Moment 171: STOP DOING THIS! It's Ruining Your Sex Life

19 Jul 2024 · 11 min

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Podcast Summary: Moment 171 - STOP DOING THIS! It's Ruining Your Sex Life

Podcast Overview Title: The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett Episode Title: Moment 171: STOP DOING THIS! It's Ruining Your Sex Life Guest: Alain De Botton, Philosopher and Thinker Description: Alain discusses the critical role of communication in improving sexual relationships and how underlying issues often manifest in a couple's sexual life.

Key Themes and Discussions

The Current State of Sexual Relationships

  • Statistics Highlighted:
  • A 2022 study revealed that 26% of people in relationships had sex less than 10 times per year.
  • 8% reported having no sex at all, indicating a significant decline compared to 2018.

Understanding the Root Causes

  • Mind vs. Body:
  • The discussion emphasizes that many issues in sexual relationships stem from psychological rather than physical causes.
  • Stored Anger:
  • Alain argues that unresolved anger, originating from minor disappointments and frustrations in daily interactions, can inhibit sexual desire.
  • Couples may not even recognize their anger, leading to disconnect.

Strategies for Improvement

  • Open Communication:
  • Alain recommends having honest conversations about annoyances with a partner to clear emotional blockages.
  • Suggests a dinner where partners ask each other how they have annoyed each other, fostering openness.
  • Childlike Understanding:
  • Encourages couples to recall how children react to small frustrations, highlighting the importance of expressing feelings that might seem trivial.
  • Understanding the Significance of Sex:
  • Sex is often a symbol of intimacy and love; when sex dwindles, couples may feel unloved.
  • Alain stresses that while sex is important for intimacy, it can be substituted with other forms of closeness.

The Nature of Intimacy

  • Intimacy vs. Familiarity:
  • The conversation touches on the idea that as couples become more familiar, they might view each other more like family members, which can dull sexual attraction.
  • The Importance of Novelty:
  • Alain highlights that new and novel experiences, akin to early stages of romance, are essential for maintaining sexual excitement.

Humor and Playfulness

  • Turning Challenges into Comedy:
  • The ability to laugh and tease about relationship challenges can transform the experience from a tragic struggle to a comedic opportunity.
  • Couples should strive for a shared sense of humor regarding their sexual difficulties, which can enhance intimacy.

Key Takeaways

  • Communication is Fundamental: Understanding and openly discussing frustrations can enhance both emotional intimacy and sexual relations.
  • Recognize the Impact of Anger: Identifying and addressing underlying anger is crucial for rekindling sexual desire.
  • Intimacy Comes in Many Forms: Exploring closeness through various means can alleviate pressure and enhance connection in relationships.
  • Embrace Humor: A playful attitude towards relationship challenges can strengthen the bond between partners.

Conclusion This episode of The Diary Of A CEO provides insightful perspectives on the complexities of sexual relationships, emphasizing the importance of open communication, addressing underlying issues, and maintaining a sense of humor. Alain De Botton’s reflections serve as a valuable guide for couples seeking a more fulfilling sexual life and deeper emotional connection.

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0:33I was looking through some statistics earlier on, because I know that you've talked quite extensively on relationships and sex and sex and relationships. I found this stat that says, a 2022 study by Relator UK -based counselling network found that 26 % of people in relationships were having sex less than 10 times per year and 8 % were having no sex at all. This is a stark rise from 2018, where the numbers were quite significantly lower than that. It seems like as a society, we're getting increasingly sexless. Yeah, so the question is, where's the problem? Is the problem in the body? Or is the problem in the mind?

1:14Now, being the kind of guy I am, I'm going to shift us to the mind. I'm sure sometimes there are bodily issues and they deserve attention too. But if I can talk about the mind, why is it that sex is easier at the beginning than in a long -term relationship? One of the leading answers is anger. It's not very easy to have sex or want sex with someone that you're angry with. And in many relationships, there's a lot of stored anger that neither party knows is there. And that anger has come from microincidence of disappointment. Someone didn't quite call when they said they would. Someone didn't laugh when they might have done.

1:56Someone didn't show generosity when it might have been required. And these things get stored up. And the result of too much of this is that you don't want someone going anywhere near you. Contents. Because you're furious. You're essentially furious. But in the way of these things, you don't know you are. You don't know you're furious. Again, the mind is not obvious to itself. So if you want to have more sex, don't just invest in candles and fancy linen. A quite useful thing to do is to go and have dinner with your partner and say to them, we're both going to ask each other how we've annoyed each other.

2:33Because we have annoyed each other, not because we're evil people, but because we're human and we're in a relationship and no relationship could survive more than an hour without a buildup of frustration. And the more we can let out that frustration at the dinner table, the more it won't create a blockage in the bedroom. And so the chance to discharge frustration. And often the reason why we don't tell our partners what our frustration's are is that they sound ridiculous. It's like, hang on. You're upset with me because I use the word really in what you thought placed too much emphasis on the why when I was speaking to your mother.

3:09Are you crazy? You are laying yourself open to your partner pointing to you going, are you crazy? But I think that we're all in love, very small children, at least a small part of us is. And as we know, small children get upset about really weird, tiny things. You'll move a button and they start wailing and you go, what's happened? And they go, you moved a button and you go, I did? Why does that matter? But for them, it matters. Pencil has slightly changed direction. So we should learn, we should remember what it felt like to be a child. And we should acknowledge that there remains even an adult who's very competent in all sorts of areas, a small child who is liable to be getting very upset about small things.

3:49Triggered. Triggered. But because they're an adult, this is the problem. We think an adult can't possibly be having such childish reactions. Again, we need to just cast aside our fears of shame and say, you know what? Yes. An adult can get very upset about tiny things. An adult probably is upset about tiny things and we're doing ourselves and honor when we can dare to reveal this to our partner and they can do likewise. So if I'm, if I'm someone listening to this now and I'm in a relationship where I don't think, it's interesting, even when I say I don't think I'm having enough sex, the idea of how much sex is enough sex has probably come from movies, which is a bit of a trap as well, right?

4:33But if I'm in a relationship and we are in a sexless relationship by whatever definition, the solution you've presented there is try and resolve the anger, the underlying contempt. Are there anything else that you think is effective ways of solving for that? Look, I think one useful thing to do is to go, why does sex matter? What is this thing called sex? Why does it matter? And when people get very upset, I think the answer tends to be that sex is a symbol of something very poignant and very delicate, which is my partner loves me. And the reason why it becomes such an acute issue is that they cannot hold on to the idea that the partner might love them and might not want sex.

5:15This is psychologically impossible. Now it is important to say, is this possible? It is possible that your partner both loves you and doesn't want to have sex. There could be other reasons. They're feeling unwell. So, and then we can ask ourselves, what does sex really aim at? Sex aims at intimacy. You know, we'll say they, you know, in people, so polite language, they became intimate, which means they had sex. So what we know about sex is that the really exciting thing about sex is not the sex bit, it's the intimate bit. It's the idea that someone is without their guard. You know, most of the time we approach other people with our guards on.

5:55And in this very rare and unusual thing we do, we meet another human being in a vulnerable state and this is such a relief from the normal limitations of life. And there are other ways of doing this. You know, sex is not the only way of doing it. So by understanding better what sex is, we can also have a chance to get some of what we get in sex in things that are not sex. If that makes sense. I had Tracy Cox on the podcast and she said something to me, which really stuck with me because I hadn't noticed it until she said it, which is this idea I've been doing I believe she called otherness, which is when your partner almost becomes like a family member or you start seeing them as like a sibling because they are in their sweatpants around you.

6:43And she made the claim, which I think I've read in your books as well, that in many respects that's the very opposite of the the spice that makes sex so appealing in those early days when it's new and novel and risky. And so she kind of alluded to the fact that love and sex were actually set on two different ends of a poll. Right. And again, compared to my theme, what does a romantic say? A romantic, romanticism tells us sex and love belong entirely together. But I think what you're saying and you know, what many of your viewers will know is that the relationship is trickier. And again, let's not torture ourselves about this.

7:22Let's get curious. And then let's communicate about this. And I think that look, a growing child has a paradox to deal with. And this is what Freud famously does no matter what you think of Freud, it's very useful observation really, that the child experiences love in the first instance at the beginning we will have no sexual connection with. Right. So given the debt that adult love owes to childhood, that sets us up with the problem when we as adults start to fall in love with people and start to build up relationships, which is that the more we get cozy with someone, the more we feel like we did a little bit with our parents, with things we're really cozy, which is oddly why people like going to hotels, why do people like going to hotels to revive a relationship?

8:25It's because the furniture doesn't remember you. The curtains don't remember you. You are, you're allowed to be for a chosen moment, somebody without history. And it's the history that is making intimacy hard because that history while it's knitting you together and making you emotionally close is also rendering sexual freedom problematic. And I think it's just we need to go very easy on ourselves for the fact that this happens. And what do we do about it though? We don't need to book a lot of hotel rooms, we need to spend a lot of time away from my partner. I noticed even that you're laughing, you're smiling as you say that.

9:05And I think that's partly the clue, when we come up against the hardest conundrums in life, having the tolerance of a sense of humor, a shared sense of humor, if a couple can turn the sexual challenges from a tragedy into something closer to a comedy. It's an enormous achievement. Think of teasing, right? There are sides of couples that they find really, really hard. Isn't it wonderful when a couple learns with affection to tease one another? They go, oh, Stephen, there's that thing that you do because you're a little nickname, cause you, whatever it is, you know, a little affectionate nickname.

9:43That's a wonderful moment because it means that irritation has been sublimated into tender, compassionate understanding for why someone is difficult as they are. So the best thing we can do with our irritations with our partners is to be able to tease our way out of them. And we may need to do this in troublesome areas like, like, it's an enormous achievement. If your partner can call you, you know, can go from thinking that you are an idiot to smiling at you and thinking, you're a lovable idiot. So, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going

From the publisher

In this moment, world-renowned philosopher and thinker Alain De Botton discusses how communication can lead to a better sex life. Alain says sex is like a mirror to the relationship as a whole. If something is wrong with a couples sex life, it’s usually a symptom of a wider problem. He says that a first step towards a more fulfilling sex life is reflecting on how you are as a partner. Being open about yourself in a relationship is the best way to create mutual trust, which means that you can ‘tease’ out any issue in a relationship. This then leads to being open with one another sexually.

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