Stunning New Poll Has the Dems Panicking | Episode 194

23 Dec 2025 · 59 min

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The Dan Bongino Show - Episode 194 Summary

Episode Title

Stunning New Poll Has the Dems Panicking

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Shawn Farash

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Episode Overview In this episode of The Dan Bongino Show, guest host Shawn Farash discusses pressing political issues including new polling data, Donald Trump's actions in seizing oil tankers, and the implications of a potential government shutdown. The episode features a blend of humor, political commentary, and a critique of media narratives.

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Key Topics Covered

  1. Polling Data and Its Implications
  2. Turning Point USA Poll:
  3. 90% of participants support halting all immigration (both legal and illegal) into the U.S.
  4. Highlighting a strong sentiment among young conservatives regarding immigration policies.
  • Harvard-Harris Poll:
  • 60% of Americans believe Democrats should adopt a wait-and-see approach towards Trump's actions rather than opposing them outright.
  • A significant split in Democratic opinions, with 62% wanting to oppose Trump regardless of the consequences.
  1. Trump’s Diplomatic Actions
  2. Shawn refers to Trump as the "Pirate King" for seizing oil tankers violating U.S. sanctions, portraying a playful yet strong image of American assertiveness in international waters.
  3. There’s humor tied to the "Pirate King" moniker, including references to sea shanties and pirate culture.
  1. Government Shutdown Considerations
  2. Discussion of the January 30th deadline for government operations and the looming threat of a shutdown.
  3. Possible reasons behind the Democrats' reluctance to cooperate with Trump and the Republican agenda, focusing on healthcare subsidies and illegal immigration issues.
  1. Critique of Media and Government
  2. Shawn critiques media figures like Chuck Todd for the decline in public trust in journalism, attributing it to their own failures rather than algorithms or external factors.
  3. Discussion of health care subsidies and contrasting the Affordable Care Act's intentions with its outcomes.
  1. Cultural Commentary
  2. Humorously touches on current cultural narratives and how they intersect with political events, using pop culture references to highlight absurdities in political discourse.

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Key Takeaways

  • Polling Insights: Current polling suggests a significant disconnect between liberal ideologies and the broader American perspective, especially regarding Trump’s policies.
  • Immigration Stance: A strong conservative consensus emerges from young voters, advocating for a moratorium on immigration.
  • Media Accountability: Criticism of the media's role in shaping public perception and their failure to provide trustworthy information.
  • Playful Political Commentary: The use of humor and pop culture references serves to engage listeners while addressing serious political issues.

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Conclusion The episode encapsulates the heated political climate in America, emphasizing the challenges faced by Democrats and the shifting sentiments among voters, particularly regarding immigration and Trump’s policies. Through humor and candid analysis, Shawn Farash effectively engages the audience while navigating complex topics in today’s political landscape.

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0:00Hello and welcome to the Vince show. Obviously not Vince, probably not as pretty of a face. My name is Sean Farish. You probably see me around. You know about it sound more like your favorite president than your favorite president does. and I want to wish you a very Merry Christmas. I got along very well with Santa Claus, and all of you are going to be on the nice list, that much I can tell you. Great show for you today. A couple of polling studies and polls are out. Turning Point USA, 90 % of those polled want to halt immigration, and a very, very bad poll about the Democrats, not good. They're in some bad shape.

0:37They think there's a blue wave coming. I don't know about that. Also, Donald Trump, the pirate king, we'll get to all that. And is there another shutdown on the way? We'll see what's going on January 30th. That's the deadline. We'll have all that and more right here on The Vince Show today. But before we do that, I want to get to a word from our friends over at Beams Dream Powder. Christmas used to mean something simple. Family gathered around a table, real conversation, hard work rewarded with a little time to breathe. But these days, everybody is looking for the easy way out. but not our friends at Beam.

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2:13And there's a nice little surprise. You've got me in the Santa hat. It's a beautiful thing. We love Santa Claus. He's a tremendous person. Saint Nick. Some people call him Chris Kringle. As long as you don't call him Chris Christie, we're very happy about it. You know, he's one of those fat people who won't be coming down your chimney, I can tell you, and you don't want that to happen. Merry Christmas to everybody here. Bongino Army, Invincibles, Everybody who's here and so excited to be here again, once again, guest hosting for you. We've got a lot to get to. And I want to start with a, you know, with polling.

2:45Some people say to me, Sean, you can't trust the polls. The polls are fake. The polls can't be trusted. Well, I'll tell you one thing. The polls, they're not perfect. But if there's one thing I could tell you about polls is that they are a reliable, not a reliable, but a data set. It's all we have. It's the only data that we have when we talk about these issues surrounding American politics. And this is a very interesting poll. You know, we hear about Trump derangement syndrome all the time, right? And you could live by TDS, you could die by TDS, right? And of course, I mean that metaphorically speaking or rhetorically speaking.

3:22We don't want anybody to actually be hurt before people start running around like chickens with their heads cut off. No, we're not calling for violence. But a majority of folks polled here, and I want to be very clear about this particular poll, because if you studied polling and you look at all the different polling firms and different polls that go out on websites like FiveThirtyEight or RealClearPolitics, you kind of start to learn which way these polls tend to lean. And this poll in particular is not a poll that I would say leans to the right. This would be a poll that I would say, if anything, leans pretty heavily to the left, right?

4:02So you have some right-leaning polls, kind of like Trafalgar, maybe some insider advantage polls, Signal, Qantas Insights from Time to Time, Rasmussen. You know, and they probably won't appreciate me saying they skew to the right. When I say skew to the right, they skew to the right more so than your general Quinnipiac, Emerson, and Harvard-Harris. And this poll is a Harvard-Harris poll, and it shows a trend that we've been taking note of on my show on LFA TV. We talk about this all the time, that the Democrats and the way they think, that is the outlier in this country. And what I mean by that is generally since 2023, we've seen this trend bear out in a lot of these polls.

4:46You see Republicans and independents feel one way about something. And then you see Democrats all the way out there in left field. They feel a whole different way about something, you know, and that's exactly what's happening here with this poll that Harvard Harris conducted in December. Remember, a majority of Americans, so a majority of everybody polled, this is not the splits yet, a majority of Americans believe that the Democrats should take a wait-and-see attitude and approach on President Donald Trump's actions rather than blindly opposing them, right? So again, you live by TDS, you die by TDS.

5:23One of my favorite movies, you know, other than Star Wars, which everybody knows, everybody knows that it's one of my favorites, but I also happen to like this, you know, Pirates of the Caribbean. I think Jack Sparrow is one of my favorite movie characters of all time. He's just a silly person. He's kind of like a functioning alcoholic and he, he bounces around the ship and, you know, so from the original Pirates of the Caribbean movie, there's a scene where those, the British soldiers are rowing out of the cave or they're going into the cave to go to confront the pirates. And one of the people says, how come we're not doing what, what Captain Sparrow said to do and waiting by the ships.

5:58And the Commodore says, because it was Captain Jack Sparrow who said it. And this is the moral of that story. Not that we were taking lessons from a pirate movie or anything, but the lesson is real, right? Don't just discount what somebody says because somebody who you don't like said it. There's a lot of people on social media, a lot of people in the conservative media space that I've kind of grown tired of over the last, I would say, 12 months. and if you need to know who I'm talking about, you can see on my social media exactly some of these people who I'm talking about. But if they came out and said, you know, water is wet, I wouldn't look at that and go, well, water might not be wet anymore because so-and-so who I don't like and I don't trust said it, right?

6:45Some things are just obvious. Some things, you know, we don't necessarily need to argue. So that's what the majority of voters are telling the Democrats to do. Look, don't just discount. Don't just, you know, laugh off and gaff off Donald Trump's ideas because Trump said it. I mean, I made bits about this over the summer. We're endorsing oxygen. We love breathing, right? You look at it. I get along very well with air. They call it air. I call it O2. You look at O2. I love oxygen. Oxygen is great. And you breathe in, you breathe out. And I did that in front of my doctors. And my doctor said, sir, these are the greatest lungs the world has ever seen.

7:23They inflate. They deflate. you've got a beautiful you got big beautiful lungs and you're going to keep i want all of you to breathe because we're hoping that the radical left-wing crazy people and frankly stupid people hold their breath that's honestly what they do you know you remember when donald and i made that why did i make that i made that because remember when rfk and and donald trump came out and said hey um you know maybe stay away from tylenol when you're pregnant and there were people eating tylenol on tiktok they were just like oh trump said not to take tylenol and they started guzzling the pills out of the bottle.

7:55That's stupid and insane behavior. And this is what the majority of Americans who answered this poll want Democrats to stop doing. They're saying, not every idea that Trump has is a great idea. Not every idea that Trump has is necessarily something that we want to see done. But why don't we see if it works first rather than just writing it off because Trump said it. So 60 % of those polled by Harvard Harris, this is a Harvard Harris poll. Again, this is not a poll that generally is favorable or produces results that I would normally be out here behind a microphone in front of a camera talking about.

8:39I would be saying, ah, this is a poll that can't be trusted. 60%, okay? That's nearly two thirds said that Democrats should take more of a wait and see attitude compared to 40 % who said they should just oppose everything Trump is doing and just lean into your TDS. Now, opinions, of course, greatly vary on party lines. Most Democrats, 62 % believe that the Democrats should just oppose everything that Donald Trump is doing compared to 38 % of Democrats who believe they should take a wait and see approach. So there you go. That's where the Democrats stand. And this is the trend that we saw starting to take place.

9:22I watched these polls, these approval rating polls. It was Joe Biden. He was only getting a favorable approval rating from Democrats, Republicans, and independents. Didn't like Joe Biden back in 2023. Inflation, the price of gas, the direction of the country, you name it. This trend showed itself every single time from 2023 all the way through the 2024 election, which, you know, Donald Trump won in a landslide. So you've got 62 % of Democrats, a majority of Democrats, a large majority of Democrats believe TDS is the way. Lean into your Trump derangement syndrome, lean into it, feel good about it, just oppose everything Donald Trump is doing, obstruct him every step of the way.

10:03This is what Democrats want the Democrats to do. However, most Republicans and independents, okay, 79 % of Republicans and 62 % of independents believe that Democrats should have a wait and see attitude compared to 39 % of independents and 21 % of Republicans who say the opposite, who say, yeah, Democrats should just oppose what Donald Trump wants to do simply because it's Donald Trump and they don't want to let him have their way. So here we go. Republicans and independents agree. The Democrats should stop just leaning into TDS, should stop defaulting to if Trump says it, it's bad. And if Trump wants to do it, we can't let it happen.

10:50And let's see what happens. Right. And one of the examples that I have is tariffs. Right. You look at the tariffs and Donald Trump was doing this to protect American workers. They said, no, these these companies, they're going to wind up passing these costs on to the consumers. You're going to watch the price of everything that you want to go up. The world is going to end. The sky is going to start falling. There's going to be things coming out of the sky. All sorts of, not what happened with tariffs. Why don't we wait and see? You know, it was like appealing to me when I hear the president of the United States saying he wants to replace the income tax, which I can't stand, with tariffs, right?

11:27Well, you're going to pay more for things, Yes. But if you're not going to be paying the income tax on every dollar that you make, I would say that that's a pretty fair trade. I'd like that trade because then essentially what's happening is you're paying a sales tax. Right. So if the cost of goods and services increase, right, because of tariffs, if the cost of these things go up, that only impacts me when I buy those things. right? I mean, it has to make sense. So if, if let's say that, you know, a coffee mug that comes from China, right? We don't, and I get along very well with China. And you look at President Xi of China, I call him Winnie the Pooh.

12:05They say, sir, you're not supposed to say that. And I said to President Xi, if you don't want me to call you Winnie the Pooh, you have to stop looking like Winnie the Pooh and tell Christopher Robin, I said, hello, and no more honey for you until you start behaving. But if I have a coffee mug that comes from China, right? And there's a 300 % tariff on that mug. And so now it costs three times as much. But I only have to pay that when I buy the coffee mug. And I can avoid the tariff by buying a mug that doesn't come from China, right? That comes from the good old US of A. So you look at that example.

12:40So I only have to pay the quote unquote tax. Everyone's all a tariff is a tax. I only have to pay the quote-unquote tax when I buy something. Now, the income tax applies to, after the standard deduction, obviously, every single dollar that I make, regardless of whether or not I'm buying something. So I would rather be taxed or have to deal with the increased cost of something when I'm consuming that good or service instead of paying a percentage of my income to the federal government on every dollar that I make. And that's just one of those things, the wait and see approach. Let's see. You guys say tariffs are going to be terrible.

13:21You guys say it's going to be the end of the world. You guys say it's going to tank the economy. Well, you're never going to be proven right if you stand in the way. If you're saying it's the worst thing in the world, then you should probably let it happen. Well, you say, oh, if it's going to be so bad for the country. No, they're afraid to let these things happen because they know they're going to be good for the country. Look at the southern border. Tom Holman just gave a glowing review over what he saw down there on the southern border. Zero illegal aliens have been released into the country between May and November of 2025.

13:57That's insane. That's six months of zero. It's a goose egg. It's a donut. Zero illegal aliens released into the United States. Zero. That doesn't mean that none are coming in. That means those who are coming in are being apprehended, detained, and not just being turned loose in the interior of the United States saying, all right, well, we'll see you when we see you. Show up to court if you want. And if you don't show up to court, that's no big deal. We'll get back to you when we can. The southern border has been a rousing success. All we heard from Democrats is that, well, first we heard that they needed an act of Congress in order to secure the southern border.

14:35Donald Trump did it in a day. He snapped his fingers, my big, beautiful fingers. He snapped his fingers and the border was closed. now you've got 1.9 I believe was the number 1.9 million illegal aliens have self-deported and 600 ,000 have been involuntarily deported fine by me I don't care how they leave as long as they leave right it's like that song closing time you don't have to go home but you can't stay here and I don't care where you go just get out right I know Dan used to do karate man from from trading places. There's another scene in Trading Places where they're in Eddie Murphy's house, right?

15:14The character in Eddie Murphy's house. And the party's going on too long and he didn't like the fact that they're kind of trashing the house. And he just said, get the F out! That's how I feel about the illegals at this point. Okay? All-time great movie, by the way. Trading Places. And technically a Christmas movie. It's on TV like every night now. It's an amazing movie, right? It's an amazing movie. Lionel Joseph. We had great fun there at the pavilion. Bo-billy, bo-billy, bo-billy. It's great. I certainly hope there's enough spires on the tree for me. You know, Dan Aykroyd did a better Jamaican accent than Kamala Harris.

15:50Yeah, I was going to say. With Stephen Colbert. Remember that nonsense? How have you no empathy, man? What are you doing? And then on Univision. Remember when you went on Univision? Is your house okay? Is your family okay? What are you doing? Could you imagine if Donald Trump for a second put on, you know, a Spanish accent on Univision. And he was just like, happy Cinco de Porto, me fellow Americanos, get the hell out of our country. And that wasn't even in Spanish accent. You know, Feliz de Porto, right? Get the hell out. Feliz de Porto. Prospero, viaje y no vuelvas. That means have a safe trip and don't come back.

16:26We love it. And we're talking all about it. These polls and this data is disastrous for the Democrats. And it spells out a larger issue. So while they may claim, they may claim that Donald Trump, oh, he is historically unpopular. Well, according to most, if not all polling right now, Donald Trump's approval rating in his second term is better than Bush. It's better than Obama. It's better than Clinton. I mean, come on. Historically unpopular. I don't think so. I'll tell you who is historically unpopular though. And that's the Democrat party in Congress. Now the Republicans are not right there either.

17:06I mean, they're not doing too hot either. It's because they're doing a whole lot of nothing right now. But the Democrats, I believe, have an 18 % approval rating. 18%. Now, when they asked our good friend, well, I say good friend in jest, Hakeem Jeffries about it. What do you, Brennan calls Hakeem Jeffries? That's Dallastow. She called him Dallastow. Dallastow, Dallastow, Obama. We called him, during the Schumer siesta, remember the sombreros? We called him Peso Store, Obama. That was so funny. And then we had, and remember this too, remember we had the Indian headdress on Columbus Day. They call me Chief Golden Eagle and they call Hakeem Jeffries Chief Tiny Teepee.

17:49He has a very small teepee, the biggest teepee the world has ever seen, Chief Tiny Teepee. But Hakeem Jeffries was asked this question about a new poll that came out regarding the Democrats' approval rating. Do we have that? Can we roll Hakeem Jeffries? He said, it's an outlier. He said, it's an outlier. Let's go to that Jeffrey's clip. Actually, the Democrats in recent polls are actually faring worse than the Republicans. Take a look at a Quinnipiac poll out just this week. Shows the Democrats have their lowest approval rating in the polls. Fifteen year history. Only 18 percent give Democrats a high approval rating in the handling of the economy.

18:27Only 18 percent. Seventy three percent disapproval. What are you doing wrong? Well, clearly that's an outlier poll. Clearly, yeah, clearly. It's because it's inconvenient. It's like that scene from Liar Liar. Objection, Your Honor. Why? What does he say? On what grounds? Because it's devastating to my case. It's not an outlier. Hakeem. Dollar store. Peso store. Whatever you want to call yourself, right? Timu, he's Obama from China. Even the Epstein people. Remember that letter they sent? They called him Brooklyn's Barack.

19:09All right. It's not an outlier. Even Harvard, so you have Quinnipiac, that's a left-leaning poll, or left-leaning pollster. Harvard, Harris, right? Left-leaning pollster. They're all showing you, they're all showing you the same results. They're all showing you the same results. Democrats are either A, unpopular. Could you imagine having an 18 % approval rating and thinking you're doing a good job? Could you imagine? I mean, I get it. You know, political capital, and you don't want to sit there and admit you're doing something wrong and admit defeat look weak. But, I mean, when your approval rating is at 18%, you might want to change things up a little bit.

19:50You may want to make a little adjustment at halftime, right? It's like the New York Jets. So you have, like, two yards of total offense in the first half. You might want to do something different, Aaron Glenn. Again, as a long-suffering Jets fan, it pains me to bring up the fact that this team is perpetually a disaster. 18 % approval rating. You've got this poll from Harvard-Harris of a majority of Americans. The Democrats are like, no, we love TDS. But the rest of us, right, nearly two-thirds of us are saying, hey, you should probably stop with that TDS stuff and just let Trump do what he's going to do.

20:23and if it's going to be an issue and if it's such a bad thing, we'll all find out. You'll be right and we'll reward you. I won't, but we'll reward you with our votes and our support. So, you know, and I know people say, again, the polling is fake and we can't trust the polls, but these issue polls to me are extremely valuable because it allows you to get a pulse. It allows you to get a pulse. It allows you to feel the heartbeat of where the country is. It allows you to feel the sentiment of where the country is and how very crucial voting blocks are feeling at any point in time. And when you have nearly two-thirds of Americans polled, 60 to 40, right?

21:07I mean, a 20-point margin. It's not like, oh, it's well within the margin of error. You know, majority, technically. No, 60-40 saying the Democrats should stop with the TDS and just let Trump do what he's going to do. After all, we voted for this last year, didn't we? In 2024. We voted for the agenda. It's time for the Democrats to allow Trump to enact his agenda. And it's not just me saying it. It's an overwhelming majority of Americans who are saying it. Now, we're going to get to a little bit more polling in just a second That came out of Turning Point USA's America Fest Which again, we talk about polling It gives us the sentiment It gives us a little bit of an indicator on how people are feeling And the Turning Point poll, we talk about young people Very young, beautiful people Young people and how they're feeling, what they want to see That's the future of the country So we might want to pay attention to what they're saying And this poll about immigration is bad for the Democrats But before we do that, I want to get to a word from our friends over at Helix.

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24:0190 % of AmericaFest attendees want to halt all A-L-L, immigration, to the United States. 90%. Nine in 10 attendees of Turning Point USA's AmericaFest said that they want to halt all immigration, both illegal and legal, to the United States. The straw poll, which was conducted at the first AmericaFest since TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk was assassinated in September, asked attendees, quote, would you support a moratorium on new immigration into the United States? About nine in 10 attendees who are overwhelmingly young conservatives, that's important, said they support an immigration moratorium, while just 10.5 % of attendees said they disagreed.

24:49The straw poll also asked attendees what the biggest threats are facing the United States. The number one threat ranked by attendees was radical Islam. By the way, appropriate. Appropriate. It's a huge problem in our country, which has made its way into American communities, mostly through immigration. You know, we had to hear from Joe Biden and the Democrat Party that, oh, you know, the borders open. We owe it to the rest of the world. They have to come in here. They're just looking for a better life. If you don't think that these people who want to do us harm, that they're not going to stare at a wide open border and go, that's a good opportunity to go infiltrate the United States of America.

25:31Of course they are. 18 ,000 of them are in the country now, according to the Department of Homeland Security. And you've got the FBI. They're doing a good job, by the way. Deputy Director, Director Patel, Deputy Director Bongino, only for a limited time now, right? following radical Islam as the biggest threat where communism and mass migration, the straw poll found. Radical Islam and mass migration essentially going hand in hand. And by the way, communism and Marxism too. Because it's like this new brand of Islamo-Marxism. You know, you see what Zoran Mamdani is doing in New York City. It's that Islamo-Marxist kind of blend that they've put together.

26:10I would say it's pretty accurate. Radical Islam, the number one threat to America is a testament to Charlie Kirk, according to Blake Neff on X, who was deeply concerned with that topic in the final months of his life. Very few people were concerned about America's low birth rate though. And that's a topic of conversation people should be concerned about as well. By the way, for all of the internet haters out there who like to complain about Israel and all of this, foreign influence operations, which I guess would be, you know, oh, AIPAC, everything is AIPAC. Everything, if it rains, it was AIPAC.

26:44Like, no, it rained. Well, how do you know the falling water wasn't an APEC-SYOP? Because rain happens. That's how I know. Jewish water. Jewish water falling from the sky. Foreign influence operations ranked 14th out of 17 issues. So take that for what it's worth. And that's a straw poll, Turning Point USA, Young Conservatives. So there's this narrative that's going around right now. But yeah, it's for another day. Nine out of 10 say that all immigration should be halted. And, you know, maybe a year or two ago, I might have looked at that and said, we don't need to halt all of it. We can still let legal immigrants come in.

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27:22But I've reached the point of, you know, the process now where I say, you know, I kind of think we're full, right? The United States, we're full. There's like 10 or 20 or 30 or 40 million illegal aliens in our country. You know, people who shouldn't be here, they have no legal right to be here. You've got the whole Somali situation going on in Minnesota Nine, could you believe this? Nine billion dollars of alleged fraud That these Somalis, you know, took part in In Minnesota, nine billion dollars They looted the federal Medicaid program They distributed all these funds And federal Medicaid program to the state of Minnesota Nine billion dollars And look, I'm one of these people I don't love social programs.

28:11I'm not into the whole, you know, tax and give it to people and all this. Our social programs in this country were designed to help American citizens who are down on their luck having a hard time. I know some people who may have been on these programs for a little bit. And they needed a hand up, not a handout. Right? They needed a hand up, not a handout. out. These programs are not designed to support the lives of refugees that pour into our country from third world, you know, assholes, for lack of a better term. And Trump calls them that and they go nuts when he calls them, how dare you? Well, if they, if it wasn't an asshole, why'd you leave?

28:48Right? I mean, if it's so good in Somalia, I mean, you could go back, right? Ilhan, some people did something, go back, go back. If it's so bad in the United States. No, they'd never go back. They're not going to leave. They're going to come here. They're going to pillage. They're going to loot this country. That's exactly what they're doing. Now, I'm not saying every immigrant does this. That's not the truth. Okay. But the fact of the matter is, if you walk into a hotel and you beg and you plead and you get on your knees, but I'll clean your toilets and I'll make your beds and I'll cook your meals.

29:22Sorry, I can't give you a room because we have no rooms available. We are full. Now, I'm not saying we need to permanently halt all immigration. But I think for at least the foreseeable future, we need to make it very difficult for people to come into our country. We don't have the space. We just don't. And supply and demand would teach you when you have a finite supply, right? There's a cap on how much housing is available in this country until you build more houses. There's a cap on how much food is available in this country. There's a cap on the availability of health care and resources, hospital beds, emergency rooms, etc.

30:02and it's designed to accommodate a certain amount of people, okay? When you throw 20, 30, 40 million additional people into the equation, you are creating so much more demand. What happens when you create more demand? Price goes up. Cost goes up. Everything goes through the roof. Why are we seeing a massive increase in the cost of living, the cost of homes, the rents are going through the roof now? Why? Because there's so much competition. And golden rule, you want to make the price of something go up? Have government subsidize it. Every single time. Government doesn't subsidize the cost of televisions.

30:42What's happened? You can go to Walmart right now for$150 and walk out of there with a 43-inch television. May not be the best one, but it'll work. You can watch whatever you want to watch on it. Government subsidizes education. Government subsidizes health care. Government subsidizes housing. government subsidizes in many cases, in some cases food. And what are we seeing? We're seeing the cost of those things through the roof. So the golden rule, you want to make the cost of something skyrocket, have government just start printing money, you know, making it rain. Here you go. Free money for you, free money for you and you and you and you as well.

31:18It's like Oprah, you get a subsidy, you get a subsidy, you get, but the subsidy doesn't do anything. A, A, the money's basically not real. And B, what the government does at that point in time is they basically set the floor of the market. Hey, this is what it's going to cost at minimum. You know, you have an apartment building, let's say with, I don't know, 100 units in it, right? One tenant, one landlord owns the entire building, 100 units, and he blocks off 10 of them for affordable housing, right? Let's say he's charging everybody in that building $600 a month for an identical unit, 600 bucks a month, one bedroom apartment, 100 units in the building.

31:5710 of those units are now earmarked for affordable housing. And the government decides, we're going to give you$1 ,000 if you're getting your housing subsidized. We're going to give you$1 ,000 to spend on housing. Guess what the cost of that unit now is in that building? $1 ,000. Why? Because the government's giving people free money. And if they price out somebody who's not getting their apartment subsidized, They know the government will just subsidize it with somebody else and they'll get that thousand from the government. Don't you see how this is a problem? Healthcare, same deal. And we'll touch on that in a second, you know, with the shutdown looming.

32:34You want to make the cost of something go through the roof? Government subsidizes it. We don't have the space. We don't have the availability. We're full. And so 90%, 90 % of these young conservatives want a moratorium on immigration. and I have to agree with them. I have to agree with them. We are full. We cannot take anybody right now. Maybe after some deportations, if we've got some room, maybe we can take you then. But for now, uh-uh, we're full. I'm sorry, but you're going to have to try again later. All right, quick break, and then we're going to have some fun at the expense of Chuck Todd.

33:13We're going to have some fun at the expense of Bernie Sanders. Ooh, I love making fun of Bernie. I don't think the Bongino army has heard that I dabble in Bernie Sanders. You do dabble. I dabble. I dabble. We'll see what happens. And of course, how about the announcement of the Trump class warship? The greatest warships in the history of the world. You know, they call me a pirate king, so we'll talk about it. But first, a word from our friends over at American Financing. Folks, the Fed dropped rates for the fourth time. And if you're a homeowner, you should call American Financing today. You could be saving real money every month.

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36:39Let's talk about this January 30th deadline, shall we? It looks like the Democrats are once again getting ready to shut the government down. And I have been a staunch defender of the filibuster and my defense is starting to wear out. You know, oh, but if the Democrats get it and there's no filibuster, they're going to pack the, they're going to do it anyway. They're going to do it anyway. We might as well just end this thing on our terms because we just showed you, 62 % of Democrats believe that they should just obstruct because they don't like Donald Trump, right? They should just obstruct Donald Trump's agenda, obstruct what he wants to do, get in the way of governing instead of taking that wait and see approach.

37:25January 30th is on the horizon. It's just over a month away. And we may have another government shutdown on our hands about the same thing that it was about the last go around. The Obamacare subsidies and specifically, you know, they want to make sure that the illegal aliens get those subsidies too, which by the way was happening. You look at states like New York, you look at states like California, a lot of other blue states around the country, Minnesota, cough, cough, the Somali problem, where you have federal matching funds coming out of the Medicaid program, right? And the Medicare program, the states that are giving illegal aliens healthcare are being reimbursed by the federal government.

38:05So yes, the federal government through the Affordable Care Act, through Medicaid, Medicare, is footing the bill for illegal aliens to get taxpayer-funded did healthcare. But I have a question that nobody on the left has found a way to answer. Okay. And this is the old, you know, the Dan Bongino money ball theory, right? If he's such a good hitter, how come he doesn't hit good, right? If he's such a good hitter, why doesn't he hit good? If the Affordable Care Act made healthcare affordable, then why is healthcare unaffordable? It's really a simple question, right? You have these COVID era subsidies that were put in place during the pandemic, right?

38:53And the Democrats designed them to expire. I like to compare it to when you feel kind of cruddy, maybe you have a cold, right? You go to your pharmacy, CVS, Walgreens, wherever you go, get a little day quill. Yeah, your cold is gone in about five to seven days if you're lucky. If you're me, it's gone in about four months. but once your cold is gone, do you keep chugging DayQuil? Do you like the way it tastes? Is it something that you just enjoy, right? So you go, you pick up your DayQuil, you pick up your cold meds, your cold is gone. You don't keep taking your cough and cold medication if you don't have a cough and cold, right?

39:33So if these COVID era subsidies were for the COVID era and the COVID era is over, then there should be no reason to have the subsidies anymore, right? I would think so. I would say that's fair. And it shouldn't be a problem, right? It shouldn't be an issue because we would just go back to the original Affordable Care Act subsidies. After all, the Affordable Care Act should make healthcare affordable. That's the name, Affordable Care Act. But we're being told now that if you take away the enhanced subsidies for the Affordable Care Act, that health care would not be affordable anymore. That's the unaffordable care act, as Donald Trump likes to call it.

40:17So, I mean, a couple of weeks ago when the government was reopened, Bernie Sanders was on the floor and he was just, you know, he was doing what he normally does. And he's waving his finger. It's like he's on puppet strings sometimes. But he was like, our health care system is broken. And I'm like, bro, Bernie, it's your system. You put this system in place. The Democrats, it was a 100 % Democrat thing. Republicans didn't vote for the ACA, for Obamacare. Our healthcare system, people are going to die. People are going to, how do we get there? First of all, people are going to die. This is the Democrats' baby.

41:01This is Obama's, you know, his like big time piece of legislation. This is his signature piece of legislation, Obamacare. You're telling me that the Affordable Care Act didn't solve the health care problem, didn't solve the affordability crisis in the health care industry? Well, I'll tell you, we told you one of the golden rules, right? If you want to make the cost of something skyrocket, If you want to make the cost of something skyrocket, have government subsidize it. So look, the Republicans are trying to offer kind of an alternative to this now, where instead of the money going directly to the insurance companies, the money goes to the people.

41:43Now, if it was up to me and I could wave a magic wand, which I wish I had, I don't have a magic wand, but if I could wave a magic wand, I would take government out of healthcare. I don't believe government belongs in healthcare. Why don't we treat healthcare like we're treating education? Leave it up to the states. It's not listed in the Constitution as one of the enumerated powers. That is something that the states should be handling at the state level. Get the federal government out of health care. But seeing as how that's not the case right now, the Affordable Care Act is in place, why are we sending all of these subsidies directly to the insurance companies?

42:17You know, Senator Marsha Blackburn, who's running for governor here in the state of Tennessee, came out and said there's actually been a ton of fraudulent enrollments in healthcare plans on the healthcare.gov marketplace where there are people who are enrolled in plans, let's say with UnitedHealthcare, okay, that they either A, don't know that they're enrolled or B, aren't actually enrolled at all. Those insurance companies are just getting money, free money for these people who aren't even technically, they may not exist, they may not want to be enrolled, they may not know that they're enrolled, but these insurance companies are getting free money.

42:53Why not give the money directly to the people? Get rid of the healthcare.gov marketplace and let the people choose which company they want to buy health insurance from. You know what happens if you do that? Take a look at your cell phone, right? How many times do you see these commercials? If you switch to so-and-so, we'll give you this, that, and the other. We'll give you an introductory deal, cable, internet, whatever it is. I used to sell DirecTV. You know, we would have a promotional rate for two years. And we would add some premium channels and the NFL Sunday ticket and all of these things.

43:24We would add value to win over the business from the consumer. That's exactly what will happen if you get the money directly to the hands of the people. You will have these insurance companies, instead of feeling like they are entitled to your business, instead of feeling like, well, you know, we're on the healthcare marketplace, so we have a leg up on some of these other companies, they will have to compete with everybody who's offering health insurance across the United States. You should be allowed to sell and purchase health care across state lines. The more competition that you have, the lower the cost will be.

44:02The CBO, which got tariffs completely wrong, says that the Republican-led health care plan would save upwards of$30 billion with a B for the U.S. taxpayer and lower health care premiums by 11%. And I believe that's low-balling it. I believe that's low-balling it. Look, I want government out of healthcare, but if they're going to be involved, give the money directly to the people. Give the money directly to the people and let the people spend it where they want and make these insurance companies have to compete for our business. Make them earn it instead of them being entitled to your business because they're listed in the healthcare exchange.

44:45January 30th is coming up and it is going to be very interesting to see if the government shuts down again or if John Thune decides that he's going to maybe push to nuke the filibuster you have a couple of Republicans Mark Wayne Mullen is now on board with this idea Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin is on board with this idea he's like, John Thune came out and said, oh, you know we don't know if the Democrats are going to play ball well, you know what? Cut them out of the process at this point. You know what they want to do. We just talked about that poll where the majority of their party believes obstructing is the right thing to do.

45:22That's it. Cut them out of the process. They want to participate after that. Good. If not, we don't need you. We don't need you. Of course, it's going to rely on, we have to rely on Republicans to actually do their job, which is, you know, a shot in the dark as well. But January 30th is on the horizon with regards to a potential second government shutdown. And you know, the mainstream media is going to, they're going to flip out over it, right? The first go around, we had the sombreros. They went around, Hakeem Jeffries, the whole nine yards. El Hakeem, we called him El Hakeem. And he was horrible.

45:55El Jefe, but he's not El Jefe. El Jefe means the boss. He's not the boss of anything. And he has a small sombrero and a small teepee. And he's just a very stupid person, I have to say. And he's very embarrassed about it. And he doesn't like to talk about it. But the media was, you know, they were trying to blame Republicans for it. We had the filibuster. How ironic is it now that Chuck Todd was out there whining, moaning about how the media has lost trust, how the media has, you know, and it's like, oh, it's unfair, these internet algorithms. It's not that. It's you. Let's play this clip of Chuck Todd groveling, complaining that the media has lost credibility.

46:38Let's roll that. I always say I'm as good as the sources I have, not necessarily the sources I want at times, to borrow a phrase from the late Donald Rumsfeld. Meaning if you're getting untrustworthy sources, you may be reporting untrustworthy information, right? You get my drift here. And so I think that the collapse of trust in overall institutions, the media in some ways is a reflection of that distrust. And so that we may be reporting what the quote unquote experts tell us. But if the public doesn't trust those experts and then we in the media are quoting those experts, they don't trust us, too.

47:16It's sort of across the board. And what you have now, I would argue, Tom, is essentially the left doesn't trust the media now and the right doesn't trust the media. We are in this, you know, siloed world. I put the blame on big tech and algorithms. Puts the blame on big tech and algorithms. No, no, no, no. I think the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of people like Chuck Todd. This is from the the great, highly, highly respected, extremely talented Mazemore on X. A little side by side. Chuck Todd talking about the Hunter Biden laptop and then wagging his finger and you spread misinformation.

47:56Yeah, let's roll that one. Chuck Todd passing the buck here. Instead of Roger Stone and WikiLeaks, it's Rudy Giuliani and some computer guy in Delaware. So this didn't work. So he'll try another planted story or another, you know, Russian use some other discredited Russian propaganda. and for those of you spreading misinformation, shame on you. Shame on you. I don't know how some of you sleep at night who are doing this for a living on television. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The reason why I'm giggling, okay, is because you heard him in the first clip saying, well, I'm only as good as my sources. Yeah.

48:40You want to know who his, remember this? You want to know who his sources were? Pencilneck. Watermelonhead. Bug eyes. It's an engineering marvel. You look at that tiny little neck. It's holding up that big head. Shifty Schiff, right? He's a Schiff head. We call him a Schiff head. Schiff for brains, right? Think about it. Well, that was Chuck Todd's source during Russiagate. He's only as good as the sources that he has. Your source was Adam Schiff. So you suck. Play this one from Chuck Todd. I got to ask you something that you said also to me on Sunday. is that you took you thought that at the time former director of national intelligence, James Clapper, was too definitive when he said no evidence of collusion at the time that he served through January, essentially January 20th of this year.

49:34What basis can you feel confident saying that that the director of national intelligence that the director of national intelligence oversold something? Well, look, I don't think it was deliberate on the director's part. But all I can tell you is reviewing the evidence that I have, I don't think you can conclude that at all. Far from it. But you admit all you have right now is a circumstantial case. Actually, no, Chuck. I can tell you that the case is more than that. And I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now. So, again, I think you have seen direct evidence of collusion.

50:16I don't want to go into specifics, but I will say that there is evidence that is not circumstantial and and is very much worthy of investigation. So that is what we ought to do. Not circumstantial, huh? Chuck Todd, we're only as good as the sources, but it's the Internet's fault that the media has lost trust. Yeah, it's a bunch of bull. You know what I'm doing? It's sign language. That's not sign language. Yes, actually, but it is for me. Right. Bull. and then on the backside of the bull, you have an issue. Okay? Hockey. There you go. Operation Tootsie Roll, we called it, right? When crooked Joe Biden went in front of the Pope.

50:55You're not supposed to do that. But he did it at the Vatican. No good. Not a good thing to do. Why is the mainstream media losing credibility? We got one more. It's Rachel. I call her Rachel Mad Cow. You look at her. And I haven't seen her and Stephen Colbert in the same room. They are the same person. Just like Jim Acosta and Rosie O'Donnell. They look like the same person with the submarine porthole glasses. Remember this? The vaccine, it stops the virus. What a load of nonsense that was. Roll this from Rachel Madcow, okay? This is her telling you that with every vaccinated person, the COVID virus and transmission stops so we will not have that problem.

51:39Roll it. It means that instead of the vaccine being able, excuse me, It means for instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person to person, spreading and spreading, sickening some of them, but not all of them. And the ones that it doesn't sicken don't know they have it. And then they give it to even more people because they didn't recognize they were right. Instead of the virus being able to hop from person to person to person, potentially mutating and becoming more virulent and drug resistant along the way. Now we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person.

52:12A vaccinated person gets exposed to the virus. The virus does not infect them. The virus cannot then use that person to go anywhere else. It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to go get more people. That aged well. That aged like gas station sushi. That aged like, oh my God, that aged like milk. and milk for what you understand doesn't age well unless you're trying to make cheese then milk ages beautifully I mean what that aged about as well as Martha Raddatz's face the talking catchers met right does that make any sense I remember when the whole vaccine thing was going on I was like wait a minute so you mean to tell me that like if I get this vaccine which we don't know anything about and I come in contact with the virus the virus like knows it can't What, I don't, if I cough, I can't get anyone.

53:11How does that work? And she believed that? And even worse, there were people who believed that. So when Chuck Todd wants to say, oh, the algorithms and the internet. No, it's you, it's you. Go get a mirror, okay? Take a look in it. The face that you see staring back at you, which is a very ugly face, you look at it. The face that you see looking back at you in the mirror, that's the person to blame for the fact that your institutions aren't trusted anymore? How about the fact that Anthony Fauci and the hardcore left during 2020 wanted you to believe that some dude's old pair of boxers, right, that you could buy in Costco, were 25 cents a sheet, and you'd get like 100 of them, okay, could stop this super deadly scary pandemic.

53:59Give me a break. That's why the institutions and the trust in those institutions has been eroded, because you sold us a load of nonsense and told us blindly trust the experts. Well, when the experts are telling me things that don't make sense, I don't trust them. Sorry. And I was in New York for all this and we had to deal with the love gov, Andrew Cuomo. We don't want to put people on ventilators. Andrew Cuomo, who declared randomly, buffalo wings didn't count as food, but soup did in order to keep people out of the bars. Just insane. These people are nuts and they only have themselves to blame for the fact that other people are figuring out that they're nuts.

54:45Okay, finally. We've had these stories about these. I could not believe it when I heard about it a couple of weeks ago. What? These seized tankers. I was like, so like where do we get the authority to just take another country's ship? You know, and I could do that. They say speak softly but carry a big stick, right? and I have the biggest stick. You know that. And they call me King Donald with the biggest and most beautiful scepter the world has ever seen. Everybody knows about it. But I looked into this and so there are processes. If you sanction an oil tanker and then they go ahead and violate US sanction laws like that first one, they said they were using the US financial system.

55:25The tanker can be seized. I said, you know, this is interesting. And then we did it again a couple of days ago. They took another one and that is a third one that we're going after and I'm just going, alright, the President of the United States is a pirate. I love this. I think it's great. And I don't mean that in a bad way. I love pirates. But I'm just sitting there thinking, should we lean into this? It's the perfect time to bring back sea shanties. Sea shanties. Soon may the Wellerman come to bring us sugar and tea and rum. What would you do with a drunken sailor? Right? You put him in the brig until he's sober.

56:01I know all the sea shanties. And by the way, They call me the Pirate King. Check this out, right? They call me the Pirate King. That's it. The Pirate King is here. We have our own fleet. I got along very well with, they called him Blackbeard. You're not allowed to say that. I call him Beard of Color, right? Think about it. And I got along well with him. Captain Kidd got along well with him too. And we're going to make you walk the plank if you mess around. You know, we say F around and find out. We're going to make you walk the plank. and I have the biggest plank the world has ever seen. We're not going to make Chris Christie walk the plank.

56:37He's going to break the plank. We're going to slowly lower him into the water if we have to throw him overboard. We have to be careful because you throw him too hard, it's going to create what's called a tsunami and you don't want to deal with that. But the pirate king is here. Avast ye scurvy dogs. You're scurvy dogs, very scurvy. Swab the poop deck. Crooked Joe Biden knows a thing or two about the poop deck. he treated the vatican like the poop deck it was the only time the pope ever uttered the words holy sugar honey iced tea and i said to him mr pope you're not supposed to say that he said sir mr pope you're not supposed to say that the pirate king what do you think what do you think that's good i like that hoist the colors mateys yo-ho yo-ho a pirate's life for me think about it all right we're coming up on the end of this one guys and gals i hope you had a good time and i hope you have a very merry christmas as uh as we close in on uh on the most wonderful time of the year it's the most beautiful time of the year you know i love the fact that the pirate king is now he's got his own battleships named after him now the trump class warship and the the speech that he gave he was like it's the big i can't and i love trump i cannot count how many times he said It's the biggest, the fastest, the strongest, the greatest.

57:55Even the Navy secretary was like, yeah, these ships are going to be the best, top of their class, and the best looking. It's like Trump was probably elbowing him. Make sure you say they look nice, right? Make sure you say they look nice. I really appreciate the opportunity on behalf of the whole Silverlock team that gave this opportunity to me. You know, I told you the Dan Bongino origin story, my first time filling in for Vince a couple of years ago. So it means the world to be able to be doing this for you, with you. And it kind of is a full circle moment for me, right? Sitting on the Tappan Zee Bridge in 2018.

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