At The Table with The Dice Tower - Essen Adventures 2025

30:04I had, yes, several people bring me. So, thank you to everybody that came and said hi to me and also stayed away during the signing. It was delightful. All of you who listened and actually followed through with that. I want to apologize. There was one man who came to say hi, and there were tons of people. And I was working at the cash register space. And I basically said, oh, right there. Could you grab that for me? And he did. And he handed it to me, thinking he was another customer waiting in line. And he was like, I love you on the podcast, and then ran away. And I felt so bad. Oh, that's amazing.

30:47So to whoever you were, I saw you. You could have stayed and said hi for a little bit longer, but I understand. It was very busy and you probably had other games to look at. I tried to send as many people who came to the booth and said they liked the podcast. I'm like, have you seen Julie yet? I sent them your way as best I could. But many of them had already visited you. They went to you first. They're like, oh, yeah, we already saw Julie. I'm more of a fixed point as opposed to a moving target. You were second on the list. Yeah. Yeah, fair enough. So what wacky ways do people stand out? I mean, there are so many, like a thousand something games at this event.

31:22How do you stand out from the crowd? Do you spend a bunch of money on a floating sign? Do you put up banners? Do you put trees in your booth and hope the people are intrigued? What worked? What sort of stood out as crowd drawing strategies? You put the hanging banners up so people can find your booth, period. Yeah, true. That's a – when people say, where are you? Look up. Yes. You become a landmark. Yeah, that's easier. Signing didn't hurt this year. But I saw a lot of those. Like Scott Brady, I know, had several games that he did signings for that people were really excited about, for example.

32:05I don't – you know, you try different things. I think it also has to do with the demographic of your game. You know what's going to resonate with your people, I suppose. So, you know, for example, at Gen Con where we could do the haunted house, we knew that was going to resonate with our Final Girl fans. But it's much harder to do something like that at an Essen. And so what, I guess, what resonated with you all when you were walking through? What visually grabbed you or pulled you in? Well, in Hall 1, there was a two-level boo. Yeah, sure was. That's easy to do. You just do that. I mean, it is easy because you hire professionals to do it.

32:54You just have to spend the money to have professionals do it. The Korea, I think the Korea board games, had like museum-style cases for their big releases. They were just like illuminated under glass of a little setup of their stuff. And then the demo tables were behind them. And I thought that was a really neat way to just, here are our games. Here's what they look like. You can get nicely well lit. You could take pictures of them if you wanted. And then you could go further into their booth. But this is something that only larger booths can do if you're going to spend a whole lot of floor space on a lighted pedestal.

33:29Right. Repos always does some fun stuff. We were invaded at our booth a couple times by some publisher groupings. Wasn't there some people at your Seven Wonders Dice, Eric? I was so confused. So I was playing Seven Wonders Dice. They were playing in the Dice Tower booth. And suddenly this like procession with a it looked like a cocktail bar showed up. And I'm trying to learn the rules to this game. I have not played before. And I think I was sitting at a table with people who had. So I was already swimming with sharks and I'm trying to learn the game. And then these guys show up and ask me what punny Seven Wonders Dice themed cocktail I would enjoy.

34:09And I'm like, I just blurted out one of them. I was like a mojito or something or dice keto something. And I'm like, wait, are you actually going to serve me a drink here at the booth? And I'm trying to listen to the rules and pay attention to what these guys are doing. And they're shaking. They put dice in a cocktail shaker and they'd shake the dice. And then they handed me an empty cup. It was all just theater. I was so confused. But we had a bunch of tribal elders show up for one of the other games and people in costume. There was a ticket to ride procession that happened at one point. and they play Mission Impossible music and do like a little motorized train through the halls.

34:49How'd that even work? How do you have room for that? You don't. It was intense. You anger other publishers. Oh, here comes that stupid train again. Yes. Well, because part of that happened when I was trying to, one of our games, Customs released it and only came in halfway through Thursday. Oh. So you can't move a whole pallet in at that point. Nope. But they can have a train. And you're trying to get boxes several at a time in your arms through the crowds that are stopping every three steps to look at the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. And then also a train. And I almost – there was almost a wild west taking of the train so that I could just load the boxes onto it and bring it to my booth.

35:40It didn't. I restrained myself, but I thought about it. That would be amazing. Yeah. I'm taking this train over. Yes. I was going to be an outlaw. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So nothing stood out as the hit of the fair, but Tom sort of alluded to, you know, games selling out and simply saying it sells out at Essen could mean any number of things. It could be a well-planned sellout of 2 ,000 copies, or it could have been, we had 300, It's all we brought. We gave out 100 a day and then they were gone. And that creates a lot of frustration. And I don't know if there is a good solution to how to handle if you are that limited in your supply.

36:23How do you distribute them as fairly as possible? Well, I think you do some a day for sure. But the I think the frustration just has to be if you are going to the fair, you need to realize you won't get everything. and also realize that the vast majority of these games will be available soon. You will be able to get them from other sources. If you're listening to this and be like, oh, I wish I could have gotten whatever the game is, you'll be able to get it. Yes. And it's, yeah, there's some little tiny games and you'll be like, oh, I never heard of that game again. But then it wasn't probably that amazing.

37:02And then if you really want to hunt down these tiny games, you really can. There's people out there who are willing to sell them. you know there's all kinds of games but i always tell i saw a lot of people and i was very pleased to see people come by the booth with like handfuls of games that were popular last yes yes if you're patient they were like oh we got these on a deal and these were great and these were cool and i was like yes that's the way to do it you know you have a year's worth of information and reviews and things about the games you know you can come in the the publishers are still selling a lot of these games very gladly to you.

37:35They won't run out. You're not waiting in line for those. You can pretty much get them everywhere. Absolutely. We're more likely. That's true. I had two examples of that. So I went Thursday morning and both examples were small publishers who didn't. And when you ship games, you have to do it enough in advance, like I said, to know that you're going to clear customs. And even when you plan for everything, that doesn't always work out. So you've allotted a certain amount of games that you think that game is going to do to Essen. And then suddenly it blows up on the BGG list or whatever it is. So if you're a small company, it's very hard to pivot.

38:20So the two examples I had were small companies who were – there was no way they were going to be able to pivot and get more in time. So you have to have that understanding too. And I, you know, so yeah, it's hard because you want it. But also, what Tom said, there are plenty of other games. One of them was, so Charming Games, I had four games on my list. They had pre-sold everything. So they were sold out by the time I got there Thursday noon. And I already had a list of, if people didn't show up for their pre-sale, that was, he's like, I can't take any more. that I know that this is the number.

39:01So instead, I had a little chat with him about the frustrations of being a publisher and not being able to get more and have this happen. And he still had the expansion for Park Life, which came out at Gen Con, not this past Gen Con, but the previous Gen Con. We had a little chat about what I liked about that game, and he had the expansion for that. So I ended up getting that because I like that game and wanting to support a small publisher, and I will enjoy that. So there's that too. Like you said, it doesn't mean just because it's not the newest doesn't mean that there aren't enjoyable games.

39:34And also because he couldn't sell any of them, he had time to sit there and have a little conversation about it. Yeah. And that was lovely. It's that weird thing. I can't sell anymore, but I'm happy to chat. Right. I have plenty of time now. Right. So, you know, and as for my plan, it was all small games that I got. And that's all I got because the big games that I was interested in by Sunday had sold out. But that's OK. I know those are going to come to the United States. I know they are. I'm not. It was I wanted one of them maybe. And or I will try to get as many of them played that are at the Dice Tower Cruise.

40:14That's fine. Yeah. So I know Tom went back with many suitcases full of things. The coordination effort there was epic and enjoyable. Julie, how'd you do? Real quick before we jump to your much more interesting picks. We did, for the first time ever, we didn't ship anything. We managed to fit in the suitcase. Nice. That is because we changed the person who picked up the games, i.e. became me. And so I was more picky a little bit. Selective. I still got 100 plus games. Selective. but for myself outside of the games that I got for the Dice Tower I got nothing almost at all I usually buy puzzles and things like that and I was like well I think we're good the only thing I bought it's a dumb little stuffed animal from Lookout Games it was a little wild pig piglet I don't know why I instantly liked it and I brought it back and my kids were there you go nice I got a t-shirt that said introvert and it's a cat in a knight outfit behind a castle wall.

41:23Oh, cool. And that was my non-game purchase that I was quite pleased about. There was an artist alley, so I spent some time looking through those illustrators and artists and stuff and ended up getting a comic for my youngest, which is cool. Nice. But as far as games go, Julie, how did you do? Did you overflow your luggage? Did you go beyond your plan? I did not. I, like I said, I had my, I have things broken down into tiers. And my A list, I got all the ones that hadn't sold out that were smaller. And I hadn't put any of the massive games in that first list. So with the exception of Charming Games and Freya's Swamp, I got, I think, just about everything else on that first list.

42:12They were all, I ran into Tom. I had Thursday morning off, so I actually went on Thursday morning to get those. And there was a lot in Hall 4 because, as Tom put it, I like the weird stuff. So I did. I got a lot of small card games, a couple of small to medium-sized board games that have cute components. And then I did spend a little bit of time in Hall 3 very early on before the hall opened. So I got a couple things. So, yes, I stuck to my list. I didn't end up getting one large board game. So I had saved space in case that happened and it didn't happen. So I was good. There was no Tetris-ing drama for me this year.

42:59I think I got about the same as Gen Con. I think I have about 16 games. Okay. I want to say I did pretty well as well. I think I had three big boxes and two medium boxes, and then everything else was small. But it was probably, when you totaled it all up, about 20 games that I went home with. But I didn't have to overflow into a carry-on. I think at one point I did put a, what is it, Origin Story, which is a pretty heavy card-based game. I put that in my tote bag, and everything else fit in the big suitcase, and I was underweight. And so I was very happy. That's less than I've gotten on previous Essen trips.

43:35And it's a much more reasonable amount to get through and play before the next big event. So I think I did a good job. So I'm going to pat myself on the back. Good job. Well done. Actually, I've seen Eric at previous shows. And yes, I was so proud of him. Thanks, buddy. I mean, I said it a little facetiously, but I actually genuinely meant it. All right. Well, let's talk about some games.

44:05They say that every rose has its thorn, but not every rose has a hula hoop. All right, games to talk about. Who wants to go first? Me. Okay, Julie. So, Tom mentioned this, and it was his final game he talked about in the last episode. Mm-hmm. A carnivore did it as one that he was looking forward to looking at. And I'm stealing it. But to be fair, like I said, I didn't get to go out much. I certainly didn't get to play a lot of other games besides the games at our booth. And one of our demoers had all of Saturday off and would buy games and then come back to the booth. I think, like you said, it got overwhelming.

44:52So he would come back and have a little bit of an introvert quiet moment and then go back out. And in that time, he would show me the games that he had gotten. And A Carnivore did it was the one game that I was like, I know that one. I've heard about that one. So on Sunday morning, while we were doing setup before we started, we played. And so it is one of the games I got to play. He had played it the night before, so sat down, played it. And for each, it's a cooperative game where you're given a number of suspects. and of those suspects you're given a certain number are lying the rest are telling the truth with their statements and you're doing an elimination to figure out who was the culprit so for me this was a rose for sure and it's because i realized because in episode 46 so it's been a minute but i played cat crimes which i was okay with but it wasn't great I had expected it to be more like a detective or Sherlock Holmes style game, and it wasn't.

46:01What I realize now is it absolutely was like, and on the other end of the spectrum was Turing Machine, that you're using deduction of, and this one hit the sweet spot. So Turing Machine for me is too abstract. So I just tune out after a while. I like the concept, but it just doesn't captivate me. Cat Crimes was for kids, clearly. So it had a lot of physical components you could use to help you keep track of the logic puzzle of it. And it was too easy. It was OK, but it was definitely made for kids. This is absolutely the sweet spot. And it had thousands of cases. So much like Turing Machine, you could play it for a long period of time.

46:45But because it had the concrete aspect of these all carnivore animals, which one did the killing, and you're trying to figure out which one. For me, it is the Goldilocks zone of that genre of games. So it was a rose for me. I didn't get it. I didn't buy it because I was in the booth, but I will be looking for it when I can. So that was my first game. I did wait in line for this one. Tom sort of joked last time, are you really going to wait in line for anything? This is, I think the longest line I waited at was at the Horrible games booth to get a carnivore did it. But I haven't played it yet. I'm glad you liked it.

47:23I did. Then my other game that I was my hula hoop. So I'm walking through the halls. I'm trying to get from like one meeting to another. I turned a corner and in front of me was Flo. Now, if you've seen the movie uh if you haven't it's on netflix go watch it but it's a it was a movie done in latvia i believe uh about you know it's a the apocalypse has happened it's after humans are gone and it's animals trying to survive in this world where the water is rising inexplicably and they don't know what's happening so they get on a human bay boat that's been abandoned and have adventures i'm not going to get into the movie too much but the game i turned the corner and there it was and i i mean it's you can get in the united states you can get it on amazon it's easy enough to get but i was not aware of it wasn't anywhere on my radar saw the little kitten that's the character in the game on a big banner and yelled no way and scared everybody around me ran up i said i need to know everything about it so folks this is a children's game just so we're aware this is not this is a family game and i loved it it is a game where the four main animals from from the movie are in the four corners of a grid a square grid and the boat is in the center you're trying to get them all to the boat that is the object of the game.

49:03You have one of two choices on your turn. You're either drawing a tile and placing it, and you have to place it starting with one of the animals, and then you have to follow the path, and the paths are water channels, and it's carcassone. You have to match up the water panels to the water panels. You can't have something cut off, and you're trying to get them to the boat, or you can draw a card and play a card, which are mostly help cards, but depending on where you are in the game, they could get weird and not help you at all because because timing has, you know, it's a randomization, kids game.

49:35But it has the other characters from the movie. So the seagull-ish bird that can pick you up and fly you somewhere else. So the whale shows up. So all of that, but you have one minute. After a minute, however many, whoever's turn it is, because you're taking turns and the next person, the next person, whoever's turn it is, when the timer goes off, the big wave comes and you roll two dice. One is the X axis, one is the Y, and you remove all the tiles on those lines. And then you have to regroup and work from there. So very simple. There's also scenario cards that can make a little bit more strategy, but it's meant to be a family style game.

50:19It did so much leaning into the theme with such a simple concept, and I loved it. and it's one that I can, again, it's a late night. Don't have to worry about it too much. I can just pick it up and put it down and play and it's all the art from the movie itself and that was my hula hoop. Didn't see it coming. It was not on any of my lists. It hit you like a wave. It hit me like a wave. So those were my two. Who's next? I'll go, I'll go. Go ahead, Eric. So I did not know about Ghost Lift, a card-shedding game with a sort of a, it's an Edward Gorey style art design, but it's actually art by Sai Beppu, who does a lot of work for the Allplay small box titles.

51:11Ghost Lift is, as I said, a card-shedding game. There's this elevator, and it's got a little cardboard thing with the arrow saying up or down. And there will be, you start with a card underneath the elevator, say a four, and the elevator is going up. And so now you are trying to get rid of your cards and you have to play, if the elevator is going up, you have to play a higher value. The cards go from one to ten. Yes, ten is the highest. And you can play a single card or you can increase the number of cards by one. So if I had a pair of sevens, I could play those down. And if there was a pair on the table, you could then play a triple if you had a triple.

51:48But you can only increase the number of cards by one, and you have to follow the up-down. Many of the cards then have arrows. So maybe the six has a down arrow, and now I switch the elevator to down, and the next player has to play below the six. And some of these are pretty tricky. The twos, if they have arrows, have a down arrow, forcing a one. And the nines have an up arrow, forcing a ten, which is sort of a tricky groan moment where I was like, oh, why did you play the nine? Now I have to, I can't. Whether you're able to play or not, you then get to draw from a market of cards that are on the side and they duplicate values get clustered.

52:26So if you're drawing twos, multiple twos might be in the same row and you'll take them all if you're going to take those twos. Having multiples in your hand is good because it lets you play those doubles, triples a lot easier. When somebody runs out of cards, Then you look at the cards in your hand, and you will get a ghost meeple, these adorable little meeples, in front of you for each value you have. So if I had multiple twos, I'm only going to take one two ghost, and then maybe a five ghost and a seven ghost. Now I have those in front of me. We begin a new round. If I, however, get to the next round, and I again have twos in my hand, the two ghost flips over into a green side, sort of danger ghost mode.

53:07and if it happens a third time, if I have to flip that ghost again, I will lose. Also, if I have three green ghosts in front of me, I lose. There's only a single loser. Everybody else celebrates and I am trapped in the ghost lift forever. This was a lot of fun. It has that simple approach. It has that scout drawing you in, getting rid of your cards. The components are adorable. One slight complaint that the threes and the fives look very close to each other in the art design. The font they used made threes and fives a little tricky to figure out what they are. But that's a minor quibble. I think if you just know what you're doing, you're good there.

53:48But this is definitely one that has some cool choices, has those grown moments, builds as more and more cards get on the table as somebody escalates to a triple. And you're like, what do you know? I had a pair that I could have played. And you have to learn to deal with that. It really has some strong appeal. This was, unfortunately, one of those games that was extremely limited at the fair. In fact, I had written it off as, I'm just not going to get this. And our friends, Tom mentioned, Caro and Uli, our German compatriots in the booth, they waited in line and got me a copy for my birthday. So that was awesome and unexpected.

54:27This was unexpected for me, a hula hoop, because I didn't even know it existed until I had a chance to play it. and then said, yeah, this is one I'd like to play with the family. And also a surprise gift for my birthday. That's Ghost Lift from End Games. I'm hoping they distribute it more widely in the very near future. Me too, because it was also on my list, and I was like, I'm not going to try. Yeah, yeah. That's fair. Second is the one I knew I was going to be interested in. This is Freedom and Freeze's new Formidable Farm. Eric loves Freedom and Freeze. This one is, it's a very simple trading game.

55:01There's always the joke that Euro games are, I trade this cube for this cube, and I will trade this cube for this cube in points. That's literally the game. You have a stack of cards that you're trying to get through. It's based on the number of players. So I might have a stack of 20 cards. Each of these cards is a villager that wants me to trade them something. So I'll flip one up. It says, I want two tomatoes. And in return, you can get three wheat. So if I can get each round, each turn, you get to get some sort of income. There's like a market board in the center. And you put your little token on it.

55:38And you can get like three wheat or two tomatoes or a card or one pig because some goods are worth more than others. You also can block your opponents. If you are on the two tomato space and Julie wants to place there, she's going to have to pay some coins in order to do that and be able to place where I am. I know. I blocked you. You've got to pay more for those tomatoes. So you get your tomatoes, and then you can trade them, and you can make up to three trades on a turn, and you'll get whatever the reward is on the second half of the card. So you could trade the tomatoes for wheat and trade those wheat for a pig and trade that pig for a draw of cards, because you don't normally just get to draw cards.

56:18You have to incorporate that into your system so you can draw from your deck. So you have to churn through your deck, make all those trades, make all the exchanges. There are some common trades as well that you can utilize. Once you have used a trade, it becomes a coin. Once those cards have been activated, they're now coins that can be used to get you some more resources, place where other players are, not move your token, because ordinarily you have to, but if you spend some coins, I can stay in the same place and get those two tomatoes again, and Julie still can't get them without paying coins.

56:52It was delightful. I played this once solo and once before the booth opened. We pulled out one of the tables and tried Formidable Farm. It is a lot of fun trying to puzzle through how to get through your deck. And the multiplayer is cool because you're watching other people make trades. And what really useful synergy can I take away from them by taking a car away from the market and then getting just enough coins to trigger my next trade? How do I make it all work? Super puzzly. It has that 2F wooden component feel. There's just like a certain feel to the wooden components on a Freedom and Freeze game.

57:31But a slightly different art design. I think they hired a French studio to do the art here. And it feels a little more cartoony than a lot of other 2F titles. I really liked Formidable Farm. This is a rose. And I think it's going to be here soon. I think Rio Grande is bringing it over in a full Formidable Farm English version. Mine says Formidable, but it has the English rules in it. Really liked it. Formidable Farm. I'm sort of looking forward to it, but we all have to remember that Friedman Freeze is Eric's Canizia. He likes everything he does, including his really bad games. Not always the really bad, but I always like to see what he comes up with.

58:11Less optimal. Yes. I've gotten rid of plenty of Friedman Freeze games. I don't know. You always give them a high review. But I'll try it out anyway, mostly because it's called Formidable Farm. Okay. So real quick here. Leaders is a game about two groups. Well, you have a leader, and then you get a bunch of champions who are fighting each other. It's not a particularly inspired name choice here. But it is a two-player game designed by Hugo Frenoy. It's his only game. And the publisher is Studio H. which they make some great stuff. It's a somewhat abstract game where you each have like a leader.

58:52I think it's a king versus a queen. And you have a bunch of champions, each with special abilities. And you'll have three cards next to the board. So on your turn, you can move all of your pieces, one space, or use a special ability they might have, which might be, for example, move two spaces or pull another piece towards you or something like that. and then you can take one of the three and add them to your side of the board and you'll keep doing that till you have five people so it's five e five eventually you win if you get two pieces next to your opponent's leader if two of your pieces are touching them you win or if their leader cannot move doesn't matter who's surrounding them game can be 10 minutes 20 minutes 30 minutes depending on how long you want to play.

59:38It is fantastic. It is a great light, but a game that has a bunch of depth in it, I'm pretty impressed with it. Okay. So that's called Leaders. The other game is called The Old King's Crown. Now, this got some pretty stellar reviews, and me being the curmudgeon I am sometimes, you know. I'll show them. Well, you know what that is, right? Eric just said he liked Farmville Farms and I'm like, we'll see. We'll see. So this is designed by Pablo Clark who also did the art. And I'm not kidding. I think this is some of the best if not the best board game art of the year. And so this is a game in which you are one of four different factions, the rebels or the nobles or some magic people.

1:00:36I forget what they're called who just want to destroy everything. And you are playing a game of area control on the board to some degree with card play. It's a card. It's like a deck. It's not really a deck builder. You have a deck of cards and you can add some more cards to it. But it's more about controlling and playing these cards at the right time. Like at the beginning of each round, it goes through spring, summer, fall, winter. in spring there's some cards that are out there that are going to give you special abilities and you bid for these cards with a number card from your hand and you could win with a high number card but then you won't have the high number card to fight for these areas over summer and everyone has special abilities it's very asymmetric it becomes more asymmetric but it also is a very clean feeling game like if i hadn't known any better and hadn't seen the artwork i would have thought it was a leader game where it feels like root or that where there's not a ton of rules per se but the way that they interact and you know mess with each other feels complex so like easy to learn hard to master sort of deal and it's it's a fascinating game and in fact leader games is thanked in the rule book you know for they they looked at the game but he printed this on his own It's his first publishing thing, and it's impressive.

1:01:57The rule book is so clearly written. When I first got it, I was like, oh, 45 pages. But that's because it clearly explains everything and gives examples. It's one of the best rule books I've read in a long time. It's very interactive. Realize that. You will not love your opponents. They will do bad things to you. But the choices feel really sweet and interesting, as in, oh, okay, I'm going to play this card here. I can play the one. It's not very powerful, but it lets me bring another card in. Or I'll play this card, which will kill my opponent's cards. But they might know that, so they put some low cards with shields that defend against that.

1:02:37It's that sort of thing, and I'm just really impressed by this game. It's the Old King's Crown. Neat. So of the two, which was more of a surprise? Leaders. I'm sorry. No, the Old King's Crown. Sorry, the Old King's Crown. because I kind of wasn't expecting it to be as good as it was. Leaders, I looked at and thought, I bet I like that game. So Leaders is the... Rose. Rose. And the Old King's Crown is the hula hoop or whatever. Indeed. Have I ever said how much I like our terms? I think you mentioned it. This is an all positive slate for today. We just have so much. It's a bounty of joy. And sleep deprivation.

1:03:13Well, we're getting close to the end of the year. So sometimes it's not worth our time talking about negative stuff as much. Don't worry, folks. If you want negative reviews, I'm doing plenty of them on the channel. But we are getting to the end of the year, and there are hundreds of games coming out, and I'm excited to see what our top games of the year are going to be. That's very true. I'm sure that some of the games we brought home are going to be disappointments. There's got to be just statistically. 100 % statistically. And some of them, I looked at them already, and I'm like, yes. Although I am getting concerned because I bought four abstract games from a publisher, new unique ones I thought.

1:03:49I went home and taught one to my son and he beat me. And I was like, good. Now we know how the game works. And the second time I'm like, ooh, I'm going to give him an opening, but it's really, he won't see it. And he did and he beat me. And the third one I said, well, now I need to beat him so that it's, you know, that we're even. And he beat me again. And I was like, huh. Huh. So that'll be a thorn in the future. Yep. Got it. I am pleased. Well, we do need to end here, folks, mostly because all of us are falling asleep. True! We will see you in a few weeks. Thank you for joining us. Until next time, I'm Tom Vassell.

1:04:25I'm Julie Ahern. And I'm Eric Sommerer. And you've been with us on this podcast called At the Table. Thanks for listening. At the Table is produced by Tom, Julie, and Eric with assistance from the team at Dice Tower Studios. You can find us online on Facebook or on BoardGameGeek in the Dice Tower Guild. Promotional consideration has been provided by publishers in the form of a few copies of games. Dave Culling arranged our theme based on themes by Timothy Pinkham. And Finding Housing for Your Chickens is brought to you by A Place for All My Brocks. Until next time, from all of us at the table, have fun gaming.

1:05:06And then it's just snoring. Yes? Yes. Just leave. You should come for the Christmas market here in Indianapolis so you can get a spiral potato. Oh, that's a bit of a journey. I'm just saying. But it's tempting. Yeah. Well, if you really like them, you'd do it. If you were a real friend. I would ship them? What? If you were a real friend, you'd come visit and get a spiral potato. Yes. Yes.