Maduro Discovers Freedom In Handcuffs | Episode 197

26:17President Trump on greasy Gavin Newsom. He says this. California under Governor Gavin Newsom is more corrupt than Minnesota, if that's even possible. Three question marks. The fraud investigation of California has begun. Thank you for your attention to this matter. President Donald J. Trump. Oh, but no, the president's not allowed to tell the Justice Department to investigate things like this. Yeah, you're not in any way familiar with Article two of the Constitution. Yes, he is. He's in charge of the United States Department of Justice. If he detects criminality, he can order the Justice Department to investigate it.

26:58That's his right as the duly elected president of the United States. You only vote for that guy, him and the vice president of the United States. Those are the two. He's in charge. and he's ordered an investigation into the state of California. Good, good. And cut them off and please, for the love of God, impose consequences. Impose real consequences. I'm talking handcuffs, orange jumpsuits, jail time for people, not just the people who committed this fraud, but the people who enabled it to advance their political careers. I mean, the reality is in Minnesota, for instance, Not only is Tim Walz the governor and he's been taking money from these fraudulent operations, Ilhan Omar taking money from these fraudulent operations.

27:42But also you got the attorney general of the state, Keith Ellison. You know, Keith Ellison is caught on tape. Keith Ellison, the attorney general, was caught on tape. Talking to his donors who were a part of fraud convictions in the food scam, telling them that he would protect them. This is all on tape. There's audio of all of this. Sounds like evidence to me and a predicate for imposing legal consequences on people like Keith Ellison and anybody else who's committed this kind of crime against the American people. All right, coming up, Michael Knowles is going to join us. I want to ask him about the ongoing, well, pattern of trans violence in the country.

28:29Did you see that J.D. Vance's house in Ohio was just attacked by another transgender lunatic? How much of this, I mean, at what point do we have a big national conversation about trans violence? You know, how often do we see schools being attacked by people who have been overtaken by this demonic ideology? We just saw a guy called Charlie Kirk, whose boyfriend was some sort of furry trans something. again this just keeps happening are we going to put a stop to it are we going to actually like you know speaking of being empathetic and and being compassionate are we actually going to intervene or are we just going to keep affirming delusions until they manifest themselves in the most violent and destructive possible ways i'll talk to michael knowles in a minute about that can't wait to do that but first our great sponsors keep this program going um that includes brick house nutrition they're phenomenal phenomenal you know this time of year a lot of people are really thinking clearly about their health and sincerely, which is great.

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32:14Good to see you. Merry Christmas. Happy January 6th, which Christians call the Feast of the Epiphany and liberals call the worst day in the history of this or any republic. So however you celebrate, you know, happy, happy day. It is. Yes. No, I was I started the show by saying it's one of the high holy days of the left for sure, because, you know, they're hanging their covid masks all over their houses. OK, so let's let's talk about this attack on J.D. Vance's home. This is what I'm interested in in your thoughts on this, because because we just got news yesterday that J.D. Vance, although he wasn't at his house in Ohio, it is protected by the Secret Service.

32:50And some lunatic who has, you know, the characteristic serial killer eyes went to the house with a hammer, smashed a Secret Service vehicle, then walked up to the windows of the house and began smashing the windows. And finally, I guess the sleepy Secret Service agents who were tasked with defending the property finally showed up, took him into custody. Here's the update on this. The guy calls himself Julia. He's transgender. And his parents are both pediatricians who happen to be maxed out Democrat donors. Are you surprised by any of this, Michael Knowles? Vince, it's always the ones you most expect.

33:27I think that's a good rule of thumb to live by. It's always the ones you most expect. And so, you know, we were talking about a month or so ago before Christmas about trans violence, which really came to the public for with the assassination of Charlie Kirk and the subsequent justification and celebration on the left and more left-wing violence since then. But there do seem to be some common themes. Violence is much more likely to be justified and perpetrated by ideological leftists than by the right. It's not even close. Even the left-wing outlets like the Atlantic are admitting that now. Violence is much more likely to be carried out by people who have psychological problems, especially including transgenderism, than people who are normal and who accept who they are.

34:10That's undeniable at this point as well. And so then the only question becomes, are we going to do anything about it? 20 years ago, this would not have been a controversial point at all. Yeah, if a guy doesn't know what his sex is, or if he thinks he's the opposite sex, he's probably got a skewed perception of the world, and he's probably more likely to behave in psychotic ways. This is the premise of like every horror movie ever. This is Psycho. This is Silence of the Lambs. This is Hannibal Lecter and all the rest of it. So we all understood that. And now we have just willfully denied the reality that we've always kind of known.

34:46The question for us now, and frankly, this gets into the Maduro raid. This gets into the shift in foreign policy. This gets into the way we're talking about immigration. To me, the big political shift is, are we going to acknowledge reality and do something about it? Or are we going to keep playing pretend on our domestic fantasies, our sexual fantasies, and our foreign policy fantasies? I think reality is winning right now, happily. But that's the big shift. I agree with you. I think reality is winning. I think the right, as much as there's so many people who are pessimistic on the right for any number of reasons, should acknowledge the victories that we've had, meaningful ones, when it comes to issues like the transgender delusions or or the war on cops or borders or any of these other big issues.

35:28We've had a lot of victories, definitely. But the problem we continue to have is we have increasingly thin margins, for instance, in the House. We're dealing with the Democrats who continue to have way too much power in this country. And the Democrats are operating under a completely incoherent worldview. Everything about it is incoherent. They'll condemn Americans for living on stolen land. And then when we go back and try and reclaim American energy companies in Venezuela, they pretend it's Venezuelan. So, I mean, it's like there's no coherence to this. They tell you that January 6th, grandmas waving flags inside the Capitol building are evil villains.

36:02But anyone who tries to convince someone they were born in the wrong body is just doing something totally normal. So how do we have debates or anything approaching improvement when you've got an entire political party dedicated to that poison? Well, I think we should recognize, yes, apparently there is no cohesion here between, say, the LGBT crowd and the pro-Hamas crowd or whatever, whether we're talking about Venezuela and the Lakota Sioux, same principle. But there is, at a very deep level, a simple coherence, which is they all have a common enemy. And the common enemy is America. The common enemy is the church.

36:42The common enemy is the West, generally. That's it. That's the common enemy. And so that's how you're going to get Greta Thunberg marching around in a Palestinian keffia. And it kind of makes sense because they don't agree with each other on a lot, but they do have a common enemy. And so I think we need to think about politics in that kind of practical way as well. In these periods where you have a unified government, as we do right now on the right, there's often a lot of infighting. And there's more infighting on the right because we're more ideologically diverse than the left, which is progressives, super progressives, and John Fetterman.

37:13Otherwise, they're pretty much all on the same team. And we less tyrannically enforce these views. I mean, we actually have more spirited debates, whereas the left will primary you into non-existence if you dare say that securing the border is good. Yes, unlike in America broadly, when it comes to ideological coalitions, diversity actually is our strength. And we have benefited from that because it allows us to react to changing circumstances. But it does mean that at the end of the day, when we're going to the ballot box, when we're bringing ballot watchers to make sure there's no fraud, We've seen a lot of fraud recently.

37:45When that happens, we do need to unify. You know, politics is about results. It's about actually getting things done in a real community. And this is where we could learn a lot from Mr. Cocaine Mitch McConnell, even though he's not so popular on the right right now. He made at least one very good observation, which is the winners make laws and the losers go home. And so all the debates and the introspection can all be very, very good. But we do have to keep our eyes on the prize because if we lose, especially if we lose unified government eventually, they are going to ship us to gulags. They're going to treat us much worse than Trump treated Maduro.

38:20Amen. I totally agree with you. And by the way, there are seasons for debates. So usually in the wake of an election, that's the perfect time to have that sort of intra-party debate about what the future holds. And then you saddle up on some of those scores and then you move on to unity as you head towards an election because in the end, the left is playing for keeps, as you point out. It's a power scenario for them. And we should recognize it in the same way, which is we need power because we're trying to restore decency, law and order to our country. Yes, you know, look, it's great to write white papers.

38:52It's great to chat. It's great to do podcasts and interviews and all the rest. That all plays a role in the political order. But when election time comes around, we all need to keep our priorities in order. You know, politics is the art of the possible. It's the art of inclusion, the art of the second best, it's sometimes called. And so I think we conservatives need to keep that in mind. And there's no substitute for victory. And I think this is what the Venezuela operation shows you, is that the right, at least in the chattering class, had been mired in this kind of civil war. And a lot of it was personal and vying for position.

39:25And then what happens? Trump sends in 150 airplanes and abducts the illegitimate leader of this foreign nation, the socialist country, in 88 minutes from arrival at the palace to being in international waters. and it shows America on the move, making moves on immigration, on energy, on fighting our geopolitical adversaries. And it's just awesome. And now you see virtually every conservative is backing that, you know? And so I think victory goes a long way. And I think this might have juiced us for the midterms. Yes, and also President Trump is kind of, he's hitting the sweet spot. It's amazing.

40:02Like, for instance, I mean, even like, if you go back to like the Iran operation, Operation Midnight Hammer, coming out of the wake of that, it seemed like people who thought that we should detach from Israel and people who think we should be more sincerely involved in Israel's politics, like everyone was sort of kind of satisfied by the way President Trump handled that. Yeah, were there debates around it? Sure, but in the end, I think people were mostly kind of satisfied no matter where they fall on that question, which is like how entangled should we be with Israel? The other thing is like with Venezuela, you know, I think back to like, we're pretty well trained now by America's foreign policy failures to be cynical about regime change operations, which I think is well earned.

40:40Like, I do think that's a good instinct for us to be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what comes next? That's a perfectly good instinct to have as a voter. But I think what President Trump has done is he's learned from, like, the lessons, for instance, in Afghanistan. Remember, they go into Afghanistan. The original operation was just kill the bad guys and get out. That was one of the – that was what they wanted to do originally. And then it became a big nation-building exercise. And then we go into Iraq on false pretenses. And then we throw out Saddam. And then we do nation-building there. It's just failure after failure, tribal warfare, tribal warfare.

41:08Venezuela, what President Trump has done is he's done a quick strike. He grabbed an illegitimate occupier that the people detested and didn't feel they didn't vote for him. He just stole power. And then he promised that he's going to give them wealth from the oil that that is being derived from underneath their territory. and subsequently, you think about it, it's a country with a unified culture and a history of democratic institutions. I mean, we are being dealt a pretty good hand relatively and President Trump has figured out how do you hit the sweet spot without staying there forever and creating another quagmire for the country?

41:41Yeah, the sweet spot is a great way to think about it. The via media or Aristotle says that prudence is the chief political virtue. So here, you really pacify all of the factions on the right. The people who want to restrain foreign policy or only want to stick to our neighborhood, well, Venezuela's in our neighborhood. The Monroe Doctrine has been American foreign policy for over 200 years. The more neocon, aggressive foreign policy people on the right, well, they want to weaken Iran. They want to weaken China. They want to weaken Russia. Guess what? Removing Maduro in Venezuela achieves that as well.

42:15The foreign policy realists who only want to intervene when there are material interests for the United States at stake here. Yeah, Maduro and Chavez stole our property. Energy is a real material stake. The fact that Venezuela's failures and this failure of the socialist system there had been sending so many migrants across the border illegally. That's a real material interest we have. The drugs, not to forget the drugs that were pouring across the border from Venezuela, which was effectively being run by a cartel. All of that, really, this operation has something for everybody. He struck this sweet spot with prudence.

42:51And it reminds us, too, that politics is much more an art than a science. It's a practical science rather than a pure science. Yes, and it repels China's influence in our hemisphere. So this is one of the biggest pieces of this. I think often there's a lot of the conversation is like, well, we don't want to get into any new wars. Okay, fine. But should we not defend ourselves against one that's currently being waged against us? So China is clearly undertaking a lot of adversarial actions against the United States, including filling our country with fentanyl, that it ultimately comes from China.

43:23It's poison that's killing over 100 ,000 Americans. And then they're buying illicit oil from Venezuela in contravention of our embargo on that oil. So how about no? How about we stop that from happening? And so China, Cuba, Iran, Russia, and certainly, obviously, the communists in Venezuela are all reeling now that the United States is actually asserting itself and defending itself. It's the same rationale, by the way, that President Trump used in the trade war, which is, no, no, no, I'm not starting a trade war. I want to end one against the United States. Yeah, this is Trump's art of the deal in which he focuses on a lot, and I think justifiably so.

44:01Because no one, other than the kookiest people or people who hate our country, no one doesn't want to see our adversaries weakened, right? No one wants to embolden our adversaries. The reason that some of us who want a more restrained foreign policy are skeptical of wars in the Middle East is because we think we're not that good at waging them. And they're kind of far flung and we're ignoring our own territories and we're ignoring more urgent problems. But we still would like to see our adversaries weakened. And so if Trump can go in in this extremely efficient way, I mean historically efficient way, and weaken China by cutting off their oil, and weaken Iran, which has always had one foot in the – since the revolution has had one foot in the international order, one foot outside of it.

44:41weaken Russia, which is already occupied in Ukraine. Well, that actually probably will conduce to a more restrained foreign policy generally because it means that now China is probably less likely to get aggressive in the South China Sea. It means that Iran is probably less likely to get aggressive with American allies in the Middle East. It means that, well, Russia's already bogged down anyway. But what it means is the cascading downstream effects can be very good, can offer something for everybody. You just have to know how to get a good deal and Trump knows how to get a good deal. There's no denying it.

45:13So there's another reaction that I've seen to this that I kind of am sympathetic to. I definitely am, which is domestically. OK, so I definitely think that this is in America's interest, what he did in Venezuela. I love it. I love that Maduro is standing trial and is confused by the rights he's being afforded in a New York City courtroom right now. I love all that. But simultaneously, maybe not Delta Force, but close. I want to see Delta Force go after Tim Walz. I want to see I want to see like domestic operations. You know, again, we have their American citizens. We afford them a little bit more, you know, courtesy perhaps, but not much more because because 20 billion dollars in fraud against the American people.

45:51And you just let it happen. You knew it was happening. You let it happen. Keith Ellison caught on tape saying that he's going to cover up for Somalis to try and hassle people who were looking into them. I mean, you get you get kind of these never ending horribles. And there is, I think, a reasonable desire among the Trump voting coalition to see more aggressive action to take them down. What do you make of that? There is a hard political reality to this, which I know frustrates the White House, which is that it is in many ways easier to go in and depose the leader of a foreign country than it is to deport a single illegal alien.

46:29It is, in other words, easier for the president as commander in chief of the military to do basically whatever he wants around the world than it is to deal with domestic politics, which has all of these extra rules and just kind of corrupt machine bureaucratic politics associated with it. So I'm impressed by what the president has done. I know there's a lot of attacks on Trump, obviously from the left, but even from the more cynical factions of the right. And they say the economy is not doing that well. The economy is doing great. GDP is way outperforming expectations. that all the economists were wrong about the tariffs.

47:01Rents have fallen four months in a row. Why are the rents falling? Because of the mass migration. Some people are saying mass migration isn't happening. It is. The Trump administration was able to deport effectively 2 million people, maybe even a little bit more in the first year. So it's good. People just don't feel satisfied given the scope of the problem, given the fact that there are at least 16 million illegal aliens in the country, given the fact that prices rose so much under Joe Biden because of inflation. I get it, yes. But you've got to go to war with the army you've got, domestically as well as politically.

47:32The fact that DHS was able to train up forces for mass deportations that have not taken place in decades. They just didn't even have that competency anymore. It's impressive. But I hope that the White House is aware of this political risk because there's no excuse at the ballot box, no matter how hard it is. You've got to show those results at home. And even more so, you have to persuade people of the reality of the results that maybe you've already shown. Well, this gets back to what you were just talking about a moment ago in a different context, which is like, you know, as you mentioned, the chattering class and the debates outside of the White House, outside of Washington.

48:08But if there's ever been a time to have a debate between the White House and Congress, congressional Republicans, it's yesterday. They mean that President Trump is being very courteous to John Thune and Speaker Johnson because the impediment to what you and I are talking about, which is arresting bad guys in our own country. It turns out is the United States Congress. It is Republicans. The blue slip, which I won't I won't go into every detail, but in the Senate is blocking us from having quality judges and U.S. attorneys. and president trump i think is being way too nice to the senate right now about that nightmare that's keeping us from getting what we need as a country yes especially the senate because look there are some great senators listen some of my closest friends are senators okay there's some good ones there but generally speaking the senate is a problem and they don't want to do anything when it comes to the house i have the utmost sympathy for mike johnson i love mike johnson because he has the worst job in politics.

49:09I would much rather be the dog catcher in Palookaville than be the Speaker of the House of Representatives. It's hurting cats. He's got a two-vote margin as of today. Marjorie Taylor Greene just left and a congressman just died. A Republican congressman in California just died. They just came out this morning. So now we're down to a two-vote. It's actually the first time hearing of it. I feel like Trump with Ruth Bader Ginsburg. That's very sad politically and also for his family. It was Congressman Doug LaMalfa has died at the age of 65. No cause of death has been given yet. They say he died suddenly.

49:41And that means we dropped a 218 to 213. Republicans can only lose two votes in anything here or else they lose. So you're right. Mike Johnson's got a difficult hand he's dealing with. But the reason I'm concerned about Mike Johnson, the one thing that stands out to me that I don't think people bring up enough is it requires both Mike Johnson and John Thune to put the Congress into a full recess to allow Trump to do recess appointments. and neither of those men have allowed that to happen and they could if they wanted to. And it drives me nuts that they haven't because it suggests that they're not completely familiar with what time it is.

50:16And there is a fear heading into the midterm elections. One, it's gonna be harder to wrangle these people anyway, the ones who are up for reelection. So the entire house and members of the Senate. But this also shows you why the president is taking so many executive actions. You know, I know there are some principled ideologues on the right who aren't a big fan of executive orders and executive actions. And look, I wish that some of these had, you know, more teeth and longer legs. But what's the president supposed to do? You know, if Congress has over many decades delegated away a lot of its power and now just doesn't even want to flex its muscles, maybe because it can't.

50:52Well, someone's got to do something and that's going to be the president. And the libs can whine about no king's protests all day. But I'll take what I can get coming out of the White House. Yeah. All right. Well, Michael Knowles, I've taken so much of your time already. I always appreciate our conversations. I get a lot out of them. Appreciate you and look forward to talking again soon, sir. Good to see you, sir. Happy January 6th. Yes, and Merry Christmas. Thanks, Michael. See you. There he is. Michael Knowles, always good to have him stop by. Gets me thinking about a lot of stuff. But yeah, that is the news this morning.

51:21Congressman Doug LaMalfa has died suddenly at the age of 65, according to Republican leadership, meaning we are in a in very, very tight territory right now. Some vacancies and those things need to be resolved. But it's all the more reason that Republicans need to heed the message that you and I are sending, which is like, hey, do exactly what your voters sent you there to do. And that includes accountability in our own our own country. You know, I we mentioned in my conversation with with Michael, talk about the radical left and how violent and crazy they are. That has certainly been true in the left's threats against ICE agents over the course of the last year.

52:02I don't know if you know any lefties in your life or if you've talked to anybody recently who is even a mild disposition towards the things that they hear in the legacy press. But have you noticed how poorly these people treat ICE? The poor reputation that they impugn on ICE? They treat ICE like they're Nazi brown shirts. They treat the men and women of immigration enforcement, who are doing nothing but enforcing our laws, nothing but enforcing our laws, and doing it with utter decency and respect for the Constitution. They're treating them like they're Nazis. And the obvious second-order effects of that has been a massive increase in threats and assaults and assassination attempts on ICE agents.

52:49That's just true. and to help along these vile lies. There are elements of corporate America, business America, who have helped push this garbage along. And that includes this week a Minneapolis Hilton franchise, which decided that it would stop ICE agents from having a place to sleep at night in Minneapolis. No, you can't stay here, they said. this is a crazy saga one that has hilton the the parent company the friend the the the big banner company hilton scrambling right now to try and mitigate the consequences of being associated with this here's what we got this is dhs yesterday they posted some screenshots of email traffic and they wrote no room at the inn speaking of christmas hilton hotels has launched a coordinated campaign in Minneapolis to refuse service to DHS law enforcement.

53:52When officers attempted to book rooms using official government emails and rates, Hilton Hotels maliciously canceled their reservations. This is unacceptable. Why is Hilton Hotels siding with murderers and rapists to deliberately undermine and impede DHS law enforcement from their mission to enforce our nation's immigration laws. Okay, to be clear, this was posted at 1227 p.m. yesterday afternoon. So they basically, they're getting rejected from this one hotel because they're ICE agents, because they're DHS. And DHS has released this. God bless them for sharing this in public. All right, so we get that.

54:33Immediately after that, we begin getting statements from Hilton at the national level. Hilton claims that they're addressing this. Oh, we're addressing it. And we're investigating, they said. And Bill Malugian got the statement. Take a look here. Hilton Hotel serves as welcoming places for all. This hotel is independently owned and operated, and the actions referenced are not reflective of Hilton values. We're investigating this matter with the individual hotel and can confirm that Hilton works with governments, law enforcement, and community leaders around the world to ensure our properties are open and inviting to everyone.

55:07What followed after that was another statement from the owner of the hotel. Now, this is the specific owner of the hotel is using the Hilton franchise name. It's called Ever Peak Hospitality. And Ever Peak said, oh, we're welcoming to all. This move was totally inconsistent. Our policy is being welcoming to all. We're in touch with the guests to ensure that they're accommodated. We don't discriminate against any individuals or agencies. We apologize to those impacted. So as of that statement yesterday, you start to think, okay, well, maybe everything is improving. I don't know. Trisha McLaughlin over at DHS, you know her, the spokesman over there.

55:42She said, you know, it's funny. We haven't heard anything from them. So I don't know what they're talking about. And then to clear things up last night, the great Nick Sorter decided, how about this? How about I just go to the hotel and I'll pretend to be DHS. I'll try and book 10 rooms and see what happens. Well, here's what happened. Watch Nick. Is it, uh, what agency is it for? Uh, using the government. It'd be a department of Homeland Security. Uh, so we're not accepting people from immigration, ICE agents, DHS, into our property. It's just the part management ownership. Okay, I thought that changed today.

56:20Was that? Uh, I just talked to my, um, the owner of the building. Uh-huh. And, uh, he didn't say there hasn't been any changes. So, um... Yeah, it's just policy, you know. Yeah, I mean, that's not your fault. Totally get that. So they actually said that was... I mean, honestly, this is the most convenient location. Right. So they told you no, that there's no... Yeah, no immigration. Well, DHS isn't all immigration. Yeah. Yeah. OK, so. So even with the thing that they said earlier, they mentioned that. There was a statement that they put out, you know, saying that they were that they accept everybody.

57:11They didn't. Yeah, the guy even is like, I just talked to the owner. Nothing's changed. No, we're not letting DHS stay here. Now, again, that is in the service of demonizing ICE, treating ICE like they're doing something morally depraved when in fact they're the ones who are standing up for decency for law and order for restoring American communities for making them safer the left has so demonized them it's unbelievable it is demonic the way they've treated immigration and customs enforcement but I have some good news in this story and we'll see if it holds but here's the update from Hilton now remember this all started early yesterday afternoon and we get an update 7 54 a.m.

57:49this morning this is an official statement now from Hilton at the national level statement from Hilton on a recent video on a recent video come on this is the most corporate speak ever how about Nick Sorter's video they didn't they don't even refer to Nick but okay on a recent video Nick should call all of his videos a recent video that should be his whole series going forward the independent hotel owner had assured us that they had fixed this problem and published a message confirming this. A recent video clearly raises concerns they are not meeting our standards and values. As such, we are taking immediate action to remove this hotel from our systems.

58:31Hilton is and has always been a welcoming place for all. We are also engaging with all of our franchisees to reinforce the standards we hold them to across our system to help ensure this does not happen again.

58:49Ladies and gentlemen, what I just read is a sign of your power. What I just read is a sign that corporate America at all of its levels is aware that we will mobilize if they screw us over. Hilton in the course of just over what 15 16 hours has decided to remove this hotel entirely from the Hilton brand of hotels they're no longer allowed to be a franchise of Hilton they can go on they could be you know Joe's Hotel or whatever else but Hilton's removed them they don't want the Bud Light treatment they don't want the Cracker Barrel fiasco they would just like to be a hotel. That's what they're going for.

59:37They said they just want to be welcoming to all, including ice, and they've notified every hotel that calls themselves a Hilton franchise that, yeah, we welcome ice here. That's a good outcome. Keep up the pressure. Thank you to Nick Sorter for sending a camera over there. Hilton pulled the right move here. We'll see if it holds, by the way. It's not over till it's over. It's never over till it's over. But today, this show is over. It's great to be with you today as always. You can watch The Vince Show. That's the big national radio show coming up today. That's 12 to 3 Eastern time. Get your local listings at thevinceshow.com or watch us on Rumble, rumble.com slash Vince.

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