At The Table with The Dice Tower - Columbus Days

27:24And Jetty's tweeted back, welcome. I was like, wait, what? How do they know?

27:31Julie:That's amazing. Life goals. Oh, that's awesome. Yes. The food was obviously fantastic. They're still doing construction on the parking garage in front that is now. what was the front of the North Market, so you go around to the other side of the North Market to get to North Market. But it looks like they're coming close to the end of the parking garage. So another couple years and they'll be all set. Exactly. Before we end this segment, I want to know how much you sinned. Not the Jenny's ice cream, but how many games doth thou boughtest? Any predictions on that? 27. Well, no, I'm going to be lower than Eric because, okay, are we including games that you somehow finagled like trading?

28:27I mean, just acquired. Is the word acquired or bought? Because those are different. Actually, if we go with, I didn't acquire that many.

28:38Julie:I bought most of them. Oh, that's fine. I'm just saying, are we including it? Okay. Eric's at 27. I'll go 15. But Julie was driving, so there's plenty of cargo room. Yeah, but I'll say 15 anyway. All right. Okay. Just as an addendum, what was really fun is when you cut your hair, and this is the first convention you've gone to after you've cut your hair very short, and you wear a mask a lot of the time, nobody recognizes you. Ah, incognito. So Tom, cut your hair. Yeah, yeah. Or grow it out. I'm just going to get, I'm going to lengthen it. Extensions. We'll get you a fun mustache. A big... Purple wig and cartoony mustache.

29:21Julie:There we go. Can we cut a foot off my height? But all right. Yeah. So no, I bought most of my games, but there were a couple there at the end. So if we include all of them, the answer is 28. Hey, who's right? I get first place twice. All right. Second round. Bonus round. How many have I played so far? Two. None. Oh, ye of little faith. Eleven is the answer. Oh! Well, wait, wait. Are we including that you played them before you bought them? Yes. Well, okay. I can't have to die. It was a trick question. You were robbed of victory. Full plays. I'm not counting demo runs. Full playthroughs. Right.

30:10Julie:Eleven. and we're going to hear about some of them in a little bit sweet well I'm glad you had a great time I do miss Origins I would love to go back someday but it's just in the middle of everything right now questions questions questions all right we got a few questions here from Gordon the first one's just straight to me he said I've been catching up on podcasts binging it really thank you I like when people binge. Thanks for binging. He remembers once upon a time that I said, Race for the Galaxy, I only want to play it with people who know it already. If someone said they didn't know it, you'd find a way to back out.

30:51But in the past few con episodes, you said you love teaching it to new people. What changed? It's definitely – Oh, hard-hitting journalism.

30:59Julie:It's definitely – No, but it is a change for me because – Explain yourself. We did a top 10, like top 10 games I don't want to play with noobs. Yeah. But like games I'm like, ah, you don't know how to play. And Race for the Galaxy was one of those. I think it's changed for two reasons. One, egotistically, I've gotten very good at teaching it to new people. But two, and a bigger one is it's an amazing game that so few people have played who are new to the hobby. And I'm talking – when I say new, I'm talking about people who have joined in the last 10 years. Yeah, five to 10. And I love teaching people games they haven't played before that are also not necessarily the new hotness.

31:40So that makes me happy and that's why I teach it to new people now.

31:46Julie:Do you teach it to new people with a table full of people who know it or is it an entire table of newbies? I am actually pretty adamant on that. Someone sits down. I'm like, have you played before? Yes. Get out. not necessarily this is another whole topic but i have found when teaching people a new game i would i i like when they're all new yeah because i've had so many experiences i just had one at a con a few months ago where someone came and said oh don't worry i already know how to play and i was like uh these people backseat teach they tell people what strategies to do yes Or they'll crush everyone at the table and it's like, ah, you're just being a pain.

32:31And so I would rather everyone be new.

32:34Julie:I actually had that experience with race, with one new player and the rest of the table knew it. And one of the players was doing that. OK, explaining all the strategy that went into everything when really he just needed to know the basic rules and just explore on his own and not or develop or whatever. You know, you choose your role. And explaining all that strategy was just so overwhelming to him that he was flustered and couldn't really do well in the game. So I absolutely agree with race. I think it's good not to have maybe one shark at the table that knows to hold back, but really as few sharks as possible.

33:13Yeah, I mean, just recently, my wife, we ran a gaming event at our church and my wife was teaching Ticket to Ride. So I went by, as I always do, and told her to calm down. This was before the game even started. I was like, please do not murder these people. I want them to like gaming because she is so sharkish at Ticket to Ride. And so I looked over later, and she was like in agony because she was trying to not kill everyone. And she won by two points, and she was like, this is so hard. I'm like, oh, come on.

33:48Julie:That's the next level of skill in game playing. I firmly agree. It's a new challenge. Yep. He also asked a question. He said he was talking about a race. Someone was talking about a racing game where you catch rides on planets to get ahead and you can reverse the orbit direction of the planet. This game is called, well, Orbit. Orbit. Orbit, yeah. So he says he loves when a theme really matches gameplay, and that kind of disconnect bugs me about that game. He also mentioned another game, Blueprints, a dice stacking game, which is, by the way, a really terrible game. I love Blueprints. I still have it in my collection.

34:25It's so awful. But anyway, when you get the Blueprint card and stack your dice like the tower is shown, except you don't have to match the Blueprint exactly, and that's not how Blueprints work. And since he's a professional in the architecture industry, this annoyed him, so he rated the game a one. Does this thing bother you too? And so what he's asking is when there's a rule for the game and it might make the game a fine game, but it kind of ignores common sense thematically. Oh, yes. Or is he being overly sensitive?

34:59Julie:No, but it depends on your particular approach. This usually happens when somebody is an expert in something. If there's a game about your job, you're going to be more nitpicky about something. Or what's the knitting game? Arch Ravels is the name of the game. And my wife despised it because at the end, you get bonuses for getting rid of your stash, for having as little yarn as possible. And that is not the point of knitting. No, it is not. It's about hoarding. The point is to acquire yarn. Hoarding all the yarn. And so nobody, I mean, it's like this maybe admirable goal to use the yarn you have, but to completely eliminate your stash is unheard of.

35:40Julie:And as soon as she heard that that was a goal, she's like, no, no, no. You're going to house rule that. But also I agree. As somebody who doesn't – I learned how to knit when I was very little. I don't do it very often. If I sometimes casually mention that, people bring me yarn. You've got to be careful with that, yes. Right. You do. I don't want yarn, everybody, out there. I don't want it. So, yes, that does thematically. And I get that, you know, blueprints, you don't get points, though, if you're not exactly like the blueprint. You lose points for it. But yes, in real life, if you didn't go with the blueprint, the whole building could fall down.

36:21Julie:The building falls over. So I understand. It is a very light overall theme. Like, they're very loosely tied together in that game. So, yeah. Perhaps try Piridice. yes actually that's a good game but yeah this will happen in games and I get it if someone's if that's your thing and you're like this is not how it works yeah just play a game you don't know anything about and then you'll be fine pick a topic where you're less thematically invested in real life in the same ticket to ride game one of the guys was like I worked in the train industry for 20 years I don't know if I can play a game about trains I was like good news for you this has nothing to do with trains basically.

37:04It's a deal with trains. Agreed. So he ended up playing it and enjoying it. Oh, good. So go figure. All right. And then his last question from Gordon is, what's your most heartwarming fan interaction and most awkward fan interaction? So while you guys are thinking, I know my – for me, the ties for heartwarming, I really appreciate very much when someone comes up and talks to me who is a recipient from the Jack Bass Memorial Fund. That very little can beat that. That is fantastic when someone comes up and says, your friend helped me in my time in need. And I put a face to a name and it really I really like that.

37:47That's tied with I've had this happen, I think, three times now over the past 20 years or so where someone has come up to me and said, I was a student of yours 20 years ago. and now I'm in gaming and you were a good teacher, which I care more about than, you know, about if they like it. And I really like that, you know, that's because you forget kids, you know, you forget everything because we're getting old, right? We forget stuff, but that, you know, I still cry at the end of Mr. Holland's opus.

38:23Julie:Yeah. But most people are not going to have a whole crowd of people tell you you were a good teacher over your life. It just doesn't happen. So the people who do, it makes a big deal. In fact, if you're listening to this and you've had a good teacher in your life, tell them. Nice. But yeah, those are my most heartwarming. Awkward, I've had several times now people like, hey, you want to get a picture? And I was like, could we leave the bathroom first? Oh, no. Yes, raise his hand. Oh, no. Yes. At Disney World, by the way. Oh, no. But I mean then there's been some awkward ones which I'm just not going to mention here because I'm not trying to mock people or make fun of people.

39:06But sometimes it's just – I think sometimes people think they know me more than they do.

39:13Julie:Yeah, parasocial relationships are a thing. Yeah, and so that could be awkward. But I'll just say the bathroom one because that's a funnier one. Fair enough.

39:26Julie:I've got a few. Julie, you want to go in front of me? Sure. so so fan interactions for me when a kid comes up to me and you know there have been so there have been several from the dice tower who have come up and it's usually like 12 or 13 year old who are just it's just like the fact that they listen is great the fact that they're you know they they at least started I'm sure because their parents were like hey I'm listening to this and they want to do it as a family thing to include them, but that they want to tell me in particular that they enjoy listening. And I think that's delightful. It makes me happy every time that there's new generations who are still going to play board games.

40:15Julie:That makes me happy. But for the same thing from the publisher side, specifically when little girls come up to me and talk to me about being a pub board game publisher. That's cool. Gets me every time. All in the field. And like really little, very young sometimes. And it makes my heart happy. Awkward. Same thing, but make it weird. When I was in a, I don't know, Payless, DSW, a shoe, bargain shoe store, trying to find shoes for conventions. So I'm looking in the same section that like waitresses and nurses, like big thick soles because you stand on. So it's not, you know, I'm not doing anything glamorous, mind you.

41:04Julie:I'm trying to find shoes that will stand up to walking around on concrete all day long. And the young person working there came up and said, can I help you? Are you a waitress? And I was like, something like that. I stand at conventions all day long. So it's the same kind of effect. And she said, what do you mean conventions? And I explained it. And then she said, wait, what do you do? And I said, I'm a publisher. And I said my name. And she said, it's you. You're doing it. You're living the dream and screamed it. And everybody in the shoe store turned and stared at me. And I said, thank you so much.

41:42Julie:And I left without buying the shoes. I was mortified. So... Well, you're living the dream, at least. Yeah, I'm living the dream. And I appreciate the admiration and enthusiasm, but in context of space and also having to then buy shoes, I couldn't do it. So that was the most awkward for me. How about you? I love it. This isn't quite as extreme as hearing from the Jack Vassel Fund recipients, but to hear when people have a job that we have kept them company through. They've got a very repetitive job or a lonely job, and so they put us in their earbuds, and we have sort of kept them company during some period.

42:31Julie:Or they were bedridden for a time and listened to a whole bunch of podcast episodes, and so we feel like the friends that have carried them through something. and hearing about that is really, really nice to hear. I appreciate that. Awkward. One time at Gen Con, somebody came to have me sign a copy of a romance novel that I had narrated the audio book on, which is great. This is something that, you know, I appreciate somebody has enjoyed my work, but also the rest of the Dice Tower team was there and heard this. And so you got people taking pictures. My face is turned red. I am signing this person's.

43:10Julie:book. And you know that they've listened to every word I said in that book. Yeah. Which is, which is great. Thank you. I appreciate that. That is my job. Um, but it's just a little weird because I'm in one sphere and suddenly, Hey, I listened when people come up to me and say that they've listened to one of my books, usually I'm very happy, but there's this wariness like, Oh, which book did you listen to? Oh, it was one about camping. Oh, great. Great. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Great. I just don't know if it's going in that direction right away. So, yeah, that was my most awkward. Legit.

43:47Julie:Let's talk about some games. Let's do.

43:54Julie:They say that every rose has its thorn. But not every rose has a hula hoop. Shall I go first? Please. Go for it. All right, this is one Tom talked about not too long ago, but this is, I think, just hit release, and so I got a review copy of this party game called Shapely. This is from R &R Games. Shapely is a game where you're creating tableaus, I guess, out and trying to get your team or the rest of the table to guess words using random shapes. There's a bunch of these magnetic wooden pieces that are blobs, basically. There's very little, and they're all unique. So you're given four of these to start the game, and you're given a magnetic piece of cardboard that is your easel, basically.

44:42Julie:And in a round, you're all going to be given a word, and you flip up the word, and you're trying to make an assortment of shapes that'll get everybody to guess the word. Based on how quickly you complete that tableau, you will then put your token out on a turn order track. The farther you go forward in the turn order, the more bonuses there will be. There might be extra points. There might be more shapes for the future. You might be able to draw an extra card, so you're picking from two cards in the future instead of just the one that you're given. And also, you're going to be going first, because once everybody's done, you take everybody's cards, add two.

45:16Julie:So there's two new random ones. Those are all shuffled up and laid out on the table. And then you look at player number one. They're getting bonus points, but there are eight. If you have a six-player game, there are eight words out on the table. Here's my picture I made. And then everybody guesses what they think, which word they think that is. If they're correct, you get one point for each correct guess. And the players that guessed will get one point as well for their correct guess. Then that card is removed, the one that was actually the answer. And now the second player is only dealing with seven words.

45:47Julie:Here's my picture. Which of these seven words is that? And as you go down, you might not get as many bonuses, but there's only going to be three, four, or five words on the table. much easier for you to guess. Tom explained this last time, and I sort of went, ah, that sounds a lot like Glyphix, which is a similar, using yellow shapes to make stuff, but I do like this better. I think the speed of the game is a little bit more interesting, and I like that. Do you go really fast and try and claim a particular turn order? Do you acquire extra pieces because you're going to lose one of the pieces each round?

46:23Julie:I forgot that part. At the At the end of the round, you have to lose a piece unless you've managed to gain one as one of your bonuses in the course of the scoring round. So if you take a couple of rounds to get more pieces or more cards, you're in better shape and have more choices later on in the round. Or do you just go for the first place extra points every single time? And you know those are guaranteed. I like those choices for a quick puzzle party game. This was a hula hoop. I didn't think I would enjoy it as much as I did, but it's solid and will probably knock Glyphix out of the library.

46:56Julie:That's Shapely from R &R Games. Cool, cool. The second for me is that my son, I've mentioned, just has graduated from high school and is off to college in mere weeks in the end of August. He's going to be heading off. And one of the things that he said he wanted to do before leaving is to replay Mice and Mystics. Mice and Mystics is Jerry Hawthorne's first story game about a bunch of mice or actually humans who are magically transformed into mice to save the castle from an evil witch. It is scenario story based. It uses these tiles and a dice system and minions and lots of minis. And it's an adventure.

47:36Julie:The highlights of this game that are still highlights are the writing. Mr. Bistro did the writing on this game. It is delightful to read through this. When I first did this with the kids, it was this was story time. and we sort of did this as a bedtime story to play scenarios of this and work our way through it. We did the first box. We did the mini expansion. We made it slightly through Downwood Tales before other interests got in the way. So my eldest wants to play all the way through the whole thing this summer. Downsides are that this certainly shows its age, that this being Hawthorne's first design, there's a lot of swingy dice rolls.

48:17Julie:We've had some adventures where we just get totally destroyed because there's this cheese wheel track that if it fills up, bad stuff happens. And any time the minions roll cheese on these dice, it's one out of the six faces. It's going to put cheese on this cheese wheel. There are ways you can remove it, but not a lot. And if you just get a bunch of cheese, suddenly you're dealing with spiders and centipedes and giant cats that you did not expect. And everything advances and you die. I forgot about the cheese wheel. And then you have to start over, basically. And it's really hard after you've fought your way through five tiles to die on the sixth because you just get sniped by an entire group of elite rat warriors.

49:00Julie:And then you have to start over and you lose your equipment and you have to reset. And we've had to reset a number of times. So this is a thorny rose for me. I'm enjoying the replay. We're going to do it. I'm delighted to sort of relive these adventures. but there's just a few pointy edges and I wonder what Jerry would do if given a second edition of Mice and Mystics. I would love to see how that played out although I think if you asked him he might say well it's one of my other more recent designs it's Aftermath or um or Familiar Tales or something like that that it's got the cute animals and it's got the little small people in a big world thing but it just has more smooth mechanisms but Mice and Mystics still the setting is so cool and And the writing is so cool.

49:46Julie:And it's really fun to just get through, you know, work your way through this adventure. I just wish that we weren't having to restart so much. Anyway, Thorny Rose, Mice and Mystics. What about you, Julie? I'm going to start with Soothsayers from Play to Z. I will say this is a rose. And it wasn't just a rose for me. So I went around one of the days with Jennifer, who I play games with when I'm in Columbus. And it was a rose for both of us. And it was the one game that I think we were both getting equal amount of enjoyment from. So Soothsayers is a tableau. You start with level one cards of each of the four suits in a tarot deck.

50:30Julie:And each one does a different thing. You either can earn, draft, ascend, or capture. So you're doing those four things when you choose on your turn. and you're picking one of them and you're doing it at the level that you're at. If you are a lower level than another player in that, you're going to have to pay them to be able to do it. So you're trying to stay at the same pace as other players so that you're not losing your coin. um you as you level up so you're doing that by either drafting or um capturing and capture is taking the bigger tarot deck cards if you're the in the lead as the highest level you get the tokens that they have that are the the seer kind of tokens and if you get to seven of them you win the game.

51:27Julie:The strategy of it is trying to anticipate what other people are going to do because it's an ever-shifting number because you're trading back and forth the win tokens. So trying to get seven and be the highest, which you can get again by being the highest level or straight out purchasing them if you have enough coin and it gets more expensive as you go. So yet a very challenging thing to pay attention to what everybody's doing, level up the right thing at the right time. And for both of us, we had the most fun playing this game. So that is my rose. I guess it's been out for, I mean, not super long, but it wasn't a new release.

52:12Julie:So I think it didn't make any waves when it came out, but I think it's something that people should definitely take a look at. Diamond in the rough. I know. Then my hula hoop is the Friday Fright, which is from Grand Gamers Guild, one of the 18 card mystery games. I got all the new ones because I always get all the new ones. This is 23 of her game sheets. Yeah, this is like several of the 28 games. Correct. They're small. They could fit in a pocket. Well, yes. also that uh and of the four that i got i've played three already uh but this one is so this is my hula hoop because i have already i'm on the record of not being good at any of this i just am very fond of playing them and this was a level three like the hardest level and i felt like i did really well.

53:14Julie:So really quick, when you play any of the mysteries, there are 18 cards. You flip the first card, it gives you a mystery. You try to solve it. You go online and you type in the keyword that is the answer for that question. And there's a degree of difficulty. So they have an easy to hard Friday Fright, maybe it was the theme. So the answers were all about horror themed and the gameplay was all horror themed that maybe I just you were in tune knew the vocation right I was I was in the zone but I played through this so much faster than I usually do which is not saying a lot for for anybody else playing just so we're aware so it took me about an hour and 15 minutes the harder ones usually take me longer I didn't have to ask a lot of questions I ended up going through them because I always review to see like the clues, whether the clues, the clues are great.

54:15Julie:Yeah, what the clue system was. I thought the clue system was delightful. But also, so you get through the 18 cards and usually at the final card, there's another twist to use the back of the cards kind of thing. And I blew through that like gangbusters. I loved it. I had a great time doing it. It was super fun. thematically. Again, it's a spooky one, but it's not super scary because, again, it's a pocket game. But super fun. I enjoyed it. But also, I felt a little, maybe a little too full of myself that I'm getting better at it. I didn't because I played another one that was hard and it crushed me.

54:56Julie:But that was my hula hoop. So, The Friday Fright. I love it when you notice some detail on the back of these cards or in the corner of these cards and then that comes back and you're like, yeah, I knew it. I knew this was important. You feel so smart. And it definitely had those. It definitely had those moments. And yet I missed the same context clues on the other really difficult ones. No, you miss it. You feel not as smart. So there we go. Those are mine. Tom, how about you? Alrighty. Well, Flip Voyage is a sequel to Flip Town. Oh. which so I knew I was going to like it you know straight out of the gate Flip Town is one of my favorite roll slash flip and rights this is the same thing in some ways but it's also a very different game it is a game about you are a crew member for Captain Nemo and you're doing stuff in the ocean I don't know if you're like Captain Nemo the second anyway each person has a big board and on your turn you flip over three cards from a deck of 52 cards it's a little weird thematic disconnect i think because the cards made more sense in the western game but whatever you flip over three cards one of the cards you're going to use to move your submarine around on this board and when you cross lines you get bonuses and get to do all kinds of cool things and the other two cards you take the suit of one card and the number of the other and you get to do an action on a board somewhere there's a bunch of little mini games that you're playing, whether you're sinking enemy ships or you are discovering islands or things like that.

56:34And it's a big, wonderful conglomeration of stuff. Is it as good as Flip Town? It is not. Is it easier than Flip Town? It is. This is the one I think I would introduce people to first. Incidentally, Flip Town has an expansion, which is also fantastic too. But anyway, Flip Voyage, very, very fun. This is, I love this concept. You're doing all these cool things, drawing on boards. And I think the theming of the Captain Nemo type stuff going on is a lot of fun. So very enjoyable game. A Rose Flip Voyage.

57:10Julie:I'm disappointed it's not a sequel to Flip City, which is a different game entirely. Yes. I was confused. Now I'm thinking, because I don't want to get these games mixed up here. No, I think you're right. I think Flip Town is what you were talking about. Flip City was a deck building game where you could flip the cards and they go in your deck flipped over. And that's not the same thing. Flip City is a very good game. Flip Town is an amazing game. Have you not played Flip Town, Eric? No, I don't think I have. Oh, this is one you should consider playing next week at Dice Tower East. Flip Town is one of my favorite flipping games.

57:48Like I said, you flip over these three cards, and you use the suit of one and the number on the other to do some action on your board. And then the third card you keep as part of a poker hand that you will score at the end of five rounds. Oh, yes.

58:03Julie:Okay. But Flip Voyage is also there. They're both good. And they're also very different. They use that same base mechanism, but they play differently. So don't feel like if you have one, you don't need to get the other. Gotcha. All right. The next game I have is Tomatos. Tomatos. Tomatos. Tomatos. This is from Korea Board Games. The designer is MinJK. I believe this is their only design. And it's based on a festival where people go around and throw tomatoes at each other, which whether you – some people hate tomatoes. Some people like tomatoes. But it sounds like a fun, if messy, thing. I would participate.

58:48I would like to go throw tomatoes at people. Well, assuming they are in on it, I'm not like in an audience sitting there going, I can't wait until Eric messes up. Uh-huh. No, but the way this game plays is pretty fun. You're taking some actions on your turn, and these actions are mostly collecting cards. So you're collecting different numbered cards, and then you're going to fulfill cards at the top. So a card might say, have two cards that equal 10. So if Eric plays a 4 and a 6 from his hand, he will claim that card, and he will get four points. But wait. What if Eric wants eight points instead of four?

59:29You could still do the same thing, but one of the cards you draw has to be off the top of the deck. So Eric draws the card off the top of the deck. It's a 5, and in his hand he has a 4 and a 6, and he goes, well, it is what it is. I guess I'm doing something else this turn. and you don't get those points. So there's this weird little push-your-luck aspect where you can go, well, this one says you need three cards that are greater between 7 and 11, and I have a 1 and a 4 in my hand that's 5, and I feel like no matter what I draw from the deck, I'm going to get in between that, and you draw a 1.

1:00:10So I find this to be a lot of fun. It's not a heavy strategy game at all. And some people are going to go a little annoyed at probably if you push your luck and you do well, you're going to win the game probably. But it has really nice components, a lot of tomato-y drawings of people, little anime characters getting wailed on with tomatoes. Yeah, it's pretty fun. I don't think it's everyone's cup of tea. I just want that to be clear. But I found it to be enjoyable. So that is Tomatoss. alright so Eric how many games are you going to play next week

1:00:48Julie:I'm going to play a lot I got to play several a day in order to keep up you mean total I'm going to say 20 20 games alright don't forget you can come play Eric in curling yes well you can't because it's full the event is full but you can watch or maybe you can just drag me out of the hallway someone's not going to show up That's possible. Yeah, we're doing a curling tournament. Also, the curling thing will be set up so you can just play it whenever. Yes, you can. And if you see me and I have time, I'll throw a couple stones with you. All righty. Well, that's happening. Folks, thanks so much for listening.

1:01:29Until next time, I'm Tom Basile.

1:01:31Julie:I'm Julie Ahern. And I'm Eric Sommerer. And you've been listening to At the Table with the Dice Tower. Thanks for listening. at the table is produced by Tom, Julie, and Eric with assistance from the team at Dice Tower Studios. You can find us online on Facebook or on BoardGameGeek in the Dice Tower Guild. Promotional consideration has been provided by publishers in the form of review copies of games. Dave Culling arranged our theme based on themes by Timothy Pinkham and Coughing While Calling for Assistance brought to you by Kelp. Until next time, from all of us at the table, have fun gaming.

1:02:11Julie:Oh, so good. You know, if people threw tomatoes at us, that would jump right to the top of the list of most awkward fan interaction. Not saying you should do that. No, stop. Don't put that out there. Don't do that. It would be awkward. We wouldn't want that. I would ban you for life. So bad.