In short
Hungary’s April 12 election and the “battle for Hungary” between incumbent Viktor Orbán/Fidesz and opposition leader Péter Magyar/TISZA, framed as a fight over the architecture of power, media control, and Hungary’s EU/Ukraine/Russia position.
Guests (BBC Monitoring guides)
- Amitiz Sedki: Hungarian BBC Monitoring colleague; guides the episode’s overview of the election narratives and polling momentum.
- Joffia Paulikovic: Hungarian BBC World Service colleague; explains how Orbán reshaped Hungary’s media environment (regulators, ownership, state advertising).
- Rita Palfi: Hungarian BBC World Service journalist; describes how independent media and audiences adapted amid government pressure.
Key claims
- Orbán’s system (“Nemzeti Együttműködés Rendszere”) centralizes state, party, business, and media; competitiveness ≠ democratic renewal.
- Magyar is an insider-turned-outsider who converts moral outrage into a “promise of repair,” not a fully formed democratic alternative.
- Media is plural on paper but dominated in practice via captured regulators, pro-government ownership (over 500 outlets under KESMA), and state advertising.
Notable examples
- February 2024 child-abuse clemency scandal (Katalin Novák; fallout shakes Fidesz moral authority).
- Facebook-driven campaigning (“digital conquest”) and “Fight Club”/Digital Civic Circles tactics.
- Ukraine/EU aid blocking used as campaign material; Zelensky’s remarks about “one person” who could stop it.
- AI fear-politics video (child asks when father comes home; cuts to execution).
Written by AI. May contain mistakes. Listen to the episode to check what was said.
Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOPeter Modjar: The Rising Opposition
3:17 to 5:48
Discover the background and rise of opposition leader Peter Modjar.
“where we look at the world through the lens of its media, exploring the narratives, the propaganda, and the disinformation.”
The Political Scandal that Shook Fidesz
5:48 to 7:54
Understand the impact of a scandal on Fidesz and Modjar's rise.
“The newly minted politician seized the momentum and sat down for a heart-to-heart with the host of a popular YouTube show, Partizan.”
The Evolution of Viktor Orban's Politics
7:54 to 9:20
Examine Viktor Orban's political journey and its implications.
“So he is not presenting himself as a classic liberal opposition figure.”
The EU's Challenges with Hungary
9:20 to 13:02
Explore Hungary's complex relationship with the European Union.
“Orban himself became nationally known in that period as one of the emblematic voices of post-communist change.”
Orbán's Campaign Strategy and Political Tactics
13:02 to 14:03
Analyze Orbán's campaign strategy and his political maneuvers.
“when the EU is trying to hold a united line on Ukraine.”
Orbán's Political Strategy and Enemy Framing
14:03 to 16:46
Understand how Orbán identifies enemies to consolidate power.
“Fidesz is not merely a party competing in a democracy, but the organizing force of political life.”
The Reshaping of Hungary's Media Landscape
17:27 to 21:46
Explore how Orbán's government has transformed the media environment.
“The architecture of power itself has deep relevance for the most fundamental act in a democracy.”
Challenges Faced by Independent Media
21:47 to 24:43
Discover the struggles of independent media in a controlled environment.
“However, as the government media space became increasingly politicized, so did the opposition media space.”
Peter Magyar's Rise and Campaign Strategy
24:44 to 28:00
Learn how Peter Magyar leverages social media to challenge Orbán.
“but Magyar found momentum in the one arena that remained harder to seal off completely.”
The Rise of Peter Magyar: A New Political Force
28:00 to 29:24
Explore how Peter Magyar emerged as a credible alternative to Orban in Hungary's political landscape.
“I think something that to me is really interesting about Peter Magyar is that he learned a lot from Orban.”
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Fidesz's Shifting Campaign Strategies
29:24 to 31:37
Learn about Fidesz's adaptation to new EU advertising regulations and the rise of digital tactics.
“Transylvania is in Romania, so he would travel to a neighbouring country to campaign for the Hungarian elections, right?”
Manipulation in Political Campaigning
31:37 to 34:29
Understand the use of smear tactics and emotional manipulation in Hungary's political campaigns.
“This was really a mobilization of core Fidesz supporters who were then encouraged in this new role to really get on Facebook and share.”
The Ukraine Factor in Hungarian Elections
34:29 to 37:08
Discover how the conflict in Ukraine has influenced Hungarian political narratives and campaigns.
“has denied having to do anything with the website bearing his name.”
Economic Policies as Political Tools
37:08 to 40:14
Examine how Fidesz leverages economic policies to bolster support ahead of elections.
“The Hungarian government described Zelensky's words as an open threat, and Orbán himself answered by saying that he did not think this was only about him personally, but about Hungary.”
The Stakes of Hungary's Upcoming Election
40:14 to 42:00
Analyze the implications of Hungary's election results on its political future and stability.
“And on the other end of the spectrum, they also introduced 13th and 14th pension.”
Exploring Electoral Challenges in Hungary
42:00 to 42:16
Discussing the potential challenges in Hungary's electoral process.
“discussing the possibility that in a narrower contested result, Hungary could face a slowed, obstructed, or maybe even an openly disputed handover.”
Transcript
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1:33Viktor Orban:On the 12th of April, Hungary heads to the polls, and the stakes couldn't be higher. Viktor Orban, Europe's longest-serving prime minister, has a serious rival, but also a considerable head start. This is a Fidesz-KDNP-nagygyurus. We are here.
1:53Peter Magyar:Orbán became nationally known as one of the emblematic voices of post-communist change. So the Orbán we know today is not a break with his past, so much as the result of a long political repositioning towards power, identity and control.
2:11Viktor Orban:Viktor Orbán has powerful allies, from the Kremlin to the White House. But his biggest challenge is coming from within. a once loyal party insider who has turned against him.
2:27Viktor Orban:Peter Modjar has taken on a system built to keep the incumbent in power, yet he's managed to generate unexpected momentum.
2:36Peter Magyar:He has become the most credible vessel for accumulated frustration. What he is really selling is not a detailed ideological project, so much as a promise of repair.
2:48Viktor Orban:This election is shaping up to be one of Europe's most consequential in years, with the potential to redefine Hungary's role in the region. In this episode, we explore the unequal playing field of the country's election machinery. We cut through the exuberance of the campaign and distill the core messages driving each camp.
3:13Viktor Orban:Welcome to the documentary from the BBC World Service. I'm Krasi Ivanova-Twig, and this is the global jigsaw from BBC Monitoring, where we look at the world through the lens of its media, exploring the narratives, the propaganda, and the disinformation. Radio Tehran. We were not invited to the territory of Ukraine.
3:36Peter Magyar:Western countries are not the international community. That era has finished.
3:46Viktor Orban:Our guide to these elections is our Hungarian BBC monitoring colleague Amitiz Sedki. We'll start with the new player, Peter Modjar, who, according to most polls, is outrunning Viktor Orban on his turf.
4:00Peter Magyar:Peter Modjar is an opposition leader of the Hungarian TISA party who emerged from inside the world of FIDAS. He is a lawyer by training and the former husband of Judith Varga, Orban's former justice minister. And for years he moved within the broader governing elite, including in state-linked positions. So when he turned against the system, he did so as someone who had lived inside its networks, not as a traditional opposition figure, attacking from the margins. He built up a Facebook presence under the slogan, Nefe attack, do not be afraid. which became an early rallying phrase around him.
4:42Viktor Orban:Let's pause for a moment on the name. TISA isn't just an acronym for respect and freedom. It's also the name of the mighty river running through eastern Hungary, celebrated in poems every school child learns. So what pushed Peter Modjar to break out of the inner circle? To answer that, we need to rewind back to February 2024, when a political scandal sent shockwaves through Hungary.
5:09Peter Magyar:Hungary's president, Katalin Novak, had granted clemency to a man convicted of helping to cover up child sexual abuse in a state-run children's home. The scandal was absolutely devastating for Fidesz because it struck directly at the core of its claims that it stood for child protection, family values and Christian moral order.
5:36Peter Magyar:And the fallout brought down Novak and also Yudit Varga, and that was the moment when the Fidesz Moral Authority was suddenly shaken and it created an opening for Péter Magyar.
5:49Viktor Orban:The newly minted politician seized the momentum and sat down for a heart-to-heart with the host of a popular YouTube show, Partizan. A Fidesz azért van itt, ahol van, mert van egy védés-dagyszövetség.
6:04Peter Magyar:In that interview, Magyar attacked the inner workings of their Fidesz from the inside. So that interview was the moment when Magyar became a political actor in his own right.
6:17Viktor Orban:This newcomer comes from the ruling party of the prime minister. So how much of an alternative to Fidesz politics does he represent? And just like Tisa, the name Fides also carries a symbolic word. It's an abbreviation of Alliance of Young Democrats. But the word itself from Latin echoes ideas of faith, trust and loyalty.
6:42Peter Magyar:What makes him important is not just that he is popular. It is that he emerged from the Fides' own social and political ecosystem at a moment when that system had been wounded by scandal. And then he used insider credibility to turn moral outrage into political momentum. That gave him a kind of authority with conservative and disillusioned voters who would never have trusted the old opposition.
7:11Viktor Orban:What is he promising to those who vote for him?
7:13Peter Magyar:TISA's 2026 program centers on overhauling healthcare, education, welfare, child protection, better transport, while improving ties with the EU and NATO.
7:33Peter Magyar:A cleaner, more functional state. In practical terms, that means tackling corruption, unlocking frozen EU funds, cutting taxes for lower earners, also introducing a wealth tax on the very rich, and setting a path towards euro adoption and reducing Hungary's long-term dependence on Russia. So he is not presenting himself as a classic liberal opposition figure. Tisa is much better understood as a centre-right protest vehicle with a reform message.
8:06Viktor Orban:Both contenders may be cut from the same cloth, but that's almost beside the point. Because this contest isn't really about whose vision is sharper. It's about something more fundamental, the architecture of power itself.
8:21Peter Magyar:He has exposed weakness in Orban's system, not because he necessarily represents a fully formed democratic alternative. And that distinction matters because electoral competitiveness is not the same thing as democratic renewal. He is in many ways a product of the system, now trying to defeat the system. And that is part of the reason he has become so politically dangerous to Orban.
8:49Viktor Orban:The incumbent is a veteran in every sense, the longest-serving leader in the EU. Over a long political career, he has travelled a remarkable arc, from a young fighter against communism to the self-proclaimed architect of illiberal democracy.
9:11Peter Magyar:In the late 1980s, around the democratic transition of 1989, Fidesz emerged as a young anti-communist liberal party, strongly pro-Western and anti-Soviet. Orban himself became nationally known in that period as one of the emblematic voices of post-communist change.
9:38Peter Magyar:But over the course of the 1990s, as the political landscape shifted, Pides moved steadily from liberal youth politics into conservative and then increasingly nationalist majoritarian politics. So the Orbán we know today is not a break with his past so much as the result of a long political repositioning towards power, identity and control.
10:11Peter Magyar:When we talk about the system itself, we are referring to the so-called Nemzeti Együttműködés Rendszere, so the system of national cooperation. After the 2010 election, Orbán framed this as a historic break with the messy post-1989 transition, And as the start of a more unified national era, what followed was the construction of a highly centralized system in which the state, the governing party, business interests and much of the media were drawn into a new hierarchy of political loyalty.
10:51Viktor Orban:The system Amitiz describes sits uneasily with the biggest structure Hungary belongs to, the European Union.
10:58Peter Magyar:Orbán has repeatedly used vetoes, delays and brinkmanship to hold up collective decisions while also accusing Brussels of trying to dominate Hungary. Orbán rejects the liberal rights-based integrationist logic at the heart of today's EU.
11:23Peter Magyar:He prefers a Europe of strong nation-states, conservative cultural politics, and leaders with much more freedom to shape their own systems at home.
11:33Viktor Orban:This matters all the more at a time when a devastating war is raging in Europe.
11:38Peter Magyar:The European Union failed to approve a$54 billion aid package last night. It was rejected after Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orban blocked... openly furious after he blocked a major 90 billion euro Ukraine loan package and was accused of using EU decision making as part of his domestic election strategy.
11:59Viktor Orban:The loan remains blocked
12:00Peter Magyar:because one leader is not honoring his word. He is seen as someone who can actively paralyze the union at critical moments. Hungary has had billions of euros in EU funding frozen or contested because of concerns over corruption, democratic backsliding, judicial independence, LGBTQ rights, and the broader erosion of constitutional norms.
12:26Viktor Orban:And talking of the war in Ukraine, let's address the elephant in the room.
12:36Peter Magyar:In the eyes of many in Brussels, Orbán is the EU leader most willing to maintain political closeness to Moscow while Russia wages war on Ukraine. So just for context, since the full-scale invasion, Orbán's foreign minister, Peter Siyarto, has made 16 official visits to Moscow. This is not just a matter of tone, and that makes him uniquely problematic because he is seen as someone whose behavior can align with Kremlin interests at the very moment when the EU is trying to hold a united line on Ukraine. Basically, he wants the benefits of belonging without accepting the discipline of belonging.
13:18Viktor Orban:Modiar has been openly critical of the Orbán government's closeness to Russia.
13:29Viktor Orban:We'll return to the role Ukraine and Russia played in the campaign in more detail later. But back now to Viktor Orban and his election promises.
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13:39Peter Magyar:Viktor Orban's party, Fidesz, did not publish a campaign programme since 2010. On the surface level, he says he is defending sovereignty, peace, stability and the national interest.
14:02Peter Magyar:But more deeply, he is fighting to keep in place a model of power in which the state and the governing party and the loyal business networks and much of the media are aligned in a single political order. Fidesz is not merely a party competing in a democracy, but the organizing force of political life.
14:28Peter Magyar:Orbán's politics work by constantly identifying an enemy and presenting himself as the shield against it. Brussels stands for outside constraints, rules, oversight, liberal norms and limits on what he can do at home. Migrants were turned into a civilizational threat. Disorder, insecurity, demographic fear, and the idea of a nation being overrun. Liberal elites function as a cultural enemy, detached, cosmopolitan, morally alien, and contemptuous of ordinary people. NGOs are also framed as agents of foreign influence, not as civil society, but as political tools working against the nation. from within.
15:16Peter Magyar:And another notable example, George Soros, became the personalized symbol of that entire worldview. Globalist, liberal, transnational, manipulative.
15:31Peter Magyar:And now Ukraine is of course made to stand for war, economic pain, instability. So the specific enemy can change, but the method stays the same. Create a sense of external threat, frame disagreement as national danger, and then offer strong leadership as the only protection.
15:52Viktor Orban:What might work as a short-term campaign tactic for a political movement fighting to get a seat at the table has, in Orbán's case, been stretched into full-blown modus operandi.
16:04Peter Magyar:Since 2010, Fidesz has used parliamentary dominance to reshape the system itself, the constitution, the media environment, the regulatory landscape, the distribution of state resources, and the wider political playing field. Orban does not fight only with speeches, he also fights through the architecture of power. He presents his struggle as civilizational. Hungary versus liberal Europe, order versus decadence, peace versus war, nation versus foreign tutelage. That gives his politics and his campaign charge that goes beyond ordinary policy debate.
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17:26Viktor Orban:You are listening to the documentary from the BBC World Service. The architecture of power itself has deep relevance for the most fundamental act in a democracy. And the last Hungarian vote back in 2022 already hinted at problems with election equality. Observers from the OSCE, Europe's main election monitoring body, reported that it wasn't a level playing field. Regrettably, the parliamentary elections were marred by the blurring of lines between state and ruling party.
18:00Peter Magyar:The pervasive overlap between the governing parties' campaign messages and the government's communications tilted the playing field. The consolidation of media, as well as the prevalence of biased and unbalanced news coverage, limited voters' ability to make an informed choice.
18:18Viktor Orban:Before we dive into the campaign, we'll unpick those structural advantages that are working in the interest of the status quo. Let's bring in another Hungarian colleague from the BBC World Service, Joffia Paulikovic. Viktor Orban and Fidesz started seriously thinking about reshaping media. They felt that there was a need for a sort of right-wing public sphere to counter what they saw as the liberal bias in Hungary at the time. In the space between 2006 and 2010, they began strategically buying up media outlets, including smaller outlets, radio, TV, all sorts.
18:58Peter Magyar:What Orbán did to the media landscape in Hungary is not classic censorship. It's much closer to what people mean by a liberal information autocracy, using laws, regulators, ownership structures, state money, as well as selective pressure. So the point was not to shut every critical voice down necessarily. It was more like to make sure that the dominant information environment works in Fidesz's favour.
19:27Viktor Orban:And how did he achieve that? What kind of tools did he use?
19:32Peter Magyar:It started with the main regulator, which is the National Media and Info Communications Authority. And within it sits the Media Council. And on paper, these are just ordinary regulatory bodies, but in practice, critics have long argued that they became part of a politically captured system in which formal regulation could be used to reward allies and to increasingly pressure critics. And then came the legal and regulatory redesign after 2010, as well as the ownership concentration. Friendly oligarchs buying outlets, critical owners being pressured, and eventually the creation of the Central European Press and Media Foundation, Keshma, the umbrella for a huge pro-government media bloc, owning more than 500 outlets currently.
20:25Peter Magyar:Add to that the weaponization of state advertising, which rewards loyal media and starves critical outlets, and you basically get a system where formal pluralism survives on paper, but the balance of power shifts dramatically.
20:41Viktor Orban:And in reality, does that mean that there is one voice, one messaging that is the dominant one and perhaps even drowning out dissenting voices?
20:52Peter Magyar:From a public service perspective, there is definitely one voice because every public outlet is now basically a propaganda machine serving the main party's, Fidesz's interests. But it doesn't mean that there are no opposition or independent voices. They exist, but they exist in a much harsher and much more hostile environment. They don't have the opportunity to benefit from state funding. They don't have the opportunity to compete for government grants. So they increasingly have to rely on their own readership, donations, move behind paywalls so they can collect subscription.
21:34Viktor Orban:Independent media went on, their circumstances became incredibly hard. Newsrooms were disbanded, people that objected to new ownership and had to kind of make their own way separately. But they did go on. However, as the government media space became increasingly politicized, so did the opposition media space. But they do carry on and they carry out very high quality journalism and investigations on extremely shoestring resources. Rita Palfi, another Hungarian colleague from the BBC World Service, was cutting her teeth as a young journalist as these changes were unfolding, witnessing the transformation firsthand.
22:16Peter Magyar:The government likes to frame independent media as pro-opposition. When you hear in the actual electoral campaign that politicians say, I'm not talking to you because you are a pro-opposition media, and they're telling it to an independent media who is financed by its readers, then it becomes a narrative to talk about independent media, but it's obviously not pro-opposition.
22:42Viktor Orban:Where do Hungarians usually get their news from?
22:45Peter Magyar:Online media, almost 80 % of people are getting their news from there. And the second one is social media. It's 54 % according to the latest Reuters digital report. On social media is Facebook. The second one is YouTube. Television declined, so in nine years it lost almost 30%.
23:05Viktor Orban:This isn't just about remodelling power in Hungary, a country of 9.5 million people. Viktor Orban has become an ideological influencer for leaders around the world who admire his signature brand of illiberal democracy, a phrase he himself adopted. But at home, he's facing a growing challenge and cracks are beginning to show within his own voter base.
23:31Peter Magyar:Peter Magyar is the leader of a plausible governing challenge. His strongest support is younger voters, urban voters, as well as conservatives, centrists, and disillusioned former Fidesz voters. And that social coalition is really the key to his momentum. He has managed to bring together several kinds of dissatisfaction at once. Anger over corruption, fatigue with Orbán, economic frustration, and a deep disappointment with the weakness of the traditional opposition.
24:06Viktor Orban:But as public media has been repurposed into a tool of the state, any potential challenger has effectively been shut out of a large part of the information space. So Peter Modjar went analogue to generate attention in the digital world.
24:23Peter Magyar:Peter Modjar's rise shows that control is not the same thing as total monopoly.
24:30Viktor Orban:There are huge problems with the media freedom in Hungary. What we have is only my personal Facebook page. This is our biggest tool. Our only chance is to go there, directly to the people.
24:42Peter Magyar:Orbán still dominates the legacy of broadcasters, but Magyar found momentum in the one arena that remained harder to seal off completely. It's direct, digital, high-frequency political presence. And he did it by barnstorming the country rally after rally, town after time, and turning that movement itself into media.
25:12Peter Magyar:He used Facebook Lives, constant video footage, direct addresses, and just a much more personal campaign style to reach people without the usual gatekeepers. His more personal online approach generated higher engagement than Orbán's. It created atmosphere.
25:41Peter Magyar:His rallies were not just campaign events, they were also proofs of existence, and then the Facebook Lives turned those local proofs into national ones.
25:57Peter Magyar:And there is also a massive difference in tone. Phineas's communication often sounds managed, sanitized and distant. Magyar style has been much more blunt, immediate and recognizably human.
26:20Peter Magyar:He films himself on trains, in streets, in crowds, in messy real time. So while Orbán speaks through a system, Magyar often speaks as if he is speaking directly to the people over that system's head.
26:39Peter Magyar:Every event fed the next one, and that made the campaign feel mobile, alive, and very hard to contain. He could not out-broadcast Orbán on state media, so he built a rival channel out of movement, social media, repetition, and direct contact. And once enough people started seeing that energy, momentum itself became part of the message.
27:14Viktor Orban:If you go to one of the stops on Peter Magyar's tour around the country, you will often see different little knickknacks, these are handouts, but also you can buy a fitted white shirt, which is part of the Peter Magyar uniform, essentially. So this idea that he is a symbol in himself that people can identify with, that people can dress like is very much a part of the campaign. Similarly, at a certain point in his speech, he will do a pause and then he will begin this chant, which is Tissa is flooding, there's drumming, the crowd is chanting along.
27:55Viktor Orban:It's a very powerful moment, reminiscent of the sort of national feeling that Fidesz is also known for. I think something that to me is really interesting about Peter Magyar is that he learned a lot from Orban. Orban is an incredibly talented politician. You can't take that away from him. I think that Fidesz got too comfortable, too inward looking. They're rarely challenged by the media and they've slowed down and they lost touch.
28:23Peter Magyar:I think the best way to understand his momentum is not that Hungary has suddenly fallen in love with Peter Magyar as a political visionary. It is that he has become the most credible vessel for accumulated frustration.
28:38Viktor Orban:Peter Magyar has been able to, taking the elements of Fidesz's ideology at work, but speak directly to people. He meets with people, he talks to them, with young people, he's taking selfies with them and appearing in their TikTok videos.
29:02Viktor Orban:Every time he visits a new place, like often he will arrive in a sort of on a boat or like an exotic car or something, it cuts through more than the kind of convoluted and slightly forced Fidesz messaging does. When he went to Transylvania, the Hungarian diaspora, he walked into these villages on foot wearing their national dress. Transylvania is in Romania, so he would travel to a neighbouring country to campaign for the Hungarian elections, right? He's campaigning abroad because Viktor Orban has introduced the possibility to vote for these regions and has actually counted very heavily on these votes and has done a concerted effort to locate a new voter base there.
29:48Viktor Orban:Viktor Orban is extremely popular in these territories because he has essentially given people Hungarian citizenship. Fidesz found itself in a kind of cukcvang. Every move carried a risk, but doing nothing wasn't an option. In previous campaigns, the party could simply throw money at the problem. But in October 2025, the EU's new transparency rules on political advertising came into force, according to which paid and targeted political ads must be labelled as such. And Meta and Google obliged. This was particularly worrying for Fidesz in the region, the sort of Central Eastern European region.
30:32Viktor Orban:They are among the highest spenders on political advertising. As a kind of illustration, their non-election campaign spending was similar to Poland's election campaign spending, which obviously Poland is much bigger. And Orban himself had in the past said that the 2018 election was won on Facebook.
30:51Peter Magyar:So what did Fidesz do? It shifted from buying visibility into manufacturing visibility. So material that looks like ordinary opinion or memes or cartoons, but functions politically. If something is not clearly labeled as a party ad, then it becomes harder to track and much easier to deny. If content is spread by unofficial-looking pages, loyalist networks or issue-based accounts rather than the party in its own name, then the system becomes much harder to police.
31:23Viktor Orban:And so they began to really throw everything at what Viktor Orbán has called the digital conquest, digitális honfoglalás in Hungarian.
31:36Viktor Orban:It's a very historically charged term. This was really a mobilization of core Fidesz supporters who were then encouraged in this new role to really get on Facebook and share.
31:51Peter Magyar:Fidesz has turned much more heavily to influencers and AI-generated content. Influencers can make messaging feel more personal, even when they are clearly operating inside a pro-government ecosystem. And then there is, of course, the organized online activism part. And this is where Artsusokklubia, so Fight Club, and the Digital Civic Circles or DPKs come in. The idea is to turn supporters into organized identity-based communication networks that can share content, shape comment sections, reinforce narratives, and create the appearance of broad, spontaneous support.
32:37Viktor Orban:The great advantage of this digital civic circles is that they are real people, so that bypasses advertising that way. And then on the other side of this, fake profiles. And these were created in the past couple of months. They have barely any content. They are a page rather than a person because meta isn't alerted that you're posting political content. It's like a gardening group or like a car repair shop page or something like that. Often they get deleted or renamed and their job similarly is to like and comment on content. Often you can see they will all like something at the same time. or if they share something, it will be sort of verbatim the same content as the others.
33:26Viktor Orban:And it got personal, as the leaders of TISA discovered.
33:30Peter Magyar:This campaign increasingly seems to be built around controlling the first frame and then letting correction lag behind. One of the clearest examples was the episode around rodnajmark.hu, a website named after TISA's vice president, Mark Rodney, which suddenly appeared with an image of a bedroom. There was an unmade bed, a ceiling-mounted camera perspective, and teaser-style text suggesting compromising material was about to be released. Peter Moller later said that this was part of a Russian-style smear campaign built around some alleged kompromat. But the interesting part is that no such video needed to appear at all for the tactic to work.
34:18Peter Magyar:You create a sense that something shameful or dangerous is about to emerge, and that alone alters the emotional environment.
34:28Viktor Orban:The vice president of Modiar's party has denied having to do anything with the website bearing his name. You are listening to The Global Jigsaw from BBC Monitoring. The war in Ukraine looms large over the Hungarian campaign. Orbán leaned on it in the 2022 election, and he won. And it's not surprising he's reaching for it again.
34:55Peter Magyar:It was an AI-generated Fidesz campaign video in which a little girl asks her mother when her father is coming home before the scene cuts to his execution on a battlefield. And the video was published by Fidesz and framed the party as the safe choice. Of course, the implication is absolutely unmistakable. If Orban loses, Hungarian families will pay the price. It is a highly manipulative compression of the campaign's core message that only Fidesz can keep danger outside the home. It shows clearly the campaign at its most distilled. Fear politics aimed not at reason debate, but at visceral family anxiety.
35:47Peter Magyar:It takes an abstract foreign policy question and turns it into an intimate domestic nightmare. Your child, your home, your father, your loss.
35:59Viktor Orban:Speaking of Ukraine, Modjar says no one in Hungary wants war.
36:07Viktor Orban:He actually has said that he doesn't back Ukraine's sort of accelerated EU membership, which is in keeping with what Orbán says. But at the same time, when this children's hospital was bombed by Russia, he then delivered aid personally. Whilst these seem like tiny differences in the highly contentious approach to Ukraine, they are actually quite a big stand. In early March, while addressing the issue of the EU emergency fund for Kyiv, the Ukrainian president inadvertently delivered a gift to Orbán's campaign.
36:47Peter Magyar:Zelensky said publicly that he hoped one person, quote-unquote, would stop blocking the package and then added that otherwise he could give that person's address to Ukraine's military. Now, he did not name Orbán directly, but it was widely understood as referring to him. And Orbán's side seized on that immediately. The Hungarian government described Zelensky's words as an open threat, and Orbán himself answered by saying that he did not think this was only about him personally, but about Hungary.
37:31Peter Magyar:And the exchange let Orbán turn a diplomatic row into campaign material for his bigger message, that Hungary is being bullied by reckless outsiders and only he can defend it.
37:44Viktor Orban:Peter Modjar, for his part, also took a stance based on principle.
37:48Peter Magyar:Modjar has been on a campaign event in the countryside on stage, and he just said it out loud.
37:58Peter Magyar:I would like to reiterate one thing very clearly. Regardless of who the prime minister is, no other president has the right to intimidate another leader of a country.
38:11Viktor Orban:And with Ukraine now folded into the campaign narrative, Russia isn't far from the frame. Some media reports have alleged influence efforts by spy agencies, even rumours of a staged assassination attempt.
38:25Peter Magyar:The most serious recent reporting is the Washington Post article, which says that it reviewed an internal SVR for an intelligence service document authenticated by a European intelligence service in which Russian operatives discussed how to help Orbán, including a proposal they called the Game Changer, a stage assassination attempt designed to shift the campaign out of the rational realm of societal economic frustration. and into the emotional realm of state security and stability. The Kremlin denied the report, but if accurate, it suggests Russian actors were actively exploring ways to reshape the election.
39:10Viktor Orban:The prime minister dismissed the story on Hír TV.
39:19Viktor Orban:Even if Hungarian voters try to tune out the messaging that comes from what is in effect state media, that messaging still saturates the fabric of everyday life.
39:30Peter Magyar:It is government billboards, public poster campaigns, so-called national consultations and petitions, as well as state and pro-government media. It blurs the line between public information and campaign propaganda.
39:46Viktor Orban:BIDAS also has a history of offering different financial incentives. One of them is a tax exemption for mothers with three or more children, which has recently been actually lowered to two children.
40:05Viktor Orban:Similarly, as a family with a certain number of children, you have access to different housing support for young families for buying a house. And on the other end of the spectrum, they also introduced 13th and 14th pension. so adding on two extra months of pension just a couple of months before the election. They also offer a cap on utility bills and they make sure that people know it too. So when you receive your utility bill, you will see in large letters, your utility bill has been lowered. This isn't just a fight over the future direction of a small central European country. Orban and Modiar represent two camps increasingly at odds with each other, which is why the elections are seen as pivotal around the world too.
40:57Peter Magyar:This election is not just about who is going to govern next. It is about whether Hungary stays inside the same political model Orban built, captured media, weakened checks and balances, permanent enemy politics, or whether there is a chance to begin reversing that. There are 199 seats in the parliament. So that means that if you have 100 seats, then you won't. But there is a third party that might get into the parliament that could form a coalition with Fidesz. So that means that even if TISA wins the elections and even if they have more MPs in the parliament than Fidesz, there might be still a Fidesz government.
41:44Peter Magyar:after the election. If you want to change the system, you need a two-third majority, and that's another level.
41:51Viktor Orban:And there could be another unsettling outcome.
41:54Peter Magyar:The darkest stake of all, transfer of power. Serious European policy voices are openly discussing the possibility that in a narrower contested result, Hungary could face a slowed, obstructed, or maybe even an openly disputed handover.
42:15Viktor Orban:This is the documentary from the BBC World Service. Thank you, or köszi, to our Hungarian guides Amity Sedghi, Joffia Paulikovic and Rita Palfi. Our technical producer is Elcin Suleimanov. At the mixing desk is John Hemingway. And as usual, this programme was produced by the Global Jigsaw Podcast team, exec producer and Hungarian herself, Krista Shattori, and me, Krasi Ivanova-Twig. Thank you.
From the publisher
Viktor Orban faces a high-stakes showdown as Peter Magyar takes him on in one of Europe’s most consequential elections in years. A former ally-turned-rival Peter Magyar has built a remarkable momentum in a short time, with polls placing him ahead of the incumbent. Yet victory may still prove elusive within a power structure designed to protect the status quo. In this episode we examine the unequal playing field that is the election machine. We cut through the exuberance of the campaign to distil the messages of the rival camps, Fidesz and Tisza, and explore how the outcome could redefine Hungary’s role in the region. We speak to Amitis Sedghi, Rita Palfi and Zsofia Paulikovics.




