The Walls Are Closing In On The Deep State | Episode 160

25:03Totally disrespectful. Totally disrespectful. OK, so let me see. There's also this. There's a great moment with the president talking about deportations. Nora O'Donnell tried to turn it into a sob story. She said, you know, it's so mean what you're doing. You're going around, you're grabbing people and you're deporting them from the United States. Do you feel like it's gone a little too far? The president's answer? Cut nine. Great answer. Watch those. More recently, Americans have been watching videos of ICE, tackling a young mother, tear gas being used in a Chicago residential neighborhood, and the smashing of car windows.

25:42Have some of these raids gone too far? No, I think they haven't gone far enough because we've been held back by the judges, by the liberal judges that were put in by Biden and by Obama. You're okay with those tactics? Yeah, because you have to get the people out. You have to look at the people. Many of them are murderers. Many of them are people that were thrown out of their countries because they were criminals. I love it. Do you feel like you've gone too far? No, I don't think we've gone far enough. I don't think we've gone far enough. And by the way, that's a position that everybody who's working on the border and immigration mission inside the Trump administration agrees with.

26:19Stephen Miller, of course, considered one of the architects of the mission to clean up the country and eject foreign nationals, wants more deportations. Tom Homan is working on that right now. They're hiring 10 ,000 additional ICE agents as we speak because they want more deportations. These guys are serious about this mission. So do you feel like you've gone too far? Hell no. We haven't gone far enough. This mission is not over until it's over. and getting people out of the country is priority one. So that's the president answering that question. Great answer to Norah O'Donnell. And then finally, from the 60 Minutes interview, Norah O'Donnell floated a conspiracy theory that the left has been bandying about, about how President Trump intends to stick around for yet another term, as fun as that would be.

27:10Here is Norah O'Donnell floating the conspiracy theory. Cut 10, watch. Can you set the record straight? you're not going to try and run for a third term? Well, I don't even think about it. I will tell you, a lot of people want me to run, but the difference between us and the Democrats is we really do have a strong bench. I don't want to use names because it's inappropriate, but it's too early. But people do like when you start talking about whether you like J.D. Vance or Secretary Rubio. I do like J.D. Vance. I like Marco Rubio. I like so many people. We have an unbelievable bench. He would go on in that interview to say that maybe these guys could get together.

27:45The names he does keep referencing are J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio. It seems, I mean, not to read the tea leaves too much, but why not? It's a fun game. We talk about it at home with the family and like, hey, you're the president. He keeps talking about J.D. and Marco. It does seem like at this early stage, we've still got some time left, of course, in this already great term. It does seem like President Trump at this moment would be excited to see those two men run together. and it would be hard for me to reject that as a ticket that seems like a pretty good ticket as far as i'm concerned so far so good uh but look gentlemen you want to convince us keep putting wins up on the scoreboard we're watching we're watching all right hold on i've got uh the great rachel bovard is going to join us coming up in a moment from the uh conservative policy institute we've got a lot of discuss the set we've still got a shutdown going on and democrats as far as i can tell all they're doing is stepping on rakes with each passing day we'll get the latest with with Rachel Bovard.

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31:27She spent over a decade on Capitol Hill in a ton of different capacities in the House and the Senate. She was legislative director for Senator Rand Paul. She's served as the executive director of the Senate Steering Committee, which is chaired by Mike Lee. She's she's seen it all. She knows how it all works. Rachel, great to have you back on the program. Let me just because because, of course, you're with the Conservative Partnership Institute, I just want to start with one of the reasons that your organization's in the news in the past week, which is that Jack Smith was spying on you guys, that you were one of the the organizations that were subjected to this out of control, spying on the conservative movement?

32:04What did you think when you found this out? It's been a wild week because we didn't find any of this out until these whistleblower documents were released. You know, we were subjected to a number of subpoenas we did know about for executive level communications. And like so many other organizations in the conservative movement, spent millions of dollars complying with these subpoenas because that was the point, right? The point was the process is the punishment. But only now have we found out the extent to which we were targeted, not just by the FBI, who was apparently taking intel about our president, Ed Corrigan, which if you read some of the redacted emails released by Cash Patel, it's hilarious fever dreaming by the FBI.

32:46A friend of mine calls it weaponized blue anon because it's literally conspiracy theories that they just sent up the chain at the FBI. But they also secretly subpoenaed our bank records. They subpoenaed documents from our HR companies, any communication we might have had with media. This, you know, to put a very fine point on it, you know, because there's so much going on in the news and now people are paying attention to so many different things. But Arctic Frost really represents the biggest and most meticulous and systematic effort to take out the political right in this country. And they would have succeeded had not Donald Trump won in 2024.

33:23That was literally the only thing that stopped them because two years of this, Jack Smith didn't find a crime. But he was prepared to harass us, bankrupt us, smear us out of existence. So one of the obvious reasons I come to the same conclusion you do is because your organization, its mission is in its name, the Conservative Partnership Institute. You represent, your organization represents kind of a bridge on the right, that you're kind of the arteries through which conservatives communicate with each other, various conservative organizations. And if Jack Smith, led by the Biden administration, is going after you, what they're really trying to do is disable the entire conservative movement.

34:00Yeah, that's exactly right. And it's, you know, you read some of the things that they were, the FBI was saying about us. Oh, they're pro Putin. They're anti Biden. They have plans that are not good for the FBI. Guys, I spend 50 % of my day teaching Senate staff how cloture works. Right? Like, I am not a threat, except as you point out, that we do, we're a networking hub for the movement. A ton of the conservative movement passes through our doors. We're an organization designed to help and support the movement succeed. And that was a threat. That was the threat. Nothing beyond that. Do you want to see Jack Smith prosecuted?

34:34Do you want to see anybody prosecuted here for this behavior? I absolutely do. And, you know, to ensure this doesn't happen again, because someone asked me recently, well, what laws were broken? The entire system of laws was undermined. Right. This was a weaponized system of government. They used the authority of the federal government to try and eliminate their political opposition. The only way that you can ensure this never happens again is if the scale of the accountability matches the scale of what was done. So it shouldn't just be Jack Smith. It should be everyone that signed off and participated in this obvious political weaponization of the justice system.

35:12I'm talking about disbarments, impeachments, terminations, potentially jail if laws were broken. But things need to this. This can't be a traditional Republican exercise where they have a press conference, get really angry, send a few letters and then move on. This has to be driven to ground. You know, I will say, I mean, you're familiar with the United States senators. They're they're notoriously cautious about the extent to which they finally do the things that voters want them to do. And so, for instance, this past week, you saw a number of Republican senators led by Ted Cruz calling for the impeachment of Judge James Bosberg for signing off on all of these spy warrants against United States senators.

35:51And the reaction among certainly this audience, I think conservatives across the country is like, well, good. That's good that senators are on board. But why did it take you being spied upon to finally arrive at this conclusion like the rest of us have already been there? Yeah, you know, like, I am fine with whatever motivation it takes these guys to get up and do something. If it's, you know, fine, they were spied on and that's enough so we can finally do something okay. But yes, like it was much bigger than just, you know, spying on the phones of senators, which is such a breach of the separation of powers that alone should constitute, you know, a complete examination of what went on.

36:29But it was far broader than that. I mean, you are talking about activists throughout the country, you're talking about network of organized groups, any single person that materially supported the MAGA movement was targeted. And people don't have the resources and platforms of United States senators, right? These are innocent people who are engaging in their First Amendment rights, who are intimidated, shamed, bankrupted, smeared by their government, right? This was done in their name. And that's just what's so outrageous about it. So, you know, to members of Congress, like this is what your representative function is, is standing up for these people who can't stand up for themselves.

37:02And also, I mean, if you look at the details of why AT &T did not hand over Ted Cruz's phone records they said he was protected by the speech and debate clause which is true he is but that's a privilege reserved to senators and congressmen that's not if if i'm an at &t customer i don't get that privilege as a civilian i don't get that privilege so so even members of congress have special protections here and uh again it's just to to kind of make your point it's like you know if these guys can be targeted in this way what chance do the rest of us have no that's exactly Right. So, gosh, I hope that this gets them off their butts because I have this is the size and scale of Arctic frost.

37:40I think we are just going to continue to find out how bad it was. It's nothing like this. I've never seen anything like it in my life. It's unreal. OK, so Congress is also dealing with the government shutdown right now. Democrats are basically stubbornly continuing to keep the government shuttered for for no good reason whatsoever. So ever this none of this makes any sense to me, Rachel, from a political standpoint, because they have not been the political beneficiaries of all of all of this. The American public are siding with the president. They are convinced by virtue of reality that it's Republicans who are looking to get the government back open with each passing day.

38:19Why are we at this point? We've gone a full month now, just over a full month with the government shutdown. And Democrats are completely beholden to the most radical and unpopular elements of their party. How do you score it? I have never, again, going back to things I've really never seen before, I am actually really heartened by how unified Republicans have been in the face of this because they are just simply saying, no, we will not negotiate with you. This is a clean CR. We are not making any demands except that you keep the government open. And that kind of unity is usually not how we do things, right?

38:53But Republicans are standing together on this. And I think you're seeing Democrats just crumble. They are so disorganized. They cannot get behind a message and their allies are starting to turn on them. Right. You've seen the Association of Federal Employees come out and say, guys, it's time to open the government. And even leading Democrats in the Senate were like, oh, yeah, that's well, they're our friends. This is something we now have to consider. You know, you're seeing airlines like Delta start to publicly pressure them. You know, it's it's kind of they don't have a choice. They are going to run up against continuing to not pay the troops, continuing welfare benefits now shutting off.

39:29Right. There's litigation right now about whether SNAP can continue to be funded. And this is at the feet of Democrats. So, you know, kudos to the GOP. This this kind of message unity is not typically something that we have been able to sustain, but they're doing it. And that's under the leadership of the president. The president has has not just suggested, but outright called for an end to the modern filibuster. The filibuster in the Senate right now is, as you well know, is done not in the traditional sort of you stand up and give a big speech for hours on end arguing your point. Nowadays, it's just like a legislative maneuver and you have to move on.

40:04But the president is saying it's time to end that. We need to restore the filibuster to what it used to be, that if you want to filibuster something, you've got to stand up and speak. You can't just block all of the progress of the United States Senate right now. What do you make of the president's call for that? There are some Republicans who are concerned about this. They think that this is a bad idea because it would empower Democrats. But the reaction from the president is it doesn't matter. Democrats are going to do it anyway. So we may as well do it now. How do you view it, Rachel? Well, every every president has low key wanted to nuke the filibuster.

40:34This is not new. But I would just say this. There are ways to overcome the filibuster in the United States Senate that don't involve changing the rules. And it is doing exactly what you just suggested. There is nothing preventing Republicans from forcing Democrats to stand until they cannot stand any longer. And then you can put the vote at 51. Right. This idea that things can only pass the Senate by 60 votes. That's simply how you break a filibuster. The easy way. Right. The easy way is to invoke cloture at 60 votes. The hard way is what you just suggested, forcing Democrats to talk themselves silly.

41:07And the reason Republicans don't do it is because it's physically difficult. Right. All 51 Republicans have to be in the chamber and wait the Democrats out. That's basically the extent of it. And it's, this is, there used to be previous Senates and prior generations understood this. Trent Lott, a former majority leader, has this great quote where he says, there's actually only two rules in the Senate, exhaustion and unanimous consent. And you only get to the second once you've gotten to the first. You have to physically exhaust them into submission. There is nothing preventing Senate Republicans from doing that.

41:40Yes. Except for laziness. So they could still, what the president wants to happen can happen. without breaking the rules. The current 60-vote threshold and the non-speaking filibuster is a very recent invention. It came about in the 1970s. And people have operated as if this, oh, it's been here since the founding of the country. No, it's a very recent thing. And my sense of this, and Rachel, you've worked with the Senate, so you'll know better than I will. My sense of this is that the dirty secret in Washington is that even senators in the majority kind of like it because it means they don't have to take difficult votes, that they don't have to be that attentive to what the voters are calling for because they have the convenient excuse of saying, well, it's been filibustered, so I can't deal with it.

42:25No, it is absolutely true. And we've seen that it abused, it becomes a foil in that respect. Oh, I can't do it because we don't have 60 votes. But my point is the power has always existed to be able to grind the minority into submission. To your point, the filibuster wasn't, or the cloture wasn't actually in the Senate rules until 1917, and it was at 67 votes. In the 70s, it was reduced to 60 votes. But this is a modern invention. Senates previously overcame obstruction like this by forcing the minority to speak until they couldn't anymore. Nothing has changed. That still is the case. So, you know, you could tell the president we don't actually don't have to change the rules.

43:04You just need 51 Senate Republicans to man up and stay in the chamber. So that's so really, it's that simple. So in other words, Like the rules currently exist. So we could we don't have to change a thing right now. And a simple majority vote would force Democrats to have to speak to defend the position they've taken. There are only three things that can ever happen on the Senate floor, a quorum call, a speech and a vote. And if voting and quorum calls aren't taking place, speeches have to happen or you can vote on the question. Right. That is what the essence of a filibuster is. It's a delay.

43:34It's speaking to delay the vote. OK, so if you have a quorum present, if 51 Republicans are present in the chamber and no Democrat is speaking, you can put the question. So we could get the government open if 51 Republicans just show up on the Senate floor right now. Yes. Well, yes. And they have to wait out the Democrats. Right. It could take several days. If you were actually playing the scenario out, what I expect would happen is you'd attempt to put the question. Democrats would send their young guns in. Right. You'd see Cory Booker do a 24 hour speech. And then you'd see, you know, Ed Markey or, you know, any of these other younger senators would come down and give long, long speeches.

44:14You would have to wait until these are done. But the age of this of Democratic senators is approximately the age of the Republican senators. They can't sustain it. So you have to wait them out. And as soon as they cannot speak any longer, you can put the question. OK, somebody please clip this. Somebody please clip the exchange we're having right now, because the president of the United States should be posting this to Truth Social. This because if if what this takes is just get Republicans to do their jobs, we pay them a lot of money for show up on the floor of the Senate, get the government open, force the Democrats to have to speak.

44:47What am I missing here, Rachel? This does seem like the obvious path. It does. But the modern Senate is not 51 of them being in one place for days. Right. They all have fundraisers. They're all running for different things now. They're running for higher office. They have constituents they want to meet with. they have a million, they have family obligations. They do not want to have to sit on the floor for 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It is hard, right? I don't want to undersell it. It's hard. Yeah, it's very tough. It's way tougher than being a young enlisted person with a family who's not getting a paycheck for weeks on end, or air traffic controllers, or immigration guys, or the SNAP benefits that are going to people who deserve them, not the people who don't deserve them.

45:25So in other words, yeah, okay, get on the floor. Get to the floor. I'm so glad you're saying this because I'm I'm for restoring the Senate's filibuster rule to the pre 1970 level. I think that's the way it should be done. But even so, if it just takes 51 Republicans right now to get to the floor and force Democrats to run their mouths, do it, because then Democrats are going to have to explain themselves to the American people on the microphone on C-SPAN for hours on end until they exhaust themselves. Yeah, no, it is the talking filibuster still exists. It just has to be forced. And we haven't seen a majority enforce it on a minority in a very, very long time, but they could do it.

46:08Okay. Well, let's see. Let's get it done. I'm loving this. All right. Rachel Bovard, thank you as always for all of your wisdom. Appreciate you and please stay in the fight. And with any luck, we'll see Jack Smith, the prosecutor. I'll bring you back when that happens too. Thank you very much, Rachel. Can't wait. Great to see you, Vince. Great to see you. There's the great Rachel Bovard. Isn't that fun? That's interesting. So yeah, do it now. Get to the floor. Get to the floor. 51 Republicans. And I know it's like herding cats. You got like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski. There's, you know, there's some sidewinders in there.

46:43But just get them there. Just what's the deal? Are you going to whip the Republicans, get them to show up and force this thing open? Let's do it. Let's do it now. We've got the opportunity. Let's do this thing. let's talk about the food stamp thing so as you know there are people who are really on the edge right now about whether or not they're gonna get the food assistance that they rely on to keep feeding their families right now and there are there are definitely Americans who could use the support who are hungry who are poor who need the food stamps as a means to subsist and those are people that we should be looking out for we also have a program that is rife with fraud, that is overwhelmed by people who have been drawing on it forever, who are able-bodied, who have just become completely dependent on government, who've settled into that position.

47:37We also have illegal aliens who've been drawing from that system. So it's a system that's in desperate need of reform. And for more on this, I want to play a clip for you. This is about food stamps. as the United States Department of Agriculture, Brooke Rollins. She said, we arrived on the scene this year and we discovered that there are thousands upon thousands of illegal aliens who've been taking money from food stamps. Take a look here. Cut five. Watch this. There's been a lot of miscommunication out there on the program. But the first this is one of the first things we did when I walked in the day, day one of USDA, February 13th, is we sent letters to every governor in America being very clear that no illegal aliens can use SNAP.

48:23Zero, zero, zero. We asked every state for the first time in history, and this was in February, to send us their data and let us with Doge and a war room actually start going through this data to better understand how this explosion of SNAP benefits happened under Joe Biden. We increased almost 40 percent on this program in just a couple of years under the Biden administration. And since we have asked for that data, 29 states have complied, of course, almost all the red states, a couple of the, you know, a couple of blue states, too. But in that data, and I haven't talked about this yet publicly, in that data, we have found, we've studied about$100 billion in spend.

49:03We have found thousands and thousands of illegal use of the EBT card. We have been moving people off of SNAP. We've got almost 700 ,000 people. I think we've moved off just since the president took office. We've arrested about 118 people. So this has been ongoing. The Biden administration imported people into our country by the millions, by the millions. And when they did, they put everybody on public assistance. A lot of people, a lot of federal tax dollars flowing to people who should not be receiving that money. I want to remind you about the way people came into our country under Biden. They kicked open the borders and they said, go ahead, cross the Rio Grande, pour into the country, come across the border.

49:51And when people did, first and foremost, they illegally immigrated. They came across the border illegally. And then after they did, they would turn themselves into Border Patrol and they would claim a, quote, credible fear. They were coached into these claims, despite the fact that they did not in any way qualify for asylum in the United States. They would begin the asylum process. And so the next step would be that they were paroled into the country. They were already in the country illegally, but they were given a parole status to be able to stay here while their asylum claim was adjudicated.

50:26Well, that filled up, that filled up the public dependency roles. People started taking massive numbers of food stamps. And so what you're hearing Brooke Rollins describe is we found millions upon millions, thousands upon thousands, millions upon millions, you can safely conclude, of illegal aliens on food stamps. Biden did that. And so that needs to end. We've got, look, we have a country of over 300 million people, as you probably well know. Over 40 million people in the United States right now are on food stamps. Many of them are not citizens of the United States. 40 million people, that's greater than 10 % of our entire country's population is on the food stamp rolls right now.

51:09So if there's one area of government spending that desperately needs to be fixed and right-sized and preserved for people who are actually here, who live here, who are American citizens, who are in desperate need of help, we need to fix that program for them. We had a court over the weekend indicate that the president needs to find ways to give money to this program right now. and the president even posted to Truth Social, he said that he is working hard to make sure that food stamp benefits can still go to Americans who need it. The president posted to Truth Social that his government lawyers right now don't think we have the legal authority to just pay SNAP, that is food stamps, with certain monies that we have available.

51:56And we now have two courts who have issued conflicting opinions on this. He says, I don't want Americans to go hungry just because radical Democrats refuse to do the right thing and reopen the government. The president says he's instructed his lawyers to ask the court to clarify how we can legally fund food stamps as quickly as possible. It's already delayed enough due to the Democrats keeping the government closed through the monthly payment date. And even if we get immediate guidance, it will unfortunately be delayed while states get the money out. He says it will be his honor. It will be my honor to provide the funding, just like I did with military and law enforcement pay.

52:33So the president is pointing to the fact that there are definitely Americans out there who do need food stamps right now, who could use the help, who could use the food for their families. And he said that my job is to make sure that they get fed. And so he's looking at creative ways to fund the people who need this. So food stamps, he's trying to find funding. Military, he's been working to find funding. Law enforcement, he's been working to find funding. The president is trying to triage this situation to figure out a way to take care of the people who most desperately need it right now. And it doesn't have to be this way.

53:11It doesn't have to be this way. And if I'm the White House right now, I'm taking Rachel's advice. You might think that everybody knows this. It's not the case. Not everybody knows these Senate rules down to the level that, say, Rachel Bovard does, including people within the White House who may not even be aware of what's available to them right now. That is a great piece of advice. Encourage these Senate Republicans to get 51 people on the floor and force these Democrats to have to ramble until they don't have anything else to ramble about, until they're exhausted. And when they're done, that government gets reopened.

53:45Please do it. Please. By the way, I want to talk to Rachel about that some more. Does that mean we could get nominees through on that basis, too? Because that seems like a good tactic, doesn't it? We can get U.S. attorneys approved. We can get a bunch of people through without having to deal with all this garbage. Might be worth it. It might be worth it. OK, so we we have the food stamp stuff. Here's Scott Besson saying the president's working very hard to solve all of this right now. Here's here's. Do I have that, fellas? Yes, I do. Cut 11. Here's Scott Besson, the Treasury secretary. Watch. President Trump just truthed out that he needs to hear from the courts how this is going to be done.

54:27And, Jake, as you know, the best way for SNAP benefits to get paid is for Democrats, five Democrats, to cross the aisle and reopen the government. Right. But there is this contingency fund. And as recently as September 30th, the Agricultural Department had a memo saying that these funds, the contingency funds, I think it's about five or six billion dollars, could be used to pay these benefits. It would only be two or three weeks, but that's a lot for people who need the who need the food. Well, President President Trump, just as I said, President Trump just truthed out that he's very anxious to get this done.

54:57And it's got to go through the courts. The courts keep jamming up things. Democrats are in the middle of a civil war and they should just open the government. That is the easiest way to do that. The easiest way to get people fed is for Democrats to stop prolonging human suffering for their own cruel advantage. Pretty straightforward from the Treasury. How great has Scott Besson been, by the way? Hasn't he been wonderful? What a talented asset to have in that administration, the Treasury Secretary. He's been great. They could solve this right now. In fact, Scott Besson revealed something this weekend that you may not have known.

55:33He said that the first year of the Trump administration has actually gone a long way towards reducing the deficit. said they're spending way less money this year than Biden did in his final year in office. Take a look. Here's Scott Besson, cut six, explaining a little bit of fiscal responsibility on the way in the Trump administration. I believe that we are in a transition period here. As we are seeing, the Trump administration has cut back on government spending. Jake, what has gone unnoticed during the shutdown is for the fiscal year that in September 30th, the government spent less than it did the year before.

56:15And because the GDP grew, the GDP, which had been 6.4, the deficit to GDP, which had been 6.4, 6.5 percent deficit, the highest one we weren't at war, weren't in a recession ever, we were able to bring it down to 5.9 percent. How hard have they been fighting to cut spending? How hard is this administration been fighting to achieve that? It's been difficult. They've faced all sorts of headwinds. Congress refuses to help them. You know, you've got like things like rescissions where the president's been able to cut some spending, but he's getting a lot of pushback from Congress as he attempts to do that.

56:53They're trying to impound money. They're trying not to spend as much. They're firing people at the Department of Education. They've been firing federal workers during the shutdown until a judge, an Obama judge, dived in the way. they've been trying very hard to reduce the spending that this government does and fortunately we get that that information that he's spending less than biden did which is not a shock but it is good to hear i i hadn't heard an update on that and there i have it from uh from the treasury secretary that's very cool let me end with um something kind of wonderful the uh the vice president of the united states jd vance is uh hilarious he's a he's a good american and um There's been there have been memes that have been going around for some time of J.D.

57:38Vance with like curly hair and a big fat face, like kind of a like a chunky sort of hilarious sort of bizarre looking version of J.D. Vance. So it should come as no surprise to you that on Friday for Halloween, the vice president chose to dress up as his own meme. Take a look.

58:01happy halloween kids and remember say thank you

58:14this is so funny it's so good it's so good i was i was laughing to myself this weekend i had to show my wife i was like alice come here look at this look at the vice president look what he's up to he's really good and uh you know with any luck the 48th president of the united states there he is you know who doesn't like that the left the left hates that the left they've already got jd derangement syndrome is it jdd s yeah there he is there's the meme we put the meme on screen i love that it's not too far off he's in better shape than his meme is but that's i think that's by design. Hey, I got a big national radio show coming up today.

58:52I believe we have, let me verify. Yep, we've got confirmation. I will have Thomas Speciale on today, the Intel community guy who confronted John Brennan. He's on the radio show today. So be sure to tune in for that. We'll have him in the third hour today. And I'm always grateful to have you. You're the best audience anywhere. God bless you. Great to have you with us today. I'm back with you tomorrow.