SPECIAL: Vanity Fair Goes Nuclear On Trump’s Inner Circle - Nightly Scroll w/ Hayley Caronia

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28:20And apparently he is 5 '8". He is stocky. He was wearing a black beanie, black face mask, a color-blocked dark jacket, It may be black and olive green jacket, black pants and shoes. And what you're looking at right now is updated footage from what we showed you yesterday. And this is from FBI's Boston field office. They released this earlier today. And they're hoping that as we head into day four of this manhunt, this footage can help people in the area help identify this man. Although I'm sure the guy is wearing something else by now. And if you watched Monday's episode with Scott Bryson, he explained that, you know, the further that they get into this manhunt day by day, it's harder, going to be harder for them to find him because, you know, gives them more time to get away.

29:15But I'm hoping that this, I mean, this is good footage. The first footage that came out, I thought, how the heck is anyone going to be able to identify this guy? It was blurry. It was far away. It was dark. But this is much clearer. and you know this is you can see I mean if this was someone that I personally knew and you knew that their jacket looked like that or their hat looked like that or they walked like that this could be a total game changer so I'm hoping that this really does help um nab this guy absolutely we need justice and in the meantime Alabama Governor Kay Ivey she put this on X saying that she had directed all the flags to be flown at half staff in Alabama um until sunset on Friday December 19th this week in memory of Ella Cook, one of the victims in this killing, senseless killing.

30:04She was the vice president of the Young Republicans Club there on campus at Brown University. And she's from Alabama. So Governor Kay Ivey in Alabama says that all of Alabama wraps her arms around Ella's family in prayer. And she joins in mourning her loss. So very sad there, but hopefully some positive updates after this new footage comes out. Also, quick update on the Reiner murders. Rob and Michelle Reiner were stabbed by their, well, allegedly by their son, of course, innocent until proven guilty. But he was found, they were both found dead in their L.A. home over the weekend. And their 32-year-old son was taken into custody and booked on murder charges.

30:50It's now believed that this escalated from an argument that started at Conan O 'Brien's Christmas party the night before the murders, rather, which apparently stemmed from Nick Reiner's using drugs again. And he had struggled with drug use in the past and potentially on drugs again. And this is what prompted them to have kind of this heated argument that, again, carried into the next day when he decided to stab both of his parents. And he was due to be arraigned earlier this morning. But his lawyer, Alan Jackson, told reporters that he had not been medically cleared for transport to the courthouse.

31:32So I'm not sure what that means necessarily. If he's not been medically cleared, I don't know if maybe he was injured in whatever tussle happened. the night that he killed his parents, but we will bring you the details when we get them. Also wanted to cover the infamous meeting of Erica Kirk and Candace Owens that happened yesterday. So I just wanted to give a disclaimer before I get into this, because I haven't really covered this much. Someone had asked me what my thoughts were on, you know, this conservative influencer or podcaster beef. And I answered this, I don't know, maybe it was over a month ago now.

32:11And I don't love to get involved in this because I have my own show to produce and host daily. And on the weekends, I try to touch grass. I try to see friends. I try to read books, get off my phone a little bit. I try to go to church. I try to catch up on chores. I do not listen to as much conservative media as you think I would. I genuinely try to escape it when I'm not working on my own show, although I do try to stay abreast of what's going on. So when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, I watched a few episodes of Candace because, of course, they're very close friends. And everyone wanted to know what Candace was saying.

32:51I mean, Candace was a huge part of TPUSA. They were very close. Blegzit was part of TPUSA. When Charlie Kirk was assassinated, I mean, she was one of the first people that I thought of, honestly. And I think we all felt that way. I mean, oh my goodness, this is one of her closest friends that's been shot in front of the entire world. And I haven't watched all of the episodes. I'm not sure what she's saying now or recently, but I've only heard what other people are saying that it's kind of gone off the rails since then. So I want to be upfront with you that I can't give you a completely educated opinion on the topic because I'm only hearing what she's saying through other people.

33:27right? But I've heard that there's, you know, Egyptian planes following Erica Kirk, among other things. But she did say in the beginning, and I heard her in this episode say that the only two people who could get her to stop covering this are her own husband or Erica Kirk. And Erica Kirk told conspiracy theorists to stop spreading lies. And apparently, you know, TPUSA and Candace had agreed to do a live stream that they could kind of hash this stuff out because Candace had launched attacks at TPUSA, claiming that they were somehow involved in this with cameras and SD cards and all this stuff, right?

34:10And she claimed that people closest to Charlie didn't care nearly as much as she cared about getting to the bottom of this. I can assure you people who know and loved Charlie Kirk want the answers to this, right? But it was like, she's the only person that cares about this. So they agreed to do this live stream and then that never ended up happening. And then that brings us to yesterday when Erica Kirk sat down with Candace Owens in a closed door private meeting that allegedly lasted four and a half hours, according to Candace. Candace put out a tweet. She also put out a video on X basically explaining that this was like a four and a half hour meeting and she was going to get into it basically tomorrow as in today.

34:56So she said, I will of course have a full rundown for you all tomorrow as I am currently exhausted, but I wanted to let you all guys know that absolutely nothing was held back. And the immediate result was that tensions were thawed, which is good. Now I wish that I was a fly on the wall of this meeting. And I'm sure most of you feel the same way because, you know, I get that it's closed door. And, you know, if they can discuss the details of the meeting publicly afterwards, you know, Erica Kirk might go on Fox or Turning Point, right? Her husband's radio show, or, you know, Candace will do it on her show as she did today.

35:36So then we're getting like potentially two sides of the story. And I don't blame them for wanting to do this in private. I don't think anyone should have been, you know, making money or clicks off of this conversation, although the night is young and, you know, Candace did her live stream. Now, I was prepping for this show, so I didn't watch the whole thing, but I did catch clips of it and I had Justin, thankfully, watch the thing for me. So this is what, this is my take, right? Candace is clearly not afraid to stand up to foreign governments. She's not afraid of a lawsuit. And whether or not you believe in what she's saying, Candace Owens owns what she says.

36:15And according to Justin, because I didn't watch the whole thing, but she did double down on everything. She claims to have receipts as she always does. She claims to have sources at CBS. She had sources, claims to have sources in the town hall audience that claimed that the questions that Erica Kirk was answering were scripted and that she knew of them ahead of time. Now, I can tell you from my experience working as a producer in this industry, I've produced town halls at multiple networks. The questions are scripted. That's what happens. No network on the face of the planet is going to have a live audience and hand some rando a microphone and be like, have at it.

37:06Literally no network ever. So I'm just explaining to people who might not understand how this works, but when you have your editorial on the line, you have your reputation on the line, you are vetting those questions. I personally used to vet questions for town halls because you can't just have people ask crazy shit and not know. Why would you put yourself or your network in that position? So again, that's a crazy thing to, Like, of course, the questions are scripted. Now, whether or not Erica Kirk should have gotten those questions ahead of time, I mean, I would say no. But Candace claims that Erica's media appearances have been scripted.

37:47She has not given authentic takes yet. Do I believe that? I don't know. Justin was also telling me that she uses this tactic. and I've experienced this too when watching her show where it's like, do you agree on this statement? Do we agree on this? Okay. Therefore I'm not lying to you, right? Therefore, if we agree on this, if you agree that we don't know everything about Charlie Kirk's murder, then believe me when I tell you X, Y, Z. And basically that's how she gets her audience in, right? It's we're building trust. I feel like the government's lying. You feel like the government's lying, we're in this together.

38:32And that formula works, right? I mean, it works because hosts and their audiences have to have a level of trust. And this is her strategy. Just to be clear, I guess I'm seeing a little bit of confusion in the chat. This was the reaction to Candace's show about Erica's town hall with CBS, right? She's currently live with her show on Erica's conversation on her and Erica's private conversation. Interesting. So it's live right now. It's live right now. I'm looking to because like I have it up and she has like super chats and everyone's going crazy in the chat. And some people were saying, you know, like Candace, you sold out.

39:12Like her followers are now saying that they don't believe Candace because Candace said, you know, the only two people that can get me to shut up is my husband and Erica Kirk. So then her people who are watching Candace religiously are feeling like, well, you better not switch up because if you switch up based on this conversation with Erica Kirk, then that means that, you know, they, whoever they is got you, right? Like they have tainted you. They have told you to shut up, something like that. So some people, and the chat is going so freaking fast because I'm sure there's a bajillion people. There's 301 ,000 people watching right now, um, live.

39:56So people are calling her a sellout. Again, I can't watch it and host the show at the same time. So maybe we'll do a further breakdown tomorrow, but you know, this is kind of like, you kind of have to wait and see what happens. You know, someone, I answer questions on my Instagram story usually once a week. And someone asked me recently about this situation, whether I was pro or anti-Candace. And I'm neither. I'm not necessarily pro-Candace, although I've watched her show and I like her. I think she's funny. I think she's talented. I think she's smart. but I'm not, you know, anti-Candace in any way.

40:36You know, I'm pro-truth. And I think everyone wants to know the truth about what happened to Charlie. Everyone wants to know all the details about the investigation and everything will come out. And my take is Candace's reporting will either hold up or not. And that was my take, which is not controversial at all, right? Because that is just the truth, right? At some point, we're going to see this trial play out. We're going to see evidence that we haven't seen before. And, you know, Candace is arguing that, you know, or Erica Kirk, rather, said that, you know, these conspiracy theories, she doesn't want them tainting a jury pool, which is completely valid.

41:22And Candace said that, you know, she doesn't want to taint the jury pool. She claims that she's not tainting the jury pool. and then she doesn't give credit to the government who is actually the ones gatekeeping the information that could potentially taint the jury pool so again and i you know i love conspiracy theories i have a tinfoil hat segment on this show and i firmly believe that conspiracies are born out of a lack of transparency right and candace is right we don't know everything yet And that is how conspiracy theories start, right? And you can have good intentions in that, running down every theory, right?

42:04Because during COVID-19, conspiracy theorists were undefeated. Undefeated, right? The government would tell us one thing, it was the opposite. it. That's just what that's just what was happening. Right. And here's what we know as of now. A man has been charged with the murder of Charlie Kirk. We're going to watch the trial play out. There's going to be evidence presented that the public hasn't seen yet. The truth will come out. I have full faith that the justice will be served. I have no doubt that law enforcement, especially under the Trump administration, are dedicated to seeking justice for Charlie.

42:44And Erica Kirk has said, I don't want to taint a jury pool. That is how we get justice. And when we do find out the truth, Candace's reporting will either hold up or it won't. That's it. That is it. And I think the saddest part of all of this, and this just goes back to the conspiracy thing, I place blame on the Biden administration. I place blame on the deep state, the American people have trust issues. They don't trust any institutions anymore. They'll never be able to fully trust the government ever again, and I don't blame them. They don't trust any three-letter agencies. Thanks to AI, nobody trusts their own eyes anymore.

43:29Conspiracy theories, you know, they were running rampant during COVID. And remember, people used to say the difference between a conspiracy theory and the truth is about six months' time. But that doesn't mean that every conspiracy theory is true. I think there's truth in every theory, but that doesn't mean that the whole thing is true. Does that make sense? But now everyone wants to believe what they want to believe. And the problem with the internet is that you can find something on the internet or someone to affirm your every thought and belief. the sky is blue right but i could go on google and find that the sky is purple because sometimes it is and i can find a whole community of people who think the earth is flat very true but my point is that even like something like that you can think that the sky is blue i can think that it's purple both of those things are true so people just argue all day long because everyone's right.

44:28That's the problem. So now nobody can decipher what is true, what isn't. And that's the kind of distrust that has people running into the arms of new media voices like Candace, like Tucker, like Ben Shapiro, like Megyn Kelly, even smaller ones like me. And people gravitate to the personalities that they like and they trust. And that is a big responsibility. And I think everyone in the new media knows that. It's not something that we take lightly. You know, bigger networks, they have more resources, they have more producers, they have more fact checkers, they have bigger tech teams, they have everything that we don't.

45:04And people who go out on their own are doing it for the love of the game. Not because it's easier to go out and do your own podcast, but because the American people have been failed by big media, big tech, and other big institutions, and this is why the new media exists in the first place. And if Candace ends up being right about everything and everything checks out, good on her. And if she's wrong, all we can ask for her is to issue corrections, apologize to our audience, but we just have to wait and see. Now, on the issue of Charlie Kirk, he has an amazing legacy. His legacy is that of young people hating big government, teaching young people to work hard, teaching young people to think for themselves, teaching young people to reach across the aisle and have conversations that might be difficult, might be hard, they might not want to do.

46:03That is Charlie Kirk's legacy. And that's just like a little bit of it, right? I mean, think of all the people that Charlie Kirk has impacted, young and old. And we think of the impact that Charlie Kirk has mostly on young people, because he's on all these college campuses and he's debating all the liberals and everything like that. And that's what he's known for and all the videos that have gone viral and everything. I mean, we're so lucky that all of these debates were on camera and that he had a podcast and all these things that we kind of have Charlie Kirk immortalized in a way. And I think what we don't really know and we don't see a lot is just how many people Charlie Kirk touched and the different kinds of people that Charlie Kirk touched.

46:48And this video went viral of a woman working at Target, and she's an older woman, but she was wearing a red Charlie Kirk shirt to work, and she got harassed for that. Watch. Why? They let you wear that shirt here? Yes. Why? Why are you taking my picture? Why are you wearing that shirt? You're working. It's not a target shirt. It's a red shirt. I can wear any red shirt. It's not a plain shirt. It doesn't have to be a - It's a Charlie Kirk shirt. Yes, oh yes I know. Are you fucking stupid? No. Why the fuck would you wear that? You're at work at Target. That's not a Target shirt. It's not a plain red shirt.

47:29We don't - You support a racist. I'm not - It's not a racist. You support a racist. He's not a racist. Yes he is. No he's not. Yes, he fucking is. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to stand here and argue with you. You're not. You should go get your manager. You should not be allowed to wear that at work. Unacceptable. Un-fucking-acceptable. That's your opinion. The opinion is he's a fucking racist and you support him. That's your opinion. And you should not be allowed to wear that. This is going to be taken above your fucking head. That's insane. Insane. Have a nice day. And fucking say. Piece of shit.

48:13So this woman that posted this video has now put her account private. So you can't see these videos anymore. But here's what I want to say. Anytime you see a video go viral of a Turning Point USA student or a table or a supporter getting harassed, they're always kind. They're always kind. this woman is being harassed, and she's saying, have a nice day. That's another part of Charlie Kirk's legacy. And I think he'd be really proud to know that people who supported him are nice and kind. But what I want to say to this disgusting woman who posted this video and harassed this elderly woman, put your phone down.

49:01I'm saying this as someone, the host of Nightly Scrawl, with a screen time of 16 hours a day. Put your phone down and touch grass. The fact that people have their phones at the ready to get people. They're out to get people with their phones. It is exhausting to watch. I'm going to start a fight with so-and-so and I'm going to film it and I'm going to put it on social media. And then I'm going to get validation in the forms of likes, clicks, because I think that the internet will agree with me. That is people's mentality in 2025. no one has ever de-escalated a situation by pulling their phone out to start filming it and everyone knows my golden rule by now sit down and shut up not everyone needs to know your opinion not everyone cares and I know we all have platforms to a bajillion people in our pockets but we live on a floating rock and none of this matters stop trying to cancel people it's lame it's embarrassing get a life and this elderly woman who is still working by the way leave her alone if you disagree with her politically who cares you don't know this woman you don't need to change everyone's minds you don't need to call her a piece of shit you don't need to call her manager you don't have to get her fired or anything like that the woman filming went viral she got what she wanted but she looks like an absolute loser picking a fight with an older woman clearly the woman's manager didn't care clearly she came into work she knows the rules working at target she says as long as I wear a red shirt doesn't matter so to this woman filming go get what you need from target go check out and go home not everything needs to be a viral moment go home find some other way to be content with your life but people have totally lost their grip with reality.

51:00No one knows how to act in public anymore. Nobody knows how to interact with people. Be kind and keep your phone in your pocket. It's not that freaking hard. It's just not. That made me mad when I cut that video. Yeah. And now it just makes me really sad. Anybody that's worked a point of sale or worked retail like that. I mean, like that's, it's, it's a difficult job because of people like that. And the word on the woman's shirt gives that lady the opportunity to say that. And it's just ironic and sad and people need to be better. And yeah, to your point, you know, Charlie Kirk stood for open dialogue, but kind dialogue and respectful dialogue, not what that person was doing.

51:46But again, you know, we're lucky. I feel proud to be on our side of the aisle. Whenever I see our people on our side of the aisle, I'm always proud of how they act for the most part. And I said this yesterday on the show, but the left makes it really damn easy to be better than them. They do because it's women like this who are taking their phones out and essentially harassing an elderly woman at her place of work. For what? For clicks on social media? Again, they make it very easy to be the bigger person and the better person. They're disgusting scum, truly. Disgusting scum. let's get into scrolling time.

52:46All right. So we've been covering this Minnesota Somali fraud situation on the show for a while. And this first video, it's just funny. It just shows the liberal, their lies, liberal lies. So this one woman was asked, you know, if you care about the Somali community, take one in. Watch this. Terrible. Why do you think it's terrible? Because we're a country that's inclusive of all nationalities, all countries, all peoples of the world. Are you concerned about the 19 countries that he designated? Yes. Okay. Do you think we should take them in, right? Yes. They should be vetted and we should take them in.

53:25But to just blanketly say no more is terrible can I ask you would you sign our petition here to stop Trump's racist immigration ban could you take how many immigrants could you take into your home from third world countries that he blocked I couldn't take any I live in Wisconsin can we we can send them to Wisconsin for you we just need your email address do you mind if we could we ask you to your name in your email um and then how many you'd like what do you mean to take in just to take them in because now they're not going to be able to come to the us but you could invite them into your home and and take care of them i couldn't i couldn't do that at this time too old okay okay thank you all right thank you okay i'm too old and uh and basically i'm lying i'm virtue signaling and that's why i can't take them in because i don't want to either this is what the liberals do they don't want to do anything themselves they don't want to they don't want to take in immigrants they don't they want the government to do it on our dime that's what it is they want oh free this free that yeah free education free housing free flights for illegals free phones for illegals free food for fat people yeah it all sounds good it all sounds great because they don't want to deal with the consequences.

54:52They want to put it on the government and then they get to vote for these asinine policies and feel good about themselves. They get to pat themselves on the back and say, I'm a good person because I voted Democrat. And Democrats are going to fix all the problems in the form of raising taxes. That's their motto. But here's the truth. So here's another man on the street interview. And this guy was asking people who actually live in this Somali community or near the Somali community in Minnesota what they think. Watch. I'm a Jew trying to learn a little bit of Somali. There are square blocks where you cannot function without a translator.

55:29This is little Mogadishu, Minneapolis. Being Somali out here for me is like survival every day. How large is the Somali community here in Minneapolis? Too much. They just came here. Most people have a job and work here. No, no, no. Speaking Somali. Yeah, I think that's just how they talk. Some of them don't speak English at all. Yesterday I tried to ask one of them a question and she didn't speak English. I got on Duolingo trying to learn a little bit of Somali. People have told me like, why would you feel like you need to learn another language when you're in America? And it's like, because there's a lot of people who speak a lot of languages in America.

56:06You don't think there are any problems with not being able to read like traffic directions? I do not agree with the simulation. Let them have their own language. You know, this isn't a thing about race. It's a thing about assimilation. You have to actually assimilate so you can actually become an American and be a part of our culture. Legal immigration, fine, let's have more of it. Let's just do it properly. And we can actually have a flourishing American culture going forward. Immigration without assimilation is an invasion. Because we are a melting pot and you can't tout the fact that we're a melting pot if no one comes here and wants to melt, then, you know, what is that?

56:46That's a stew. It's not a melting pot. It's just a stew. Just saying. Not a melting pot. If no one wants to melt, like, what are we? Then it's just a bunch of different, you know, communities that are separate from each other, and no one is united by an American identity anymore. Then what are we? We're a country with no culture and no borders. That's the left's version of the American dream. That's what they want. No borders, no culture, only immigrants. And we've seen how that's played out in Minneapolis. And I don't want that in my neighborhood. And I'm sure a lot of you don't either. All right.

57:30I want to move on to number 18 because this is, we cover some, you know, f around find out videos this one is a little less political and just funny but this is a little girl who f's around and finds out on the farm watch this so here she is this little girl she's got a shovel or something and she's taunting a rooster

57:58run Libby run watch what happens you better run you taunt the rooster three times and guess what

58:08You find out. You F around and you find out.

58:16She learned a valuable lesson that day. Don't taunt roosters because that's stupid. Anybody that's ever been on a farm knows that. So what happened to the parents here? If you're going to taunt a rooster, because I think the parents wanted to teach her a lesson. They knew that she was going to get the F-O after she F-A'd. and they were welcoming that. And I don't blame the parents. Sometimes you got to do a little tough love parenting. You know, gentle parenting doesn't do much these days. You got a tough parent. You got a tough love. And they were showing her, you know, if you poke this rooster, if you poke the bear three times, you know, it's not going to go well for you.

58:55And you better run and you better not have jello legs when you run away because then the rooster is going to get you. Yeah, she looked like she was in Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Every time somebody was coming at her, She falls down, gets up, falls down. This is how I run in a dream. Like when I'm in a dream state and I'm running away from the bad guy in my dream or whatever, it's like your legs don't work. You're falling all over the place. Yeah. Well, she found out. So that's an FAFO on the farm. All right. This next one is just very cute. There's a little girl. She is the star of the show at her Christmas church celebration.

59:32Watch this.

59:39If you're listening and not watching, I'm telling you, you've got to go to rumble.com slash Haley and watch this video.

59:48This little girl dressed as an angel, and her facial expressions are to die for. She's making everybody crack up in the church.

1:00:05She doesn't even know the words. She's just mouthing as best as she can.

1:00:17Someone in the chat said, perfect angel, precious. And I don't know who is sitting next to her. That was supposed to be Joseph, but he didn't look so happy. He wasn't thrilled with the angels' antics, but I thought that that was very cute. All right. Thank you for scrolling along with me. You can follow me on social media at Haley Karania on most platforms, and I'll catch you right back here at rumble.com slash Haley. Make sure you're subscribed and I'll see you tomorrow. Bye.