will.i.am Opens Up: “I Would Have Had Children 10 Years Ago!!!” Guilt, Shame, Depression, Creativity & ADHD!

29:20When maybe that's not what you're supposed to do. Or maybe you weren't candid and forthcoming enough to make true understanding, to stand under the circumference and know the ledge of what it is you do together. You speak of almost like a recent epiphany when you say like realizing that there was this off button, even though you don't think the off -bent's necessarily there. Where did you sit now with the concept of finding a life partner and getting married and having kids and all that stuff? Is there work to be done? Is it finding the right person or is it an inward piece of work that needs to be done in your view?

30:01And is it something you want? I want to have kids. I'm going to be an awesome dad. If you were to ask me this 10 years ago, I would have a different answer. Really? Why is it changed? And what is it now? What was it then? That you don't do a family until you completed the ultimate. What my version of ultimate? My version of ultimate is to be able to be of assistance and help and provide and service folks that resemble the lifestyle that I lived, the hardships that I lived without having to ever raise money ever again. Ten years ago? Yeah, yeah. What I know now? I would have had a kid. You would have had a kid 10 years ago?

31:03If I'd know what I know now, yes. Why? I was moving too fast and I thought the only way to get up the mountain is to move the way I moved when I was at the foot hill to get to the middle of the mountain. And now that I'm up the mountain, you're thinking that I'm doing, I'm going to do it by myself still.

31:28And the purpose of me getting up the mountain was to take care of my mom. That was my motivation. That was my gas. That was my electricity. That was my energy. As to take care of my family, hunter gatherer to go out and bring back to the village. I didn't know what I didn't know then. Now that I know what I'd be able to get up to mountain with family and offspring to take the information that I have and pass it on. I have knowledge here. I have knowledge of my DNA. Who do I pass it to?

32:07If something were to happen to me. It's like different type of knowledge that you just don't say to someone. It's in me. It stored it to me. Somebody gave me this. Your mom. And my grandma. And my grandma's grandma. And my grandma was grandma. That person had a different life. A grandma was born in 1920. My grandma's grandma was born in 18 something. That means that happened. Wow. That person was working in the field and somebody's factory and some unknown company. But in America, just called it slavery. That wasn't that long ago. So, but that information was passed on to me, passed on to me, resilience, tolerance, hope, living in a different world.

32:56So your offspring can have a different life. I'm a recipient of that. But when you're hustling and bustling, you think that, oh, no, I got to wait to the ultimate. Was I wrong? Now that I could look back at my, he was wrong. But I was right, but still wrong. Would I be a, would I be further along in my journey? A little bit more organized? Yes. Why? Because something would have forced me to be organized. It's not just for myself now. Even though it was never for myself, it was always for my mom and my family. I would have had even more regiment. I would have had even more streamlined aerodynamics so that could, you know, cut through corners.

33:57And make tight returns, keep the downwinds. It would be a little bit more aerodynamic. So, yeah, nothing will stop you if you have kids probably just going to motivate you more, but I couldn't see that back then. But I'm going to be an awesome dad when I'm a dad. But I want to be a full -time dad. And I realize that I don't have to be the the the the the the juggler anymore. Before I had to do it all because the one really believed. And so I always had to prove I had to like be the creative understand business, sit in the business meetings, co -manage, come up with the artwork, execute the artwork, learn Illustrator, learn Photoshop, do the album artwork, hand it off to somebody else to fine tune what you sketched up, plan the tour with your manate.

35:05Like I had to do it all, but probably because a part of me didn't trust that someone cared as much as I cared. But now, I don't have to do it like that anymore. I've got to a point where now I could assemble teams and fun teams. Now, I'm the finance here. I don't have to worry about somebody's financing me. That's a different that's like that's an exhale. And so, but that exhale, when I'm a dad, I could be a I could be a full -time dad as my understanding of full -time, which I'll still be I'll still be working. Just not working the way I'm working now. I don't know I don't I don't want to work the way I used to work.

35:59Not anymore. Not anymore. I was a proton for the planet and then just going around the planet. The longest I've been home since 1998 was all of the majority of 2002 and then the majority of 2020, like everyone else. Outside of those two years, the longest that I've been in one place. It's been two months since 1998. I've got to go over two months, so you later be back two weeks. I've got to go and I've been doing that since I don't want to do that anymore. So, you're speaking to a change perspective and I'm wondering because for me in my life, there had to be a symptom. There had to be something I noticed where I go, do you know what?

36:57I'm doing something not right here. So, for me, I talked about it being that kind of almost this feeling of loneliness that I didn't realize was the feeling of loneliness. It was this emptiness in my chest. When you go to the office seven days a week and then you look at your phone and go, who are my friends? Who is my partner? Like, tuning out of survival mode, tuning out of that, and tuning into thrive. How do I thrive as a human being is what made me shift. So, really, I'm curious about the symptoms that you noticed in your life that made you go, I don't want to do that anymore. I never had that.

37:28Really? What do you explain? No. I had my best friends that I grew up with and we lived our dream to the highest level. Imaginable. Kids that were broke. Apple, my best friend who came from the Philippines, who I started black, I peed with. He comes from a province in the Philippines where he pumped water out the ground. He washes clothes on the riverbed. He farmed rice with his pet bison. He did, he experienced a different level of poverty. Taboo, single mom, his dad was in the gangs. And we started the black eyed peas and we lived the what? Wait, how do we do this guys? No one believed in us?

38:20Now we're playing Super Bowl's World Cups, multiple Grammys, taking care of our families. No bro, like this is the biggest blessing. One could imagine loneliness. How can I be lonely? I'm with my best friends. So why change? Because I live 10 years from now. I've always seen 10 years from now. Always. I don't know what it was, but when I was 13, I'm like, wow, I'm gonna buy you a house. How do I want to buy my mom house? Little off, I was 26. I wanted to do it. Why, I still did it. Then 10 years from there, I was like, my, how about everyone else in the, we still, the hour ants or uncles or my grandma were still in the projects.

39:14We're still going back to the projects on holidays. We need to do a whole accident. We're like, that's what you want to do. So we moved everybody out. And when I got everyone else out, I'm like, well, I got to go back to the neighborhood because there's people that we grew up with. And they have kids now. Start a robotics program there. Start a computer science program there so that when they, and a college prep program so that when they graduate college, they have skills that are needed. Not just same kids to college, so that when they graduate, they have debt and a diploma. So we did that. And there's purpose.

39:53So I want to be purposeful. So if I could see 10 years from now, okay, at some point in time, my 10 year looking around the corner, one day I'll be 70, one day I'll be Tom Jones, age, I'll be 80. And what I just stop. I don't pass it on. That's what happens here. No, that's not responsible. You know, that's not responsible thing to do. So you got to pass on knowledge. You got to pass on gifts. For me, it's a gift. The little kid on the bike. You know, have good intentions. I want to, it's all for the good.

40:56And I want to, I want to pass it on. You said you're living 10 years in the future or five years in the future. There must be a cost to that. When people talk, you know, spiritual people talk about what pieces and happiness is, they talk about presence. You strike me as someone from what you've said, that is my struggle with the concept of being present when you're five years in the future. And this kind of leads into a point where people talk about the tortured creative. That is like very, you know, cognitively active. How does, how does one square being a creative, that's living five years in the future with peace, happiness, presence, and calm.

41:36And what's your story in that regard? Like I said, we're assuming that proton, a neutron, an electron all should have the same role to make an atom. And actuality, they all have different roles. And the moment an electron acts like a proton, then an atom's not an atom anymore. So I got out of my predicament because I didn't live in my current reality. Had I lived in my current reality, I would still be in my reality that was constructed for me. So I had to live in this realm that was dreamt of. And my whole premise was to manifest that dream with strategy. So I had to, I had to live as if it was real.

42:37I had to live I already moved my mom out the projects. I had to live like this gang doesn't want me. I'm no use for this gang. Why even get initiated and be and live that gang life. Let me just keep wearing these suits because these suits that my mom made me as my attire for the world that I'm going to be living in. You have to live, if you live in some place that you know that you don't belong, you know you don't belong there. Why are you stuck in that? So in my mind, I have to have always been that way. Unfortunately, I can't change how my makeup is. So I'm constantly, if it got me out of that, it's going to get me out of this.

43:24And where we are right now, my native people that live in communities that reflect where I come from are still in some version of that. So in 2008, I started my foundation, started with 65 students. And my gut was like, yo, let me surround them with robotics and computer science skill sets. So I went out in the world, absorbed these skillsets, these tools, Jack Dangerman from Ezri, Matt Dean Kamin from Deca and first robotics, Matt Lorraine Powell jobs from College Track. My vision was to take these three independent entities to take them together to make a cluster, to give a new type of project based learning to kids.

44:1065 kids. That's 65 kids from 2008 to now. Now we serve almost 15 ,000 students in Los Angeles. We've sent kids to Dartmouth to Brown to Stanford to Georgetown. Because in 2008, I was living right now. I knew that because the way technology was going, that kids in the inner cities are going to be super conflicted with the way the world's going and the amount of jobs that are going to disappear. I thought I was just going to be like blue collar jobs. I think it's going to be white collar jobs. I don't think kids in the suburbs were going to be impacted by this new digital age. We've seen the last one, but this generative stuff?

45:03Yo, bro. Thank God we were doing what we're doing. Amazing engineers out of the inner cities of LA. Now we want to scale that. So 2030, yeah, I'm living there right now because it's still work to do. I was listening to one of your songs before you arrived here. It was very curious. What's wrong with my hands? Man, that's just lyrical. I think this one was called Be Nice. Oh, yeah, it's called Be Nice. When I started thinking looking into the song, looking about what you'd said around that song, you said, I was on a dip in the low part of a roller coaster. And you wrote that song because it helped you to change your vibration, but also to help other people change their vibrations.

45:56The dip on the low part of a roller coaster. What are the things in your life that have caused that dip in the low part of the roller coaster? I think men, but particularly black men, we don't always talk about our mental health or the dip in the low part of the roller coaster. So I was super. I thought it was wonderful that you made a song about that, but also you were speaking so openly about that. I was reflected on my 1993 18 year old. So that path was the hardest path that I've been my life. 18. 18 was the hardest because it was 30 years ago. This time, 30 years ago, it was March when I had I go.

46:50It was March of 1993 when I felt something that I've never felt before. Just like the distortion, I felt that's the perfect word for it. DisEs. And diseas vibrationally is diseas, like a disease on a vibrational level. Like the word disease, there's really diseas of molecular cellular where you're vibrating.

47:35There's no harmony or sense of your vibration in the field. I'm going to know how you look at it. And in this case, you have a vibration in thought. And I was vibrating off. And when you're vibrating off, you're dark. You're vibrating off, you panic, angst, your hyper -attention, your hyper activity is off tilt. And so from March till about August was a very, very, very turbulent time for me when I was 18. And there's nothing wrong with being emotional. And when you're creative, you're always sensitive, like you're hyper -sensitive. That's a part of creativity. Like you feel too much. And I feel too much.

48:31I empathize, hardcore. I'm the guy in the elevator that talks to strangers. I'm the guy that's like, I was walking down the street, came out of Tesco, so I was like, well, I am. I'm like, hey, what's up? I don't mean to bug you. Am I as cool? Straight up conversation for like 30 minutes with random strangers. I like that because I don't, I don't ever want to ignore folks that I could shed light on or they could shed light to me. You never know with little nuggets that you give or receive.

49:14So that song, that lyric was just remembering, reminding myself of like what that period was like for me. It was a very, very like coming of age. And I didn't have a man in my life, a father in my life to guide me through that. My mom did that, which probably made me even ultra feminine, which is no, I don't shame of being super feminine. You know, I remember in the 90s, we don't have the support in the LGBT community like now that we did them. So growing up in the 90s, we're like, are you gay? Like a lot of people question if I was, because I was feminine. I'm still feminine. I sit the way I sit, I act the way I act, my mannerisms or my moms.

50:13But it was a, it was a very, and I'm strong with my, my femininity. I think it's a superpower. But that, when you know who you are, when you, when you love who you are, how you are, how you vibe. That's what it's about. I like girls. Never was attracted to men. I'm attracted to females. But I'm feminine. Well, of course that chapter in your life. Do you know what? That, that, that dark chapter in your life was there a clear cause of distortion is a better word. Distortion that chapter in your life where you had distortion. What weed weed. Okay. Yeah, it was the, it's chemicals. You said shame and guilt as well.

51:06You said use those words. Yeah, I was shameful because I did something that I knew hurt my mom. Right. You know, like you were smoking and at her head hanging low, like, did I do a, what is my son out there doing? You know, but trouble is he getting into what is it going to lead to? I saw her panic. I felt her panic. I felt her worry. I felt her concern. Do you still, do you still have, have you had moments of distortion since? It's usually when you make errors, you hurt people indirectly, clumsily irresponsible. When you, when you let people down that you love, when I let people down that I love, I distort.

51:56Is distortion different from depression and your definition? Is there a difference? Oh, yeah, big difference. Distortion leads to depression.

52:09Like, let's take this water, right? And this metal cup. If I fill it up to the top, and I don't move this table, the water is still. No matter how I fill it up, it could be straight to the top. If you don't interrupt the table, the water is not going to spill. Distortion is when I start to shake the table. And if I shake the table fast enough, it could shatter the glass. It could crack it. If I shake this at the right frequency, that doesn't disrupt the table, but can mess up the object. Shattering the glass or obstructing with the form of this is depression. Shaking the table, causing it to spill is distortion.

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54:18Unfortunately, it comes with the territory of futurist futurism. You are experiencing something that hasn't happened yet. Because your imagination has already created plausible, like, realistic scenarios. And you're already filling the emotion. So that unfortunately comes with the territory of having a hyper -imagination and living over there. Doesn't that mean that you live in anxiety then? No. If you live in the future. Because once you're aware of that, then you know that's what it is. It's like the difference between the shower and the rain. People run in the rain and stand in the shower. It's a difference between bikinis and draws.

55:22People go to the beach when nothing on, but get afraid when you see them in their underwear. Expectations, right? It's expectations. It's like once you're aware of you getting wet, you ain't tripping. Once you're aware that you're going to the beach with nothing on, you're not tripping. So once I'm aware that I'm thinking over there, I don't have to have emotions there. So the moment I start having emotion for future casting, then I'm doing it wrong. The anxiety comes when it's things that are happening that you didn't control. And you're now having emotions because your imagination is now thinking of the outcomes of things that are out of your control.

56:13Now when you're future casting and you're seeing stuff, you are controlling looking around the corner. I am purposely looking there and then putting my imagination to work on thinking, what do I have to do now? Strategically, between now 510. FYI, FYI is Will's brand new app, which is launched now. And the whole purpose of FYI is to help create organized cloud -breaking and communicate in one place rather than having all of these different communication channels and digital assets spread across all of these different products that we might use today. I had this problem last night. I was on Monday over here to do list over here.

56:47I want Google Clouds over here, Google Sheets here. And when I opened up FYI this morning, I can see from where we're on the roadmap looking into the future, having all of that in one space, with AI as kind of the agent to power a lot of the knowledge work, I guess, is a really special combination. FYI is now available on the app store. I got it this morning. Everybody should go and check it out. And I'm really excited if you're starting here, what the roadmap looks forward for the future, because I can see the mission. So FYI .AI is like, we're at 1 .0. 4 .0? Do you understand how awesome of a platform FYI is going to be?

57:26It's also equipped with elliptical curve cryptography methodologies, because during COVID, NFTs and blockchain told us that protect your assets. And here's a key. But why is it the same type of key architecture and product structure? I commit not for my data on messengers. Why am I not giving a key to our own my digital assets when my digital assets are the data itself? Why is it just for NFTs and crypto? So on FYI, yes, there's messengers that are encrypted into in, but where's the key? If you're not issued a key, that the company itself doesn't have. We ensure that your data and your stuff is your stuff.

58:15What is yours is yours. How you speak is how you speak. And when it comes to AI and mimic machines, none of us own our face and none of us own our voice. I own the publishing to my songs. You could copyright and you could create NDAs to protect your IP. But when it comes to you, every human being walking in the age of AI, who owns our essence and our likeness? Then why aren't we talking about that enough? The Drake AI's, yeah, it was a buzz and it's still going to continue to buzz. But shouldn't Drake own his likeness and his essence? Why is that legal? Why is it legal that Biggie Smalls is wrapping a two -pock first that was actually about him?

59:06Why? I can't take a Nike swoosh. Nike owns a swoosh, but I don't own my face and my voice. Beyonce don't own her face and her voice, but Adidas own stripes. Something's not right for people. So as FYI grows, that encryption key, 1 .0 versus 5 .0, the vision that we have, what we want to go, how we need the community to help us get there, I want to build the People's Tool. I want to build the company that where people own their data. 100 % of it. I am not my identity to my driver's license and my social security number and my passport. I'm my data, I'm my searches, I am my freaking spell check, I am my voice, I am my facial unlocked with the machine.

59:56I am all that stuff. I'm my location on my address book. It could predict me, but why can't I have power of that? Why? Why? I could say I want to weigh 194 pounds by November 24th, 2024. I currently weigh 210 pounds. Which app would you like to use? You can't do that right now. There's no aspiration on GPS. And for aspiration on GPS, that means the system has to be mine. Not me have access to a system. I have a record deal because at one point in time, it was expensive to record. Now, recording is ubiquitous. Everybody could do it. So why do I have a record deal? So what is luxury when it comes to what's premium?

1:00:49What's the highest way of creating at some point in time, making films and recording music was the highest level of creating painting for the freaking for the for the for the monarchy or for the church was the highest level of creating. Now you could just do it on your phone, but the highest level of creating right now is build a models. The build models and compute expensive. So tomorrow people are going to be training their own models. It's an unheard of deal right now. We know the folks that are spinning out models of these companies. But soon, compute's going to come down and there's going to be new models that are going to be just as powerful as GPT.

1:01:39Some 15 year old right now is dreaming right now. When they're 25, that person is going to have his own model and his own company. And it's going to be morally sound for people in the communities because greed, not saying that the models right now are greedy. I'm not saying that, but watch what happens in 2023. We're going to be driven by love because the concept that we had and they're baking it off of with Terminator, that's not sustainable. That's not. That's fear. And if you're going to base it off of movies, then go Star Wars. Not Terminator. Star Wars. There's multiple models. There's multiple robots.

1:02:26They all speak different fucking languages. But there's Jedi's. And Jedi is a different. Yes, there was a dark force. Yes, there was sits, but there's fucking Jedi's. And if this is going to take us to where we are better humans to one another, then fucking bring it because we can't get any worse than we already are with one another. And I'm speaking that as a black person. We've seen what people can do to people. It can't get any more worse. So bring it. The optimism, bring it. Let's be better people. Let's love better. Let's empathize better. Let's freaking serve better. Let's care better. Right?

1:03:07Let's use the tool for that. Because if we're mimicking, that's what they're fearful of. People are fearful of what people do. Yeah. People are gripped by AI at the moment. They're terrified. They are excited. Where'd you sit? And if you're talking to those kids in the inner city about AI and what they need to know about it, what would you be saying? If I go to the inner city, I'm telling kids, hey, our whole entire life has been set up for us to fail. Our investment for education is, they undermined it our investment to where other neighborhoods are getting a bigger investment for education than us.

1:03:57The way they've zoned our communities, we have liquor stores next to check cashing, next to bad food, next to bad food. Our teachers are not being invested in to teach us the things that we need to learn. We have no financial literacy. So when we get our checks, we cash our checks, and then we spend it on bad stuff. Our understanding of money is to spend it to pay bills. We're not even taught to grow it. We've been set up to fail. AI didn't do that. People did that. Now, here's a tool for us to solve our problems ourselves now. Grab it while you can and we are now our own Calvary. Right? Because the people that are afraid are not the people here.

1:04:51We've already went through the worst and survived the worst conditions of life. Are these folks afraid? Oh, the ones that are responsible for our zoning, got it. Okay, cool. Now, let's build a better world. Let's educate ourselves with this tool. Let's understand that it is a tool. Let's understand that there's these biases there. Let's try to solve those biases. So that what is the ultimate dream? My ultimate dream is like, wow, we all know this wave. We see it coming. It could be good. Or it could be bad. It's going to be good when we're mindful of what our contributions are to prepare people for this wave.

1:05:38We have to prepare folks and we got to do information, inspiration, preparation, motivation and mentorship so that they can activate their creativity to unearth tomorrow's industries because this wave has got a topple. Yesterday's industry is today's industries. If you're a lawyer and you work at a law firm and you do redlining on contracts, that's not what you're doing in 2030. If you're at a accountant and you're counting, counting beans and penny pinching, that's not what you're doing in 2030. If you're a cashier at a retail, you're probably not doing that 2030. If you're a bus driver, Uber driver, a taxi driver, that's not what you're doing in 2030.

1:06:38Because you're seeing the construct of what tomorrow is now. You're dealing with machines that could go and pivot from subject to subject, go deep to subjects in ways that people can't. Writing songs, making pictures, mid -journeys, freaking crazy. It's the most amazing tool that ever like you, mid -journeys nuts. People that don't know mid -journeys a tool that uses text to create generative images of whatever you type in in seconds. So if you're a marketer, if you're like an artist that works for a brand, if you're an agency that works for brands, this technology is going to give super creatives agency.

1:07:24So why do they need agencies? Just the vast transformation and for hyper creatives that now they just need a new tool to help them like, oh, and just birth stuff, it's a new renaissance. The ultimate. It's the ultimate dream if you're preparing a section of the world whose problems have always been ignored to now go out and solve those problems with this tool. Are you using this tool to make songs? You know it's going to make better songs than you. It's Pac -Man right now. We are in freaking Super Mario Brothers. We even got the Call of Duty yet. This thing's going to make better songs than you Super.

1:08:21The song's out already. I've just talked about that in this podcast before that Drake song with the - No, but the Drake song still requires somebody to sing it. And then they layer a plugin over it to make it sound like Drake. Oh, I heard a song that didn't, I heard, yo, this new tech. It's out of here, but more importantly, I saw it in 2010. And my mind's I was like, oh, no, no, no, if I'm in this computer, that means it's computer. Wait, what? If I'm in the computer, making music, I'm not, I'm not a musician like Prince or Freaking Stevie Wonder, I make music because I can make the computer make music.

1:09:04And with machine learning, that means eventually the computer is going to remember how I made it to make music. And eventually just make it itself. Maybe even publish it itself. Maybe even not even tell you. No, no, no, no, no, like, say if you're making something on Adobe, you're also making Adobe smarter at creating records. So, you know, why does - why does Adobe eventually need the person hitting the buttons or with the ideas when it can learn from a million of those? And then it can also track the outcome. Does that become a smash hit? And it's going okay. So when they did this to me, you know, I mean, the film Oppenheimer's into cinema shortly.

1:09:45And the Oppenheimer was the guy who was in the World War was told to go out to make the nuclear bomb. And that is almost what I'm scared about in this current AI race where China or Russia or another country versus the US, they're all in a race to create the most powerful artificial intelligence system, but also to use it for the defensive purposes, but also attacking purposes, offensive purposes. And when an intelligence is 100 times smarter than the smartest human, that world is the world where I go. Do we realize what we're getting ourselves into? Is this another Oppenheimer moment where we create something that has the capabilities to destroy humanity?

1:10:26That's what I haven't figured out yet. But for everything that we create, a hammer, we don't make hammers. A hammer can kill how many, you know, a screwdriver, a vehicle, an airplane, electricity, lights, everything that we advance. The first caveman that found a freaking flame on a branch, imagine all the folks at some point in time when they first had a branch with flame on it, they're like, you can burn the village down. And some villages burn down. Burn down. Because that was the capacity of that weapon. The capacity of this weapon is it can think for itself and take down civilization. And that's the difference is like going from the hammer, which can probably take a couple people out, can't think for itself.

1:11:14And then you go right up to artificial intelligence where it has a propensity to be smarter than all of us. And, you know, if programmed with malicious intent, I like your optimism. Yeah, but at the same time, like, who's responsible for the people that are living in villages in Africa that are clearly living under an abundance of resources, but can't benefit from those, but is that AI? Did that? No, humans humans at that. So what you're saying is that it's not the AI that you're afraid of. 100 % yes, it's people. The people. It's the people. So maybe AI is to push us to love because we can't out logic logic.

1:12:00If will I am has it, that's what will happen. If Putin has it, I'm not sure.

1:12:07Like a hammer. Like if you would create something dope with a hammer, Putin might hit me with it. I would create something like MC Hammer. Yeah, exactly. Can't touch this. But yeah, we have a closing tradition on this podcast where the last guest leaves a question for the next guest, not knowing who they're leaving it for. And the person that's left this question for you, I think you know them. The question is, what would be your superpower if you were if you could be a superhero and why it feels quite so many ask me that. Yeah, I'll say it's recent aura. Oh, Rita, or that's she's my favorite.

1:12:43I love Rita, but she didn't know it was for you. Get the freak out. She just writes it in the book. I don't tell her who's coming next. Oh, wow. So usually I don't tell people who's written it, but I figured you might know her. So yeah, I've worked with her many years and recorded songs that we never released. But yeah, I love Rita. She was up there yesterday. She's awesome. It's going to sound super like cheesy or corny. I would be particle man. My superpower will be I could I can influence particles to vibrate harmoniously. Because that's the concept of love. It's when everything's vibrating harmoniously.

1:13:37And there's, uh, it'll be the ultimate superpower. Are you vibrating harmoniously right now in life and life at the moment? No.

1:13:55Because I feel too much. And when you feel it affects your vibration. And then it takes a while to make sense of what you're absorbing. You rinse out and you repeat. But in that process of absorb rinse repeat. You learn more about environments that you're in, people that you're around. And your curiosity, my curiosity, um, and search for knowledge. Like, why did I go to SIRN? I'm going to go next in two weeks. And then they send me emails all the time. Hey, Will, we're here. You're going to be in Geneva. You want to come down to SIRN. I'm just come see our, you know, advancements and learn more.

1:14:55I just like to know as much as possible. And when you, and my pursuit of knowing, um, cause of some distortion. Oh, there's nothing wrong with a little bit, Jimmy Hendrix. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of distortion. You can't just be consumed by it. Sorry, with amplification comes some distortion as you amplify. And to get the word out or to get the vibe out, you know, you just got to be aware of how you're amplified. Um, not turn up too loud or too fast. And that's, you know, double entendres on turn up. Um, but, uh, yeah. So no, I'm not, um, that would be a superpower is, but the name particle man's whack.

1:15:55Particle man. I can't say it. Yeah. So I'm a time. Yeah. But, um, yeah, vibration man. I was, I don't know, vibes man. I don't know. Yeah, um, super vibes. Yeah. Yeah, super vibes on a, on a particle level. That would be like soon as, as soon as a, as soon as a motherfucker wants to, fuck around and do some wild shit. He's like, zapping with some super vibes and change all to the particles because that's where we're all made of that down every molecule, every cell. Um, and if you could, and if you could put consciousness on a particle level, that's a, uh, it's a awesome sauce. Well, thank you.

1:16:42Um, in many respects, you are super vibes because you've created a lot of awesome stuff and you've brought, um, brought people's vibes into harmony. Certainly mine with your, with all that you've created with your art, with your creativity, walking through your studio, your office in Los Angeles was a real trip into a decade's time. It was a glimpse into the future in many respects. I remember looking at some of the stuff you'd created in there, the backpacks. And I remember all of these dope inventions that I saw in that space and to meet you, it kind of makes sense now when you talk about living in the future with that, of course, comes, um, a dish harmony, I think, like, and that's what you've, you've spoken to as well.

1:17:18I think a lot of creatives have that feeling of like, dis -ease. Um, I think it comes with wanting to bring about the future and that impatience that comes with all of that. I really do hope you find the, the personal harmony that you've spoke of, the, the, the next passing it on to somebody. I really do hope you find that because I think I do agree you'd make an absolutely incredible father. Oh, thanks. Because you're so, you're so lucky, you're so built on love, which I think is a real testament to your mother. Thank you. Thank you for being here today. It's a real honor to get to spend some time with you.

1:17:48You're someone that admired greatly for all of the creative reasons I've said, but also just as a human being.

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