The Obamagate Story Just Got Even Weirder | Episode 98

23:20And they say he opened fire on his own unit there. He sent a cryptic text message to his aunt before the shooting, according to the sergeant's father.

23:30Dan Bongino:Soon the sergeant wrote he would be in a better place. So this guy thought that he was going to die. This was a suicide by cop. He was going to open fire and thought that he would be killed in the attack. Five soldiers were wounded in the attack at Fort Stewart Hunter Army Airfield Wednesday morning. It ended when other soldiers tackled the gunman. The victims are expected to recover. Officials have identified the suspect as Sergeant Cornelius Radford, 28 years old, an automated logistics sergeant from Jacksonville, Florida, assigned to the 2nd Brigade Combat Team. The New York Times says they talked to the guy's dad.

24:07and the father suggested that he had complained about racism at Fort Stewart and has since conducted an attack, but they have him in custody. That's a very big deal. Here's the Secretary of the Army this morning after six soldiers were awarded medals already this morning for their valor in yesterday's attack. Take a look as the Secretary of the Army describes their actions. One of the more important things we were able to do this morning, though, is to recognize the heroism of these six soldiers. One of the soldiers tackled the person. So just think about this. They were unarmed and ran at and tackled an armed person who they knew was actively shooting their buddies, their colleagues, their fellow soldiers.

24:55Another soldier jumped on top of the person to subdue them until federal law enforcement was able to arrive. The other soldiers immediately using their training that they had developed over years and years started to take care of mass casualties. The hospital they took them to in March had just run a mass casualty exercise for a moment just like this. The Army does not want these moments to happen, but it stands ready when necessary to act and care for those when it does. Love hearing the soldiers reacted the way that you'd expect soldiers to react with with valor and without concern for personal well-being.

25:33They just got in there and they tackled these guys. This guy, they were all unarmed on that base. The gunman, of course, the only one with the gun in that situation. For more on this, I want to bring in some expert help. Scott Bryson is a former Secret Service agent, a law enforcement guy with a lot of expertise in self-defense. He teaches it all the time. Scott, thank you for helping us out today, sir. Appreciate you being here. Hey, Vince, thank you for having me. It's a pleasure to be here. What do you make of this, this attack? What do you what do you think went down here? Well, I think we're learning more, obviously, than through the night than we learned yesterday.

26:08I did some research on it and I couldn't find a whole lot on it to hear you report on the alleged racism comments that his father made. I think that's that's a trend in the wrong direction. So I I'm not really sure, you know, I'm not inside this man's brain. Right. But we talk about it all the time. You know, evil has a way of manifesting it, manifesting itself. And racism is usually a ploy that they use or mental health. It doesn't doesn't excuse it. This is absolutely ridiculous. And I'm so glad that the army has already awarded these guys because talk about heroism. You know, that's just that's acting out of straight courage.

26:49Give me your sense of the way people should react in a situation like this. You know, guy starts opening fire. Nobody around him apparently is armed. That's that's by design, I would say somewhat unfortunately, that even soldiers, men who are trained to use weapons are not allowed to carry them. And yet they still reacted by by tackling the shooter. Assess what you can about a situation like that. Yeah. Well, first of all, these gun free zones are ridiculous. These cowards show up where they know the people that they're going to attack can't fight back. So that is a straight beta if there ever was.

27:24What a coward. So I think, number one, we have to we have to do away with some of this gun free nonsense. The Second Amendment is a beautiful thing and we need to operate under the color of the law for sure. I'm not I'm not suggesting that people break the law, but we need to be able to defend ourselves. number one. Number two, there's a thing called the OODA loop. You may be familiar with it. Most of your audience probably is. It's you observe it, you orient it, you decide and you act. And the person that's going to get through that OODA loop the fastest usually wins the day. And that's what these guys did.

27:59They saw the problem, they reacted and they made a decision and they jumped on it. You know, the human body is designed for fight or flight. And I know not everybody's a fighter and that's okay. But you have to do something. If you freeze in these moments, you're going to be another casual.

28:15Dan Bongino:So the message there is don't hesitate. Once you make a decision about what you're going to do, commit to it. You have to commit. You have to, obviously, observing it's pretty easy. And then you orient yourself to it. I think what happens in police, in police work and military talk, a lot of the jargon is you get stuck in your OODA loop. So guys see it, but they can't make a decision. Or if they make a decision, they get frozen and can't act. You have to act. And you know what? Here's the thing. Running is OK. If you have to run, that's OK. But if you're running, you should be on 9-1-1 right now.

28:49It is remarkable. You have to believe it changes the math for a shooting like this to take place among soldiers, soldiers who are already conditioned to be prepared for combat, some of whom I'm sure that were in that shooting had seen combat. They reacted swiftly. this is an unusual circumstance where somebody opens fire like this in such a dramatic mass

29:11Dan Bongino:shooting event and yet is tackled and kept alive. It's pretty clear based on the messages I was reading this morning, Scott. This guy thought that he was going to have a suicide by cop. And I'd say if there's anything fortunate here, one is that nobody lost their life. And two, it's that he didn't get to dictate the own terms of his exit. No, I think that's right. A lot of times these people who, you know, unfortunately do want to take their own lives, don't have the courage to do so. So suicide by cop is a real thing. And you have to remember, if you're at work, minding your own business, and you're not expecting this to happen, if a person comes in doing that, they're not there to wound you.

29:47Thank God these people were just wound, but they are there to kill you. And they're most likely going to want to die themselves. So you have to be prepared to act violently and quickly. And that's not everybody's going to want to necessarily pick up a pair of scissors and do something with those scissors, you know, but we have things in the office that can, that can help protect ourselves if need be. Worst case. The point you're making is that when you're confronted with deadly force, it is appropriate to meet it with deadly force. A hundred percent. I've been in law enforcement for 30 years. And this past summer, we watched a video of a police officer running over a man with a rifle walking down the street in Arizona or somewhere, I forget.

30:30And the younger police officers in the room thought that that was egregious. But no, lethal force, lethal force is lethal force. If someone's trying to kill you, you have the right to defend yourself, period. Obviously, the military is a different environment than for most of us in civilian life. But Scott, do you think that the president of the United States and the secretary of defense should contemplate changing the rules on base around around military service members being able to carry their own weapons. Yes, absolutely. I don't understand all the nuance when it comes to military base protocol and policy because I wasn't in the military.

31:09But the Second Amendment should apply to everyone, right? If you're 18 years old and can join the military and go die for your country, why can't you defend yourself when you're at work? That's ridiculous. Yeah, especially if you're trained to shoot accurately. It actually makes things safer in the end. Thank you very much. Scott Bryson, appreciate you, sir. Great to have you here today. Thank you, Vince. All right. That's Scott Bryson, Secret Service alum, law enforcement guy, self-defense expert. He's done it all. Appreciate him helping us break that down, what's happening in Fort Stewart. And so we're picking up the pieces of that breaking news.

31:41If anything else transpires from that in a big way, we'll cover it here on the podcast or we'll cover it on the big national radio show each day from 12 to three Eastern time. All right.

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34:59Yes, indeed. All right, so we'll be joined here coming up by Mr. John Solomon, and we'll get an update from him on what exactly is happening with the Trump-Russia collusion hoax and the investigation into that. I think that's going to be worthwhile. Before we bring John in, though, I want to share some things going on with, let's see, should we cover, oh, the Tim Cook event yesterday was really funny, guys, wasn't it? So Apple has decided that they would like to stay on President Trump's good side.

35:35Dan Bongino:And if you've noticed the stock market last night and today, Apple is doing very well right now. And the reason for that is really clear. At the moment, the president of the United States is not imposing tariffs on smartphone imports. But what he was able to secure in exchange for not imposing those tariffs is that Apple has just announced that they're going to be dumping a lot of money into the United States. Apple has just pledged in the last 24 hours to spend yet another$100 billion. That's now$600 billion in commitment from Apple, which is great. That's big news. They're going to be making lots of glass inside of the United States that they use in their products, like the iPhone and the Apple Watch.

36:28Wonderful.

36:29Dan Bongino:Here is Tim Cook yesterday, cut to presenting President Trump with a very unique Apple product. And this is a this is something they've never made for anybody else except for President Trump. Show them a little bit about the product that you're going to be doing in Kentucky, Tim. Do you mind? Yes, please. This box was made in the U.S., California. And this glass comes off the horning line. It's engraved for President Trump. It's a unique unit of one. It was designed by a U.S. Marine Corps corporal, a former one that works at Apple now. He's done well. It's designed for you. And the base comes from Utah.

37:19Show them a little bit about the product that you're doing in Kentucky, Tim. So they made the glass and the gold base for this basically award that Apple made for President Trump were made in the United States from Apple's facilities here in America. And those numbers are going up very rapidly. $600 billion investment is not a small deal. It's a lot of money that Apple is committing to the United States. And the second and third order effects of that are you will have not only money spent in the United States, but those incomes then spent over and over and over for U.S. businesses and all of the other ancillary business interests that are here in America.

38:00So here we have a president. Biden never got this, by the way. He never secured investment like this. This is a Trump only special. And Apple is desperate to impress the president because they know that his overriding concern is how many American jobs can we create? That is fantastic news. And here you have this morning, literally this morning, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson, for some reason on Morning Joe. But he was there, cut seven, saying it's not just the hundreds of billions that Apple is sending our way. We're bringing in trillions and trillions. Take a look at this. We're seeing these very large commitments, both from governments and from corporates.

38:39Tim Cook was in the Oval yesterday. Apple had committed 500 billion of new plant and equipment in the U.S. He's up to 600 billion. And he wants to make Apple an American company in terms of manufacturing, not just design. We've seen Micron Technologies. They were in visiting this week. They're going to put in 200 billion. So we've got trillions and trillions of manufacturing that's going to come back. And we're going to see that over the next couple of years. Yeah. Love that. Very good. Last thing for the Apple development is take a look at President Trump concluding the event yesterday, cut three, by calling Tim Cook a nerd.

39:24This is my favorite. I want to thank Tim Cook. He's a great, great man, a visionary, a businessman, just about every quality he can have other than athleticism. I don't know. I'm looking at him. I'm not 100 percent sure about you. You're a good athlete. I bet you're pretty good. I think he's good at everything, but I want to thank you very much, Tim. Congratulations. Thank you all.

39:46Dan Bongino:He's got everything except for athleticism. Ladies and gentlemen, don't you forget it. No one is ever going to do it like this guy ever again. So just appreciate these moments while we have them. They're so good. All right. But, you know, if it was up to the left, we would have never had these moments. They tried to stop him. Hillary Clinton cooked up a whole scheme to stop him. It didn't work. But untangling that scheme, well, that's underway right now. And the guy who's following it perhaps closer than anybody is my next guest. John Solomon is the founder of Just the News. John, as always, good to see you, sir.

40:20Dan Bongino:Thank you for being here. Good to be with you, Vince. Love the show. I appreciate you. And so we've got a lot of developments, at least the public components of it that we're observing that seem promising to me. I'd like to see some justice here. The Justice Department announcing that they want to impanel a grand jury to go after this entire scheme dating back to 2016. What can you tell us about how real this is and what the pieces of it are going to look like in the coming weeks? Yeah, listen, I think it has a potential to be real, but it comes down to the decisions that Pam Bondi and the Justice Department make.

40:55Where do they put that grand jury? Do they investigate it narrowly, looking at things that are eight years old, or do they investigate it as Kash Patel's FBI opened up, which is as one grand conspiracy case, a decade-long effort to misuse the color of authority of government to violate the civil liberties of Americans so that they could have a political advantage. Because that's really what this story is at the end of the day. We've had political dirty tricks as long as politics has been alive in America. Listen, the 1790s and the 1850s were just as rough and tumble politics as we have today, maybe even more so.

41:30We used to have some duels in Washington. I mean, literally, with guns. We used to have duels. But here, and for the first time in the history of our country, we allowed a political dirty trick to be carried out by the FBI and the CIA and the intelligence community. That's a Rubicon we had never before passed in our history. I remember, I'm young enough, old enough to remember, and was a student of Watergate as well. But the Watergate hearings, the moment that the Republican Party turned on Richard Nixon was the moment that they learned that he had asked the CIA to block the FBI from investigating the break-in.

42:05Just the mere thought of using the CIA to take care of a political problem was enough for an entire political party to bolt from their president. Now we have a CIA and FBI that clearly were fully implicated in Hillary Clinton's dirty trick. And the Democratic Party doesn't even see a thing wrong. They want to just say nothing to see here after lying to us about that for 10 years. That is a big, big issue for the American public, because if we allow this to go unpunished, we will go from the greatest constitutional republic to the biggest banana republic overnight. The grand jury will most likely be in Florida if it does the grand conspiracy, because Florida is where Jack Smith's last acts were, and then you wind your way back to 16.

42:50I also think this is big enough to look like the civil rights investigations that we did in the 70s with the CIA and the FBI. It may be time for Congress to think about a truth commission. Get the American people the truth in a comprehensive and coherent way. Some of the story is hard to tell, but a truth commission could help the American people realize this is in the epic annals of scandals in American history. One thing that we heard this week from the director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, is that right now the Justice Department is requesting more documents from her dating back to 2016.

43:30Dan Bongino:What that tells me, John, is that even though the statute of limitations would have already run on individual crimes, that if you're requesting documents to 2016, you're doing a conspiracy case. Meaning you this is this sounds to me like a very real conspiracy investigation. Yeah, I think that's where they're headed. And that's where that's where the predicate is set up by the FBI. And what I will say in great credit to both the FBI director and the attorney general is that they're following the norms. They're not hijacking cases like James Comey did when he'd bring his magic wand on and make things disappear.

44:05They're following the norms. Career FBI people open up a case. justice evaluates that, appoints a strike force because it's a very complicated conspiracy case. We only appoint strike forces for things like the mob and drug cartels. So now the Obama administration and its successors are being viewed in that same light. And then after the strike force gets up and running and you start to see some of the early evidence, you go and get a grand jury. So they're following the norms, which ought to be refreshing to the American people that were following the process that career people normally follow and not some politically hijacked retribution investigations.

44:39So it's following the way the Justice Department used to work. Whenever we talk about stories like this, I often measure their authenticity based on how much screeching I hear from the left.

44:49Dan Bongino:And we're hearing a lot of it right now. Oh, yeah. How do you assess the left's reaction to this? John Brennan certainly seems like the guy with the most obvious evidence against him. What's going on there? I think they all realize that this is a moment of consequence, whether it's a criminal moment of consequence will depend on what the grand jurors think when they see the full body of evidence. But all of them know that the cover story that they've been getting away with on CNN and MSNBC is being pierced every day, that their old stories look foolish to the American people now, that you can't pull the wool over the American people's eyes anymore.

45:26And for people like Barack Obama, you know, at this point in his life, what's left for him is his legacy. And his legacy could be significantly rewritten by the factual basis of what we have. We have a story up today that's, I think, really important. Barack Obama slipped during an interview with National Public Radio in December 2016. He was either the first clairvoyant president in American history, or the fix was in, because he knew on December 18th that the CIA was going to reverse itself and conclude that Vladimir Putin tried to help Donald Trump win, which is opposite of what the intelligence community believed, and they had good reason to come to the opposite conclusion.

46:05But here's the most amazing thing about that. The intelligence community assessment wasn't even, it was just getting started, which means he's either clairvoyant or he knew the fix was in, and he knew they were coming to a predetermined. And it's so amazing to watch Barack Obama, because he says it spontaneously. He leaves the room, the transcript shows, he comes back and like, oh, I got to clarify that. They're still looking at that. He realized that he had given up a golden goose in that interview and made a big mistake. Now, John Durham and Bill Barr could have found that conversation. They didn't.

46:35And that's why those earlier investigations were weak. Will the current investigation go that far and find these things and impeach these politicians for lying to us? That's going to be a big question. There's a lot that I want to ask you about. Bob Mueller is one of the guys who was just sent a subpoena by the House Oversight Committee. The House Oversight Committee is looking for answers in the Epstein case. Oh, yeah. But my fervent hope is that they ask questions about both the Russiagate stuff and the Epstein case while they have these people in front of them. But Bob Mueller catches a subpoena.

47:08There are a number of outlets reporting, and perhaps you have more information on this, John, that Bob Mueller is in a home for the memory impaired now. It is pretty obvious to those of us who watched his testimony in 2019 that he was falling short of being able to string it all together.

47:24Dan Bongino:Yeah. You know, this to me, if that's true, what that conveys, John, is that they definitely used that guy and they used whatever shred of credibility he had left as a weapon against Trump. I think that's right. I listen. The more interesting person to subpoena, now that they've determined that Bob Mueller is ill, is Andrew Weissman. He basically was running and he was the shadow special counsel for the second half of that investigation. Mueller was, I think, fully in charge at the beginning. That's why they dumped the Steele dossier right away. They told Pete Strzok, we don't want you working for us.

47:59Mueller realized that this was a crack of ditty and he didn't want to be involved with it. And then as he started to see those signs, you saw Andrew Weissman take more and more of a role. And I think Andrew Weissman will be the next person subpoenaed in that if we get to that thing. Now, keep in mind, they want Mueller to go back to 08 because the real tragedy of Epstein is that the Bush Justice Department ignored their responsibilities and gave that man a sweetheart deal. Yes. And Alberto Gonzalez and the U.S. attorney and the FBI agents who worked that case, they need to answer for why they let a clear human trafficking operation go with a little tap on the finger.

48:40So among the people that they've sent subpoenas to in this are Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Alberto Gonzalez, as you mentioned, there's a number of people. Eric Holder has already been held in contempt of Congress for his own behavior during Operation Fast and Furious. But that that was never prosecuted because guess who was the attorney general?

48:59Dan Bongino:Eric Holder. So they prosecute it. But if Eric Holder or anybody, any one of these other guys fail to appear before Congress, having received a lawful subpoena, will Republicans, in your view, hold them in contempt of Congress? I believe they will, because we now have the Bannon and Navarro standard. And that is fresh in the minds of a lot of members of Congress who thought that wasn't the appropriate way to go or certainly not the consistent way to go. Maybe it is the appropriate way, but it wasn't consistent with how Congress acted in the past. So nobody's going to get a pass in this environment anymore.

49:32I think this version of Republicans with Donald Trump constantly holding a blowtorch to the backside of everyone, they're going to get stuff done. They have a little bit more courage. And when they lose that courage, Donald Trump turns up the temperature until they find their courage. And I think that this is going to be a very no excuses made. And I think what you may see eventually is that these different individual committees come together and potentially create one large truth commission. And we just look at the era of weaponization, much like we looked at the CIA and FBI abuses during the 1970s timeframe where Congress put together an extraordinary, the Church Commission.

50:10It was a truth commission. We may need something like that because this is so epic in terms of how much abuse occurred during those 10 years. I'd be for that. The one thing I would be worried about, though, is any delay in justice. The Justice Department needs to move independently of any truth commission. A hundred percent. A hundred percent. In fact, the Justice Department should sit a person in the truth commission hearings every day. And the second someone lies in that hearing, as soon as they walk out, they can just put cuffs on them and take them in because they know the truth. And I think the great risk here for Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton is they're going to try to keep the cover story.

50:44And that cover story could walk them into new crimes right now beyond the conspiracy case, which I think you rightly see.

50:50Dan Bongino:OK, last thing, The Washington Post overnight produced a piece that claims that Tulsi Gabbard had to override CIA officials concerns in a push to declassify all of this Russian information. and when I see CIA official concerns I'm pretty sure they don't mean John Ratcliffe the director of the CIA what they mean is deep state CIA of people who are still there creating a resistance against the kind of transparency we've been getting from the government what can you tell us about all this yeah I know a lot about this I may have even been approached at some point by the CIA because I've been advocating for the release of the hipsy it's the hipsy report the Devin Nunes report.

51:34There was just one passage that they fought over, which ultimately, Tulsi Gabbert erred on the side of giving the American people the maximum transparency. But there was one passage that does reveal the existence of a spy and a spy program that they were, I think, concerned about. I don't think this was a large deep state plot. I think it was a legitimate debate over one thing. I think at the end of the day, Tulsi Gabbert did the American public a favor. It's 10 years. If you haven't been able to figure out how to protect these programs, it's a little late to argue. But I think it was a legitimate argument over sources and methods.

52:09It wasn't the whole report. We're not releasing the whole report. It was just one item in it.

52:14Dan Bongino:But if you're interested in protecting sources and methods and you're the government, then you should be absolutely scandalized by John Brennan's behavior in 2016, because John Brennan finds out that Hillary Clinton is orchestrating this fake hoax. He contacts Russia. We just found out in the declassified annex. He contacts Russia and he goes, we know about this intel. And then suddenly that intel dries up because John Brennan tipped them off about our sources and methods, John. Yeah. No, listen, Brennan has so much to answer for. He's such an important person in this entire methodology. And, you know, a Comey, James Comey is another one.

52:52There's no chance that James Comey doesn't know that he's investigating something that was a political dirty trick and manufactured. And I go back to what I said at the beginning of Watergate. When people turned on Nixon, the Republicans turned on Nixon when they realized he had asked the CIA, just asked them to maybe stop the FBI from investigating the burglary. It didn't actually, the CIA actually didn't do it. But just the mere asking caused this party to vote for him. Here, you've got the CIA and the FBI both manipulating and taking overt, consistent, and continuous actions to mislead the American people, abuse the tools that they were given, turn them against the American people and the person they had just elected, Donald Trump.

53:33This is epically more CIA and FBI involvement and wrongdoing than anything we saw in Watergate. And the Democrats are nothing to see here. Please, it's Russian disinformation. I think Comey and Brennan are going to be the two central characters that we're going to see a lot about in the next few weeks. Well, that's what John Ratcliffe certainly indicated a couple of weeks ago, that they're the two. They're involved in the conspiracy. And the reason we know so much about this is because you're a great reporting. John Solomon, Just the News. Thank you, Vince. Appreciate you, as always. Yeah, I love your show.

54:02Thanks, man. I love your show, too. That's John Solomon. He's great. And always so good to have him on this subject, especially. Okay. So we'll keep our eyes open for what comes next. There is supposed to be more declassification coming in the days and weeks ahead, too. That's what the reports are indicating. So whatever pops up, we will share it with you here.

54:25Dan Bongino:And I will, let me just depend kind of a general thought on it, because I was kind of keeping an eye on the chat as we were going. And as always, there's going to be people who think that, hey, nothing will come of this. And that may very well be the case. You might be right. Nothing, maybe nothing does come of it. And I will be disappointed. And I know the effect of that at a societal level is it would disenchant people even more from thinking that they have any role in influencing the nature of our system or riding this ship. And as they check out of politics, the effect of that is going to be that the left will win if you check out.

54:56That's just the truth. And, you know, I'm not saying people here are going to check out, but I'm saying at a societal level, that effect could happen. So this is why it's so deeply

55:06Dan Bongino:important that these Republicans in Congress get President Trump the U.S. attorneys he needs to support the prosecutions that John and I were just talking about. The fact that these guys failed to go into a real recess to allow President Trump to make recess appointments is insane to me. It is completely insane. It is suicidal that these Republicans did this. They need to get their acts together quickly. The impact on the midterms will be profound. Republicans will find themselves back in the political wilderness if they can't get this right. We want the economy to be sound. We want the borders to be secured, and we want accountability for the people who've broken our laws.

55:51That's the key. That's the absolute key. So it's, you know, this is a very big deal. And the left wants you to give this up, by the way. The left would desperately like for you to give this up. That's the reason why every time this subject comes up, they either say it's fake, that it's a Russian conspiracy or something for us to be talking about it now, or they say that this is a distraction from Epstein. No, no, no, we're not distracted. Unlike you, we can handle multiple things at once. We've got a lot of messes to clean up, and this audience wants to see it cleaned up now. We have a great country, and so stay focused on what you care about, and let's see this through to the end.

56:30No matter how long it takes, we're just going to keep fighting them. which is really important. Really, really important. Okay. Let's see what else I have to share with you. Oh, this is great. This is one of the funniest clips I've seen all week. Cut five here, guys. Here's what I want to tell you about. There's chatter going on about what it'll look like, whether or not we can colonize the moon someday, if we could put a

56:57Dan Bongino:nuclear reactor on the moon. It's just going on and on. But over on CBS, they had a very low IQ conversation with this science, this television science guy called Neil deGrasse Tyson. And the host on CBS said, you know, one of the problems with colonizing the moon would be that it's racist. Take a look. If we want to keep growing a population or if we want to live forever, all right, we're going to need we're going to need another planet. So so is that the moon? because, A... I don't want to live on the moon. Right. Is it... Will it serve as a functional life source eventually for human beings?

57:35And, B, we know how the age of colonialism worked on this planet. Should we be trying to colonize and saying that there's a keep-out zone that not other countries can participate in having... The real problem with the colonization history in Western civilization is that there were people already there. There are no moon beings that were displaced. As far as we know.

57:58Dan Bongino:The conversation is so stupid on every level. You know, but that word, colonization, I've been trained to think it's a bad thing. So if we colonize the moon, isn't that a bad thing? Even Neil deGrasse Tyson, of all people, is like, you sound like an idiot. That's Neil deGrasse Tyson's reaction in so many words. But then he was like, well, the real problem with colonization is that there were people there. I'm sorry. Why don't we talk about the virtues of colonization? How come nobody at the table can raise the idea that isn't it nice that colonization brought civilization to the entire Western Hemisphere?

58:35Dan Bongino:Nobody's going to speak up for the advancement of humanity because of colonization? No. No, nothing like that. Nothing like that on CBS. So thanks, fellas. Great conversation. You know that guy? What's his name? I don't even know what the name of the host is. But here's what I do know. He's paid more than all of us to not know anything. Isn't that weird? What is the salary that that guy receives? It's a lot more than any of us. And he's sitting there just freestyling it. Colonization, I think that's a bad word. Great. Good work, CBS. That company. Dying the death it deserves. Hey, thanks as always for joining us on this edition of Vince.

59:19Dan Bongino:Hey, tomorrow, real quick for you. Tomorrow, a couple of quick notes. We're going to do a special edition of Vince. Producer Jim is going to be here. I'm going to have Haley Carineo with me. We're going to have a great conversation. I can't wait for this. It's going to be a lot of fun. We're down here in Florida. I'm going to conclude Florida week right here with the guys. And also, if things work out, Major has just concluded his own vacation and will be joining us tomorrow here. Well, I guess technically he's still on vacation if he's here in Florida. But whatever. The stage of his vacation where he joins me should be tomorrow live right here in Florida.

59:57Dan Bongino:It's going to be great. Great to have you with us as always. Thanks for checking in on this edition of Vince. Up next, Steven Crowder right here on Rumble.

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