This Could Win Us The Midterms | Episode 189

26:02Yeah. The answer to that is yes. There's always going to be terrorism and we need to do the best we can to put it out, snuff it out. But at the same time, why put our guys on the line? So, you know, unless we have some phenomenal rationale that the American public wants to sign up for, let's get them out of there. Let's do that. Also, the president of the United States talked a little bit about the midterms yesterday. He said he's going to work really hard to make the midterms, a referendum on his presidency. Cut three. Here's the president with what I think is a very smart strategy. Watch this.

26:38The whole election. And, you know, it's interesting. When I'm not running, we don't do as well. And I'm going to try and get that changed for the midterms. We had a great election. We won every single swing state. We won the popular vote. We And there's a thing that they have now, districts, which is a big deal. I think in a way it's the most important stat from the standpoint of, you know, looking at numbers accurately. So out of thousands of districts, I won 2 ,750 versus 525. Think of that. 2 ,750 versus 525. It was great. But that's why the map, when you see a map of the election, it's all red other than two little narrow lines on the other side.

27:29OK, here's the thing. President Trump says that he wants to make the midterms a referendum on him. He said that normally going into the midterms, you know, you don't have a president of the United States on the ballot. So it really affects whether or not people actually show up to vote. And in President Trump's case, that's a huge deal because low propensity voters show up for Donald Trump, but they don't show up in other elections. This is why President Trump says next year, the midterms need to be a referendum on him. And normally the media would be the ones saying this. Let's make it a referendum on Trump.

28:03Democrats would be saying that. Let's make it a referendum on Trump because they think they can win on that basis. And God willing, that's how they operate. I hope they do. because President Trump has a big opportunity here to bring people out to the polls and make it clear that if they want the Trump agenda to continue and to grow, they'll vote for him. But one of the things he needs, one of the pieces of support that he needs, is he's got to get Congress to help him out. He's got to get Congress to help him out. And that includes getting rid of the disastrous filibuster and blue slip in the United States Senate.

28:35On that issue in a moment, we'll speak to a member of Congress. We'll get his assessment. But first, let me see. Can I play a clip here, Guy? Do you think that's possible? OK, good. He said, yes, I can. The president was asked about blue slips yesterday by our very own Reagan Reese. Should the Senate get rid of them? Are you going to bear down on them to make that happen? Cut one. Here's the president. Leader Thune doesn't seem like he wants to get rid of blue slips. Will there be consequences for the Senate? Well, I think they should get rid of blue slips because as a Republican president, I am unable to put anybody in office having to do with U.S.

29:14attorneys or having to do with judges. In other words, if you have one, not two, you don't need to just one. If you have one Democrat senator where we have a lot of them, you have one Democrat senator in a state. It is not possible to appoint because of blue slips a judge. It's not possible to appoint a U.S. attorney. You see that happening. And I think it's a disgrace. I think blue slips are a disgrace. They've long since, I mean, they're not, they should not be relevant anymore. This is a different world than it was 15, 20 years ago. You know, that was a gentleman and gentlewoman world. This is a little bit different, unfortunately.

29:56Yeah, we're in a fight for our lives. It's time to get rid of the blue slip. God bless the president for saying it. The vice president said it yesterday, too. More on that in a moment. Congressman Andy Biggs joins us. We'll talk to him about that very thing. But first, I want to thank American Financing for supporting this program. The Fed dropped rates for the fourth time. It just did. And if you're a homeowner, you should call American Financing today. You could be saving real money every month. High interest debt is crushing budgets all across the country. But homeowners who act now are using their equity to wipe it out.

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33:04And I happen to think, Congressman, that the way that we can see Republicans grow their margins in Congress, which is really critical to get the Trump agenda through, is if you actually do something worth voting for. And among those things, I know you're writing this week in a new op ed on this subject. The United States Senate has some big things they've got to knock out. And I think that they definitely include getting rid of the filibuster and getting rid of the blue slip. We don't have time to waste. What do you think, Congressman? I think you're exactly right. The blue slip and the current cloture rule, both they don't require virtually any work on the part of the minority to basically kill the agenda of the majority.

33:46And Donald Trump was given a mandate, in my opinion, by the American people. He had the biggest victory in a long, long time. He took all the battleground states. And the House has done okay, not great, but okay at getting a lot of his agenda through. Then it gets to the Senate and it just gets stuck there. Or else the Senate leadership on the Republican side, they actually capitulate to demands made by the minority because that's the way the cloture and the veto process works. And Vince, that will not get the agenda through. And if you can't get your agenda through, quite frankly, low propensity voters who don't pay much attention anyway, and even people who regularly get out there say, why should I vote for the majority, the Republicans again, when they can't get the job done?

34:38And we can't get the job done because of arcane Byzantine anachronistic Senate rules. And that's those two rules, the cloture and the the blue slip are killing us. So I get that there are still some Republicans who think that there's like some sort of good faith argument for holding on to some of this. Maybe those. But I think those are few and far between. What I'm really bugged by, Congressman, is it feels like that there are Republicans in D.C. in Congress who are perfectly comfortable with sabotaging the president's agenda. Like so, for instance, like three things jump to mind immediately.

35:14One of them is the filibuster gets maintained, the silent filibuster, the cloture vote that you just referred to in the Senate. And they won't kick it down in order to get the Trump agenda through, despite the fact that they're all aware Democrats intend to do it anyway. The second they get power, they won't get rid of the blue slip, which allows Adam Schiff to have vetoes over who gets to be U.S. attorney in California, which is crazy. And the other thing is they don't go into recess. So the president's got a recess power, a recess appointment power. And the House and the Senate, the leadership of both the House and the Senate have made a decision.

35:48No, we're not going to go into an authentic recess, which would allow the president to get his people in place. And I get it. They keep saying, like, look, we're approving tons of people. And the Senate is approving. They're confirming people. That's that's definitely happening. But the people that matter, the prosecutors and the judges right now, they're being blockaded by this corruption, Congressman. It drives people crazy. Yeah, it really does. And it actually, this is the problem with it too, Vince. It gives the minority the power over the majority. So our constitution was designed for obviously a religious and moral people, but it's also designed for the majority to get its will.

36:26And that's why voters just say, well, why bother? Why bother? And there's so much that's missaid about this stuff. For instance, if you eliminate the cloture rule, which takes down to simple majority, shut down a filibuster. What that does is everybody's you still keep the filibuster. It's a speaking filibuster. It's always been there. But now they don't have to go speak. They just have to say, well, we're not going to vote to to close up filibuster. So they can stay in their office either with a blue slip or the cloture and kill it. And if you get rid of it and get it down to 51 votes to close down the filibuster, then if you want to stop the majority's plan, you have to rise up off your behind, get out of your office and go down and speak on the floor and actually put some physical strength in there.

37:14And you know what happens? If you're convincing enough, then the bill gets changed. If not, then you can get your agenda through. And quite frankly, this is why we have $38 trillion in national debt. It's why we have a failure to basically launch this agenda of President Trump. It's because of those rules and this notion that, oh, we're doing this to save the institution. I get it. They say that we're institutionalists. You're not saving the institution. You are creating and fomenting, not creating, but you are fomenting the uniparty control over Washington, D.C. And that's why lobbyist bureaucrats, the media, they all are fine with keeping it exactly the way it is, because that's what it is.

38:06OK, so here's here's something I'm sensing from some Republicans in the Senate, unfortunately, including people like Chuck Grassley. I just played a clip from him the other day. Chuck Grassley has been great on whistleblowers and transparency. That's all wonderful. But he said earlier this year that most of the American public doesn't even really know anything about the blue slip. And he's a little surprised people are talking about it. And then he said, in reality, it protects all of these states where the senators get to have this veto authority over U.S. attorneys. It's just a very it's just a very condescending assessment.

38:39One that's basically like I you know, we're a little annoyed that the American public found out the way the Senate operates. Is is that is that really kind of one of the ways that people think in the Senate? They're annoyed that we're aware of how they're selling us out? Yeah. Look, they breathe a different air than the rest of the world breathes. Come on, you know that. They view themselves as, all of them wake up and look in the mirror in the morning and say, this is the future president of the United States. And so they kind of have that attitude. But the problem with it is, of course, that you allow people who, you know, like in my state, you got two Democrat senators, but the vast majority of the state's Republican.

39:26And we are sitting there with interim attorneys general constantly in Arizona for literally years at a time. And this is a huge problem because it kills the consistency of public trust in public administration of the U.S. Attorney's Office for Arizona. So it's a problem. But yeah, there is rarefied air over there in the Senate. That's for sure. Well, it sure seems like it. So what do you think the White House should do about this? You know, the president has brought this up a bunch. He keeps on indicating that he's annoyed by it. I feel like he's not going the distance. He's not he's not really going at John Thune.

40:08He still considers him a great man. He's very complimentary of him. But he keeps saying, guys, you got to get rid of the blue slip. Guys, you got rid of the guy, get it. Got to get rid of the blue slip. At what point, Congressman, do we move from simply friendly cajoling to saying this is existential to our country? Well, it needs to happen like yesterday. And the reason is because for any of this stuff to have an impact on the midterm election, and it is an existential threat, by the way, for two reasons. But if President Trump really wants to get this done, he's going to have to go on the bully pulpit super hard like right now, Vince, because here's the two ways it's existential.

40:51Number one, you don't get the agenda going. And if you don't get the agenda going, then you move to the second existential threat, and that is you lose the midterm. And quite frankly, if you lose the midterm, President Trump's last two years are over because the Democrats have already got their impeachment articles drafted. They're ready to go, and they believe that they're going to get the majority. That's how critical it is that the Senate act. And then the other aspect coming is you know that the Democrats, they've already said they're going to eliminate the cloture rule next time they get the majority of the Senate.

41:32And if that happens, guess what? All of the policies change. You get Puerto Rico. You get Washington, D.C. as states. You get a U.S. Supreme Court that's packed and logged up with more than nine members. You change the very nature of the trajectory of this nation. Do you get the feeling that there are Republicans, colleagues of yours in either the House or Senate, who prefer to be in the minority, who like not having the responsibility of the majority where you can actually affect change for the country, that you can be held accountable? Like if you're in the minority, you get to be called congressman or senator and then you don't get to do anything.

42:10You have excuses for, well, we just get to complain. Are there people who like that? I got to believe that there are. Some people are very comfortable. I was chair of the Freedom Caucus when we were in the minority before, and we pushed back everything. And we were asking for roll call votes on virtually everything we possibly could to slow them down, do everything we could to slow down their agenda. And I actually had Republicans come to me and tell me how irresponsible they thought that was. And so that's a crying shame to me because I believe that we shouldn't be in the minority. I believe that America is still a majority center right nation.

42:50And that means that you have to do everything you can to preserve that center right status, which means you have to keep the Republican majority in the House and the Senate and lay the groundwork for 2028. Because if you screw up 2026, guess what else is screwed up? The election of 2028, which is where a new president will be considered. You know, I've spent recent weeks and certainly all this year, I'm very grateful for a lot that the Trump administration has achieved. I mean, the border is secure at levels that I didn't even expect, and I definitely voted for. I'm super happy about that. They are deporting a lot of people.

43:21We're nearing the vicinity of three million people either self-deported or physically deported from our country. Those are great and important numbers. The president is dealing with an economic hangover of the Biden era that is still having real impacts on the American people that I think that they need to get really serious about. I wonder, in addition to the accountability mission that you and I have been talking about, what other priorities do you think Congress needs to take up immediately in order to make a strong case for the midterms? Well, you're going to have to do at least a couple of things.

43:53Number one is the health care issue, because and I'm not suggesting that you have to extend the subsidies, but you have to provide an alternative so that the vast majority of Americans have their premiums go down, they have better access to health care. And you can do that by just creating a free market system that's separate and apart from Obamacare. So you have to turn down a lot of Obamacare regulations, but we have legislation to do it. I introduced legislation last week on it. I think we're going to be voting this week on a bill that's going to largely, I shouldn't say largely, it's going to make a difference.

44:35It will actually reduce premiums by about 12%, save$30 billion over 10 years. Now, that's just little bitty parts of what needs to happen, but that's a first step in the right direction. The second thing you have to do is you have to give a nod to creating affordability conditions. And that means that you have to get it's all based on energy, quite frankly. If you can lower the energy costs, all of a sudden everything else comes down by about 30 to 40 percent. That happens. Everything seems and is more affordable. And those two things alone will actually change whether Republicans win the midterms or lose the midterms.

45:16It rests on those things right there. You know, the health care reform thing is a huge deal. I mean, just the the the core point about Obamacare, Obamacare made health care prohibitively expensive. It's not the Affordable Care Act. It's the totally unaffordable act. It's not even care. It's just a disaster. And so the big debate that that you all in Congress have been having is how big is the cover up going to be going forward? That's really fundamentally what the debate is. It's like, oh, these subsidies subsidize what? What do we need to subsidize? Oh, the extraordinarily high cost of health care.

45:47We're going to steal from the taxpayers in order to bring the price down and pretend like it's super cheap. It's not. It's a cover up orchestrated at my expense. Thanks a lot. So fixing that does seem like a critical issue. The thing I fear, Congressman, is that we're going to reach the level that we often reach with Republicans right when it's near crossing the finish line, that the Republicans will chicken out and not actually repeal this thing in order to replace it with something that gets the government out of it and makes it more affordable and more efficient. I'm always fearful of that, Vince.

46:20So that's why you're seeing, in my opinion, you're seeing this thing's kind of being double tracked right now. the people who want to continue the subsidies. By the way, think of it this way. The socialism of this health care, Obamacare, it's not working out. So we're going to actually have to put another layer of socialism on top of that socialism to see if we can make it work better. That's really what you got going on. And so, but you got people over there, and that's a separate track. The other track that we're trying to do is we're trying to build a track that the 335 million Americans can get out and actually have choices for reasonably priced health care.

47:00And basically, that means that you have to create a marketplace of insurance. And because the insurance companies right now, there's so much fraud and deceit that goes on, where people, they're literally, Vince, probably 15 million people at least on the subsidy side that don't even know that they're enrolled in a policy, an Obamacare policy, and the government, and they'll never know it because they won't get a bill because the government sends that money directly to the insurance companies. These are the types of things that have got to be fixed. If they're not fixed, the prices will remain high.

47:40Fraud will remain rampant, and we'll lose that race. We'll lose the narrative. Do you like President Trump's plan? President Trump's plan, as I understand it, It is stop sending all this money to the insurance companies. Instead, give it to Americans in the form of health savings accounts so they can they'll just they'll get that money that's currently being directed directly into the coffers of the insurance companies. And instead, Americans can spend on health care expenses. Do you like this plan? I like it better than the current status quo. But what I would like better is if you if you created a real personalized health account that allowed you, for instance, if you're a single guy, you get twenty thousand bucks tax deductible.

48:21If you're a married couple, you get$50 ,000 tax deductible plus$20 ,000 for every kid. And you go right into that savings account. You and I could donate, if we saw somebody that needed some help, we could donate money tax deductible in that account. And that way the government would save the money that they're paying to the insurance company and people would be able to get the same benefit that employers get. So an employer gets to write off that tax for the health care premium. Why not let the individual do the same? And that would actually lower premiums and help create the market because you have to have some additional insurance products out there as well.

49:00Yes, big time. All right, Congressman Andy Biggs, thank you as always. Appreciate all of our sincere conversations through the years. They're always great. Appreciate you again today. Merry Christmas, sir. Merry Christmas, Vince. Thank you. There's Congressman Andy Biggs. Thank you for his time today. and you know there's a big thing in in in politics in in the house and the senate you're normally uh each each body uh the members are like oh i don't talk about the affairs of the other body and then that that's how they tap out of like house members will often tap out of talking about the way the senate conducts his business congressman biggs by by saying like yeah they should get rid of the filibuster in the blue slip that's unusual that's that's how crazy things are now that's unusual for a house member to do that and god bless them for doing it because he's totally right and you know just just say what's true just say what's true we have a country worth saving so president Trump wants to get rid of the blue slips J.D.

49:49Vance wants to get rid of the blue slips there's a congressman big saying get rid of them also senator mark wayne mullen up until recently apparently was on board with keeping the filibuster in his own body and now he's he's come to his senses and he realizes wait a second this silent filibuster thing it's wrecking our country and we don't have any time left. Cut to, here's Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. Watch. There was a conversation that's taken place saying, well, maybe we don't do all the filibusters, but we just do it when it comes to appropriations. Well, that's where the policy is made through appropriations anyways.

50:24I think that's a sound policy for us to have a serious conversation about because we only have three years here and the president is laser focused on setting a foundation for the golden age to be rushing in. We know they're not interested in it, So we need to do it by ourselves. And so I my position on the filibuster has changed. My position on the filibuster has changed. Well, that's what I call progress. But look, the only way we're going to get more progress is if you keep browbeating your Republican senator to change everything. There's no time to waste. And a lot of this. And as I mentioned with the congressman, a lot of this comes down to there are people in Congress who are very content with not changing anything.

51:09Not very content with not changing anything, especially things that they think that you don't know anything about. Like who knows about the silent filibuster? Who knows about that? Who knows about the blue slip? Well, the reality is because we have to figure out what the hell is wrong with our country. A lot more of us are aware of this now than ever before. And so, yes, contact your senator and let them know, you know, and that now's the time. They've got to save their country and they got to get rid of this garbage. So there's some of it. We'll keep knocking on the doors here trying to fix things.

51:42You know, look, if the left gets control again, you understand what they're going to do with it. You understand this. If they get control, it doesn't matter if Republicans get rid of the filibuster now or not. Democrats will if they get control of the Senate. And if they can control both houses, what's the plan? The plan is to make Puerto Rico a state and get two Democrat senators. The plan is to make Washington, D.C. a state and get two Democrat senators. There's some chatter about making Guam a state, a U.S. territory, making Guam a state and getting two Democrat senators. Their plan is to pad their numbers.

52:15Well, where else will they pad numbers? They want to pack the United States Supreme Court. They want to add justices to the court to permanently tear up what you and I know as the United States Constitution. That's their plan. Ladies and gentlemen, the time is of the essence. We don't have any opportunity here. We have to act now. And if they can control the House, they want to impeach Trump again. Now, Nancy Pelosi, who is retiring, is aware that running as a Democrat at this moment leading up to the midterms and admitting you want to impeach Trump. The voters don't love that. They don't love it.

52:54So she doesn't want to say that this is their plan. It definitely is their plan. But here's Nancy Pelosi doing an interview yesterday. Cut for pretending Democrats don't want to impeach Trump again. Well, of course, it's all I fantasize about. watch. That's not an incidental thing you say, well, we're going to do that. No, there has to be cause. There has to be reason. We had review. This was a very serious historic thing. And our founders knew that there could be a rogue president. And that's why they put impeachment in the constitution. They didn't know there'd be a rogue president at the same time, a rogue Senate that didn't have the courage to do the right thing.

53:34That's what's bipartisan in the Senate but it wasn't enough you know I love I love how she pretends that that clip has been going around the internet was like Nancy Pelosi admits that President Trump hasn't done anything impeachable and yeah you could say that but that's not the point of that cut the point of that clip is her pretending like they don't have this aspiration to get rid of Trump to impeach him yet again that's right that's her playing a game of pretend because everything with her is fundamentally deceit in the service of her long-term power. Deceit in the service of by any means necessary power for Democrats.

54:13So any word coming out of her mouth, even if it was, if she came out and she was complimenting Trump today, I would say she's lying. There's a reason for this. There's a purpose behind this. And that's what she's doing again. She's trying to downplay the left's desire for impeachment. And this is why you had Democrats. There were reports that they were upset with Sri Tendihar, that guy with the hilarious Indian accent who keeps trying to impeach Donald Trump and everybody around him. They're upset with him because he's making that play too early. He's trying to kick the field goal and they're not at the end of the field yet.

54:45So they're trying to stop him from doing that. He's stupid. There's not time for a turnover. We can't do that yet. They're trying to do the same thing to people like Al Green. They're constantly trying to tamp this down. Like, don't let people know we're crazy. Don't let people know that we're trying to run this guy out of office. pretend like we care about what's the word again affordability let's pretend like we care about that for now and by the time we get across the finish line after the midterms then it's weapons free we can do whatever we want after that that's their actual plan so there's nancy pelosi pretending like they don't want to do it of course they do of course they do and as she goes out um one more thing for you.

55:24Pelosi is upset that you prevented her. You should you should literally pat yourself on the back for this if you can. Nancy Pelosi is whining that you prevented her from disarming you. Listen to this cut 11. Here's Nancy Pelosi complaining about the great regret of her career. My disappointment, I always have it and I'll never give up on it, is guns, a four would be dying in a classroom, that families, just the saddest thing. But it's about two things. That politicians should think that their political survival is more important than the survival of children and families in our country. And that the gun industry, I'm not talking about lobbyists here, I'm talking about the gun industry with endless big money just deciding that they are going to have it their way at the cost of lives in our country so they can make a profit.

56:30And it's a global issue too. I mean, you understand that guns are very, a border issue as well. They don't care. They just care about making money. So it's money and power and kids pay the price and families pay the price. What a deceitful old hag. She's unreal. And of course, caring about kids is very rich coming from her. She has worked feverishly to advance the abortion of a million babies a year in our country while simultaneously importing a million foreign nationals into our country every year legally in addition to the many millions that she and her party have brought in illegally into our country.

57:11The last people they care about are protecting children. They imported children across our border who were immediately sold into both labor and sex slavery in the United States. Tens of thousands went missing. The Trump administration is recovering them. Some 60 ,000 or so. They have recovered these kids. That's what they're doing right now, cleaning up the evil mess that Nancy Pelosi and her fellow Democrats have created. So spare us the lectures. Oh, and by the way, we need guns to protect our children, she pretends like. getting rid of law-abiding citizens' guns is going to somehow protect us?

57:48No, it's not. It's not going to protect my family, which is why you're not taking my gun. As always, great to have you with us here on this edition of Vince. I'll be back with you tomorrow. Christmas barrels forward. It's going to be here soon. Make sure to subscribe, like, track the show. You know, obviously always get in on the Rumble chat. If you want to watch us live, rumble.com slash Vince. We do the show live 10 a.m. Eastern each day. You can also join me on the big national radio show, TheVinceShow.com. Your local listings, that's where you can get them. Or join us on Rumble, Rumble.com slash Vince.

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