TMZ and Me (Ep. 2535)

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33:44So he is extremely excited. I'll let them do their thing. You know, over the last two days, there was something like, you know, almost 200 ,000 people over at the Ellipse. And the list just goes on and on. I mean, just every way that you – and then tonight the weather ended up – I thought the weather was perfect last night. The weather was actually better tonight. So we're sweating the storm all day. The beautiful all day. And then it's looking like from 6 to 9 there's going to be a storm. And this is fucking crazy. But the storm literally went like this. And split. And went around the White House.

34:29So. And the breeze was perfect. I mean just everything. You couldn't have had a better night. It was absolutely perfect. Just enough wind to keep the bugs off us. I mean, all the shit that I was worried about played out perfectly. Production was off the charts. I mean, if you look at what we did, we built an arena on the White House lawn. That was amazing. But if you look at what we did at the ellipse, it's almost more impressive than what we did on the South Lawn. Folks, he's not kidding. If you have a way, I don't have a way. I should have a weather app on my phone, but I don't. If you have a weather app on your phone for pilots or something like that, if you can retroactively go back, I'm sure you can.

35:08He is not kidding. Chris showed it to me on his phone from Rumble. This big storm cloud is headed for a beeline. I know because we were across the street at Hotel Washington. We were at this little like lounge just hanging out because we thought, oh, you know, let's not go over too early. And Chris was like, oh, man, look at this big storm cloud coming in. This could be really bad. He shows me 15 minutes later. I swear to you, because you're never going to believe us. Look at it now. The thing split in half and just completely avoided D.C., but left behind this beautiful breeze, dropped the temperature about 15 degrees, and the breeze kept all the bugs out.

35:46Even if you looked up in the lighting, there was hardly a bug up there anywhere. Incredible event. Of course, the Democrats, who still haven't learned the lesson I have told them, is this the actual thing? Look at that. There it is. Splitting. Everything's avoiding. It's like there was a shield. over D.C. Like a from heaven cloud shield that was around Washington. Nothing went over Washington. It went everywhere else. It went everywhere. I know because the next day I was flying out and they called us and they said, hey man, listen, we may have a problem with the weather. It's been bad everywhere but D.C.

36:23I'm not messing with you. I thought I was going to be late. I was afraid I wasn't going to make it back for today's show. What do I always tell you about politics? What is it, folks? What is it? What is it? Snapshots and soundbites. Correct? Snapshots and soundbites. Snapshots and soundbites. That's politics. Until you understand, it's pictures and soundbites. Don't get in the game. White papers are great. I love the academic portion of politics and policy. However, politics are snapshots and soundbites. Here's a soundbite now that shows you the other part of politics you got to get down that the Democrats have not fully digested.

36:55Contrast. If you were going to do a counter-programming event, like Turning Point did at the Super Bowl, you damn well better go all in and you better not make a buffoon out of yourself. Whereas Turning Point during the Super Bowl sent a message with millions of people watching online during the most prominent halftime show anywhere in the sports universe and people tuned into Turning Point because they went all out. If you're going to put an event together, you better not look buffoonish. So the Democrats decided to put it on an event to counter-program UFC 250 at the White House. you want to talk about sound bites that can paint a contrast this is the buffoonery that this is by the way i swear to you again i thought this was a joke i had to double check it this actually happened this is not a scam a scheme a setup a bit this really happened this was their counter-programming event check this out no one is getting left behind this time No one is getting left behind Not this time No one is getting left behind this time How do we get there?

38:09Together or never get there at all Even Jasmine walked in for that. She's like, what is that buffoonery I hear in there? She's like, I didn't know you guys did another bit. It's not a bit. That was real. Folks Muttleys In the chat Please Folks We have since thrown away the five Muttley limit So if you want to populate the chat With 20 or 40 Muttleys It is now up to you You are the ultimate arbiter of the amount of Burn the chat to the ground Chris from Rumble Warning We are going to burn the chat down with Muttleys Because we decided as such We are one of the few podcasts I can poll 60 ,000 people At 10 o 'clock in the morning Eastern time I love it.

38:50I love it. Some of you probably may be watching it work too. Good for you. Sean O'Malley salute for you right there. Love you guys. Burn it down. Burn the chat down. Contrast matter, folks. Now, contrast what you just heard with this. Here's Sugar Sean popping up. I thought this was real. I thought this, excuse me, I thought this music was pre-recorded. and looked over Mike oh my gosh this is fake if you

39:27what you laughing

39:32there you go folks I looked over Mike wait this is live and you had look at You can't even beat these optics. He's got the armor behind him. All right, I told you with the beast, I've given up on the beast fight, whatever. Call it the beast. And then you got the, you got the, and then Diego Lopez wins his fight. Diego Lopez wins his fight, by the way. And listen, it was an amazing fight. That guy brought so much energy. And he decides after the fight, he didn't even have a shirt on. he's gonna run out to the ellipse with another 12 000 people out there now compare that with we are doing this together not alone that goofy whatever that was i mean the imagery is just insane you have the video of him rolling out to the ellipse this was freaking like bananas check this out hat tip full send mma on this this is after the fight ladies and gentlemen snapshots and sound bites, man.

40:36I'm just telling you, as your brother in this fight, look at him approaching 61 ,000 people. They've tried to stop us. They just can't. They tried to stop us, but they can't do it. Justin's like, why are you whispering? I don't know.

40:58Folks, until you get that lesson down, if you were a political activist, you if you are not almost don't ever ask you let me just sum it up this way don't ever ask a question you're not willing to provide an answer to if you are going to go out and do an event a counter-programming event to a massive operation like this and you're saying is it going to work don't do it turning point knew it was going to work they saw this soft spot in the market There is no market for like fight fan watchers looking to hear a song like that on fight night. There just isn't. You totally blew it. You forgot the golden rule.

41:37Sound bites and snapshots and contrast. Dana was on with Katie Miller on her podcast too. And this is why they're, Dana is very unapologetic about how the UFC operates. And this is why they continue to succeed. Folks, in this modern era where everybody's public and private life is exposed immediately, it is really, really difficult to be an inauthentic, non-genuine politician or business person these days because everybody's just scars are bared for the world now, for better or for worse. It just is what it is. Everybody sees people all the time. You get cameras in your face. You say, I couldn't even walk out of the White House.

42:15You get what I'm talking about? Paul is a public figure. He doesn't even want to be. like everybody's not dana though has been very unapologetic about the ufc business model i'm telling you this is why this succeeds if you're going to sit on the fence you're going to get a fence post up your ass it's going to hurt okay you've got to take a side here's dana with katie miller about about hey man what do you do if like companies don't want to do business with the ufc because you're associated with the white house the answer is roll it in a ball and check this out You've been openly supportive of President Trump for a long time.

42:47Has that ever cost UFC any business, either domestically or abroad? I don't give a shit. I don't know the answer to that question. I've gotten to a point in my life, especially after COVID and all the nutty shit that went on during that time, that I only want to be in business with and talk to people that I'm aligned with. Were you always red-pilled? Always what? Red-pilled, like conservative. No, no, no. I would have considered myself a lot more liberal. I would have considered myself an 80s or 90s Democrat. But I'm more of a common sense guy. I'm not a very political person, but I'm all for common sense.

43:28What was it that changed for you? The world losing its mind and everything going nuts and most of the things that you and I have talked about during this podcast. And Dana's another one who's the exact same person, privately as he is publicly. I'm not going to tell you that we go out to coffee together and he's my best friend. He is a friend. He's always been more than nice to me and my family. Dana's an amazing guy. I had him one night. Let me tell you a quick story about Dana. They invited me to a UFC. I was with Chris from Rumble and it was a great event. My daughter got sick. It was not great.

44:05It was not a great night. I really don't. The one thing about the UFC is if they're going to, you know if you're gonna get really like nice tickets there you don't want to leave early i was devastated but it was like two fights before the finale and i really had to go instead of dana being like hey man why are you leaving dana was like how can i help you no i'm serious he's like i've got doctors and friends and i think i was in miami at the time or whatever it was he's that kind of guy like that's what happens when you don't try to fence it all the time you say we're going to run our business the way we want to run our business and We love America and we're not going to apologize for it.

44:40And why should you apologize for America? Folks, have you seen all these videos with FIFA, the World Cup going on? Of all of these Europeans traveling around the United States, people from around the world, not just Europeans. They're traveling around the United States and they're just, they've fallen in love with this country. I can't tell you enough how amazing this place is. You see the video of the Japanese attendees at the World Cup game cleaning up the stadium by themselves? you're like what they worked there no they didn't work there they were just fans like oh this country i'm i'm just obsessed with u.s history and i've been saying for 10 years on the air okay some of you aren't gonna like this the secular types i i'm sorry but i'm not gonna say i don't care but it doesn't matter god picked this place he did there's something special about it god picked this place he just did there is no reason without some kind of heavenly intervention i just don't believe it's luck we should be here you know i always talk about how we should never have survived the revolutionary war we just did we the odds were probably 10 000 to one us defeating the british empire and we came so close to losing so many times I mean, they had their own New York.

46:061812, we were getting smoked in the War of 1812. They burned the freaking White House. Then the Battle of New Orleans, that would have been it. If we lost that, it was over. And then we pull that one off. And then I think about it. 1861, Lincoln just gets into office. The union breaks up. We don't even know what to do with Fort Sumter. They're like, hey, man, we've got this territory down there. The South Carolina's not really having it. They're saying they want it. What do we do? Well, who shoots first? And then the whole country's divided, killing each other. You had Antietam, Gettysburg, Bull Run.

46:46Well, we should never survive. And not only did we survive this, folks, 250 years of freedom, liberty, and kicking ass. We are the best. We're the best. You can't say that. F yeah, we can say it. we're the best we have the most powerful military the most powerful economy despite dealing with Barack Obama despite dealing with Woodrow Wilson and all their bullshit we have come back again and again and again to be the most prosperous successful country in the history of sentient beings God's hand touched this country man I don't know how you don't see it how are you not proud of this place

47:32how? and by the way I say that to everyone everyone we have been through a lot people were treated very poorly we got through that too people were treated not just poorly but horrifically slavery, Jim Crow other groups of migrants who came here were treated poorly but you know what the American goodwill went out in the end I talk about this story all the time I even got one of the prints of his paintings, Horace Pippen. Look up the story for black America. This is your country too. Look up the story of the Harlem Hellfighters. Yes, many of them were treated terribly on the way back. But they were heroes.

48:12They never lost a trench in World War I. Ever. This is your country too. Man, we've been kicking ass for a long time. Man, we've been. In a fight where you were in some points six to one underdog, How good does this feel? Hey, I'm from America. 250 years ago, we were way bigger than 6-1 dogs. And look at us thriving now. To all the current, former, and future military service members, thank you so much. Thank you so much to all the first responders, the police officers, firefighters, ambulance, EMTs. You guys have no idea how grateful I am. And for as long as I'm able to, I will use my name to make money and support you guys.

48:59First and foremost. Thank you. It's damn right. We were far more than six to one underdogs. Folks, I was getting a little choked up there. I'm actually glad the guys ran that. I'm sorry. I don't mean I get emotional about it, but. I just love this place so much. It's not some act. It's not a shtick. I do. I just like, it's just so special. I mean, you understand how blessed you are to live here in this country that's been touched by the hand of God. We're floating on a sea of oil. We have two enormous oceans protecting us. We've got just the most incredible people. Have you ever been to the South during an SEC game?

49:51Have you ever just stopped in there are mountain ranges anywhere from out west to down south have you ever seen you know Tennessee what Tennessee looks like the only reason I bring up Tennessee is these foreigners who are here from FIFA for the World Cup are just taking their cameras out and video in the United States and it's like because we see it every day does it even does the majestic vista we live in called the United States, does it even ring your bell anymore? Because we see it all the time. It rings mine. So many heroic men and women gave up so much. Think back to Battle of Trenton, Revolutionary War era U.S.

50:40soldiers didn't even know what country they were. The country back then was still an idea. No boots on their feet in the freezing cold winter. think of these trench war fighters i tell you the battle of henry johnson in world war ii battle henry johnson one guy with a box of grenades and a knife my gosh you live in such a special place play that guy here's this guy freddy who is he's become a celebrity he's over here from a german i guess a german flag at freddy la7 somewhere in tennessee this is everywhere everywhere you've out to western maryland near garrett county and looked around in the autumn glory festival here's freddy again some of his tweets which have gone nuclear it's the he says the european mind basically can't comprehend any of this stuff that's going on here's this is so this is so united states only to freddy's in the car this freddy guy well i don't know freddy at all i never met him but he's become a social media celebrity he's in the car because his pictures have gone viral.

51:47I guess he's just videoing a car trip, and he gets a shout-out while videoing a car trip on the radio to Freddie on Freddie's feed. Check this out. I don't know if he flew in. Where are you flying to Florida? Driving to Houston, I believe, something like that. He stayed in Fair Hope, Alabama, last night. He's been at Bass Pro Shop today. He's been to, I believe, Buc-ee's, and he's documented it all on Twitter. So if you go to Twitter or Hex, you look him up at FreddieLA7. So, F-R-E-D-D-Y-L-A-7. Freddy L-A-7. But anyways, he's become an Alice fella. He's become a huge fan of Ella Langley. And I shared on his ex-account last night.

52:25Two different occasions. So, the usual senatorial WSDM. And Ella Langley was on. So, thank you, Paul. I said, Aunt Freddy. Hopefully, enjoy some Ella. Glad you discovered Ella. Became an Ella fella like all of us. And y 'all check him out. He sent some awesome quotes up there. Ella, Morgan Wallen, now I'm done with the USAM.

52:46I don't know why I'm so emotional about this today. Look at me. My eyes are all getting... I just haven't come back from that event. We just... If I can encourage you to do one thing without being overly melodramatic about this. I say this for our younger folks out there. We love you. You, again, axiomatically, you're the future, okay? You're it. we're not going to be around forever it's your country travel overseas do yourself a favor not just one take three or four trips i'm not talking about like cancun that's great do that whatever it's fine but travel overseas and i'm don't just go to like the touristy spots go travel overseas to you know go to places in africa central south america or just go to paris and Rome.

53:38They're beautiful, but go overseas and see the rest of the world and then see what Europeans are seeing here with some fresh eyes when you come back. Here was another account overseas, a foreign account that came to the United States for FIFA that just can't believe the majesty of the flyover. I'm going to tell you something. I've seen 100, 500, I don't know, flyovers. They never get old. The flyover at the UFC was incredible, but here's the, I guess they don't do this in the European Union. Here's this account, Fiago. Like, wow, this is something special. Check this out. Look at this. Now, if you're an SEC football fan or you've been to an NFL game, you see one of these every weekend.

54:25But you got to understand, look at a guy's face at the end. He's like, wow, what is this? This is magic to them. This is, it's almost like when the, when the new world, the American Indians for the first time, Native Americans saw, you know, ships coming over for the first time, they thought they were like floating magic castles. Like this is what this is like for a lot of Europeans. And you live here in the land of floating magic castles. You live here every day, every day. Thank God for it. Thank him. No, actually thank him. Here's one last one on this. and then we'll take a quick break. I got a great interview coming up with Vince Colonese too, but you ever been to Buc-ee's?

55:10Everybody loves Buc-ee's. You ain't been to Buc-ee's, you're missing out. I'm not sure. You may have to have your passport revoked if by the time you're 50 or 60, because you know, travel stuff. You haven't been to a Buc-ee's. Here's a European who sees a Buc-ee's for the first time and the reaction here is absolutely priceless. Check this out. I mean, I grew an adult like we are. I'm being excited. So excited about arriving at a Buc-ee's. If you've never been to Buc-ee's before, you might be mystified as to what it actually is. If you take a gas station and mix it with Disney World, wrap all of that around a gift shop, then that's probably the best way I can describe what Buc-ee's is all about.

55:48Wow, it's all light. Look at it.

55:57You know what I love about Buc-ee's? it's an aspirational inspirational brand the message

56:07this is what came to Bucky's really for the beaver nuggets I'm going to put these in my suitcase and fly them back to Scotland they're that good honestly CLT in the chat Dan you're making me get teary eyed I'm making myself get teary eyed and I don't care you know liberal folks can make fun of it media-eyed all you want. Please. It's just about Buc-ee's, obviously. This place is just magic. And you are blessed by God to live in this land we call the United States of America. There is almost no chance if you roll the dice that this country should have lasted even four or five years afterwards. And look where we are now.

56:53The economic, military, freedom and liberty, capital of the known universe. There has never been a group of people ever, ever who have lived as free as well and as powerfully as you do right now. You know, Libs would complain of SpaceX IPO. I'll bring this up with Vince in a little bit, but if that happened in China, the same liberals who hate this place would have been like, oh my gosh, it's the greatest thing ever. I'll get to this more tomorrow. But liberals are whining about this too. something like three, four thousand new millionaires were created because a company went public. And yeah, oh, Elon got risk.

57:32Yeah, so did a lot of other people, including like people who took jobs for not great salaries, but took options in the company. If that would happen in China, you'd be celebrating the wonders of the communist system. It happens here, but he shits all over it. Thank God. I am a U.S. citizen with a U.S. passport, the land of the magic castles. All right, quick break. We'll get to Vince. I saw a couple of people in the chat saying how much they love Vince. We love Vince too. He's been a tremendous asset to this company and he's been around conservative media for a long time. Hey, buy gold and put some silver in your pocket.

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59:11welcoming to the show for our bi-weekly appearance well weekly i do your radio show then you do my podcast he's always my favorite hits our good friend vince colonnace the king of morning podcasting rumble.com slash vince every day at 8 a.m join him in his live chat uh vince thanks for joining me today again appreciate it always love doing it thanks dan so it's been a busy week I was off yesterday. I said I had an event to go to. Obviously, it was the UFC event. I was there.

59:38Dan Bongino:It was like the worst kept secret. It was the worst kept secret. You kept saying like, I've got an event. I'm like, he's obviously going to the fight. But I was like, whatever. I didn't even speculate on the air. I was like, Dan wants to keep it a secret. I'll keep it a secret. You're my guy. Like you and I've been friends a long time. I just feel like, I don't know. I always feel like you don't want to do this. Hey, look at me. Like high school, Harry. you're like you know in high school i threw a 400 yard touchdown over that mountain like uncle rico yeah and i just i was like i didn't really want to talk about it because i just felt like you know i i don't know that's why i just kind of kept it quiet but i know i know it's like it's like you know you're at a you're at a point in life where you've got access to a lot of cool stuff and you're looking back on the life that you had before this and you're like stunned by the fact that you can do all of it now and now you feel a little bit and now you feel a little bit like over like you feel a little ashamed or something i don't know if that's the right word but you just don't want to brag about it it is it is the right word i feel like i want to take the whole vince and bongino army with me and i feel like really like ashamed i can't i wish i could and but you know growing up a middle class cat me and my my wife too we just we walked in the white house on the south grounds and that's and believe me i've been there but we worked there five years like the first time I seen the South grounds.

1:00:55However, we walked in and we were just thinking that exact thing. Like never forget that, that feeling like, my gosh, what the hell am I doing here? Just some kid from Queens. I think that's why I want, I just wanted everyone to experience. I kind of gave him some insight, but it was an amazing event. Unfortunately, one of the things that kind of took away some of the thunder from it was, you know, Hokit saying that Michelle Obama's a man. If you know Hokit, I've been to quite a few fights with Hokit. He always does this little like stand-up shock jock bit at the end. It's nothing new. But Vince, I got to tell you, man, if you're expecting people like conservatives to get their panties in a bunch over this thing, a hard freaking pass by me, Bill Clinton, like with the whole sexual episode and White House, Biden with the transgender awareness with the booby flashing thing.

1:01:43And I mean, I'm sorry. I'm just not upset. I don't really care that much. I don't even know why the left is upset about this.

1:01:50Dan Bongino:They were telling me like last week that gender is a social construct. Why is it a bad thing if a woman wants to be a man? Like now it's an insult that a woman can be a man? I don't really even understand what rules they're playing by. I thought it was just amusing. Like who cares? I mean, it's like he's not the president of the United States. He's a guy. He's a fighter. He got the microphone. He used it to tell an insult joke. Okay, everyone, get over yourselves. I thought the event was incredible. I just think what a cool treat that you had, that you did get a chance to see it up close and personal.

1:02:17Dan Bongino:But for even those of us who are watching it on a screen, I felt like my eyes welling up with tears just seeing the flyover at the end of a great Zac Brown national anthem. Zac Brown, the left, was trying to hector him out of even doing it. They were like, don't do this. He's like, I'm doing it because I love my country. I'm doing it for the troops. And he did a great job, and it makes me like Zac Brown even more than I did before, which I already liked the guy. So I think it was a great event. And Vince, I'm going to tell you something. Zac, who I've met at other UFC events, ironically. Folks, listen, I'm not blowing wind up your caboose.

1:02:49I got no time for it. You will never meet a nicer, more down-to-earth guy. You like his music, don't like it. I do. Whether you don't or do like his music, whatever, do your thing. He walked around that event, and him and Triple H, you know, Paul from the WWE, him and Triple H must have taken, I'm not kidding, 100-plus pictures with our military folks. The only reason they stopped was because the event security folks, they had event security in addition to Secret Service where they're specifically under the claw. The event security folks said, guys, you got to sit down. Eventually, the cameras aren't going to be able to sit.

1:03:28You got to sit down. They would have taken pictures. You're never going to meet two more down-to-earth guys than Zac Brown and Triple H. They could not have been more approachable.

1:03:36Dan Bongino:Can I ask one more thing just on the people who were there? I saw that there were some other comedians there too. Shane Gillis was there and Nate Bargetsy was there. I didn't know that Nate was there. Nate, as right now, There's a reason he's the most successful comedian in America right now. It's because he's clean. There's definitely a market for that. And he's super funny. We went and saw him recently, my wife and I and my kid. We loved it. It was a great show. But the left is so furious that Nate Bargetsy was there. The Daily Beast has an entire piece that he was caught at the event. It was like a big, like somehow he was committing a crime.

1:04:09Dan Bongino:These people are crazy. They think they still have power to cancel what, Nate Bargetsy because he attended a UFC fight at the White House? It's crazy. It's so fake, Vince. It's so faux outrage and so artificial. I mean, when some liberal shows up at whatever, like a conservative crowd event, like a country concert, you don't hear all this bullshit. It's so fake. And I'm going to tell you something they got. They were probably stunned. That other guy was there to the kill Tony guy. I feel like that's yeah. Tony Hinchcliffe. Yeah, yeah. Tony Hinchcliffe. And he was there too. And they got mobbed by people asking him for photos.

1:04:49I remember Shane because he had, I think he had a white hat on. He just walks over. He's easy to spot. You could see him. But, you know, again, it's just so artificial and fake because some of them may have went there like Tony or something that expected, you know, some kind of like, yeah, it's a MAGA crowd. Everybody was like, hey, Tony, whatever. It was just a really, there was a really cool vibe. and they kept the crowd kind of limited because the South Grounds, they would have liked more seeds, but they couldn't do it just because the way the South Grounds was set up and the way the claw worked out.

1:05:20But all the doomers and gloomers too, like, oh my gosh, man, it's going to be a thousand degrees. The mosquito apocalypse, they're all going to get dengue fever. It was so cool that night, the weather, that I had to take off my jacket and give it to Paula. Like she was actually cold, but you know, she gets cold anywhere, but still it was not hot at all. It was nice.

1:05:39Dan Bongino:It was really nice. I had a handkerchief I never used at one time. But a couple other things I wanted to get to. I'm more serious, kind of switching gears here. So a big FBI terror interdiction, a breakup of a plot at the UFC. Drones, yeah, just great work by the Bureau guys. But one of the things that's really disturbing about the early reports you and I saw this morning broke into media was the class warfare component, collective guilt component. They want to target supposedly people who are taking money from APAC. target people who are quote millionaires and billionaires you know Vince the political rhetoric I know we've said it before but uh you know there's just this is not going to be the last time we see this stuff you know I this is definitely something you and I have talked about before and unfortunately we have to keep talking about uh this goes back I always think about uh when Teddy Roosevelt was shot in the early 1900s uh by a would-be assassin bullet hits him hits I I think his spectacles in his speech that are inside of his pocket, he ends up giving that speech with a bullet hole in his chest.

1:06:42Dan Bongino:And he says during the speech that the reason he doesn't know anything about the attacker other than this. The reason the attack took place is because weak and vicious minded people hear the words of his lying political opponents and then they act on it. And I think that's oftentimes what we see in these attacks. These are weak and vicious minded people who either take up arms or attempt to take up arms because they're motivated by lies. And and this, unfortunately, is happening very frequently at the highest levels, especially among these Democrats. You know, Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer standing on the steps of the Supreme Court, telling people that we have to go after Supreme Court justices.

1:07:22Dan Bongino:And then we get assassination attempts on them and Hakeem Jeffries and AOC, all this class warfare rhetoric. it has real life consequences. There are weak and vicious minded people. The left has a huge assassination culture that will attempt to take up arms and stage an insurrection, which is why the power of your words is so important. That's a biblical matter. In the beginning, there was the word. Words matter and telling the truth really matters. And if you lie, there's going to be someone who believes you. And if they believe those lies and act on them, man, that can lead to real chaos. You know, Vince, one particularly disturbing component of this is there doesn't seem to be any organized.

1:08:02I'm sure that, you know, you've got your outliers, your Fettermans, your Gottheimer and others. But there really doesn't seem to be any organized left wing movement to clean up their party out of this collective guilt nonsense. You know, they did it. The Jews, the blacks, the Hispanics, whatever. Collective guilt, meaning it doesn't matter. the fact that your identity is the melanin in your skin or your faith. It's not you, the individual, which is the exact opposite of what the United States is free republic stands for. But I don't really see an organized movement on the left to clean this up.

1:08:36You see it on the right. There's always this going to be this fight on the right where sometimes you get some more radical elements that creep up and do things that are not conducive to civil liberties. And we squash that. We always do. We fight against it vigorously. But I just don't see it on the left. And that's why I'm really, you know, I'm obsessed with history. I was thinking back, I mentioned earlier in the show, 1861, you know, Lincoln's first year in office. He comes in office. You know, the states secede from the union. You got Fort Sumter. They get in order to resupply. He's going through this whole thing.

1:09:10And he's like, my gosh, man, I just got in office. I feel if we don't get a hold of this or if they don't get a hold of this on the left, that this could get really, really ugly. And I'm not talking about like in the distant future. I'm talking in like the very close now.

1:09:24Dan Bongino:Yeah, this is why I think we need the Save America Act. I won't go through every detail. I've said it before on your program, but I just think that if we have election integrity, we improve the quality of both parties immediately. If the voters are actually listened to and their lives are the thing that you get power through, in other words, like you're rewarded for actually do for delivering to the voters, then it'll instantly improve both political parties. I'm confident of it. Obviously, priority one is return to God. I mean, we need a return to faith more than anything. But insofar as we have any human capacity to help make this a better system, I think we need the Save America Act.

1:09:58Yeah. And, you know, you see you're seeing it now. You follow social media. It's part of our job as well as I do. You see that left in the United States clamoring for a more a larger welfare state, kind of like the European model, the Scandinavian model, a soft socialism type model in some cases. Yet you see the Europeans coming over here, many of them filming around the United States at a Buc-ee's or whatever. whatever. And they're like, my gosh, this America is just such an amazing place. And I was reading a piece in the Wall Street Journal about the SpaceX IPO where, you know, if this happened in China, the leftists would be saying, oh, my gosh, look at how great the socialist model is.

1:10:41The biggest companies in the world in China happens in the United States. All they're bitching about is Elon getting rich when, in fact, so many people now have access to this public stock. So many millionaires who worked there early and took a shot on the company and took stock options instead of a big salary now got rich here in the great United States. And the left's bitching about it. If it happened in China, they'd love it.

1:11:04Dan Bongino:I got my producer, Josh, you know, Josh, he's right there with you in Florida. He's getting all cocky now because he invested a little bit in SpaceX. And now he's like Mr. Moneybags. He's like, tell me what to do every day. He's like, he's like, go get your own coffee. He's constantly telling me. I'm like, what the hell's going on around here? He's like, I'm rich now. I got SpaceX money. Yeah, no, actually, you know, it's funny. It's funny, which obviously would happen anyway, because we're like a thousand states away. But, you know, in in when it comes to this, no, a lot of people are being enriched by the success of this.

1:11:31Dan Bongino:A lot of people you can get up. Isn't it amazing that you can get a piece of the action? I didn't invent the rocket. I didn't invent the chopsticks that catch it, but I can get a piece of the action because I live in America and this is this is open to anybody who thinks that, hey, I believe in this and I want to support it. And also, to your point, even more directly, SpaceX, a lot of people that make that happen. It's not just Elon Musk. Elon Musk isn't hand-building the rockets, although my guess is he has more know-how than most people. No, he's got a team he's working with, and they've been working with him for a long time.

1:12:05Dan Bongino:And a lot of these guys, they own a piece of the action they have for a while. Now, they said this week that as a result of the SpaceX IPO, 4 ,000 new millionaires have just been minted at SpaceX. 4 ,000. Some of them are like welders who've been working there for about a decade. They own a piece of the action. They're now millionaires because of the project they've been working on. This is great. To me, that sounds like the best of America. Yeah, and what I don't understand is it's kind of like, and I hope to get this with the Iran deal and the Iran ongoing negotiations. I don't really, I can't negotiate or debate against a position that's constantly changing.

1:12:45You know, the reason, you know, we have a standard measure of measurement, whether we use, you know, inches, is because the inch is consistent. I can't say, hey, give me shoes that are 10 and a half inches if the inch changes every five minutes. Is it five and a half now, 10 and a half? And with the left, the Iran deal, they're pissed at Trump when he negotiates. They're pissed at Trump when he attacks. You know, I don't know what it is, but I see this with the IPO. a SpaceX IPO. The left is constantly barking about private equity. Oh, this small group of people are taking advantage of these massive technology developments and no one else has access to it.

1:13:19But you just said it accurately. It was a public offering, meaning anyone can go and buy a stock or 10 stock or 20 or 100 if you're wealthier, maybe more. Anyone can buy in. They don't have that system around the world. It's a small oligarchy of people who enrich themselves. And that's it. I mean, you think this is happening in the Soviet Union where they have this liquid stock market like we do? So I'm just asking the love, like, what's your beef? Do you want more private equity and people to invest their own money and take the risk? Or do you want public offerings where you're right, visionaries take the risk, but the public in turn can benefit from it?

1:13:55I can't debate you if you can't pick a position.

1:13:58Dan Bongino:Look, we've got the best system that's ever been devised for human flourishing. It's clear. Are there are there weaknesses and failures? Yeah, occasionally. and especially when it comes to proximity to government. Companies that really get in bed with the government often creates crony relationships that come at the expense of the free market. I don't want a rigged market. I just want a free market. That's all I'm looking for. And you've heard Bernie through the years say stuff about the big tech companies. And sometimes I'm critical of the big tech companies. I know you have been too. Like when they censor American citizens and their ability to communicate, especially at the behest of the government, that's a huge problem.

1:14:31Dan Bongino:And so is it legitimate to be skeptical of large concentrations of power. Yes. But the solution is not to create a greater concentration of power in an institution that has the United States military. But you know what I mean? Like Bernie Sanders solution to these big power centers is to concentrate all power into the most corrupt vehicle possible. It's insanity. It doesn't it's that path leads to destruction. And of course, that ideology has a body count, the numbers in the hundreds of millions over just the last century. So let's not do that anymore. That is such a fantastic point. I have been talking about that forever.

1:15:08How, what is your beef as a collectivist on the left? I mean, you want, is it against organized power that can be corrupted? Because yes, you're going to see that in corporate America. There's always corruption in any group of people full of fallible human beings. But you just brought up a great point. Like life is full of trade-offs. There's no perfect answer. There's no utopia. I'm sorry if someone told you that and read you some Aesop's fables growing up, but this is the real world dealing with fallible men and guardrails. That's what it's about, how to get guardrails on. You want to trade that concentrated power from companies, whether it's healthcare, drug companies, tech, or elsewhere, where you can actually get away from them in some respects.

1:15:47It's not going to be easy. I'm not telling you, like, you can just cancel your health insurance tomorrow, but you do have an option. It may not be a great one, but it's an option. You want to trade that for a government system where you can't get away, and they have a monopoly on the use of force if you speak out and the ability, by the way, to take your money through the IRS. You know how insane of an approach that is to life? Like, that's crazy.

1:16:07Dan Bongino:But this is why the left has to train people into believing that they're incapable of personal success, because the whole system is predicated on humans being given everything by the government. And that's why the left is fundamentally a destructive force. It's not a creative force. It doesn't believe in human potential. It doesn't believe in creativity. It doesn't believe in your personal capacity to succeed. It believes that money comes out of nothing and that we can just give it to people. And that's what we should do because people are not good. People are not capable. I just don't believe that.

1:16:39Dan Bongino:I think humans are full of potential. Most of us never reach it. And we should be doing everything we can to cultivate a system that helps people reach that potential so that they can take care of themselves and their family. Now, that's a great point. We're talking to Vince Cullen. He is the king of morning podcasting. Rumble.com slash Vince. Join us live chat at 8 a.m. Vince, exit question. The Iran deal, I mentioned before, it's just really difficult to negotiate against some of these people or debate some of these people on the other side because their position keeps changing. President Trump negotiates.

1:17:13I can't believe he's chickening out. President Trump attacks. He's a warmonger. Those are two completely opposite positions. Pick one, stake out a side. But another thing that's come up, too, is he's a Netanyahu Israel puppet. And then he does something Netanyahu doesn't like, which Netanyahu clearly doesn't like this, obviously leading the Israeli government right now. And you hear nothing from the same people like, OK, well, maybe we were wrong. Maybe he's not a puppet and makes his own decisions. It's just, again, just another example of the anti-Trump TDS. It's very real where the emotions have just kind of put a cloud over reason.

1:17:50and people can't just think this stuff through.

1:17:52Dan Bongino:It's just so crazy to me. So much of this is crazy to me. There are people have taken hardline positions on both sides of this. One of them is that, as you point out, that Trump is a puppet of Netanyahu in Israel. That's, I think every, all of the evidence is suggested against that. I mean, President Trump has to keep grabbing him by the metaphorical shirt collars and telling him to settle down, son. I'm navigating towards a deal that's going to be good for you and good for the world. Okay. On the other side, you've got people who say that Trump is being played like a fiddle by Iran right now.

1:18:21Dan Bongino:So which one is it? Is he a puppet or is he a fiddle? I don't think he's either. I think he's a guy who has figured out the levers of power. He spent a lifetime learning how to use them. And now as president of the United States for yet another time, he is navigating this in a way that no other politician has ever been capable of doing. This is no Obama deal. Obama was a weak little pushover who gave Iran everything to let them continue to pursue a nuclear weapon. The Iran deal allowed enrichment. This deal does not. This deal will not. Trump killed off everybody at the top of the government. Obama did nothing like that.

1:18:55Dan Bongino:Trump killed the entire ballistic missile production capacity of Iran. They were producing over 100 a month before. Now they're producing between zero and five. That's nothing. Even if we pulled up stakes today and we had no deal whatsoever, Iran is set back by decades in every meaningful capacity, military, economic, nuclear, all of them. And yet here he is signing a deal. And the fact that you have people crapping on him for pursuing this, when half the people were asking them to pursue it in the first place, and the other half are don't, you know, want him to like, I don't know, just get out of there.

1:19:31Dan Bongino:He's achieving everything. He's achieving everything. So why don't you sit back, take a breath. I tell people, keep cool, my babies, let the guy work. He's got a memorandum of understanding that's signed already. They did it electronically. They're going to do the ceremony this week on Friday. And and if you if your question is, who do I believe? Do I believe Trump or do I believe the Iranians? You need to, like, take your face and smash it into a bowl of water because that's insane. Like, that's that's insane that you're even going through that quandary right now. I'm not sure to believe, you know, I don't I don't know what you think of Lindsey Graham, Dan, but I saw him tweet about this.

1:20:05Dan Bongino:He's like, well, Trump's saying one thing and the Iranians are saying another thing. What are you talking about? You're weighing the Iranian side of this equation as equal to Trump's words. This is insanity to me. Everyone settle the hell down. Let the man work. He's succeeded before. I think he's going to do it again. Yeah, and it's not that there's ever going to be a perfect solution. And he always has military options on the table. There's an amazing piece in the Journalist Weekend about how Trump is just the transactional guy and the world's not ready for it. He's not trying to democratize the world anymore.

1:20:36We've given up on that utopian idea because it's not real. It's just not going to happen. There are some governments and systems of government like the Iranians who are just the Iranian people are ready for it. But the government is just not going to fold like that. We're not going to get some, you know, council of Mount Olympus like people who are going to merge in Iran tomorrow. And, you know, they quote, they're talking about how the old Athenians, the strong will do what they can and the weak will tolerate what they must. And the Iranians are just weak right now. and acting like they're in some kind of great bargaining position after their military's been just annihilated, their leadership wiped out, is just silly.

1:21:13I think you're right. Give the man a little bit of leeway here. He's made some bold decisions. Vince, thanks so much for joining us. I'll see you on your radio show next week. You had a huge audience this morning. His show is available on Rumble, the live stream, 8 a.m. You can watch it on demand anytime, rumble.com slash Vince. Go give him a follow today. You're going to love his show on radio in the 12 to 3 spot every single day all around the country. Thanks, Vince. Appreciate it.

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1:22:26I will see you back here tomorrow at 10 a.m.

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