Karma (Ep. 2586)

27:07Thank you for speaking clearly in a soundbite on the matter using snapshots and visual images and speaking the truth. The only possible reason you would want to expand mail-in balloting when the New York Times themselves have acknowledged in a piece I just showed you put the snapshot on the screen are prone to fraud rejection rates and error there it is right there is because you want fraud and errors and rejected ballots the fraud is built into the system you like the fact that the statistics show that the rejection rates are double. You can reject votes you don't like. And then you combine it with ballot harvesting, where some random third party can go out and just harvest votes.

28:00You don't know what they're doing. What do you harvest votes? What are they doing with those votes when they get the envelopes? What are they doing with those ballots? The only reason is because you would want to cheat. But ladies and gentlemen, I want to just dial back to the beginning of the show. Yes, it's important we talk about mail-in ballots, voter fraud. It's important we talk about free markets like Emma Camp. It's important we talk about the use of X and Donald Trump in messaging. But this show is not about voter fraud, free markets. The show is about the messaging war. And tactics and tools we can all use, because we're the leaders we've been waiting for, as my friend Ginny Thomas has said often, that we can take them into our own districts, our own county commissioner races, our own congressional seats.

28:50I don't care if it's the race for dog catcher. Visuals, optics, short videos, sound bites, snapshots, regardless of the topic, voter fraud, free markets, spaying and neutering your dog. It doesn't matter what your issue is. The messaging, if you lose the messaging, you can win the issue all day. We've won the issue for 100 years. nobody wants to pay higher taxes, nobody wants to send their kid to a crappy school, and nobody really wants the government controlling their own healthcare. They just want it for other people. So if we've won the issue, how do we lose these fights? Because we've lost the messaging.

29:31Visuals, snapshots, soundbites. What else did I tell you? I said, try, it's hard, and I do it myself sometimes. Try as often as you can to not make assertions but ask questions. I told you that in the beginning of the show. It triggers something in the human brain you can't prevent. Did you watch a show on TV last night? There you go. See, some of you right now, you can't avoid it. Right now you're thinking about, yeah, you're watching the show. Notice I didn't tell you, you watched the show on TV. Now, you don't want to talk all the time in questions. It would be annoying. But you want to use it tactically to your advantage.

30:08Because we bring receipts on the show and I want to try to give you examples of how it works. Our excellent transportation secretary, Sean Duffy, in conjunction with the DHS secretary, Mark, Mark Wayne Mullen, are cracking down on this may seem like a kind of an esoteric issue. It's not. Folks, we have people driving big rigs on our highway who don't speak English, who we don't even know if they can freaking drive. These are multi-ton vehicles. These are like death machines in the wrong hands if you're not treated right. I love our truckers. Thank God they're skilled and stuff. But we all agree, right?

30:47If you're going to drive on public roads, especially a multi-ton machine like that, you should probably know what you're doing. Watch the messaging in this. First, I'm going to play clip number one where Mark Wayne Mullen lays out the problem. We've had a bunch of commercial driver's license CDL schools that are accrediting these people. They're getting driver's licenses they shouldn't get. He lays out the problem. But it's part two, whether he knows it or not, I think he did. He uses the ask questions, don't make assertions thing. And watch how the messaging is so much more effective. But first, I want you to hear about the problem first.

31:20This is just about a minute. But thanks to Duffy and Mullen, we've got some work getting done on this. Check this out. identified a thousand a thousand fraud cases. A thousand between individuals that work for state DMVs to companies that are hiring these individuals illegally put them in the or putting them on the streets. To front companies to where literally these truck drivers will get pulled over, go into a truck stop, take off the the D. O. T. numbers off the side of their truck and the name and simply put another one right over the top of it while they're at a truck stop there's videos of it being shown all over the place and they're immediately right back in the business fmcsa or dot would take them out of service and they would just simply change their name and keep going because why couldn't they their driver's license just say no name given so no one even knows who they are no name given what's the point of a driver's license if it's no name given.

32:27Andy's looking at me like, Andy, if it's a driver's license, you think they should name the driver? That's a good point. Andy's going to try that. Democrats don't want voter ID. Andy's going to try to get a license that says no name given. You can't in the great state of Florida. And we're just going to present that at the voter. No name given. Hey, man, it was good enough to drive in the words. Mullen's like, what the hell is going on here? This is the insanity of the modern socialist Democrat position. Open the borders. Let anybody in here. Our road signs in Florida are in what language? English.

33:03English language. Do you, just an idea, fellas. Do you think if you're on public roads and there's a sign that says stop, you should know what stop means?

33:16Or at least what the, you know, the big red sign means. It's probably a good idea to speak English. But again, today's show is not about people driving multi-ton machines who don't belong here and don't speak English. Dan, it should be. No, I played it for you. You know the problem. Today is about messaging and why we're winning and how we can do this better. Because no sane person, no true Scotsman, but no sane person thinks this is okay. Here's Mark Wayne Mullen When the reporter responds As every liberal hack goon reporter always responds Oh, the border 20 million people crossed in illegally But a very small portion have raped and murdered And cut people's heads off Oh, okay That's kind of like the black swan event we want to avoid, correct?

34:09It's like saying, you know what? I'm not really worried about plane safety Because less than 1 % of planes crash When they crash, you've got a problem. You know what the problem is? You're dead. And it's over. Those are called black swan events. You do everything to avoid. Watch Mullen turn it around and ask the question. This is how effective this stuff is. Because the reporter had no idea what to say. Turn it around. Frame it as a question. Great messaging tool. Check this out. You're saying 1 % is okay? Because that 1 % is what caused this right here. 1 % is one too many. I said this in my remarks.

34:43every single illegal that maims or kills an individual is 100 % preventable. I'm trying to prevent every one of them. I don't care if it's a fraction of 1%. I'm coming after you. I'm removing you from the road because it should never take place. Every death at the hands of an illegal is one too many. You see the effectiveness DHS Secretary Mullen in flipping the script and asking the question does for the message. Folks, we always win on the message. It's the messaging of the message we traditionally always got our asses kicked. We just did. We were just not very good at it. Telling you, man, I've watched campaign videos for Republican candidates at the federal level, from House to Senate to the presidency.

35:37and you watch him on TV and you're like, are any of these memorable at all? I mean, the only campaign ad I think that sticks out to people, you know, pre-Donald Trump, you've seen people write books about it, was the Bill Clinton ad with, you know, Hope Arkansas and the Ronald Reagan ad, It's Morning in America. Like, that's really all people remember. Not now. People remember this stuff all the time because we've done so much work to transform the Republican MAGA messaging machine into an absolute juggernaut. You've now got Fox, you've got Newsmax, you've got OAN, you've got Breitbart, you've got Bongino Report, my aggregated website out there.

36:20You've got this show. You've got The Daily Wire. You've got Steve Crowder. You've got a ton of people. You've got Dana Lash. You've got 1 ,000 people out there. You've got so many options now. And I'm telling you, they're really, really good at this. the messaging war is starting to transform itself. And the Democrats don't know what to do. I really, in the past, I have never seen Democrats in such a panic like they are now about something they voluntarily brought on themselves. I'll bring this up with Graham Allen. He's our guest later today. He has a new book out as well, Stand, Fight, Win. I'm going to bring this up on him later.

36:53The Democrats brought this Hassan Piker problem on themselves. The Graham Plattner Nazi tattoo guy, they tried to cover up. He even tried to cover up the tattoo. They were horrified about it, embarrassed, not because they didn't agree with it because they knew it wasn't going to pull well. The tattoo thing, they had to, here's the rug. The Piker problem, they did this themselves. They invited this guy in the tent. I said on Laura Ingram's show last night, I said, Laura, you know, they're running on this. We have a big tent. It matters who's in the tent. You invite Michael Myers from the Halloween movie with the slasher knife.

37:27It matters that he's in the tent. You invite people into the country and you give them a CDL license to drive a commercial vehicle, multi-ton vehicle, and they don't speak English or know how to drive and people die, it matters that that was one out of a thousand or one out of a hundred people. It matters. And it certainly matters to the families who lost people.

37:50God rest their souls. It's just a damn shame that their voices are ignored. Oh, it's only 1%. Tell that to the moms, the angel moms and the angel dads out there. Tell that to them. It doesn't matter. It's only 1%. Yeah, 1%. I killed my kid. Tell that to their face. Black Swan events matter. I mean, think about it. There's a 1 % chance there's going to be a financial recession based on mortgage-backed securities that's going to destroy the whole housing market and bankrupt millions of people. Oh, that actually happened, Justin. But don't worry, Justin. It's only 1%. Sick of these idiots. Folks, on a more positive note, because again, I talked about, you know, non-Heath Ledger Joker smile.

38:45We're winning the messaging war. We just are. The receipts are everywhere. Anyone telling you otherwise is just full of crap. They're liars, grifters, doomers. That's all they want to do is, you know, bitch and moan and complain all the time. It's exhausting. It's exhausting. the future is bright do you guys remember listen this i may be aging myself here those in the chat give me some late 40s 50 year old reinforcement i need it here i know i was alive prior to the internet i don't feel that old but i am chronological time matters can't ignore father time you remember conan o 'brien used to have this segment on his show it was in the 90s and the segment, it was in the year 2000.

39:29They would sing the song, in the year 2000. Remember the 2000 seems so far off? 2000. It's two decades plus later. Do you remember that? Well, to show you and bring some receipts, obviously I can't predict the future. I get it fairly axiomatic. You remember that segment, right? I'm 76. Hey, good for you. Thanks for being in the chat. folks the future is incredibly bright right now but there's a couple warning signs so i'm going to call this the dan bongino in the year 2000 segment because what does the future look like he loved this segment i like it too because you know no one can predict it but there's a couple let me start with kind of the bad news first i saw this post up yesterday how many of you like to pay in cash in the chat.

40:19I'm one of them. If I can pay in cash, I try. I don't like paying interest on credit cards, no matter how small. If I can pay in cash, I will. The transaction fees sometimes. I try to do that. Not to mention, you don't need everyone on planet Earth knowing your purchase history for everything all the time. Nothing nefarious about it. It's my information. It's not yours. Folks, we are rapidly moving towards a place, and many of you have seen this folks in the chat you see it where there are businesses now and i'm not talking about a small number i'm talking about a lot of them that won't even accept cash this is all over the place this is at lynn shasta 40 lynn c on x she talks about this dave ramsey segment about this no cash society cashless society we're moving towards i don't like this idea folks at all i actually hate this idea and I am a big supporter of small government, big supporter, small, small government.

41:18However, this no cash thing's gonna kill us going forward. Here's what a cash to society means. This is a great tweet. You should check this out yourself. This worries me a little bit. We gotta get out ahead of this now. If you're struggling with your mortgage on a particular month, you can't do an odd job to get you through. Your child can't go and help the local farmer to earn a bit of summer cash. No more cash slipped into the hands of a child. There's a good luck charm. My grandfather used to do the sales or holidays. No more money in birthday cards. No more piggy banks for your child to see and collect pocket money and learn about the value of investing and earning.

41:51No more cash for a rainy day fund or something special. No more charity collections. No more selling bits and pieces from your home at like a yard sale. Remember these? No more cash gifts from relatives. And remember this. What a cashless society does guarantees that banks have full control over every single penny you own. That's a big no for me. two thumbs down on Yelp. Every transaction you make is recorded. I don't want that. It's none of your business. All your movements and actions are traceable. They are. Where is the purchase made? Oh, look at that. Access to your money can be blocked at the click of a button when banks need clarification.

42:32You'll have no choice but to declare and be taxed on every dollar in your possession. This is the... I'm giving you the bad news up front. And let me throw one more in there with the Cashless Society. I've been warning about. Audience Archivist Judy, what was the first time I talked about this? You guys know what negative interest rates are? They are what they sound like. You put your money in a bank, you've only known interest rates to be positive. You're like, if I put my money in a savings account and I get 3%, the bank gives you 3%, typically what a per year Harvard's calculated, on your money.

43:08Well, what are negative interest rates? Oh, folks, this can happen. Negative interest rates are you put your money in a bank and it's exactly what I told you. Because the interest rate is negative, you lose 3 % per month. Who the hell would do that? The answer is a society that wants to monetize its debt, make its money worth less because it can't pay off its debt. Sounds like we're going now with our$40 trillion debt. Well, Dan, I would just pull my money out of the bank if there were negative interest rates and my money was worth less every day it was in the bank. No, you won't. because in cashless society, there's nowhere for you to put it.

43:48Politicians at all levels need to get involved here at some point. You get a cashless society, you're looking at a surveillance society and you're looking at a society where financially your money is going to be worth less every single day the minute those interest rates go negative. They don't even have to go negative. Inflation just has to wear it down and you can't get it out no matter what. that is a really really bad idea however there's a lot of good things happening too you know go to the justin go to the nbc article first about the diseases and rare diseases folks the explosion in artificial intelligence giving humanity a collective surrogate brain there's going to be some downsides associated with it no doubt however if you what's the number one rule of the Dan Bongino show?

44:36If you can stay alive for, I believe, about five years and you don't get dead, don't get dead's our number one rule. If you don't get dead for five years and you have some rare disease or even a not rare, I had Hodgkin's lymphoma, was not fun. Cancer, another two thumbs down on Yelp. I hated it. It sucked. However, my cancer was relatively treatable. I wouldn't recommend it. I went through a lot. if you can stay alive for five years, you're going to see stuff like this. Put up that NBC piece for me if you would. Folks, we are living in the golden age of medical research. Carlsbad Navy family turns to AI and search for a treatment for their daughter with a rare genetic disorder.

45:20Folks, I'm telling you, we may be less than five years away. You're going to have parents out there with these rare one in a million type diseases that are horrifying. And there's really no drug company incentive for them to develop a product that they're only going to be able to sell to maybe, I don't know, less than 100 people per state or 100 people in the entire country. The drug companies don't want to get into that. They're not going to make any money out of it. They're going to spend billions on research for no money. Folks, AI is going to be able to figure this out. It's my grandmother who say, in a jiffy, Daniel.

45:51In a jiffy. The world is about to change so dramatically thanks to the collective surrogate brain we call AI. I got another piece coming up about this in a second, how things like not just prescription drugs and medications, how the benefits of all this AI is going to filter down to you. It's not going to largely go to big business. That's crazy. Oh, stay tuned. Here's one more I want to throw in. Folks, colleges and universities, I'm sorry, like they do a lot of good things. They train our doctors, you know, good accountants, good lawyers. you know you have military colleges train military leaders i'm not knocking colleges in university i went to a college and university i went to three of them queen's college city university new york and penn state so i'm not i'm just telling you that colleges and universities because they're insulated from competition they have huge endowments and all this stuff have been basically stomping on free speech have been promoting liberal anti-american values for years because there's no competition elsewhere here's a great tweet was this uh yeah i like this account uh at inez felcher uh inez stepman on x she notes this is absolutely something that can happen colleges are in a triple bind the trump administrations is threatening their funding the population of college age people is starting what will be a sharp decline and parents have never been more skeptical the value these colleges provide for extraordinarily high tuition and for reason she notes i think the chance of significant contraction of the number of colleges as well as significant shuffle in elite rankings are more than likely again in the next five or ten years here's that five ten year period again i'm not telling you a good thing that we wipe out higher education altogether we need to train our doctors and neurosurgeons and software developers i'm just telling you that these colleges that have got by with like shut up we're doing dei we're going to about woke stuff and you're going to swallow the yippecachs shut your mouth kids and parents those days are over those days are over and i'm telling you they're never coming back not like they were because you can elect the next barack obama liberal communist president you want who could reinforce oh dei is good again in colleges the parents aren't going to pay for it You've got people like O 'Keefe, Cam Higby, Nick Shirley Putting out independent journalism You've got Adam Gillette out there The Accuracy in Media That these folks that go out there That do these hidden cameras at colleges With these administrators talking about We're going to jam wokeism down We don't really care about the law You're not going to be able to do this anymore Folks, the future, man, is so bright It's not without pitfalls.

48:42The potential, I cannot be clear, for an AI-generated cyber attack that takes us a couple months to recover from is very real. But I believe on net, we are looking at an era of human prosperity ahead that if we can just get the messaging right, we can get people to smile again. I'm not talking about ignorance about issues. I'm talking about like we don't need to be. There's like, I think of that feeling that America had, you know, in the early part of the last century and through where even though we were involved in world wars and everything else, there was still this collective pride in America.

49:16It seems like now you take these polls like everybody's like, tomorrow's going to suck. Tomorrow's going to suck. Well, what evidence do you have that that's true? This is the one part of messaging we need to get better. I strongly strongly believe for younger people listening the economy is about to explode and shame on by the way a lot of these AI people out there going on to college campuses and just crapping all over AI is going to put you all over shut up shut up Justin's a I mean he's not a young guy but young enough we joke about it but he's a you know obviously a grown man he's been with us forever you think Justin and his generation want to keep hearing this Justin's not out of work I need producers Guy and him are very creative they developed what you guys did you developed an agent right so what we used to have to do is we have ads in the show obviously live reads sometimes the ads there's grammar that's wrong there's a website there's Guy and Justin developed an agent and the agent goes through the heads and it cleans up a lot of the text and stuff like that I was like, hey guys, that's really clever.

50:23It doesn't cost Justin his job. It force multiplies his value. Why? Because I don't know how to develop the agent he did. That's the message we should be passing to our young kids. Not crapping on them all the time. You dumb idiots are going to lose your job. That's not a message, morons. The future is amazing. These kids could, they could basically sit in a home office in a beautiful house, contracting out, you know, their work to hundreds of different people, hundreds of making a quarter million dollars a year using AI agents they developed. Here's a segment on Ingram's show. This is not my segment.

51:05There's a Laura Ingram show. I love doing the show. But she asks, and this is exactly what this is about. You're going to hear the last part of Laura Ingram's intro where she's like all these economic headlines about doom and gloom and everybody's going to be out of a job and AI is going to blow up the whole world and everything's going to suck and we're all going to die. Like, that's not the real economy we live in now. And I want you to listen to the answer from a very smart guy. He's like, no, it's not. Here's the headlines you're not hearing about. Check this out. Some of these headlines, narrative reinforcing in time for the midterms.

51:42Yes, I believe so. I think the key data point that we want to be looking at is affordability. So you need to look at real wage growth. Whenever somebody's wages are growing faster than the rate of inflation, that means you have more money left at the end of the month. You have more money in every paycheck that you can use to consume. And Laura, you just mentioned the S &P 500 sales growth, revenue growth of 16 percent year over year. even if they were doing everything possible, these corporations to make as much money as possible and really boost profits, being up 16 % year over year on the revenue side of the equation, that's because they are selling stuff to people here in the U.S.

52:22They are selling to this American consumer that for some reason, some of these economic pundits want to believe that that American consumer is left for dead. That's not true at all. The American consumer is still spending. Businesses are investing heavily. We're talking about trillion dollars, trillions of dollars going into AI CapEx. So the overall, the economy is doing incredibly well. We need to focus on real wage growth first and foremost. I love the names in the chat. Eddie Wuffnuts. That may be the greatest chat name ever. It says great episode, Dan. We love hearing about the positives. Yeah, me too.

52:58I just don't want to live my life miserable. Eddie Wuffnuts. That's a classic. That may be one of the up there with the McGraw I saw a bunch of the folks When someone said oh is it Mega Chip And others Dan you're right like let's stop crapping all over our kids This freaking doom and gloom stuff Oh you kids are going to sit at home with no jobs That's just not true man That's not true I've got a friend He owns a dentistry business He incorporated some AI For customer service calls He hasn't had to get rid of any money He just doesn't have his staff answering the same question A thousand times on the phone And they love it, they can do other things That's the message we sell You don't want to be answering the phone All day answering the same question Over and over You want to be doing value added stuff Figuring out business processes Stop crapping on our kids I talked to Graham Allen about this too Treating them like they're idiots You dumb kids complain.

54:00Of course they're complaining. You got a bunch of billionaire business guys, and I love free markets, man. Congrats on your money. Oh, yeah, you stupid kids. At commencement ceremony, better get on the train. We're going to run your ass over. Shut your mouth, you moron. That's messaging? Hey, you get where this fits in the show? That's the messaging you want. We're doing great everywhere else except this topic. People hear AI They hear nothing about cancer cures All they hear about is kids You kids It reminds me of Scooby-Doo Yeah, smarmy kids Stop Stop Get some help Please, listen to Michael It's time to just stop There's good messaging out there You heard this guy do it last night Get some help That's rapidly turning into my favorite part of the show.

54:55You know me, I'll overuse it sometimes. Just like, I will, I've got to be held down and contained sometimes with this stuff. Dan's favorite memes? The data points me like, I like the lady. Oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The, which one? Oh, and then the lady with the flags? I don't do a flag. That's another good one. Oh, folks, by the way, it's not that sidetrack because I got more good news coming up. Just if you missed it just a few minutes ago, the Lindsey Clancy jury says they're deadlocked. So there's really no news, which I think none of us are surprised about. Thank you for the Muttleys in the chat.

55:33So back to regular programming until there's some decision. So here, you want some more good news? I'm going to help you. Again, business titans out there who've made your money and you're living high on the hog and good for you. I'm a free markets guy. Shut the, stop telling kids they're stupid but they suck and they're going to be out of jobs. Put up that Wall Street Journal article. Folks, the AI economy going forward. Here's the odd part about this. This is a great must-read piece you should give to your kids. Anil Gupta, you need to invest in AI. He's talking about companies here, but don't expect a return.

56:11Why would that be good news? Because folks, he notes, keep this up, the revolutionary tech will make your competitors more efficient, so you'll need to simply keep up. The premise of this piece, Snapshots and Soundbites, is all of the benefits of AI, or most of them, are going to go to the consumers, not the business people. I thought the business people told us otherwise. That's because many of them are just terrible at messaging, and it's not true. Here, AI clearly creates value. They note in the piece, or he notes in the piece. But that doesn't mean a firm or a business can always capture and retain it.

56:50If every insurer cuts the cost of handling an insurance claim by 30%, competition will eventually pass much of that gain to customers in the form of lower premiums, better service, or both. Insurers have become more productive, but no insurer earns a higher return as a result. Folks, this AI is going to make the dentist or the insurer more efficient, but it's going to make every insurer more efficient. So any insurer that tries to charge more Because they don't want those efficiencies And don't use AI Is going to be put out of business Because no one wants to pay an insurer more money The benefits are going to go to you This is something that's never spoken about They're like, oh, you know The CEO and shareholders that these companies make Yes, there's no doubt people who start businesses make money But folks, the people who started the personal computing business Bill Gates and others made a fortune too But is there any doubt the benefits have been passed down to you?

57:49I told you before, the cost of a prescription drug that was tailored towards someone with some atrophy condition that's genetic, that's one in a million. Drug companies would never spend money on that. They're not going to make any money. Now they're going to sick AI on the problem and that person's going to survive. We have to stop talking about all the doom and gloom. Oh my gosh, markets too. Free markets are bankrupting us. Put up the other Wall Street article. Are you an idiot? Who is talking? You're a moron if you're saying this. Here's data, facts. The rich world's climate distraction. Another piece in the Wall Street Journal.

58:25Forget about the climate stuff for a minute. I thought capitalism sucked. Everybody's getting poorer. The world's so terrible. Doom and gloom. Cats and dogs. Remember Ghostbusters? It's all crap.

58:38Leo, oh, you see Leo? I used to think of Leo Terrell. I'm like, what are you talking about? Leo the cavern. That is, that's the original. Here, here are numbers for your kids who may be leaning socialist. Consider extreme poverty, you know, long defined as living on less than a dollar a day. In 1950, more than half of humanity was that poor. Today, the share is 7.6%, the lowest ever recorded. Average schooling has almost tripled from 3.2 years to nearly nine. Electricity access has soared. Problems remain, but the gains have been spectacular. yes yes why is everybody so miserable There's gains.

59:23Not everybody, not you. I don't mean that in any condescending way. So my apologies. I just, folks, we got problems. We do. We'll always have problems. We're human beings. We have needs in a resource-constrained environment that not everyone's going to have a Lamborghini. Not everybody's going to have a 50 ,000-square-foot house. But if we could get everybody in a 5 ,000-square-foot house, that's a pretty big house. we'd be doing pretty good.

59:57Folks, to bookend this portion, I got Graham Allen coming up. We're doing great at messaging, but we are absolutely failing with the messaging with this younger generation of our kids. We're failing there. And we damn well better get better about showing them what the real world looks like thanks to economic freedom and liberty, AI, quantum computing, all this. and stop talking about firing them. They're not going to be able to do squat. It's not an effective message. It's a stupid one on its face. Don't be a SIAC with this stuff. These kids deserve better. And it's up to us to get it out there.

1:00:36All right, we got our comment of the day and I got Graham Allen coming up. We're going to hit him with exactly these questions. Graham's been a great voice for freedom and liberty. We always pick a comment of the day. Once a week, we give away$1 ,776. To one of our viewers who's here live for the show, you want to see the official rules, Bongino.com slash 1776. Our comment of the day today is...

1:01:01Mycrack, another great username in the chat. They've been great today. Eddie Wuffnuts, mycrack. They invited the clowns into the circus tent. They sure as hell did. And it's up to us to kick them out. Good job, mycrack. You got the greatest listener names ever. And that's how the whole McGrain thing happened. Remember Holden McGrain was the first. Is he still around? Oh, Holden. He started. I was. It was week one of live streaming. We had like 10 ,000 people. We thought it was like the greatest thing ever. Remember that? All right, quick break. We're going to get to Graham Allen. Hey, I've had that moment before.

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1:02:57Welcoming back to the show for, I don't know, third visit, fourth, who knows. It's never enough because we love him so much. Our good friend, Graham Allen, you've seen his show on Rumble. He's on right before us. He's always kind enough to rate our show with his terrific audience. He also has a book out right now. I strongly encourage you to pick up. It is an amazing book, really, really well-written called Stand, Fight, Win. You can see it on the screen. Pick it up wherever you pick up your books. Our good friend, Graham Allen. Graham, welcome back to the show. Thanks, Dan. It still is such a surreal moment.

1:03:30You know, watched your show for so many years before we became friends. So it's always an honor to be on. Thanks. Well, Graham, you know, listen, I really respect your voice. You've always been a truth teller. And you were one of the first guys out of the gate speaking out against the current thing. And you know what I'm talking about, all this conspiracy nonsense that had always infected the left that was trying to infect the right. You were out of the gate early and it wasn't necessarily a popular opinion. But I'd like to say, like, you did the right thing, not the easy thing. And I'm proud of you for doing it.

1:04:00I know you took a lot of incoming. And now, as a lot of the grift is being exposed, most of it every single day, you know, it's time for you to take an ideological victory lap because it wasn't about you. I know you know that. But it was about our movement. I mean, you and I have been through the fights, so I appreciate that. But let me get to this first because there's no one better to comment on this. Big story yesterday was one of the highest ranking military officials anywhere in the world. Dan Driscoll, secretary of the army, had resigned yesterday and stepped aside. There was some talk he was going to stay through the midterms.

1:04:33This is a hugely important position. But given your experience in the military and at the Pentagon, what are your thoughts on that? Why do you think it happened? what were some of the problems with his leadership or some of the benefits, whatever. I'd just like to get your take on it. You were an insider. Yeah, I was in the admin at the Pentagon when now former Secretary of the Army Dan Driscoll was going through confirmation and we were trying to provide head cover for him and oversight for him during confirmation and all this. no one inside the higher chain of command of the Pentagon really was excited about this person.

1:05:12At the end of the day, you know, it was, it was POTUS's decision and that's the way POTUS wanted to go. But I can tell you that there were a lot of people that were concerned about Driscoll. There were a lot of people that worried that at the end of the day, he just wasn't going to make the right decisions for the army, but specifically to go along with Secretary of War Pete Hegseth's vision led by the leadership of the commander in chief, President Trump. And you're seeing all these reports coming out of multiple clashes between former Secretary of the Army, Dan Driscoll, and Pete Hexeth. That's true because every step of the way, Driscoll went to undermine the Secretary of War, Pete Hexeth, every single step of the way.

1:05:56There were so many instances where he made readiness less ready for the army. The army is the largest branch in the entire military. Not that every secretary of their individual branches are not vastly important. Of course they are, but the army is the largest one. And this is a position of absolute magnitude. And you've got, here's the biggest thing that I'll say as an army guy myself, you've got the top guy for the army, the secretary of the army as a parting shot doing the exact opposite of what the army values actually teach us. The army values never teach, tuck your tail, run away, and then blame your boss for your own incompetence.

1:06:39It is the worst example of leadership I've seen. It's one thing to resign. It's another thing to resign and then take shots at your boss on your way out the door. It's a coward's way to do it. And it doesn't exemplify the army, doesn't exemplify the position in which he held. And I think that now we have an opportunity to get someone better in place that will better prepare our army and our warfighters the way that they should be. Well, it's a fascinating perspective. And I, you know, encourage people in the media to hear Graham out, someone who had some experience in there. So that's an interesting perspective.

1:07:17I appreciate you saying we're talking to Graham Allen, author of the new book, Stand, Fight, Win. We'll talk about that. One thing I wanted to address with you as well is you comment on politics as well, along with your experience in the military, which you comment on often. I always appreciate it. But the Democrats have a real problem right now. I was on Laura Ingram's show last night. It's the Hassan Piker problem. They want to make this problem go away. And you can always see by these couple of hallmarks, whenever the Democrats know they have a messaging problem, they'll do a couple of things.

1:07:47First, they'll do the Republicans pounce where they'll make the story about not Piker, but the Republicans reaction to Piker. You know, Republicans pounce on Hassan Piker's comments. In other words, making it like we're irrational. All we're doing is highlighting what the Democrats did. But it's an effort to distract. The second thing they'll do is you'll see Democrats practicing like the Debbie Dingell, the Democrat rep from Michigan. I don't want to talk about Piker. I'm moving on. Well, you know, that's not the way politics works. You know, the way to move on is to resign your seat. And no one will ask you about Piker.

1:08:21But you're in Michigan. You're running. They brought him in there. There's no moving on. There's none of this like I'm moving on. It's a big tent. He's one idea. Yeah, he's a really bad idea. He said some crazy things. I'm gluing this to him. I'm not letting them move on. There's not a chance. No, no, I agree. It's funny. Hasan Piker and me actually have a really long history with each other. If you look at when I first started coming up in the space and he was with his uncle at the Young Turks, his entire show would be based around taking a video that I had made that went viral back in the day.

1:08:57And that would be the only thing he focused on was was his content was going after Graham Allen content back in the day. So there's no love lost, admittedly, between me and Hassan Piker. What's interesting to me is the surge that we're seeing behind this, because him and this DSA movement are linked together. And so whether the Democrat proper party wants to admit it or not, they have a DSA problem that is now becoming the thing that they're having to get behind. You see Hillary Clinton talk about it, you know, where we're openly exploring what's going to relate to young voters. You see Chuck Schumer bending the knee.

1:09:36Now Bernie Sanders has bent the knee. And you see AOC now renewing her DSA membership for the first time in seven years. This is the way of the future for them. This DSA movement is a real thing that they're trying to do because they're telling you what they actually want to do out loud. And now you have some Democrats that are trying to separate themselves from it. They're trying to see what messaging works, what messaging is being met with the most resistance. young people 18 to 35 on the Democrat side are resonating very well with the DSA side, but the Democrats also can't abandon the 35 plus crowd at the moment.

1:10:14So they're playing these semantics back and forth to see which messaging goes and which messaging, which messaging does not. So I agree with you, Dan, we have to hold them to the fire. You've seen these great videos coming up. Hassan's even playing damage control when he's saying it's completely ludicrous for them to say that me and El Syed or whatever hate America. And then you see the compilation of him saying he hates America for five minutes straight. He hopes that we all die and our blood flows through the streets and America deserved 9-11. And he makes his little joke when he's singing a gospel choir thing against Charlie Kirk on there.

1:10:52He's saying, oh, well, you know, my new thing is now that America didn't deserve 9-11. And you hear these people boo in the crowd because they don't even want to hear it because they hate America. They believe that we deserve 9-11. These people hate us. And that's one thing I talk about in the book a lot too, is, is we have to come to grasp with the thing of, it's not that the Democrat and this DSA take over the Democrat party or against us. No, no, no, no, no. They hate us. They will applaud if something horrific happens to us. We saw that with, with, with everything over the past year. They want our way of life in America to die and give birth out of the ashes to this freaking demonic evil structure that they want to bring in under the guise of this utopian society where we don't need prisons.

1:11:40We don't need a department of war. We don't need the Senate, universal health care for all, all of these lies that cannot be done. This is the fundamental fight that we're facing right now. And we're facing it in the midterms here and just in November. We're talking to Graham Allen. He has a new book out, Stand, Fight, Win. Pick it up today. You know, Graham, one of the things I find really a little bit shocking about the Hasan Piker DSA, because it's the same problem, DSA problem, Hasan Piker problem. I hate when I don't finish my sentences. It's the worst. I'm going to tell you something. You're a broadcaster, too.

1:12:16Never cut off your sentence when you're saying the word country. Some of you will get that. I've done that a few times. Don't do it. do not do it finish your sentence the dsa piker problem i've done this a few times i think the guys know what i mean the weird part about it is for as much as i dislike liberal progressive ideology i think that's fairly obvious you as well i mean i've committed my adult life to you know defending against this nonsense they're usually smarter than this they've learned a lot through the years on how to masquerade as blue dogs while in fact being hardcore leftists. You know, when Walter Mondale ran against Reagan on a platform of like, I'm going to increase your taxes, he got routed and lost 49 states.

1:13:02He barely won his own state of Minnesota. The Democrats learned a lot from that. They started the DLC, the Democrat Leadership Council, and they tried to kind of move back to the middle a little bit. They ran a governor from Arkansas. You may have heard his name is Bill Clinton, who ran on, you know, later on the era big government is over. Now they're just voluntarily doing stupid things again. The Plattner problem up in Maine, the guy had the Nazi tattoo. They tried to cover it. They tried to get away. But at least they tried to sweep it under the rug and like, oh, no, he's not a Nazi. Whatever.

1:13:37My premise here is that they brought this on themselves. They invited Piker in. They could have renounced this during the primary. when Syed was running against McMorrow and Haley Stevens and said, we absolutely refute all of this stuff. This guy's a cancer. Instead, they pussyfooted around. Oh, I don't know. Maybe energy is bringing energy. They brought this on themselves. They used to be smarter than this. Now, I mean, not that I have any sympathy for him anyway, but now we're not letting him go. Sorry, you wanted this in your house. Now you're going to clean it up. No, I agree. But but again, I just want to stress to the American people that this is what you are voting against in November.

1:14:19You are voting against this DSA takeover, as I like to call it. This is not an anomaly. And so that's the thing that we've been pushing the most on my show is realizing why you need to get up off of your butt and go vote in the midterms. You saw our president with Trey Gowdy just the other day. Like, I need you to vote like I'm on the ballot. Our mantra in 2024 was vote like your life depends on it. This one needs to be vote like Trump's on the ballot because he is. If we allow these DSA candidates that are making it through the Democrat primaries to infiltrate into Congress and infiltrate into the Senate and infiltrate into the House, it will lead to a weaker state of us rolling into 2028.

1:15:08hey, you know this as well as I do, that if we lose the House and the Senate, and I see the polls, I see, you know, and we can only believe polls so much because they've never been able to predict Trump accurately and all this. But to the president's point, he's not on the ballot this time. He needs the American people to show up like he is. If we allow them to essentially neuter the administration for the next two years. What does that look like for us rolling into 2028? And to quote you, maybe that's what the American people need is a kick in the pants. And maybe it needs to get that bad first before they'll actually realize because Americans, we seem to have a very short memory when things are a lot better.

1:15:52And then we seem to get kicked back into gear when things get bad again. So I, along with the president, and I know you have as well, this midterm cycle is so vitally important. And this is why I'm begging the American people. The president has put out to the American people as well. You cannot treat this like a normal midterm. You cannot treat this with battle fatigue. I talk about this in the book. You have to treat every election moving forward, like your country and your life depends on it because it does, because the enemy we're seeing what they're doing. We were seeing the new iteration of all these things.

1:16:29And we have to hold them to it. We have to hold what they've actually said against them. And we have to take it into the midterms and show up at the ballot at the ballot box. Well, maybe tie this next question into your book, Stand Fight Win as well. You know, very well, midterms, you know, decades ago used to be the Republicans playground. I mean, we used to perform exceptionally well in midterms relative to presidentials, because the Democrats would typically not turn out in as large numbers as they would. That equation now, Graham, has been totally flipped. The Democrats now, through the incorporation of, yes, energy, it's negative energy, no doubt, but like Hassan Piker, who's, you know, mobilized a bunch of kids upset about the system who've turned their rage against, you know, whatever it may be, you know, capitalism, the Jews, like they did it to me.

1:17:23Like he's created a victim culture that works for a lot of people you know we have no choice but i know the book's called stand fight win but to stand fight win and and this is this is not it it's an easy message to get out there and it's easy for like we you know we go out and vote and i know my audience does but it's almost in a midterm not good enough for you to vote you have to drag at least 10 people with you hopefully more call them email them give them the voter registration site if they're not registered Go to a gun show, talk to a few people, your Second Amendment rights matter. You know, politics is a contact sport.

1:17:59You have to knock on doors. You have to get like face to face with people. The midterms will be a continued source of Republican anxiety and angst in general if we don't show up. And I know in the book you address some of these principles about how to stand, fight and win. Yeah. So, you know, it's funny. the original book, you know, you've written some, when I presented the manuscript, it was like 80 ,000 words. And so the publisher ended up cutting out like 23 ,000 words out of the book. But, but the whole premise of the book, you're in there in a positive way. Don't worry. But, but the point of the book is to talk about exactly what you just said is that we, and I took the blame on some of on myself in this, we did a bad job as truth tellers or information tellers in this illusion.

1:18:53And me and you have kind of felt the brunt of that a little bit when we've come back into the public life after going into the admin, where we created this world where the American people thought all we had to do was win the 2024 election. And then within 90 days, maybe 120 days, President Trump was going, like Jesus, was going to magically fix all of the problems within our country and there would be no more issues in the world. And so I actually started writing this book, not this past June, but June 2025. And so look at everything that has transpired from then. And it is about this fact of we have a society and a culture that has what I call it battle fatigue in the book, where we're so tired of the news cycle and the election and all of this.

1:19:44And I even said this speaking at a rally for Trump back in 2021, 2022, that I know some of you may be a little bit tired. And I know some of you maybe feel a little bit weary. And I know some of you maybe feel like it's just not worth it. But welcome to politics, because politics has become mainstream now. And admittedly, not everybody is built for a life in politics, but the vast majority of Americans are now being exposed to it and they're now seeing it. And what we can't do is allow for this doomer black pill culture to allow for this shift to happen in the midterms. Because, you know, just like I do, Dan, we need to win six, eight election cycles to really, really, really get the decay out of, you can't get decades of decay out in 18 months.

1:20:37You just can't. You can't do it. We still have confirmations, hearings that haven't happened. We still have Biden, Obama, Democrat holdovers on GS levels within our departments. We still have all of these things. The president still doesn't have complete control over his own administration right now, as far as these plants that are still there, you and Director Cash Patel did such a good job in trying to eliminate a lot of those problems. Secretary Hegstead did so much, said such a good job trying to eliminate it as well. And then you get sued by some leftist federal judge, and then you got to hire them all back and then or your stock mid track.

1:21:19A 3 % difference of a turnout in 2018 from the 2016 election between or 15 election between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. A 3 % difference of a turnout is what led to the 2018 blue wave, as they called it. And my concern is that so many people, politics has become such mainstream, and you've got these doomers and these, honestly, liars. I don't even like to call them doomers. They're just liars that are poisoning the minds of American voters and American people. My concern is what happens if we have a 5 % less turnout or a 6 % less turnout? We can't allow that to happen. And so that's why I wrote the book.

1:22:03I wrote the book for that very purpose to encourage the American voter that this country is worth fighting for. But this is a marathon. It's not a sprint. And the harsh reality, and this is a direct quote from the book, the harsh reality is this fight is never going to be over until the good Lord comes home to take us all back with him. Like, like, like that's the truth. This fight for our country and this fight for our freedom is never going to be over, which is why we have to train the next generation. When we get old and weak and we're out of the fight, they can pick up the torch behind us.

1:22:38And so as conservatives, as Republicans, as MAGA, America, whatever you want to call it, as lovers of this country, We have an obligation to, and not to be corny, but to stand, fight, win as the next generation comes up and to train them and to teach them the actual love for this country that people like me and you have, because we can't fight for forever. We're getting older. I got Greg coming in the beard and all this other stuff. My kids are driving now and everything like that. Like we are getting older and we can't just abandon the youth. We have to train them up. man i i know you know we didn't like coordinate any of this before it's just really odd you brought that up because that's how i wanted to kind of a bookend this interview there's a lot of rage and anger um on our side directed at younger voters and i really i i i i i get it i understand both sides and it's only because they want to help it's our sons and daughters like how how do you believe this stuff and you want to like shake them out of that socialism will kill you it'll starve you like you've got an iphone and a computer like this is all due to free markets and entrepreneur and i'm gonna tell you something graham you're talking about the next generation i really really believe that's the wrong approach i do i think we're failing to contextualize and socially monitor ourselves and to see these younger voters our sons and daughters as they see the world we're seeing it as we've seen it with a body of experience they don't have they haven't been along if they were alive as long as us they'd be our parents and our kids you know they've been indoctrinated from kindergarten through universities and colleges post-grad they've been indoctrinated that everything's free fat barney caring is sharing is caring i mean we have to do a better job of saying i listen i get why you would think that i understand we're not mad at you at all there's no reason to be mad at you we were kids once we i had stupid ideas when I was younger.

1:24:41But here is what, like I did a segment on this earlier. Here is what freedom, economic freedom is meant to you. The global population of people living under a dollar, as I said earlier in the show today, in 1950, used to be 50%. It's now seven. Like, where do you think that came from? Communism or socialism? It came from economic freedom and liberty. We got to do a better job with the message or we're going to lose these young men and women. And I'm telling you. It's not their fault. They've been indoctrinated with this crap. Yeah, no, no, I completely agree. In fact, my, my producer probably about two weeks ago, he started to say something on the show and it was kind of like, ah, you know, these young people, man, they've just lost their minds.

1:25:24And, and, and I wasn't getting onto him, but, but I countered back and I said, man, actually, I disagree with, we can't do what our parents did to us when we were growing up before we had social media. Ah, you young people, you don't know what you're talking about, blah, blah, blah. You can't do that because to your point, Dan, they grew up on these things. They grew up on these phones and they're seeing it. They're seeing all these things. To your point, they're seeing the value of the dollar go down. Teenagers are seeing this and they're paying attention to it. I couldn't have even told you who the governor was when I was 17 years old.

1:25:59But now I guarantee you the kids now can. They see all of this going on and they see these people like Piker and El-Sayed and Mom Donnie and AOC talking about, hey, there's a problem with the taxes. There's a problem with the health insurance, all of this. My kids the other day, I'm so proud of my boys and I won't get on too much of a tangent, I promise. They're working. They're working. And I'm so proud of them. 15, 14 year old boys, they're working and they're getting their paychecks for the first time ever. They're seeing like, oh crap. Okay. So I work this long and I get this much money and they're starting to see it.

1:26:33And one of the things they came up to me and they said, dad, I'm never going to be able to afford anything because if this is what I make for working my butt off all the time, like I see how much houses are going for or how much rent costs and all of these things, I'm never going to be able to afford any of this. Now they don't understand as you get older and more experienced, you make more money and blah, blah, blah, but you got to earn it. You don't just come out of college making six figures, but these are teenagers that are saying these things my teenagers upon everything else so what are the teenagers that don't have a dad that's involved in politics that's involved in this world what are they thinking and who are they talking to probably no one they're probably tuning in to your nick fuentes and your aocs and all of these people you know and all of this stuff like like this is what they're seeing they're inundated with it every single day and so we as the current adults have to adjust our, our lane of focus and you can't just ignore them.

1:27:29You have to, you have to acknowledge what they're saying and you got to get them with actual facts. You can't just brush off the younger generation anymore because they're voting. They're voting. You shouldn't brush them off anyway, but now they're showing up in numbers that we've never seen before. And that is on us as the current generation to engage, train, and equip our younger generation and our youth to come and take our place one day. And that's the thing that I think we miss a lot. Graham, I really appreciate you coming on and congratulations on the new book. It's called Stand, Fight, Win, Pick It Up wherever you get your books.

1:28:08Recommended. Graham's a good man. Thanks also for rating the show every day. People tune into his show on Rumble, rumble.com. You can look for Graham Allen. You'll see his show right there. Graham, thanks so much. Thanks for your service to the country too. We really appreciate it. We'll see you back here soon. Thank you for having me, Dan. You got it. Folks, one of our favorite guests. Be sure to check out Sean Farris' new show every day at 1 p.m. Eastern time, rumble.com slash Sean with an H. Also check out Haley at noon, rumble.com slash Haley and Vince every morning at 8 a.m. rumble.com slash Vince.

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