This Is Going To End Badly (Ep. 2557)

28:15If you don't lower your voice, I am going to put handcuffs on you and I'm going to take you to a Baker Act facility. Lower your voice. Try it. Are you threatening me? Can we get another unit to deal with Jay Lee here? He is having a breakdown. Shay! Shay! Just say it on my throat now! What'd you say? He's got to compress that in my ear. I think I lost my hearing this one. No, please! You're about to get sprayed. No, just let me alone! Get down on the ground right now. Leave me alone! I can come in here. Leave me alone, please! Okay, are you going to calm down? I want to be alone for you. No, it's too late now.

28:54He's going to be taken away. Shay! Oh my gosh. It's taken. I just want to get away from him. Someone call Harry Sisson. She! She! She! She! Stop misting me! Just say she!

29:21Please step in. Watch your head. Why are these people so angry? why are these people so hang you know last night i have um the paramount app and the app for some reason wasn't working on my samsung tv so i had been you guys watch landman i was into season three and the app broke like six months ago or so well right before i came back on here and i just kind of gave up not because i don't like the show but the app just wasn't working and i just forget Muttley's are going crazy in the chat. I forgot. So we ran out of shows to watch, my wife and I. So last night she's like, hey, give the Paramount app a shot.

30:02I promise this is going somewhere. And Landman worked. So we started watching it. And I just saw the episode, you know the one I'm talking about, where Billy Bob Dorton's, yes, the roommate in college. And it's the same thing. The roommate is trans. It's like, this is my safe space. The fact that that aired on TV, like Taylor Sheridan's balls of steel, put that out there. But why are they so angry? I hate asking questions I don't have the answer to. In this case, I didn't. I have the answer. I need to jump ahead a little bit and hold AOC for a second. Don Lemon, the Nazi comparison. This is why.

30:38It's not hard to figure out. Why are these people so angry? The answer is they've been fed a bunch of slop down their throats like Ipacaxia. Yep, they don't throw up. It's like they enjoy it. Like, man, you're fighting the Nazis, the fascists, the bad guys, the totalitarians. You know, Donald Trump's a racist, bigot, fascist, Nazi. When you're told that every single day, folks, it's not hard to understand. While people who do no homework on any of those statements actually believe this and want to burn down 26 fed. and start screaming, what the, what's that? That is a totally irrational response from what appears to be an adult.

31:21Well, you wouldn't be rational either if you thought you were living amongst Nazi racist fascists. Here's a clip from the Don Lemon Show. Exactly. They just ran a guy in Maine who had an actual Nazi tattoo. You would think they would be like, hey, we got a problem. We got to clean this up. Nope. This is pure projection right here. Check this out. I think that once Donald Trump is gone, it's the end of MAGA. I don't know if it's the end of that sort of attitude. I mean, the MAGA is the closest thing to the modern version of a Nazi party. This is America's version. It's the closest thing without the Holocaust and all that stuff.

31:55That sort of mindset. That's what MAGA is because most intelligent people or logical people, when they get new information and if that information is negative or not factual, then they change their minds with, oh, well, I wish I had known better and now that I have this information then I can readjust. No matter how many facts and how much information you give them about this presidency, about the policies, they don't change their minds because they're really not voting for the price of eggs. They're voting for white supremacy. They're voting for power. They're voting to have a preeminent voice.

32:38They're afraid They've been co-opted by many people in the Republican Party and Donald Trump to think that their failures are due to something else. The other, the black person, the woman, the Latino, the immigrant, the migrant. That person is taking your job. That person is the reason that you don't have the financial or career success that you think that you should have. It's because of them. We want to take our country back. That's what MAGA is. holy moses you believe the inversion of logic folks did you catch what he said at the end it's the most important part the nazi shit we've all heard before i don't want to hear it ever again from a leftist we have done yeoman's work cleaning up imposters in our movement the last six months i've dedicated my life to it it's not an easy conversation to have because some people fake it really well so you can cut that bullshit right out you just ran nazi tattoo guy and he won your primary the only reason you got rid of him is because his polling was down did you catch at the end he's like the right these maga people they do the other ring like your financial failures are the cause of others and they create victims are you again brother put the crack pipe down that is the founding ideology of modern progressive liberalism is victim victim ideology the trans guy i don't have any right what rights you're in a college in the middle of the most one of the most prosperous states in the union florida what are you talking about we played that video a couple weeks ago where those ladies interview the woman she's like i'm black and i'm gay and i have no rights they're like what rights don't you have you couldn't name one couldn't name one that is the founding ideology of the modern progressive liberal movement is you're a victim of someone and you see how they totally inverted What if, we're the exact opposite of that.

34:51We're going to talk to Dr. Bill coming up in a little bit about how this was a revolutionary idea we were founded on. The idea that all men are created equal with inalienable rights. This was a revolutionary, they don't believe in any of that. Folks, and they're brand ambassadors in this influencer era. right now you have these brand ambassadors where people who have no life skills whatsoever i'm not gonna because i'm a capitalist and if you know jano bag of donuts wants to go out on instagram and become famous for being jano bag of donuts i really i'm not good for you if that's what the market demands go for it but a lot of companies have latched on to this influencer culture where are like, hey, I have this handbag, whatever, Gucci or whatever it may be.

35:47We'll pay you to be a brand ambassador. Like for what? I don't understand like how that appeals to people. What do I care if, you know, Janie Bag of Donuts is good looking on Instagram, wears a bag. Like who gives a shit? But it works. The brand ambassadors for the left are the exact same. They have no life skills, no critical thinking skills at all. And suckers on the left who all have the green hair and all this stuff, they fall for this stuff. Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. The very same left, like the Don Lemons and others, that'll criticize some guy wearing a sombrero on Cinco de Mayo for cultural appropriation.

36:31They'll lose their minds. I can't believe you culturally. What a racist. the very same zeros and dipshits that'll do that have no problem with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. I don't know if you caught this yesterday. On her now, what, 15th different accent? Now she's from the South. And here's the kicker. You guys, you missed this yesterday. If you saw this on cable news, wait, let's see who in the chat catch it. Me and Justin both missed it until we didn't. I played this clip three, four times at the end. We were like, wait, there's something in this that's especially appealing to the people who dance and act and bullshit people for a living listen to AOC the queen of the bullshitters who's now faking her again 15th or 20th accent she's southern now you're gonna see her at the iron bowl this year or something I think it's in Tuscaloosa check this out we cannot afford to leave Tennessee behind we cannot afford to leave Kentucky behind, Alabama behind, Mississippi behind, Georgia behind, South Carolina behind.

37:40I'm sorry. I'm watching the chat to see who caught it. No. What is it? What is it? What's someone's got to catch this. We got we have 50 ,000 people here. Someone catch it. I can only give it a no, I can't believe it. We just caught it at the end. All right. I'll give it to you. That's what I'm here for. Who is she campaigning for? Justin, you want to help him out? Yes! Yes! Justin J. Pearson. Dancing guy. I swear I missed it. So I'm with you guys. You've only seen it once. I had to see it two or three times. Because you get so distracted by the horrendous rendition of a Southern accent. It's not even good.

38:25It's not even good. I always tell you I love the South, but I never fake the funk. How many times, that's with an end. How many times have I said to you all, I ask respectfully to my Southern brothers and sisters because I love you so much, please take me in as your adopted son. I don't fake a Southern accent, I'm a Yankee. She's out there campaigning for dancing guy, Justin J. Pearson. Two of them, this guy. While doing the fake Southern accent. folks you live in Tennessee please don't tell me you're getting played by this I know you're not I love Tennessee been there many times there is no way Morgan Wallen help us out there is no way write a song about this or something there is no way you're being taken by this bullshit act when we saw it I'm like this can't be is this the dancing guy I had to look it up twice just to be sure Justin J.

39:23Pearson

39:27Folks, why? Given that stupid we know is a choice, correct? With the advent and explosion of AI, I can't say this enough. If you're an 85 IQ person, okay, and you work hard, God loves you like anyone else. You've got other gifts. Not everything is your intelligence quotient. but whereas you can't overcome a strength deficit i mean you can use robotics and tools however if you're you know if you're out you're kind of stuck you can overcome an intelligence deficit you're given a surrogate brain with the explosion in ai in other words what i'm getting at is there is no reason to be stupid if you want to go farm with a with a hoe and not mechanical you're going to take 2 ,000 times as long as a farmer with technology tools.

40:18You have to go spend money. A lot of these open source models are just free. There's no excuse to be stupid anymore. You can go and look this stuff up. But when you have brand ambassadors and influencers, not leaders like AOC and dancing guy, Justin Pearson, and you choose them, you've chosen the road of stupid. And that's how you get things like this. Nate Friedman went out and did a man on the street interview. And he asked this socialist DSA guy, like, hey man, give us your elevator pitch for socialism. You know, you got two floors to go. Someone's stuck in the elevator with you. It's a business term.

40:55And you got to sell me in a minute or two between floors. Give me your pitch for socialism. This may be the single dumbest explanation for socialism. The guy doesn't even know or is faking not knowing that socialism and socializing are not the same thing. Bro, you saw it, right? Justin's laughing. He thinks it's the same word. Stupid is a choice. You don't have to be stupid. You don't have to follow influencers and brand ambassadors like AOC and Dancing Guy. You can do your own homework. You think I'm making this up? Watch this yourself. More than half of young Americans now prefer socialism over capitalism.

41:36So if you can look into the camera and give a 30-second elevator pitch on why socialism is better than capitalism. community are you tired of sitting alone and being by yourself and having no one to talk to be a socialist it's all about community it's about literally sitting down and having coffee with random stranger and talking to them talking about the game hell i have hugged more strangers in this past summer because of the next game because of the world cup because socialism works it ain't a scary word it ain't me taking your house it's about me making sure your house remains in your hands and some million doesn't take it from you that's it that's not exactly what socialism is, but you can understand why it sounds attractive.

42:14The pitch is simple. I'm going to stop your rent from going up. I'm going to protect you from the greedy landlords, and I'm going to keep you in your home. Yet it's under the socialist Mamdani where the median rent in New York City just hit an all-time high of nearly$5 ,300 a month. This is how it happens. First, Mamdani freezes the rent for nearly a million apartments. That means the landlord is legally blocked from raising prices. even if there's repairs or higher taxes. So some landlords can't afford to maintain the apartment. Then comes the final step. The government takes control and they call it social housing.

42:51But it just means the state uses the crisis it helped create as the excuse to take private property away from the owner. The most important thing is that in his pitch, he doesn't need any facts about socialism being better, which comes in handy because it's never worked. Yes! Yes! Yes, the gifts of socialism. Of course, we use that term laughingly. One of them is the stupid choice, the stupid exit on the highway. This guy can just look it up, but he doesn't because he follows influencer brand ambassadors like AOC and Momdami who go out there and say things like buy this bag. And inside the bag is a pile of dog shit and people buy it anywhere.

43:34Like ignore the smell. You can just look it up. Mom Donnie, we need more rent control. Just put in a freaking surrogate brain AI. Has this actually worked anywhere? If a person who owns property can't get a return on the property, why would he put money into the property? Only idiots will explain that away by, well, we get to socialize and hang out at like a Knicks game. That's socialism. And I love how he uses the word literally, the idiot explaining socialism, when he's really explaining socializing. He's like, it literally means I can hang out with people. Yeah, you will. I take that back. He's correct.

44:13Justin's like, you just refuted your own point. No, I didn't. You do get to hang out with people. In a gulag, you go get hung. You get, you're strung up behind your back. They like cut your fingers off and stuff like that. You get to hang out with people. It's just not at the Knicks game. It's not at the Knicks game. And the game ain't fun. It's like, how many digits can we cut off before he bleeds to death? It's like, why did he really? One of the greatest gifts of socialism is the stupid ramp off the highway. It's like the mask. Justin's like, oh, no, no. I promise I'm going to get there. The mask was great for everyone.

44:44It showed you who the morons were. The problem with socialism is they hide among us like ninjas. It's like until you actually put a mic in front of them, you don't know who the idiots are. You thought I was going there, didn't you? I know. Some of you are laughing to P1s. You know me with the mask. The mask was the greatest gift to anyone. It was. It was. it showed you instantly who the stupid people are right when we were like after the initial panic we're off i saw the mask i knew to cross the street i didn't want to be infected if they had a stupid virus like some prion i didn't want it so i instantly crossed the street again with a mask on where he justin saw a woman in a convertible with a mask on man i don't know how she breathed how'd she get air in that mask he's got her sealed off

45:32folks people like AOC influencer politicians brand managers and brand ambassador politicians who were ambassadors for the brand of socialism and tyranny a lot of them are doing this to you intentionally I'm not sure Justin Pearson dancing guy is he doesn't seem too bright based on some of his arguments AOC either but Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are not stupid this is not a compliment, folks, by the way. Don't take it that way. The people who are brand ambassadors for communism, socialism, and tyranny fall in two camps, deliberately misleading people through propaganda. And second, the stupid ones who just can't do any homework or don't want to because they're just lazy and stupid.

46:18AOC is probably in the latter camp. But there is a very serious, Listen to me, please. Like, missile lock in. This is really critical. There are things I can say and things I can't say. It's fairly obvious. But one thing I'm comfortable saying now, especially after President Trump's speech on Thursday night, which everyone should go back and watch in full, don't buy the left-wing interpretation of the speech. Watch it yourself. And I'm absolutely comfortable putting this out there. There is a massive repository of foreign funds going in now to the United States to influence you through social media and elsewhere.

46:59And the influence campaign is to get you to hate this country and its institutions. The president's not kidding. I've seen it. I've lived it. It is for real. There are a number of operations going on right now. I'm gonna hear from nothing and say, you don't know squat. I heard some obese comedian yesterday, Like, again, the typical, like, moron D-bag who doesn't know anything about it. You have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. It's a very organized effort to try and stop some of this. You're starting to hear about it more now. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to drag it. Here's a clip yesterday from Fox.

47:38It's not just Russia and China. This is also coming from communist proxy countries as well, communist institutions in Cuba as well. Check this out. I think ICAP, the People's Forum, Democratic Socialists of America, National Lawyers Guild, National Network on Cuba. It's one thing to say that the Cuban regime poses a national security threat to the United States, something you and the secretary say all the time. It is another to say they are actually interfering or trying to interfere in the U.S. political system. Well, the National Network on Cuba, for example, issued a rapid response plan calling for agitation and resistance, publishing the location of ICE facilities, of military installations.

48:21That gives one powerful example of this network. We also see from Cuban-linked groups, we're seeing fomentation of protests and other violent activity. And then we see other Cuban-linked groups then bail those that are in jail for violent activity, bail them out of prison to release them back onto American streets. This report details a decades-long influence and espionage campaign that continues to this day and really is an untold story. It's a story where we hear bits and pieces here and there, but presents this as the network that it is linked to the Cuban regime, both ideologically through logistical support and as the nexus, the node of a network of far-left extremism that is undermining the security of the United States of America.

49:05That was Tommy Piggott, Marco Rubio's spokesperson at the State Department. You think Rubio's making that up? Folks, let me ask you again for the nothing is happening D-bags out there, anti-American dipshits who are either too stupid or too ignorant to understand. Tommy Piggott says something right there. They launched this now. The timing is not accidental. And did you notice what he said, Justin? He said it was an untold story. Why was the story untold? because communists, liberals, and progressives inside prior Democratic administrations and probably establishment Republican administrations were just uncomfortable putting it out there because they just didn't want you to know because some of their common goals were to take down the United States even though they were part of it.

49:47It took a lot of work to uncover some of this stuff. They don't just say, I'm an influence op. You don't get a paid partnership thing under a foreign influence op. It took work to do that. and it's going to take work to dismantle it. It's never going to stop. Foreign enemies of the United States have been doing this for a long time to promote the unholy alliance. But again, I get tired of hearing from losers who never sacrificed a single effing thing in their entire lives, eating their freaking ho-hos and ding-dongs, talking about like what everyone else who actually did, did. And they don't even know about it.

50:21There's a reason this is all coming out. It's not an accident. They are trying to break up desperately. The president, Marco Rubio, the administration, FBI, the agency and elsewhere are desperately trying to break up and fight back against this just mammoth like effort by foreign countries to get us to implode from the inside. There is so much money and so many people who've been advertently and inadvertently bought off. You've seen it. They work through surrogates sometimes. You think you're doing, you're in whatever, a podcast to stand or whatever, and you get a solicitation from whatever, AmericaFirst.Inc, and they're like, hey, can you promote?

51:04You don't realize some of it's a proxy for a foreign operation. It's happened over and over. This stuff is real. Because they want to promote these foreign governments, the disintegration from the inside. And the best way to do it is to promote the unholy alliance of the liberal communist left and the Islamo fanatics. There's no better example of this than Linda Sarsour. You may know the name. I think the woman's insane. I think her ideas are crazy. But I want you to listen to this clip, how she makes this sound so wonderful. They are very, very good at organizing. This unholy alliance of Islamo fanatics and progressive communists are extremely good at organizing.

51:47They're winning races everywhere. Don't just think it's a New York thing. Colorado, the potential race in Arizona today. They may Arizona. They are very good at organizing. Check this out. This is the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. This is, quote unquote, America's birthday. And the question historically is going to be, what were we doing on the 250th anniversary of the Declaration of Independence? Do we have the audacity to sit around and say that we want to build a document that is our values and our principles and bring millions of Americans around it? I see people on the streets.

52:23I see mutual aid efforts. I see young people running for office. I see people of color, marginalized people getting up and saying, I'm the leader that I've been waiting for and seeing people rally around those leaders. And so don't give up hope, folks. There's more to come. We're going to survive this. And some of us are going to be on the fight back. And some of us are going to be on the other side waiting to catch you when we win, because there got to be other people that are going to be building the thing that you're going to come to once we win this fight back. because we will win, my friend.

52:53Hat tip at Canary Mission, great follow on X for exposing this stuff, the canary in the coal mine. Did you catch what she said there? Folks, why is this seemingly milquetoast clip if you don't pay close attention? Why am I putting it on the show? Because it's not milquetoast at all. This is burnt toast. What did she say there? There's this battle going on and when we win and get rid of this old stuff and what's the old stuff she references? Justin brought up a good point. He says, at least she knows it's the 250th anniversary. She may have just looked it up on Gemini. She's talking about the Declaration of Independence and basically moving on in a new fight.

53:37Moving on from what? The Declaration of Inalienable Rights for every child of God? Move on to what? A tyrannical Islamo-fanatic regime where the infidels are killed. Explain what exactly, what exactly in specifics you're talking about. You see the Islamo nuts and the progressive commies, how they're both spouting the same talking points. And say that we want to build a document that is our values and our principles and bring millions of Americans around it. A new document. A new document. What exactly is that document? Is it the Quran or something? Because that's not the kind of document like we're looking to build a governing system on.

54:35Hmm. Listen to Brother Dan. The unholy alliance is real. And if you're one of these people who got emotional about it and you just fell in the trap, there's still time to repent and save yourself, your kids, and your country. By the way, folks, I'm not dicking around when I tell you this. I say this to Democrats who understand that we may have a different set of ideas on the Second Amendment and taxes. I get it. Maybe I can't convince you. But I hope I can convince you to this, that these people in your party are coming after you next. You think Linda Sarsour and the people there, part of this unholy alliance, are going to leave you out of it if you don't subscribe fully to their agenda.

55:22Again, put the crack rock down. Crack is whack.

55:28And then you've got the hijacking of our education system. So you basically have liberal progressive commies, Islamo fanatics. You have the left wing media that covers for them with people like Don Lemon and others. And then you have the education system, K through 12 right now and beyond, fully indoctrinating our kids to ignore facts and believe socializing is socialism. Why do they believe that? Because you've got the head of the teachers union. These are the people, some of them. I thank you to the great teachers out there. I'm not stereotyping all of you, so I refuse to accept that. I've always spoke positively of great teachers in my life.

56:07But to the ones pumping left-wing syrup of Ipecac down our children's throats, you are part of the problem. Matter of fact, you are the problem. Listen to this lunatic, Randy Weingart, the single most destructive educational figure in modern American history. She has destroyed countless lives. Listen to her, the rantings and ravings of a lunatic. And now you see why idiots like that DSA guy believe socializing is socialism. Check this out. To protest together, to vote together, to act together, to bring about change. Real, lasting, life-improving change. That is the power and potential of our movement and of the AFT.

56:56That lady's educating your kids, man. Folks, you've got those four legs on that stool. Dangerous. the commies the islamo-nazis the media the corrupted education system i don't want you to be pessimistic we we will fight back and we are we now have with the democratization of the internet we have a bevy of tools to fight back i don't want you to sit there depressed but we're going to talk in a minute with dr bill mcclay about the revolutionary generation what they went through the sacrifices we're asked are small you'll get into some twitter fights and things like that, maybe a back and forth with your neighbor once in a while about how Obama sucked or something like that.

57:45That is a small price to pay to try to survive the winter in Valley Forge with no shoes, eating like shoe leather and pigeons or rats, whatever lived. Folks, I haven't brought up the nothing is happening file in a long time. However, I do want to bring this up because, again, you got doomers and grifters and bums and losers. You never do a single thing, sacrifice for their country at all. All they do is talk shit on the internet all day. I really do laugh at these people. I'm not kidding. Like I snicker at it. That's why I don't sit here on the show and over explain everything. However, we brought the World Cup to the United States.

58:19It was a tremendous success, but it was a security nightmare. Cash did an interesting interview with Fox. Encourage you to read it because I saw a bunch of people like, oh my gosh, I'd rather be as if the other thing isn't happening too. They know that they're just being dickheads. But the fact that the United States pulled this off and showcased the greatness of America to the world. Throw up that article if you want. And there were no significant terror attacks or security incidents is incredible. We haven't used this one in a while. We're adding to the nothing has happened. I was wondering, I'm like, why is he waiting?

58:55Patel details how the agency and partners secured record-shattering FIFA World Cup. Big hat tip to the Secret Service as well and all the partner agencies. It wasn't exclusively by any stretch an FBI operation. Secret Service did a great job. State and locals did. But folks, this is the United States. You should be proud. Not that anybody deserves like endless backslaps over it, but they pulled off basically 78 Super Bowls. Everybody came here and loved it. And it's our job to do that. You pay the federal government, state, local, tribal, territorial law enforcement agencies to keep everything secure.

59:30I always said in the Secret Service, it's a thankless job because no one ever says, hey, thanks for keeping the president alive. And that's okay. It's the way it should be. But I think it's worth noting that President Trump wanted this. He wants it again. And we can do it like no one else. So good job from them. And I saw some people like whining about it. I'm like, oh, the doomers and grifters. It's just so useless to listen to these assholes. Guys who've never done a single freaking thing in their lives. They've sacrificed one moment of their time. They wouldn't give up their show. They wouldn't give up a dollar to go do it.

59:59It's embarrassing. Really. Go sit with mommy. Roast your s'mores. and eat your Hot Pockets in the basement. Let the adults handle this. All right, I'm going to take a quick break here. We got to do the comment of the day first. Take a quick break. Man, I need you to please check this interview out, folks. It's about 15 minutes long. It is so worth your time. Dr. Bill McClay from Hillsdale. Just talking about how the revolutionary generation were legit badasses. I'm not writing a script for an Amazon Prime show. I'm just telling you it's true. These people who hate our country, I don't think you understand how we got here.

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1:03:58welcoming to the show. You know, I'm fascinated with American history. I love this country. I believe it's been touched by the hand of God. Dr. Bill McClay, professor of history at Hillsdale College. I've been looking forward to this interview for a long time. Dr. Bill, welcome to the show. It's so great to have you. It's great to be with you, Dan. So you understand being a professor of history that this country, we've been blessed. There's no dispute. Who you believe blessed is up to you, but we've been blessed. But one of the current debates going on right now, it's gotten really hot, especially amongst the younger generation, is this socialism versus free markets and capitalism debate.

1:04:33I just look at this transactionally and analytically. I try not to get emotional about it. And I ask people, can you give me a successful example of socialism where the government owns and controls the means of production in the economy that has ever worked? Because I can give you a ton of examples of free markets, you know, America and elsewhere, where that's worked just exceptionally. There don't seem to be any good examples of socialism, yet the ideology persists. Yeah, funny thing about that. Well, I mean, I think that the people who were drawn to socialism and to the siren song of Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren and lesser figures like the current mayor of New York and so on, They don't know any history.

1:05:20They don't know any current events. They don't really know that even Sweden is moving away from socialist policies that have been bankrupting them. And so the trend line around the world of people who've actually experienced socialism is always towards tyranny and then the collapse of the regimes. So, you know, I think there's maybe a special moment right now that we have, we're actually very prosperous, that the economy is doing as well as ever, you know, and I don't think that when the president talks about it in the superlative terms he likes to use, you know, that he's far off from the truth.

1:06:05It's a really good time for a lot of things, and they're getting better as we get more more energy independent and solve some of the world's problems. But young people who are having a hard time, especially college graduates, they're a hard time launching in life. And their expectations are unrealistic. You know, when I came out of college, it was the 70s, very bad time economically speaking. And I, you know, I had to kind of make my way for a few years. And it doesn't kill you to take a job that's below what your skill set would determine, unless you have a major in women's studies or gender studies, in which case you sort of deserve what you get.

1:06:58But it, you know, there's that sense that you can't just sort of walk into a really great white-collar job that pays six figures is coming because you went to a prestigious college, that dies hard for a lot of people, especially when they move to New York after they graduate and discover that they're paying 10 times the amount in rent that they paid in their hometown and they can't meet their expenses. Socialism is a charmer in the sense that it offers an answer to this. We have an inequitable distribution of wealth because really smart, ambitious, entrepreneurial people like Elon Musk, an immigrant, have made fantastic fortunes creating things that people want and that perform important functions in our economy and the world's economy.

1:07:59So they deserve the wealth that comes to them from their inventiveness, from their persuasiveness, their persistence, their innovation. And on the one hand, I'm a Harvard major in gender studies. The world sort of owes me something, a guaranteed job. And I think it's a hard fall for a lot of this generation to see the reality of what in a very rapidly changing job market, and who knows what AI is going to do to a lot of these white collar jobs that may not need to have human beings filling them. So it's scary. And, you know, the idea that we could just sort of stop things and redistribute all of this fantastic disparity of wealth is appealing.

1:08:57What they never take into account is the inevitable human corruption that comes when you have agencies of government redistributing wealth. And it becomes violent, it becomes repressive, it becomes oppressive. It ultimately squelches the creative energies of an economy. And we have chapter and verse on the history of this in a variety of countries in a variety of time periods. Look, even Latin America is going free market across the board. I mean, there's just a few holdouts in Latin America. In Nicaragua. Nicaragua being one of them where they're now canceling. This is what happens with socialism every time.

1:09:44Ortega's canceling presidential elections because, God forbid, you know, people have a vote. They won't vote to forfeit their own liberty. But I do want to get this. I want to make sure we get to the good news here. So this is really important. We're talking about the bad news, the rise of the recurrent rise of socialism and the incredible marketing ability of these lunatics who keep promoting this failed ideology. But it is the 250th anniversary of the power of free markets, liberty, you know, when in the course of human events and we the people are great founding documents. It's such a binary.

1:10:18I mean, we've only been around for 250 years, which, you know, as a professor of history is not a long time. China measures that in multiples. I mean, you have countries in Europe that four or five, ten times as long as we have. And yet we're number one. There's no disputing that GDP, military power, global dominance. We're number one. But there was no guarantee in the beginning, Dr. Bill, that this was going to happen. We should never have won the Revolutionary War. If you were better on DraftKings or like one of these prediction platforms, we were probably a thousand to one odds we would lose the Revolutionary War to the powerful British Empire with their Navy.

1:10:56And in the War of 1812, the odds were probably just a little bit less. and yet we're still here. Oh yeah, 1812, that was a crazy thing for us to do, and we got out by the skin of our teeth. But no, look, and I think you mentioned before the aspect of divine intervention here. Let me say this about the revolution, that I think one of the reasons we have been so successful is that we are the first nation in human history to enshrine in one of our foundational documents, the Declaration of Independence, the idea, the biblical idea that man is made in the image of God. And that's present implicitly in the Declaration of Independence.

1:11:46All men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights, which means unalienable means you can't even give them away. It is what you are. They're part of our essential nature is to have these rights. I think this comes very close to one of the ways that you can understand the idea that we're made in the image of God, which is in the book of Genesis, and it's a base of Jewish and Christian understanding of human anthropology. So there you go. At the very beginning, at the very outset of American history, you have this statement about our fundamental equality in the eyes of God and our being endowed with rights that no one can take away, no one can even give away.

1:12:33They're inherent in our created nature. That's very powerful. And as you say, it is a basis for individual liberty, individual dignity, the dignity of the human person, the dignity of all life, which is crashing all around us in Canada, in Europe. New York City is also apparently going for an assisted suicide bill. It's what they call medical assistance in dying. I talk about a euphemism. So we have stood for the dignity of life, of human life, of individual human life. And that's right from the beginning. So that would be a reason for providence, as George Washington, he never liked to say God.

1:13:25He always liked to say providence with a capital T. to smile on us because we have stood for the utmost in human dignity at a real juncture in American history, in world history, in human history. 1776 is a moment in human history that we should cherish, not just we Americans, because it's a breakthrough. And I don't think people who just casually follow history, no, you know, people are busy. They're not going to sit, you know, and people are raising their kids and working. I understand that everybody has the time. And I'm just obsessed with this topic. I'm not sure people grasp how life changing and game changing the idea of individual unalienable rights was.

1:14:18The idea before that had not only been, you know, it was every, I mean, it was unanimous. The thought was that some king or some dictator was knighted by God and his family lineage had some special Avenger powers like the Marvel movies and that you were his subjects. That was just accepted as common thought. So the idea that what we would call the average common man, I don't mean that in a qualitatively bad way, but everyone was born with the same exact big R God-given rights as the king was revolutionary. Like this was this was considered like insane. King George was probably laughing at us. Like, look at these idiots.

1:15:01Consent of the government. What a bunch of morons. And we got the last laugh in that one. Well, and, you know, there are people even then who interpreted the words of the Declaration narrowly as saying just not that all men are created equal, which is what it actually says, but that American Englishmen are the equivalent of English Englishmen. You know, because in some ways the revolution was about American colonists saying, you're not going to take away our rights as Englishmen in order to sort of reconstitute the British Empire. You know, you can't do this. We've governed ourselves for 150 years.

1:15:42That's one thing people don't take into account is how long colonies like Virginia and Massachusetts had been running and having their own legislatures, which levered their own taxes. And basically, they were free of the interference of Parliament and the King. And then after the French and Indian War, things changed. And it just wasn't possible. I actually try to give the British a fair shake when I teach this stuff at Hillsdale College because there's a tendency for everybody to be patriots. But they did have a problem. They were way in debt. they had spent a lot of money, a ton of money, trying to defend their British North American colonies and their British empire, which they now had was expanded because of the outrageous success of the war against the French.

1:16:33And they had to do something to get the colonies to in some way contribute to the general sort of operating funds of the empire. What they did was extremely clumsy. I think it could have, it could possibly, somebody should write a book about this, and I haven't, but it could have been done in a better way, even without the connectivity that we have today, even with an ocean separating. But it wasn't done in a skillful way. And every step that was taken aggravated the problem until the colonists came to conclusion. Reluctantly, in many cases, they came to the conclusion they had to separate them.

1:17:11That was the only solution. But the war itself, you're right. There's a saying, baseball is the game of inches. Oh, I love this part. This is my favorite part. I know where you're going with this. Even before we had challenges and instant replay, which I think have been a mixed blessing. But, well, history is a game of inches. And it's not just the famous Cleopatra's nose. If it had been inches longer, she wouldn't have been so attractive. And then blah, blah, blah. There's a lot of close calls. In George Washington, one of the biggest things he did, and he doesn't get a lot of credit for this, is simply holding the army together during this war.

1:18:00You know, we were at war from 1775, April 1775 on. But by the time that, say, Christmas of 1776 rolled around, we were on the defensive. We were losing every battle. The British were just overwhelming us. Even the day the declaration, the actual declaration of independence, not the document, but July 2nd, The British were landing a huge force at Staten Island, and they were going to just overwhelm us. So it was that day that Washington, Christmas Day, 1776, that Washington ordered the crossing the Delaware, the attack of the early morning hours of the Hessians at Trenton. And that was a win. That was a win, a glorious win for us, a gutsy win.

1:18:57under the circumstances. But he had, by the time the winter came into full bloom by the early 1777, his troops were deserting. They were dying off. And Valley Forge was later, but it's another instance where he was in danger of losing the army. He'd go into months where he had only 3 ,000 men. and then he'd get them to reenlist. Washington did things like he had, this just seems so crazy, but I think you will get this. He had, there was a play about the life of Cato the Elder, and a lot of people, even just common people, were familiar with the classics at that time. And Cato the Elder was trying to defend the Roman Republic against the empire.

1:19:56you know, to the small-scale human rights orientation of the Roman Republic. And they lost, and he ended up committing suicide. But he gave these wonderful speeches about the nobility of freedom. And this play, which was written by a British guy named Joseph Addison, was he put on a performance for his sick, dying, ill-clad, hungry, malnourished troops. And it inspired them to keep on fighting. That tells you something about Washington, but also about his men. Who would think of doing that, like showing a top gun to... Right, right, right, right. No, it's a good point, though, Dr. McClay. We're talking to Dr.

1:20:48Bill McClay, professor of history at Hillsdale College. But it's a great point. I really think, I mean, it's almost axiomatic to say the public school systems failed our general. I mean, we get that by the reading and math. But on history, I'll tell you, Doc, we blown it. I mean, we learned what George Washington, all I remember being, it was like a cherry tree story. Like that is the least, that's the most ridiculous, who cares? Washington, I think when you full spectrum analyze George Washington, you have to take into account the good and the bad and the good far, far. I mean, more than maybe any other of our founding fathers outweighs the bad.

1:21:25But you have to take into account that Washington was ruthless. I mean, he would they would hang deserters. I mean, he had no choice. The whole army would have abandoned him. I mean, when you look at the Battle of Trenton, you know, the famous, you know, iconic painting of Washington crossing the Delaware, that was guerrilla war. That wasn't the old, you know, British Empire, what they were using. It was the Hessians. But you know what they were using? Line up, shoot, duck, the other guy shoots. This was early guerrilla war. Like, these early revolutionaries, in today's terms, were pretty badass.

1:21:58No, they were, definitely. And, you know, this is one of the things that Washington said numerous times as well. You know, yeah, we're not the equal of British regulars as they they didn't call them redcoats. They called them regulars. But we we know things that they don't know. We and we have sharpshooters that are better than theirs. And, you know, it yeah, we had advantages. We were playing on the home field for one thing. That's always an advantage. but we had a tactical superiority, which was evident by the way, in the French and Indian War, the British were so arrogant towards their American compadres that they didn't pick up on this.

1:22:39But in Washington, there's a new movie out, I have not seen, maybe you have called Young Washington that I've heard really good things about. It's about his experience in the French and Indian War. And I can't wait to see it because apparently it's a pretty accurate rendering of that. And he was a very young man, but he was a tough hombre. And he went through some bad stuff. He was captured. And at one point he was sort of blamed for all these troubles and And he just kind of cut through it. He was... He surrendered at full necessity and was beat up pretty bad for that. And he learned a ton from it.

1:23:24Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the time he was commander in chief of the Continental Army at the time of the Revolution, he knew what he was doing. And, you know, there's this great moment where he shows up. They call the Second Continental Congress. and he shows up wearing his military uniform right which is especially designed is buff and blue and it's very striking and you know nobody else is there wearing a military uniform it's and he's all he was a big guy he was an imposing figure he was a for that time he was like the shaquille o 'neal of that time he was huge yeah he was i believe he was six two but you know you consider that like James Madison was just a little over five feet, you know, he powered over.

1:24:14And John Adams, similarly, very short guy, said, no, he had a big chest. He was, you know, he was extremely, he was fitted for the role. But he's sort of saying, I'm your guy. And I volunteer. He made one condition that he didn't accept any pay for the job. Amazing. And I'll tell you one other thing. You talked about George III laughing at him. Well, the tables turned on that. And when it was reported to George III by a guy who was doing, Benjamin West, an American, who was doing his portrait, George III's portrait, said that Washington had resigned his commission, which he did in Annapolis. of his he resigned his commission as commander-in-chief to return to his farm in mount vernon george the third said well you know if that's true he's the greatest character of the age it's my favorite quote possibly of all time yeah and they couldn't understand that the relinquishing of power was such a foreign thought to a monarch that he couldn't process that the most powerful man in america who by the way could have been a king if we want joy if there was going to be a king in the United States.

1:25:32George Washington was king. And he would have probably won popular king approval at about 80 % of the vote. And he refused it. He was actually a reluctant president too, but he just refused it. And King George couldn't understand that. No. And a lot of people couldn't understand it. I mean, but he, yes, he was a true blue Republican. I mean, the small r Republican, but he believed that the people should rule, not monarchs. And that's something that most of the founders were agreed about. Jefferson, to go back to your earlier comments, Jefferson has in one of his last letters, he wrote to somebody about how the world is awakening to the capacity of man and no longer accepts the idea.

1:26:23I'm just paraphrasing here. I should memorize the quote because it's so good. He said they rejected the idea that some are born booted and spurred to ride the backs of other men. In other words, that there is a natural aristocratic order, a natural order of people who are born to rule over others. And he said we rejected that idea. All men are created equal. All men are created equal, endowed by their creator. not by government. It's an interesting difference between our Declaration and the French Declaration. The French Declaration, which Jefferson actually had some influence on, but it says that power comes from the nation.

1:27:11We don't say that. We say it comes from God. So there's an appeal to heaven, as John Locke would say. There's an appeal to heaven inherent in the Declaration of Independence that you're not going to find in the French document. And it still does not seem our rights as natural, as inherent, as inborn, as the deposit of the creator. Dr. Bill, I got to run. Unfortunately, I'm running out of time. But the only reason I wanted to wrap it up here is because this actually ties into how we opened the show on the socialism versus freedom and liberty debate. Because I believe that this modern iteration of the same failed idea is ironically a leftover, almost caricature of the European costume aristocracy we tried to leave behind in the United States where you were born into some caste or class system.

1:28:13Like you just said, the Harvard Women's Studies guy. No, I was born into this class. No, no, you're not born into any class. This is the United States. You're born into the U.S. citizen class. And that's the irony of the whole thing on our 250th, that everything we tried to escape is being, again, regurgitated under a new marketing scheme. But this is everything, everything we got away from. So I'm out of time, unfortunately. But I would love to do. Oh, man, I'd love to go on that. We'll come back. I know, we can go on. And I tell you what, I think during this. Can I just mention one thing? Yeah, please, I got about a minute.

1:28:48That's it. How the EU invalidated the election in Romania. That was this raw display of democracy doesn't matter when it contradicts the intentions of the EU. Yeah, or like we just said, Nicaragua. You're really on to something with this. Yeah, Nicaragua too. I mean, yeah, it's not Europe, obviously. However, it's the same brand of this, you know, this foregone lineage thing. Like you guys, you're benighted by, you know, God. And it's the same nonsense. Whereas we said the opposite. You all are knighted by God. He's going to put the scepter on all of your shoulders. It's a totally different idea.

1:29:28I'd love to do about an hour with you on all this stuff. Because every one of these, I didn't even get to Shay's Rebellion. You just call me, I'm ready. So we'd love to have you back. All right. Dr. Bill McClay, Hillsdale College. Thank you so much. Really appreciate you joining us. Thank you, Dan, for everything you do and have done for our country. Oh, yes, sir. Thank you very much. Folks, that was Dr. Bill McClay. Check him out. Hillsdale College has an unbelievable library of material on this topic. Strongly, highly, hugely recommend them. Check out Haley coming up at noon. Rumble.com slash Haley.

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