Emilia Wickstead: London Fashion Week

29 Sep 2025 · 26 min

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Podcast Notes: The Documentary Podcast - "Emilia Wickstead: London Fashion Week"

Episode Overview

  • Podcast Title: The Documentary Podcast
  • Episode Title: Emilia Wickstead: London Fashion Week
  • Host: Belinda Naylor
  • Release Date: (Date not provided in the transcript)
  • Focus: Behind the scenes of Emilia Wickstead's Spring/Summer 2026 collection and insights into her design process.

Key Themes

  1. Influences and Inspirations
  2. Childhood and Cultural Background:
  3. Emilia's design inspiration stems from her childhood in New Zealand and adolescence in Milan, alongside her mother's influence as a fashion designer.
  4. Current Muse: Robert Mapplethorpe
  5. Previous muse was inspired by Alfred Hitchcock's female characters.
  6. Current focus is on Mapplethorpe's contrasting themes of sensuality in both flowers and portraits, emphasizing the interplay of beauty and brutality.
  1. Design Process
  2. Collaboration and Teamwork:
  3. Emilia emphasizes the importance of teamwork within her design team, engaging in extensive discussions to shape their ideas.
  4. Concept Development:
  5. The design process begins with mood boards and evolves through draping on mannequins, focusing on key silhouettes and architectural lines.
  6. Attention to Detail:
  7. Each piece undergoes meticulous attention to detail, addressing elements like fabric choice, color palettes, and the fit of garments.
  1. Fashion Show Preparations
  2. Emotional Journey:
  3. Emilia articulates the mixture of excitement and anxiety leading up to a fashion show, comparing the experience to giving birth.
  4. Final Touches:
  5. The podcast captures the frantic energy of final fittings, styling decisions, and the challenge of creating a coherent collection narrative.
  6. Show Dynamics:
  7. Discussion of how models are fitted and how the collection is narrowed down to key pieces for the runway, ensuring variety and cohesion.

Design Highlights

  • Spring/Summer 2026 Collection:
  • Features feminine silhouettes with floral prints and bright colors.
  • Incorporates elements inspired by Robert Mapplethorpe’s photography, including a sensual and romantic portrayal of flowers.
  • Introduction of denim and checks, reflecting a nod to rebellion and the juxtaposition of masculine and feminine aesthetics.
  • Key Techniques:
  • Use of Godets: Triangular inserts in skirts to create flouncy silhouettes.
  • Exploration of color influenced by Mapplethorpe’s photography, including bold and pastel shades.

Personal Reflections

  • Emilia shares her personal connection to her work, stating that she feels a sense of success when she sees her designs worn by women in everyday life.
  • Highlights her perfectionist nature, admitting she never feels like she has completely "nailed" a piece but continuously strives for better.

Cultural Significance

  • The episode sheds light on the emotional and cultural weight that fashion can carry, particularly in representing identity and heritage.
  • Emilia discusses her collaboration with Indigenous artists, emphasizing the importance of storytelling through design, particularly in her work with Air New Zealand.

Conclusion

  • The podcast concludes with reflections on the journey of preparing for a fashion show, the emotional weight of the experience, and the sheer joy of creating and sharing her vision with the world.

Key Takeaways

  • Fashion is a blend of personal history, cultural influences, and artistic exploration.
  • The design process is collaborative, requiring significant dedication and artistry.
  • Fashion shows encapsulate the culmination of extensive preparation, emotion, and creativity, providing a platform for designers to express their vision and connect with audiences.

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0:00Emilia Wickstead:This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK.

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1:05Emilia Wickstead:Welcome to the documentary in the studio. I'm Belinda Naylor and I love fashion.

1:17Emilia Wickstead:The New Zealand designer Amelia Wickstead has invited me for a behind the scenes look at the clothes she's creating for her collection for spring summer 2026. Known for her feminine silhouettes, floral prints and bright colours, her fans include Catherine, Princess of Wales, who chose an elegant burgundy dress to welcome President Trump on his recent state visit to the UK. I caught up with Amelia early in the summer to find out how her ideas were evolving for her show at London Fashion Week in September.

1:53Belinda Naylor:we are pretty far advanced with that process with my design team we sort of sit around in a group and talk really for hours on end about our different inspirations we would have started this process really two three months ago and then we're still continuously changing the narrative the muse the colors the fabrics but I'm very much thinking of what's the uniform for my customer and so me being a real uniform lover I find it just incredibly joyful and fun and not too strenuous whereas the show I always put a lot of extra pressure on myself and on my team and I think that's just the nature of the business.

2:37Emilia Wickstead:Amelia Stahl is influenced by her childhood in New Zealand, her adolescence in Milan and her fashion designer mum.

2:49Belinda Naylor:We're surrounded by magazines that I've collected over the years. My mother was a big collector of British, Italian and American Vogue and I've continued to collect the exact same magazines and lots of pinnings on my pinboard. There's a shoot that we've just worked on, we're just making the final cuts and edits for that.

3:11Emilia Wickstead:I know that your previous muse was Alfred Hitchcock's women, who were memorably women like Grace Kelly, Kim Novak, who were super elegant, super smart, and that really plays into your strengths. Do you have a muse for your upcoming seasons?

3:27Belinda Naylor:So at the moment, our muse is actually a photographer, Robert Maple Thorpe.

3:34Emilia Wickstead:Many fashion designers focus on a muse, a person or a character who embodies their vision for their designs. Last season, Amelia found inspiration in the women who starred in the films of Alfred Hitchcock. So I was quite surprised that Amelia's next choice was Robert Mapplethorpe, the controversial New York photographer famous for his erotic photographs of naked men. For Amelia, it is black and white photographs of women and sculptural flowers that excite her.

4:06Belinda Naylor:his shadows from his lighting and the way that he I guess looked at a flower through a different lens but it's the really fun part right now because when I am thinking of my muse or my subject that then I will drape onto a mannequin and then I will place onto a garment we call a lot of our shapes and silhouettes blocks we'll have blocks that we've used over the years and we'll bring back the block, which is the shape of a garment, the fit, it's the cut. And then we will use that block, but we will perhaps drape something onto that block. So we're always thinking of our real woman, because we know that she likes that shape, that silhouette and that block.

4:48Belinda Naylor:But then the dream, I guess, and the fantasy gets pinned really onto it. And that's how the initial designs and strong details that are the birth of a collection come to life. And then I love the idea that you become so obsessed and in tune with this person and this character that then you want to wear what she's wearing that is kind of the way that I look at it do you dream about it do you wake up dreaming of

5:12Emilia Wickstead:Alfred Hitchcock's women and Robert Mapplethorpe I do and I think a lot about them but I think that

5:18Belinda Naylor:is a very good sign of becoming obsessed with your inspiration and when you're obsessed I always say then a good collection comes out of it when you're not those are my worst collections

5:28Emilia Wickstead:but I think Robert Mapplethorpe and obviously we know this might change is such an interesting person because you mentioned his beautiful sensual flowers but of course there's the other side of his photography another very sensual side yes it's a real juxtaposition it's a real juxtaposition and I think that's that's fascinating because your your clothes are very sensual and they really celebrate a woman's body and I'm sure his sensual photographs he's taken of primarily men must feed into that vision as well for sure and I think that that will be a really interesting

5:57Belinda Naylor:play for us as a brand and that's what I kind of like that there's a little bit of safe playing but also something that's really going to push me perhaps out of my comfort zone out of those things that feel a little bit I guess off piste comes really great new creative ideas and so I kind of hope that with this collection we don't know what we're going to get it should have a lot of surprise elements hopefully.

6:22Emilia Wickstead:I'm sure any fashion designer would say that they are terrified the minutes leading up to the big reveal. How do you feel at that point?

6:30Belinda Naylor:So I would say it's funny, it changes over time as you grow older. A good collection and a good show, all of that comes from like being quite obsessed and being very dedicated and very rigid with your thought and your process and your working hours. The feeling of it would always be a sense of relief at the end of the season and I would always describe it of like almost the sensation of like I care so much that it's almost, you know, giving birth to something.

6:59Emilia Wickstead:Would you call yourself a perfectionist?

7:01Belinda Naylor:Absolutely, and a control freak.

7:03Emilia Wickstead:Well, I think control freakery probably is a good thing in the fashion world. Is there ever a point where you think, I've nailed it? Is there a sort of a piece that you thought, yeah, that's exactly how I wanted it to look?

7:15Belinda Naylor:Funnily enough, no. When I wanted to start a business and when I was at school and my biology teacher went around the room and said, what does everyone want to be when they grow up? and I said I just want to be famous and successful. The biggest pat on the back for me is even if I walk into the studio, into the office and I see the girls wearing Amelia Wickstead or I go to a coat check, I always use this example because it did happen once where like four coats came out and they were Amelia Wickstead. That for me is the biggest part of the success story and I don't ever feel like I've made it. I always think that I can do better in terms of design and also as a businesswoman.

7:50Emilia Wickstead:While Amelia now lives and works in London, it was her love for the country of her birth and an idea of creating uniforms that led to her dream commission for an airline.

8:01Belinda Naylor:I left New Zealand at 14 but for me New Zealand is very much my home and where my roots are and I always wanted to design the Air New Zealand uniforms ever since I was a little girl and so obviously this one was a very big emotive collection because I had to enter a competition so I was up against other designers you know everyone said oh but it's a uniform and how does that work like it's so different and I said well actually it's not because everything that I design is a uniform and so that when they would say well you have to move a lot and you've got to lift bags and you've got to get from here to here and sit and stand and so forth I'm like well we sort of do that every day in our lives I'm designing for every day and every woman in the world what was it like signing for men well to be perfectly honest one of the biggest parts of the project was really listening to the people of Air New Zealand and listening to what they loved about their current uniform and it was my job to modernize it, to slightly adapt it, to Amelia Wickstify it but ultimately if someone is very comfortable in a silhouette and a shape that has worked for 12 years I'm not here to change that or to interrupt that.

9:07Belinda Naylor:So yeah so it's been an incredible ride, it's been almost three years I think of it and a real journey and I cried a lot along the journey and I felt very blessed that I was given the opportunity to do something from the place that I was born and that made me the person I am today.

9:28Emilia Wickstead:One of the people that you worked with, you've been very inspired by the Indigenous people of New Zealand.

9:33Belinda Naylor:Yes, so I had met 1992 around seven years ago when I was working on a project that was called Ordinary yet extraordinary New Zealand women, you know, athletes to scientists, to all sorts of different walks of life and showcased all of my creative ideas and designs on New Zealand women. We had a feature of six pages in British Vogue on this story and Te Rangitu did a beautiful blessing for our launch event and that was when I was introduced to his work as an artist. So he's a artist and which is Maori tattoos but he also has worked with the likes of Hermes and so that's when I saw his print design come to life on fabric there were two roles that I had to follow one was use the color purple and also that print design was going to play a big part in the uniform I very quickly called him up and we worked together it was wonderful I learned a lot from him.

10:30Belinda Naylor:I'm not Maori. I have Maori cousins and my father is half Samoan. It was really important for me to understand storytelling elements of Maori culture and to place that onto fabric. I guess my dream, our dream, was that when you're wearing the uniform you're feeling incredibly empowered by what the print design represents. So there are huge hidden messages about, you know, like I said our ancestors, just about our country. And the idea behind that is, you know, Maori chiefs wore Maori cloaks. And the idea that you're putting that cloak on because you've earned it. And also you're carrying a certain role of a lot of responsibility and pride.

11:18Belinda Naylor:But it's quite nice because it is very playful, which is very true to the airline, but it's incredibly sophisticated and it's very deep in meaning. So hopefully that really shines and people talk about it.

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13:05Emilia Wickstead:You're listening to the documentary in the studio from the BBC World Service with designer Amelia Wickstead. Now, back to the current job.

13:15Belinda Naylor:We're looking at one of the silhouettes for our spring-summer collection and I would say this is one of our sort of pieces that we've felt a little bit challenged with because we are deciding on our key silhouettes for the collection. And when we decide on our key shapes and our key architectural lines, we like to make sure that it's seen throughout. And so I guess we're a little challenged with this one. We're playing on what we call godets in the skirt, which I think is bringing this particular silhouette to life.

13:46Emilia Wickstead:So for people who don't know Amelia, what is a godet?

13:49Belinda Naylor:So a godet is basically a part of a circle. So it would be like a triangular piece that we insert into a seam and then what it does is it sort of flounces out in a beautiful shape. I guess if you were to look at that you'd look at it as like almost like a piece of the pie of the circle and it jumps out. It really elevates the silhouette because it gives it a bit of a 3D illusion but then it's also got a real sort of feminine feel to it and depending on what fabric you choose and in this case we've got quite a spongy what we call our summer cotton and it's all top stitched and so it will really jump out and it will actually feel quite powerful.

14:26Emilia Wickstead:It's a beautiful lemon color. Is this the color that it will be or is this that this is a try it out? So underneath you'll see the

14:33Belinda Naylor:calico which is the shape of the dress and then what we will do is we will often pin the fabric that we believe the silhouette will be made in and this is where we get to I guess challenge and play a little bit within the design team and collectively to decide you know what is the best color for the silhouette which is the best fabrication do we like the top stitching do we not so if you imagine there's so much development that goes into like one very simple dress what looks like a simple dress we're looking at whether we're going to double tear this dress or single tear it so you know there's a lot of love that goes into this one idea but you can tell and what I'm looking

15:08Emilia Wickstead:at the lovely fitted bodice is very flattering it's not too tight as you say it's a circular The skirt.

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15:15Belinda Naylor:And as you can see, it's something that I love doing as well. And you can see this through the calico, but then it really comes to life in a fabrication with top stitching. We'll look at a lot of vintage design lines. So I always love to think, you know, when someone looks at a silhouette and they think, oh, that's just a dress. But actually when you look at where our bust seam is and how it's like connected to the rest of the seams and how this seam here and the shape that it's creating over the bust, how we can like reshape proportions and silhouettes and just to do things differently.

15:44Emilia Wickstead:And are there any vintage designs that you are particularly drawn to?

15:48Belinda Naylor:I would say there are vintage old world designers before my time that I'm definitely drawn to. So that might be Balenciaga or Christian Dior or Lanvin and things like that. And I think that they're the key masters.

16:01Emilia Wickstead:Amelia, when we last met, you were talking about blocks. Yes. So you take out a favourite design and you bring it back. Yes. The dress we're looking at... Sometimes. Not always. Or we develop a whole new block and a new design sort of thing. So the dress we're looking at now, is this a new one?

16:15Belinda Naylor:This is new. But it will take things from our quintessential block, like we know that this neckline really works well and the underarm and the fit of the armhole, but this would be a new block, essentially.

16:26Emilia Wickstead:And we were talking about Robert Mapplethorpe. Yes. He is your key muse. We talked about these beautiful flower photographs. Yes. And in fact, we have actually... We've just been looking at a few... Oh, amazing. Well done. So we thought it would be quite fun to talk us through whether you've used any of these photographs of references. We can absolutely imagine this as a beautiful slip dress in silk satin. What's going on in your head to how it is realised?

16:58Belinda Naylor:Essentially, the flowers that you're referring to, you will see in all of our print designs for the season. You'll see a real tribute to him and, I guess, these beautiful photographs that he took. it's almost like the flowers come to life. They're quite sensual and quite romantic.

17:19Belinda Naylor:You're going to see very bold blues and bold oranges and a lot of pastel as well. You know, there'll be like a hint of lemon or a hint of lilac. These images have played a huge part of inspiration in the collection. And exactly like you described this little slip dress, it's so funny because when I talk about my silhouettes for the collection, We have lots of different fabrications and lots of different textures, but where I've taken a lot of pride this season is to use a lot of silk twills to lighten up the collection a little bit in terms of weight and body. And so I think when you look at these flowers, they feel very light, quite airy, and they feel quite at ease, really.

17:58Belinda Naylor:And I think that as a character and as a person, Robert was quite fluid, experimental. Even in his photographs, you would see this radical sensuality, but then you would see lots of explorations of identity through all his female portraits. And I guess I love that contrast of beauty and brutality and softness and severity and art and desire. And I think that's what I love so much about him and his photographs. We've got these beautiful, transparent, quite sensual, but pop-colour chiffon, which again are really playing into his colour palette, but again very different for us. Almost there's like a little bit of bondage in the smallest of details of the gather.

18:38Emilia Wickstead:Clearly, Robert Mapplethorpe has sparked something in your mind that's made you pivot into the masculine-feminine shapes that you've been describing. And in fact, the photographs we're looking at now are all in black and white. And he did photograph a lot in black and white. And I'm interested in how you obviously have your favourite colours. You have the Amelia Wickstead palette, which is bright and vibrant. How did you decide on the colours? Was it just like, I love this blue, I love this orange?

19:09Belinda Naylor:Honestly, it really came out in his... So to be honest, when I was looking at his beautiful photographs of flowers, I looked solely at the colours within those photographs. So, you know, we've got like acid lime, bright yellow, this kind of indigo melange, muted florals. The colour palette essentially came from all of those. It's how we've also used the colours. So we've got a lot of checks and we've used how he has used contrast colors together. So you can see that we haven't done it on a floral print, but we've done it on checks, but we've used how he's used colors and put those all together.

19:44Belinda Naylor:It all feels a little bit different for us. And I guess that Robert Mapplethorpe, like how he did with his own work, he was always pushing the boundaries. I guess it's made me push the boundaries a little bit automatically without even really thinking too much about it. And so you'll see that come to life. and then we have for example Denim which again we've touched on in the past and we've done very lightly and I think that's a very big part of this collection I think it's a real sort of tribute to him and his character and all of the I guess the artists you know I even think of Bruce Springsteen

20:15Emilia Wickstead:quite a lot who I'm obsessed with who really kind of rocks the the check shirt and jeans and has

20:20Belinda Naylor:got a lovely male backside and he was one of his friends and you know of course you think Denim you think Stripe, you think Gingham. I guess it's sort of an unapologetic nod to Rebellion, really.

20:31Emilia Wickstead:Are you enjoying it, Amelia? Or are you at the kind of stage where your head's about to explode?

20:37Belinda Naylor:I never, listen, I always enjoy a collection because it makes your adrenaline sort of like rush and you get very excited. My team, I think, love to probably roll their eyes at me when I'll be like, yes, but I think we could, no, I think we haven't really exhausted this idea.

20:51Emilia Wickstead:So when these ideas are manifesting themselves, you're looking at the photographs, does it start as a pencil drawing does it start as a verbal instruction what what does it actually look like before you speak to your team or before you take it to the next level it really depends

21:08Belinda Naylor:season upon season but I would say the traditional route and way that we do things is that it starts from mood boards I'm a very very visual creature but also I can see a silhouette in a calico you You know, like we saw on Anna today, our model, I can see it on a calico, on a body, and I can see it in an image. And probably I see better that way than through a sketch. So yeah, walk on through, like for example, these are piles of fabric that I have to go through for the next season. And just over here are some of our Robert Maple Thorpe prints that I was talking about. So this, for example, is where we've used his tones of his acid green that's on a black one.

21:50Emilia Wickstead:Amelia's team is busy in the workshop bringing her ideas to life. There is a gentleman who is ironing the paper pattern completely flat and it forms the bodice and the skirt of the dress and it's essential that he irons it flat because any wrinkles on this piece of paper will change the whole cut of the fabric and ruin it and every millimetre counts. Each pattern is named. It's engineering. It is engineering with material, and it's incredibly accurate and precise. You can sort of see how we're playing on all the different colours. I can see the checks that you were talking about, which are the most gorgeous pastel colours.

22:32Emilia Wickstead:So feminine, yet they've got that... They've got a pop. Is that silk setting?

22:36Belinda Naylor:So this is the silk twill, 100 % silk. It's a real tribute, I guess, to his photography. You know, this is our version of showing his incredible lighting and how it creates shadow and how we've done it in a painterly way.

22:49Emilia Wickstead:That's going to look so beautiful on a woman's body, anyone's body actually. While I'm here, I'm looking at Amelia's mood board. I can see the denim that she mentioned and the flowers and these very figure-hugging dresses in twirls and colours. Even in their early stages, they look absolutely gorgeous. and we're surrounded by lots of finished dresses which no doubt will be gracing the red carpet very soon. It's two days before Amelia's show for London Fashion Week and there is a sense of calm. Amelia, tell me how you're feeling at this moment in time. How's it all going?

23:30Belinda Naylor:I'm actually feeling OK. Funnily enough, I spent the week in New York prior to this so I came back on Sunday, which is something I've never done before. we had some big events with our wholesalers and our VIC clients and so strangely everyone keeps saying why you succumb and I said I think I felt the energy of New York City and then have come back to London full of sort of this certain type of energy and have just rolled straight into show which is maybe something I should do more often.

23:59Emilia Wickstead:And tell me about the process for those of us unfamiliar with London Fashion Week or any fashion week what happens two or three days before?

24:06Belinda Naylor:Even though I feel slightly calm, I think inside I'm not. I mean, we just had a dress on for two and a half hours that we've been playing with and toying with that we'll walk down the runway and someone might think it's the most simple of dresses. So, you know, it's interesting, but so much goes into that one piece.

24:23Emilia Wickstead:I saw, was it your house model Anna wearing this incredible chiffon dress? Yes. Talk me through how you fitted this beautiful chiffon dress. Yes.

24:32Belinda Naylor:So I love the idea of having block colours in our collections. they just play like so beautifully as a juxtaposition up against our prince but interestingly with that dress it is one of those moments where it is three days before the show and I'm thinking do I pull that dress out is it worthy of the show the theme that we're in right now as a brand and so yeah we'll see if the chiffon dress makes the runway and Amelia I'm interested in how

24:55Emilia Wickstead:you cull looks because not every look makes the catwalk am I right that's correct so we narrow

25:03Belinda Naylor:it down we bring in a stylist who always has in theory a fresh take on everything so that's very very helpful because then we'll start to edit the collection the key part of that is making sure that nothing feels too repetitious but that there is repetition so that you can see this red thread that goes through your collection you can understand who the woman is who the muse is and what the feeling is so it's a it's quite frantic and I think now you know the hardest part I guess is for the creative director, which is myself, to sort of analyse everything and not torment myself a little, and then for the workroom to have to keep up to the pace of getting everything ready for the show.

25:42Belinda Naylor:Tomorrow we'll see models come in. They often come through quite late at night on a Saturday because they're going from casting to casting. Often you don't know if you have models confirmed, and so we might be fitting things at midnight, one o 'clock in the morning, that then still have to be altered for the next day.

25:58Emilia Wickstead:We did talk about how you were going to turn your muse into clothing. Talk me through where we are now.

26:06Belinda Naylor:We've really, really, you know, paid tribute to his Flower Still Life images, which they had that even more intensity or the same intensity as his portraits. So I think you'll see those on our silk twills. And, you know, we've done an adaptation of them, but using his colour palettes and you'll see that on the female form. So I think that's going to be really emotive and beautiful.

26:27Emilia Wickstead:And have you got look number one yet?

26:29Belinda Naylor:No. But I always do that the night before.

26:33Emilia Wickstead:Okay, so for the benefit of our audience, you may not be filled with look number one. That is the first look that you see in the show.

26:40Belinda Naylor:I think the first look is the biggest part of the story. Yeah. And I think that hopefully the entire collection has captured you.

26:46Emilia Wickstead:Because I think, I believe that you're kind of thinking between eight and ten minutes for the duration of the show. How many looks can you fit into that time period?

26:56Belinda Naylor:It depends how fast they walk or how big your space is, but between 30 to 40, so it's quite a lot. But I think it leaves a lasting impression, and I think almost the faster it goes, the better.

27:06Emilia Wickstead:We talked about the dresses. What happens everywhere else in terms of shoes or jewellery or makeup or hair? Do you have any sort of thoughts about what they're going to look like?

27:16Belinda Naylor:We have our hair and makeup trial tomorrow, and we're already thinking about who our muse is, so we've created a board of who that girl is. And I think it's a real sort of tribute, I do think, to Patti Smith. And just thinking about how sort of unfussy she was and how real she was and how he captured her, you know, in his photographs.

27:38Emilia Wickstead:Mapplethorpe was Patti Smith's lover. He took the photograph on the cover of her album Horses, an iconic image which is androgynous and also feminine. And I saw when I was upstairs a whole load of brogues. So are the models going to be wearing flat shoes?

27:55Belinda Naylor:Yes, they are. It's what I imagine Robert would have been wearing in New York City, walking down the street. And so I wanted to pair each garment with a pair of, I guess, his shoes so they can walk in his steps.

28:10Emilia Wickstead:All those months of hard work and late nights culminates in a 10-minute showcase of the very best of Amelia's designs at her store in London's Chelsea. It turns out that look number one was a glorious pale yellow silk checked dress.

28:28Belinda Naylor:You're nothing without your team and your friends and your family. So thank you very, very much because without that, there isn't Amelia Wicks.

28:35Emilia Wickstead:The show felt really intimate. I was one of only 60 people in the room, including one of the most influential people in the fashion world Anna Wintour from American Vogue You've been listening to Amelia Wickstead for the documentary In the Studio from the BBC World Service It was presented and produced by me, Belinda Naylor and the executive producer was Paula McGrath

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Inspiration for Emilia Wickstead’s luxury fashion brand comes from her childhood home in New Zealand, her adolescence in Italy’s most fashionable city Milan, but also from her hard-working fashion designer mother. Her feminine silhouettes and creative use of colour and textiles have made her a popular choice among members of the British Royal Family and Hollywood celebrities. Belinda Naylor has had a sneak preview of how Emilia’s Spring/Summer 2026 collection has taken shape – referencing the romance of bygone eras with a contemporary twist. Emilia explains the importance of teamwork, being a perfectionist and how she still gets a thrill from seeing women wear the designs from her own label, which she established in 2008.

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