Moment 178: They're Lying To About Low Fat Foods, THIS Is What They're Doing!: Tim Spector

6 Sep 2024 · 11 min

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Podcast Information

  • Podcast Title: The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett
  • Host: Steven Bartlett
  • Episode Title: Moment 178: They're Lying To About Low Fat Foods, THIS Is What They're Doing!: Tim Spector
  • Guest: Tim Spector, Gut Health Expert

Episode Overview In this episode, Steven Bartlett interviews Tim Spector, a world-renowned expert in gut health. They discuss the complex landscape of modern food marketing and the misconceptions surrounding "healthy" and "low-fat" foods. Tim Spector argues for a return to whole, unprocessed foods in their natural forms and debunks myths perpetuated by the food industry.

Key Points

Understanding Quality Food

  • Definition: Quality food is the opposite of ultra-processed food. It includes whole foods that retain their natural nutrients and are minimally altered from their original plant-based forms.
  • Examples: Nuts, seeds, and grains in unprocessed forms. Foods such as berries, vegetables, and extra virgin olive oil are highlighted as quality foods.

Misleading Food Marketing

  • Food Labels: Foods labeled as "low calorie" or "low fat" often contain artificial additives and replacements for natural fats, leading to confusion about their health benefits.
  • Packaging and Advertising: A high number of ingredients and aggressive marketing often indicate ultra-processed products. Consumers should be wary of packaging that overly advertises vitamins or health benefits.

Personal Experiences and Changes

  • Tim Spector's Diet Shift: Tim shares his personal dietary changes after realizing the impact of certain foods on his blood sugar levels. He switched from eating muesli with low-fat milk to full-fat yogurt with nuts and seeds.
  • Individual Differences: Tim notes that dietary responses can vary between individuals, exemplified by his and his wife's different reactions to eating croissants.

Personalized Nutrition

  • Experimentation: Tim emphasizes the importance of individual experimentation in determining what foods work best for each person.
  • ZOE Research: Tim's involvement with ZOE focuses on personalized nutrition research, highlighting the nuances of food beyond broad generalizations like "fats are evil."

Sponsors and Promotions

  • Me Undies: Offers comfort-oriented loungewear and underwear with a Valentine's Day promotion.
  • NetSuite: A cloud financial system that streamlines business processes, particularly helpful for scaling businesses.
  • ZOE: Promotes the Daily30+ supplement, offering a 10% discount with the code PODCAST10.

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  • Tim Spector's Website: [Tim Spector](https://tim-spector.co.uk/)

Conclusion The episode sheds light on the deceptive practices of the food industry and encourages listeners to critically assess food labels and marketing claims. Tim Spector advocates for a diet rich in whole foods, tailored to individual needs and responses, challenging the oversimplified rules around "healthy" eating.

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0:00This episode is brought to you by Me Undies. While Me Undies can't totally help your love life this Valentine's Day, they can offer you insanely comfy undies and loungewear to buy or gift. Me Undies has so many awesome Valentine's Day prints and styles. Plus, you can match with your partner, friends, or even your pets. This Valentine's Day, give the gift that'll keep them thinking of you and score huge sight -wide savings at meundies .com slash Spotify. That's meundies .com slash Spotify. Me Undies. Comfort from the outside in. Q1 is often when businesses start implementing new systems and processes in hopes of creating efficiencies for the year ahead.

0:36And over the course of my career, I've learnt just how crucial having the right systems in places, one which has helped me across many of my investments is NetSuite. They're also a sponsor of this podcast. NetSuite is the number one cloud financial system through their streamlined platform. You'll find all of your accounting financial management inventory and HR in one place. Their technology has been a real game changer, especially for my team at Flight Studio. As over the last year, we've moved out of startup mode and into scale at mode. We no longer have to juggle multiple systems and having everything together has reduced the number of manual tasks and errors.

1:11Over 41 ,000 businesses have chosen to future -proof their business with NetSuite. So if you'd like to learn how it can help your business, head to netsuite .com slash Bartlett. And free download the CFO's guide to AI and machine learning. That's netsuite .com slash Bartlett.

1:29I want to share something with you that I found to be quite game changing. If you're like me and always looking for new ways to add more plants to your meals, then you'll want to keep listening for the next 30 seconds. Because I've got breaking news specifically for you from Zoe, who sponsor this podcast, introducing Zoe's daily 30, which is creating a supplement revolution. Made from 30 plants, it's designed to be added to your meal of choice every day. No ultra -processed pills, no shakes, just real food. I just scoop and sprinkle it onto my breakfast every day, which is usually eggs and avocado.

2:02It's easy, seamless, and it's a great way to fuel my day. And the best part is it tastes great. And because it's Zoe, you know there's rigorous science backing it to, which I love. For my listeners, Zoe is offering an exclusive 10 % discount on your first order of daily 30 plus with the code podcast 10. Just go to Zoe .com slash daily 30 to get started. It's already sold out twice since launching in July. Join me and let me know what you think. Quality food. What is quality food in your definition of the phrase? It's the opposite of ultra -processed food, which is whole food, which is made from the original ingredients of plants, mainly plant -based, but it's not exclusively, that contains all the nutrients that those plants produce, without it being stripped away or boiled up or highly pressurized, deformed, and so they have to add in back those nutrients.

3:03So, you know, it's things in their pure form. So it's nuts, it seeds, it's grains that haven't been ground up super -finally. It's all the amazing plants and fruits and vegetables that we've got. They're healthy foods, but you know, it's not straightforward. Yes, I've got this list of 10 super foods. It's understanding that many foods that are healthy for us. Most of them are in their original form. Berries, nuts, actually every vegetable is healthy for us. If it's in that original form, it's only because we've, we had to learn to preserve things, we had to do trickery to make, you know, margarines and things with chemistry, that we've moved away from that.

3:57But, you know, going back, you know, olive oil, for example, is a great example of something that's been vilified often, because it has lots of fats in it and, you know, sending, I was done, they have olive oil and everything, it's horrible, it's all fatty. Turns out that's a, you know, it comes from the olive. The good stuff, extra virgin olive oil has very little done to it. And that is a good healthy quality food. But it can be refined, you can take that and you can keep refining it. You can take corn on a cob as an example. And then, you know, and then you've got, I don't know, tortilla chips or something down the other end, which bears or cornflakes, which bears no resemblance to the original.

4:46And they're all versions of the spectrum. God, it's so confusing, you know, because what you've said to me is, you know, based on research and studies, but then when I go to a supermarket labeling, even I just think in cornflakes, I think I grew up thinking cornflakes were healthy because it says corn in the title. You know what I mean? And it's, and when you're trying to navigate, I was just thinking, if I'm going down an aisle now, hearing what you've just said, that that quality food is food that is not ultra processed and kind of resembles its original form, when you walk down the aisle in the supermarket, everything is trying to pretend that it's good.

5:21So how do I know what is good? I mean, I can go to the vegetable aisle and I can say, okay, that looks like a cabbage. It looks like no one's messed with that. There's been no study done on that to, it hasn't been through a library. How do I, like, if I'm in an aisle tomorrow, how do I know what food is good and what is not? Well, you've said the first thing, if it's not in a package, you're pretty sure it's good. Okay, so if it's concealed in some package that's got, you know, happy children and signals of vitamins in it, that should be a warning sign. You know, the more they have to advertise the food and say what its additives are and everything, the more you should be wary about it.

5:59The number of ingredients is another pretty good sign. So once you get over 10, particularly if there's lots you've never heard of, you wouldn't find in your kitchen, you should also be wary that that is ultra -processed food. Anything that says low calorie, that says, means they've had to add in lots of artificial sweetness or protein extracts or something else is also a big danger sign. Low in fat means they've replaced the natural fat with something else that's cheaper. And these are all warning signs, you know, and you take breakfast cereals. I used to, I used to eat lots of breakfast cereals, I was brought up on them, highly sugary stuff.

6:44And then I thought I was being healthy when I moved to Moosleys and Pasha, Pasha stuff. But actually when you still, you know, that appearance of healthiness, it's still got lots of additives in it, it's still got lots of sugar in it. And there's cereal packets, have added vitamins in it, but they're often in a very poor form. I did the experiment once where I took some cornflakes or special care, I'm a member that said, had added iron. And if you mix it up, you can put a magnet on it, you can get off the iron filings. They're so cheap that they just added to tick a box, say it has iron, but they don't get into your body or do anything.

7:28So anything that's got these things added with this in it, low in this is a sign that they're obscuring the quality of the product. So it's, you know, but it's a lot of brain, you know, we've been brainwashed for years and decades in this. And, you know, I was as well as a doctor, you know, I should know better. And yet I've completely changed my, two of my meals completely. So I've gone from having Moosleys with low fat milk and orange juice and a cup of tea, because I did, you know, I started doing these tests for Zoe. I found out that gave me a massive sugar spike and was a terrible way to start the day.

8:15I've got these dips at 11 o 'clock to a high full fat yogurt, nuts, seeds, a few berries, and never have orange juice that's on my, that's a really unhealthy drink for everybody. And I have lots of black coffee, which I now know is good for me. So that's totally different. I changed my lunch for at least 10, 15 years when I got in the hospital lunch, which used to be in the canteen, then it was the marks and spencers, got a healthy looking sandwich with brown bread, sweet corn, and tuna, and a smoothie, you know, little bottle. And that gave me a massive sugar spike. And I wouldn't have known that.

9:03And I was told that should have been a healthy thing to eat. So, you know, there's general rules, but also there are specific rules, and this high idea of individuality is coming in. So it could be that you could, you might be fine on that. Don't know. I was very annoyed because when I started, we were starting doing this testing for Zoe, we had all these spare kits, and I gave my wife one as well. And we sit down and she's French Belgian and loves croissants, and so we'd have croissants each. Mine would shoot up. She had no change at all in her sugar, which is really annoying. But it also brings home the fact that, you know, everyone loves simplistic rules, but you can only get so far with them, you have to start experimenting yourself and see what works for you and not just take everything for granted.

10:00And that's really the whole essence of really, you know, setting up this personalized nutrition, research, and Zoe and everything else. But on top of this general advice about changing an idea of food, I think. Because I think they do go hand in hand, that if you realise, are these individual differences, you realise it's not as simple as you've been told, it's not at Fats -A -Evil, it's not that calories are bad, you know, it's much more nuanced.

10:34Q1 is often when businesses start implementing new systems and processes in hopes of creating efficiencies for the year ahead. And over the course of my career, I've learnt just how crucial having the right systems in places, one which has helped me across many of my investments is NetSuite. They're also a sponsor of this podcast. NetSuite is the number one cloud financial system through their streamlined platform. You'll find all of your accounting financial management, inventory, and HR in one place. Their technology has been a real game changer, especially for my team at Flight Studio, as over the last year, we've moved out of startup mode and into scale at mode.

11:09We no longer have to juggle multiple systems and having everything together has reduced the number of manual tasks and errors. Over 41 ,000 businesses have chosen to future -proof their business with NetSuite. So if you'd like to learn how it can help your business, head to NetSuite .com slash Bartlett and free download the CFO's Guide to AI and Machine Learning. That's NetSuite .com slash Bartlett.

From the publisher

In this moment, world renowned gut heath expert, Tim Spector discusses how to navigate the modern food landscape and overcome the brainwashing of the food industry. It turns out that answering the seemingly simple question of, ‘what is quality food?’ is a lot more difficult that it first appears. Too often foods packaged as ‘healthy’, ‘low calorie’ or ‘low fat’ are in fact the opposite. Instead, Tim believes we need to go back to eating foods in their simplest, unpackaged original form as nature intended.

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