OBAMA: Is It Treason Then? | Episode 91

27:02Dan Bongino:She may decide she wants to go home anyway. Nope, I don't feel like it. I want to go home. Lisa Murkowski will probably go home to Alaska anyway. I don't care. I'm going home. Vote without me. And one after the other. I talked to one source this week who said that Chuck Grassley is only so biologically capable of doing his job. He's an elderly man. Are we going to keep him at work seven days a week to vote on confirmations? Now, my preference is, yeah, if you're a U.S. senator, you should be there doing it. But the word is like, what if we kill him? What if he dies as a result of all of that work?

27:36Dan Bongino:Well, I don't want that to happen, but I do want him to confirm all of these important positions, these U.S. attorneys. Our country depends on it. Time is of the essence. So the chat is detecting where I think we should go next. The president is being generous with the Senate here, saying, do your job. Stay. Do your job. I respect you as a branch of government. Here's what I want to see them do, because I don't know if we have any more options here. I want to see them go into recess. I want the United States Senate to go into recess as soon as possible. And the reason for that is because the president can do this without them.

28:18Dan Bongino:In our Constitution, the founders envisioned that there was going to be times when Congress wasn't in the nation's capital. And for obvious reasons, they have to go home to their home districts. And especially back in the day, pre-air conditioning, the August recess meant that you could escape to cooler climates and get out of the actual swamp. Kind of the point. But if Congress isn't in town, how does the president do the job if it would require congressional intervention back in the days that preceded the Internet? Well, the answer to that is recess appointments. The president of the United States has a power called a recess appointment, where when Congress is in recess, he can actually name someone to a Senate confirmed position.

29:07Dan Bongino:that person can be recess appointed and stay there for two full years, two full years without the Senate being involved at all, other than to be on recess. If the president wants to get this done now, which of course he does, and if the Senate has any inclination to help him, which they should, they should go into a full-blown recess. Now here's one of the pieces about recess that nobody tells you, or very few do. Even when they do go into recess, they don't technically go into recess. There's a trick in Washington. They claim they're in recess, but they stay in what's called a pro forma session.

29:45Dan Bongino:Every three days, they smack the gavel and they claim that the Senate is still doing some sort of business. That tactic is only designed to prevent the president of the United States from using the recess appointment. That's it. It's meant to keep the Senate in a phony state of business so that the president can't exercise a constitutional power that's afforded to him. Republicans, John Thune, you should not play that game. You should not even be bothering with that game. Go home, get the vacation everybody wants. They claim it's the August recesses so they can hang out with their constituents and find out what's going on.

30:24Dan Bongino:I don't really believe them. I think it's mostly just vacation time. But whatever. You want to go on vacation? You want to go sip a margarita? You want to go hang out on the beach? do it, but go into a full-blown recess of the United States Senate. Let the president get his picks through, because if we want law and order in this country, we need prosecutors with cojones who can actually go after criminals to include criminals at the highest levels of the government in the past, including in the Obama administration. This has to be done.

30:56Dan Bongino:So that's really key here. One last thing on Senate confirmations that not a lot of people know about. I mentioned Bill Assaley, the U.S. attorney from the Central District of California. He was talking this week with Glenn Beck about this. And this is such a resonant point I need you to know about. Blue slips. Blue slips. It's such a stupid thing, but the United States Senate has it. Here's the tradition in the Senate. If your home state senator doesn't want a U.S. attorney in their state, a specific person, they can veto them. Yes, that's right. That's the power that each of these senators have.

31:36Dan Bongino:So give you the perfect example here. California has two senators, both Democrats. One of them, Adam Schiff. The other, up until recently, nobody knew who he was, Alex Padilla. So we got Adam Schiff and Alex Padilla, who are the senators from California. They have veto power over any federal appointments among the judiciary and the U.S. attorneys. It's called a blue slip. So Adam Schiff and Alex Padilla can say, we don't want Bill Assaylee to be the full-time U.S. attorney in the Central District of California. And the way it works right now in the Senate is, they say, okay, then he's not going to be the guy.

32:11Dan Bongino:That is insane. It's totally bonkers that that's the process. And it is. And what it means is that in blue states like California, good people can't get that job full-time. It means that in blue states like New York, Good people can't get that job full time. Notice what's happening with Alina Habba right now. It's a huge battle just to pick a good U.S. attorney to hold that seat. The Trump administration wants Alina Habba there. Judges are right now fighting to stop that from happening. This can all be settled if the Senate would just confirm her, if the Senate would go into recess and the president can make a recess appointment.

32:50Dan Bongino:There are ways to conquer this. but I am telling you that you need to prepare for the news cycle that's going to ensue in the next few weeks. We are hurtling towards chaos on the prosecution question. And if you like the state of the economy, I do. And if you like the state of our immigration system, how it's improving so much better, how the border's all secure, I do. I like all of that. And if you're looking for the next step, which is accountability for the people who are hurting our country, whether they're street criminals all the way up to White House criminals, The only way you get that is if you have prosecutors in place.

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36:21Dan Bongino:See terms for details at pocket hose.com. Pocket hose. Yes, indeed. In the chat, Rainforest says more important than having prosecutors in place is ending the judicial coup. Rogue judges will just dismiss the cases with prejudice, giving the double jeopardy protection. Yeah, it's a good point, Rainforest, which is why it's so important for us to see these cases brought in the correct districts. This is why I've been talking about how this can't come to New York. I mean, sorry, well, New York for sure, but it also can't come to Washington, D.C. because this is just a rigged judicial process, a rigged jury process, which is not designed in order to reach a fair outcome.

37:02Dan Bongino:It's designed to reach an unfair outcome on behalf of Democrats. You can't have that. So it would be far better if you're going to bring these prosecutions to go to someplace like Florida. Go to Florida. And the way you have to do that is demonstrate that some element of the crime was committed there, bring the case in Florida, and then we're off to the races. So yeah, no, stopping the judicial coup is a huge, huge piece of this. Tactical prosecutions in tactical districts are the only way that you're going to conquer that problem. So that matters a great deal. Keep your eyes open for that. All right.

37:36Dan Bongino:Joining me right now from the great state of Texas, Congressman Brandon Gill is here on the program. Congressman Gill, thanks so much for joining me today. Appreciate you. Yeah, thanks for having me. OK, you've had a lot of busyness going on. I want to ask you about first and foremost about what's going on looking back at the Obama administration right now and the way that these guys really turned the weapons of government against the American people for voting for President Trump in the first place. I know you've been paying special attention to the fact that James Comey and John Brennan are under investigation reportedly right now for forcing a lie into the intelligence community assessment that they colluded to put the Steele dossier into this thing.

38:23Dan Bongino:What should we know about this story? Yeah, you know, it's first of all, thanks for having me on the show. But it's amazing whenever you get people who are committed to the truth, like Tulsi Gabbard in Washington, who want to expose what happened over the past eight or 10 years. And she's been releasing classified documents over the past few days. We're still going through them. There's a whole lot of information there, new information that came out this morning. But here's the gist of it, is that we knew, we've known for a little while, that the Russia collusion hoax was just that. It was a hoax.

38:57It was a lie about President Trump, intended to slander him, to undermine his presidency, to thwart his agenda and stop him from doing what voters elected him to do. Now what we're finding out is that the intelligence community, Clapper and Comey and others, knew that it was a lie, that they originally had intelligence, which said from their community that President Trump did not in fact collude with Russia, that Russia was not intending and did not have the ability to influence U.S. elections. They had that information. They did not release it. Instead, they manufactured new information, suggesting otherwise, based on the Steele dossier and other hoaxes, knowing that.

39:44And then they leaked that information to the press, and then it went on from there. What we're learning now is that Obama directed them to get new information, and then it went out into the public. Like, this is one of the biggest scandals in American history. Again, we're still going through this. There's a lot of information that we've got to get. But this was a manufactured attempt, a manufactured coup to undermine a democratically elected president and effectively stop him from implementing his agenda.

40:20Dan Bongino:Yeah, I know it's completely outrageous. And the more that I've thought about it, the more that I realized, like what Tulsi Gabbard revealed on Friday to begin with is so completely shocking. The fact that the the the Obama team didn't publish the presidential daily brief was not designed to hide some sort of detail behind closed doors. The rest of us don't get to receive the presidential daily brief. The reason they didn't do it is because Trump was receiving it. Trump was the elected president of the United States at that point. They didn't want the Trump team to see that Russia did not rig the election.

40:57Dan Bongino:Congressman. No, that that is exactly right. And, you know, this is one of those things that we all knew was a hoax. We had gotten enough information. We realized the Steele dossier was fake, that it was based on politic politicized intelligence. But now we're learning more and more just how deep the deep state actually goes. And the degree to which institutions that the American people should have real trust in should be able to to believe, should should be able to think that these people are on our side and are committed to the truth, that that really wasn't the case under President Obama. President Trump yesterday said treason, that this is treason.

41:42Dan Bongino:Not surprisingly, for the first time in the last week, suddenly the media are covering this story, Congressman. It seems like President Trump has somehow once again tricked the media into finally covering a story that they desperately didn't want to. Yeah, you know, it reminds me of, in this past election cycle, President Biden's health. Everybody in America knew that his mental health was declining. We could see it on camera. We knew it long before the famous debate with President Trump where Biden's eyes were glazed over, where he couldn't finish a sentence, where he was slurring his words the entire time.

42:21But for months before that, we knew what was going on and the media lied about it. And they just built up this house of cards trying to tell us, you know, don't believe the evidence of your eyes and ears. And eventually that collapses under the weight of real obvious information. And that's what we're seeing here, that the media built up a lie that President Trump had colluded with Russia, that Vladimir Putin wanted President Trump to win, that he interfered directly and on a large scale in U.S. elections. that was a lie. And now we're getting the information that completely crumbles all of that.

42:59Dan Bongino:Okay. So what is your expectation in terms of whether these guys are going to be held accountable? There's a lot of pessimism on the right. People, they keep hearing these things, a lot of investigations. We know a lot of the information. We've seen this for years. And so the big thing is like, where's the accountability? How concerned are you about that question? And are you convinced that the United States Department of Justice is going to do the job that the rest of us are hoping they do? You know, I have full confidence in the Trump administration and Tulsi Gabbard in the DOJ to go after this.

43:33Right now, we're in the fact finding phase. We've got more information from Tulsi Gabbard. I think we need to be having hearings on the oversight and judiciary committees, both of which I sit on, by the way, to bring these people in before Congress, put them under oath and ask them what was going on here. What did you know and when? When did you know that the Russia collusion hoax was a hoax? It asked them about the faulty intelligence that they used, asked them about the intelligence that they originally had, which told them that this hoax wasn't really real, that President Trump was not colluding with Russia.

44:10Let's get all the information, let's collect it, and then it's up to the DOJ to follow through with prosecutions if we can find if there were violations of the law. But I have full faith that if there was illegal activity, that that is going to be prosecuted.

44:27Dan Bongino:Do you think there should be a January 6th style committee to hover over all of this? Should some extraordinary step be taken by Congress, given how extraordinary these violations of our constitutional rights have been? I think that's something we should consider. We should look into of that. I don't think that any option should be off the table at this point. Okay. Yeah, this is a huge one. This is really, really a big one. Okay. So the August recess is about to begin in earnest. People are going to go home. There's been, this week, the media is making a lot of hay out of the fact that the House of Representatives, led by Speaker Johnson, decided not to vote on some sort of release of Epstein files.

45:10Dan Bongino:Speaker Johnson said the reason for that is because the Justice Department is actually doing it right now. The Justice Department is seeking grand jury evidence. They want this released right away. We heard from Todd Blanche, the Deputy Attorney General yesterday, that he's actually going to go personally interview Ghislaine Maxwell to get information out of her. Can you just give us a sense of what's actually happening? What don't people understand about the headlines they're seeing on this? Well, first of all, as you mentioned, President Trump has committed to transparency. The DOJ is committed.

45:41They're going to be talking to Ghislaine Maxwell. They have committed to releasing grand jury testimony. Now, I serve on the House Oversight Committee. We voted just yesterday to subpoena Ghislaine Maxwell so that we can talk to her as well. So this is all moving in the right direction so that we can get transparency for the American people, so that we can get justice. You know, this is there. I think that there's a big public interest in knowing to the extent that we can, because a lot of this is still under investigation there. Of course, there are victims involved here that we need to protect.

46:17There's information related to, you know, to. things about children that shouldn't be public. And I think everybody agrees with that. But to the extent that we can release this information, I think that the public needs to know what was going on here. But it is moving in the right direction. And we've got a lot to do whenever we come back.

46:37Dan Bongino:But in just again, in the last 24 hours, I've seen a ton of headlines claiming that Speaker Johnson is trying to prevent this information from coming out. He's stopping everybody from voting to release the Epstein files. Is that your impression? That is not. What we're saying is that we're not going to allow Democrats to politicize this process. So Democrats have jumped all over this in an attempt to attack President Trump. And remember, Democrats have had four years under the Biden administration to demand this. You didn't hear a peep from them. And now all of a sudden they're interested in releasing all of this information.

47:12But what we're saying is let's release it, but let's do so in a responsible way to make sure that we can protect victims and make sure that we're doing this in a way that upholds the integrity of our legal system. That's what we're working on. So the president has committed to transparency. We're working with him on that in the House, but we're wanting to make sure that we do this in the right way.

47:37Dan Bongino:OK, let me talk about some other things that the House of Representatives has to deal with. We saw a rescissions package go through the House relatively easy. It got through the Senate. Very difficult. But it made it$9 billion in cuts. Thank the good Lord finally making it through the Congress. Do you think the White House is going to send any more of these over? Because it was like pulling teeth to get the first one done. I do. I was at the White House last night for a reception celebrating the big, beautiful bill. And I was discussing this with a few different White House officials. there will be more rescission packages coming.

48:13And remember, the beauty of a rescission bill is that it allows us to claw back spending that's already been appropriated. And what's great about it is that it only requires 50 votes in the Senate. So we don't have to work with Democrats. Democrats will spend money on anything and everything, regardless of what it is. So we're able to rein in that spending. Usually, you know, a lot of this is going to egregiously woke projects. But there will be more. The rescission package that we passed and the president signed into law just last week or the week before. Yes. Was the first of many that we're going to have.

48:50I think that the next one, I think, may be even bigger than the last one that we passed. That one was about nine billion dollars. So there's a lot more to go here.

48:59Dan Bongino:I'm looking forward to it. But here's the trick. This audience is familiar with something called pocket rescissions. We've been talking about this a lot. And the idea is basically that the White House would wait until about August 18th, not that far away, and then fire off this rescissions package. And because the fiscal year will end about exactly 45 days later, it doesn't even matter if Congress votes on it. So is that the format? Are you expecting the White House is going to wait until about mid-August to send these rescission packages? We'll see what they do on the pocket rescissions. I'll leave that up to them.

49:31I would like to see Congress vote on as many of these as possible. And the reason is so that we can we can show the American people that we are serious about reigning in waste, fraud and abuse, that Congress stands with the president. And I think that that helps us right size appropriations going forward so that we can say we've already voted to claw this money back. We don't want to be spending money on NPR or PBS or USAID or woke critical race theory or whatever else we could be rescinding. So I think it's important that Congress has a role here. But if the president and his administration wants to go down the path of pocket rescissions, I am all for that.

50:13But what I would like to see going forward and in future appropriations bills is to right size the budget process to make these truly permanent, these doge cuts, so that we're not continuing to refund woke projects. And the more that we can vote on these rescission bills, the better.

50:34Dan Bongino:OK, but do you really think that the spending will come down in the appropriations process? So people understand this is basically Congress has this obligation, which it normally fails to fulfill. Usually we just get continuing resolutions forever. People, Congress very rarely votes on real appropriations bills. But if you're going to do it for real, are people actually going to cut spending? Like you walk the halls with these guys, Congressman, you talk to them. Is it all just lip service or is it really going to happen? Well, I can tell you the Republican conference is serious about cutting spending.

51:02That's why in the big, beautiful bill, we had the largest mandatory spending reduction in American history,$1.3 trillion. We rescinded$9 billion on the discretionary side just last week. What I'm going to be fighting for is to make sure that that doesn't get re-added, or if there's a CR that we can claw this money back, that we can carve it out, in other words, to make sure that we're not refunding these programs. I don't think that Republicans can go back to our voters and say that we voted to to rescind money and then we just refunded it in the next next CR, next appropriations bill. That's going to be a problem for us.

51:40So I'm going to be fighting to make sure that that does not happen. OK, I love it.

51:46Dan Bongino:And finally, what is it like being Dinesh D'Souza's son in law? it makes for a particularly interesting uh christmas uh dinner conversations and holiday conversations so he's a great guy i was thinking that i was like what is thanksgiving like you know what is thanks what are the conversations like at that table that must be awesome you know he's a he's a brilliant guy brilliant thinker um somebody who can talk on any topic on politics or history or philosophy um as long as you want to hear ask him about anything you want. He can lecture for an hour or two if you want to hear it. It's so good.

52:22Dan Bongino:All right. Well, keep up the great work. Keep reading all of those lefty Twitter accounts before they show up to your various hearings. And oh, you appreciate you, sir. Congressman, we'll have you back. Congressman Brandon Gill. Good to talk to you today, sir. Thanks for having me. All right. That was great. And OK, so while we were chatting with the congressman, a lot of things are happening. Tulsi Gabbard is, as I mentioned earlier in the program, declassifying more information this morning as we speak. What she just declassified is the old House Intelligence Oversight Majority Report. That would have been Devin Nunes and company.

53:02Dan Bongino:They had a classified version of their report. She has now officially declassified it. And in her summary today, She says really obviously that there's a bunch of stuff that the Obama administration was lying about that the report demonstrates what the truth actually is. She lists them out on her account today. She says the lie was that Putin and the Russian government helped Trump at all win the 2016 election. She says, no, the truth is Obama and Brennan and the rest of the gang fabricated all of this. They manufactured that finding. There was no intel to support that claim. And yes, they yet they insisted it in public anyway to try and ruin the incoming Trump presidency.

53:45Dan Bongino:Tulsi Gabbard emphasizing that that's from the report today, all just declassified. Also, they said they claimed the lie was that the fabricated Steele dossier wasn't used at all as a source in that intelligence community assessment of January 2017. 17. She emphasizes something that we've gotten a lot of pieces on already, that it was Brennan, it was Comey, it was Clapper, who worked together to force the Steele dossier that was paid for and created by Hillary Clinton's campaign again, to join that intelligence community assessment again, to try and hurt the incoming president of the United States.

54:19Dan Bongino:Just the most disgusting behavior out of all these people. Also, another lie, the Obama administration's ICA was an independent intelligence community product, is the lie, that was produced with apolitical analysis. She says that this report, this declassified report, demonstrates that Obama ordered this assessment and they knew it was false, that they promoted a fake narrative, all with the intent of undermining the legitimacy and the power of a duly elected president, Donald Trump. And Tulsi Gabbard finishes today on this thread, pointing out what they've revealed here, that there's a lot more to come, but what they've revealed so far includes the, pardon me here, what they include so far includes three massive declassification efforts.

55:07Dan Bongino:The Justice Department's June 2018 report of the Clinton annex, that was declassified. The House Intel Oversight report that Devin Nunes ran, that was just declassified. And all of those director of national intelligence records that kicked everything off on Friday. So Tulsi Gabbard, are we not pleased with her? She's doing her job. She's absolutely doing her job. And she, I can tell she's like me. She's like you. She wants prosecutions. She's, they've been including the justice department in all of these conversations. Check it out, guys. Here's what we've got. The FBI is investigating this. Nobody knows this case better in the FBI than Cash Patel, who worked with Devin Nunes, and Dan Bongino, both of these men, wrote the actual, the literal books on the subject.

55:56Dan Bongino:Now at the top of the FBI, now it's going to take prosecutions. Tulsi Gabbard is breathing down the neck of the Justice Department saying prosecute. The president is breathing down the neck of the Justice Department saying prosecute. Dan Bongino and Cash Patel, I can tell you, I know in my gut, you know in your gut, They're breathing down the necks of the prosecutors at the Justice Department. Prosecute. So will they do it? Will they do it? That's the big push. Prosecute. Prosecute. We need to restore order in the United States of America. This is the way to do it. I leave you today with a big win.

56:35Dan Bongino:I want to share one big victory for you. As reported by the New York Times, they're angry about it, which means it's good for the rest of us. The New York Times headline today. Hospitals are limiting gender treatment for trans minors, even in blue states. Let me rephrase the distortion that the New York Times put on that headline. The Trump administration is shuttering child mutilation mills across the country. A massive success. They complain that two prominent medical centers in California are now sharply cutting back gender-related treatments, these abuses that they do to kids, that's because they're, quote, under pressure from the Trump administration.

57:18Dan Bongino:Children's Hospital Los Angeles on Tuesday shuttered its center for trans youth health and development, one of the nation's oldest and largest clinics for transgender and gender nonconforming young people. This is where they abuse, affirm that abuse, and mutilate these children. They're shuttering that operation. Thank God. Stanford Medicine, as well, in the San Francisco Bay Area, has paused all of the surgical procedures that they've been doing on children, including new puberty blocker implants. Massive. Other hospitals in cities and states led by Democrats have also moved to get rid of all of this mutilation.

57:59Dan Bongino:The University of Chicago Medicine, UChicago Medicine, just announced last week it's ending all of the pediatric transition care. Days after another Chicago system, Rush University System for Health said they were doing the same. Washington, D.C., Children's National Hospital has announced just this past week that they're discontinuing any more of this transition garbage starting August 30th. The University of Pittsburgh Medical Center said that they're no longer going to be doing this. No puberty blockers, no hormone therapy for kids under the age of 19. I'm telling you that this counts as yet another one of those wins that President Trump has warned everybody that you're going to get tired of.

58:39Dan Bongino:I'm not tired of it. Keep them coming. Glad to have them. I've got another big episode of Vince for you tomorrow. I've got the big Vince show, radio show, coming up 12 to 3 Eastern today. You can watch it live, rumble.com slash Vince. We've got some big guests too, I think, coming up on the show today. We're finalizing the details. Stand by for them. But it's going to be great. Appreciate you as always. Back with you tomorrow.

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