. Dan wasn't doing that. That was just playing out based on all sorts of leaks and everything else. There's a reason Dan is still in that job. Dan doesn't need it. It's not a resume enhancement. He doesn't get any benefit from being in it except for this one thing, being able to help the country in a meaningful, measurable way.

53:18Dan Bongino:And my belief, knowing Dan, my belief, knowing this guy, is that he is staying there in order to achieve measurable results. If this is it, if it's taking down the grand conspiracy that has so upended our country, well, then I can tell you right now, not only will I consider that worth it, not only do I suspect you will consider that worth it, but I know that Dan is going to consider that very worth it to be able to do that. It's a big thing. It's a very, very big thing. So, you know, I know a lot of the media not on this track right now. What's going to happen, though, is if it does emerge today that the White House declassifies these documents, the legacy media will suddenly become aware of what you and I have been talking about.

54:08And then they will set about trying to destroy this story. They will. It's what they always do. The version I expect that they're going to fire with is this is old news and President Trump is reliving old things that don't matter anymore. They're going to try to convince you this is old. It's dead and gone. Let's move on. Trump is just trying to relive old grievances. Don't let them do it. Don't let them dictate this. It's a classic Clinton tactic, actually, to come out and say that a scandal that really does matter doesn't because of how old it is. That's old news, they would say.

54:50Dan Bongino:And then the media would dutifully repeat it, and then they would refuse to talk to their audience in any detail about what was really going on. Can't fall for it. Just can't fall for it. So this is a very big case. Also, the president did say last night when he spoke to John Solomon, he is open to a special counsel to hover over all of this, whether it's the grand conspiracy. He also said last night that the Epstein case should be considered, too. He said, take a look at that. that they should, a special counselor should look into what he described as the hoax of the Epstein case, release any credible information that comes from it.

55:27But remember, the president's hesitancy, and I think it's really important to pay attention to what the president's been saying on this subject. He says that there is clearly some sort of hoax going on that is out of our sight, out of our sight. And I think there's a really obvious takeaway from all of this. If there was credible information that genuinely existed that could hurt Trump and the Epstein stuff that had existed while Joe Biden was occupying the office, the left would have released it. But we've seen what happened with the left when they get control of the levers of power. Would they ever cook up a Trump-Russia collusion hoax?

56:00Yeah, they would. They would. Top to bottom, they would. Would they ever cook up a hoax to fuel felony convictions in New York against President Trump in a case that nobody would ever bring in real life? Yeah, they would. Would Alvin Bragg cook up a hoax? Yes, he would. Will Letitia James cook up a hoax? Yes, she would. Would Fannie Willis cook up a hoax? Yes, she would. Would the Biden administration cook up a hoax to try to salt the earth ahead of the arrival of a Trump administration? Definitely. So when the president keeps pointing, as he has been in the last especially 72 hours, to this theory of an Epstein hoax saying that, hey, there's a hoax going on in the midst of all of this, he's giving you a heads up that once again the left is trying to cook up something destructive and he doesn't want it to happen again he's been through it too many times um and i so i think it's it's highly reasonable to respect his judgment here uh and to and to take a close look at it

56:55Dan Bongino:and to examine what he's actually saying on the subject which is always always an important way to approach all of this hey guys um i'm grateful for you as always this is the best audience in media. Good to have you with us. This is the Vince program. You can watch it rumble.com slash Vince. If you're not with us live right now, you can join us live, get in on the chat. Make sure to subscribe to the podcast. If you're listening for the first time, appreciate you doing that. And as always, I've got the big national radio show comes up 12 to three Eastern each day. It's called the Vince show. Go to the Vince show.com.

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