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The Documentary Podcast: Episode Summary
Podcast Information
- Title: The Documentary Podcast
- Description: A deep dive into global stories, exposing hidden truths and understanding the world through documentary storytelling from the BBC World Service.
Episode Details
- Episode Title: BBC Correspondents' Look Ahead to 2026
- Host: James Coomarasamy
- Guests:
- Anthony Zurcher (Senior North America Correspondent)
- Asma Khalid (Co-host of The Global Story podcast)
- Faisal Islam (Economics Editor)
- Laura Bicker (China Correspondent)
- Lyse Doucet (Chief International Correspondent)
- Mayeni Jones (Africa Correspondent)
- Producer: Ben Carter & Lucy Proctor
- Editor: Richard Fenton-Smith
- Sound Engineer: Gareth Jones
Key Themes and Discussions
- Global Conflicts and Future Trends
- Current Affairs Context:
- Ongoing wars in Ukraine, Gaza, and Sudan influence the global political landscape.
- Concerns about conflict spreading further, alongside discussions on trade, technology, migration, and democracy.
- US Politics and Donald Trump
- Trump's Presidency:
- Trump’s first year back in office deemed historic by his team, citing achievements in trade policy, tax cuts, and immigration enforcement.
- Concerns about domestic economic trends, such as rising unemployment and inflation, which could impact the Republican Party in the upcoming midterms.
- Potential challenges for the Republicans, including health care costs and voter discontent regarding affordability issues.
Midterm Elections
- Significance: Control of Congress and the House of Representatives is crucial for both parties.
- Democratic Strategy: Varied candidate approaches based on local demographics could shape election outcomes.
- Foreign Policy Focus
- America First Approach:
- Trump’s involvement in global conflicts, including ongoing issues in Ukraine and the Middle East.
- Discussions of U.S. military presence in various regions and the implications of Trump's foreign policy on international relations.
- Economic Landscape
- Tariffs as a Diplomatic Tool:
- Discussion on Trump's tariffs aimed at boosting U.S. manufacturing and generating revenue.
- Potential economic repercussions and upcoming Supreme Court decisions on tariffs that could reshape the administration's approach.
- Technology and AI
- AI Boom:
- The U.S. tech industry's rapid growth and its implications for the economy.
- Concerns about sustainability of the tech boom and the balance between energy supply and demand.
- Spotlight on China
- Economic Leverage:
- China’s response to U.S. tariffs and its strategic use of rare earth resources.
- Youth unemployment and societal issues, including a mismatch between qualifications and available jobs.
- The concept of "involution" in competition among Chinese companies.
- Global Conflicts: Ukraine, Gaza, and Sudan
- Ukraine:
- Ongoing discussions around peace plans and military negotiations.
- Gaza:
- Future peace processes influenced by recent U.S. involvement and Israel's military strategies against Hamas.
- Sudan:
- The devastating impacts of the civil war and potential international involvement for resolution.
- Africa's Future
- Youth Activism:
- Rise of Gen Z-led protests across Africa demanding better governance and public services.
- The influence of social media facilitating organization among youth.
Conclusion
- The correspondents highlighted significant concerns and developments for the upcoming year, emphasizing the multifaceted nature of global politics, economics, and societal challenges. The discussions encapsulated a blend of optimism and caution regarding anticipated trends and events in 2026.
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Key Takeaways
- The interplay of local and global events will continue to shape political and social dynamics.
- In the U.S., economic issues and the upcoming midterm elections hold significant importance for both parties.
- International relations are influenced by ongoing conflicts, economic strategies, and technological advancements.
- Africa's youth are becoming increasingly vocal about their demands for change, indicating a shift in political engagement on the continent.
This summary synthesizes the key discussions and themes from the podcast episode, providing insights into the anticipated global landscape for 2026 as explored by BBC correspondents.
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOSetting the Stage for 2026
0:45 to 1:30
Discussion of global issues shaping 2026, including conflicts and trends.
“Over the next hour, I'm going to be speaking to BBC correspondents around the world about the people and places, the trends and technology that they're going to be keeping an eye on over the next 12 months.”
Trump's Presidency at a Glance
1:30 to 2:40
Analysis of Donald Trump's first year back in office and its implications.
“a man with something of an outsized influence on the rest of the world, be it economically, politically or indeed militarily.”
Midterms and Republican Challenges
2:40 to 3:40
Discussion on the potential outcomes and stakes in upcoming midterm elections.
“They think that they've spent more money on defense.”
Democratic Party Dynamics
3:40 to 5:20
Exploration of the challenges and strategies within the Democratic Party.
“So there are storm clouds on the horizon for them, even as they talk about what a golden age this is becoming for America.”
Republican Party Leadership Questions
5:20 to 6:40
Examination of leadership dynamics and potential successors to Trump.
“It would be a very different last two years of Donald Trump's presidency if the Democrats do manage to pull off that win in the House.”
Foreign Policy Focus Areas
6:40 to 8:10
Insights on Trump's foreign policy strategy and international involvement.
“In midterms, they can run different candidates in different races depending on local demographics.”
America's Global Role in 2026
8:10 to 9:50
Discussion on America's international commitments and challenges ahead.
“They're just kind of marking time until they leave office.”
Trade and Tariffs Under Trump
9:50 to 14:00
Analysis of Trump's use of tariffs and their implications for trade.
“I've been so struck this second term of Trump's presidency by how involved and how interested he is in what's going on with the rest of the world.”
US Foreign Policy and Tariffs
14:00 to 16:45
Learn about the evolving US foreign policy tools under Donald Trump, focusing on tariffs.
“century kind of view of spheres of influence, that the Western Hemisphere is the United States' sphere of influence.”
Economic Impact of Tariffs
16:45 to 21:35
Explore the predicted economic outcomes of tariffs on US consumers and the global economy.
“That has begun to happen in certain sectors upstream.”
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Tech Boom and Economic Sustainability
21:35 to 23:20
Discuss the sustainability of the tech boom and its potential risks in 2026.
“likewise google hadn't floated at that point was just being born and it is now worth nearly four trillion so it's not to say that the underlying technology is not sustainable and will not transform the world.”
China’s Response to US Tariffs
24:25 to 28:02
Examine how China has reacted to US tariffs and the implications for the global economy.
“We have been talking about Donald Trump and the impact that AI might have on the global economy in 2026.”
Youth Unemployment and Economic Challenges in China
28:02 to 29:10
Explore the struggles of Chinese graduates facing job market challenges.
“So around 12 million students have graduated in the last year alone.”
Involution: The Buzzword of Chinese Economic Competition
29:10 to 31:03
Understand the concept of involution and its impact on Chinese businesses.
“But China's economy is facing a number of headwinds and a number of serious challenges.”
Military Exercises and Taiwan's Status
31:03 to 33:16
Discuss the ongoing military tensions surrounding Taiwan and China's stance.
“How successful they are at that may depend on how successful businesses are in the future in this country.”
Renewable Energy Revolution in China
33:16 to 34:08
Learn about China's transition to renewable energy and its implications.
“You have given us dancing robots, hip hop grannies.”
Conflict Overview: Ukraine and Gaza
34:11 to 37:08
Examine the current states of the conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza.
“Well, look, we're going to talk now to the BBC's chief international correspondent, Lise Doucette, who is with me.”
The Humanitarian Crisis in Sudan
37:08 to 39:44
Discuss the humanitarian situation and ongoing conflict in Sudan.
“Again, as we record taking place, we don't know the final contours.”
The Changing US-European Relationship
39:44 to 42:01
Analyze the evolving dynamics of US and Europe relations in 2026.
“The Sudanese army accused the RSF of just playing for time and refused it.”
Middle East Tensions and Future Prospects
42:01 to 44:00
Explore the geopolitical landscape in the Middle East as correspondents discuss upcoming challenges and the ongoing conflicts involving Iran, Israel, and Lebanon.
“about suppressing free speech, really lecturing them.”
The War in Sudan and Regional Impacts
44:01 to 47:46
Dive into the implications of the war in Sudan on neighboring countries and the efforts being made toward peace by international leaders.
“let's go to Johannesburg in South Africa now and speak to our BBC Africa correspondent, Mayeni Jones.”
Youth Activism and Demands in Africa
47:47 to 50:19
Examine the rise of Gen Z-led protests across Africa, highlighting their demands for better governance and services amid political unrest.
“If we turn now to the social state of things across the continent, Africa is the world's fastest growing continent.”
Transcript
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0:39Hello, I'm James Kamara-Sami and this is the Correspondence Look Ahead to 2026 here on the BBC World Service. Over the next hour, I'm going to be speaking to BBC correspondents around the world about the people and places, the trends and technology that they're going to be keeping an eye on over the next 12 months. Much of that will be shaped... by what has already happened in 2025. We entered the year still focused on the wars in Ukraine, Gaza and Sudan. Now people are worried about conflict spreading further. Topics like trade, technology, migration and the health of democracy have helped to shape politics around the world.
1:18So will they continue to be the hot-button issues for the year ahead? And of course, one of the biggest stories of 2025 has been the return of Donald Trump to the White House. a man with something of an outsized influence on the rest of the world, be it economically, politically or indeed militarily. And we're going to begin the programme with the US President and the United States in general. Joining me from Washington are Anthony Zerker, the BBC's senior North America correspondent and Asma Khalid, co-host of the Global Story podcast and before that, a White House correspondent for National Public Radio NPR.
1:57Great to have you both with us. It's great to be with you. Good to be here. Anthony, we're going to start by saying, and we have to be clear, we are recording this on December the 17th, and things can move very, very quickly in Washington, can't they? But barring something major happening between now and when this programme airs, what do you think of Donald Trump's state of mind as he looks towards 2026? How do you think he's feeling his first year back in the Oval Office has gone? Well, if you listen to Donald Trump and his senior advisors, they're feeling good. They think this has been a historic first year of a presidency.
2:35They ticked through all of the various accomplishments that the president has put on his records, such as changing trade policy, massive cuts to portions of the federal government, rolling back the bureaucracy state in their view. They think that they've spent more money on defense. They passed a big tax cutting package. They have ramped up immigration enforcement. One of the things Donald Trump boasts about time and time again is how very few people are crossing the U.S.-Mexico border right now. So I think they do have a valid claim to having accomplished a lot and pushed the boundaries of presidential power and presidential authority in ways that we have not seen in a modern American presidency.
3:21Now, that's what they'll say publicly. I think behind the scenes, they have to be worried about the trend lines. They have to be worried about what next year has in store. There are signs that the economy is starting to slip, that unemployment is ticking up. Inflation is still a concern. They have to be worried about how Democrats are doing in some of the special and local elections we've seen over the course of the year, that next year's midterm congressional elections could be a bad one for Republicans. So there are storm clouds on the horizon for them, even as they talk about what a golden age this is becoming for America.
3:56Asma, let's look ahead to those midterms. What is at stake in them? Oh, there's a lot at stake, I will say. I mean, in a nutshell, the party in power traditionally never does well in a midterm. And Donald Trump has mused on that already, hasn't he? Yes, I think setting expectations right a bit here. But I mean, look, I think that there are definitely challenges for the Republican Party. And I think the clearest indication of that is the off-year elections we saw this year. So we saw governor's races in both New Jersey and Virginia. Democrats won in both of those. You saw a mayoral race in Miami and you saw for the first time in nearly 30 years a Democrat win that race.
4:36In terms of that, I think there's a lot of discontent among voters. There is still widely perceived to be a crisis of affordability. If you look at polls, it shows that Americans remain frustrated with the cost of groceries and the cost of utilities. I will say increasingly that the Trump team seems to recognize that that is a weakness and you are likely going to see them more actively campaign on this ahead of the midterms. People say this all the time, but American voters really, really tend to vote based on their pocketbooks. Right. And when you talk about the midterms, I mean, let me lay out what's at stake in November.
5:07Control of Congress, control of the House of Representatives. When you talk about control of Congress, Democrats don't have any power in Congress right now. If they get a foothold, if they get just the House of Representatives, that gives them the ability to block Donald Trump's agenda, to engage in oversight, issue subpoenas, really be a thorn in Donald Trump's side. It would be a very different last two years of Donald Trump's presidency if the Democrats do manage to pull off that win in the House. If I can just ever so briefly mention one other thing I think that really poses a substantial risk for Donald Trump and Republicans heading into the midterms, and that is health care costs.
5:44Health care is a vexing issue for many Americans, particularly the high costs. And what we are expecting to see at the end of this year, subsidies for the Affordable Care Act, shorthand note is Obamacare, are set to expire. There are no alternative plans right now that I've seen from this White House to counter message on that. And that means many people will not just be frustrated with the high cost of groceries. They will also be increasingly frustrated with the high cost of health care. Can I just ask, Asma, what type of Democratic Party, though, do you think we will see in these midterms? The energy seems to have been with the left, the more progressive side of the party this year, the likes of Bernie Sanders, AOC.
6:25Obviously, we saw the victory of Mandani in the New York mayoral election. What's your sense of where the party is going? I think that's an excellent question, but I think it's one that the Democratic Party as a whole at a federal level is probably going to try to somewhat punt on because they can. In midterms, they can run different candidates in different races depending on local demographics. It allows them to run different style candidates, perhaps a more moderate candidate in one area and a more progressive in another. But to the bigger question of who's the leader of the Democratic Party, there's still a lot of soul searching and frankly, no answers.
7:01Right. And in those off year elections, you had people like Abigail Spanberger running as a centrist in Virginia and winning. And then you had Zofran Mamdani running as a Democratic socialist in New York City and winning. And so that big debate within the Democratic Party about what the party should look like and their progressives who really think that the Biden years, the four Biden years was too centrist, too cautious, wasn't aggressive enough, wasn't rising to the threat of Trumpism and the Republicans. They're not going to be quiet and they're going to keep pushing. But at least right now, they have a common enemy with the centrists in the Democratic Party, and that is Donald Trump.
7:40That is going to be trying to get control. Once they get control, I think that's when you'll see the division start to emerge again. Well, one thing there hasn't been any question about thus far is who is the leader of the Republican Party. Donald Trump's had such a grip on it for so long. But, but, but, but are we starting to see a change? Yeah, I think there are cracks and part of it's natural, right? This is the second term of a president. And you don't have to get too far into a president's second term before there's talk of lame duck, someone who can't accomplish anything. They're just kind of marking time until they leave office.
8:16And thoughts within the party turn to who is going to be the next person, who is going to be the heir apparent. And we're seeing some signs of that. We're seeing people like J.D. Vance, the vice president, and Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, and others start to kind of jockey maybe a little bit for position to be the Republican nominee in 2028. I also think that Donald Trump's not that popular right now. If you believe opinion polls, they suggest that Donald Trump's opinion is sagging down. His approval is down in the low 40s, high 30s. And when that's the case, members of the party have to start thinking about their own skins and they have to think about what they have to do to survive because Donald Trump doesn't have to run for an election again, but they do.
8:59They're thinking much longer term than Trump. And so you start to see people try to get a little daylight between themselves and the president, try to distance themselves. And when it comes to the ballot box, you see members of his coalition that helped deliver the White House to him last year. People like Hispanics, minority voters, low income voters start to peel away and support Democrats. So it's not all sunshine for Trump right now. Part of that's natural. But part of it also is what he has done and his approval ratings at the moment. Well, let's turn to foreign policy. Asma is a co-host of the Global Story podcast.
9:33You're probably the person we should talk matters global to, first of all. One of Donald Trump's big mantras has been America first, but he's been pretty occupied with wars elsewhere during 2025. What do we think America first is going to mean in practice in 2026? Thanks. I've been so struck this second term of Trump's presidency by how involved and how interested he is in what's going on with the rest of the world. So I will say he was likely to continue to be very involved in a number of global conflicts. One key one I will say here is Ukraine. He pledged that he would solve it on day one. He has not yet been able to do that.
10:15It's an ongoing issue. And thus far, we have continued to see his administration involved in trying to find a solution to end that war. The other thing I'll point out here is the Gaza Stabilization Force in the Middle East. There's talk of potential U.S. forces on the ground. So that may keep him very involved there in the Middle East. And then lastly, I will say, and we saw this a bit in the big national security strategy document that his administration put out recently, they are very involved in trying to assert American, United States dominance and leadership in the Western Hemisphere, which largely means the Caribbean, Central America, and South America.
10:52And we keep getting drips and drops of potential possible intervention there in Venezuela. Right. Donald Trump, when asked about America first and whether his policies were America first, he says America first is whatever I say it is. I created it. I'm the one who can say whether it involves all of these various dalliances and different conflicts around the world or not. Now, whether the rest of the people within his movement agree with that or not or ride with him on that or not, I think that is going to be one of the big questions over his second term in office. And one of the things you typically see presidents do in their second term is kind of focus more internationally.
11:31Presidents have more authority there. They're looking to try to burnish their legacy. Donald Trump talks about this all the time, talks about wanting to be seen as a peacemaker, to win the Nobel Prize, to be able to solve wars. He boasts about all the wars he supposedly has ended during his first year in office. But it's going to be a source of friction between himself and his base, because if he focuses on international issues at the expense of domestic issues, and if things here domestically aren't going well, particularly with the economy, I think a lot of his supporters are going to kind of sour on that because that is not what he campaigned on.
12:08It wasn't what he the way he governed in his first four years in office. And yet it does, as Asma mentions, seem to be a very big priority for him this time around. Yeah. Just on that point, we don't know how things are going to develop in Venezuela. But clearly at the moment, there is a lot of focus on what's been going on in America's backyard, the kind of military strikes that have taken place. I mean, how do you see this developing? There is certainly a sense that the United States would prefer a different leader in Venezuela. Now, whether that actually leads to regime change, we'll see. I mean, I know we're taping here on the 17th, so maybe things will evolve by the time this airs.
12:51We saw just this week the president call for a total and complete blockade of sanctioned oil tankers around the waters of Venezuela. You mentioned the bombing of boats there in the Caribbean. This has been a steady drumbeat towards possible military, possible covert action in Venezuela. But I will say, look, James, I don't think it's only limited to Venezuela. We've seen him take a different tactic writ large with describing fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, intervening there and putting his stamp on who he thought the new elected leader of Honduras should be, offering a bailout, for example, to the Argentinian president, Javier Millet.
13:32President Trump in this term has been very keen to focus on Latin America, Central America, and ensure that he is able to, to the degree that he can, maybe in words, try to tip the scales towards those leaders he feels more comfortable with, more of a kinship with, and make it very clear those who he does not like. And even if it isn't clear in Donald Trump's own mind, the kind of overarching policy here, there are people around him who have been very explicit, including Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, about moving the United States' foreign policy to one almost like a 19th century kind of view of spheres of influence, that the Western Hemisphere is the United States' sphere of influence.
14:11It's interesting to see this over the course of this year play out. And Venezuela, with this massive buildup of U.S. forces, Donald Trump called it the biggest armada in the history of South America. But if you look, it's about 15 ,000 American servicemen in the Caribbean, which typically has a few hundred, a carrier group, a nuclear attack submarine, an amphibious invasion assault team, all of these planes and various support staff. It is a massive buildup to what end? And I think we'll see. We will see. We will see. One of the big foreign policy tools that Donald Trump has plucked from the past, of course, is the use of tariffs, trade tariffs, taxes on imports.
14:58It's something he's dabbled in before, spoken about for years, but now it seems to be, well, one of the central tools of his global diplomacy. To talk about this and a bit more of the economic focus in more detail, we've got the BBC's economics editor, Faisal Islam, here with us. Hi, Faisal. Hello. Well, look, Let's start with tariffs. The big gun that he pulled out earlier this year. Just remind us how they work and what he's been seeking to try and do. Well, he did promise it during his election campaign. That was now 2024, wasn't it? But it wasn't hugely focused on or taken seriously as it should have been.
15:37And we got the policy in spades this year, didn't we? Most famously with that infamous blue board on Liberation Day held up in the White House. and essentially they are taxes on your imports. That's the bottom line and America has historically kind of waved through those imports with very low rates of tariff and that has helped the American consumer buy the goods of the world cheaply. This was a fundamental change in approach and the interesting thing at the beginning of the year was that it was done for several reasons at the same time, some of which were contradictory, which added to the confusion across the world.
16:12So it was being done to raise revenue. It was being done to protect US manufacturing jobs and to bring back indeed US manufacturing jobs. It was being done, though, also as a tool of various types of diplomatic policy as a form of leverage. And indeed, that has been the most intriguing use. OK, so has this policy worked and going forward, is it going to be pursued in 2026? Well, I think it is going to be pursued. We haven't seen the full domestic economic impact yet. So primarily, the prediction would be that prices would go up. That has begun to happen in certain sectors upstream. We haven't seen it really come through as hard as you might expect, but we're told it's coming.
16:58So what happened was that manufacturers, importers swallowed it in terms of margin. Some exporting countries too, there was some pressure put there. It has raised some revenue for the US Treasury. But what we haven't seen, apart from with China, Canada to some extent, and some other European countries, is sort of mass retaliation. We haven't seen the tit for tat. We did see it with China, where there's essentially the two rutting stags of the world economy going head to head, trying to dare each other to go higher to almost ludicrous levels above 100%, which basically would have cut off all trade.
17:31Asma, can I just bring you back in? Looking ahead to 2026, the impact of tariffs on US consumers, both economically and perhaps politically, how do you foresee that? Well, the biggest unknown is this looming Supreme Court decision on tariffs. The case came in front of the highest court here in the United States. It's really unclear what could happen. I mean, look, there is a possibility that the Trump administration may lose. And that means that they would have to sort of figure out an alternative here. The legal basis that's up for question is this law from the 1970s that historically has not been used for tariffs.
18:12It is the basis, the justification that the Trump administration is using now. And legal experts question the authority that the White House has to do that. already you're seeing some American companies. I mean, I'm thinking of Costco. I don't know if that's elsewhere, but Costco is a big warehouse here in the United States. They sell pretty much anything you need. They have filed a lawsuit to try to get the tariff refund if indeed the Trump administration loses in front of the Supreme Court. Faisal, what would you say are the other big challenges then for the global economy in the year ahead?
18:42Well, one of the things that's cushioned the American economy over the past 12 months, which whatever the direct impact of tariffs it's been unbelievable uncertainty one of the things that's cushioned the u.s economy through this uncertainty has been this astonishing ai and tech boom some argue it's a bubble you see it in the stock markets you see it in the price of the massive u.s tech companies are you going to call it for 2026 well well i mean okay famously we started the didn't we with that picture at the inauguration with the five tech bro broligarchs as some call them lined up behind a tremendous projection of power.
19:19And the sheer amount of market caps, the value of these companies has gone up and up and up by the trillion as a very real investment boom has underpinned that. So you have both a very real astonishing increase in physical buildout of data centres, everybody trying to get hold of the world's most powerful chips, this race happening within the US. You have a stock market going crazy around it, crazy in the sense of like, everyone wants a piece of the action but there are some elements of it and the question is just how much is frothy bubble territory built not on solid revenues but built on massive borrowing and that has gone too far we've done a number of interviews here at the pbc with some of the tech titans involved where it's clear that although they think that they're fine they can spot around the corner various parts of their industry have gone a bit over the top so the question for me in 2026 is the sustainability of that because if it does go pop if it's anything like the dot-com bubble of 2000 that will be a profound moment not just financially and economically but also politically potentially geopolitically but what's really interesting in the past two or three months is that those tech leaders in silicon valley are now saying that energy is a key constraint so i've talked about financial sustainability what about energy sustainability in terms of just is there enough energy for this build out of data centers and of chips that's in america where they have a pro-energy kind of white house determined to tear down barriers it's creating some pressures in europe about the trade-off between wanting to not get too behind on this ai race but then also having climate change everyone says well you can it's fine we can do everything at the same time But actually, there are some trade-offs here.
21:01If things do go south, what does that mean for everyone? So the benign version of this is that the major tech companies still show their worth and are somewhat protected or insulated. But there are those on the periphery that are highly indebted that just go and we'll see bankruptcies. even in the dot-com bubble 25 years ago almost exactly what we saw there which was really interesting is we saw companies collapse in value like amazon you know fell to six dollars i think from over a hundred dollars and yet amazon is still here 25 years later and worth trillions likewise google hadn't floated at that point was just being born and it is now worth nearly four trillion so it's not to say that the underlying technology is not sustainable and will not transform the world.
21:49But the sheer state of the investment boom we're getting, the sheer amount of money pouring in, you know, we saw it even this year and people forget it's been a long old year, Jamie, right? You remember in January of this year, just after we saw that projection of American power, Donald Trump, the inauguration, those five tech bros, within a week, we had this unknown hedge fund in China as a side project to develop its own chatbot, LLM, large language model called DeepSeek. And that led to a mini correction in the share price of all these companies. And China has, you know, that has been what the Chinese have carried on doing in the background.
22:28And the business model there appears to be, okay, the Americans can compete to have the strongest, cleverest, smartest, closest to general intelligence model you can get. And they will pour all the energy and they will pour trillions into it. But perhaps what the world needs and wants is in fact a more energy efficient, cheaper, more basic model. And that's where the Chinese are operating. It reminds me of the famous analogy in the space race between the Soviet Union, the Americans developed tens of millions of dollars, developed a gravity defying pen and the Soviet Union developed a pencil. Now, of course, the Americans won that war eventually, but it's well worth watching the obscure end of the Chinese AI market to see if they come up with more deep seeks in 2026.
23:14A fight between a pen and a pencil ending our discussion on tech. Fantastic. Faisal Islam, Anthony Zirka, Asma Khalid, thank you all very much. Time for us to take a short break, but after the news, we'll be talking to Laura Bickett in Beijing, to Mayeni Jones in South Africa and to Lise Doucette, who is here, there and everywhere. I've spent the last three decades trying to better understand money across the boardroom, the newsroom and the trading floor. That's longer than most podcast hosts have been alive. But even though I've got questions, join me, Merrin's Upset Web, every week for my show, Merrin Talks Money from Bloomberg Podcasts, where I have in-depth conversations with fund managers, strategists and experts about how markets really work.
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24:12Hello and welcome back to the Correspondents Look Ahead on the BBC World Service. I'm James Kamara-Sami and I'm talking with some of the BBC's global correspondents to find out what's in store for the world in 2026. We have been talking about Donald Trump and the impact that AI might have on the global economy in 2026. We're now going to turn our attention to other parts of the world, although I suspect Mr Trump and AI might figure in conversations there as well. We're going to start with the world's second largest economy, China. And Laura Bicker, the BBC's China correspondent, joins us now from Beijing.
24:48Hello, Laura. Hello. How are you? Very good, thanks. Well, look, we've heard earlier on in the programme about how Donald Trump's tariffs have been playing out in the United States. Given that China has been one of the main targets of those tariffs, can you just tell us what impact they have had in Beijing, across China so far, and how you foresee things developing next year? Well, first of all, Beijing pushed back and pushed back hard. And I think if you ask officials here in China about how well China has performed this year, they will say that China has come out top of this trade war. And when it came to these tariffs, Beijing used what it had at its fingertips.
25:31It decided to use its economic leverage against the United States for the first time. And one of the key things it did was limit the US access to rare earth. Now, these are these kind of precious minerals that are used in everything from the smartphone in your pocket to your Bluetooth speaker, to anything, up to advanced weapons, for instance. Now, China processes 90 % of the world's RERA. So you can see the chock hold Beijing has over that precious resource, and it used it to its advantage. Now that it's found that leverage, is it prepared to let it go fully? Now, what we've seen is the trade war has kind of come to some kind of agreement, has eased off.
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26:16And we are expecting Donald Trump to arrive here in Beijing in spring in 2026. So I think when I spoke to officials at one of the end of year party, what they were saying is it should stabilise ties. And the red carpet will be rolled out for the US president here in China's capital. So I do think it will stabilise things. Perhaps they are able to come to a more concrete agreement. Right now, it's going from year to year to year. Clearly, one of the key uses of rare earths is in the microchips that power AI. And AI has become quite an interesting area in that relationship between the United States and China, hasn't it?
26:58I mean, I've seen some of the artificial intelligence innovations here in China close up. So President Xi is really trying to push this, what he calls it, new technology drive towards the likes of AI, humanoid robots. I mean, even the end of year parties we went to, we had dancing robots on the stage. China has more robots, for instance, in its factories than any other country in the world. This is a country that is looking forward and AI is a big part of that. Interesting to hear about the robots at the parties. I mean, you know, I'd like to have been at some of those parties, but it sounds interesting.
27:34I mean, perhaps that turns us to the question of unemployment because it's quite significant, isn't it, amongst the young Chinese people? One in five 16 to 24 year olds not in education or work. Did the robots help to explain how that's happened? No, I think what has happened here is that there's a mismatch between the number of students going to university and going to college and the jobs that are available. So around 12 million students have graduated in the last year alone. And that is a problem for this administration, this government, because really what they're trying to do, what President Xi has been trying to do is say, right, OK, you need to come out of college, but you need to go and do a job that you're very, very overqualified to do.
28:23And many young people have gone, well, no, I'm not going to do that. Some of them have been laying flat, as it's called. They're kind of going into the countryside, you know, hiking or taking what has been unheard of in China before, the likes of gap years. Others are trying to do whatever they can. I mean, I've met students who are doing three or four jobs. So this is something the government is trying to address, but it's really hard to see how it provides them with the jobs and meets their expectations. What they're trying to do is to get more people to go to vocational colleges so that they're qualified in things like new technology and science and technology education and, you know, let away from the likes of service industries where you can get a robot to deliver your dinner to your room.
29:10But China's economy is facing a number of headwinds and a number of serious challenges. One is obviously youth unemployment. The other is the housing market here. 80 % of Chinese households have most of their savings in their house. And of course, house prices have fallen. There are still millions, tens of millions of unfinished apartments after several construction companies and housing apartment companies have gone out of business. So these are the kind of headwinds that China is facing. Yes, it may fail that it's won a trade war. Yes, it may fail that perhaps we've stepped up on the global stage and presented a good image of China.
29:48But behind the scenes, there are serious challenges for President Xi and the Chinese Communist Party at home. Can we talk about this word involution? What exactly is it? It's sort of mentioned in the Chinese context quite a bit. Why is it a problem? Well, it's a kind of new buzzword about China's economy. It refers to kind of excessive competition amongst Chinese companies for limited resources, limited opportunities. I think one of the key businesses perhaps to look at are electric vehicles, lithium batteries or even solar panels. When something does well, you see a number of companies copying it.
30:23You see a number of companies kind of saying, right, OK, that's doing well, so I'll go into that business too. It drives the price down. The competition is cutthroat. There is huge overproduction and that means prices drive towards the bottom. What that does then is you have a number of businesses just, you know, going bust because they just cannot keep up. Beijing's trying to address this fallout by asking companies to stop these price wars voluntarily. And then announcing a number of what they call anti-involutionary measures to try to cut over capacity and try to rebalance the supply and demand.
31:02But again, that'll be something to watch out for in 2026 and beyond. How successful they are at that may depend on how successful businesses are in the future in this country. Let's turn, Laura, to Taiwan. I mean, for several years, we've been hearing about the likelihood of some kind of Chinese push, military perhaps, to try and take over Taiwan. Is this still something that is being discussed? So I think the Taiwan question is one of these questions that is discussed outside of China more than it's discussed inside of China. I think if you went out in the streets and kind of wandered around the park where the old ladies are doing, they're practicing their fan dancing or in one corner, they're actually doing a granny's hip hop.
31:49If you ask them about Taiwan, the first thing that they will tell you is that, dear, Taiwan is an integral part of China. People do not see Taiwan, people here in China, most of them don't see Taiwan as a country or any kind of separate island from the mainland. Obviously, China sees Taiwan as a breakaway province, one that it wants to unify with the mainland. it's a self-governing democracy as far as the Taiwanese are concerned. What we are seeing are more incursions in the grey zone, closer and closer and closer to the island's actual shores. So what is happening with China is they are using these waters around Taiwan to practice military exercises.
32:38And some of them are extremely large in nature. And what they do is they practice completely blockading Taiwan, entirely encircling the island. And that way nothing could get in and nothing could get out. And many military experts believe that if there is an attack on Taiwan, if President Xi decides that he wants to reunify the self-governing island with the mainland, that is how he will do it. And so those are the kind of military exercise we're saying, that it's becoming the new normal. And many people believe that will continue in 2026 and beyond. You have given us dancing robots, hip hop grannies.
33:20Is there something, though, that we don't know about China that we really need to know for 2026, something that's going to surprise us even more? Well, if you travel from north to south in this country, you will see a changing landscape. It was once filled with smog-filled air surrounding huge coal-fired power stations. We still have that. But now, mountain after mountain are layered with solar panels. You have wind turbines which are dotted right across ridgelines of the mountains. And I think experts are watching to see how much more can China now generate from this renewable revolution that's taken place in the last three years.
34:04And that is something to watch out for in the next year. Laura Bicker in Beijing there. Thanks, Laura. Well, look, we're going to talk now to the BBC's chief international correspondent, Lise Doucette, who is with me. And we've touched on some of the big conflicts that have been going on this year and have reached various points in the discussions or the attempts to end them, Lees. Let's take stock, though, perhaps in a bit more detail, Ukraine and Gaza. What's your sense? Take us through both of those conflicts and where we are and what we might expect in 2026. Well, our listeners may remember that day of days on October the 13th when President Trump came to the region.
34:49He addressed the Israeli Knesset and he went to a big peace summit, as it was called, in the Egyptian Red Sea resort of Sharm el-Sheikh. And in his very Trumpian way, he said this is the biggest peace in either 3 ,000 years or 500 years. Either way, he said, you know, this is huge. And everyone knew it wasn't peace. But I have to say, I was in Jerusalem that day. There was a huge sigh of relief. He was the only one who could put pressure on Israel, and in particular on his longtime friend and partner, the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, to say enough is enough, stop the war. Because you'll remember, Jamie, there had been talk that the war would go on into 2026.
35:30So the first phase of that peace process got all the remaining hostages, the alive hostages home, and all of the remains, at the point that we're recording, only one set of remains is still left. There was said to be a ceasefire, but some of the Western countries call it more of a pause because hundreds, three, four hundred, the number keeps going up. Palestinians have still died during this so-called ceasefire. Israel keeps attacking. Looking forward to 2026, it's expected that they are now going to move to the far more difficult second phase. And what does that entail? The disarmament of Hamas that is absolutely crucial for Israel.
36:13Hamas has made it clear that it will not unilaterally disarm. It has to be part of a political process. And for Hamas, and indeed for Palestinians, for the Arab states, in fact, for many Western states, it has to be a pathway to a Palestinian state. As we record, they're still trying to come up with what's called an international stabilization force, discussing which countries will be involved. There's talk of Azerbaijan, Indonesia. The Israelis don't want Turkey, but Turkey wants to be part of it. What will be its responsibilities? And will it be convincing enough, powerful enough, enabled enough that would then push Israel to withdraw from the rest of the Gaza Strip?
36:52It still controls about 53 percent. So those are the two obligations on both sides. So it's moving forward, but there's still a great risk that it could all still fall apart because tough, tough political decisions. But there is a plan. And when it comes to Ukraine, at the moment, there is still a negotiation about a plan. Again, as we record taking place, we don't know the final contours. Again, another big, big peace plan by President Trump. It started out as 28 points. Now, after discussions involving the Europeans and the Ukrainians, it's down to a 20 point plan. And sometimes, Jamie, these talks are rather surreal.
37:31We had all of these soundings in recent days as just before we're recording today. oh, we're making progress 90 % there. The Americans are talking about security guarantees for Ukraine in a way they never did before. There's talk of a ceasefire, talk of compromises by Ukraine. But Russia wasn't at the table. And if Russia's not at the table, and the first response from Russia, which still says it has to cede in detail, is that it doesn't want European Western troops, that is a red line. And it still is insisting on all of the Donbass, the eastern Ukraine, including the 14%, that the Ukrainians still control and indeed have actually lost so many lives trying to protect it.
38:14So those bold red lines of President Putin are still there. At least, Jamie, what we can say at the end of this year, peace is finally on the agenda and it only is so because of President Trump. The big question for both Ukraine and Gaza is whether it is more pieces of paper whether a real shot at peace. There are other conflicts in the world, notably Sudan. Again, in recent weeks, scenes of horror from El Fasha. What do you foresee? What are the things we should be looking out for in the new year? Horror. What are the words? The world is running out of words to describe the horrors we're seeing.
38:55The satellite imagery provided by the Yale Humanitarian Lab when there was finally, after 18 months of barbaric assault against Al-Fashur, the only place left in Darfur that was not controlled by the Rapid Support Forces, one of the key players in this war between the Rapid Support Forces and the Sudanese government. 18-month-long siege. And when it was finally over and the Rapid Support Forces took control, the Yale Lab said you could see from the sky the ground was red. It was blood. And now a few days ago, it has talked about mass graves, horrendous massacres, horrors which are war crimes. So there is a cry from most of all from the Sudanese and from so many others saying the war must end.
39:43Rapid support forces widely believed to be supported by the UAE, even though the UAE continues to firmly deny it, agreed to a humanitarian pause. The Sudanese army accused the RSF of just playing for time and refused it. But as the year ends, there has been talks involving the Sudanese general, head of the army, General Braham, and Saudi and American officials in Saudi Arabia. The Russians have a plan that they're talking about. There's a grouping called the Quad, which includes the United States, the United Arab Emirates, key player, as I said, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, another key player backing the Sudanese army.
40:25A reminder that this is not just a bloody, bloody civil war. It is also a regional war, proxy war. And although in recent weeks there were de-agreements signed to finally get food to the hungry and to the starving, famine has been declared in many parts of Sudan. Those agreements are really fragile and people are not getting the assistance that they need, most of all, peace. You talk about countries working together to try and secure peace. One of the developments at the end of this year has been a new US national security strategy, which has suggested, and leaders such as the German Chancellor Friedrich Merz are very open about saying this, that Pax Americana, that key post-war relationship between the United States and Europe is fundamentally changed.
41:19And I just wonder how you see that US-European relationship going forward in the new year, whether it comes to solving conflicts or working together bilaterally. Jamie, that has been the thread of the entire year. I've already been thinking ahead to February, to arguably one of the most important security conferences of the year, the Munich Security Conference. You may remember in February last year, then it was absolutely abundantly clear to European partners, to the Canadians that the so-called Transatlantic Partnership was dead. You had the American Vice President J.D. Vance arriving in Munich, lecturing the Europeans about their undemocratic ways, about suppressing free speech, really lecturing them.
42:08It was a moment of reckoning. And there's a lot of discussion about the old Monroe Doctrine, the right of the United States to basically act on its own, where the United States believes basically, you know, we'll literally call the shots. Where else should we be looking, Lise? I mean, countries that you know well, you've been to recently. just take us forward to next year and what we should be looking out for. I've been thinking, and I'm sure many are thinking, what will Prime Minister Netanyahu discuss with President Trump when he meets him in Mar-a-Lago in Florida? We understand it's going to be just before the end of the year.
42:42Will Prime Minister Netanyahu raise again Iran? There's still discussion. When I was in Iran, I arrived the day of the ceasefire when the 12-day war between Iran and Israel, which included American bombing, ended. Not a single Iranian I spoke to believed that the ceasefire would hold. It has held so far, but I don't think that's off the agenda. It's also connected to what's happening in Lebanon with the failure of efforts to disarm Hezbollah. And Iran's still saying Hezbollah has the right to resist aggression by Israel. Israel continues to attack Lebanon when it sees its security threatened. It continues to attack Syria when it says its own interests are threatened.
43:20There's just, as the year ends, there's been an attack by Islamic State, killing and wounding both American and Syrian soldiers. President Trump has vowed revenge. Syria, again, a testing year in 2026. So I think, Jamie, we have to hold on tight because next year, despite all the talk of peace and peace deals, is that this is going to be a year of challenges. I think all of us and all of our listeners will hope it will move, however slowly and with setbacks in a more positive direction, most of all for the people suffering through these horrific crises. Lise, thank you so much. Lise Doucette there.
44:01OK, well, look, last but very much not least, let's go to Johannesburg in South Africa now and speak to our BBC Africa correspondent, Mayeni Jones. Hi, Mayeni. Look, we've just been hearing from Lise Doucette about the war in Sudan. I wonder what is the sense of urgency to end that war within Africa? What kind of impact is it having on the whole region and the continent? Yeah, I mean, undeniably, the war in Sudan's had a very deep impact on the wider region. It's pulled in its neighbours, namely Chad and South Sudan, where many of the people affected by the violence have had to flee. It's displaced, you know, thousands of Sudanese people, many of whom don't know when they will be able to come back home and when it will be safe to do so.
44:47So things might look slightly different next year. The Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman visited the White House in November and mentioned to President Donald Trump of the US that Sudan was a priority for his country and that bringing some sort of lasting solution to the conflict there was important to him. After that, Mr. Trump expressed some sort of interest in Sudan and wanting to end the conflict there. So he might be, or the US in general as a country, might be the one country that is able to bring together the different actors in this conflict. So that would potentially be the best way to kind of reach some sort of peace team.
45:26You mentioned Donald Trump talking about solving wars. I mean, the war in the DRC, it's one of the ones he's talked about, isn't it? And there are plenty of conflicts taking place on the continent. I mean, DRC, Rwanda, of course, but then you have Eritrea, Mali, Niger, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, plenty of instability in other countries like Nigeria, Mozambique. I mean, are there common factors here? Are there concerted efforts to try and end these conflicts going on? Well, firstly, in terms of common factors, I think most analysts would agree that many of these countries have issues to do with poor service delivery, poor leadership, poor adherence to governance structures in terms of they don't have regular free and fair elections.
46:12A lot of the population feels left out of the economic growth in those countries. So these are some of the common factors, but obviously they're all incredibly different. And some of those conflicts like between Rwanda and the DRC centre around, you know, fight for access to parts of the country that have minerals in Eastern Congo. In places like Ethiopia and Eritrea, some of these have more to do with kind of ethnic grievances. In Mali and Niger, Burkina Faso, you know, you have the growing presence of groups affiliated to the so-called Islamic states, terrorizing civilian populations. And in terms of concerted efforts to end these, one of the big criticisms of the continent this year has been the lack of a kind of assertive position from some of the regional bodies, like the African Union, like ECOWAS, the West African Regional Bloc, and their inability to kind of bring their members to heel.
47:08Any sense that might change next year? Yeah, the hope is that they will step up, unfortunately, at the moment, beyond kind of issuing statements and occasionally putting some of the leaders of, you know, political instability, you know, putting sanctions on them. They haven't been able to bring an end to these conflicts. But the reality is with lots of international players like the US, like the European Union, like the UK, withdrawing from giving aid to Africa, withdrawing from political interference in Africa to focus on their own economies and their own defence. The hope is that African elites, including the African Union and other regional bodies, will step up to the plate to fill in the gap that's left by their Western counterparts.
47:47If we turn now to the social state of things across the continent, Africa is the world's fastest growing continent. It's also the youngest, isn't it? And we've seen quite a few of these Gen Z led political protests in 2025 in countries ranging from Morocco to Madagascar. What kind of demands have we seen? And do you get the sense that the governments are beginning to listen to them? Or what do you foresee for 2026 when it comes to the young people who are clearly restless and want something different? I think certainly there is a high chance that we will see more of these Gen Z led protests in 2026.
48:29And that's because in terms of commonality, again, they're all different. But one thing that brings them together is this demand for better service delivery from their governments. In Morocco, young people wanted better health and education. They wanted the government to stop spending money on these big sports events like the 2030 FIFA World Cup or the 2025 Africa Cup of Nations. they say what they need is you know better hospitals better schools in madagascar they were complaining about poor access to water and electricity in kenya the young people there were against tax hikes that were planned in 2024 and they wanted the cost of living to come down so young people are increasingly and one thing that these countries have in common is that unlike you know countries that are led by military dictatorships there is a certain level of political freedom of expression in these countries.
49:20And the young people, they are highly educated. They have access to the internet and to social media. They're able to organize in ways that they couldn't before. And they kind of see the protests happening in other countries, both in Africa and in Asia. And they think to themselves, OK, how can we organize ourselves to meet our needs here? And so as more and more young people kind of see how things have been playing out, it hasn't been perfect. I mean, in Madagascar, they did manage to have the president leave, but instead he's been replaced by a non-popular former prime minister, which isn't exactly what people wanted.
49:52Be careful what you want, right? Exactly. So as much as other young people might see, okay, they haven't been as successful as they wanted. In Morocco, the government did promise to allocate an additional$15 billion to education and health in its 2026 budget. So if that's implemented, it would mean that there's 16 % more funding for health and education than there was last year. And lots of young people on the continent might see that as a win. And you might see other countries where young people are dissatisfied decide to organise their own protests next year. Mayani Jones, thanks very much. And that is all we have time for.
50:29A big thanks to all of the correspondents we've heard from in the last hour. I'm James Kamara-Sami. And from all of us here on the BBC World Service, we wish you a happy and healthy 2026. I've spent the last three decades trying to better understand money across the boardroom, the newsroom and the trading floor. That's longer than most podcast hosts have been alive. But even though I've got questions, join me, Merrin's Upset Web, every week for my show Merrin Talks Money from Bloomberg Podcasts, where I have in-depth conversations with fund managers, strategists and experts about how markets really work.
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James Coomarasamy speaks to BBC correspondents around the world about the people and places, trends and technology that they are going to be keeping an eye on over the next 12 months.
Much of that will be shaped by what has already happened in 2025 - we entered the year still focused on the wars in Ukraine, Gaza and Sudan. Now, people are worried about conflict spreading further.
Topics like trade, technology, migration and the health of democracy have helped shaped our politics. Will they continue to be the pressing issues for the year ahead?
Join Anthony Zurcher, senior North America correspondent, Asma Khalid, co-host of the The Global Story podcast, Faisal Islam, economics editor, Laura Bicker, China correspondent, Lyse Doucet, chief international correspondent and Mayeni Jones, Africa correspondent as they ponder what might lie ahead for 2026.
Producer: Ben Carter and Lucy Proctor Editor: Richard Fenton-Smith Sound engineer: Gareth Jones




