In short
The Dan Bongino Show episode argues that mainstream media and left-wing politicians “pretend not to know” facts, using examples including: (1) continued coverage of a claimed Trump assassination/death-threat story tied to Turkey and criticism of MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell; (2) claims that high-crime cities are actually run by Democrats; (3) voter-fraud ignorance claims involving David Axelrod/Obama; (4) rent control failures in New York City under Mayor Eric Adams/“Mamdani” (as referenced); and (5) public education producing students who can’t read/write, with a Texas teacher clip used as evidence.
Guest backgrounds
Daniel DiMartino is the featured guest. Bongino describes him as having lived in Venezuela and experienced his family under “torture and depravity,” and as a commentator who discusses socialism; Bongino says he recently appeared on Fox and Bongino played clips to criticize socialism.
Key claims
Media narratives don’t fit their own stated positions; O’Donnell calls Trump a coward while Bongino argues Trump acted as commander in chief in a dangerous situation; AI makes it harder to isolate audiences from facts; rent control raises rents and reduces apartment availability; public schools fail basic literacy despite high per-student spending.
Notable examples
O’Donnell “fight/cheese/hammer” clips; a ChatGPT exercise about partisan leadership of top crime cities (Bongino says 9 of 10 are Democrat-led); Kornacki on missing USB drives in Wisconsin; Axelrod “voter fraud” ignorance; a Texas teacher saying seniors can’t read or write; DC National Guard crime-deterrence interview.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VODaniel DiMartino Joins the Show
0:45 to 1:23
Discussion about the guest Daniel DiMartino and his views on socialism.
“He is a just brilliant young man who talks about socialism.”
Farewell to Caroline Levitt
1:23 to 3:00
Dan reflects on the departure of press secretary Caroline Levitt and shares a personal story.
“You know, a lot of people working for you may have missed it.”
Trump's Threat Narrative
3:00 to 3:22
Dan discusses the media's portrayal of a supposed assassination plot against Trump.
“sometimes goes by Lawrence at MSNBC who is really mad Is he not?”
Trump's Threat Narrative
3:23 to 4:35
Dan discusses the media's portrayal of a supposed assassination plot against Trump.
“Hey, I've had that moment before where, you know, the check engine light comes on in your car.”
Continuing the Trump Story
4:50 to 6:40
Dan critiques media reactions regarding the assassination plot narrative.
“At least so far, the hyperdrive seems to be working.”
Larry O'Donnell and Media Credibility
6:40 to 8:12
Discussion on Larry O'Donnell's comments about Trump and media credibility.
“Now, you're not there to secure the press from a threat.”
The Nature of Heroism
8:12 to 14:00
Exploration of heroism and Dan's personal anecdotes related to Trump's actions.
“I know the difference between a man and a woman.”
Hammering Bravery
14:00 to 16:50
A humorous and chaotic discussion about a clip featuring Larry's bravery against a hammer incident.
“There was a hammer somewhere around, and Larry was under dangerous assault.”
Trump's Cowardice Claims
16:50 to 19:40
A critical analysis of claims regarding Trump's actions during an incident and the media's portrayal of him.
“Guy's greatest call ever may have been like, Dan, you need to talk about this because you know I'm hot about it, like the mask thing, like never bring it up.”
Trump's Cowardice Claims
21:29 to 22:30
A critical analysis of claims regarding Trump's actions during an incident and the media's portrayal of him.
“Listen, everyday expenses, they keep piling up.”
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Democrats and the Lies
22:40 to 28:00
A discourse on the false narratives spread by Democrats and the implications for voters.
“The Democrats, Socialists, Progressives, Liberals, Green Party, they're all the same type of communist.”
The Flaws of Rent Control Policies
28:00 to 28:42
Discusses how rent control fails to lower rent and impacts apartment availability.
“They force people to go to work who then don't work really well because they don't want to be forced to go, you know, to go to work.”
The Value of Property and Investment
28:42 to 30:29
Explores the basic economic principles behind property ownership and rental decisions.
“How old do you think you were when you could have put that together?”
The Disillusionment of Expectations
30:29 to 30:58
Analogy comparing unmet expectations in socialism to horror movie surprises.
Election Night Mismanagement
30:58 to 32:05
Analyzes a live TV reporting mishap during an election night broadcast.
“You thought you were watching arachnophobia.”
The Problem of Missing Election Data
32:05 to 33:35
Discusses issues with election data integrity and the response from the media.
“uh report family here vince brought up a great point i had this clip i should have played it yesterday but i i as you can tell from today's show i just i i just over prepare and sometimes stuff gets left on there.”
The Influence of Media on Voter Perception
33:35 to 36:42
Examines how media narratives shape public perception about voting and elections.
“It's been four hours since polls closed.”
Climate Change Narratives and Public Opinion
36:42 to 37:52
Investigates the disconnect between climate change messaging and public concern.
“Unlike Donald Trump, who said fight, fight.”
The Disconnect Between Media and Reality
37:52 to 40:06
Discusses how Democrats isolate themselves from factual realities regarding policies.
“tell you it's an existential issue we're all gonna die you would think what jasmine 90 percent of Democrats would care, right?”
Voter Fraud and Political Accountability
40:06 to 41:59
Addresses claims of voter fraud and the implications for political figures.
“And the only way to be immune to facts that exist in the real world and not the fake world is to isolate you from the truth.”
Voter Fraud and Political Malpractice
42:00 to 44:44
Discussing instances of voter fraud and its implications in politics.
“In that case, he should be fired for political malpractice.”
The Crisis in Public Education
44:44 to 46:38
Exploring the failures of public education through a teacher's perspective.
“The public school system model is totally, completely broken.”
Educational Accountability and Reform
46:38 to 49:06
Highlighting the need for accountability in education systems and contrasting it with law enforcement.
“where he's getting them for the first time, who can't read.”
Public Safety and Crime Rates
49:06 to 52:56
Discussing the impact of policies on crime rates and community safety.
“We're just going to keep effing over your kids.”
Political Reality vs. Public Perception
52:56 to 56:01
Examining the disconnect between political narratives and people's real-life experiences.
“You don't want that in your neighborhood?”
Republican Performance Discussion
56:01 to 56:43
Exploring notable Republican performances and humorous exchanges.
“The closest notable Republican performance was Reagan in 1980 when he received a whopping, This is unbelievable What, 40 %?”
Charisma and Cultural Pride
56:59 to 59:41
Discussing Marco Rubio's charisma and defense of American culture.
“to teach you how these people will just self-own themselves.”
Celebrating American Diversity
59:42 to 1:01:59
An Australian's perspective on the richness of American culture.
“Like we're just a bunch of, you know, hayseed idiots, you know, morons out there.”
Personal Reflections on American Life
1:02:00 to 1:06:09
Sharing personal stories that highlight the warmth of American culture.
“You know, America is baseball, basketball, football.”
Guest Introduction and Highlights
1:06:10 to 1:07:25
Introducing guest Daniel DiMartino and discussing his previous appearances.
“And it's really sad that someone from another country had to tell you about the greatness of America.”
The Messaging Gap in Our Movement
1:10:48 to 1:11:38
Discussing the challenges in communicating the values of freedom and capitalism.
“And there is a there's a real paucity of that in our movement.”
Socialism in American Life
1:11:38 to 1:13:16
Exploring how socialism manifests in American systems and its effects on society.
“And in many cases, that's how you get rich and merit.”
Government's Role in Societal Issues
1:13:16 to 1:14:48
Analyzing the relationship between government intervention and societal failures.
“And we have the practical socialism here in America.”
The Complexities of Wealth Generation
1:14:48 to 1:16:35
Understanding the nuances of hard work, ingenuity, and their roles in wealth creation.
“Government, it screws everything up because it has no incentive to do anything right.”
The Flaws of Socialism: A Personal Perspective
1:16:35 to 1:18:39
Daniel shares experiences from Venezuela to highlight socialism's failures.
“Some of them will not become billionaires.”
The Deceptive Nature of Socialist Policies
1:18:39 to 1:23:40
Discussing how socialist politicians manipulate public perception through lies.
“We had shortages of every food that you could imagine.”
Hugo Chavez's Real Agenda
1:23:40 to 1:24:00
Examining the motivations behind Hugo Chavez's policies in Venezuela.
“They just want the rich to become poorer.”
The Dystopia of Socialism
1:24:00 to 1:26:12
Exploration of how socialism leads to societal failures and poverty.
“scumbag he was a killer but he wasn't stupid he saw within a year or two as people were eating pigeons on the street in Venezuela.”
Education and Voting Patterns
1:26:12 to 1:27:57
Discussion on how education influences voting for socialist policies.
“Yeah, man, I'm really so glad I had you.”
Misunderstanding Socialism vs. Welfare
1:27:57 to 1:30:47
Clarifying the differences between socialism and welfare state functions.
“We agree to representatives that make laws like the laws are we're going to do the police enforce the law.”
Government Control of Resources
1:30:47 to 1:34:25
Critique of government control over resources and the implications.
“Like here's the lid on groceries for the store.”
The Consequences of Socialism
1:34:25 to 1:36:14
Personal stories highlighting the dangers and consequences of socialism.
“And so I bear the consequences of socialism that I never chose, that other people chose for me.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:02All America, all the time. Sit down, buckle up, and get ready for the Dan Bongino Show. Hey, big shout out in the chat to MedEd9111 from Palm City. Justin knows a little. I used to live there. A beautiful, awesome place in South Florida, Palm City. So shout out, MedEd. I saw that I was looking at the chat, as I always do before the show, try to interact with folks because I'm just one of you guys. I'm just on the other end of the microphone. That's it. Stacked, loaded, packed up show for you today, including a guest. Finally, we got him. Daniel DiMartino. Who's that? Well, if you're a regular listener to the show, you already know.
0:46He is a just brilliant young man who talks about socialism. He lived in Venezuela and his family under the torture and depravity. And he went on Fox a couple of weeks ago. We played the whole clip and just destroyed this socialist idiot. He is going to be on the show today. It is going to be a master class in why socialism sucks major. You figure out the rest. Also, before we get started, I would be disappointed in myself if I did not mention that we are really going to miss Caroline Levitt. Did you miss the news yesterday? You know, a lot of people working for you may have missed it. The amazing, spectacular, kind, generous, quick-witted, intelligent press secretary.
1:34My humble opinion, you can have a different one. Up to you. I'm just telling you, like, I don't think anyone's done the job better. Maybe people did the job as well, but never better. Caroline Levitt, we interviewed her. Remember, Guy, we interviewed her on the show when she was running for Congress. And we were like, damn, she's really good. My favorite Caroline Levitt story, that was nothing to do with politics. I was at the Miami Heat, Boston Celtics NBA Finals. Remember that, Justin? Was that three years ago or something? We got smoked. And the Miami Heat lose at the end of the game. I forget who hits the three-pointer.
2:06My daughter's devastated. We're walking out. and I hear, Bungino! And I'm thinking it's like some Fox News watcher. I'm like, hey, I turn around. I see this big green jersey and it's Caroline Levin. There's, thanks guys. There's President Trump on True Social doing what he always does. He's ridiculously loyal to his people. He is, just acknowledging. So Caroline, you are going to be really, really missed. Well, I'm interested who's going to take her place. I've seen a bunch of names. I saw Jason Miller, Rachel Duffy Monica Crowley I saw a bunch of them, so we'll see That's going to be fascinating I'm not kidding, I'm not being a jerk about it I genuinely can't believe they are still going with this Turkey Secret Service story I'm not going to spend a ton of time on it but this meltdown by Larry O'Donnell sometimes goes by Lawrence at MSNBC who is really mad Is he not?
3:06He's mad that Trump didn't go along with the assassination plot. He's like, what a coward not getting shot again. I'm kidding. This actually happened. I cannot believe the face plant the media is making on this story and they're still going. That and a whole lot more. Hey, I've had that moment before where, you know, the check engine light comes on in your car. The sweat start, the anxiety. What the heck is this bill going to look like? Going to be out of action. How do I get a rental? You know, all the pain that comes along with repair costs. and they're not getting any cheaper. Everything in the car is electronic now.
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4:50Right, fellas. Let's go. At least so far, the hyperdrive seems to be working. If you missed the opening of yesterday's show, it was epic. As we tried to figure out in live time how the quantum capacitor broke down, it was like, it was great. It just goes to show you, like, that's the benefit of being here live, right? That catastrophe could happen in a second. And if you watch it on demand, we appreciate that, but you miss all the fun. So I promise I'm being authentic and genuine here. I really can't believe they're still going with this President Trump death threat story in Turkey. I'm going to tell you why.
5:28Number one, the story doesn't even work for them in their narrative that the Iranians are not dangerous and this was a war of choice. Correct, fellas? That's their thing. There's a war of choice. President Trump was sitting around playing Parcheesi one day with nothing. Iran did nothing wrong. They're Boy Scouts. And he just started to start dropping bombs on them. That's their narrative. Just put it in a search engine. War on choice. That's their thing. So the fact that they were, according to intelligence, trying to kill our, which we know their lethal plotting efforts. I've seen it. Don't tell me it didn't happen.
6:04I know stuff media people don't. Their lethal plotting attempts to assassinate political figures in the United States, President Trump and others, by the way, are very, very real. The death toll the Iranians have, you know, levied against us using VBIDs and the Middle Eastern theater, Hezbollah, the Beirut, you can't dispute it. so the story doesn't work for them but because they hate president trump they keep going second it makes them look like total cowards themselves they took on a job they knew was risky traveling with the president just like the secret service does just like the military does and just like the white house staff and now they're bitching and moaning i can't believe it man we went to like a hot zone around the world and there may have been a threat and i didn't get a personal secret service security detail you actually did whether you know it or not any p1 if you're a p1 and you pick this up i'll be super impressed if someone in the chat picks this up put it on the screen what am i talking about here you have to be a regular hardcore listener folks when you're a new guy on the president's detail the first place they put you as a young agent is yes i've talked with the press.
7:19Now, you're not there to secure the press from a threat. You would. So essentially, you have a security agent there no matter what. You're not going to let them die. But that's not why you're there. You're there to protect the president from the press. What do you mean? The press going to shoot the president? No. No. Practically speaking. But the Secret Service is concerned that someone may place a bomb in some of their camera equipment and maybe they know, maybe they know, maybe they don't know, who knows? Maybe it's surreptitiously done. They have security with them all the time anyway and they're still bitching and moaning.
7:59Here is this hapless dipshit, Larry O'Donnell. Of all the clowns in the left-wing MSNOW CNN space, folks, this guy takes the cake as like the biggest zero on TV and the male, I know the difference between a man and a woman. You got Rachel Maddow and this guy's up there with Acosta levels of stupid. Here he is last night. This actually happened. Complaining that President Trump is a coward because he didn't go along with the plot to assassinate. I'm sorry, man. This is this is why the media has zero credibility in this country. Check this out. To Donald Trump, heroism is something defined by movies, not by real life.
8:44And so he thinks of heroism as nothing but movie tough guy heroism, a purely fake kind of invented heroism. That is why Donald Trump posts fake images of himself like this. No president has ever done more than Donald Trump to reveal himself to be a deeply cowardly man. and no president other than Donald Trump would ever dream of trying to create a courageous image of himself by turning himself into a fake movie character and publishing a deeply perverse photograph like that one that we just showed you.
9:31You know, fellas, Andy, right, if there was only a photograph of President Trump, like acting heroically under fire. I mean, Larry's right. You know, it's all fake. You know, what is it? What are you guys putting on this? It's like something.
9:54If you're listening on Apple and Spotify, you're missing all the fun, right? There was only one picture, guys. Right, Justin? No one's seen this before. How did you get this? This is not like an iconic image that 99 % of the globe's already seen. If there was Larry O'Donnell, dipshit O'Donnell, if there was only one picture of a man getting shot in the head and then heroically standing up and not saying run but fight, if there was only a picture of him doing that, it's the weirdest thing. It's the strangest thing. POTUS gets shot in the head. He gets shot in the head. They're like, no, he got shot in the ear.
10:33Ear's on the head, dipshits. I don't know. Where do you think the ear is? On the ankle? He was shot in the head. Avoided death by what? A millimeter? Maybe a half a millimeter. If there was only a photo of him getting up. And what did he say when he got up? Because nobody knows. No one. What did he say? Run? Did he say, secret service guys, let's get out of here? Now, Sean Curran, the director. Did he say cheese? Cheese? Smile? What did he say? No, he said fight. He said fight. Now, Sean Curran, the director of the Secret Service, I've known for many years. I consider him a friend. Sean is in that picture.
11:12He's the guy right there. I have spoken to Sean, and Sean has related to me many times. If they didn't get the president out of there, he would have finished the damn speech. It's almost as if Lawrence O'Donnell. Who is it? I don't want to use this word. I'm sorry. Wait, language. I'm sorry, guys. I'm just going to tell you now. This is one of these words I rarely have ever used, but it's a pro. Where do you think I'm going with this? Lawrence O'Donnell's a big pussy. I hate using that word. Sorry. Lawrence O'Donnell.
11:48Thankfully, and I'm not being silly here at all. I abhor violence, period. Not a joke. Thankfully, none of this has ever happened to Larry O'Donnell. And God forbid it ever does. Larry O'Donnell and candidly folks probably 98 to 99 % of the audience if bullets start flying towards your head what are you doing he's like I'm GTFO and look up what it means I'm not hanging out to finish his speech listen Larry the pussy you should make that trend you really should cat turd I don't ask for a lot of favors, but you should really make that trend today. I promise you, if God forbid this were to happen to you, the last thing on your mind is telling the Secret Service detail, I'm not going anywhere.
12:40I want to finish my speech. Sean told me he didn't want to go. The first thing he was looking for was his shoe. He wasn't even looking for, like, to get out of there. I spoke to him, what was it, two days later at the RNC. Was it a couple of days? We were in Wisconsin, remember? It was right before the RNC. I spoke to him on the phone. I'm not dropping like, oh, look at me. I'm not, that's not the point. Folks, I said to him, I go, oh my gosh. I, you know, I'm glad I'm talking. I was talking about something different, but I had to obviously say, hey, I feel really terrible. He was talking about getting shot in the head.
13:11I swear on my life. Paula heard the whole conversation. She heard, he was talking about it like it was no big deal. He's like, yeah, man, it's crazy. I'm reading this chart. I felt like I got bit by something. Oh, wait, what do you need, Dan? He just moved right on. He wasn't like, oh my God. I was scared to death. Folks, I swear to you on my integrity, he acted like nothing happened. You can call the president whatever you want, Larry the pussy. You can. But calling him a coward, saying, oh, I only wish there were a picture. You're just filth. You're just filth. Of course, some of you in the chat, I've been looking out of the corner, Mariah, I see where I'm going with this too.
13:56I don't know if you remember when, Larry was under attack, too, and how Larry reacted. He was? He was. There was a hammer somewhere around, and Larry was under dangerous assault. And here is Larry bravely standing up against the hammer, screaming, fight! Fight the hammer! Fight the hammer! You know, like a public enemy? Fight the power! Here it is. Bravery. Coming up, is Donald Trump going to be called to testify to Congress? Michael Iscoff has the latest on that.
14:34Stop the hammering. Stop the hammering out there. We've got a hammer. Where is it? Fight the hammer. Where's the hammer? Fight the hammer. Go up on the other floor. Somebody go up there and stop the hammering. Stop the hammering. Fight the hammering. Stop the hammering. Fight the hammering. Fight the hammering. Fight the power. Fight the hammering. He'll go himself. He'll go himself. The balls on this guy. Fucking Phil Griffin. Stop the hammering, Phil. Bro, look at this poor lady. She's like, this is bravery like I've never seen it. Fight the power. Empty out the goddamn control room and find out where this is going on.
15:16Go to the GT control room. Go out there somewhere. Go out there now. He just go himself. God forbid the hammer. Stop the hammering. Motley, tear it up in the chat. Keep it. The woman talking in my ear was talking about the Labor Day special. The Labor Day? No, he's talking about the Labor Day special. Every time we went to a sock. Fight the hammer. Fight the hammer. What do you mean in the competition? Tell him, Larry. Look at his bravery. Not in the bush, though. Look at this bravery. I've never seen anything like it. This poor lady's back again. She's like, I can't believe I got to give this dipshit.
15:51Shit.
15:55this may be the greatest stop the show just stop we're going off the air forget the sponsors stop there just give that's the greatest clip we ever did i'm done self-praise sucks like aunt jane used to tell me i'm sorry i can tell by the muttlies in the chat right now this may be the greatest thing we've ever done sometimes they do that i think they're for real folks notice the clip is not funny because of me i'm not a comedian i promise you the clip is funny because it's just him doing what Lawrence O'Donnell does with the slightest stress whatsoever. Fight the hammer. Meanwhile, President Trump gets shot in the head, starts screaming fight, wants to finish the speech.
16:35That guy's a total coward. Larry the pussy. You believe... I cannot believe they're still going with this story. I cannot... Accused this guy... Let me bring up one more point. I'm sorry. Guy's greatest call ever may have been like, Dan, you need to talk about this because you know I'm hot about it, like the mask thing, like never bring it up. Not only that, we find out the other day that the press and the jet, the backup Air Force One they were on, was escorted by fighter jets. In other words, they had a full security team to get them home. The press has never said like what their plan was. No, we want to take a school bus home back across like the Atlantic.
17:16maybe we'll do a black sea kind of bosphorus transfer through europe and into the mad and they never have they have nothing to offer and then when i want you to think about this one more thing i promise before i move on because if you're larry the pussy right you're saying to yourself right now president trump's a total coward can we all agree that the the president is the commander in chief yeah of course well there are liberals listening who are idiots who don't understand civilian control of the military can we just all agree the president is in charge of the military He is the commander in chief.
17:49Okay, libs, yes. The president alone gives permission for these strikes. Okay? The president was in a hot zone in Turkey. He could have waited a day when the Iranians started effing around to make them find out. Correct? Liberal, Larry the pussy, like, is everything I'm saying correct? He's the commander in chief. he did not have to institute those attacks while he was still in a hot zone. But he did it anyway, which put him in danger because he knew about the lethal plotting. What a coward. And do you believe the coward this guy is? What a coward. What a coward. Unbelievable. What a coward.
18:39This is, again, like this clip we did yesterday of Dems pretending not to know shit. Pretending not to know the president was shot in the head, jumped up at a podium, wanted to finish his speech and screen five. There was only a picture out there. I gotta take a break. I get so into these stories sometimes. Someone said at the beginning of the show, like, I love Dan, but sometimes he's like, he talks so fast, it's like he's on like meth or something. I promise there's no meth in my system. I'm just a Queens kid who gets really excited calling out liberal stupidity, especially these media edits.
19:11idiots. Can you imagine that? There was only a picture of President Trump getting shot in the head and acting heroically. Nobody's seen it. Justin found that on like a Reddit forum somewhere. No one's ever seen that photo before.
19:26Really, we got to save this one for the ages. Jasmine, put this in the library. I'm okay. I'm not dying. God forbid something happens and I get hit by a car and we want to run like years of best ofs. I want this segment like once a week. all right quick break and i'll get back to some others hey here's what i got coming up for you i was reminded speaking of democrats pretending not to know shit i saw this clip running around the internet yesterday it's from a fox news hit and it's marie harv claiming something so ridiculous what i'm talking about they pretend not to know stuff the minute you subject them to basic scrutiny every one of their arguments falls apart stay tuned hey the stakes right now cannot be higher We finally have a country fighting for America first, but if we lose focus now, the same people who created this mess, they are ready and waiting right now to resume their destruction, their cancel culture, all this crap.
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23:08That'll make sense if you stay tuned for my interview at the end of the show with Daniel DiMartino. Don't miss it. It's all trash. Remember that word. It's all trash. they're selling you. So when they have to pitch their message, they always have to lie to you or pretend not to know stuff. The second I stopped the show yesterday, well, the minute, whatever, jump back into my office. And this gem, this is from months ago, but it's worth your time. This is from Outnumbered, Marie Harf, who's a liberal, it's obvious. Marie Harf is on Outnumbered. And when they tell you things that sound ridiculous, I'm strongly encouraging you to just go look it up and you will see how ridiculous it is and that they're pretending.
23:48Marie's not stupid. She knows what she's saying here is fake, but she says it anyway. So we just did our favorite thing, which is we just went to the chat GPT and asked a simple question. Check this out. A lot of the cities with the most crime in the country are led by Republicans. This is not just a Democratic city problem. So the president doesn't talk about those, but there are a lot around the country in that list of murders, violent crimes that are Republican-led. Wait, what? We may have played this before. If we did, it doesn't matter. This is one of my favorite clips to put an accent on this point, how Democrats, liberals, progressives, commies are all the same thing.
24:30They always pretend not to know stuff. She knows that's not true. All she had to do was do what I did, go to ChatGPT, Grok, Anthropic, Gemini, I don't care. And just ask a simple question. Okay, you said the top 10 U.S. cities with the crime rates are run by Republicans. Here's my question. Verbatim, what are the top 10 U.S. cities with respect to crime rates and are the leaders of those cities Democrats or Republicans? Pretty straightforward question, Justin, no? I mean, it's what you just said. Well, ChatGPT doesn't pretend not to know stuff. Cities are Memphis, Oakland, Detroit, Little Rock, Baltimore, Cleveland, Kansas City, Milwaukee, Pueblo, Colorado, and St.
25:14Louis, Missouri. So I asked a follow-up question. Pretty simple stuff. Are those cities led by Democrats or Republicans? You saw the screenshot. It's not AI generated. The answer is, but that's not a fake screenshot. It's my actual phone. So the simple partisan breakdown is nine of 10. Is that 90 %? I'm not really good at math. Justin's like he's weighing it out right now. I think so. I think it's like 90%. Do we have an abacus? Jay gave us one a long time, and that's like a hardcore P1 thing right there. Jay's abacus. We need that. I don't even know where that is. It's up in the front, right?
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25:49On the coffee bar, right? So the simple partisan breakdown is nine out of ten of these high-crime cities are led by Democrats or Democrat-aligned mayors and one by a Republican. You can read the answer right there. You can just look at it. folks what i'm trying to get out message wise to people is obviously with lawrence o'donnell and i'll use a little bit of humor i do want to i want you to enjoy being here i mean i love cable news but you know we're all talking about the same stories correct we're not like inventing news that's what the left is they make up fake stories we try to talk about real stuff i'm trying to but the point here is not just entertainment the edutainment component of this educational entertainment had to bdp there's an educational component of this too which is the liberals you think you're voting for their coexist bumper stickers tolerance equity equality tolerance deis and tolerance twice that's not what you're actually voting for what you're voting for is to forfeit your money your health care your education your voting rights and your political power to a group of people that hate your guts and want to destroy you and my guest at the end is going to make that abundantly clear.
27:01Therefore, they have to lie to you to get you to believe things that high crime cities are led by Republicans. That's just ridiculous on its face. And then when they're confronted with reality, they just ignore it. In other words, you've got Mamdami, who is no question in my mind, a communist, no question in New York City. They're doing this rent control thing, which has never worked. You cannot control by government the price of a product. You can't without putting people out of business. If a doctor to turn on his lights every morning, whatever it may be, my brother-in-law is a perinatologist, right?
27:39If it costs him$4 ,000 every day he opens, HR staff, custodial staff, lighting, electricity, equipment, insurance, it costs him$4 ,000 a day just to turn the lights on. And the government says you can't charge more than four thousand dollars a day amongst your 100 patients or whatever. He's not going to go to work. So what do communists do in the end? They force people to go to work who then don't work really well because they don't want to be forced to go, you know, to go to work. They want to work so they can earn money for themselves and their family. Mamdani's doing in doing this rent control thing.
28:13And here's the crazy part. It's not just that it doesn't lower rent. The average rent in New York City, after trying to crush the price with government, has shrunk the availability of apartments because no one's going to open up an apartment if they can't make money on it. Manhattan rents reach all time high of six thousand six hundred and fifty five dollars a month amid Mamdami's rent free. He's freezing it at an all time high and it's only going to get worse. a property owner who decides i'm not going to live in an apartment i own i'm going to rent it to someone is not going to rent it and lose money everyone just living it himself is this hard josh is this hard josh is like doing the spock thing your logic is sound i'm just like this is but i don't know flags Do it again Do it again I don't know flags Josh how long you been here Did you go to college Am I allowed to ask that You did okay I don't know If I'm not forgive me Did you need to go to college to figure out Like if you have a piece of property You could live in yourself That the reason you'd rent it out Is so you could get a return On your investment in said property Did you need to go to college to figure that out Shouldn't shouldn't.
29:31How old do you think you were when you could have put that together? Like, wow, if I'm going to give up something I own, I should get something in return. How old do you think you were? Wow, that's being generous. Teenager. I would dispute that because I know Josh is smart. I would say you were about five or six. Maybe the rent control argument, maybe teenager. But if I were to say to him, hey, Josh, can you give me up that pack of baseball cards? No, I think there's a Ken Griffey Jr. upper deck in here. Well, I'll give you 30 cents for the pack. You paid 25. Okay, I'll take the 30 cents. Why?
30:04He wants to direct you to a rookie. Why would he take the 30 cents? Because he pockets five cents and goes and buys another pack of cars. The five cents compensates him for the risk of losing the Ken Griffey Jr. card he thinks he may have had. It's not hard, bro. It's not hard. And then when you give them simple math, and you're like, hey, man, the math doesn't work, the reason doesn't work, Spock's telling them your logic isn't sound. This sounds really stupid. you're freezing rents and you got the highest rents in the country or in the region like whatever you said was going to happen didn't happen like the opposite happened you said peep to people you were going to give them a hostess cupcake and you kicked them square in the balls wow that's the hey everybody put your hands out we're going to give you a hostess cupcake or a ding dong boom kicking the freaking balls wow that hurt and it hurts even worse because you thought you were eating a cupcake and they kick you in the balls it hurts even worse it's like going to a movie you think it's a comedy and it turns into a horror movie.
30:58The movie's like exponentially scarier. You thought you were watching arachnophobia. Next thing you know, remember that movie? People are freaked out. Giant spiders eating people. Ah, they thought it was a comedy. Look it up. That's a famous example, by the way. One of my professors in college who's talking about it all the time. Arachnophobia and the movie Halloween. You know, Michael Myers. How that was like initially marketing-wise. you gotta, his name is I think Capsis, Robert Capsis or something, but he wrote this book and that example is in there, how Halloween was pitched as like this brother-sister story kind of, and they're like, ah, people get, the shit scared out of them.
31:35This is the same thing with socialism. Hey man, we're gonna control rents, it's gonna be really affordable. Rents are like the worst anywhere in the organized northeastern United States. You thought you were getting a cupcake. You got a kick in the balls with no cup on that really hurts even more and then they pretend not to know stuff vince was on the show yesterday you know vince calling ace he's on at eight o 'clock every day vince part of the bongino uh report family here vince brought up a great point i had this clip i should have played it yesterday but i i as you can tell from today's show i just i i just over prepare and sometimes stuff gets left on there.
32:20I want you to watch this clip from NSNOW. This guy, Steve Kornacki, is like a polling analyst, a numbers guy. He's not a hyper-partisan guy at all. But I want you to listen to this clip because this is like, you know, yesterday in the live show, we had a hyper drive meltdown and you got a lift and shift, which is what we had to do, right? I want you to watch Kornacki yesterday having a really hard time on election night in Wisconsin when socialist Francesca Hong lost the race having a really hard time adjusting on live TV to the fact that some USB drives disappeared like we've warned you guys about this forever we've warned you about this like there's a way to fix elections show ID generate a paper ballot to back up the electronic file count the ballot as the voter comes in none of this is hard counting votes ladies and gentlemen Josh a five year old could do it hey Johnny Johnny, Father Colbert, he's talking about Johnny Appleseed and his homily.
33:18Johnny Appleseed? Hey, can you look? Who is this bubble filled in for? It's filled in for Donald Trump. Okay, one mark for Donald Trump. This isn't hard. Watch Kornacki, like, I can't believe it. Missing USB drives. We can. You can fix this, you know. You just don't want to. Check this out. It's been four hours since polls closed. It's been an unbelievably interesting and intense night here. And it really is coming down to this one giant update in Milwaukee. But man, we waited 90 minutes for them. They did this whole procession. And then they find out there's nothing on the sticks. because the audience has been with us for four, six hours in some cases for this moment that didn't happen.
34:18And so, folks, we're going to I think we are going to wrap it here for the reasons we're saying here. You're just, but I just, I want you to know, I hate, hate, you know, doing this to you because it's, we, you've been, I know you're here for results and we've come to the point where it's like one thing away. I hope you understand that we just, you know, we got to let, everyone here has got to, you know, has been here for a long time. and I'm just trying to cleanse in the chat says, man, spit it out already. Listen, I'm not piling. I don't put this guy in the classes, Larry, that you figured we're going to, I don't.
35:05I think he's really a numbers guy. I don't know if he has a partisan. I really don't care. It's not the point. The point is, if you've ever done live cable TV, some may have, some of you may be influencers or content creators, whatever. Most people have them, but if you're ever on life, they put an IFB, the earpiece. I have one in now. There it is. These guys connect me in the morning. It's how I hear them. They're not screaming out the door. Well, sometimes they do, but they're talking in my ear. He's got an IFB in his ear. I can't say definitively, but knowing MSNOW and their severe partisan tilt, the reason I think you're getting that stumbling and bumbling around is I'd love to get Karnacki's take on this.
35:47I can almost guarantee you someone's in his ear like, move on, move on, because they don't want, because they want Democrats in a bubble. Voting's always great as long as we win. Voting has no problems. Of course, if we lose, accuse the president of Russian collusion and investigate him. But if we, don't worry, don't sow doubt, just move along. they live in a bubble they are they live in this totally insulated bubble because of people like marie harf and others who pretend not to know stuff lie to them and most importantly how do you get democrats progressives and commies to believe stupid shit like socialism's great you know republican cities have the biggest crime problem how do you get them to believe that one lie about it but isolate them from the truth don't ever let them see the truth which is going to get really hard in the era of AI.
36:39Folks, I want to hear smile a little bit, not like Joker smile, but good smile. Say cheese. Unlike Donald Trump, who said fight, fight. Lawrence O'Donnell said cheese. He wasn't posing. Stop the hammering. Stop the hammering. Fight the hammer. Lawrence O'Donnell, these guys, they live by talking points, right? This is going to get really hard in the era of AI to continue to bullshit people all the time. I want you to watch a CNN clip. I'm going to show you what I mean. You've been told by AOC and Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren, Hakeem Jeffries, this is a unified talking point amongst the left. There's almost no deviations at all.
37:15Climate change is devastating. We're all going to die. What did AOC say? We have 12 years. Meanwhile, Obama just bought a place in Martha's Vineyard. I thought you told us Martha's Vineyard is going to be underwater. Coastline property in Florida, right? Jasmine's never been more valuable. It's crazy. It's like Democrats are buying property too. It's almost like they know climate change is this whole narrative is crap it's a big hoax that humans are destroying the environment every day here's the proof for you smile that the democrats going forward making stupid arguments policing in red cities climate change gonna end the world in 12 years folks it's gonna get harder to sustain show us some receipts okay here's some polling on climate change democrats tell you it's an existential issue we're all gonna die you would think what jasmine 90 percent of Democrats would care, right?
38:02We're all going to die, right? How many actually care about climate change? Okay, let's check the receipts. Bottom line when it comes to voters is simply put, they don't care. They don't care. I mean, just look at these numbers. Okay, top issue in midterm vote, you can list up the three issues. The economy, not surprisingly, comes in at number one at 54%. Immigration, 28%. Look at climate change is. It's tied for 14th, tied for 14th, all the way down here at 3%. Johnny, I'm not the greatest mathematician in the world, but I sure as heck know that 54 % is a whole heck of a lot higher than 3%. So to what extent do people blame, you know, human activity for this?
38:42Say it's humans causing the earth to warm. Look at this. In 2016, it was 45%. Now it's 48%. Again, no real shift that's going on here as opposed to saying there's no warming or it's natural. And in terms of what the prediction markets are saying about, How hot it will be this year? It's going to be hot, Johnny P. And did you guys see the source on that? You're like, ah, Dan. Number one, it's on CNN with Harry N., who is, again, not some big conservative, you know, far-right activist, okay? Look in the corner of that poll. What does it say? Bongino Inc.? No. Breitbart? No. Daily Caller? No. It says Washington Post, Ipsos.
39:263%. 3%. It doesn't, that's a blip. That's not even, that could be a statistical anomaly. It could be zero. It could be zero. I don't know what the plus or minus is. It could be zero. It could be six. Source, WAPO, Ipsos. Either way, say on the high end, say it's plus or minus. And 6%, that's the statistical deviation error rate. You're telling me six out of 100 people are the only ones who care that the earth could end in 12 years? Why? Because they live in a bubble, the Democrats. They want to bring you in. The bubble is not in the real world. It's in the fake world. And the only way to be immune to facts that exist in the real world and not the fake world is to isolate you from the truth.
40:11And it's becoming impossible in the era of AI because you don't have to do homework anymore. What do you mean, Dan? Folks, you don't have to do homework anymore. When you see a Marie Harf clip like that about Republican cities having the biggest crime problem, you used to have to go to Google or whatever, Yahoo back in the day, AOL when it first started. And because these were partisan search engines, you'd have to get to page 20 before you got the Manhattan Institute, Heritage Foundation, Wall Street Journal. And nobody gets to page 20. So people believed it. It was easy to isolate people from the truth.
40:51AI can't do that. You can't have AI operate in reality, which is the only way it works, and then tell it to lie. All you have to do is ask the question now. There's no research required at all. That's why this is happening. Smile. Smile. I'm telling you, living in the bullshit world, the commies and the progressives live in, is going to get really mentally straining moving forward. I want to give you another example of Dems pretending not to know stuff or not knowing stuff. Axelrod here you know David Axelrod this is a really important clip David Axelrod was Barack Obama still is he's his voice to call him his right-hand guy is probably an understatement these two are thick as thieves right I call him Axe I remember this guy from when I you know worked in the detail in the White House this guy's everywhere he whenever he's talking he's like talking for Obama.
41:45This is him on a CNN panel feigning ignorance about a voter fraud, an actual voter fraud case. There was legal action taken. This is not some fairy tale or conspiracy theory. He finds out or pretends to find out. I don't really, maybe he didn't know. In that case, he should be fired for political malpractice. Pretending not to know for the first time that not only does voter fraud exist, but it actually benefited one guy called, what was his name? He was the president. He's Barack Obama. Yes. That was his boss. Check this out. In Arizona, he hired the ninjas. What were they called? The cyber ninjas.
42:23I'll give you I'll give you I'll give you an example where it has been determinative. And that's in my home state of Indiana, St. Joseph County. The gentleman you previously worked for, David Axelrod, Barack Obama, got on the ballot because Democrats in that county submitted fraudulent ballot petition signatures. people including the Democrat county chair went to jail over that Barack Obama should not have been on the primary ballot in the state of Indiana but that's not a voting that's not a voting issue like that's something well it is a voting issue because he he was on the ballot and that's not a safe America act issue though that's not a you know they're stealing the elections illegals are voting that's an Indiana issue because Indiana is the one that determines who's on their ballot how did how did that get determined how did how did that get determined It was finally exposed two years later.
43:10It went through the courts and several people found themselves in jail. But that's the problem. It didn't happen. They didn't find it before he was on the ballot. But it took years after. Folks, understand the point of this clip in conjunction with the Marie Harvcliffe, the rent control piece, and Kornacki puzzled about the voter issues in Wisconsin, too. There are only two explanations. Let's do the Spock. Is the logic sound or not? Either Axelrod is telling the truth, correct, and really didn't know, which in that case, how are you the main political advisor to a guy who later went on to become president and you're unaware of a major headline risk case where voter fraud benefited your candidate?
43:54You don't know that? Big problem, correct? Or number two, he does know about the case and is lying to isolate you from the truth. Either way, Dems are either pretending not to know shit or actually don't know shit. You as a conservative, your obligation is to know stuff. Because the left-wing media will attack you even when you're right. I'm not attacking this guy. I'm glad he did this video. But I saw this this morning. I had a, if you see the way the show is, I had to add this last minute. This video has gone pretty viral. I've seen it all over X. I'm on X all day. I'm not up there with Haley with the super scrolling, but I'm close.
44:35OK, there is this teacher and he's in he's in Texas. So to be fair, like this is a public school problem around the country, even here in Florida. The public school system model is totally, completely broken. Red states are actually trying to fix it. Blue states just want to keep pumping money into a failed system. But it is a problem. This teacher is devastated. This clip's been all over. You haven't seen it. Pay close attention. He gives a really basic reading, writing assignment, almost gives his students the answer. They're in high school. And folks, they don't even have basic reading and writing skills.
45:10The teacher's just stunned. Check this out. So I am on my lunch break. It is, I don't know, 1130 or something like that. And I just finished a three-hour class. I literally broke down in the middle of class because I'm teaching seniors. These kids are leaving high school and going to college, hopefully, after they finish. we had two paragraphs to read. One sentence, complete to write. I gave them, this is only day two, and I have seniors who simply cannot read and seniors who cannot write. Hat tip Darius Cooks, and I want to be as clear as scotch tape here. Good for him for speaking truth to power and the system.
46:30Good for him. We are in no way obviously attacking this guy who seems genuinely devastated at the fact that he has been given a group of students in high school where he's getting them for the first time, who can't read. Folks, I know there's tropes and cliches. Oh, you know, education's the civil rights issue for time. No, folks, it is. It is. You've got poor minority students, poor white students in struggling areas of the country too, poor Hispanic students who can't freaking read or write. Do you see why when I went on Fox, or was it two weeks ago, and just brutally took down the public education system.
47:16Who was it? The yeast or others? They couldn't take it. The fact that I was on Sean Hannity's show in front of 3 million people, speaking the truth about how blue city liberal schools and a lot of red states too, in the public education system, cannot teach basic skills for$30 ,000 to$40 ,000 a year per student in your tax dollars. They were like, I can't believe Bongino said they started attacking me. The difference is I went to the FBI and produced actual numbers. You can look them up yourself. Because every single day I did things they'd never done before. We had accountability meetings every single day.
47:53What are we doing about crime? What were the numbers last night? Did you see that homicide in Mississippi? Are we helping? We can't. We'll find a way in. Find a way to help. This was every day. I was relentless. 7 a.m., 6 p.m., after hours, weekends. I didn't stop. It's not a celebratory thing. You paid me to do it, whatever. I enjoyed the year there. That's what I had committed to with them. and we came out with actual numbers. They can't have that. When you compare what we did to what the public school system does, they're devastated that a guy they think is an idiot, me, oh, look at him, dumb cretin, stupid cop, secret service guy, what the hell does he know?
48:27And apparently a lot more than you. He had the best year ever in the FBI. All you did was arrest political figures. Here's another, put up that ex post. Here's another reason they never want you talking about. They want to isolate you from the truth and pretend not to know stuff that kids can't read. They know kids can't read. They don't care. Lee Kwan, Yimby on X. A politician needs to say this. I'm not a politician, but I'll say it. Quote, if the public school system gives society illiterate children, kids who can't read, in exchange for$44 ,000 per student per year, then the entire system should be obliterated and handed to the private sector for competency and results.
49:06Excuse me. Yes, yes, yes. folks they are pretending not to know stuff look at these numbers chicago third grade reading proficiency all low-income black hispanic they can't read you're paying 30 to 40 to 44 000 a year to teach a kid to not read that's negative teaching that's anti-teaching and Democrats and socialists pretend not to know. What was that Damon Wayans movie? Mo Money? Give us Mo Money. We're just going to keep effing over your kids. You pretend not to know this.
49:50But tie this stuff in, weave it all together. I showed you the CNN poll about how even liberals now are refusing to getting sucked in, many of them, and are starting to see through the BS, it's going to happen slowly, but it's happening. It's due to AI and elsewhere, climate change. Climate change is going to kill us. How many people think that? Three out of 100? Doesn't sound like it's going to kill us to them. I want you to see this man on the street interview. This guy goes out on the street in Washington, D.C., where me, Director Patel, the Department of Justice, the Marshal Service, the DEA, the ATF, Judge Jeanine, who's the United States attorney.
50:31We met after President Trump's explicit instructions, like do what you need to do to clean up D.C. There's no political benefit for him. They're not voting for him. We met and we're like, we are cleaning up this city. Folks, the numbers, the actual numbers are the opposite of what the public school produced. You give the money, they produce shitty results. You give the president and us money, we produced a what? 50%, 60 % drop in homicides in D.C. and a cratering crime rate. Those are just numbers. Whether you agree with them, you can shove it up your ass. I don't care. Watch what happens when you go and interview people on actual D.C.
51:04streets who are supposed to hate Donald Trump, right? I mean, crime crackdowns? I mean, who wants that? Check out the actual answers this guy got. The National Guard have been deployed to D.C. for more than a year now. What do you make of their presence a year in? I love them. I love them. Our kids deserve to grow up safe with a different environment. You know, for so long, D.C. has been a violent city. The goal is to get peace back into the neighborhood and society. I love them here. Keep them here. It's cleaning D.C. up. Keep them moving all around D.C. Clean them up. Clean them up. I love them.
51:38I tell them thank you every time I walk past them. All the crime statistics say they're down in no small part because of that. That's a deterrent. So we haven't had any really serious issues, especially with the teenagers lately. But I think they're doing an excellent job. I just feel bad about the young lady who lost her life last year. Let's take a look at the crime stats across the nation. We're seeing homicides rate on track to be the lowest in more than a century. Some people are saying this is like a good policy from the administration. What do you think? We lost more, you know, young people that could have been lawyers, judges, doctors, you know, could have been something in life.
52:15I think it was time to get a control, get this under control. and I do praise President Trump for that. Wow. That's a hat tip NTD, by the way, news on that. That's it. Josh is like, that's crazy. It's like when you ask actual people who live in the real world, unlike the Democrat socialist bubble where voter IDs unnecessary, a bunch of Republican mayors are looking to like defund the police. And when you live in the Democrat world of bullshit, when you get out of it, it's like a shocker. Go ask people, hey, do you want crime in your neighborhood? How do you feel about rapings and killings and home invasions?
52:55That really sucks. The Democrats are like, what? You don't want that in your neighborhood? This is crazy. Folks, how many times do I have to tell you this? People or policy. The president comes in with the same infrastructure everyone else had to deal with. He had. He had the FBI, DOJ. It's the same infrastructure. We can change the rules regarding infrastructure, but what changed? Why didn't the FBI, DOJ, why didn't Barack Obama or Joe Biden do this? The answer, Producer Jim, is because they didn't want to. So you can vote for people who continue to lie to you. Climate change is going to kill you.
53:36No, you know who's going to kill you? Any guesses inside? The actual killer on the street of D.C. with the gun giving you the sideways gat pose. That's who's going to kill you. Not Martha's Vineyard You're not going to drown to death You know who's going to kill you? The guy who shot President Trump in the head When he screamed fight fight Not the guy upstairs on the 8th floor with the hammer Stop the hammer That's not who's going to kill you bro The killer is going to kill you
54:07The DC residents aren't confused at all Nobody's confused but you Yeah President Trump You know how much political capital he's expending on this? Because he knows it's the right thing. That's it. What do you think, he's doing it for votes in D.C.? Hey, can you chat GPT? What was the last time a Republican president won the majority of the votes in Washington, D.C.? Was it ever? Legitimately, has it ever happened in modern times? I don't know. He's not doing this for votes. He's doing it because it's the right thing. He believes in broken windows policing Just like we did and we implemented Why is he beautifying the city?
54:50Because he lives there? No, he lives in Florida Because he knows when you let windows break over time It contributes to urban decay Which contributes to an environment of permissibility for crime Because he understands broken windows How do you know that Dan? Because he's talked to us about it What, you were there? No, you weren't Okay, so shut your piehole, media goofballs. You don't know what you're talking about. They don't even vote for him. A lot of these liberal cities can't stand him. But then when you talk to people on the ground after he comes in and changes things up, they're like, hey, I actually like the guy.
55:24Like, this sounds like pretty good stuff.
55:30Folks, we haven't, wait, last time Republican, if you mean the last time a Republican presidential candidate won a majority vote, we just did this in D.C. that has... This is crazy. I did not anticipate this answer. That has never happened since D.C. received presidential electoral votes in 1964. In fact, no Republican presidential nominee has ever, ever won D.C. Ever. The closest... You want to see some crazy numbers? The closest notable Republican performance was Reagan in 1980 when he received a whopping, This is unbelievable What, 40 %? No, 13 % of the vote That's the best You think he's doing this for the politics Are you stupid?
56:19Seriously, are you dumb? It's a yes or no answer No, I'm not dumb, so why are you acting dumb? Stop acting dumb I don't know flags I know you don't know flags Stupid is a choice They folded the shirt nice I don't have to lay Stupid is a choice If you like the shirts, by the way, 1776, 250 years of freedom. One funny one. On the other side, it says, of course, don't be stupid on the shirt. Go to steward.bongino.com. If you want, it's up to you. Paula loves the shirt thing. That's her baby. So that shirt is available there. Show your liberal friends. Buy them one. Buy them one. Folks, we used a lot of humor in today's show, and most of it had an educational component to teach you how these people will just self-own themselves.
57:05themselves they'll face plant just because they have serious tds trump derangement syndrome lawrence o'donnell just made a buffoon out of himself but sometimes i just play a clip because we need to make america funny again this one may i mean everybody was talking about this yesterday check this out we haven't done one of these in a while so we are committed to making you smile unlike you know the lawrence o'donnell fight fight fight thing where he thought he was screaming cheese or something like that did you see marco rubio on katie miller's excellent podcast katie gets all the best guests in dc and whenever she puts out an episode i'll pay attention to it katie had secretary rubio and his wife on did you guys see this this guy is just you want to talk about a dude that sweats charisma it's it's no effort to this guy at all he's not like the thing about him is he's funny and charismatic without trying at all at all he's asked a question totally out of left field like goes to show you how this guy will just like take the football and run with it wherever he's asked a question about the keto diet which i love but apparently marco rubio uh does not this one is a genuine like knee slapper this guy's great check this out i did at one time maybe four or five years ago i tried this thing called keto i mean you've heard of this and you just eat all this protein and so you go through this massive withdrawal from sugar and carbohydrates for the first 72 hours.
58:31It was a near psychotic event for me. It's true. If I did this in this job, I would be like, Mr. President, we must bomb Paraguay. And it's like, why? I don't know. I'm just really mad. I haven't had any sugar. So the point is that you can't, it really is not us. I'm not against this diet. I'm not asking that we ban it. I encourage people to try it. I'm just saying it's not for everyone. That's what I'm saying.
59:00i can't with this guy no matter what you throw at him then you know the crazy thing about this whole thing is this is the geese video of the day that's a good put that in the library for end of the year material for our video contest right the crazy thing about rubio is he'll flip the script in a second like remember the brady press room when he did the press conference caroline levitt was out on maternity leave and he's asked a question about the greatness of America that he clearly none of it staged at all and he just goes off with this remember that he gives this like five minute defense of American culture and American values and people were floored they were like damn this guy is good he's just quick man and speaking of American culture I try not to do too many viral videos because they're viral you may have seen them already but some of them I'll kind of pick out because they're in like little pockets in the net and you need to see them there is this i i don't know if she's australian or uh from new zealand i'm not sure i'm really bad at accents and i learned in my time in australia i was like hey man that's an australian accent i'm a kiwi man i never ever i don't know i don't know what this accent's from but this is a lady i think her name is marnie jones right folks rubio is proud of america i'm proud of america you're proud of america but one thing i hate that the liberals do i hate it i mean viscerally hate with a passion is this shitting on American culture.
1:00:27Like we're just a bunch of, you know, hayseed idiots, you know, morons out there. Like America's nothing to be proud of. Just a bunch of dopes, really. The finest culture, collective set of values humankind has ever created right now and we don't have a culture to be proud of. Sometimes it takes someone from a foreign country to recognize that this video, if it's not viral, you should make it one. I want you to listen to Marnie Jones here talking about American culture and what we really should be proud of. Check this out. Today, someone asked me why I moved to America. And I was like, well, largely because of American culture.
1:01:07And they were like, what culture does America have? And I was like, what culture does America have? Are America as cowboys, ranches, rodeos, the frontier spirit, traditional Southern hospitality, or the Californian surf culture, or New York ambition? What about Midwestern communities, or the deep traditions of the South? What about jazz, blues, rock and roll, hip hop, Hollywood, movies, Broadway? Some of the most influential artists of all time. What about Silicon Valley? What about fucking NASA? What about taking us to the freaking moon? What about all the universities, all the laboratories, and the research, and the sciences, and the humanities?
1:01:59What about all the inventors, and the entrepreneurs, and the engineers? You know, America is baseball, basketball, football. It's diners, and barbecues, and Thanksgiving. What about the military culture and traditions that are built on courage, valor, honor, service to country? What about generations of Americans putting themselves in harm's way, serving something greater than themselves, defending their country, dying for it? What about cultural diversity and the fact that this country is built on the backs of people from all walks of life? Wow.
1:02:42Wow, man You may be able to say it as good, but not better I know, Guy messed up He's like, I did my Guy's video of the day too soon You don't get two, sorry, you had to pick That's a tough one though, Guy, I sympathize with you, brother
1:03:00American flag's in the chat right now Come on, I don't give orders, it's not a dictatorship, but I have to Come on, cue him up American culture? You mean like our forefathers freeing countries around the world, leaving their limbs and bodies overseas? Yeah, oh, look at that chat now. Oh, boy. While we gave them their land back from tyrants and Nazis and communists? You mean good old-fashioned Southern hospitality? Where you walk in any Southern restaurant and a couple people come out and they're like, right away, what can we do for you? Yes, ma 'am. The first, I'm from New York City. I got to tell you, I was kind of a rude kid growing up.
1:03:42Nobody talked. First time I went down south and heard everyone say, yes, ma 'am. No, sir. I was in love right away. Listen, for all you liberals, what about surfing culture in Hawaii or California? You know, that's America too. What, you don't like that either? What about the various bohemian caches in the village in New York? The village in New York is in America. That's culture too. Thank you. That all happened here. What about boating culture in Maine and in Florida? Sandbars on the weekend. Barbecues on Memorial Day. Did you forget all that? A baseball game.
1:04:24That's weird, man. That just hit me out of nowhere. I don't typically get choked up on my, that's really weird. I was just thinking about some of my dad, sorry. I really, like, I swear, like, usually I can anticipate, like, something's going to happen. that just hit me out of nowhere. I was thinking of, uh, I was thinking of when I was a kid, Yankees games with my dad. And the first time we got box seats, someone gave them to my grandfather. We never had box seats. We'd always sit at the top, you know, in the nosebleeds. I just got used to it. You know, the players look like little ants. And the first time we got box seats, I remember like, wow, these guys are real.
1:04:58Like they actually look like real people. You know, and I remember I brought my catcher's mitt. I wasn't even a catcher because I was afraid i was so close and i didn't know i was so close to the action before they had the nets that i was this is my logic when i was a kid i don't know i was eight or nine that if a ball was going to be hit my way and hit me in the face i bet i have a catcher's mitt which is really big with a lot of padding that's what was going through my head my brother was a catcher i took his mitt to the game i remember my i better stop
1:05:30i just remember my dad looking at me like aren't these seeds great
1:05:37and you want to like crap all over our culture, do me a favor, just get out. It's not a tyranny. Like you can stay and crap on the culture. That's your right. But we just, honestly, we just rather you go. We would just rather you leave. You don't belong here. We don't want you here. You clearly hate the place. You can stay. You have the right to stay, the right to scream and bitch and moan all you want. but we would just rather you leave. Nobody likes you. You know nothing about the greatest country on earth. You know nothing about the people in it. You know nothing about the culture. And it's really sad that someone from another country had to tell you about the greatness of America.
1:06:19Man, that was really weird. I've been doing this show 10 years, man. And that just crept up on me. I was thinking of my dad's face. Look at these seeds. Aren't they great? And then Dom Mattingly came up and I think he was like three for four that day. They were playing the Milwaukee Brewers. Chris Bozzio was on the mound for the Brewer. Remember Chris? I know Chris now. He sent me an autographed glove. Mattingly crushed it. I remember my father, I think he hit a double off the off the right field wall, pulled it. And I remember my father just losing it. He didn't drink. So he was like, whatever.
1:07:01He had like a Pepsi or whatever the hell. That's American culture, man. Greatest country on earth. Thanks for bearing with me. Sorry about that. A little emotional breakdown, but that really did creep up on me. I got an amazing, amazing, amazing guest. If you don't like this interview, I'm sorry, but the show's not for you because this one blew us all away. We started it early. It is worth your time. It's with Daniel DiMartino, who went viral on Fox for just humiliating these socialists. Coming up in just a minute. Don't miss that. First, we got to pick our comment of the day. Guy just popped out of the studio, said this was the toughest pick yet.
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1:10:33I'm really stoked to welcome to the show a guest you might already know if you're a P1 listener, because I played a huge chunk of his appearance on Fox News a couple weeks back where he just destroyed a socialist on the air, made them look quite silly. Daniel DiMartino from the Manhattan Institute. We beg to have him on that day. Really excited to have you here. Thanks for joining us. Thank you, Dan. You are really an effective messenger. And there is a there's a real paucity of that in our movement. Sometimes we have a really hard time sometimes getting the message out on a Wheaties box about freedom, liberty and free markets.
1:11:09You know, Daniel, you think it would be like a cool, sexy message for the young kids, right? The libertarian conservative MAGA movement, like get the government out of your life, live free. But somehow we're losing here. And one of the things I wanted to talk to you about is I think one of the messaging, gaps we have on our side is we're talking about this all wrong. And I've done it, too. We mentioned, you know, merit, meritocracy a lot like merit. That's what's always going to that's what free markets are about, a meritocracy. And in many cases, that's how you get rich and merit. But that's not always the case.
1:11:44I think we need to be more realistic with this younger generation. They're not stupid and say, you know what, sometimes you're correct. It's not always merit. Sometimes people inherit tons of money and squander it on drugs and alcohol and, you know, nights out and stuff. And, you know, sometimes people just do get lucky. But free markets do generally reward more than any other system. They reward hard work, ingenuity. It's very hard to fail if you're willing to put in the time and education, sweat equity and patience with investing your money and things like that. I think there's a messaging gap, but I think you kind of nailed it on the show.
1:12:20Well, I think that a big problem that we have in the messaging fight with socialists is that we already have socialism in many aspects of American life. And those are the aspects that we really do not like. Right. Like who has socialist health care in this country? The veterans, the people who least deserve socialist health care. Right. They get government hospitals and many of which have huge wait lines. The Indians in the in the reservations. Look at Native Native American reservation. life expectancy? How are the Indians living? How many of them are on drugs? How many of them are alcoholic?
1:12:55I mean, they're living, they can't even sell their property. We forced the Indians into socialist reservations. Look at the people in public housing, which is what I mentioned to this lady of the DSA. I mean, do you really want to live in that place? You don't. And so they're forced to stop fighting about theoretical socialism versus practical capitalism. And we have the practical socialism here in America. We don't even have to talk about my home country of Venezuela, right? Here in America, government housing, government healthcare, government whatever has failed. You know, Daniel, there's an article I cite often on the show.
1:13:34If you guys can find it, it'd be great. You know that McGurn article where it compares Martin County, Kentucky with Baltimore, Maryland? You know the one I'm talking about? We use it all the time. This piece was wrote, was written, excuse me, he wrote it. It's got to be almost eight to 10 years ago. And it was during the Baltimore riots about Freddie Gray. But I think it was McGurn who wrote it. He was making the point that you're making about wherever there's a large government footprint involving products or services, there's typically a failure to deliver because there's really no incentive to deliver an effective product.
1:14:08It's not your money you're spending. The Milton Friedman problem at spending money. It's taxpayer money. And you're not even buying yourself the product. You're buying it for other people. So you really don't even care about the quality. And McGurn's point was that when you look at Martin County, Kentucky, which at the time voted largely for Mitt Romney, the Republican, right? And largely white county. And then you look at Baltimore County, largely black, but voted for Barack Obama. You notice that regardless of who they vote for, there's a huge government social welfare system in place. And the problems, Daniel, are the exact same.
1:14:42Poverty, industrial-based washout, poor education. What's the X factor? The answer is it's not an X, it's a G. Government, it screws everything up because it has no incentive to do anything right. Yeah, it is all about incentives. And you mentioned merit before. Look, the truth about the human condition is that some people are born with more opportunities than others. Some people are born luckier than others. Some people are born without parents. Some people are born without arms, right? Like we cannot equalize those opportunities. The government simply cannot in a natural state of human beings without a government in nature.
1:15:20You know, some people get eaten by an animal. Other people don't, right? Luck will always be a part of human life. The question is which system tries to reward, as you say, hard work and not just hard work, right? Because you can work hard and not produce anything, but useful work to the rest of humanity. Who are the people who have become billionaires in the world? It's the people who've made the things most useful to all of us. It's the people who make the computer that we're using right now, the phones. It's the things that we give them our money or work to them because they did something useful to us.
1:15:55That's, you know, we may dislike them, right? I'm not saying that these are the best people in the world, that Elon Musk is a virtuous person. I actually don't think so. But I do think that those people are helping make our lives easier. And that's why they deserve what they got. I'm glad you brought that up because there's an ingenuity component to this too. Like some people do, matter of fact, not some, but a lot of people bust their ass their entire life. Their fingernails are dirty, sweat equity, blood equity. They've injured themselves on the job in construction. My gosh, the injury rate's probably through the roof.
1:16:30There are, you know, linemen out there working power lines that get electrocuted all the time. And this is super dangerous work. And yes, you're right. Some of them will not become billionaires. Matter of fact, most of them won't. So I think we make a mistake when we don't add that second part, that hard work has to be combined with things like patience and ingenuity. And one of my favorite articles I've ever read, this guy, Andre, I forget his last name, but it was an ex-post. And he said, listen, there's basically a couple, you know, a pocket of ways to make money. There's labor, capital, arbitraging opportunities, and basically insurance.
1:17:06you know taking risk off people's plate in exchange for money it's a great way you know you can argue about him but he's probably right and the thing is all of those require a little bit of ingenuity you know if you're going to make money in labor you want to find a market where that labor is rare neurosurgeons not everybody's going to have that capability maybe you're the hvac guy but you're the best one like you've done the best work in that neighborhood you show up on time, you beat everyone. You have to find that little in. Arbitrage. You know, maybe you found the niche market where you found a hole in the pricing system before everyone else.
1:17:42You know, insurance. Maybe you're just a risk taker and you're like, I'll take the risk off you in exchange for money. You think like Buffett made his money. And I think that's the part about free markets. That's the difficult messaging thing is that's a really non Wheaties box way of having to explain how wealth is generated. Whereas the commies and socialists, you experience your family in Venezuela and others, they just come out and go, no, no, we're just going to give you stuff and it's free and everyone's going to be equal. Like, well, that sounds a lot easier. And they did, right? You know, in Venezuela, they gave us free housing, free food, free electricity, free gasoline, right?
1:18:17They were not the green type of socialists. They wanted free gasoline. And I don't think they would give us free gasoline here. Free everything you can imagine, free cars. And despite Venezuela having the largest oil reserves in the planet, they could not pay for all of that. If socialism was going to work somewhere, right, it should work in the place where the government just had money growing up from the ground. And it was not enough. They printed money. We had huge inflation. We became all poorer. We had shortages of every food that you could imagine. We had blackouts. We had no water many days.
1:18:52You know, I had to carry buckets of water up the stairs for five floors. That was what life became for us. And so here, the problem is we have a generation of socialist politicians that are lying to the American people, telling them, oh, we just want to be like Denmark, right? But at the same time, their political leaders, the DSA, the Democratic Socialists of America, they're traveling to Venezuela and they're proposing the ideas of Venezuela, not of Denmark. And this is very obvious when you ask people like Mamdani, when you ask Daria Lisa, who's running for Congress in Harlem and she's going to win.
1:19:31When you ask Francesca Hong, who just lost her primary. What do you think of these systems? They never give you a straight answer. They cannot answer the question because I think that they actually support it. Daniel, this is actually was a component earlier in the show I brought up. It's we jokingly call it forgive the language here for a moment. I'm from Queens, so it's kind of like a but we call it like Dems pretending not to know shit. Like you just said it, like they'll never answer a question because the whole component of socialism, which they intentionally conflate with a welfare state, big government spending that they're not.
1:20:07We'll get to that in a second. But they're not the same thing. They do it intentionally. And the reason these people, you having experienced the brutality and economic depravity of socialism directly in your family, in your life, you're a SME, a subject matter expert on this topic. The reason they don't pen themselves in with objectively defined rules. Well, this is the tax rate we're gonna run on. I mean, you have some obligation to tell us, correct? You're running on higher tax. Well, what are they? I mean, I'd like to do the math on it. You wouldn't do that in a company. What's the price of the product?
1:20:38I don't know, we're gonna wing it. Like when you talk about things like Medicare for all, how are you going to pay for it? We'll figure it out. Like that's not a thing. They know this stuff is going to bankrupt us. The reason they don't pen themselves in with rules and numbers is because their rules and numbers require them to not treat you subjectively. In other words, they don't want to treat everybody equally. They want to take from someone who was successful and give to someone who, you know what, may deserve a helping hand, but may not. And they want to be able to steal, take away your rights.
1:21:09And if they pen themselves in with a rule, the rule applies to them, too. You know, it's so sad to me because I feel like in New York City and you're from Queens, I live next to the city and the city was totally deceived by Mamdani, right? Just because he came with a really big charisma in a similar way with Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, right? The importance of the story of Venezuela, more than I think other socialist countries, is not necessarily what socialism did to Venezuela, which is the same it has done to every other country. It's that it was elected into office democratically, unlike in every other socialist experiment, right?
1:21:47And that's the risk for us in America, because these socialists are never going to be able to enter power in the U.S. by force. They can only do so democratically. And that means that the American people need to be deceived, which is why they lie, which is why they don't answer the questions, which is why they don't tell you about the tax rate. It's not about the tax rate. I mean, if it was about the tax rate, Dan, they would want to set tax rates at the revenue maximizing level. Yes. Thank you. Repeat that point. Wait, wait. You need to repeat that point exactly. This is, folks, listen to what Daniel is saying here.
1:22:25There's this thing called the Laffer curve, not laughter, Laffer, L-A-F-F-E-R. And I just saw Art Laffer last week, by the way. Art Laffer is the... He drew it on a napkin. There is, if you tax people at 100%, you need to explain this to my audience. You take all their money. There's therefore no more taxes to take. If you tax them zero, there's no taxes. You have to find the rate where you don't disincentivize them to earn money, but you'll generate enough revenue to support your welfare state. The Dems don't care about that rate. They just want to steal everything. Explain that. And so obviously, if you have no taxes, the government doesn't raise any revenue.
1:23:03And if you just tax 100%, why would you work? So nobody works, and therefore, there's also no tax revenue. There is a point in between, which varies by type of tax rate, by location. We don't know exactly where the revenue maximizing rate is. But when you ask the socialists in America, you know, what should the tax rate be? They tell you about billionaires, we should tax them out of existence. They actually just want no revenue. The point of taxation for them is not raising government revenue, is punishing the people they hate. They want to tax you out of existence because they don't care if the poor become poorer.
1:23:40They just want the rich to become poorer. Daniel we're talking to Daniel DiMartino from the Manhattan Institute he's a fellow there you've lived this again you're you're a smee on this a subject matter expert in Venezuela Hugo Chavez was not dumb okay he was a tyrant he was a fraud he was a criminal he was frankly a scumbag he was a killer but he wasn't stupid he saw within a year or two as people were eating pigeons on the street in Venezuela. He had to know like, wow, this utopia we talked about is really a dystopia. The point you're making is exactly right. He didn't care. He wanted to punish successful people because that's all communists care about.
1:24:26Successful people are an obstacle to their collective power model. They get in the way because then everybody, you know, you can democratize success and they can't. Then the victim blamings, it doesn't work for them. If everybody's doing really well, it doesn't work for them. He didn't care about the death and destruction. Your point is correct. He only cared about inflicting pain. And that is what they want to do to us. And you mentioned, you know, he wasn't stupid. He knew that the people were getting poorer. There's actually a quote by Hugo Chavez saying, our goal is not to make the poor middle class because if they become middle class, they will stop voting for us.
1:25:03Now, what's curious about us in America is that it's not the poor who are voting for the socialist, Dan. It's actually the upper middle class. It's the people who have the most to lose from socialism. What are the people who have assets, who have wealth, who are voting for this? If you see the polling, I don't know if you follow like Vote Hub and things like that. They divide the precincts. They did it in Wisconsin and Michigan and New York City. And they see it's high education, low income people for their age. Meaning, I would say people who underperformed what they expected. Like, say you got a PhD and then now you're making$50 ,000 a year.
1:25:44So you think you're underperforming, which is true for having a PhD. And it's certainly going to be true if your PhD is in gender sciences. So I feel like our own education system, not just because it indoctrinates people, but also because it allows people to borrow money from the government to get useless degrees that then underperform. We have set up the young Americans for voting for socialists by giving them this system. Yeah, man, I'm really so glad I had you. And you're really eloquent in explaining this. And the fact that, again, you've experienced this with, you know, you and your family personally, the destruction is what, you know, folks, I'm going to tell you.
1:26:26Yeah, obviously I have a dog in the fight. I mean, I don't want my house confiscated by socialists either. I hope that doesn't happen. I think the probability of that is low, but not zero. But I'll be okay. I mean, I'm 51. I've lived a great life. I've got great kids, a great wife, a great audience. God's blessed me. I mean this. I swear to God, capital G, and I would not use his name in vain. I am really only doing this show to protect the next generation against this idea pollution of socialism that you've experienced. I'm just asking you to listen to someone like Daniel, who has the lived experience of the depravity of socialism, to protect yourself from this.
1:27:04I have no other dog in the fight. Really, I don't. One of the things I wanted to address with you, too, that you were particularly effective at messaging in that Fox News clip against the DSA member there. One of the really clever kind of sleight of hand shell game tricks they do, these socialists, is they conflate and they seamlessly move back and forth between socialism and the welfare state. They'll say, like, the fire department is socialism. That is not true. Socialism is the government control, the owning of the means of production, the health care space. The government owns everything. You work for a government that distributes out according to needs, according to Marx.
1:27:47OK, that's it. That's what socialism is. You can look it up. Try chat GPT. What they'll do is they'll pick out popular things like police and fire, which are not their simple tradeoffs we make. We agree to representatives that make laws like the laws are we're going to do the police enforce the law. And we finance that through tax dollars. That is not socialism. The government doesn't own the police truck, fire truck place. The government doesn't own the Ford RMP police car they have. That's not the case. I hate when they do that. It confuses a lot of these younger folks. You know, I think that the tell on their real agenda is that in Mamdani's case, instead of supporting, say, a tax credit for poor people or expanding food stamps in New York City to help poor people afford food, imagine that was a problem.
1:28:37That's actually not a problem, but we can leave that aside. He's not proposing an expansion of the welfare state for the poor. He wants the government to control the grocery store itself. He wants the government to control what you buy, where you buy, when you buy it, like in Venezuela. And by the way, it's less progressive because forget all the problems with government grocery stores. Imagine it worked. The rich people can buy in the government grocery store. If you just expanded food stamps, the rich won't get it. You're actually subsidizing the wealthy too. It's not a good target progressive policy because it's not about helping the poor.
1:29:10It's about controlling the poor. It's always been that way. And, you know, you mentioned they say socialism is the police or the firefighters. Look, the government has a role to play in what we call public goods, things that we cannot exclude others from services. Among that is law enforcement, it's firefighters, you know, it's public health things. It's the military. Of course, we need a military to protect us. But actually, the DSA in America is against the police. It's against the military. Because their actual agenda is to destroy the United States. They're tools of China. What would happen if we defunded the military like the DSA platform explicitly calls for?
1:29:45We're going to get invaded and we're going to become a vassal state of the Chinese and the Russians. Maybe that's what they want. I have no doubt. You know, Daniel, we're talking to Daniel DiMartino, Manhattan Institute fellow, really excellent commentator. Follow him on X and social media and elsewhere. where Daniel, you brought up an excellent component of the government-controlled grocery store example that I frankly had not brought up to my audience, and I'm glad you did. It does not discriminate between income categories. So you can have people in, say, Manhattan in the Upper West Side, and I'm a free marketer, whatever, I don't care how you made your money as long as you didn't break the law, who are making 10 to 20 million a year, who can walk into this government supermarket that is being subsidized by taxpayers.
1:30:32The only way to lower the price is either to ration it or to get taxpayers to cover the price arbitrage. That's it. Food costs what it costs. Farmers have an expense they have to make. They have to pay insurance, fertilizer, whatever. So these rich folks can basically walk in. And now this happens every time you institute a fake price control. Like here's the lid on groceries for the store. Like here's the lid on rent with rent control. The same thing happens every time. You get decreased supply because all kinds of people rush in to get the product below the real price, right? Rich people, poor people, middle-class people, government workers, everyone, right?
1:31:04You get a decreased supply. You get increased demand. Same reason everybody flushes in to buy cheese cheaper than they can in King Cullen or whatever. You get black markets as people just sell the stuff out the back door because they got it cheaper because the taxpayer bought it. And then you get quality problems as nobody starts making any money in the store and they can't make a profit. They just abandon it And you wind up getting quality problems. Their jobs don't depend on it. Who's going to fire the government cashier at the grocery store? Nobody's going to fire her. It's impossible to fire a government worker.
1:31:36Their jobs don't depend on you. You know, people think that the government, because it's democratically elected, it's accountable. Tell me who is going to vote against their incumbent rep in Congress because they didn't like USPS services. Nobody cares. Only the USPS workers, because their government depends, their job depends on it. And so they're actually very good lobbyists and our government wastes$9 billion a year. That's what happened in the last fiscal year on debt for the USPS. That is how much USPS loses money a year,$9 billion. All for the great privilege of getting junk mail in our mailbox, right?
1:32:12And this is unpopular because then you say, oh, you're against the postal services. No, I like UPS. I like FedEx. I think they provide better service and they don't need taxpayer dollars. I don't think that I should have to subsidize this job creation program, which is what it is. Same thing with Amtrak, same thing with the Tennessee Valley Authority. We have a lot of socialists, like say corporations, and they're not working very well already in America. Daniel, one of the things that irks me, if I had to triage my concerns about the messaging issue with socialism is, You know, 30, 40 years ago, if it wasn't on the nightly news with whatever Ted Koppel and Walter Cronkite, like the nation didn't see it.
1:32:56There was no Fox News, let's say 40, 50 years ago. There really was like you had to tune in at six or six thirty every night and get the national kind of message. If you wanted to find out about socialism, there was no Internet. If there wasn't an editorial in the Wall Street Journal, like you, I'm not faulting. People have live stuff. They don't get paid like us to dissect ideas. That's what we were in the idea services market. But that's just not the case anymore. You've got Grok, ChatGPT, OpenAI, Anthropic. You've got artificial brains, surrogate brains right now, where you can actually put in something like, hey, does rent control work?
1:33:33Tell me about the economics. And even like the most liberal, biased generator out there will tell you, we covered this story earlier in the show, like, no, rent control doesn't work. It actually leads in many cases to higher rents as you restrict the supply of available parts. Like you can look this stuff up now. You know, it's funny because even if you ask very left-wing economists, all economists still think price controls are bad, right? And even government grocery stores are bad. Even if you ask, say, Joseph Stiglitz, you know, who was one of my professors, very left-winger, like this is all widely accepted except by a few nut jobs.
1:34:11And then you mentioned Venezuela doing this for the young generation. I never voted for socialism in Venezuela. I was in my mother's womb when Hugo Chavez got elected. I was born a month before he was sworn into office in 1999. And so I bear the consequences of socialism that I never chose, that other people chose for me. And today in America, we're actually bearing the fruits of the hard work of past American generations, including the founding fathers, by the way, who gave us our freedom 250 years ago. And we didn't work for that. Our ancestors did that. Other people did that. Now we have to work so that the future generation doesn't do that.
1:34:55You know, one thing that really brought this point home for me was in 2024 in the last rigged election in Venezuela, because all the elections are rigged now there, this woman was protesting after the election was rigged, very old, maybe in her 70s. And she said, this is my fault because I voted for Chavez. I belong to a movement of trash. And now my grandchildren had to leave the country. And she said that herself. And I swear that gave me goosebumps. It made me want to hug her because she repented and I fully forgive her. But you know what, Dan? It doesn't matter that she repented because it's too late and we cannot let it be too late here.
1:35:39Yeah. You know what they say? You can vote your way into socialism and communism, but there is no voting your way. Once they get that power, there's no turning back. Daniel, that was really an understatement of your spectacular appearance. I'm confident The audience we're talking to right now is absolutely going to love it. Folks, we're going to clip this up and get it out there to help on the education piece. We're really just here to try to save you from what Daniel just said, being that woman on the street, realizing you voted for trash, death and destruction. We're not going to have it. Hey, you're welcome back any time.
1:36:11Obviously, that was really great. Thanks for spending some time with us today, Daniel. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much, Dan. You got it. Wow. What an really right, guys. what a well-informed, quick-witted, very educated in the real sense of the word, combining real-world experience with ideas and marrying them up, not just ideas. Like, let's try these ideas. Well, we did, where we grew up in Venezuela. We were like eating pigeons. Maybe that's a warning. Don't be that lady. I voted for trash. Don't vote for trash. Don't vote for trash. Vote for success and prosperity. Whew, man, that was a good one.
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