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The Dan Bongino Show - Episode 152: The Process Is The Punishment, John Brennan Edition
Episode Overview In this episode, host Dan Bongino discusses the referral of former CIA Director John Brennan for criminal prosecution, Trump’s legal battles, and current political issues including protests and law enforcement actions. The episode features direct commentary from Bongino, with a no-nonsense approach to the political and cultural narratives shaping America.
Key Topics & Discussions
- John Brennan's Criminal Referral
- Overview: John Brennan has been referred by the House Judiciary Committee for criminal prosecution due to false statements made during congressional testimony.
- Key Points:
- Brennan accused of lying about the use of the Steele dossier in intelligence assessments.
- Specific lies include denying CIA involvement in assessing Russian interference and falsely stating the dossier was not part of the CIA's assessment.
- Bongino asserts that Brennan's actions amount to a pattern of lying and government overreach.
- Trump’s Legal Situation
- Trump vs. Justice Department:
- Discussion on Trump’s lawsuits against the Justice Department for wrongful prosecutions, specifically relating to the Mar-a-Lago raid.
- Trump is reportedly seeking $230 million in damages from the Justice Department due to alleged violations of his civil rights.
- Bongino emphasizes the unusual position of Trump suing the department he now oversees and suggests possible charitable avenues for any settlements.
- Portland Protests and Law Enforcement
- Law Enforcement Dynamics:
- Bongino highlights a situation in Portland where federal agents faced harassment from Antifa protesters, with Portland police allegedly protecting the rioters.
- Criticism of the Portland police for failing to support federal law enforcement and enabling unlawful actions.
- Bongino calls for potential use of the Insurrection Act to restore order in cities like Portland and Chicago.
- Political Commentary
- Media Critique:
- Bongino critiques mainstream media for its portrayal of Trump and the left's reaction to his legal battles, suggesting a bias against him.
- Discussion on the narrative that any settlement Trump might receive would be unethical, while contrasting past actions by the Obama administration regarding legal settlements.
- Guest Segment with Amber Duke
- Accountability and Justice: Amber Duke from the Daily Caller joins to discuss accountability for individuals like Brennan and how media narratives shape public perception.
- Immigration Enforcement: Duke comments on immigration policies and the need for broader enforcement actions against illegal aliens.
Key Takeaways
- Accountability in Government: There is a strong emphasis on holding government officials accountable for their actions, with a focus on John Brennan's alleged lies.
- Trump's Legal Maneuvers: Trump’s lawsuits represent a significant part of his political strategy, and the discussion revolves around the implications of these actions for his future.
- Law Enforcement Challenges: The challenges faced by law enforcement in politically charged environments are highlighted, particularly in cities influenced by leftist policies.
- Media Influence: The episode underscores the impact of media narratives on public opinion and political discourse, particularly concerning Trump and his legal issues.
Conclusion The episode features a blend of political analysis and personal commentary from Bongino, focusing on accountability, legal battles, and the challenges facing law enforcement. The discussions reflect Bongino's commitment to uncovering the underlying issues in American politics while advocating for citizens’ rights and lawful governance.
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Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00Dan Bongino:Hey everybody, welcome to Vince on a Wednesday. Holy cow, it is great to have you with us. The best audience anywhere. Glad to have you here. We do have a very big show for you today, as always. John Brennan has been referred for criminal prosecution. Good. That's long overdue. Glad to see that happen. Next step, actually charging the fella. We'll discuss that. Also, the left is trying to cook up a brand new Trump scandal. This will once again, I promise you, be a rake to the face. What is wrong with these lefties? Do they wake up every morning? Do they They think to themselves, how do I get a wooden pole to smack me directly into the forehead?
0:33Dan Bongino:Let's see. What do I do? They just stomp on a rake and boom, every single day, every day. We got a new one. And this one involves all of that lawfare against President Trump and what needs to be done about the lawsuits that the president filed against the United States Justice Department. It's a great story. I'll explore it next as the left freaks out and the rest of us, well, we keep our feet planted and we say, yeah, we've got a great country. We're going to keep working for it. More ahead all on this edition of Vince. Also, the great Amber Duke stops by today. You're not going to want to miss any of it.
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2:42Dan Bongino:We've been talking at some length about all of these people who are being prosecuted by the Justice Department, which is great news. You know, you watch this James Comey and Letitia James and John Bolton are getting well-deserved prosecutions right now. Who's up next? And could it be the former CIA director, John Brennan? It might be. We've got an update for you on that story. Yesterday, the United States Congress, in the form of the House Judiciary Committee, referred John Brennan for criminal prosecution to the Justice Department. That's very fun news. In fact, the criminal prosecution, as usual, rather the criminal referral, lays out the specifics as to what John Brennan did.
3:26Dan Bongino:And in this case, it involves lying to Congress on three occasions, three separate occasions, all spelled out in the criminal referral. So I want to take you through them so you have a sense of what this is all about. What is John Brennan accused of? Now, John Brennan, remember, has lied in the past with some frequency, but he lied quite infamously about spying on the United States Senate. So John Brennan being accused of lying would be like the rest of us just being accused of breathing. Yes, he does it easily and reflexively. Here is some of the some of the findings here in this criminal referral sent directly to Attorney General Pam Bondi, saying that we write to refer to you significant evidence that the former director of the CIA, John Brennan, knowingly made false statements during his transcribed interview before the Judiciary Committee on May 11th of 2023.
4:20Dan Bongino:In other words, there is no audio available to us, at least right now, to support this. This is simply behind closed doors, a transcribed interview of May 11th, 2023, well inside the statute of limitations. This would be just over two years ago. And they say that he made knowingly and willfully materially false statements and representations with respect to an investigation or review conducted by Congress. I'm just summarizing here. So let's get to number one. Here's the first lie that the House Judiciary Committee says that John Brennan told. And they say that Brennan falsely denied that the CIA had relied on the discredited Steele dossier in drafting the post-election intelligence community assessment.
5:08Dan Bongino:This dates back to the beginning of 2017. Remember, President Trump is coming into office and Obama orders the people around him to come up with this intelligence community assessment designed to smear the incoming president of the United States. And as a part of that, both in the main body and then separately included in an annex in that report was the Steele dossier. Now, for those of us who've been following the Steele dossier saga for a long time, you know what this is. It's Hillary Clinton paid for opposition research, which was drafted up by Perkins Cooey, which is a law firm at the time Mark Elias was running the show.
5:50Dan Bongino:He hires Fusion GPS. They hire Christopher Steele. He generates a packet of disinformation about Donald Trump, alleges about making all sorts of ridiculous allegations about prostitutes and water sports in Moscow. Water sports is a euphemism. And and then they just include it all. They include it all in this intelligence community assessment designed to be what Nancy Pelosi has referred to through the years as a wrap up smear just to smear President Trump on his way in the door. And sure enough, that's what they did. So what John Brennan said now two years ago when he was testifying before Congress is that that still does.
6:31Dan Bongino:Yeah, that didn't play any role in the CIA's intelligence community assessment. No, nothing like that whatsoever. And here's what they have in the document. They have an exchange between Matt Gaetz and John Brennan, May 11th of 2023. And here's how it goes. Gaetz says the following. All right. So the fact that the DNC was providing the financing for the Steele dossier's development doesn't give you concern that it might be partisan. brennan again that was happening back in 2016 i understand how you were able to tie this to my reference to my expertise but i don't see any relevance to the hunter biden laptop issue now gates well you said that you signed this letter that we now acknowledge joe biden misused in a debate to fool the american public because you're this great russia expert so i'm trying to understand your Russia expertise and you were involved in analyzing this information.
7:31Dan Bongino:Brennan, no, I was not involved in analyzing the dossier at all. I said the first time I actually saw it, it was after the election and the CIA was not involved at all with the dossier. You can direct that to the FBI and others. Gates, were you aware of the FBI's involvement with the dossier? Brennan, yes, because there's an annex in the ICA, the Intelligence Community Assessment, that the bureau has to be included in there. It was their purview, their area, not ours at all, said John Brennan. So what's the truth here? Well, a report drafted by the House Committee on Intelligence in 2017 and recently declassified showed that Brennan's testimony here in 2023 is false.
8:29Dan Bongino:According to the House report, the intelligence community assessment included supporting evidence for the ICA's false claim that Russia was aspiring to help President Trump win the election. The report told the reader to review Annex A for additional reporting from an FBI source on Russian influence efforts. That was only included in the highest classified versions of this assessment. And it was a two page summary of the Steele dossier. The Steele dossier. Now, they said that they had a CIA officer who served as the lead author and he drafted that annex. You know, the one that included the Steele dossier in coordination with the FBI.
9:12Dan Bongino:In other words, Brennan's claim that the CIA was not involved at all. It's a lie. Of course, Brennan made the ultimate decision alongside James Comey to include the dossier in the intelligence community assessment. All right. So that's that's point one. So they got him dead to rights. He's lying to Congress about that. Point two, Brennan falsely stated when he told the committee that the CIA, he falsely testified rather, when he told the committee that the CIA opposed including the Steele dossier at all. Now, I'll spare you reading the transcript back and forth again from Jim Jordan and John Brennan, but suffice it, I'll read the relevant portion from Brennan here.
9:54Dan Bongino:He says the CIA was very much opposed to having any reference or inclusion of the Steele dossier in the intelligence community assessment. Not only is that not true, not only is that not true, but Brennan himself was eager to include the Steele dossier in this. Brennan himself. Brennan had to order the dossier be included over the objections of CIA professionals, the evidence now shows. So John Brennan, not only is he lying, he's directly involved as the CIA director. And then there's item three. And this, we have the benefit of audio for item three. Here we have Brennan also falsely provided false testimony to the House Committee on Intelligence in 2017.
10:45Dan Bongino:He falsely asserted that the Steele dossier was never used in the intelligence community assessment. Take a look here. Here's John Brennan telling that lie back in 2017. Watch. Valid, but I just I don't have any firsthand knowledge of it.
11:00John Brennan:Do you know if the Bureau ever relied on the Steele dossier as any as part of any court filings? Applications, petitions, pleadings? I have no awareness.
11:13John Brennan:Did the CIA rely on it? No. Why not? Because we didn't. It wasn't part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. It was not in any way used as a basis for the intelligence community assessment that was done. It was not.
11:35Dan Bongino:What a freaking liar. That guy forced it in to the intelligence community. Oh, the CIA wasn't involved at all. The Steele dossier. No, we weren't involved. There wasn't even a part of the intelligence community assessment. Lie after lie after lie after lie. They've got this guy dead to rights. He's been referred for criminal prosecution. And my suspicion is that this Justice Department is going to bring charges against him. Remember, James Comey right now is being prosecuted for lies that he told the United States Senate. He lied before Congress. Those charges have been brought. Now you've got Jim Jordan and company at the House Judiciary Committee making a criminal referral against John Brennan, a man who is very much at the center of the scheme, the plot against the president.
12:19Dan Bongino:And you've got an FBI with an appetite for going after criminals who've violated their oath of office and need to be held accountable. Do we have a case against him? You're damn right we do. John Brennan appears to be one of the next guys up here for criminal prosecution. This ball is rolling and interesting to see the criminal referral that these guys have brought. Good to see. Very, very good to see. We'll see if he's next. But we talked to Miranda Devine yesterday from the New York Post. If you missed that, I check out the Vince podcast from yesterday. And she actually floated this yesterday morning before we even saw this referral.
13:01Dan Bongino:She said, you guys like Brennan and Clapper, who have not yet been prosecuted, very much inside the zone of the kinds of people who could be prosecuted here. And she even said that this may go all the way up to Barack Obama. We will see. Now, having said all that, I want to move now to another left wing, you know, ridiculous scandal that's brewing that is from the from the get from the jump. You immediately realize how stupid it is. And this is, you know, this has actually a really good segue because the guys who broke the law over and over and over in the pursuit of trying to destroy Donald Trump and to prevent you from getting your electoral will, they're being held accountable now.
13:49Dan Bongino:And back when President Trump was running for office in 2024, you and I both know what happened to him. He was criminally prosecuted over and over and over again by all of these left wing prosecutors, especially in the United States Department of Justice, who were tyrannically abusing their power, violating their oath of office, trampling all over the Constitution, violating President Trump's civil rights. And so what President Trump did during that saga is he turned around and he sued the United States Department of Justice. He sued them for wrongful and selective prosecutions and saying, I'm not guilty of anything.
14:23Dan Bongino:You're just trying to stop me from becoming president of the United States. So he began legal action against the Justice Department. And then something kind of wonderful happened. President Trump won the election. And as a result of his victory, he's in a very unusual situation now. And that unusual situation is he's effectively suing himself in a way. In fact, the president of the United States was speaking just this past week about this very quandary and saying, this is strange. Basically, they raided my house. They absolutely trampled on my civil rights. I filed a lawsuit and now I'm in kind of a weird position because my Justice Department has to make a decision about whether or not I'm going to get a settlement here to be made whole.
15:10Dan Bongino:Listen to the president talking about it last week.
15:13John Brennan:Cut to what I had to go through. They raided my house in Florida. It was an illegal raid. I have a lawsuit that was doing very well. And when I became president, I said, I'm sort of suing myself. I don't know what he has settled the lawsuit. I'll say, give me X dollars. Right. And I don't know what to do with the lawsuit. It's a great lawsuit. And now I want it sort of looks bad. I'm suing myself. Right. So I don't know. But but that was a lawsuit that was very strong, very powerful.
15:39Dan Bongino:They raided illegally my house in Florida, Mar-a-Lago. Yeah, they raided my house illegally. So what would you do if the government's trampled on over your rights? What recourse do you have? What recourse do you have? First of all, you have to battle that out in court. You've got to pay ungodly sums of money. You're dealing with a Justice Department that has bottomless reserves to destroy your life. What are you supposed to do in the midst of all of that? Well, if you can, if you can afford the process, bring a suit against the United States government. See if you can be made whole as a result.
16:11Dan Bongino:Something, some justice needs to happen here. In addition to the accountability of watching these assholes arrested and brought in and prosecuted. In addition to that, it makes perfect sense that he would file the suit. So now he's in an unusual position. So what does that mean? Was it he just give it up? No, he shouldn't. There shouldn't be a settlement. He shouldn't be made whole. How much money did he spend on legal fees in the midst of all of this garbage that he should have never had to deal with? And voters, Trump voters hated this, as you know. Trump voters were, in fact, campaign contributions to the president exploded way up during this saga because people realized not only does this guy have to campaign, he needs to pay legal expenses in order to be able to afford all of this.
16:55Dan Bongino:It was insanity. So what is it? He's beneath the law again? He's not allowed to be made whole? The New York Times today has an insane report on this subject. Trump said to demand Justice Department pay him$230 million for past cases. Now, obviously, the New York Times comes into this with all the prejudice in the world. Their perspective on this is Donald Trump shouldn't get a dime, that all of this is fake, that the Justice Department never trampled his civil liberties. There is no basis for a lawsuit. They barely want to acknowledge the fact that these lawsuits were filed before he became president.
17:34Dan Bongino:in. It's all just so freaking dishonest. President Trump is demanding the Justice Department pay him $230 million in compensation. That's according to the New York Times. They're just making this claim. Quote, according to people familiar with the matter, who added that any settlement might ultimately be approved by senior department officials. Who defended him are those in his orbit. The situation has no parallel in American history. Yeah, no kidding. It wouldn't have a parallel because you don't usually have a Justice Department tyrannically abusing its power in the pursuit of stopping a political opponent like this and a guy who sues them in order to be made whole.
18:09Dan Bongino:This happened in Trump's case. He was pursued by federal law enforcement during the presidential election. He eventually won that election. Now he's taking over the very government that must review his claims. They say it's also the starkest example yet of potential ethical conflicts created by installing the president's former lawyers atop the Justice Department. Anyway, so they go on to complain over and over and over again about the fact that the president may see some compensation for all of this. Now, again, as I said, this is an unusual situation. The president is clearly in a weird situation here.
18:49Dan Bongino:He filed suit. Now he's in a position to settle it. So here's what I posted yesterday to social media. And here's what I've been saying. I think I said this on the radio show as we were hearing this news developing yesterday, which is really simple. Okay. What if the settlement is then turned around and donated right back to the American people? In other words, President Trump never sees a dime of it. He just says, okay, I'll tell you what, rather than this settlement be paid to me in order to fill my bank account back up after all the money I spent on this legal defense, although I would be entitled to this money, rather than that, why don't I just donate whatever the settlement is directly to the American people that it goes to fund a project that matters to our country how about that what if for instance this settlement is used to pay for the White House ballroom well that's interesting I think that's the pro move and in fact if you listen to the president yesterday last night he kind of seems to be going in this direction check this out cut 10 And here's the president of the United States saying, look, any settlement that the Justice Department comes up with, I'm not even going to keep it.
20:00Dan Bongino:I'm going to give it away to the American people. Watch.
20:03John Brennan:But if I get money from our country, I'll do something nice with it, like give it to charity or give it to the White House where we restore the White House. And we're doing a great job in the White House. As you know, the ballroom is under construction. It's going to be they've been trying to get it for 150 years. And it's really I think it's going to be fantastic. But but we'll see what happens. We have numerous cases having to do with the fraud of the election, the 2020 election. And because of everything that we found out, I guess they owe me a lot of money, but I'm not looking for money.
20:41Dan Bongino:Interesting. Interest. I love this. So here's so here's what we have going on. Just think through the left's arguments about this because they're going absolutely ballistic about this. I'm seeing lefties and even never Trump Republicans who are out there in the last 24 hours going, this would be totally impeachable. He should be impeached if there's a settlement. Impeached if there's a settlement. You psychopaths. The Justice Department totally trampled his civil liberties. And by the way, he's not the only one who should be made whole. All of these January 6th defendants, all of these people who work for Donald Trump, people like Mark Howe, people who sang church hymns outside of abortion mills, Catholic churches who had their rights violated.
21:20Dan Bongino:There's a lot of people who need to be made whole. But let me just start with this presidential thing. If President Trump doesn't even take a dime out of this settlement and instead executive branch money, the Justice Department, stays in the executive branch to build a White House ballroom for the American people, not for Donald Trump. Trump doesn't get to keep the ballroom when he leaves the White House, you psychos. How would that be self-dealing? How for a moment would he be deriving some sort of ill-gotten benefit from this? he would be doing the same thing he does with his salary donating it to the american people and yet they're going to accuse him of corruption they're going to accuse him of corruption i want to remind you of what corruption looks like corruption thy face is joe biden the last president of the united states and before that when he was vice president of the united states was in the business of enriching himself by exploiting his office in order to use his crackhead son as a means to route money into the family.
22:26Dan Bongino:And the same media, which is pretending like Donald Trump is doing something untoward by generating a charitable benefit to the executive branch of the United States, had no interest whatsoever in reporting on how Joe Biden was utterly and completely corrupt. None. And as far as settlements go, I want to remind you of something about Barack Obama. If you go back in time to the Obama presidency, you remember the bank lawsuits? Yeah, the big banks were being sued, and this big Justice Department cracked down. And Barack Obama at the time decided with the Justice Department that he would impose on the banks a massive settlement operation.
23:13Dan Bongino:Do you remember what the settlement was that the banks had to pay? The settlement was that they had to pay third parties. They didn't they had to they had to dump their money into causes chosen by Barack Obama. You know what those causes were? The left wing machinery, the get out the vote machinery of the left. Here's Paul Sperry back in 2017. How Obama is funding the anti-Trump resistance. Wall Street might be shocked to learn. He goes on. There's some throat clearing here about the big banks and how this is all going down. At least three liberal nonprofit organizations that the Justice Department has approved to receive the funds from a multibillion dollar mortgage settlement.
23:59Dan Bongino:We're instrumental in killing the Obamacare repeal bill, and now they're lobbying against Republican tax reform. So where did the money go? Well, the money went to places like La Raza. It went to the National Urban League. It went to the National Community Reinvestment Coalition. Obama and Biden are among the most corrupt figures in American history, either stealing money for themselves or using Justice Department settlements as a means to create slush funds for the American left. That's the truth. If Donald Trump gets a well-deserved settlement from the Justice Department and then donates it directly to the American people, that's not corrupt.
24:47Dan Bongino:That's wonderful. And the left is going to try once again to impeach him over it. They definitely will. If they get a hold of power, they're going to try to impeach him over it. Just want to tell you right now. More ahead all in this edition of Vince. Amber, Duke is not far away. Hey, I've been using the Bone Charge Infrared Sauna Blanket Red Light Face Mask ever since they sent them to me. My wife uses the red light face mask. We can't recommend them enough. You know, that sauna blanket has been huge. It's helped with muscle recovery, detoxification. It's become a tonal game changer. Easy to use.
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26:27Dan Bongino:And in order to do a renovation, if you're going to add an addition to your house, you've got to open up one of the walls. So they opened up a wall and they pretend like Donald Trump is destroying the White House. How fun and stupid is that? These guys step on rakes every day. I posted about this yesterday. To much fanfare, my wildly popular ex account, it's ridiculous. If you're not following it, you're really missing out. Everybody is. It's like one of the craziest things ever. Yesterday I posted, are you angry about Trump's new White House renovations? Well, join the left's historic preservation society.
26:59Dan Bongino:And then I posted a bunch of photos of the left destroying everything. Remember the Minneapolis police precinct that they burned to the ground? You remember that? Yeah, that was fun. That's that's the left trying to preserve our our nation's history. Remember when they were flipping cars over in American cities and killing people like David Dorn? Yeah, they're big on historical preservation. You know, they really value the country. Remember when they tried to burn St. John's Church down across the street from the White House? that was fun for the whole family that was that was great that was saint john's church an historic church which the president would then cross the street from the white house across lafayette square he would hold up a bible in front of the church uh as the uh as the media condemned him it's a photo op it's a photo op yeah what is a photo op it's calling attention to something that you want to call attention to.
27:53Dan Bongino:The president was calling attention to the left's terrorism and the need to stand up for Christianity. I'm for that. And then, of course, when they're tearing down statues and vandalizing them all across our country, yeah, they're real big on historical preservation, the left. That's a big thing. It's a big thing for them. So anyway, if you'd like to, if you too would like to support the left's historical preservation society, All you have to do is his retweet that do what the House Judiciary Committee did this morning. I was I woke up this morning to a House Judiciary Committee retweet. Why is the House Judiciary Committee retweeting me?
28:28Dan Bongino:Oh, it's because I had another banger tweet. Yeah. Coming up next, my next guest has banger tweets all the time. Actually, she's inspirational. I'll be chatting with the great Amber Duke, who coincidentally just retweeted that as an expression of her support for this program. Thank you, Amber. That's ahead here on this edition of Vince. Hey, if you own a handgun by any chance for self-defense, your storage likely fits into one of two very frustrating categories. It's either locked away, safe but out of reach in an emergency, or it's unsecured, leaving it vulnerable to anyone. Well, Stopbox USA, they saw this problem.
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31:43John Brennan:It's great to see you, Vince. Thanks for having me.
31:45Dan Bongino:Okay, so I started the program today, and this is where I want to start with you on John Brennan has just received a criminal referral from the House Judiciary Committee. I think there was a period this year where people were concerned that they wouldn't see accountability. They're like, where is it? Why isn't it happening fast enough? But all of a sudden, we now have three criminal prosecutions, a very high profile, out of control Trump haters. And it looks like a fourth could be on the way. What do you make of this?
32:11John Brennan:Well, I would start by saying that the natural reaction to this from the left is, oh my gosh, you're weaponizing and politicizing the Department of Justice. No, actually what's happening is people are being held accountable for their weaponization and politicization of the DOJ and the intelligence community that took place all throughout Trump's first term. And then when he was running as a candidate and faced all of these bogus lawsuits against him, these criminal investigations for classified documents when And Joe Biden had them in his garage where his addict son could access them near his historic car.
32:52John Brennan:So this is actually what the American people deserve. They deserve justice. Trump deserves justice. And that's what we're seeing with this series of indictments and investigations. I mean, just going back to 2016, looking at people like Brennan, Clapper, and Comey's involvement in starting an investigation into alleged Russian collusion based on faulty evidence with circular reporting that they themselves had leaked to the media, it is long past time for these people to face accountability for what they did and trying to undermine a duly elected president and effectively steal an election from the American people.
33:34Dan Bongino:To what extent do you think that the prosecutions of Trump last year, the 2024 prosecutions, were meant to prevent this from happening?
33:42John Brennan:I'm sure to a large degree. I mean, everything about them was meant to stop Trump from getting back into office. And Latisha James effectively said as much prior to her going after Trump for the alleged fraud case, where she accused him of inflating his real estate assets. Now, mind you, obviously, there was no victim in that crime. The bank that gave the loan was paid back. the courts in this case had said that Mar-a-Lago was worth what was it 12 million dollars I mean I'm sure no sane person actually believes that but she said when she was running to be attorney general that she was going to stop Trump that she was going to go after Trump so they've been very clear about what their motives are and all of the intelligence community officials that are now facing consequences when they left the government they got these six-figure cable news contracts so that they could go on TV and talk about what a danger Trump was to democracy.
34:39John Brennan:So every part of their careers for the past 10 years have been about trying to prevent the American people from installing a president, from voting for a president, from allowing that president then to execute the policy that the American people voted for him to accomplish.
34:56Dan Bongino:So as a result of all of those abuses, President Trump sued the Justice Department. Those lawsuits were processed, and now he's in a very unusual position, which is he's in charge ultimately of the Justice Department. The New York Times is turning this into an epic scandal right now because they are pretending like all of the abuses you just described never happened. So in other words, Donald Trump is trying to fleece the American people, which is, I think, kind of a weird claim to make considering that he just said yesterday that his plan, if any settlement is achieved at all, is to donate it directly back to the American people.
35:29Dan Bongino:So how would that be self-dealing, Amber?
35:32John Brennan:That's a great point. And the other important point that the mainstream media is glossing over is they are ignoring the fact that Trump's lawsuit, his request for the settlement, actually started when he was still a candidate. So this is not something that he brought up when he was in charge of the Justice Department because he knew that he would win the settlement. He obviously had no idea whether or not he was going to win the election when he was trying to see some relief, some accountability, some retribution for what the DOJ had done to him. It only so happened, of course, that he won the election is now overseeing the DOJ.
36:13John Brennan:And look, I think there's an argument being made that this should be the most independent manner possible. But this was not OK. Trump hires Pam Bondi and then he sues the Justice Department because he knows Pam is just going to hand him a full two hundred million dollars. They've got the order of events completely reversed.
36:29Dan Bongino:Meanwhile, the president's immigration mission seems to be continuing to be successful and only improving by the day. We we got numbers this week that he's deported now over half a million people. And that doesn't even include the millions who've self-deported from the United States of America. That's really neat. Additionally, there was a federal judge that said that he is definitely free to send the National Guard and it's well within his power into places like Portland. Amber, how do you think the administration is viewing the immigration mission right now? It seems to me that they want to ramp it up more.
37:04Dan Bongino:How do you score it?
37:06John Brennan:Yeah, I agree. I think they are trying to accelerate and get more aggressive, which they should. We have 20 plus million, and that's, I think, a conservative estimate, illegal aliens in the country, hitting that half million mark about 10 months into the administration. If you want to really affect change by the end of those four years, then you have to move faster. So I think the question is, when do they start broadening the net beyond the worst of the worst criminal illegals who they're executing warrants for and actually start doing more raids? Now, this is going to be something that the administration is going to have to workshop messaging for before they get down to it, because what the left has done is in response to these targeted operations that are going after accused criminals or convicted criminals is they have talked about, well, the president's deporting housekeepers and door dash drivers.
38:01John Brennan:and he is going after people who are asking for work outside of Home Depots, to which I say, good, he should be doing that. Everyone who is in the country illegally needs to go. It is very clear what he ran on, right? It was mass deportations. It wasn't, well, we're going to look at each individual case file and okay, maybe you crossed the border illegally and resided in the country and took public assistance and took advantage of the American people, but you didn't kill anybody. So I guess you get to stay and you know, you clean somebody's toilet. So I guess you get to stay. I mean, that's really what the left thinks should happen.
38:37John Brennan:But it was very clear. Mass deportations means mass deportations. And so I think we're starting to get to that point where the administration is going to have to broaden the scope of what they're doing. And what the left doesn't realize is the reason why Trump has in his ice have had to do these raids as they call them is because when you go into a sanctuary city and you're trying to effectuate a warrant on a criminal illegal alien if you have a local police department that doesn't cooperate with ice then the police don't get to detain that person and hold on to them at the jails for ice to pick up so they have no choice but to do raids and go into communities and find these people themselves because the police are not cooperating so if they wanted to avoid that problem.
39:23John Brennan:If they didn't want to see ICE in the streets, then all they had to do was cooperate and hold the criminals so that ICE could come pick them up. So I think actually ICE has already had good practice now of trying to pick up illegals out in the communities. And that's what they're going to have to do when they start ramping up those numbers.
39:41Dan Bongino:Okay. So here, I want to raise something else that's completely connected to this, which is there's a New York mayoral race going on right now. And there was just an ICE raid of Chinatown this week, yesterday. And there's a tweet, fellas, I want to pull this tweet up on my screen. I'm going to post it here. Take a look at this. This is Andrew Cuomo yesterday. He's the independent candidate running for mayor in New York right now. And he condemns an ice raid in Chinatown. He says, this is not who we are. And it will never be New York City when I'm mayor. The Statue of Liberty stands in our harbor, not as a declaration, but as a declaration of our values and the promise of America.
40:23Dan Bongino:Today's ice raid in Chinatown was an abuse of federal power by the Trump administration. More about fear than justice, more about politics than safety. New York was built by immigrants and we will not be bullied into betraying who we are. Okay. This is a crazy story, what's happening in New York right now. So here's what we have. In New York City, you've got this crazy mayoral race. A Democrat primary concludes, Zoran Mamdani the commie wins and now Andrew Cuomo is like well I'm going to run independent I lost the primary so I'm going to stay in the race anyway and everybody's saying Curtis Sliwa the Republican candidate needs to drop out so that Andrew Cuomo can win there's Republicans who are saying this have Sliwa should drop out the only guy in the race who seems to care about New York City and with any sensible policies whatsoever and this just ratified my judgment yesterday that there's no way I'm going to go on air or anywhere and be like, hey, you should vote for Andrew Cuomo.
41:23Dan Bongino:Cuomo is equating illegal aliens being rightly deported from the country to immigrants who arrived and saw the Statue of Liberty when they arrived legally. This is demented, Amber.
41:36John Brennan:It's a great point. There's so much in that tweet from the Jim Acosta Statue of Liberty defense to the idea that the federal government doesn't have its own doesn't have authority over immigration policy, which has been well decided numerous times throughout American history, that that is not a state's right issue. The federal government is the one who effectuates immigration policy. So this is actually directly within their scope and authority. But I totally agree with your analysis of the Andrew Cuomo versus Curtis Sliwa debate. And Curtis Sliwa addressed this in a recent interview where he took head on the idea that he needs to drop out so that Andrew Cuomo can win.
42:16John Brennan:I mean, first of all, obviously, as you pointed out, Andrew Cuomo, okay, maybe on economics, he's slightly better than Zoran Mamdani, but he has still said very clearly on his campaign that what he wants to do is be a brick wall against Donald Trump, that Trump is the greatest threat to the country. He doesn't want to cooperate on immigration enforcement. But as Curtis pointed out too, the idea that all of the people who are voting for me are suddenly going to jump over and vote for Andrew Cuomo is just a fantasy. That's not how it works. A lot of those people are not going to vote for either candidate because they're both so terrible.
42:54John Brennan:And this is not a failure of Curtis or the Republican Party. This is a failure of the Democrats. And I think the same question needs to be turned around on Andrew Cuomo. If you are so concerned about Zoram Mandani, then why did you decide to jump in the race and run against the incumbent mayor eric adams who was actually trying to tackle new york crime and immigration issues and working with the trump administration to get good policy done uh he didn't have to do that but the the real answer here is this isn't about policy for andrew cuomo this is about power he wants to be back in the political fold he wants to have elected office again because he just wants to be in charge and he's obsessed with having power.
43:36Dan Bongino:I just don't know. I mean, how can people like forget the pandemic and Cuomo's behavior during it? I think to myself a lot. I don't know if you've had this up, but you know, Janice Dean at the Fox News channel, like she, she spent a huge portion of the pandemic and rightfully so talking about how Cuomo killed her in-laws because of the nursing home scandal. And she was rightly outraged about that. I just can't imagine being her right now, watching all of this and thinking, like, there's people like, well, like, vote for Cuomo. He's the best option here. What? This is the commie, the nursing home killer, and the man who actually cares about cleaning up the city.
44:19Dan Bongino:And Cuomo is running. This is so enraging. Cuomo is running as an independent after having already lost the primary. You had your chance. The Democrats in New York went with the commie. You're out of the race. So you're going to chip into Sliwa's support? And then lastly, I'll say on this, and I'll get your reaction to whatever you want on the subject. But the fact is, if Cuomo really thought that he was going to convince Republican voters to join him, don't you think he would adopt a sensible position on immigration? Don't you think he would come out and say, you know what? New York City does need to be cleaned up.
44:49Dan Bongino:We do need to support ICE officers. We do need to eject the illegal foreign nationals from our country. In fact, I bet you, I don't know his background. He's Italian. I bet you his family came legally to Ellis Island and he's besmarching his own family's history by suggesting that people who are here illegally did the same thing that his family did legally.
45:09John Brennan:I think that's dead on. We'd be having a much different conversation if he were actually adopting policies that appeal to independents and Republicans. But that's not what he's doing. And I also find it so fascinating, Vince, that when you listen to Democratic critiques of Andrew Cuomo, they're all centered around the sexual harassment scandal which okay yeah he got fresh with some people in his office but pales in comparison to the real Cuomo scandal which as you pointed out was the nursing home policy during COVID where he was putting sick people back with the most vulnerable population forcing nursing homes to do that and then covered up the death count so that people didn't realize how deadly of a decision that this was.
45:51John Brennan:So the fact that again the the uh red flag for democrats on cuomo is him being italian basically i mean he said this is a joke but i actually think it's real um where he sort of defended himself by saying oh you know we get fresh with women because we're italian um they they're so obsessed with that but they don't seem to care that he killed thousands of elderly people by just completely ignoring common sense
46:20Dan Bongino:I just how can your memory be that short it's too it's too it's too much it's too crazy there's anyway um Amber Duke you're the best thank you for always maintaining the perspective appreciate you being on the program today thank you Vince the great Amber Duke from the Daily Caller always always wonderful and uh those of you who have been long time Bongino Army members uh you'll know that that Dan Bongino very much went to bat for Amber as she was dealing with all sorts of garbage in her professional life. And Dan was right there with her. So Amber's great. Amber's very, very great. And you should definitely follow her wherever you can find her social media accounts.
46:58Dan Bongino:She's the best. All right. Let me see. I've got more for you on the madness of the left. In fact, speaking of the immigration mission, let's talk about some of those. DHS has now referred. You remember this weekend, there was a No Kings protester somewhere in the country. This was in Chicago, actually. A No Kings protester who was explicitly calling for the murder of ICE agents. He was encouraging the mob to kill ICE agents. He said, you need to take up arms and you need to shoot ICE agents. And I was wondering, I was like, you know, is it going to be a prosecution of this guy? It does seem pretty explicit that he's trying to incite violence against ICE agents.
47:43Dan Bongino:Well, it sounds seems like the trump administration's on the move here's dhs they released this video yesterday declaring that yes they're making a criminal referral to this idiot we gotta grab the guns
47:55John Brennan:we gotta turn around the guns on this fascist system these ice agents gonna get shot and wiped
48:03Dan Bongino:out all right today we're going to talk about how we can find out and how much we can find out The more you around, the more you're going to find out.
48:19Dan Bongino:It's hilarious. And then the video continues. I love that. The FAFO guy, the professor of fuck around, find out showing you on screen what it means when you do this. And then what followed was a bunch of raids, federal law enforcement kicking in doors, going after criminals. So the DHS update on that is that they are making a criminal referral. They want to capture this guy. As soon as I have an update on that subject, I'll share it with you. But but no question that that that struck me as criminal. And the Trump administration vehemently agrees. So so there you go. Yeah, go and kill people. That's that's freaking insane.
48:58Dan Bongino:It really is. Insanity continues in Portland, Oregon, where Antifa terrorists continue their nightly harassment and just nonsense attacking federal law enforcement officers. We've got video directly from Nick Sorter, the great Nick Sorter, who was in Portland this week. And he spotted Antifa directing a spotlight, like a very high powered spotlight into the eyes of federal law enforcement, DHS agents onto the roof of the the ice facility there. And so what the Portland cops are doing, rather the DHS agents are doing is they're firing pepper balls at the people who are pointing high powered lights into their eyes to prevent them from doing their job.
49:43Dan Bongino:Pepper balls are meant to disperse rioters, kind of like a paintball gun with an irritant. They're shooting at this person. And then the Antifa rioters, they run behind the Portland police and then the Portland police just stand there. they let the antifa rioters use them as human shields and then they keep pointing their flashlight directly into the eyes of the dhs agents in the video you can see dhs agents go down to the portland police and say guys this person is doing this and she's directly behind you you have to take her into custody you've got to help us out you can't just help her you can't aid and abet this insanity and the portland police play dumb they gave gave the old sergeant Schultz routine.
50:30Dan Bongino:I know nothing. I know nothing. I didn't. I did no idea. No, we just we're just standing here. What are the Portland cops doing? What are these police up to? Are they even police officers? Here's more video. Nick Sorter capturing Portland police taking reports against DHS agents. It's a Portland cop. He's taking a video with his phone of an Antifa rioters phone showing some antifa riders themselves being face blasted with pepper spray by dhs officials who had determined that no you've you've done too much get the hell out of here they blasted these guys with pepper spray on camera which no doubt they deserved and the portland police officer is taking it as a police report against the dhs agents rather than telling this guy get lost go home your mom is probably wondering where you are.
51:26Dan Bongino:You know, no more terrorism for you, son. None of that. No, instead they're taking police reports against DHS agents. The Portland Police Department is out of control. Here's Nick Sorter. He appeared this week with Laura Ingram, and he said, the Portland Police, they're on Antifa's side. Watch. That's wild. Like, how long were those fanatics, Antifa, whatever they were, hiding behind the police and any clue as to why nothing was done. Laura, they were standing there for several minutes. I mean, I was in shock and awe. I mean, if you listen to that video, you can hear my voice. I'm like, wow, they are actually doing this.
52:05Dan Bongino:They are going to seek cover behind Portland police officers. And I was standing three times as far away from this unfolding situation as those cops were. And I saw everything that was going on. So the notion that they had no idea, the several of them that were standing there had no idea what was going on is just BS. And that's why you saw that federal agent who had finally had enough go out there and say, what are you doing? Why are you running cover for these people that are literally trying to blind us on the rooftop? They've had enough. And I mean, the DHS agents out here, Laura, they've had to put up with Antifa going after them for the longest time but now they're not just up against antifa they're up against antifa and the portland police department which are running cover for these leftist thugs it's wild i don't care you know whatever the president does anything the president does about this the left is going to screech and claim that he's an authoritarian that he's hitler that he's a king or whatever it is that they want to screech i don't care about their screeching anymore i don't care i never it's it really it's been a long time since i've even tried to attempt to take them seriously on any of these subjects It's just all garbage.
53:17Dan Bongino:Do I want the president to file the law? Yes. What laws are available to him, Chad? What law is available to the president of the United States right now to bring order to a city that's actively advancing disorder? If you get local officials telling local police officers to enable lawbreaking and to thwart federal law enforcement on public property, what are we witnessing? Yes, thank you. Zoidborg says it in the chat. The Insurrection Act. We are witnessing an insurrection. Can the President of the United States call in troops immediately in order to restore order in a city like Portland? Yes, he can.
53:58Dan Bongino:And it's happened countless times in the last century, and it should happen again. President Trump has been, for whatever reason, hesitant to invoke the Insurrection Act. He's been trying to work around the use of the Insurrection Act. And as far as the rest of us can tell, it seems far past time. You're dealing with an insurrection. So in a city like Portland, where the police are being told to enable this kind of destructive activity, and to the extent that they're involved at all, like one thing, one of the things they have these Portland liaison officers, they seem like, like, you know, the cool RA in college, like the person who's like helping you smuggle drugs into the dorm or something.
54:38Dan Bongino:They're not doing anything to stop all of this. They're just enabling it. They're just talking to people and like, oh, you know, maybe if we talk it out, then things will get better. No. If you enforce the law, things will get better. If you slap handcuffs on rioters, things will get better. Impose consequences on these idiots. That's the way things get better. Not through a poetry slam or a therapy session or just sitting around in a drum circle. you've actually got to do your job why are you a law enforcement officer if you're not going to enforce the law and so yeah time for the insurrection act in portland and the same should be true in chicago in chicago where the if the illinois governor jelly belly pritzker and the least popular bj in america brandon johnson these two guys are absolutely refusing to enforce the law refusing to work with ice telling federal enforcement that you're not even allowed on public property to do your jobs.
55:33Dan Bongino:You can't do that. The Supremacy Clause of the Constitution is clear. Yes, federal law enforcement can do his job on public property. Sorry. And it's way past time. What you're doing is an insurrection. Insurrection Act. Get her done. Get her done. Restore order. Oh, but Vince, they'll try and impeach Trump. Whatever. They try every day. Every day. The New York Times has a new stupid scandal today that it's inventing. They never stop. So we can't either. Under the law, do the job. It's as straightforward as it gets. Now, in case you're wondering, you know, is that does the left think that Donald Trump is the worst thing ever?
56:11Dan Bongino:Well, they hate him for sure, but they're already firing up the every Republican is worse than the last machine yet again. take a look at the way that circle backy Jen Psaki is now leading the charge among Democrats claiming that after Trump, it's going to get even worse. If J.D. Vance becomes president of the United States, he's even more dangerous than Trump. They do this every single time. They do this every single time. Cut nine. Circle backy Jen Psaki. Watch.
56:45John Brennan:I think the little mentoring candidate, JD Vance, wants to be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's going on in the mind of his wife. Like, are you okay? Please blink four times. We'll come over here. We'll save you. And that he's willing to do anything to get there. And that your whole iteration you just outlined, I mean, he's scarier in certain ways. He's smarter. In some ways. And ambitious and ambitious and agile in the sense that he is a chameleon who makes himself into whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear from him now what's also true though is jd vance is not he's in some ways goodish on paper if you like what he believes in i don't know she's attracted to him i don't know that he can take the whole movement with him no way i don't know so either is no riz it's it's got no riz right and he's got he just is a little odd um and totally trump's odd in a different way so i'm skeptical of that so yeah he's got to i mean the whole everything going on right now and i think we have to be very clear-eyed about this is about trying to uh manipulate the public around elections a table of a bunch of insecure women sitting around
58:04Dan Bongino:around lefty women specifically, sitting around complaining that J.D. Vance is very odd. And then Jen Psaki saying, well, there's some things about him I kind of like. And then she runs away from it right away. But you heard what she said at the beginning. It's the same thing they do. It's this is as old as the republic itself. Democrats will always claim that the next Republican is going to be some scary demon. The next one is going to be the worst one. And they're just ridiculous. They're just ridiculous. And the good news is voters have increasingly decided not to take them seriously, which is why President Trump keeps growing his margins with each passing election.
58:38Dan Bongino:And God willing, if J.D. Vance is the nominee, that he has a massive, massive victory. But the only way that's going to happen is if you and I help him do it. We've got to. We've got to, whoever the nominee is. All right. Thank you for being with us as always. Boy, I hope I can report to you that John Brandon's being indicted tomorrow. Wouldn't that be fun news? We'll keep tracking the news. I'll bring it to you on tomorrow's edition of Vince. As always, I've got the big national radio show, The Vince Show. You can check out the local listings, thevincshow.com, or watch us live on rumble, rumble.com slash Vince.
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