The Choice Is Clear! (Ep. 2606)

30 Sep 2026 · 1 h 34 min · 42 chapters

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In short

Dan Bongino argues the “choice is clear” in the upcoming midterms: voters must prioritize national security and reject what he portrays as left-wing chaos, misinformation, and irrational deterrence assumptions. He also discusses (1) his interview clips from Sean Hannity about Iran, claiming the risk of inaction was grave due to nuclear, cyber, and assassination threats; (2) a reported attempted hijacking on a flight to Tel Aviv, which he frames as evidence that pilots/crew must fight immediately; and (3) contrast messaging for elections using examples of what he calls extreme or inconsistent Democratic positions.

Guest(s)

Dr. Peter McCullough (scheduled for the end of the show). Background: a physician and prominent COVID-era critic of government/WHO and hospital responses; Bongino says he warned against vaccine promises and defended ivermectin, and was banned from YouTube for refusing to comply with mask/vaccine narratives.

Key claims

Iran actions were necessary because Iran is not deterred by mutually assured destruction; cyber attacks could be cheap and catastrophic; lethal plotting/assassination attempts could trigger wider war. In the hijacking case, crew/passengers subduing the attacker prevented disaster. Bongino also claims mainstream media lies and invents narratives.

Notable examples

Hannity clips; the “Archduke Ferdinand” analogy; the Tel Aviv flight incident (co-pilot allegedly stabbed the captain; cockpit door breached; blood shown); a Portland interview advocating drug use for children; and political contrast ads targeting Florida Democrat David Jolly and Michigan Democrat Abdul El-Sayed.

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Chapters

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Reflecting on COVID and Truth Tellers

0:45 to 1:59

Discussion on Dr. Peter McCullough's role during COVID and challenges faced.

“Remember the COVID, the total complete government, World Health Organization, healthcare, medicine meltdown, hospital meltdown during COVID?”

Personal Experience with Medicare

1:59 to 3:11

Dan shares his family's experience with Medicare and recommends Chapter.

“beginning of the show, I got to get this out there.”

Personal Experience with Medicare

3:49 to 4:59

Dan shares his family's experience with Medicare and recommends Chapter.

“Every time you go to the grocery store to buy the same items you always buy, it costs more.”

Discussion on Midterm Choices

4:59 to 5:46

Dan discusses binary choices in elections and the current political landscape.

“Folks, last night I was on Sean Hannity's show.”

Iranian Threat and National Security

5:46 to 8:41

Analysis of the Iranian threat and its potential implications for U.S. security.

“It's a tough sacrifice to make for all of us.”

The Economic Outlook and Political Promises

8:41 to 14:01

Discussion on future economic policies and the impact of socialism on promises.

“Regional conflict turned into a world conflict, which turns into one of the most destructive events in human history, World War I.”

Analyzing Trump's Record

14:01 to 16:40

Discussion of Trump's record and the implications for the upcoming election.

“I've already told you, I think the Trump two-year record is one for the history books.”

Personal Anecdotes and Economic Insights

16:41 to 19:15

Personal stories that illustrate economic conditions and choices facing Americans.

“I'm not mad at anyone who's upset about, you know, the spike in gas prices.”

Parodying Portland's Drug Policies

19:16 to 22:25

A satirical discussion on drug policies and societal views toward drug use.

“This is one of the craziest interviews I've ever seen.”

Consequences of Liberal Policies

22:26 to 24:25

Exploration of the potential consequences of liberal governance on society.

“in the woods with a, and we should do it like the Indians do.”
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Consequences of Liberal Policies

24:26 to 26:29

Exploration of the potential consequences of liberal governance on society.

“You probably woke up to it this morning like I did.”

Reported Terror Incident on Flight

26:44 to 28:00

Discussion and analysis of a recent attempted hijacking involving a flight.

“I'm gonna cover this as the information is still emerging, the Bongino rule.”

Averted Terrorist Attack: What Happened?

28:00 to 29:00

Learn about the recent incident on a plane where the co-pilot attempted to take control, highlighting national security concerns.

“The whole plane, everyone's safe and sound except for the pilot.”

The Importance of National Security

29:00 to 30:20

Explore the significance of prioritizing national security over other issues as highlighted by recent events.

“for co-pilots is currently being questioned.”

Fighting Back in Crisis Situations

30:20 to 31:00

Understand the necessity of taking action in violent scenarios to ensure safety and survival.

“The old hostage negotiation, all that, you can throw all of that crap out the window.”

The Nature of Terrorist Threats

31:00 to 31:30

Analyze the mindset of terrorists and the irrationality of their actions in the context of national security.

“They don't care about mutually assured destruction.”

Government Efficiency Under Trump

31:30 to 33:00

Discuss the improvements in government efficiency and the impact of business experience on governance.

“Folks, the clinical TDS has gotten just insane, too, before the election.”

The Democrats' Response to Government Changes

33:00 to 35:00

Examine how Democrats react to improvements in government efficiency and their overall stance on big government.

“Here was Rubio yesterday, and it appears you'd think there'd be resounding praise for the Trump administration.”

Media Trust Issues

35:00 to 36:40

Explore the decline in trust towards the media and its implications for public perception and democracy.

“And you cannot rely on the media, the left-wing lunatic media, to give you any semblance of truth whatsoever to guide you in this election.”

Debunking Media Narratives

36:40 to 38:00

Learn about the false narratives propagated by the media regarding political figures and events.

“FBI's Andrew Bailey blasts his exit lies as he reveals real reason he's leaving Angie, which is exactly what he said.”

The Impact of Media on Elections

38:00 to 40:00

Analyze how media influence shapes voters' perceptions and decisions in elections.

“A mere 22 % of Republicans trust the press versus half of them.”

Objective Truth vs. Subjective Narratives

40:00 to 42:00

Discuss the ongoing battle between objective truth and subjective narratives in shaping society.

“Because folks, the left has been at war with objective truth for a long time.”

Media Misinformation and the FBI's Most Wanted List

42:01 to 44:32

Discussing misinformation in the media and the FBI's practices with the most wanted list.

“Don't trust anything you see from these people.”

Political Advertising and Election Strategies

44:33 to 46:06

Analyzing effective political advertising and the importance of contrasting candidates.

“When I see a good ad, I want to put it out there.”

David Jolly: A Political Chameleon

46:07 to 48:28

Examining the political opportunism of David Jolly and his shifting stances.

“showing you in David Jolly's own words exactly what I said.”

Democrats and Their Alleged Ties to Terrorism

48:29 to 51:17

Claiming some Democrats' sympathies toward terrorism and the implications for America.

“heart of hearts, I believe there are candidates running right now, and a lot of them, who are terrorist sympathizers.”

Current Economic Climate and Inflation Trends

51:18 to 54:14

Discussing recent inflation data and the economic situation compared to prior years.

“Here's a post by David Chapman about the Harvard-Harris poll just came in.”

The Fourth Industrial Revolution

54:15 to 57:20

Exploring the concept of the fourth industrial revolution and its potential benefits.

“Because spending is still relatively high.”

Elon Musk and the Future of AI

57:20 to 59:20

Explores Elon Musk's perspective on AI and its potential impact on economy and society.

“folks you are living through the fourth industrial revolution there is no question about it None.”

The Era of Abundance

59:20 to 1:01:20

Discusses the potential for AI to create an era of abundance and eradicate poverty.

“I haven't done trillions of dollars of business like he has, but I promise you, Elon's got street cred in the space.”

Introduction to Dr. Peter McCullough

1:01:20 to 1:02:30

Introduces Dr. Peter McCullough, highlighting his expertise and upcoming interview.

“the country in the right direction and move in various areas.”

Introduction to Dr. Peter McCullough

1:02:35 to 1:05:05

Introduces Dr. Peter McCullough, highlighting his expertise and upcoming interview.

“Guy, can you get Kim in here to draw us a Fat Barney, please?”

Dr. McCullough on COVID Vaccines

1:05:15 to 1:10:00

Discussion with Dr. McCullough on COVID vaccines, their effects, and public health implications.

“The product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, prevent any disease.”

Understanding Vaccine Reactions and Spike Protein

1:10:00 to 1:13:20

Learn about vaccine reactions, treatments for adverse effects, and the role of spike proteins.

“Or if there are genetic predispositions to blood clotting, then boom, we get a vaccine blood clot.”

The Dangers of Persistent Spike Proteins

1:13:20 to 1:16:40

Discover the implications of spike protein persistence in the body and its health risks.

“They probably understand the spike protein.”

mRNA Technology and Cancer Treatment Potential

1:16:40 to 1:20:00

Examine the potential uses of mRNA technology for cancer treatments and associated risks.

“We do know, by the way, it probably comes out in sweat, Dan.”

COVID-19 Hospital Treatment Failures

1:20:00 to 1:23:20

Analyze the shortcomings in hospital management during the COVID-19 pandemic and their fatal consequences.

“It's going to be part of combination toxic chemotherapy, but I think it's worth a shot in clinical trials.”

Preventable COVID Deaths

1:23:20 to 1:24:01

Stunning statistic reveals that a significant percentage of COVID-19 deaths were preventable.

“And attorney Ralph Lorigo at the Senate hearing said, listen, when he actually had to have court orders to force the doctors to use ivermectin in the hospital, they save lives.”

COVID's Impact on Healthcare Practices

1:24:01 to 1:25:59

Explore the failures in healthcare response during the COVID pandemic and the need for retrospective analysis.

“There is no business service product, government service, whatever in the world, where you don't look at best practices, especially in medicine.”

AI's Role in Future Pandemics

1:26:00 to 1:27:46

Discuss the potential risks of engineered viruses through AI and the need for regulatory control.

“You know, we run the very real risk of COVID on steroids.”

Critique of COVID Safety Measures

1:27:47 to 1:29:38

A critical look at the effectiveness of masks and safety protocols during the pandemic.

“And then AI can be used in the lab for sure.”

Interview with Dr. Peter McCullough

1:29:39 to 1:31:25

An engaging discussion with Dr. McCullough on his experiences and views on medical practices during COVID.

“To make matters worse, though, do you know in the hospital they're still wearing hazmat suits and Pappers?”
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Transcript

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0:02All America, all the time. Sit down, buckle up, and get ready for the Dan Bongino Show. Thanks, Dave4990 in the chat. I saw that. Dan is always on time. Well, not always, but we do try. If we are not on time for the show at 10 a.m. Eastern Time live every day, like we are today, or 10.01, sometimes you're just waiting on Rumble to get back to you. you know, there's a link and all that stuff. If we're not on time, I promise you, it's always for a reason, correct guys? It's never because I'm like not here. It's always because something popped last minute and I want to make sure I get it to you and I want it done right.

0:40So thanks for the compliment. Hey, I have an absolute freaking banger of a show for you today. Do you all in the chat remember Dr. Peter McCullough? Remember the COVID, the total complete government, World Health Organization, healthcare, medicine meltdown, hospital meltdown during COVID? Of course you do. I mean, unless you were just, you know, born a couple of years ago. Remember that debacle? There were very few truth tellers during COVID who were willing to take the risk. I'm not going to take any lectures. I was banned from YouTube, costing me a fortune and a huge number of my audience members on YouTube because I refused to bend the knee.

1:19They said, stop talking about masks not working. I said, double barrel. I'm going to talk about it and they said okay you're banned he was with me for that debacle and i just refused to listen to them i wasn't going to tell you the truth well dr mccullough was another one warning people that listen a lot of these promises being made about the vaccine and others and a lot of the attacks on ivermectin horse paste and all this other crap are fake he's back today in what i promise you is going to be an eye-opening interview some of you still have concerns took the vax like what do i still got these spike proteins what's the deal with that is there anything I can do.

1:55So we've got a solid interview at the end of today's show. I got that. And just in the beginning of the show, I got to get this out there. If you're a regular P1 listener, you know this to be true. I don't often use my own appearances on cable news on the show because it's usually pretty dumb because I can just say it again myself. However, I was on a freaking roll last night on Hannity and got about a thousand texts, slight hyperbole, but not much from people like, dude, That is the choice. So I want to just play for you snippets of what happened on Hannah. You haven't gotten that much feedback on a cable news appearance in a long time.

2:32I got that and a whole lot more, of course. A really horrific incident last night on a flight to Tel Aviv. We'll get to that, a whole bunch of stuff. Folks, listen, I'm going to get personal for a second. When you've got a Medicare question for your families, who do you actually call? I watched my own family members go through this. They needed someone to explain the plan they had, see if they could get better coverage. But with Medicare, any discussion usually comes with a sales pitch. That's why I was happy to take on board and recommend Chapter to my own family. And I'll do the same with you.

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4:58Thanks, American Financing. Big, stacked, loaded show today. Dr. Peter McCullough coming up. Folks, last night I was on Sean Hannity's show. I'm always a pleasure to be there. I love Sean. He's the godfather of conservative TV and radio. Listen, he's always been good to me. Had me on last night. And he, listen, the midterms are coming up. We've got a choice to make. It's a binary choice. I wish, I can't say this enough, there were, you know, 10 flourishing parties that we could go out there and even pluralities at times. I mean, a parliamentary system is not the greatest thing, but it would even pull people over to one side.

5:39We have a two party system for better or for worse. It's what we're stuck with. I live in the world as it is, not the world as I want it to be. It's a tough sacrifice to make for all of us. We wish we lived in utopia, but we don't. Sean asked me last night about the Iranian threat. Listen, it's not some stupid flex. Who the hell cares? I was proud to serve you as your your deputy director at the FBI's greatest job of my life. but it was an eye opener. I had been out of federal law enforcement for a little bit of time and I as a secret service agent was not in on the president's daily brief. The president's daily brief is the greatest newspaper in the world.

6:13You see things the rest of the public doesn't. When I was interviewing with Sean on his podcast, he said to me, are you comfortable with the decisions on Iran? I said, listen, I know they're not going to be popular with everyone. I understand that but the risk of inaction is grave. I described that to him last night. I don't know if I've said this on the air before, but it's important. I want you to listen to the three things, because when you hear about the Iranian threat, the only thing you hear people talking about who haven't read the entire portfolio, the only thing you hear about is the nuclear threat, which was very real.

6:44They were going to rebuild it and potentially quickly if they could, if we didn't stop them. But there were two other things that are really important that could start a regional or world war. I mentioned them last night. I just want you to keep this in mind. I know these decisions aren't popular, but they weren't necessary. Check this out. I like the fact that our kids won't have to worry about a nuclear-armed Iran. I'm glad you constantly bring that up because it's true. I had the privilege of working for President Trump, and you get the president's daily brief. And although I can't elaborate on some of the specifics, speaking in generalities, the Iranian issue had to be dealt with or your gas prices would have been$8 and$10 a gallon.

7:24And just to add to that, it wasn't just the nuclear threat. Again, speaking as generally as I can, there were other threats out there that people in the USIC, the US intelligence community, they're not going to give you all the details because we can't. It would burn sources. But you had things like cyber attacks, given the rapid advancements in artificial intelligence that we've seen, that the Iranians don't care. Like whether their cyber grid got wiped out or not, they don't care. They're not interested in deterrence by mutually assured destruction. They don't care if everyone's destroyed as long as you're destroyed first.

8:01It was also one more thing, Sean. It was not just a nuclear threat and attacks on our grid. It was also the potential for lethal plotting. The assassination attempts over and over and over again had the potential for massive disruption. I mean, we didn't need another Archduke Ferdinand moment. Now, the liberals, folks in the chat understand where I was going with the Archduke Ferdinand moment. Liberals in the chat and trolls have no idea what that actually means. Put it in Grok or ChatGPT or Claude or whatever, and you'll figure it out. It's a reference, of course, to what started World War I, which was the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand, Austria, Serbia, Bosnians.

8:43Regional conflict turned into a world conflict, which turns into one of the most destructive events in human history, World War I. Folks, a couple of points here. I had not, I think, stated on, this is why I played it again today. And I got another part of this coming up in a second. This is critical you understand this. The risk of inaction by President Trump. We've already spoken about the nuclear threat that's been litigated and still being litigated over and over in the media. Fine. But I want to move on to these other two points. If there is a massive, massive hit on the grid that shuts down power in the Northeast from whatever, from Maine to New York, and that is due to an SI, AI generated cyber hit that knocks out power stations and fries transformers or whatever.

9:32I promise you the left wing media that is criticizing Trump for his decisions on Iran, despite the fact that they don't know what he knows. Right. If that were to happen, they would have his head on a pike. They would be like, look at this loser. He knew about the threat. He didn't do anything. He just wanted to save the midterms. You know, they would be saying that. Dan, why are you so concerned about a cyber threat specifically from Iran? Because, folks, cyber warfare is going to get very cheap very quickly. I could argue it's very cheap now with artificial intelligence. the reason a lot of countries that are enemies or at least opponents of the united states are adversaries china russia and elsewhere they're not our friends the reason they don't do this is because of what's known as mad mutually assured destruction it's the same reason thankfully we haven't had a global thermonuclear war why not countries get pissed off why don't they launch nukes because they know we'll launch nukes and then everybody's dead and they don't want to get dead the iranians are not rational they are not rational they don't that point i made last night i was just telling jasmine she was walking through i need you to tattoo on your brain they don't care if everybody's destroyed the iranians that's what they want as long as they think they're going to meet 72 virgins they don't care listen to me this is not a compliment to them obviously but they don't fear death they think they're going up there for 72 virgins or whatever they've been told they don't care if we hit them with a cyber attack and they hit us as long as we all die that is the asymmetric risk component that liberal media and doomer critics do not understand because they don't know what's in the portfolio of information secondly it's incredible You've had people in the podcast space who claim to be President Trump's friend saying over and over, my gosh, if they're trying to assassinate President Trump, we should like hit them hard.

11:42I'm telling you, they try over. And of this lethal plotting is an endless loop. You think if they were to, God forbid, assassinate President Trump or a major political figure in the United States, that this wouldn't blow up into a massive regional potential world war? I already gave you the example where it's happened. In World War I, it's not just one thing. The risk of inaction was off the charts. It had to be done. And the fact that now the strait is under our control and the Iranians got effed like you wouldn't believe. They tried to blockade it. We blockaded their blockade. Now the oil's coming out, just not the Iranian oil.

12:26Their economy is in shambles. Folks, they have no way out of this. It hasn't been without risk on our side. It hasn't been without some downsides on our side, too. No one's going to tell you otherwise. I'm telling you the risk of inaction was grave. And by the way, to all the, you know, troll, fake bot critics out there and a few living bodies like the Auburn kid almost fell on his face. I'm sorry. Oh, look at you. You're just a war monk. Oh, OK. Sure. Absolutely. Yes, that's that's that's absolutely true. You know, I've advocated. I only ran for office like against most of these. This was not an option.

13:06It was not an option. Secondly, folks, elections are binary choices. Nobody likes two party systems. They don't. I wish there was a good independent who'd run one day and could siphon off votes from both parties on an America, on a better America tomorrow agenda that both sides could agree with. But we'd have Democrats who are crazy, liberals who are crazy, progressives who are crazy. and you've got some fake Folex MAGA people who don't want that. They pretend they do, but they don't. There is a choice. I know everything everywhere all the time is never going to be peachy. I get that. I get that.

13:42It's not going to be, you know, a McDonald's birthday party with orange drink and great burgers when you were kids. That's not what's going to happen. It's the real world. There are problems we have to deal with. But it is not, and by the way, I put out a tweet about this yesterday. This is not me saying, oh, well, choose the better or the worst. I'm not saying that at all. I've already told you, I think the Trump two-year record is one for the history books. Oh, what do you base that on? Gee, I don't know. I'll explain it in this clip. Like, we have actual numbers to back it up. And then today, the inflation number came in, and the inflation number was lower, lower, lower than expected.

14:18I'll play that for you later. But Sean asked me last night, hey, man, give the pitch. You're in an elevator. We got 30-plus days to go. Why one party? Why the Republicans in this midterm election? Well, here it was. Check this out. If they get in touch, describe in detail what you see coming, because I see nothing but, you know, free, free, free, unfulfilled promises in the failure of socialism. What do you see? I'll tell you exactly what they're going to do. I'll use the big areas, the economy, health care, education, the economy. You're going to see a spending blowout like you've never seen before.

14:52They believe in modern monetary theory. Here's what that is. Just print a whole bunch of money and it's not going to have any impact on the economy. We saw that's obviously false with Biden peaking at 9 percent inflation, averaging 5 percent inflation, multiple points ahead of the Trump administration trying to clean up the mess. Health care, you're going to see another massive spending blowout on health care. A move to the Bernie Sanders program, which is going to cancel your private insurance. It's in the bill. Please read it. Education, you're going to see kids forced back in an off school choice program.

15:23Some schools that are working back into a public school system, indoctrinating your kids. You're going to see men in the women's room again. You're going to see a defund the police movement. You're going to see ICE officers doing their job in jail. You're going to see subpoenas to FBI agents and others who just went out and did their jobs and got away from this weaponization crap. You're going to see them up on the Hill. If that's the America you want, it's all about contrast, folks. It's one or the other. It's a binary choice. I wish we had more than two parties. We don't. Those are your choices.

15:51Contrast with the Trump agenda. Closed border. Safest streets you've ever seen. Lowest poverty rates on record. Highest median household income you've ever seen on record. Lowest jobless rate in decades. Those are just the facts. It's one or the other. I think the choice is easy. Why chatting in the chat says I look different on Hannity? It's lighting. That's in a truck. A tiny truck, by the way. It looks big because you got the studio, the TV in the background in the truck. It's not. It's like one of those Amazon delivery vans in Manhattan. So you're like squeezed in there. So the lighting is always different.

16:25I promise you it's the same me for better or for worse. It's tough to make this face look different. Good job, Jackie. By the way, that was Jackie's, you know, stuff she puts on. I just left it on. What the hell? I'm like, I don't know how to do this stuff. I don't know how to do it. Folks, we have a choice. I'm asking a question. I'm not being a jerk. I'm not mad at anyone who's upset about, you know, the spike in gas prices. Why would it be mad? people have real concerns. You know, folks, I grew up middle class. Okay. I can't tell you enough. Like my mom worked at a supermarket. My dad was a plumber and a building inspector.

17:05All right. We grew up above a bar, 64th place in Myrtle Avenue. Go put it in your Apple or Google maps or whatever. I don't even know what it is now, a deli or something that we were up on the second floor. Look at the corner there. That was our apartment. It was not some fine living and dining situation, I promise you. I'm not going to be lectured about anyone about what it was like to went to, you know, I went to city schools. And I went to a state school because I couldn't afford a lot of this stuff. I mean, we barely paid our tuition growing up. Thank God for Sister Jane in St. Pancras took us in this Catholic school and let my mom pay late pretty much all the time, if ever.

17:46Yeah, I know what that's like. I know exactly what it's like. I had, you know, middle class jobs. I stacked shelves in the supermarket. I was a police officer in New York. What do you think they make? $500 ,000 a year? I'm not diminishing your concerns at all. I'm telling you, you've got one record. The Biden and the Democrat record. You have the record. It already happened. 9 % inflation peak, 5 % average under Biden. The inflation numbers just came out today. They're two points lower. Does that mean inflation is a concern? Absolutely not. Does that mean Donald Trump's record is far better than Biden's?

18:24I just gave you the numbers. If you want, if inflation is your biggest concern, then voting for the Democrats, what you're telling me is, I'm sorry, but you're not really interested in the number. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not trying to insult anyone. I'm just telling, I'm just giving you the numbers. 5 % inflation or 3 %? And Trump won. It was like 1.9. So his overall record is far better. You have a choice. It's never a perfect choice. I'm going to ask you this, too. Do you want this back? You know Nick Shirley. I like this guy. Independent journalist. Goes out there, does man on the streets and other stuff.

19:03Man on the street interviews. Exposed the Minnesota Leering Center, missing an R. So Nick Shirley went out to Oregon. I was interviewing some people in the liberal belly of Portland, Oregon. You want this stuff back? This is one of the craziest interviews I've ever seen. It's about, I'll play about a minute of it. This is what's going to be empowered again. Chop zones, Antifa assaults on the courthouse, defund the police, sky high inflation, restricting gas production so the gas prices go even higher. That is your choice. You want this lady and her lieutenants in charge? This is probably one of the craziest interviews I've ever seen.

19:40Should we let 12-year-olds do drugs? Yeah, why not? kumbaya, s'mores, defund the police. We can all sing together. I'm not kidding. Check this out. I think it's marvelous. The diversity, the seeing everyone, the homeless living outside. What should the United States do to try to combat the fentanyl crisis here? Should they allow people to use drugs openly here in the streets of America? I think that we have to be taught as young children how to use drugs. We've used drugs since we've been cavemen. So if we don't start teaching the Indian way where we have them at 12 years old going out in the wilderness or doing whatever, doing quests, vision quests, and taking drugs that way, we are going to end up taking drugs the way we are, and it's not working.

20:30So why don't we teach our children the spiritual way? And I would say that the Native Americans had that. Did you ever do meth? No, no, no, no. I did try cocaine, but I never liked it, thank God. How old were you when you started doing hard drugs like cocaine? Not, I didn't do hard drugs. Okay. A little marijuana, a little LSD, but that was it. Kevin, should people be starting to use drugs at 12? Absolutely not. She is absolutely delusional. Thank you, Kevin, for bringing some sanity to Portland. For the record, for the record, I have not done cocaine. You get this on the record. Do we have a record somewhere?

21:11Andy, can you create an official record at some point? Put it in a spreadsheet. Dan's for the record, okay? Here's point number one, for the record. Dan has never done cocaine. Dan is me. Shouldn't be talking about myself in the third person. Or LSD. What was the other one? Meth. I create the record. Please, thank you. Andrew's writing it on the board. right now. Dan has not done, you got to put the three drugs she mentions, cocaine, meth, or LSD, nor do I have any intentions of doing so. You can throw monthly's in the chat, but it's serious. It's a heart attack. And no, I don't think 12-year-olds should go on a Derek.

21:52Dan has not done cocaine. Do not erase that. Thank you. That is the official record on the board. Andrew's handwriting is as bad as mine said 12 year olds should go on a vision quest what like matthew modine in the movie isn't that a wrestling movie oh i'm probably aging myself no no i i have a daughter who's 14 she's two years older than 12 i'm not sending her in the woods on a vision quest with a bag of drugs and like go find yourself you know how you find yourself go to church play sports volunteer in the community that's how you find yourself not on a freaking vision quest in the woods with a, and we should do it like the Indians do.

22:31I'm pretty sure the Indians wouldn't tell you in this day and age to do that either. That's a good question. Andrew wants to, to anyone in the chat work for the IRS, would that be an expense if we took a Bongino Inc. Silverlock corporate vision?

22:50This is what you're going to get in this election if you vote for Democrats. Maybe if they win, we should go. With me, Vince, Haley, Andrew, Josh, Justin, Guy, Jasmine, Paula, we'll all go out in the woods, we'll take the McGroins with us, and we'll bring a bag of illegal narcotics and drugs, and we'll do a vision quest in the woods. The Democrats told us it was okay. They told us. I can see the headlines now. Former FBI deputy director caught in the woods with bags of meth coke says he was on a vision quest for because the democrats told him it was okay folks okay man all right listen that was obviously the entertainment portion of the entertainment show had to be okay i'm as serious as a heart attack that all right that lady's probably not running for office that is not sadly a fringe view on the left these people live like this they vote for people live like this they hate the police they love disorder everything like drugs are cool whatever do your thing they love that stuff fentanyl deaths are down what is it 55 under president trump i don't want your kids getting dead i had a couple people in here yesterday they got a kick out of a listener sent me aboard the bongino rules in the back Rule number one, don't get dead.

24:16I don't want your kids getting dead in a freaking vision quest in the woods, okay? The Chop Zone, all these people, you want that taking over America? That crazy lady, Katie, the mayor in Seattle and the other one? No, I don't. You want terror sympathizers too? We had an incident yesterday. You probably woke up to it this morning like I did. I went to sleep early last night. Who cares? I got up really early today. I pop in the gym. I turned the TV on over there and I see there was what appears to have been a attempted hijacking and terror attack on a plane by all the facts we have now. Bongino rule, but the facts are pretty clear, pretty obvious to me.

24:56Something bad happened last night. There's some just incredible video that emerged from this. I can get to that in a second. I don't want terror sympathizers in there either. Sorry, not sorry. Don't want terror sympathizers in the Democrat Party in positions of power. The threat is real and it's here. Quick break, we'll get right back to that. Speaking of which, slept really good last night. I used to think waking up tired was part of the routine. You wake up tired, you don't even know what's going on half the time. But after switching to a Helix Midnight Luxe mattress, the sleep has been amazing.

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27:11One attacks the other. Passengers had to get involved. It was a legitimate emergency. Plane drops dramatically. Power goes down as the pilot who got attacked slumps forward. You're going to hear the translation. I believe the individual's speaking in Hebrew here. But you're going to see they're on the plane and there's blood on this guy on his face. This is an absolute nightmare scenario. And I got a takeaway for you coming up. It's really quick, but important you understand, given my experience in the space. You need to know this. OK, so first, check this out. It's about 30 seconds. Take a look.

27:46In the middle of a plane hijacking, we just overpowered the terrorists. We're preparing to land. Anyone who can hear me, we need help. We're touching down in Tabuk, somewhere in Saudi Arabia, totally unfamiliar, unknown area. The whole plane, everyone's safe and sound except for the pilot. We need help.

28:35to averted terrorist attack based on what Israeli officials are saying in Israeli media. The co-pilot reportedly stabbed the captain in the cockpit and then crew members and passengers managed to break through the cockpit door and subdue the attacker. One senior official has just been speaking to Channel 12, a Hebrew language news channel, saying a major disaster was narrowly averted. for co-pilots is currently being questioned. And there are growing indications that he intended to take control of the plane and crash it with the passengers on board. Folks, I'm really sorry, but if this doesn't focus you before the elections, if you are a national security voter, which you should be, because if you don't have national security, you have nothing.

29:22Nothing else matters. Not the economy, not health care, not education, because we're all going to be dead. So number one, triaging my needs. I want a safe, secure nation first. And even Bill Maher doesn't even like President Trump acknowledging that clip we played yesterday that Trump's the badass you want in the White House in this environment of crazy people in crazy countries out there trying to freaking kill us.

29:48Here's my takeaway, and please listen to me on this. if god forbid and there is a very very small probability but it's not zero you are in a situation like this again and there are other sleepers out there pilots who are thinking about doing this you have no choice but to take control of that plane and fight back you have none i don't care what comes over the pa everybody stay calm we're gonna nobody no don't i'm not telling you to panic because you panic would but you have to take that plane back you have got to fight back you don't have a choice there is no choice it harps back to what i told you in the beginning of the show in that clip in hannity when you're dealing with the iranian mullahocracy you are not dealing with a rational actor who's deterred by mutually assured destruction the guy and the lunatic who's ideologically motivated by islamo fanaticism and stabs the pilot does not care if he's destroyed too.

30:46That's the point. That's the point. The old hostage negotiation, all that, you can throw all of that crap out the window. It is entirely irrelevant in this scenario. Fight for your life every second because if you don't, it's not going to be a negotiation. Folks, I've been dealing with these people for, I mean, since I was a young cop getting terrorism and briefings, all the way through my time doing country briefs and foreign trips with the Secret Service to my time is in your FBI deputy spot. These scumbags are not kidding around. They don't care about mutually assured destruction. That's the point.

31:29It is not a deterrent. Folks, the clinical TDS has gotten just insane, too, before the election. I never thought I'd see a day in my life where a businessman like President Trump and his lieutenants, his cabinet, Marco Rubio and others, Secretary Rubio, Pete Hegseth and others. I never thought I'd see a day where even TDS infected Democrats, Trump derangement syndrome affected Democrats because it's a real thing. Like, oh, get a cream for that or something like that. Whatever disease you have. Is it like skin based? What the hell is it? Viral, bacterial? I never thought I'd see the day where a businessman like President Trump and his lieutenants clean up the mess that is the government bureaucracy.

32:11Nobody likes going to the government. Please cut the crap. Please, even to the liberal trolls who are always in the chat with all your BS every day, please stop lying to people. Oh, we love going to the DMV. I love going to the Social Security office. Everybody's so nice and great. I love dealing with the IRS. You do not. Please, we're all laughing at you. You sound like a moron. So you get a businessman in charge of government. He brings in Doge, Elon, people with business experience. And what happens? Donald Trump actually cleans up government, does this America.gov site yesterday that and what happens?

32:51Democrats can't believe it. They're all pissed off. I thought you guys love big government. I don't like big government, but if government's going to be big and do stuff, then at least do it right. They can't even agree on that. These people are crazy. Here was Rubio yesterday, and it appears you'd think there'd be resounding praise for the Trump administration. Oh, my gosh, they made government easy to deal with, with UI, a user interface that can now get things from the government an easier way. Nope. They lost their minds again showing you these clowns. They believe in mutually assured destruction, too.

33:25Maybe not in the way terrorists do, but certainly economic destruction. They want the place destroyed, even if fixing government's at risk. Check this out. This is really going to be a revolution in the way that government works for the average American. So just think about for a moment what you just saw. They took something that millions of Americans deal with every single day, and they made it simpler and they made it easier and they made it more effective, and they made it that way in every possible way. And that's just one piece of the whole that we're here to talk about today. So earlier this year, Joe came to my office and he showed me America.gov.

34:00It's a whole of government project and it touches on every department, every agency, every bureau you can imagine. And in each and every case, the goal is simple. It's to make life better and easier for normal Americans. Who? I don't understand. Like, who doesn't want that? Who doesn't want that? Go down the political spectrum. Far-left liberal progressives who say government's the solution to all your problems. It is not. Even if you believe that. Don't you want your problems to be solved by government in an easy, efficient way? No, I want it more complicated. That's your position? Folks, elect these people and they're going to destroy every single thing President Trump and his administration built.

34:46Everything. Everything. Because they believe in assured destruction. That is their thing. They just hate this guy so much they will dismantle everything, costing you, costing them. They don't care. And you cannot rely on the media, the left-wing lunatic media, to give you any semblance of truth whatsoever to guide you in this election. If you're relying on the media for information on how to vote, I'm sorry you've been lied to. This show will tell you straight. There are others. We're not the only one. Folks, you are being lied to. You're being spun up. These people are clowns and goofballs. I can't bring this up enough.

35:28I talked to you, but this story is not about me and Andrew Bailey and Cash. It is, but it isn't. It's about how the media invents a story completely. I know the former FBI Deputy Director Bailey and Cash. Well, I worked with them. They made up this whole story about why he left to cause drama because here's the Daily Yeast. Farrah Tomazin, an embarrassment to her family. She has kids, an embarrassment to her kids, too. Top Trump FBI chief quits after Katie Miller meltdown. I just told you this story is fake. I have zero interest in lying to you about it. it's just made up but because the left-wing media needs the trump administration chaos narrative despite the greatest year the fbi's ever had they need that narrative they just invent this story and all the suckers out there in the left-wing ecosystem yeah man it must be true i've told you it's not true cash has told you it's not true the trump administration's told you it's not true I'm sure Steve Miller would tell you, and Katie, it's not true.

36:34Here's Andrew Bailey himself in a Fox article. It's not true. And you believe the left-wing media? How many people? FBI's Andrew Bailey blasts his exit lies as he reveals real reason he's leaving Angie, which is exactly what he said.

36:52This is why I had a laugh this morning when I see, you've got people in this election telling people, left-wing media people telling people who are undecided voters that the situation is far worse under president trump than it was under biden under what metric border no crime no inflation no gdp numbers no there is no scenario by which the biden administration and the democrats did better than president trump none but because the left-wing media is still powerful and they are You believe stupid stuff like this. Andrew Bailey left in a huff. It's made up. I know him well. That has nothing to do with the story.

37:32I had a laugh. I wake up this morning, Axios. They're all proud that, hey, faith in the media is rebounding. You're like, wow, it is? Justin's like, surprise stat. This is an actual headline, Mike Allen. Surprise, September 30th today. Surprise stat. Media trust rebounds slightly. the trend is driven by a bounce in trust amongst Republicans. Wow, you're like, man, everybody trusts the media again? Gallup didn't speculate about why. A wide bipartisan gap remains. A mere 22 % of Republicans trust the press versus half of them. So just to be straight, Axios has taken a victory lap here. Surprise stat.

38:10That overall, nearly 7 in 10 people think the media sucks. Here's the chart yourself. Only half of Democrats, even Democrats. and nearly eight in ten Republicans do not trust the media at all and you're taking a victory lap here? Folks in the media, this should be a crisis moment for you. Your only job is to tell people facts and nearly seven in ten people think you suck so bad that they believe nothing you say and eight in ten Republicans don't trust you. I'm sure they're going to spin up a story about this pilot too if it turns out to be Islamo fanaticism. They're going to be like, it was an undocumented pilot.

38:47You'd be like, wait, what? What is that? What the hell is that? Is that even a thing? Yeah. Plane crashes, an unexpected accident, failure of control. Would that sound like that? What happened? Did you miss the blood, the knives? Did you miss the whole stabbing thing? Folks, please. I'm just asking you with 30 plus days to go. The choice is crystal clear. I can't make you vote. I can only tell you this is an open book test. There are no variables. It is not a sports game. You got to worry about the weather, the quarterback party too hard this weekend. You control all of it. You show up and vote.

39:29We win. You don't, we lose. Dan, it can't be that simple. It is. Come on. No, not come on. It is. Folks, I've been warning you about this post-truth society we live in because of these media hacks and goofballs and the power of narratives. I've warned you over and over about this. And there's one I told you, no one sees around corners better than this show and our people here. I warned you over and over to be very careful what your kids are consuming there is just strand of far left please pay attention this is super important you're going to get blindsided if you don't if you are a parent out there your kids are being bombarded with socialist communist messaging we've been doing this for decades to try to turn your kids against you you'll see it boomers boomer slop don't trust your parents they suck your grandparents are idiots you thought I was making this stuff up here's Katie Miller we just mentioned Stephen Miller's uh wife she does a really great podcast here she is on x last month more than 138 ,000 new TikTok videos mentioned cutting off or going low contact with parents 82 % were from women they're preying on people this is how you destroy the bonds of community and family why would socialists be doing this telling your kids they need to hate you, their parents.

40:50Because folks, the left has been at war with objective truth for a long time. Objective truth, God-given rights. It's objective. It doesn't matter what you think. What matters is God-given rights or God-given. The God-given rights, God doesn't care what you think. God makes those rights, capital R rights. That's an objective truth. Other objective truths come from family, church, and community. don't screw over your friends don't steal the left can't have objective truth objective truth competes with the state which is subjective truth which is treat people differently treat white males differently than asians and and male blacks so any source of objective truth has got to be wiped out i told you this was coming if your kids are watching this crap and you're sensing them getting distant it's not an accident you want to elect the people doing it this is exactly what they want.

41:46Stupid boomer parents, boomer slop, all this crap. Nobody sifts through this messaging and triage is what you need to worry about better than this show. This is all we do all day. I've got to warn you about this stuff. Here we go. More media slop too, which is real slop. Fusion can add it again. Don't trust anything you see from these people. Now, I told you yesterday, this guy's source has some kind of irritable bowel issue or something like that. I don't know if he, the diaper problem, I don't know. Is he using like government money to pay for his diaper? I don't know. But here we go again. Fusion Ken, this is your source for truth.

42:27He notes that FBI officials now say the FBI has been placing people on the most wanted list whose capture they believe to be imminent. In other words, these officials said they're not officials. It's the guy whose family hates them so much they post about it on X, which is kind of embarrassing. I love it too. I love when the guy says, I don't watch a show, but here's me watching a show. OK, sure. Welcome. You're always welcome. He notes they're gaming the system. One fugitive was captured in Mexico an hour and 13 minutes after being placed on the list. Guys, again, I've already explained this to you.

43:00That's not how the list works. Of course, when you obviously you've got some kind of diaper problem, you're more worried about wipeys than you are about the truth. That's not what happens. Here's the FBI rapid response account. In reality, the 10 most wanted nominations are canvassed by field offices in a process that takes months and are then selected by career officials. Yes, I actually worked there. And it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone when Director Patel, the president of the White House, make a big deal about adding a disgusting, abominable career criminal onto the most wanted list that it gets circulated around and new tips come in.

43:39Only if you have a questionable history with the truth documented on X over and over, would you believe this kind of stupidity like Fusion can and his diaper buddy. Change yourself. Change you. You're going to get a rash, maybe an infection that's bad for you. Stop. Just stop. Take some Colase or something like that. Maybe some Beano. Remember that? Take, try that. folks please do not get sucked into this vortex of post-truth america where you believe stuff from suckers who their history with the truth is zero zero there's a reason they're being sued for defamation over and over again they say things that are freaking insane over and over Only suckers believe this stuff.

44:30Painting contrast, however, does matter in this upcoming election. Folks, I saw this ad. When I see a good ad, I want to put it out there. Now, showing you again, we saw around this corner, there's a governor's race in the state of Florida. If you're not in Florida, this is relevant to you. If you're an activist, you're into politics elsewhere, I promise you this is relevant to you. I told you over and over again, contrast snapshots and sound bites are how you win elections. create good photos and good imagery and good videos use the memes check out brendan dilly's team the dilly meme teams like it kind of invented this game they're amazing at it create good sound bites that you know if you're in a debate i want you to understand you may give a 10 uh 10 paragraph answer to a question they're going to snip the one bad thing you say be cognizant of the sound bite use it to your advantage and also paint contrast there's a guy running for governor in Florida.

45:20I was on Fox about a month ago. I think it was Laura Ingram's show. His name is David Jolly. I've seen this guy before. I've run into him before. He is the biggest fraud in Florida politics. One of the top five nationally. I said to you on the Fox hit, this guy running as a Democrat in Florida, he's been everything. No, he's actually been everything. He's been a fake Tea Party conservative. He's been a moderate Republican, a fake one at that. He's been kind of an independent guy, fake one. He's been a fake moderate Democrat, and he's been a fake far-left Democrat. He's fake. He'll tell you whatever.

45:57He's freaking Gozer the Gozerian from Ghostbusters, who's whatever you think he is. Watch the movie. You'll get the point. Here's a banger of an ad from Byron Donalds running for governor, showing you in David Jolly's own words exactly what I said. This guy's claimed to be every single thing on the political spectrum just to sucker you into voting. You're like diaper-wearing guy. Check this out. I'm a never-Trumper, but not a Democrat. I'm a proud Democrat today. I'm a conservative Second Amendment person who sponsored some pretty hardcore Second Amendment bills. Who cares about some of the finer points of this Second Amendment?

46:33We have a system of laws here in the United States, and if we have to send people back, let's do so. The president is making an immigration crackdown his primary focus. Is it a winning issue? It is not a winning issue. Would you like to see Roe versus Wade overturn? I would, yes. What do you think the government's role in regulating abortion? I don't know that we need regulations. So you oppose legalizing gay marriage? I believe that God saw Adam was lonely and he made it. If a local community wants to paint a mural to honor our LGBTQ plus community or Black Lives Matter, God bless you, I'll buy the can of paint.

47:07It was only after you switch parties that you switch your position. This is not a matter of conviction for you. This is political convenience. Little Elm, jolly is the flavor of the day. and the flavor is dog waste. I told you I'm in Florida. Folks, you have a choice to make. Tala Frico in Texas is the same way. He'll tell you whatever. Oh, God's not a man. God's a woman. There's 72 genders. I'm a vegan. I'm not a vegan. I'm a vegan, but I love brisket. Have you ever eaten brisket? No. Look at me. I go into Cracker Barrel. He walked into Cracker Barrel like it was freaking Indiana Jones looking for the lost ark like oh my gosh look at this place it's so amazing these people are frauds at a minimum even if you hate president trump at least you have something to hate because he told you who he is i'm not kidding at least he's not messing around and lying to you whatever your stance is he takes unpopular positions on issues that he thinks are better from the country all the time because he's not a freaking fraud like these clowns.

48:19My humble opinion here, I think this video is one of the most destructive I've seen in the cycle for the Democrats. Folks, I told you in the beginning of the show, I hate stupid expressions, but in my heart of hearts, I believe there are candidates running right now, and a lot of them, who are terrorist sympathizers. And I do not use that word lightly. That is a big charge. They do not call it out. They dance around the issue. They won't even call out and say, hey, the death of the Iranian mullahs was a good thing. I have a litany of evidence to back that up. If you're not convinced that this crop of Democrats running, David Jolly, Talafrico, 72 gender guy, whatever, are bad for the country, and you're an on-the-fence Republican, can we at least agree that Soros, George Soros, and his billion-dollar wealth network, you know, funding every liberal, destructive, anti-American organization known to humankind has not been good for America?

49:20Can we at least agree on that? here this is uh came out yesterday here's some it's not hidden video it's at a fundraiser but it's abdul el-sayed democrat running for senate in the state of michigan could be the swing vote in the senate one of the most destructive candidates i've seen in years here he is at a fundraiser out in california with the soros family you want them back in charge because you're teaching Republicans a lesson or you ain't teaching anyone a lesson but your kids and it's a bad one. Here's the evidence. Check it out yourself. I just want to welcome you here and express my appreciation for coming.

50:02I've had the pleasure of knowing Abdul since 2012. I got to interview him as a finalist for my parents' fellowship, the Paul and Daisy Soros Fellowship for New Americans.

50:20again, even if your position, it is not mine. I want to be crystal clear. I think the Trump record in the last two years have been extraordinary. And I've got the facts to back it up. I've got some more coming in a minute. But even if your position's the opposite, that, hey, it's okay, whatever, it's good, but I don't like it. And I'm going to teach them a lesson. They should have moved faster. You want George Soros, this guy, they did this. This is a fundraiser. This is not what I said. It's not some hidden video. You want Soros' people in charge? You want terror sympathizers in charge? Folks, I'm sorry, but we can't have it.

50:54We can't have it. We got a country to save. The choice is crystal clear. And by the way, those telling you it's a fait accompli, the race is over, stay home, this is all in up. This is from the same people, the diaper wearers out there, who hate this country. They hate the MAGA movement. They hate the closed border. They hate it. They don't want any of this to continue. They want the Democrats in charge. They are liberals themselves. Here's a post by David Chapman about the Harvard-Harris poll just came in. I thought it was all over. I thought it was all over. I don't know how it's going to turn out.

51:27If you don't show up, we'll lose. If you do, we'll win. How do I know that? Here's the latest generic congressional ballot poll. He notes in all caps, is it dead heat? Registered voters, Republicans 50%, Democrats 50%. Likely voters, Democrats 51%, Republicans 49%. Harvard-Harris, September 26th through September 28th. I thought the race was over. It's only over because people are putting in people's heads that this is the worst things have ever been. It's never been worse. It's all Trump's fault. He did everything. None of that is true. None of that is true. Can I go a little out of order here, Justin?

52:04Fox Business on inflation. This just popped. If I was ever going to be, I wasn't late this morning, but we almost were. I had to get this in. The inflation numbers just came out. Folks, are they stellar and amazing? Are we in deflation territory where prices are coming down? We're not, and I'm never going to lie to you. Are the numbers anywhere as bad as they were under Democrat leadership with the spending blowout and the Biden years where they were at 5 % and then 9 % in one quarter? They were not. They came in lower than expected, meaning it's at least trending in a better direction since the Biden-Democrat disaster.

52:40I don't believe you. okay here's the numbers check this out three now that is a little bit lower than expectations of 0.4 good the year over year numbers better than expected 3 4 versus expectations of 3 7 excellent on the core number month over month 0.2 expectations of 0.3 and core pce year over year 3 versus 3.3 so this looks like it is lighter than expected inflation than we thought a little bit Yeah. I'm just giving you the numbers, man. You have to go out and do the rest. It's not agitprop. It's not administration propaganda. It's literally economic numbers, and I hate that word. Biden averaged 5%.

53:28That's two points. That's nearly double what you just heard. You think the Biden Democrats, when they get back in office, are going to do better? Why is inflation lower under President Trump? not ideal, but lower than it was under Biden. I'm going to tell you why. Because the big, beautiful bill cut your taxes and it incentivized capital investment. When you invest in capital and make products cheaper because your factories are better and can produce more stuff, it creates more products which can suck up more money. You have to look at productivity like a sponge for money. People use money to buy products and services, correct?

54:07provide more products and it's a sponge to suck some of that additional money out of the economy when it sucks it out of the economy you just saw the consumer spending numbers just jump to the highest ones i believe uh in months people spend more money when people spend more money companies make more money they can pay their workers more that's why household medium income is at a record high of 87 000 just a fact you don't have to like it if you're a democrat but it's true the build-out is the new industrial revolution for this new AISI ecosystem we're in the build-out has created a massive amount of productivity as electricians and other blue-collar worker unions are now all in on the infrastructure build-out it's been called the fourth industrial revolution and it's Donald Trump's approach to taxes deregulation capital expenditures incentivizing building in the United States that did this.

55:05There is no question about that. That's the reason. Because spending is still relatively high. Democrats still want to spend everything and everyone all the time. But the money is being absorbed by an economy that is powering ahead. Not to the degree we like, but it's going to. Here's Charles Payne. I really like Charles's commentary on the economy. He's on Fox talking about how you are living through right now The fourth industrial revolution, despite what the doomers and the gloomers and the IBS guys and podcasters tell you, the numbers don't marry up with this is the worst time ever for the economy.

55:40That's a media narrative. It's not true. Yes, people are struggling. That part that this is the worst thing that we've ever seen is just crap. It's multiple times better than the Biden-Dem led economy. Here, check this out. Tech Summit. What came out of it? I think what came out of it was an acknowledgement that super intelligence is something that is extraordinarily powerful. But the architects of it, the folks who are there, it's also a business opportunity. You know, and I think, you know, President Trump mentioned the Industrial Revolution. This is the fourth Industrial Revolution. America became the preeminent nation in the world during the second Industrial Revolution.

56:22Right. And we stayed in front of the world because we were in touch on top of the third. and now the fourth. And this will be such a gift to humankind, mankind. And to me, it's been mind boggling. Can you imagine this nation built starting with the greatest generation, a couple of world wars, the Great Depression? We faced everything in this world. We overcame them. We shared our intelligence, our wealth with the rest of the world. And imagine telling a kid 20 years from now, well, we gave it all up because we didn't want a building behind our yard. By the way, it would be a well-manicured building with big shrubs, an occasional hum, and we didn't want it to be built.

57:03We didn't want 2 ,000 people to get construction jobs. We didn't want 300 people, plumbers, electricians. We didn't want them to have permanent jobs because somehow the media scared the hell out of us. Somehow academics scared the hell out of us, and we were shaken to our core. I mean, it's embarrassing, Jesse. It's absolutely embarrassing. folks you are living through the fourth industrial revolution there is no question about it None. They had an AISI Now Summit at the White House yesterday with industry leaders. Some of these people I respect, some I don't. However, there's no question they're in charge of$100 billion and even trillion dollar companies.

57:47A guy I do respect because he does stuff and he doesn't just talk about stuff is Elon. Elon won and I probably saved free speech by himself early on with the purchase of X. Platform's not perfect. However, it's far better than it was under the liberals. Here's Elon at the summit yesterday asked a question about where this is going to go. and he sees exactly what I see, that if we can get a lid on some of the obvious and really difficult safety issues with this artificial super intelligence, there are no doubt about it, there are issues. If we can get a lid on that, like we did with nuclear power, the dangers of electricity, early flight where there's a danger of a crash, we'll be looking at an era of super abundance like you've never seen before.

58:35It goes to what I was talking about before, why President Trump's been better on inflation than the economy. If your economy can produce stuff cheaply, stuff, I'm going to keep it super simple. Tablets, microphones, T-shirts, American flags, medicine, health care. If they can produce things cheaply, more people get access to them. That's what makes you wealthy. What makes people poor and impoverished is they don't have access to fancy cars and high-end food and all that stuff. In this era of abundance where artificial intelligence makes everything geometrically cheaper, you are going to be walking into an era of abundance where, folks, I got to tell you something, we have a real chance to eradicate what you know is poverty if we get this right.

59:23You don't have to listen to me. I haven't done trillions of dollars of business like he has, but I promise you, Elon's got street cred in the space. Check this out. People that think of this will be worrying, particularly laptop jobs. What are they going to do in YouTube, Mr. Monthly? Well, I think it is worth highlighting the positive benefits of AI, which will... SI, pardon me. Thank you. Super intelligence. I think my father's most likely outcome is an age of abundance, where we don't have just universal basic income. We have universal high income. And people speak about medical benefits. I think the, but maybe it's worth a bit more about that.

1:00:03Well, jobs are going to change. Jobs have always changed. But being a computer used to be a job. It used to be buildings full of people doing calculations. But now, digital computers do those tasks. And I don't think anyone is pining to go back and do calculations all day to do bank interest rates, which is what they used to do. So I think we'll see an evolution of roles. Folks, this guy's been seeing around corners forever. Everything they told him was crap. You guys remember when they told him, oh my gosh, commercial rockets reusable into space? Remember they were like, what a stupid freaking idea that is.

1:00:42And then he had like the pincers catch the rocket. He was like, obviously not that stupid. Folks, if we get this right, you are looking at an American economy that I'm telling you won't even recognize. What do you mean, Will Rake? That sounds bad. No, no, no, it's not bad. you're not even going to recognize what material poverty looked like even in the 70s when I was born you're not houses will be cheaper medicine will be cheaper life-saving drugs will be everywhere cancer could be eradicated oh daniel no no nothing I don't go to bed dooming and glooming every night I think we got the right guy in charge I think the administration is moving the country in the right direction and move in various areas.

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1:05:27Welcoming back to the show, I say back because he was a frequent guest on my radio show. I follow him on X. His commentary is just fantastic. Dr. Peter McCullough. Doc, thank you so much for joining us again. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Doc, you were one of the few truth tellers early on with the COVID hysteria. And I say hysteria not because it wasn't serious. It was. But I think, you know, the R0, the infectious capabilities of the virus and the lethality, I had suggested early on, I'm not a doctor at all, that maybe we should get those numbers down before we shut the entire world down.

1:06:01You were one of the people urging reason and caution. A lot of people took the COVID vaccine, the mRNA vaccine and others during COVID. They took it, I would argue, under false promises that it was going to eradicate COVID. It was going to be really effective. And it turned out that it really wasn't. A lot of those folks are very concerned, you know, me included and others. I had cancer at the time. I was really out of options, are concerned about long-term damage from the vaccine. Do folks out there who took it to keep their jobs or whatever, they have anything to worry about from this mRNA thing if they haven't shown symptoms at this point?

1:06:40Well, certainly a lot to unpack there. Let me just say, Dan, 97 % of us got COVID at least once, sometimes multiple times. So if we're all going to get the infection, which we all did, there was no reason to shut down. The only reason to shut down was to try to avoid getting the illness. We all got it. It was so infectious. It was the most infectious thing mankind has ever seen. The entire world. We're talking 97 % of the world. And then to make matters worse, this idea of taking a vaccine in a widely prevalent pandemic is a giant mistake. Because if so many people have the virus and we give a vaccine, the virus is going to quickly outsmart the vaccine and become resistant.

1:07:24And that's exactly what happened. The vaccines came out. They may have reduced the case count a bit in the first few months, but Fauci came out in April of 2021 and said, listen, we need boosters, essentially admitting the vaccines don't work. Now we learn that the vaccines are genetic. Most of the people took a vaccine. 81 % of Americans took a vaccine. 94 % of them took Pfizer and Moderna, it's genetic, it's messenger RNA, Dan. And the messenger RNA we have found now persists in the body for years, producing the spike protein, which is the dangerous and disease-promoting part of the virus. So if the antibodies are perfectly neutralized in the spike protein, people are fine.

1:08:08About 98 % of people are fine, according to CDC vSafe, but 2 % are not. they're having problems because the spike protein is not neutralized and is causing disease. Dr. McCullough, why is it that, and I vividly remember early on you coming on the radio show, and you've been very consistent about the science in this, despite some of your ridiculous detractors getting into hysteria, that the overwhelming majority of people, thank the Lord, and I don't use his name in vain, will probably be okay. Is that because if I remember what you had said correctly, just stop me if I'm saying this wrong, I'm not a scientist.

1:08:46However, the mRNA vaccine stayed relatively localized in the majority of people, but for some, is that accurate or am I getting that wrong? Well, there's three factors. First, the batches were not all the same. So some people got a very low concentration of messenger RNA. And I think that's the majority. In the Pfizer lot data, there's about 4 ,500 lots of Pfizer, 75 % of those lots had like zero serious side effects. So they, you know, must have gotten it right or had very little messenger RNA. We can tell by blood testing now, they probably had very little messenger RNA. So that's the first factor.

1:09:27Second factor is if people's immune system perfectly neutralizes the spike protein, there doesn't seem to be any side effects at all. But if the library of antibodies is just off a little bit, then the spike protein can kind of roam through the body and cause damage and syndromes. And then the third factor is that there are baseline susceptibilities. What I'm finding is in cardiology, if there are baseline mutations in heart muscle proteins, then someone is at increased risk for myocarditis or heart damage. Or if there are genetic predispositions to blood clotting, then boom, we get a vaccine blood clot.

1:10:08Fortunately, as you said, according to the CDC V-SAFE data, 10 million people, probably 2 % is the population out there having problems. 98 % so far look like they're okay. So Dr. McCullough, if you were in that 2 % of people having an adverse reaction to this widely used vaccine at the time. What can you do? I mean, I read a lot of things out there. I really only trust a few people, you being one of them. I hear a lot about natokinase. I take natokinase. I'm not a doctor. I'm not giving anyone medical advice. I take it. I enjoy the product very much. It's relatively low cost. It's over the counter.

1:10:52You get it on wherever you shop for your supplements. I've heard a lot about natokinase. I hear a lot about, you know, ivermectin as a prophylactic mechanism against COVID. You know, your thoughts about what those 2 % of people can do to help the situation if you've had an adverse reaction. Well, in the 2 % who are having problems, and I would lump in here people who have persistent long COVID or a problem after the vaccine or both, that they get a blood test, Dan. So LabCorp now offers the spike antibody test. You can self-order if you go to LabCorp, Labazon, demand COVID antibody test, pay$79, get the test yourself.

1:11:29If the number's over 1 ,000 units per ml, that means the body's had a significant spike exposure. That's where we start to see problems. People up at 10 ,000, 15 ,000, 25 ,000, watch out. They tend to be really sick. So the blood test is very helpful. The fundamentals are to get rid of the spike protein. Now, fortunately, as you mentioned, natokinase dissolves the spike protein. So does another family of enzymes called bromelain. They have to be taken on an empty stomach. So at Wellness Company, we have Ultimate Spike Detox. If I could show this, this is natokinase, bromelain, and about seven ingredients in total.

1:12:07But take these on an empty stomach. I found that they have to be taken for a couple years. Measurements of the spike protein come down. People resolve their symptoms. You know, as you and I have mentioned that natokinase has a protective cardiovascular benefit. So it is anti-athroscorotic. So I take it myself per day because I have some atherosclerosis. I have some blockage in my arteries. You get to be a certain age. You'll develop them commonly. And so it is protective from a cardiovascular perspective. It also is dissolving blood clots, micro blood clots. We're all prone to forming blood clots now.

1:12:47So the spike detoxification protocols, natoconies, bromelain, and other ingredients help prevent blood clots. And importantly, if you were to go on Amazon right now, Dan, and type in spike detox, you'll find Wellness Company and a whole bevy of companies offering spike detoxification protocols. People should take a look at them. The spike protein, Dr. McCullough, you know, obviously none of, you know, a small portion of my audience are MDs. It's, you know, medical doctors. I'm not one of them. But there are some in my chat. They probably understand the spike protein. But the average viewer of the show, you know, me included, we don't understand spike protein dynamics and, you know, pharmacokinetics like you do.

1:13:33What is so dangerous about persistent spike protein development in someone in that 2 % of folks who took the vaccine who are having problems? What does the spike protein do that's so bad? Well, the spike protein is the little point on the surface of the virus. So everybody knows the coronavirus. It has a bunch of these little pricky porcupine projections. Those are spike proteins. It turns out, Dan, that was engineered in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. It's an unnatural protein. It's not supposed to be in the human body. And it's not broken down by human enzymes. So in a sense, this is like a burr or some type of prickly protein that gets stuck in the human body.

1:14:21The body tries to handle it by wrapping it in a phospholipid packet called an exosome, or cells try to ingest it. But the vaccine cranks a ton of the spike protein in the body. And if it's not being neutralized by antibodies, it's been found in the heart causing myocarditis. It's found right in blood clots causing blood clotting, rupturing blood vessels in the brain. That's particularly scary, inciting autoimmunity. And now our research, Dan, finds the spike protein and at least the genetic code for fragments of it directly in cancers. So we're concerned that this stuff is sticking around too long in the body, years in the body.

1:15:02And there's some other illnesses, by the way, that deposit things in the body for years. And one comes to mind is Lyme disease. Another one is syphilis. So anytime an infectious disease deposits something in the body that lasts a long time, watch out, we can have long-term problems. And Dr. McCullough, would it be accurate to state that the initial intention, as was stated, of the mRNA vaccine was to use the body's own ribonucleic acid, messenger RNA, to produce a limited and temporary amount of spike protein, which the immune system would recognize as a foreign invader, which would then in turn attack the COVID virus.

1:15:41But it was never intended as a long-term production of spike protein throughout the body. And the persistence is the issue. Is that accurate or am I off there? Well, it's partially correct. No, it's using synthetic messenger RNA. Your own messenger RNA, which you're producing right now and I'm producing, that's dissolved within minutes to hours. We're constantly making it, dissolving it, making it dissolving. When you get Pfizer and Moderna, they've been chemically modified through a Nobel Prize winning procedure called pseudo-urigenation. That messenger RNA is not dissolvable. That's the problem.

1:16:16It stays in the body too long. And I think the big gamble that the vaccine companies made is that somehow the body would turn it off or switch it off. There's no known mechanism by which you can turn off Pfizer or Moderna. So these proteins are produced endlessly. And we're hopeful at some point in time that, you know, the body just, these molecules get fatigued. Maybe the tips fall off, the five prime and three prime caps fall off. We do know, by the way, it probably comes out in sweat, Dan. I know you're someone who works out a lot, probably perspires a lot. You know, messenger RNA has been found in breast milk.

1:16:54Now that's pretty scary. Two studies by Hannah and colleagues found that, but breast milk is modified sweat. So I've studied my patients now for years. My patients who seem to kind of get over all this, they sweat a lot. So we advise working out, sweating, going in saunas, sweat the vaccine out of you. Wow, I'm a big user of the sauna. And I was entire, even though I follow you religiously, I'm entirely unaware of that. Yeah, sauna, I use it for the cognitive benefits, the heart benefits. I mean, that Finnish study is amazing. I mean, you're talking about something close to a 40 % reduction. I mean, those are medicinal effects.

1:17:32Those are like exercise. Those are massive interventions. We're not talking about one or 2%. So for the audience out there, that's another piece of great news. This is actually a great segue into my next question. It's unintentional, but perfect timing. Doc, you obviously being a medical doctor, your thoughts in general on mRNA technology. I've seen some recent research on some potential cancer research. Now, listen, I'm not a doctor. I'm not pretending to be. I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. But if you have, say, pancreatic cancer, pancreatic, excuse me, and you're at stage four, stage five, and you've been given three to six months, you're obviously in a different boat than someone trying to prevent COVID, where these days the overwhelming majority is you're going to get the sniffles and get better.

1:18:16So do you see a role for this or do you think to yourself, eh, this may be a little too dangerous. Maybe we should stay out of it. Well, one of the original intents of messenger RNA was as form of a cancer treatment. So there's no technology where governments have not invested more. This is astonishing. Billions and billions of government investments all over the world in messenger RNA. Why? Because it's designer genetic material that can produce any protein that we can draw up on a computer screen. I mean, it's an amazing technology. The problem is no ability to shut it off. This is really a problem.

1:18:58So right now, the lead molecule is a messenger RNA for expressing cancer proteins in patients with metastatic melanoma. Moderna's got that. So if the messenger RNA is expressing the melanoma proteins and the body recognizes is that then the immune system hopefully could take out the melanoma cancer cells and then be used as a form of treatment. Right now, it's being used with Keytruda, which is considered an immune checkpoint inhibitor. About a third of cancers hide from the immune system through what's called immune checkpoints. So if cancer vaccines are going to be used right now, they're going to be used in that kind of immunoprovocatory mechanism, and they're going to have to be used with toxic drugs like Keytruda.

1:19:50So this is not a party. This isn't what Trump and the guys who had that press release about AI and messenger RNA. It's not going to be a party. It's going to be part of combination toxic chemotherapy, but I think it's worth a shot in clinical trials. And I only bring it up, Doc, because having been through lymphoma myself, Hodgkin's, you're poisoning that's what chemo is you hope you kill the cancerous cells before you kill yourself the cancer treatment now are brutal it came from I believe mustard gas that's where chemo the whole idea started it's not all mustard gas maybe I'm watching too much TikTok I know but what you're saying the messenger RNA is no less toxic it's generally producing cancer antigens which can make you sick as well.

1:20:48So the hope is stimulate the immune system. The immune system wipes out the cancer and you resolve the whole thing. I think that's what we all want. And I think the cancer community is open to messenger RNA, but there's gotta be some fundamentals about figuring out where does it go in the body? How can we target the tissues and how can we turn it on and off? Right now, that's all not known. Dr. McCullough, again, early on, you were one of the few guys out there and ladies urging reason during the COVID. And it was a crisis. I mean, people were dying. There's zero doubt about that. However, when you look back now and you look back at, again, the infectious capabilities, which is known, I believe, is the R-naught and the lethality of the virus.

1:21:34I mean, just a rough percentage. I mean, what percentage of the lethal cases of COVID do you think were hospital mismanagement? And And I don't mean that. I mean, just confusion early on. Obviously, there were the use of ventilators, which now, in retrospect, doesn't seem to be that wise. What rough percentage do you think of this was the virus was going to get these folks anyway versus maybe this was treatment mechanism and hospital, you know, hospital error? You know, under Senate testimony, I've testified, I think 85 percent of the deaths were avoidable. Now, yesterday, Senator Johnson had on, you know, in the Russell building, he had an entire hearing on the hospital care of patients with COVID-19.

1:22:16And Johnson's been a real hero. He's held a whole series of these hearings. But you know what? Robert F. Kennedy and HHS should be holding these hearings. And hospital CEOs and other leaders in the medical establishment should be showing up. That's the problem is hospitals for a couple of years, their leading source of revenue was COVID hospitalization. And there's not a single hospital in the country that claims to be any good at treating COVID. There was no center of excellence. There was no reporting of mortality statistics. You think Americans would want to know which hospitals saved the most people from COVID and how did they do it?

1:22:54None of these hospital CEOs are forthcoming. it seems as if they're almost shamed by what happened during the hospital. They didn't adapt their protocols. None of the health systems featured early outpatient treatment like McCullough Protocol and some of the others that we had an enormous success in. And when we saw a bright light, like the treatment of patients with ivermectin, which in the ICON study in Florida, it cut in-hospital mortality by 50%. And attorney Ralph Lorigo at the Senate hearing said, listen, when he actually had to have court orders to force the doctors to use ivermectin in the hospital, they save lives.

1:23:35And still to this day, hospitals have not embraced simple, safe oral ivermectin in addition to other treatments. Doc, it's insane. You mentioned ivermectin to a large majority of medical professionals, they openly laugh at you as if you're crazy, as if they had a better idea. That number though, even my crew in the bubble in there was just stunned. Upwards of 85 % of deaths were preventable. That is a staggering, even if you're off by 20%, it's still 65%. That is insane. And you just, I think nailed it. There is no business service product, government service, whatever in the world, where you don't look at best practices, especially in medicine.

1:24:18That's why you have Moffitt, you have MD Anderson. Clearly they do things better. That's why people go there. There is still a market for medicine. How is it that the most destructive pandemic in modern times, and I don't just mean by deaths, I mean economically to faith in the global health system. I mean, all of it, the entire atmosphere around COVID that nobody is doing a retrospective analysis is, I think you're right. I think that's because they don't want to know. Well, you know, HHS holds all the cards. Kennedy tomorrow, Dr. Oz and others could call healthcare leaders to Washington and say, listen, you receive CMS dollars.

1:24:55You show up as hospital CEOs, present your data, and let's look at who did the best, who did the worst in COVID, why, and, you know, how come we haven't improved? As an example, you know, in the United States, they used remdesivir, which is an antiviral drug. It failed in COVID. WHO declared it useless in COVID in November of 2020, said don't use it. Majority of countries did not use it, but United States, at the advice of Fauci, embraced remdesivir. It's still used today. It does not reduce mortality. In some people, it causes kidney and liver damage. Why did that go One, somebody in a position of authority has to ask the hospital CEOs and people at HHS why that happened.

1:25:44Because if we don't get things right now, another pandemic occurs. We're going to be right back in the same fog of war and all the mistakes being made again. Talking to Dr. Peter McCullough. Doc, that's what worries me so much, that it's only a matter of time. And again, into my next question, with the explosive development of artificial intelligence, whatever you want to call, super intelligence, artificial intelligence, and the potential growth of even AGI, artificial general intelligence, and the singularity coming soon, which I believe is going to happen. You know, we run the very real risk of COVID on steroids.

1:26:27I hate the term, but it's true. Where you could have a virus engineered by artificial intelligence that's even more lethal than COVID and as infectious and aerosolized or dropletized or whatever you want to call it. You know, we've got to be able to trust our government health officials. And my gosh, they really, they really aided on COVID. But I mean, the faith in even in vaccines, people, the normal folks are like, yeah, I'll take a video. Like, you know what? I don't trust anyone anymore with these vaccines. This is a serious problem with AI. We better get ahead of this. I agree. Now, I use AI every day in my practice.

1:27:02It's incredibly useful for searching, synthesizing, help summarizing things, drug interactions. So AI, no doubt about it, is going to play a big role in medicine. I think personally, I think AI should be a medical assistant to begin with. It could start fetching things from fax machines, emails, filing, working in the electronic medical record to help us. Right now, we don't get an ounce of help in the medical office from AI. I'm a little concerned about the healthcare workers and the doctors feeding AI all the information, and then Dr. AI gives the answer. That's what a lot of these AI companies have envisioned for healthcare.

1:27:43I think AI should be assisting us along the way. And then AI can be used in the lab for sure. This idea of trying to get to more rapid drug discovery, drugs that work in cancer and heart disease using artificial intelligence as opposed to trial and error, trial and error for sure. But you can imagine AI used in biolabs, biolabs that are developing biological weapons and to try to figure out a way of people, how can people hurt other people through infectious diseases? This is pretty scary. Trump has taken some important steps to try to limit this federal funding of biolabs, but there's all kinds of foundations, adversarial companies, countries, and entities potentially developing the next threat.

1:28:31And AI can clearly develop a virus. Stanford's already shown this now. So watch out. I think we need control mechanisms on this. And we need AI to help play defense because it looks like there's going to be an escalation in these threats of biowarfare. We all had a taste of it with COVID-19. Yeah. And I think we saw very early on how, you know, there was this, I think there was this thought out there that if this were to ever happen, there'd be some mass revolution against being told, but doc, you know, there are a lot of sheep out there and they're not my audience. Certainly not you. You, you know, you got filleted for speaking the truth.

1:29:08I remember. But, you know, put your mask on. I joke a lot that it's, it's the worst prophylactic of all time. I mean, a surgical mask, every single person who wore one got sick. I always joke. It's like the condom where everybody gets pregnant. Like, why would you keep using this? I mean, it just didn't work. So my faith in the medical community outside of, sorry, but it's just true. I mean, it really hammers the point home. Like, why would you keep putting this device on? It's meant for spit, not to fall in open wounds when they're committing surgery. It's not an antiviral mechanism. So that's it.

1:29:40But go to the airport, Dan. I just flew yesterday. The guy sat next to me wore a mask. So people are still wearing them. To make matters worse, though, do you know in the hospital they're still wearing hazmat suits and Pappers? This was the most ridiculous thing. Everybody got COVID-19 multiple times. Families took care of their loved ones at home for weeks before they got sick enough to go in the hospital. Suddenly, family members could not go in the hospital, and then the healthcare personnel treated the patients like they were radioactive. I mean, it was just absolutely ridiculous. The amount of money that was blown on personal protective equipment and masks was ridiculous, and the government paid for all of that.

1:30:21The only thing that was reasonable to care for an in-hospital patient, as you said, is to wear a mask to prevent an uncontrolled sneeze from the healthcare workers that would spray bacteria onto somebody vulnerable, sick with a viral infection or with an open wound. So it's the misuse of masks, hazmat suits, and personal protective equipment. Again, the hospital should be reviewing that. Why did they do that? Why are they still doing it now? I think you and I both know because they don't make me and my producer on the radio show producer Jim. We have a very simple answer for this. Why doesn't the hospital do it?

1:30:58Because they don't want to. They don't want to. There's it's no more complicated than that. They're afraid people like you are going to look good. The Great Barrington Declaration folks are going to look good and they're going to look like idiots. And no one wants to look like an idiot. It's embarrassing. Dr. McCullough, thank you so much for your time. you have an open invitation to come back whenever you'd like. My audience is going to love, love this interview. They really miss you. So thanks a lot for coming on today. We really appreciate it. Thank you. You got it. Dr. Peter McCullough, we got to get, he's really a great interviewer, isn't he?

1:31:28Man, I miss him. He used to be on the radio show a lot. And, you know, I was gone for the last year, but I really miss him. And by the way, folks, when everyone else was screaming, you know, put yourself in a bubble, put your mask on, put your dopey mask on, take the vaccine. Don't ask any questions. Shut your mouth. Throw ivermectin in the garbage. Horse tranquilizer. Whatever the hell they were talking about. Horse paste. Whatever. When they were all saying that, he was saying the opposite. And I'm not kidding. He was getting, like, crushed online by people in the medical community. I use the dreaded air quotes.

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