The Media's Hoax On Epstein, Trump, And A Birthday Card? | Episode 88

27:01At a very young age, she wrote, showers with my dad.

27:06Dan Bongino:Probably not appropriate, she said. This right here is authentic. there is no question about the authenticity of that that's real actually in fact it's so real that of that snopes the fact-checking operation the left-wing fact-checking operation they eventually had to come out and change their rating they had previously said that it was unproven unproven here it is fact-check posts claim contents of ashley biden's diary have been verified. Here are the facts. The claim, a diary authored by U.S. President Joe Biden's daughter, Ashley Biden, describes showers taken with her father when she was a child is probably not appropriate.

27:53Dan Bongino:Rating true. Snopes says on April 29th of 2024, Snopes changed the rating of this fact check from unproven to true based on testimony provided by Ashley Biden. In an April 8th letter to a New York judge requesting jail time for one of the two people convicted of stealing her diary, Biden wrote, quote, I will forever have to deal with that fact that my personal journal can be viewed online. In other words, that's confirmation that it's real. And it's awful. It's completely awful. and yet crickets from our media on the then president of the united states and what he did to his own daughter nary a mention to be found in fact the only real coverage of this that we saw was attacks on the people who exposed it on the people who obtained and shared the contents of that diary.

28:58Dan Bongino:That was it. That was the way the media treated this story. Other than that, they didn't want to tell you what the contents of that diary were. That is a far more consequential presidential scandal than whatever hoax the Wall Street Journal is participating in now. And yet nothing, nothing from the Wall Street Journal. Probably worth remembering exactly how these guys handle these stories and what they do tell you and what they don't. Coming up in a moment, we do have a great guest joining us. I am very excited to have him. He'll be here in a moment. It's not the same guest we expected. Our original guest canceled on us two minutes before the show started.

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32:40Dan Bongino:All right. Let me see here then. And before we get to our guest, I have, what do we have? Well, I do have Stephen Colbert getting fired. That's kind of fun. Speaking of the media. Yeah, let's do that. So Stephen Colbert just got canned. And he announced it on the show yesterday. Guess who his guest was for the show where he announced that he's getting canned. It was Adam Schiff. Adam Schiff, who has spent his entire career trying to get Trump canceled, succeeded in getting Colbert canceled. I love that. That's one of my favorite details about this story. Here is CNN instantly. Well, let's actually let's start with Colbert announcing.

33:28Dan Bongino:Let's here's Colbert announcing that his show is being canceled. Cut to. Oh, hey, everybody. We got a great show for you tonight. Senator Adam Schiff was my guest. We harmonized on Seven Bridges Road. What a voice. I cried. But before we start the show, I want to let you know something that I found out just last night. Next year will be our last season. The network will be ending The Late Show in May. And...

34:03Yeah, I share your feelings. It's not just the end of our show, but it's the end of the late show on CBS. I'm not being replaced. This is all just going away.

34:13Dan Bongino:They're just destroying. They're just getting rid of it. They're scrapping the whole thing. They're like, actually, this was such a disaster. We can't resuscitate this show. It's been so damaged by your presence. We've got to get rid of it. Just imagine, huh, weird. Why are they canceling your show? Who's your guest tonight? It must be a huge ratings draw. No, it's Adam Schiff. OK, well, that would explain it. Actually, if it's if it's Stephen Colbert and Adam Schiff sharing a television screen, it's no wonder they have to cancel the show. CNN is upset. They think it's a political conspiracy. They they they don't think it has anything to do with the bottom line or at least very little.

34:51Dan Bongino:They think Trump did this. Take a look. Cut seven. This looks to a lot of Colbert's fans like another form of capitulation by CBS to the president of the United States. If you look at Colbert's Instagram page already, his fans are pouring their hearts out and blaming CBS for this. Here's the reporting that I have just in the past few minutes, Anderson, about this financial explanation. Think back to 2023 when the late, late show with James Corden went off the air. I reported at the time that that show had become unprofitable, that CBS was not able to sell enough ads to make that show profitable.

35:24Well, that is now the case for Colbert as well. I'm told by a source close to the network that the late show is now technically unprofitable. So that does give the company a financial reason to end the show starting in May 2026. However, it's not as if Colbert was given a chance to take a pay cut or maybe change the format of the show or move out of the Ed Sullivan Theater. This seems to have happened all at once. And it comes on the verge of that big Paramount Skydance merger. Who's taking over Skydance? Larry Ellison, a friend of President Trump. Oh, boy. and his son, David.

35:58Dan Bongino:Yeah, so you know what that means. It's Trump's fault. Trump did this. Trump ruined Colbert's career. It couldn't have been that his ratings were in the toilet and that he thought Adam Schiff was going to be a big ratings and revenue draw. No, it has to be Trump's fault. It's Trump's fault. Trump just snapped his fingers and he got him canned. Really? If Trump could do that, why hasn't CNN been shuttered entirely? Why hasn't MSNBC just been completely shut down if Trump has this magic power. It can't be that you're just an abysmal failure who roots on left-wing garbage and is not funny. That infamous clip of Stephen Colbert dancing around with COVID jabs in order to convince you that you should get one, there was nothing amusing about it.

36:44Dan Bongino:It was just sort of pathetic, lick-spittle, state-controlled media water carrying. So people tuned out. And when you tune out, you don't get the advertising revenue and we don't get the advertising revenue you you really shouldn't exist anymore you go the way of pbs and npr panhandlers begging for taxpayer assistance luckily president trump ended that this week too that ended overnight that ended npr pbs being defunded overnight as the house finally passed the rescissions bill just in the nick of time it had to be done by today and they pulled it off i'm grateful for that all right i'm also grateful that our next guest is pinch hitting today and uh he's great it's been a while since i've seen him and i'm glad he's here on the 88th episode of vince which of course means it's frank fugazi day brendan dilley joins us right now the host of the dilley show on rumble great guy hello brendan good to have you with us sir hey how you doing vince i'm uh it's an honor to be here with you it's cool to have you on fugazi day too of all days it's amazing that uh that you could be here for this actually the last time you and i saw each other was in the the silverlock studios the dan bongino studio as we were doing the the big handoff uh special and dan was uh just announced that he was heading off to the fbi that was a that was a big day and i still i think a lot about that day yeah it was a it was really a special day because we knew he was heading off for a totally new adventure and uh i would say that the first four or five months has definitely been an adventure Yes.

38:14Dan Bongino:Yes. So we saw this staga play out in the media like a week or so ago where, oh, Dan is squaring off with Pam Bondi and there's an ultimatum that's been issued and he may leave if she doesn't. And yet the way it's settled up in the end is Dan is clearly back at work. He's he's plugging away. He's doing the job. Brendan, give me your thoughts on what do you think Dan is up to if he's you know, he's not doing this right now. Why is he doing that? Yeah, well, I think he's he's working really hard on some some very important things, and it's probably not the thing that most people are focused on, which is a lot of this Epstein stuff.

38:51I think that I think, you know, it's kind of a side conversation from the reality inside of the FBI and the DOJ. There's far more important cases. Certainly anything involving James Comey, John Brennan, anything involving the 2020 election and election fraud in general are going to take extreme precedent over this sort of side conversation. I think this one just happens to be the thing that is most interesting because it had the most probably conspiratorial interest over the last 10 years. And some of it's probably very true and some of it's probably complete fabrication. And the sad part is given that whatever our FBI got their hands on was inherited from the Biden FBI, I sincerely doubt there's going to be much of anything that actually comes of it just just because of that.

39:41Like if there was anything there on the president, obviously they would have already pursued it and released it to the public. And I doubt that they're going to allow anything to stay in those files that would implicate any of their own people. So I think it's a big nothing burger, frankly.

39:56Dan Bongino:Yeah, the old the old work product from the Biden era FBI is going to has to be immediately suspect. Anything that they have in their possession or don't have in their possession. It's just it's got to be a complete mess. So what they're dealing with now is what do they do going forward? So I have a hunch about this. And you mentioned Brandon and Comey. I'm in the same space as you are on this thing. Look, I just want to reiterate a point and get your reaction to it. Dan Bongino does not leave this gig to go to the FBI for any personal advantage whatsoever. There's no resume enhancement that comes from this.

40:29Dan Bongino:There's no pay raise that comes from this. There's no great quality of life that comes from this. There's nothing glamorous about this job. That job is a hard and relentless job, actually. So the only reason a man like Dan does that job is because he thinks he can achieve some sort of measurable and detectable success for the rest of us. When you say going after John Brennan and James Comey, now you've got my appetite going. I feel like it could be that very much. Yeah, no, and you're absolutely correct, Vince. This was a man who sacrificed. He made a legitimate sacrifice by every measurement, right?

41:06Sacrificed time with his family, sacrificed financially, sacrificed fame because he's no longer in front of the public every single day doing what he loves. So this was someone who felt called to serve and went and did just that and is trying to get to the bottom of the weaponization of our FBI and other intelligence agencies. Obviously, John Brennan is extremely suspect. And, you know, these guys aren't going to stop until they get to the bottom of things. And it doesn't mean that it's going to be what maybe all Trump supporters hope it is. It could be something totally different. but that's really all you can ask for is is get to the bottom of it find the truth of whatever the issue is so we can begin addressing it and making sure it never happens again and i can live with that whether it means somebody like james comey ends up finding himself you know being criminally investigated and actually being put behind bars or if it's discovered that he did some things that were inappropriate but he it's not illegal uh i'm okay with that too i just want to know what the truth of it is so we can remedy the situation and make sure it never happens again and i think Dan's going to do that.

42:10And and he has been doing that. I mean, it's it's absurd to watch people think that there's some gigantic boogeyman that when a person like Dan or Cash or President Trump gets into power, somehow pulls them aside and says, you're not allowed to do what you came here to do. It's absurd. And the president proves that every single day. And so do so do Cash and Dan, frankly. Yes.

42:34Dan Bongino:And actually, on that on that front, if you're interested in pedophiles getting busted and thrown behind bars, this FBI has arrested hundreds of them and they've saved hundreds of kids, too, in the process. And that that continues to happen. And they deserve credit for that, because if that's if that's your issue, boy, they're delivering for you. No question. Let me get your reaction to the Wall Street Journal doodle gate thing from overnight. I just went through it for the audience. But as I understand it, the Wall Street Journal piece is that 22 years ago, President Trump is alleged to have doodled a picture of a naked woman.

43:08Dan Bongino:Brendan, your reaction to this breaking news? Vince, I made my own doodle last night, like being funny. And then it went like super viral. And then these other big accounts were sharing it. And it was like, I was like cutting and pasting and drawing because it's such a ridiculous story. The entire thing, it's actually incredible to me that somebody hit send and publish on that article, knowing, knowing like Trump's going to own you, man. There's easier ways to sell Donald Trump, the Wall Street Journal, than simply giving it to him by defaming him with the most absurd story I have probably ever seen.

43:49and and yet they did it and and then and now they're saying today that they don't even actually have the letter in question in their possession so this is looking like second-hand information that they didn't even actually possess and then they published it and i i'm stunned i can't wait

44:10Dan Bongino:for part two when we find out that president trump used a sharpie and wrote inside of a bathroom stall call rosie for a good time you know it's gonna be that's gonna be a real barn burner uh unreal that they've even published that i saw this morning um susan crabtree had a really fascinating connection in all of this too um she said and fellas if you if you don't mind take me full screen on this so i can show everybody um susan crabtree said the following uh trump's the the the wall street journal one of the wall street journal reporters who broke the story alleging that Trump wrote this letter to Epstein for his 50th birthday.

44:48Dan Bongino:The reporter worked for an outlet called Main Justice before he worked at the Wall Street Journal. Main Justice was Glenn Simpson's wife's publication. Glenn Simpson founded Fusion GPS. That's the group that was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC to make the Steele dossier. And so just to compound all of this, Brendan, Like what we have now is Susan Crabtree is dug up really quickly that this is connected to Fusion GPS. Dude, there's a Fusion GPS connection to this stupid story. You literally couldn't make this up if you tried, Vince. It's so poorly executed. And then the fact that it all leads back to the same places that came up with the same ridiculous stuff we've heard for nine years, eight, nine years now.

45:42and they're still pushing it and it's it's really odd to see too vince because the people that are involved in this this sort of uh effort to smear the president haven't evolved at all and yet the public has so what a smear that used to maybe kind of catch some get some you know legs in 2016 in 2017 in 2025 it's debunked within hours and you're being mocked relentlessly.

46:10Dan Bongino:Yes. We're all so much more literate now, aren't we? I mean, in terms of media, like we're all dialed in. It was like, I can smell the BS coming off of this thing a mile away. The second you see things like he's using the word enigma to describe whatever, and like the, and just the poetry of it, it's like Trump doesn't talk this way. I don't know about you, in fact, I do know about you. You and I have spent so long watching this guy speak. We've read so many transcripts with his words never once did they ever appear in a sequence that looked like the stuff that the wall street journal just published no and you know what's interesting about that vince to your point language is like a fingerprint a lot of people don't realize that is there you're not going to have that much variance uh in your life over the course of your life in how you uh phonetically uh put words together and how you describe things and how you lay them out.

47:07This letter that they're asserting was written by president Trump is a total outlier from thousands, hundreds of thousands of notes and letters. We all have access to view, including me. I have one, I have three different letters from president Trump and none of them even remotely resemble what this, this letter looks like. And, and I've, I know several other people that have received notes and letters from him. This is not how he speaks at all. It's not even in the same realm. And I, again, I sit back and I'm astonished that somebody actually said, let's publish this. Yes. Knowing what the consequences of that were going to be.

47:46Yeah.

47:47Dan Bongino:So you will, you alluded earlier in the conversation, Brendan, to the fact that there's been some division on the right about, you know, getting Epstein files out and the, the, since the, the intensity with which we should be focused on that issue. And so there's been a fight within the family. People have been talking about it. They're taking different positions on it. That's fine. But I wonder if you think the left has overplayed its hand in the midst of all of this, because you got a bunch of Democrat congressmen all of a sudden for the first time in their lives, pretending like they're interested in the Epstein files.

48:17Dan Bongino:Pramila Jayapal and Jamie Raskin going on television going, we want the Epstein files. And then even CNN is asking them, are you serious? MSNBC is asking, are you serious? You've never mentioned this before. ever and they're like oh yeah yeah no no we're we're totally serious now and my sense of what just happened brendan is the left rather than letting the right fight it out they so overplayed their hand that now the right is once again closing ranks and they're like we know who our real enemies are we're gonna fight the left again we're done with this infighting correct well and this is what the left always does they're they're the absolute kings of overplaying their hand and totally destroying themselves.

48:57And they did it yet again. All they had to do was really sit back and leave it alone. They have no wins. You know, they're polling 19 % among Americans or something really crazy low. You know, they have nothing to hang their hat on. They've got Cory Booker crying and storming out of hearings yesterday. Like there's really not any energy for that party or that movement. And what happened was, and I figured this out fairly quickly the last three days, is they were taking Trump supporters' posts And then they were dropping them onto Blue Sky. And then what they were doing was they were having all those Blue Sky accounts come back over to Twitter or X.

49:33And they're pretending to be Trump supporters that are saying, we want this. And they're demanding and they're unhinged and they're weird. And so in their minds, they're thinking, yeah, we're going to pile on. We're totally going to get Trump and we're going to pretend to be. And it just completely backfired yet again. And now here we are.

49:50Dan Bongino:Wait, so wait. So they were astroturfing responses in order to inflame the debate. I'm sorry. Isn't that what they said the Russia collusion hoax was? Yes. That they were astroturfed interjections in order to screw up the American debate. Gosh, it feels it's so crazy. And that's what they do, Vince. It's such a small minority now that you figure they're dropping it into these, you know, these chat rooms or whatever on or, you know, these forums where it's a few thousand people. it's not millions it's a few thousand people and they hang out all day on social media and they're like okay we're just going to astroturf and make it look like there's this huge trump division and you know the dead giveaway is vince is when the public perception if you just use social media is wow there must be some kind of schism going on and then the polling comes out and the reality is america is supporting president trump more than ever and he's up in the polls in the last week And that's where you have that that split where you go, OK, this is an astroturf campaign because the polling is reflecting what real Americans are saying.

50:53And social media has now diverged because they are astroturfing and trying to skew public opinion.

50:59Dan Bongino:Yeah, that's right. And also, like, it's so low IQ to say that just because somebody disagrees with the president on one issue means that they're abandoning him entirely. It's like, no, it's not at all. In fact, one of the things I like about the right is that we engaged in much more nuanced debates than the left does. They're like they're they're so cultish on the left. Meanwhile, like a lot of people that I know, like, yeah, they want full transparency on Epstein, but they love Trump. They love what Trump has done and they still support him all heartedly. Well, you know what the dead giveaway is to Vince for that in that regard?

51:29I think you can always tell somebody that is genuine in their support of President Trump, but maybe wants more information or is pushing back slightly on certain issues because the way they go about it is very respectful and inquisitive versus the ones that you can tell are sort of gritting their teeth and don't like him. they become i think that they get very vitriolic very fast and uh and they are it's just a different approach and it's it's it's nuanced but you can recognize it you can tell who is genuinely trying to get to the bottom of something or find out a solution versus people who are really trying to play nice with maga because they know that they don't have a brand without it and there is a lot of those people as well they're gritting their teeth and they're just hoping he goes away eventually because they want their platform back yeah no i i'm on guard for that people who hold

52:19Dan Bongino:their nose have contempt for maga but sort of sing the hymn just because they want to pretend like 100 pretend like they're a part of it i don't like that uh brendan dilly you're a good man and it's great to see you again i hope i get to do that again sometime soon you as well vince thank you for having me man there there he is brendan dilly the dilly show the dilly meme team uh they're uh they're staying busy grateful that uh he's he's with me today um you know on this uh on this point that everything is that the the numbers are good for president trump um here is scott jennings on cnn last night scott jennings who who always is in a in a room full of poisonous air he is the breath of fresh air uh here he is saying look trump's approval rating is only going up take a look, cut five facts of Donald Trump's base are this.

53:07And we reported on this this morning here on CNN. Since the Epstein business started, his job approval among Republicans has gone up, gone up. He's over 90 percent with Republicans. It's not hurting him with his base. I know you're a Democratic strategist, maybe not an expert on the MAGA base in his base. But look what's very frustrated. But look what's happening. He's gone up. Why? Because while we're all sitting here dealing with this nonsense. Out in real America, he's signing legislation on fentanyl. He's talking about the AI future in Pennsylvania. He's securing the border. Big, beautiful bill.

53:39So his numbers are going up with Republicans. This is a fantasy that Democrats have been engaging in since January that Republicans would abandon. No, no, Scott, do not. It's not happening. Do not try to do this on Democrats. Every night I sit here and listen to a Democrat tell me Republicans don't support Trump, and they do. They do.

53:57Dan Bongino:And they do. And they do. Isn't it nice to hear some truth breakout on one of those panels from time to time? Scott Jennings, I just we were talking, as always here on the team, we were talking about, you know, guests for shows coming up. And I said, you know, I want Scott Jennings to come on the show. We'll have to talk to Scott. So hopefully he can do it. And hopefully CNN doesn't throw shit if we have him on, which would be good. It would be nice to talk to Scott because I don't know how he goes in there and does that all the time. Yet he does, and he stays cheerful. Scott has executed a move that is rare in television, by the way.

54:29Dan Bongino:He knows how to work the camera. A lot of people go on these TV sets, and they don't know that when you're sitting in a panel environment, that you can actually draw the audience in instantly by just taking your shot and looking directly at them and being like, look what I'm dealing with. Look what I'm dealing with over here. Scott does this flawlessly. uh it is it's it's a real talent that the guy's got uh but yeah i think he'd be good you want him on the show chat scott channings yeah he's getting getting some positive feedback on that i think that'd be good he would be an awesome guest he's a he seems like a good dude i've never met him but i'd be i'd be grateful to talk to him that would be good you heard uh brendan dilly a moment ago talking about how um meanwhile in the midst of doodle gate and everything else The president's agenda is moving forward really nicely.

55:19Dan Bongino:In fact, the president yesterday just got one of his judicial nominees advancing through the Senate, not all the way to a final vote yet. But it created rage inside of the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday by the Democrats as they were completely feckless. They were completely impotent to try and stop this. So instead, they stomped their feet in anger and they stormed out of the room and they left Spartacus behind to try and interrupt the whole process. Take a look. Cut six as there's chaos in the Senate yesterday. Democrats can't stop this train. Sir, with all appeals to your decency, with all appeals to your integrity, with all appeals to past jurisdiction and past precedent, why are you doing this?

56:09This is outrageous. This is a kangaroo court. That's what we have here, Mr. Chairman. To violate your own rules without going by the mandates of the parliamentarian. This is unbelievable. There's a way to do this. If you want to force this through, if you want to ram this through, there's a way to do it in accordance to the rules as spelled out by the parliamentarian. It is simple. It is clear. There's a pathway to achieve what you're trying to achieve. Speaking of cult-like behavior. But, sir, this lacks decency. It lacks decorum. It shows that you do not want to simply hear from your colleagues.

56:49This is absolutely wrong.

56:53Dan Bongino:Unreal. Well, it's typical. It's typical. The Democrats all storm out. You see crazy Mazie Hirono get up and just yell something into the microphone. This is unfair. This is awful. No, it's not. This is the way it works, sweetheart. You lost. You don't have the power. You can't run this thing. Yeah, we are. We're completely done with it. And here's the other thing to remember. It didn't have to be this way. Guess who blew up the filibuster in order to make it so that judicial nominees could be put through on a simple majority? Who did that? Who did that? oh that was harry reid senate democrat who blew up the filibuster for that invoked the nuclear option to say that you only need a simple majority vote to get these judicial nominees through thanks harry president trump is doing it he's doing it and now crazy mazio rono and company is storming out of the room incensed that the president of the united states has this power who gave it to us democrats thanks thanks a lot fellas how you doing worked out great man i hope you have the greatest freaking weekend ever uh and uh i appreciate you all being here we've got a big radio show coming up today uh it's the vince show we call it this one's called vince that one's called the vince show it's not the most creative thing in the world but it's easy to remember it's easier than my last name uh the vince show and if you want to find out more information about your local listings, you can do that at thevinceshow.com.

58:18Dan Bongino:Find out where to listen there. Or really simply, if you want to join me live with a video camera and perhaps Major, who is still in the room somewhere. Oh, he's changed positions. He's not on camera anymore. You can kind of see him in the lower right corner of my screen here. Let me see. There he is. He's down there. There he is. Major's having a good time. You can join me live on the radio show rumble.com slash Vince as well. Again, I hope you have a fantastic weekend. Such a blast. Thanks again to Brendan Dilley for pinch hitting today. It was great to talk to him. It'll be great to talk to you again next week on Vince.

58:57Dan Bongino:Have a fantastic weekend.

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