Is This The October Surprise? (Ep. 2602)

29:32Who are you at this point? I wrote a whole book called Progressive Capitalism. I believe in free enterprise. What happened to the Democratic Party? The Democratic Party understands that the economy is working for my district, right? It's one third of the nation's wealth is in my district or the 50 miles surrounding it. And it's not working for the people I grew up with in Pennsylvania. He does not believe in free enterprise. This dude is a total fraud. Hat tip over to News and CNBC for that clip there. He does not believe in any of that. Free enterprise is not a wealth tax that confiscates people's wealth.

30:08That's not even material yet. This guy supports taxing things like the value of your house and other things that you haven't sold. That's not even fair. Or what's your buzzword? Equity? Joe Kernan understands the problem. The problem, folks, is the government is now such a huge portion of the economy. And Republicans and Democrats have spent a lot of money. I'm not absolving any one party. I'm just telling you, ladies and gentlemen, if you're watching the bond market, I love economics. I don't bore you to death with too much of it. But money has a cost. It's called an interest rate. The U.S. government is having to pay a lot of money right now to borrow money, upwards of 5 % plus in the 10 and 30 year bonds.

30:57Because people are starting to lose faith that the government's ever going to pay this back. This is real. You have big government Democrats like Ro Khanna and others just spending their way into the abyss. I saw this post up on X. This is what people are worried about. Folks, the bond market. If you don't understand the bond market, just ask AI to explain it to you quickly and how it relates to the national debt. It's not hard. The U.S. government is having to pay a ridiculous amount of money. James Lavish, the challenge the U.S. Treasury currently faces is a collapse of investors willing to accept current bond yields in the face of the structural debasement of the dollar and the expected supply the Treasury itself will continue to dump on the market.

31:42The problem is the higher yields go, the more bonds the Treasury will need to sell. If they step in to buy the bonds themselves, it creates further debasement, only exacerbating the self-reinforcing loop. He says, welcome to MMT hell, which is modern monetary theory. It's basically the Democrats and Ro Khanna. Don't worry, just spend a whole bunch of money. The government only owes it to itself. There's no consequence. There are consequences. Folks, there's another consequence to this, too. And this is a warning for Democrats. Dan, why are you warning Democrats? I'm warning moderate Democrats.

32:14Liberals, you're crazy. The show is not for you. I see you trolls in the chat. It's good to have you here as you tell us you're not watching because we like to make fun of you. And I like a little chaos once in a while in the chat. You know, it's like the five on Fox. They bring a liberal on so people can argue once in a while. OK, I don't mind that. I'm just warning the moderate Democrats out there that the Ro Khanna's, the AOC's, the Momdamis, the Kamala Harris's, the communists in your party, it is only, listen to me clearly, it is only a matter of time before they start to target you too. Only a matter of time.

32:52If you're some Hollywood type musician, even some athlete, and you're a diehard liberal who makes hundreds of millions of dollars a year, whatever it is, they're coming for you next. No, I'm really popular. They're not going to come for me. please look up Dan Bongino's show cannibalism theory they will eat you alive you know who found this out the hard way and I'd never play clips like this ever but it's so important Kylie Jenner why are you bringing up Kylie Jenner this is I need you to watch this uh Avery Day is a uh is a content creator does a great job covered this yesterday Kylie Jenner famous Jenner you know uh Kardashian sister whatever she's very wealthy great good for you I don't really care about Kylie Jenner stories.

33:37However, she put out this video log like, hey, here's a day in the life. Watch me get on my private jet, go to Europe or whatever. I guess she thought it was like a flex. She's getting destroyed by cannibalistic liberals. I guess she thought she was safe from this stuff. You hate wealth. You hate wealthy people. It's going to come for you next if you're a wealthy person. Remember this conversation. Don't say I didn't warn you. Check this out. Cam always has the cutest snacks. People are furious. This video got over 40 million views on X alone in just the first two days of it being posted. People are reposting saying no one should have this amount of wealth.

34:18Sorry, I don't know how people watch this and don't feel enraged, much less continue to support them. And all of these responses have millions of views themselves and support on their Again, I'm just throwing this out there in a rare tutorial for moderate Democrats, which I don't usually do. They are coming for you next. And you may say, well, they won't come for me. I'm not Kylie Jenner, but maybe I have a million dollars from a 401k. Really? You've got a really nice house? Go look online at the young socialists who've been indoctrinated by Mamdami, who are blaming every single problem on you, the boomers.

34:58Put it in X. Put it in there. If you're not on X, get on there now. There are people like, I can't believe my grandparents are sitting on this huge nest egg in their house, collecting my Social Security. No, they're not doing that. And yes, they are. Yes, they are. You grew up a lot harder than this generation. And you're like, hey, man, I paid into Social Security. I bought my house and invested. I saved. Why am I the bad guy? Exactly. moderate Democrats these crazy people are coming for you next I can't warn you in any more serious terms not voting is a choice voting for DSA progressive liberal commie Democrats is a really bad choice it's even worse than sitting this out they will come for you next there are crazy people out there who are indoctrinating kids and young adults into believing you're the bad guy.

35:59You may have been a steel worker in Pittsburgh or whatever, saved up, bought a house for, I don't know,$50 ,000 to$100 ,000 30 years ago. Houses may be worth$750 ,000. They're mad at you as if you did something wrong. No, they're not. Yes, they are. Folks, we're really good at these trends. There's a reason this show is, you know, one of the top two or three live streams in the world. Probably, I think, the biggest conservative live stream around. It's not an accident. I spend all day with these trends trying to get out ahead of this stuff. You want to see some of the crazies on the other side and we're indoctrinating your kids?

36:38Here's a blend of just some video and some X posts of people who are in your kids' heads right now. Getting them to hate you. I saw this yesterday on X from Taylor Lorenz. Taylor Lorenz, I don't know what she is. She said she's like a journalist. She's really a lunatic. as this is just a crazy person. But this person has a following. I, again, I swear to you on my life, I thought, I wish I could show you my email without like doxing ourselves in our emails. Did I not send you guys an email and say, Justin, please check this is real. Here is an actual ex post from Taylor Lorenz. This is dated just a couple of days ago.

37:16This isn't from like peak COVID panic. She says, no, but we're also seven years into the pandemic and it's still a little wild that people aren't aware of stuff like sip valves on masks. These are what a lot of us have to say, have to rely on when we're on flights or have to consume water while being indoors for long periods. It's rough. This is a real tweet. Have you not seen these sippy masks on face masks? There are people still talking about masks. Look at this. If you're missing it, you're on audio. There's a mask. People are still wearing it with like little sippy cup holders. These things are great because they warn you that the people who are using them are part of the idiocracy and you should stay away from them.

38:00I'm just saying, like, there are crazy people out there still influencing your kids. You probably saw the whole LGBT bar story where they were like in a mutiny over the fact that they didn't want masks anymore. These are the crazy people who are going to be in charge influencing your kids if we sit this out. I'm not having it. seven years into the pandemic again as if people are dying every single day right now they're dropping everywhere jasmine get a new job listing out we lost four staff members this is insane here's the other one hassan piker why are we playing piker because folks the guy has a massive following i don't like the guy he doesn't like me we're not buddies but i'm not going to deny things like he has a huge audience.

38:45He does. We ignore this at our own peril. Here he is openly, by the way, campaigning with a lot of DSA candidates. Here he is talking about how they want China style Communist Party imprisonment in the United States. Oh, that's no big deal. Yeah, it is to me, man. It is to me. This is what's on the horizon. These are the crazy receipts. Check this out. I will throw you in prison, okay? I want to put you physically behind a prison. I want Chinese-style communism to happen inside of the Democratic Party right now, okay? I want to do cultural revolution shit when I see that. Okay. I'm sure you do.

39:29Folks, this guy has a massive following. This is a big deal. this is not the Bill Clinton Democrat, JFK Democrat party believe them when they talk like this they do want to throw you in prison, they want to throw me in prison, I told you there are people sending us we're following you, we're going to Luigi you whatever happens folks, I've lived a good life I have, I am proud of my service to this great country I'm proud of you for being here I'm proud of what we've accomplished. Just a kid from Queens to build this media empire we built together. You and I, we had to do it together. I can only listen to the show once.

40:14But these crazy people, believe them when they tell you who they are. Because that is who they are. And you want to sit this election out? No. I'm sorry. I hear you. I feel your pain with inflation, gas prices. I get it. I get it. I did not grow up with some silver spoon in my mouth at all. And anyone who knows me growing up will tell you that. I was a police officer in New York. I wasn't a Fortune 500 CEO with 21 with a tech company. You want these people in charge too? Here's Sarah Haynes from The View with, again, one of the craziest insane takes I've ever seen on this Clancy case. The only reason I put this in there is I get tons of emails, DMs and others from liberals who support this woman who killed her three kids who think this is like no big deal.

41:09This lady on The View is like, I don't really get why the husband divorced her. I don't know. Maybe it was like the murdering. I'm just going to throw that out there. This is actually happening. This is this is discourse on the left right now. Check this out. What bothers me is he talks about forgiving her, which I love, but he focuses on that and never jumps to what so many people struggle with. How did the marital love end so quickly when you admit openly your wife got sick? She got sick. It doesn't mean you can be with him and it doesn't mean it doesn't remind you of the worst day of your life.

41:40But I would hope in sickness and in health, he said everyone was worried about her. They were tragically, their arms were around her as she was going down the drain. I would hope that my husband wouldn't sit there and just move right along. Does it bother you that he's remarried now? No, I can't pretend to know timelines or like when you meet someone or some people need love and they need to fill themselves again. I'm not shaming him on any of that. I just don't know why we skipped straight to skipping all the marital things. Did he, when they talked in prison and she didn't ask for forgiveness, did, is that when he served her the papers?

42:14So that's what stood out to me because I felt similarly while watching it to you. But then him admitting she never sought forgiveness. The first thing I would do is, what did I do? I am so sorry I took these three children from us. Yeah, but she's crazy. What the hell kind of dumbass conversation is this? Siax in the chat. Stupid is a choice. You don't have to take the stupid exit off the highway. This may be the stupidest, dumbest exit I've ever seen off the Long Island Express or whatever the hell you're going. You know, they say in sickness and in health I'm pretty sure there's an asterisk there for murder You think, Justin?

42:53Justin, you married? He is not Guy's married I'm pretty sure Guy would have an issue there There's like a little asterisk down there, right? Like in sickness Thank you, Guy I didn't want to put you on the spot Guy was in my ear there He goes, I think I'd have a tough time With the whole murder thing too Me too Me too.

43:19Folks, this is the left. Your understandable complaints about prices, gas, and people who don't like the Iran war, I just said, I get it. I get it. Republicans are not the answer to every single problem out there. I'm just telling you the cause of your problems are Democrats, and not voting is in fact a choice. You are empowering people like this. This is not a minority view from this lady at The View. There are pockets of liberal Karens out there who not only agree, but vigorously agree. Like, you know what? If lady was feeling bad, so murder. Yeah, whatevs. here's another one here's an actual lawmaker they're back to defund the police no yes we had to translate this it's in spanish so you'll hear uh spanish and english this is a delia ramirez who now wants to completely disband the entire department of homeland security and you want to talk about open borders it'll be a tidal wave of people in the country again they're back to the same old stupid ideas if we sit this thing out, which we're not doing on this show.

44:32Vote and bring 10 people with you. Receipts incoming. Check this out. We're going to abolish the Department of Homeland Security. We're going to create a new department. Where we completely defund and strip authority from ICE and CVP and the powers they're using to track you, to keep lists of you. And instead, we're going to create a Department of community safety where immigration will no longer be handled by that department that loves to call immigrants terrorists whenever it wants to attack them. Where our people will no longer have to live in fear of an unjust system. So today we gather to present the Re-Imagine Safety Act, a legislative initiative that will put the community front and center.

45:23And the people who are here with us are the reason for this legislation. They created this legislation and together we will take it to Congress so that we can end the Department of Homeland Security, abolish ICE, put an end to CBP and truly create a community safety system for all. I mean, I know there's probably some people listening who are like, oh, Dan, you know, the Democrats woke up after Trump's second term victory. They're never going to go back to the crazy stuff. It's them right there. back to defund the police crazy stuff and open borders that's them right that's them right there that's them right there folks you even have some republicans who think that there's some mass consensus in the country that loves unfettered illegal immigration there's a congresswoman down here in florida maria salazar who came out with this ad basically condemning the trump administration she's a republican i didn't say that wrong condemning the trump administration's approach to deporting people who are here illegally.

46:24Well, that didn't end well for her. Put up that ex post if you could. She's a Republican. Apparently, the feedback she got from her district was not what she expected. Hat tip open source on Washington Post Rep. Maria Salazar released an ad criticizing Trump's immigration policies is, quote, going too far. But Latino voters in her district told reporters their support for Trump hasn't wavered, While support for Salazar has. I'm just telling you other Republicans out there who are hearing from the liberal media, we're going to get smoked. President Trump and Kristi Noem and Mark Wayne, we're too harsh on deportations.

47:03There's no mass consensus for that position at all. You're just making it up. Hispanic voters who are, you know, good, high-quality American citizens busting their ass and working for a living don't want illegals in their neighborhood either. Why do you talk to them like they're idiots, like David Jolly? I want that chicken. Why do you do that? I speak for Latino vote. You don't speak for Jack's squad. You don't speak for anybody but yourself. I'm not telling you don't vote for Salazar the alternative is terrible we could lose the house there you go practice what you preach I'm just telling you she made a big tactical error here thinking there's some mass position here for illegal immigration in the United States they're not now folks it's my obligation to not just warn you about the Democrats contrast contrast contrast what have you a fair question you should ask now folks in the chat folks watching on demand is okay dan you've made a pretty good case that the democrats and their influencers are pretty scary if they win what is the republican what have they done for us lately okay you know we jokingly call it the nothing is happening file of course everyone in the doomer right and they you know the or the fake folex maga right and the liberal media want you to believe nothing's happening in the trump years so i've got some new additions to the nothing is happening file which we sarcastically call it because there is a ton of stuff happening this is just news i pulled from yesterday that should incentivize you to vote.

48:36I love that. It's my favorite. We may need a third file cap. So again, oh, nothing's being, I saw this the other day, nothing's being done on election and fraud. Okay. We just kicked 760 ,000 people who were fraudulently on Obamacare, thanks to Vice President Vance's task force, the DOJ, HHS. There have been tons of arrests on L.A.'s skid row for illegally registering voters. There have been tons of arrests, well over 100 in Minnesota for the fraud cases. I've already covered this stuff. You can go look it up. This was just yesterday. Another arrest, thankfully supporting voter integrity. This is out of the state of Utah.

49:17This is the United States attorney out of the state of Utah. Another voter fraud caller yesterday. Things are happening. Again, it may not happen at your speed. The justice process is slow, but they're happening every single day. Check this out. Last week, a Utah federal grand jury indicted 34-year-old Damon Matai, CE of Payson, Utah. The indictment alleges that on June 3rd, defendant CE, a federal postal worker, discarded over 300 ballots. CE betrayed the public's trust when he allegedly threw hundreds of ballots in the trash. After CE allegedly threw away the mail-in ballots, several voters complained to the Utah County clerk that they never received their mail-in ballots.

49:58Using county databases, the clerk determined that the rate of voter participation was remarkably low in the area where residents had complained that they had not received their mail-in ballots. Hat tip OAN. Folks, there are tons of these investigations going on. the doomers who don't want you to show up to hand it to the hassan piker left the ladies of the view they want running the country they don't want you to see any of this stuff every then they just move on to another thing they tell you it's not happening and when that happens they move on to something else here's another one yesterday the crude oil out of the out of uh the straight here's tanker Tracker.com.

50:39The numbers have doubled in less than a month. Total oil, crude oil egress is now a huge number with estimated transits at 10.35, given that you can just read it yourself. It's partly attributed to Saudi Arabia having to swing back its exports eastward due to pipeline disruption happening east-west pipeline, but also due to daytime transits under additional CENTCOM protection. I'm just giving you the numbers. All oil traders in the business, you know what this means for you. It's not a great situation in the strait. However, it's not the catastrophe the doom and gloom crowd have told you either.

51:15They're actually building resiliency for petrochemical product exports out of the region for alternate routes. Here's another one. The Purchasing Manufacturing Index. This is a measure of capital investment in the United States, building factories, building big things. You want that to be high. David Asman. Dems can try to badmouth the economy all they want. but the actual numbers are still bullish. The latest Purchasing Managers Index, excuse me, for manufacturing and services came in much better than expected. Anything over 50 means it's expanding. It was dramatically over 50. There's massive investment happening in the United States.

51:53I love when I put out that post every morning. There it is, 53, 57, 56, 58, actual numbers, 58, 58.4, 58.7, overproducing. When I put out that tweet every morning The streets are safer, fact The border is closed, fact And then I put out We're building stuff again, what are we building? The answer is just look at the numbers, man

52:20I mentioned the Affordable Care Act fraud The Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare It is not affordable That's why the Democrats keep complaining about healthcare People like Ro Khanna Well, I thought the Affordable Care Act was supposed to fix that. Now, J.D. Vance, Vice President Vance, Department of Justice, HHS, the FBI, they found all of this fraud in Obamacare, which is inevitable, 760 ,000 people costing us billions of dollars who don't belong in the program. You would think the Democrats would celebrate this, correct? Why would the Democrats want fraud in the government program?

52:57It takes away money, even in the Democrats' worldview, from people who, quote, need it. no you haven't heard a word about this the democrats hate this you're kicking people off of a health care yeah people breaking the law again the doomers won't tell you this stuff he was some coverage on fox and friends by lawrence jones about how many people got booted off obamacare because they were fraudsters check this out enrolled without their knowledge so you got people that's showing up on the rolls that never even uh expected to be on there they didn't even meet the eligibility requirements in some cases.

53:30And then you have brokers just signing people up. Unauthorized enrollments confirmed by the CMS insurer. How much money are we talking about? We're always talking about getting the debt down as well as affordability for Americans. It's$2.2 billion expected savings for taxpayers. Now, the Biden era administration decided that this was going to be one of their main goals, and they were able to accomplish it. Let's look at the numbers. 2021, 12 million people. And you see it go up 2023, 16 million. By 2025, it had risen to 24 million people. So that just tells you the story. Again, you have a choice.

54:14It's not a perfect choice in this election, but it is a binary choice. We have a two-party system. It's not the best system in the world, but it's better than anyone else's. You have a choice. You want to go back to the days of billions of dollars of health care fraud that Biden administration loved because it got more people on the government dole? You want to fight it. You want to go back to arresting Postal Service workers or you want to arrest for potential mail fraud and voter interference? Or do you want to go back to the days of voter fraud rampant left and right doing nothing about it?

54:46You want to go back to the days of capital expenditures happening offshore rather than happening in the United States? You want to go back to the days of 9 % inflation? You want to go back to the days of defund the police, defund DHS, bring China-style communism here? I'm not going back. And neither are you. Show up and vote and bring 10 people. I'm going to fire a few more good headlines at you because contrasts matter. Defund the police, 9 % inflation, or do you want more of this? Rapid response. Here, I saw this on the Trump feed. Mercuria commits$500 million to U.S. Strategic Minerals Reserve Initiative.

55:23Breuters. That sounds good. That sounds fantastic. Here's another one. Headline. More good news. Hanwha Defense to establish$2.2 billion manufacturing campus in Arkansas. Sound good to me. Sounds like what I tell you every morning. We're building stuff again. Here's open source zone. Perspective on gas prices. They're high, no doubt. But perspective matters because you have a choice. Open source zone. Days with the crude oil above$100 a barrel. Obama, 308 days. Trump, 45. zero days. Biden, 83 days. Trump, 47, 24 days. I'm not telling you gas prices aren't high. I'm telling you they were a whole lot higher under the Democrats.

56:05Look at it yourself. You have a choice. There's the graphic right there. It's not even close. 308 days under Obama, we're at 24. I'm not telling you they're not high. I'm not telling you to ignore it. I'm telling you if you don't vote We'll be back to the 308 days Under a Democrat Kamala Harris The wheels on the bus Here's another post Me and Cash moved fast In the drone program at the FBI I thought it was super important This is a really critical post Read it by Hugh Hewitt Some excellent newsy notes from the New York Post The US military Who we've always been told Oh man they're lagging behind Everybody's always in the liberal media We crapping on our military We were told the Israelis are beating us at the drone targeting business.

56:54That's not what we're hearing out of the Middle East. That the tech used against drones and missiles and battleships in the Middle East and on the southern border hasn't, as far as experts can tell, been used against human targets at this stage. But the worry over interceptors has taken a hit with the deployment of new laser tech. Many thought Israel was close to full deployment. Turns out the U.S. is at the leading edge along with them. I know we were told the military's falling behind. Everything sucks. Folks, don't buy into the doom and gloom. Show up and vote. And please, please, please bring 10 people with you.

57:28Please, I'm begging you. I'm actually begging you. Please do it.

57:34Also, there's the AI doom and gloom people. I got Vince coming up in a little bit. We're going to talk about this too. The AI doom and gloom people telling you the world is done. Everybody's going to die all the time. The tech can be dangerous, no doubt. Guardrails are necessary and appropriate. Pace yourselves. Do it the right way, not the easy way. I'm not concerned about investment returns. I'm concerned about returns on my kids not getting dead from your technology. But there's also an AI doom and gloom thing about the economy that I'm here to refute. and I need you to listen to this. Nobody's going to have jobs.

58:06Humans are going to have nothing to do. Folks, we've been told this for hundreds of years. We've been told this forever. We are human beings. We're the only beings in the universe granted by God with the ability to say, I think, therefore I am. Most people, the overwhelming majority of humans are looking for purpose and they're going to find it. Whether it's building things, whether it's carpentry, whether it's figuring out a way to start a business, whether it's software, art, singing, whatever the hell, you're going to figure out something to do. And there is going to be a premium in the future on human-created content.

58:44I think AI is going to make human-created products, everything from ashtrays to art, more valuable, not less. Jeffrey Katzenberg, famous Hollywood guy, put out this big, long post. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but it was about specifically this, AI and movies. He totally disagrees, and I agree with him on this, I mean, I agree with him on a lot of things, that people, human actors, and human-touched movies and scripts are gonna be more valuable. He says this, and it's a long tweet, you can read the whole thing, but this is the operative part. Tools are never the point. The instruments change with every generation.

59:21What endures is taste and imagination, the magical ability to make an audience feel. one of the greatest storytellers of our generation, George Lucas, that's for you guys, succinctly captured the eternal essence of this issue when he said, it's not the how, it's the why. Folks, we used to do a lot of things by hand. We got tools, made things easier, but we've always had humans looking at a car design and being like, you know what? I think that looks really cool because I can relate to other human beings. Machines can't relate to human beings like humans can relate to other human beings. There is going to be a massive premium on human-created content.

59:58And as I said to you in the beginning of the show too, there could be a huge AI breakthrough that could be our October surprise. Folks, there's already been amazing breakthroughs this week and over this past year. Put up that Cicero. Here's an ex-post from Cicero. For all the AI doomers out there, and I get it, be cautious, I understand. A 37-year-old man with a rare blood disease was being sent to hospice. An AI model found this combination of medicines no one had tried for his condition. He responded within a week. He's in remission. You're going to see tens of thousands of these stories. Here's a modi from Anthropic talking about how they found some gene sequence and bacteriophages no one had ever found, even at the PhD level, that could change medicine forever.

1:00:48I don't want to die. I had cancer. I ain't going through that again. Knock on wood. Guardrails, pace it, do it the right way, not the easy way. But I'm not giving up. They just want to steal from President Trump. They want to steal from him the economic legacy he may leave us if this stuff goes right and is done the right way. All right, you know we always pick a comment of the day. I got Vince Colon Ace coming up next for a great interview. Vince is available every day at 8 a.m. Check him out, rumble.com slash Vince. Someone asked me about the rules on X the other day. You can check out the rules for the giveaway.

1:01:22We do. We give away$1 ,776 every single week to a lucky viewer listener. The rules are available at bongino.com slash 1776. Our comment of the day today is, Hi, Heatup. You're doing something right, Dan. You've got a bot magnet. I know. I know. It's hilarious. Like, I can always tell. Sometimes I'll gin people up on X just to see the bots come out in a swarm. It's kind of hilarious to watch. I get a kick out of it. I don't think they understand, do you? You're only building like the engagement. You're really not helping. Well, whatever. But congrats, high heat up. We'll see who wins this week.

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1:03:11Welcoming to the show, The King of Morning Podcasting. You can check him out every day, 8 a.m. Eastern Time. You can watch him on demand anytime. our good friend vince colon ace available rumble.com slash vince of course on the radio at 12 to 3 vf you're doing so much vince that uh that tee up is about uh what 25 30 seconds just to get you on the show but uh welcome back always good to have you well it's a good thing i'm not introducing you then because it would take forever well now i mean with the morning stuff and the afternoon stuff it's a lot but you know i'm like you i just i i i like to work and it's not stupid humble but i just you know what are you gonna do go home and watch teletubbies all day like just do stuff you know it keeps your brain active keeps you my father was just yeah it go i just

1:03:52Dan Bongino:have to say though i need people to understand how seismic this is like not only do you have this epic podcast with this huge audience the radio arrangement that you just pulled off with you've got your afternoon bongina report your morning bongina report you're on some of the biggest stations in the whole freaking country this isn't there's a lot of people who say things like oh i'm nationally syndicated and then you find out they're in like pedoinky wherever and And it's not actually nationally syndicated of value. This is value. Dan Bongino's voice is literally heard everywhere. So if we're going to have a good country, it's going to be thanks to people like you speaking to it.

1:04:25Dan Bongino:And I'm grateful. I think it's really cool that you have this. It's awesome. Well, I gave an interview and someone said, why aren't you going back to your old time slot? I was like, well, why? Vince is there. Why would I? Vince is kicking ass and taking names. Why would I want to be my old time slot? I think Vince is doing great. Like there's no reason for me to go back to a time slot. We've got a guy over performing there. I said, I'll take whatever else you got out there. You got mornings. And it just turned out that the footprint was pretty big. It's something like 300 stations for the morning.

1:04:56The afternoon is building. I don't know what we're at now. So I appreciate the compliment. You know, we always chat and I always tell you, I give you like, hey, what do you want to talk about today? What's interesting? Here's what I'm talking about. You brought up an article to me in the Wall Street Journal as we were chatting. Shamefully, I missed. The Wall Street Journal is definitely like center right, sometimes center left, I think, on immigration issues. But I read it. I enjoy it. I enjoy the op-ed column. This article is fascinating. If you can screen share, it is about MAGA podcasts, air quotes MAGA podcasts.

1:05:32That'll be important, the air quotes in a minute. Supposedly losing interest in President Trump. I don't buy it. Apparently, they analyzed a bunch of of audio and video. Your take on this article, I think the premise is way off. But what are your thoughts on this?

1:05:50Dan Bongino:It's definitely off. So let me let me show you this. This is a Wall Street Journal piece. It says MAGA podcasters are tuning out Trump. I was like, really tuning them out. I talk about them every single day. I know you talk about them every single day. They say MAGA podcasters are tuning out Trump. We tracked what they are talking about now. And what you find out is the methodology on this quote report is they used an AI tool to analyze 70 ,000 hours of podcasts. Now, who are the hosts that they analyze? A little hard to tell. You see some of the video widgets that they have on screen showing pictures like Ben Shapiro and Michael Knowles.

1:06:26Dan Bongino:And that suggests they were a part of this methodology. But the claim is that MAGA commentators are tuning out Trump and that as we're getting closer to the election, there's Joe Rogan. I don't know. I wouldn't think of him as a MAGA guy. Candace Owens is on screen. So as we're getting closer to the election, they say we're not talking about Trump as much. We're talking a lot about people like James Tallarico. We're talking about the Lindsay Clancy trial and therefore mentions of Trump are going down. Now, the Wall Street Journal, the way that they're assessing this, Dan, they're very heavily implying that MAGA podcasters are embarrassed by Trump, that Trump is a liability or something.

1:07:06Dan Bongino:in that we don't want to talk about him as much because he's a drag on our electoral fortunes. And so therefore, we're suppressing conversations around Trump. This whole premise could not be more wrong. In fact, it's just crazy to me that the Wall Street Journal would suggest that somehow Donald Trump is a drag on the electoral fortunes on the right and that MAGA podcasters don't want to talk about him anymore when the entire concept of the convention was, let's talk about Trump because he's the guy with the one track record worth talking about. We've got plenty of dunderhead Republicans who are sitting in the Senate who refuse to give us even simple things like election integrity.

1:07:43Dan Bongino:Donald Trump, through sheer force of personality, the power of the executive, through a relentless pursuit of the things that we voted for, has piled up a stack of victories that are worth talking about. So when it comes to talking about Trump, I talk about him all the time. I don't even know what they're talking about. In fact, one more point here, and I know this is just totally self-indulgent, but I can't help it. In the Wall Street Journal piece, they're like, and Donald Trump has taken the calling James Tallarico, James Tallafrico. Yeah, I came up with that. That was my name. If they were actually assessing MAGA podcasters, they would have given old Vince Colonnais credit in the Wall Street Journal piece.

1:08:20Dan Bongino:I don't think this is a very good piece of reporting, Dan. I'll expect a footnote from them going forward. I have two points to make on this one. first how you categorize a air quote maga podcaster is critical correct um for listen there are people who you know like candace owens's show i personally am not a fan of some of the content but candace owens has a big audience there's no question about but i categorizing her as a maga podcaster is is is a grotesque misreading of the entire ecosystem uh also So and then I'm not insulting anyone by saying this. I mean, I've had my own disagreements with them on certain issues, but this is by no means an insult.

1:09:04Categorizing Ben Shapiro and Michael Knowles as MAGA podcasters. Guys, really? Could you be more like out of touch? You know, they say like read the room. There are no way they're conservative podcasters. Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan is more of a libertarian type who will go back and forth between like a Bernie Sanders idea and a President Trump idea when it comes to drug deregulation. He's not a MAGA podcaster. So the categories matter. It's like suggesting, you know, the liberal podcasters aren't talking about AOC and putting my face up there. Well, I'm not a liberal podcaster. What are you talking about?

1:09:40And the second point I like to make on this is citing how there's been a shift in coverage towards dreadful Democrat candidates like footnote Vince Colonnese, Talafrico, is just a reflection of the political time we're in. It's election season for midterms. Like, did you guys miss that? It's like citing a collapse in football coverage a week after the Super Bowl. I don't know what happened. I'm so confused. Listen, Wall Street Journal, I like your outlet. I really do. but this is a really poor reading of the room.

1:10:11Dan Bongino:Well, it's kind of a way of saying that MAGA podcasters, however they're categorizing them, are actually talking about the news as opposed to what the Wall Street Journal is doing, which is inventing a story that doesn't even make any sense. Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more, but I'm really glad you should. I miss that. I read the journal every day and I miss that one. I want to address this. David Marcus, who I like a lot, has an ex post up. and Marcus is suggesting that the political environment for Republicans may not be as dreadful as the mainstream media liberal media is painting and I've even seen a lot of people in the right-leaning media and listen folks I'm not mad at you for putting it out there if the warning signs are real get them out there I saw Steve Dace had put out a post that went viral about the political climate in Iowa which is not great listen I don't mind people putting out what they're hearing.

1:11:05If anything, it should get people motivated. Like, wow, this doesn't sound great. Show up and vote. However, Vince, I think we can both agree the polling on Republicans has been just dreadful. And candidly, even the polling on Democrats, El Syed was predicted to win by 10 points, won by barely one, barely got past Haley Stevens in Michigan. So the bottom line, folks, is you just the one way to ensure you're going to lose an election is by sitting it out, because not voting is in fact a choice. You are handing the election to people who have done all this damage to our economy and our border, street crime and everything else.

1:11:42Dan Bongino:You know, you and I, through the years now, we've been the inheritor of an amazing time slot, that noon to three time slot that was dominated by the great Rush Limbaugh, created all of talk radio. And Rush often comes to mind when we have stories like this. He told us, do not panic, never give up. It is never time Time to give up. Stay in the fight. OK, so that's the advice as we start on this topic. Here's the thing. I am watching really closely these candidates, and I got to say, I think these Democrats are way more panicked than the pollsters are letting on. And the reason I note that is because I'm watching some of their most high profile freaks right now who are doing everything they can to pull the wool over the eyes of the voters about their actual positions.

1:12:27Dan Bongino:James Talafrico has spent the last few weeks trying to convince you that he actually believes that there are two genders. Now, why is he doing that? Why a guy with that much game tape of him saying that there are six genders, that God is non-binary, that abortion is enthusiastically endorsed in the Bible, why is he coming out in these waning weeks and suddenly telling you, I'm not as freaky as that video suggests that I am? The answer to that is his internal polling. Something catastrophic is going on with the Talafrico campaign, and he is desperate to try and recover from his decline. I take that as a very good sign.

1:13:03Dan Bongino:Meanwhile, Abdul El-Sayed in Michigan is distancing himself like crazy from this Hassan Piker character by constantly not even mentioning his name. He's Voldemort now. You don't even mention his name. You can't say it. There's something bad that comes along if you do. And he says, oh, he's just a Twitch streamer from California. I don't know why we're talking about this guy. Now, he's not straight up condemning him because he definitely wants the radical left who supported him in the primary to support him in the general. But the reason he's creating tactical distance is because this is destroying his campaign.

1:13:35Dan Bongino:So I'm watching these stories play out and I'm going, guys, there's something really meaningful happening right now. These lefties are running away from the scandals that they've created for themselves. And there's a tactical reason for that. It's the one time where the voters will actually have some impact on whether or not they get power. I take that as a positive sign. And boy, we really do need to stop these guys. I think your attitude is right. We should come into this like we are behind, because you should play with all the energy necessary to make it so that not a single person stays home and thinks that this is a fait accompli.

1:14:10Dan Bongino:It is not. This is a real fight. But there are some very encouraging signs that we can win it. You know, I'm glad you brought up Rush because that was Rush Limbaugh. God rest his amazing soul. That was his message. And Rush Limbaugh was this. And Vince, you know, for as great as you are on the spot, and, you know, I loved doing the spot before I left for the FBI to 12 to 3. I mean, both you and I would acknowledge we're not Rush. We're not even like close to Rush. Like we're a fraction at best of Rush's power. He was on something like to put in perspective, folks. I don't know, Vince, what are they, like 800-something conservative stations around the country between Salem and Bonneville and Westwood and Premier?

1:14:51Rush was on like 799 in that spot. It's fractured now, and there were good friends of ours, Clay and Buck. You got Dana. Everybody's kind of friendly. It's not as vicious as people think it is. But Rush was kind of a unifying voice. I mean, he didn't tell anybody how to think, But he just when when people would freak out and panic like this, he was that kind of calming voice at noon where everybody's like, OK, if I show up, it'll be OK. That's kind of missing in the movement now. I mean, the only one with that kind of messaging power is is the president. But he's in office. So, you know, Rush was not in office.

1:15:30And I guess my point is there are people we're Americans. We expect excellence all the time. I'm not mad at people for like saying, hey, inflation's impacting me. Yes, speak out. But I'm just asking for a little bit of perspective that roughly 80 percent of this inflation was brought on by Joe Biden. And if we don't, in fact, vote Republican, you're going to get that 80 percent inflation that's kicking you in the teeth back. I know we have work to do. And Rush was the kind of guy who was like, just give it perspective and think through this decision because there's a consequence for these people, the Democrats getting back in office.

1:16:07Yeah.

1:16:08Dan Bongino:I mean, Rush had perspective. Rush understood our nation's history. Rush understood that we come from Americans that overcame improbable, impossible odds in order to succeed. We are the inheritors of 250 years of amazing odds-defying history. And so, you know, have some sense, have some perspective, baby. It is possible to win these fights. We've actually been through worse. I think there's a lot of people who kind of look at the current moment. They always think this is the worst it's ever been. No, it's not. No, it's not. The American Revolution was unbelievable. The odds that they were able to overcome and survive and create this constitutional republic.

1:16:46Dan Bongino:The American Civil War was hundreds of thousands of people dead. World Wars I and II, the great ancestors of this country who won two successive world wars, incredible people. The people went off to Vietnam, the Korean War, the Gulf War, you know, these wars in this century, the frozen chosen. I mean, you think about our history and then you're like, this is the worst it's ever been. No, Americans have overcome incredible odds. We should be inspired by that and follow Russia's message. Never give up. Stay in the fight and continue to get these victories. And I think it's important, too, while we're talking about Russia, I mean, you and I both have very similar career trajectories, radio, podcasting, TV work.

1:17:27You know, Rush kept other things in perspective too. I had Alex Epstein on yesterday talking about, and I've had Alex on before about climate issues, but I had him on, he's writing a book about AI and he's got some essays coming out. And I watched some of his X videos, everybody's clipping now. And I was like, wow, a guy who's reasonable. Like he's not telling you the world's gonna be free of all problems, AI is gonna solve all our issues, but he's also not telling you like that's the doom and gloom. And Rush was really good at kind of, you know, parsing that. your take on on on ai my my issue with it now is yes obviously it can be dangerous just like other massive technological revolutions nuclear power electricity human flight you don't want to do that wrong you hit the ground right yeah however the potential and i covered this a little bit during the show just in the last few months and years the massive breakthroughs in medical technology, disease prevention, cancer.

1:18:22I mean, you know, I think it requires a voice like that to kind of tell everyone like, yes, as they say, when you're shooting a firearm, like fast isn't fast, smooth is fast going forward.

1:18:35Dan Bongino:Yeah, I think AI has tremendous potential to enrich human flourishing and tremendous peril if it's misused by bad actors. I think the I think the risks are probably greater from human bad actors than they are from an autonomous AI becoming out of control. I think if communist China wields too much control over artificial intelligence on planet Earth, it's to the detriment of humanity. I think if criminals decide to use AI to invade a financial system and rob you of your money, that's going to be really perilous. And it's going to increase the capability of bad actors who don't have their own technical know-how to pull off a technical heist that they never could have pulled off before.

1:19:14Dan Bongino:So yeah, there are immense perils. But then, of course, there's the immense capacity for human upside. We could watch an explosion in productivity. We could watch as some of the luxuries that were only accessible to the wealthy before are suddenly accessible to everybody, whether it's through autonomous driving, through having a personal assistant, through having everything, all of the kind of sort of the rote tasks of your life very quickly turned into something that can happen. or the snap of a finger, it happens outside of your control, and you don't have to pay more than a dollar for it. It is an amazing thing.

1:19:49Dan Bongino:And so I think there's a wisdom in the philosophical debate, which is like, how do we go forward and do this the right way? You don't want AI to attack humanity. You don't want it to be used as an attack on humanity. You want it to be guided by the principles of, I would say, Western liberalism, right? Like, I wish every AI system would ingest the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as its founding conscience. Like, you know what I mean? Like, make that like a prerequisite that it has to be respectful of constitutional rights. It has to be respectful of the reality that we are not God, that we were created by him.

1:20:25Dan Bongino:That should be the attitude. But this idea that we would, you know, like, somehow just like straight up say, we're not doing AI, we're not doing any of this, we're not, you know, using this computing power to our own benefit. I think that's shooting ourselves in the foot. And I think that is surrendering the battlefield to bad actors who do have sinister intentions for humankind. Well, I know you're a cerebral guy when it comes to analyzing the economic situation. And you mentioned the word productivity and the way that productivity is a very simple word. What do we produce? I mean, wealth is I'm not talking about spiritual wealth.

1:21:02That's more important than anything. I'm talking about just material wealth. The United States is the most materially wealthy country in the world. Our poorest state is richer than the average Canadian citizen. It's just true. Like we are wealthy because we produce stuff. We produce medicines, we produce cars, we produce computers, and we produce them at enough of an income base for American workers that they can afford it. It doesn't make any sense to produce a bunch of Bentleys in a third world country where no one's gonna be able to buy it. So we have got this like perfect blend right now, not perfect, but as close to perfect of buying power plus production power.

1:21:37And I saw a thing about Muse, this new AI app from Facebook, Meta. And Muse, it was a post where this guy was like, hey, listen, my most valuable commodity is time. So I'm not recommending you do this. I would not connect any AI app to my finances right now until it's more advanced. However, I'm just telling you what the guy put out there. He said, I plugged it into my credit card statements and my economic statements, and it produced in just minutes this spreadsheet and it showed me all these things I was wasting money on, subscriptions to apps that I hadn't used, double subscribed apps under different emails.

1:22:12He said it saved them hours. It was done like that. He didn't have to pay a personal assistant like you just mentioned. And second, it saved them a boatload of money. That's going to reverberate throughout the economy.

1:22:24Dan Bongino:Dude, I'm using it. Do you use any of this stuff? I've been using GrokBot, actually. I've been trying it. So, so I've, Grock is kind of cool. Elon made Grock, Grock. And then they came up with this thing called GrockBot, which is like an always on like AI that you can have do routine tasks without being attentive to them at all times. So like little things like my calendar, I've, I've always got issues in my calendar. I've got to make sure things are populated. I'll have it go through my inbox and find things that need to be on my calendar. It'll fill out my calendar for me. I'm not doing this by hand anymore.

1:22:53Dan Bongino:Things like, you know, alerting me to all of our great sponsors on the program. I get an alert each night before I go to sleep. Here are the four sponsors you're going to be talking about on the show tomorrow. So I have a chance to think about them. And just get an alert right to my phone. It tells me that. I don't have to go through my email. I don't have to handwrite all this stuff. So in other words, I'm using it to try and simplify some of the tasks that I would otherwise have to exert all sorts of time and effort into doing. And meanwhile, like in terms of the creative side, that's me. I'm coming up with the content.

1:23:22Dan Bongino:I'm coming up with all my thoughts on the subject. I mean, have you ever tried to like have AI try and write a monologue for you? like, hey, write a monologue on this subject. It sucks. It's nowhere near what humans can do. And so you just have to realize, like, what is its value? How do you use it? And then and to be smart about it. I think on an individual level, I think a lot of tech literacy is important. Like you should teach your kids well, how to use tech to your advantage to enhance you, not to replace you, but to make you better, to make your life better. That's the goal. You know, what it's great for.

1:23:58It's amazing for editing. You know, when you've got a hanging participle here and a colon should have been a semicolon or you got a run on sentence. Like I don't, I listen, it's just me. I'm not angry at people. I know there was that big fake controversy with Druckenmiller at the Wall Street Journal. Like I wrote it with AI and he was like, yeah, I'm not a great writer. Like, I don't really care. They're my thoughts. I don't do that. I'm not angry at people who do, but I will have it edit. And it's just so easy. I used to send them over to Paula or even Jasmine. I go, hey, can you read through this?

1:24:30And someone always misses something, you know? Yes. Always. It's just human nature, especially in a long one. With AI, it saves a ton of time. And I think that for me is definitely the most value added.

1:24:41Dan Bongino:And I do think that what it's probably going to create is because good art is like, it will be so easy to create with AI. I say good art, the kind of art that's visually pleasing or maybe sounds good to your ear at first, I think what's going to happen is it's only going to create a more enriched market for human-created art, for human-created products, because everything is going to become sort of so similar to everybody else. You've already noticed it. Like, for instance, if you go to, like, a civic organization or, like, your school, suddenly have you noticed that, like, the posters they put up on the wall look really good?

1:25:16Dan Bongino:It didn't used to look like that. The posters all of a sudden, like the band announcement looks phenomenal. You're like, how the hell did they do that? And you realize it's AI and you can tell immediately it's AI because it all sort of looks the same. It has kind of the same underlying quality. You know what I mean? Like in typically in science fiction, they call it the uncanny valley. There's something not quite human about this. There's something just off about it. The reality is, I think as AI rises and becomes more ubiquitous, it's going to create a premium on human talent, human art, human music, human ingenuity.

1:25:51Dan Bongino:I think it's only going to increase the quality of the human products and the desire to acquire them. That's so crazy. I covered that at the end of the show today, how the human touch is going to become so much more valuable. You're going to see entire product lines that are going to say on the bottom, you know, like made in China, it's going to say made by human hands. And people are going to be like everything from like an ashtray to a painting. People are going to prioritize human touch. I could not agree with you more. That was so like eloquently stated and absolutely true. Anyone telling you otherwise is totally full of crap.

1:26:30The sameness is going to drive people absolutely crazy.

1:26:33Dan Bongino:I have one other prediction for you. And I've been thinking about this a lot. You know how Elon calls self-driving in the Teslas? He calls them FSD, full self-driving. That's what it's called right now. That title's not going to last. And here's why. Because once everyone's using autonomous driving, self-driving will be the person who grabs the steering wheel. It's not going to be called FSD forever. In fact, I bet you within the next few years, they're going to change the name of that. Self-driving is when you're actually driving your car yourself. I'll make another prediction too. I'll make another prediction.

1:27:04People are going to get, I'm not telling you like Waymo and Uber that they eventually go autonomous and Tesla is a great product. It's going to be a huge bar. Some people just want cost. They just want, they're going to the deli five, six blocks away. It's an 80-year-old woman who is living on Social Security. She doesn't really care. Just get me to the deli and back. Fine. There are going to be people going to the airport who I swear to you are just going to crave like chatting a conversation. There's going to be entire companies that are like, we don't use autonomous vehicles. is that there's a dude behind the wheel of a woman.

1:27:35I'm telling you, you know what they're going to do here? I'll give you the idea right now. They're going to go old school yellow taxi with the checkered thing on the side, the light on top. And that is going to become a commoditized service. Like, hey, it's a human driver. Check it out. Guaranteed.

1:27:49Dan Bongino:Yeah, vintage driving is going to be a big thing, I think. Vintage driving. Don't miss Vince's show nationally on radio 12 to 3. You can find them all over the country. And rumble.com slash Vince. It is free. Download the Rumble app. Join his live chat at 8 a.m. Eastern. Watch him on demand anytime. Vince, we really appreciate you coming on. Thanks so much. Thank you. And can I tease one more thing? Of course, please. I just told people on the show yesterday, I don't have a date yet, but we are imminently going to be having a big conversation with the vice president of the United States. So I just want people to know that they should subscribe to the show because our conversation with J.D.

1:28:26Dan Bongino:Vance is coming soon. I'm hearing this for the first time. This is amazing. Are we getting that out? I mean, we got to. Well, here's what we'll do. We'll put that out to the Bongino Report email list. Bongino Report AM, I'll mention it. Bongino Report PM. I know you always have the best questions, so I'm looking forward. We'll actually clip it for my show, too. We'll just steal your stuff and footnote it like we'll footnote Telfrico from now on. Thanks a lot, Vince. We appreciate it. Talk to you soon. Thanks, brother. There you go. Vince Colonese, king of morning podcasting. I told you to check him out at 8 a.m.

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