In short
A BBC World Service documentary about Makanda, South Africa’s Black Power Station—how a disused power plant turned venue (“Euphoria”) gives hip-hop and Afropop artists a place to perform, speak politics, and resist poverty/shame, rooted in Black Consciousness history (Steve Biko’s “I Write What I Like”).
Guests (people featured)
X (Olile Madinda), founder/artist; Damage (Lutando Zinghela), rapper performing at Euphoria; Father (Ovayo Dandani), Afropop vocalist; Dr. Alet Skern, Rhodes University lecturer studying Makanda hip-hop digital ecologies; Lou Banks (Silubonile Kebe), rapper; Sir Saskavash (Tabi So), emo/trap rapper; NTR (Nathan), hip-hop/gospel rap; CRISPR, RSA (Kanyisa), boom-bap rapper; James Erasmus, producer/event organizer; Dollar Sign Scotty (Hilary Masikati), rapper; Kwanza Jr. (Azaseve Kwanza), Afro-soul artist; KB Cooper (Lisha Smith), Amapiano-influenced rapper; plus family/support figures (e.g., Vava’s aunt Vuelva).
Key claims
The venue enables “home,” free expression, and community solidarity across race; music is healing and a way to communicate when speech/jobs are constrained; local artists create despite power outages, unemployment, and poor infrastructure; hip-hop helps resist crime and poverty stigma.
Notable examples
paying for tickets with books; recording in a Wendy house with egg-box booth; describing Ikhini vs greener areas; songs about water crisis/poverty/grief (including Vava’s mother’s death); Euphoria soundcheck where artists sing along and a mixed crowd attends.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Black Power Station Unveiled
1:35 to 2:15
Introduction to the Black Power Station and its significance.
“A young man with a mic and some giant speakers is doing publicity for a gig.”
Historical Context of the Venue
2:15 to 4:25
Exploring the history behind the Black Power Station and its founding.
“To find out, we need to leave our men with the mic and go to the edge of town.”
Artists' Experiences and Challenges
4:25 to 6:56
Artists share their experiences growing up and pursuing music in Makanda.
“the founder of the Black Consciousness Movement.”
The Struggles of Hip-Hop Artists
6:56 to 9:18
Discussion of the socio-economic challenges faced by local hip-hop artists.
“I'm doing love songs in Afropop, so yeah.”
Expression Through Music
9:18 to 11:16
Artists discuss how they use music to express their struggles and experiences.
“So they would always have a box which they'd cannibalized other computers with old power units and fans, etc.”
Cultural Significance of Family in Music
11:16 to 14:01
Exploration of family themes in the music of local artists and their importance.
“Maybe they were speaking to the government through music so that other people in the world can hear them and what's really going on in Wakanda.”
Exploring Healing Through Music
14:01 to 17:20
The artist discusses how music serves as a form of healing and expression.
“But then I also saw the title was written Gogo, right?”
Exploring Healing Through Music
18:26 to 19:01
The artist discusses how music serves as a form of healing and expression.
“Personal finance can feel like a pop quiz you didn't study for.”
Music and Community Resilience
19:01 to 26:50
An exploration of how music addresses social issues like poverty and community pride.
“making sure it's got something special for the Euphoria audience.”
The Anticipation of Performance
26:50 to 28:00
The excitement and nerves leading up to a significant performance at the Black Power Station.
“People assume that it was only for black people.”
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Anticipation and Excitement for Performance
28:00 to 28:55
Feel the excitement and nerves of performing for the first time.
“I love being on stage, so I have confidence in that, that I'll bring my all.”
Connection Through Music
28:55 to 29:41
Explore the transformative power of live music and personal expression.
“I'm just looking forward to the next show and the next show because we're going to do this till I die.”
Inspiration and Legacy
29:41 to 30:41
Learn about the influence of past artists on current generations.
“when I watched Vava and Kwanzaa perform.”
Hopes for Recognition and Impact
30:41 to 31:43
Discover the aspirations of artists to reach a wider audience.
“I'm coming from the poor, down, not well, no bad.”
Transcript
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1:13Mike and his guests offer their perspective on how policy changes could affect what you do with your portfolio. Download the latest episode and follow at schwab.com slash Washington Wise or wherever you listen. Y 'all want to hear some hip-hop? We're on the corner of a dusty street in the small city of Makanda, South Africa. A young man with a mic and some giant speakers is doing publicity for a gig. Ladies and gentlemen, the event is going to be going on in the Black Power Station tonight. The event is called Euphoria. We want you to escape the troubles of this world and feel euphoria. My name is Lutando Zinghela, performing as Damage.
2:03I'm part of Euphoria alongside other local artists. I want to introduce you to some of them. But first, I want to tell you more about the venue, the Black Power Station. Where does that name come from? To find out, we need to leave our men with the mic and go to the edge of town.
2:47My name is Olile Madinda, known as X, the founder of the Black Power Station, an artist. A disused power station on the edge of the city. It's now a venue for local artists to make themselves heard. Growing up in Makanda as an artist, hip-hop artist, around 1996, we didn't have a place to perform. We didn't have a place that allows you to be an artist, to talk politics, even to talk about anything. We wanted to build a space, and I came here by accident because I was meeting a friend. It used to be a power station, according to my father, that powered only one side of the city. Electricity was not accessible to black people.
3:36We know that history. We can't erase it. Yes, it was an empty building with dust and it was run down. And other people were like, it's not going to work. I said, build it, they will come. Because of the idea itself, I was longing for a home. And X has created a space where everyone feels at home. Bookcases line the walls. You can pay for your ticket with a book if you don't have money. You can sit on sofas or chairs or beanbags. You can play the piano at the back. You can go outside for food or mkomboti, traditional African beer. There's a fire in the winter. Makanda is in South Africa's Eastern Cape.
4:21That's the province that produced Nelson Mandela and another famous struggle hero, Steve Biko, the founder of the Black Consciousness Movement. He was a student activist in the town, and he was arrested here in August 1977. He was dead less than a month later at the hands of the apartheid regime. His book, I Write What I Like, inspired a generation of young black South Africans, including X. Steve Biko believed that we should be our own catalyst. We are better than what we are told to be. To him, black consciousness was not a political organisation, it was a state of mind. So I learned about Steve Beagle, how the Black Consciousness Movement organized themselves, how Steve Beagle himself built a clinic at the height of the apartheid, being chased by the system.
5:15So I was charged by saying, if I'm influenced by these people, I need to build something. So that's our venue, where euphoria will take place. The Black Pass station is up on a hill above Makanda which used to be called Gramstown and you'll hear both names Driving back into town there's a place you can stop and look out over the whole of the city If you do, you might notice something The houses here they have pools they have nice gardens and there's these trees that are so green in this town But there's a point where these trees stop, and beyond that is another totally different scene. The grass is brown, and it's gravel road.
6:10The houses are all packed up together. Some are built in mud. There are no pools. There are no gardens. This part of the town is called Ikhini. This is where the majority of the black people live. they make up most of the population of the town. These two parts of the town, the green part and the brown part, geographically are very close to one another. But in many other ways, they couldn't be further apart. I want us to get to the tempo of the song. I would usually go for a 90. I know that for me. Music is part of making sense of life on the brown side of town. and I'm trying to help others to do the same.
6:59My name is Ovayo Dandani. People know me as Father, the vocalist. I'm doing love songs in Afropop, so yeah. I found Ovayo singing in the street with his friends. I liked his voice and asked him if he wanted to come and do some recording at my studio. That's my bedroom studio in the backyard of my parents' house. He said yes, he's still at school, but he's passionate about making music. I was nine years old and I was at primary. I was always writing the lyrics on my notebook and my teachers always shouting me and calling my father to come to school. They were judging me and they were saying, you are very crazy.
7:53The thing that you are doing, it will not take you far. What was the chorus before? So it's where I started to recognize myself, what is gifted by God.
8:11Vava and I are working on a new song. It's about a girl he loves who has moved to another town and how he misses her. Because he's not just writing and recording, Now he's going to get a chance to perform on the stage of the Black Power Station at Euphoria that's coming up soon.
8:31I'm Dr. Alet Skern. I'm a senior lecturer at Rhodes University. My PhD was on the digital ecologies of hip-hop artists in Makanda. When I was doing my research between 2014 and 2016, most of the hip-hop artists were unemployed. Others had very modest jobs. They were living in little shacks at the back of their parents' small brick homes, washing from the outside tap, outside toilet. Quite difficult lives, and the computers they had did not have Wi-Fi connections, and they just had this sort of one wire connection from the main house. So there would be constant electrical surges that would blow their power units, etc.
9:23So they would always have a box which they'd cannibalized other computers with old power units and fans, etc. that they would reconnect.
9:36My name is Silubonile Kebe. I go by the artist named Lou Banks. We would record in a Wendy house. We created like a booth over a mic with egg boxes. And then we'd have to cover ourselves with a blanket and record through. So when it rains, the Wendy house is like... And then we have to wait. The town is economically being degraded. Everyone's leaving. No one wants to be here. There's no water. The service delivery is horrible. There's no electricity. We have power outages randomly and it can be gone for a whole day. There's a lot of corruption. The hip-hop activities were very much about asserting your worth in the world.
10:20That you were a human being, that you were not just subsisting, but you were creative. You had something to say and that it was valuable and you were finding ways to think through the difficulties of your community.
10:39My name is Tabi So. I go under the name Sir Saskavash. And the type of music I do is basically emo rap with a touch of trap. A huge concentration of artists now are coming out because they're like, hey, we can actually be something with this. You can talk about the situations that you're going through at home. There's a water crisis going on. You can put that in a song.
11:02My name is Nathan. I perform under NTR. It's hip-hop and sometimes it's gospel rap. Some people also don't have the sense of freedom of speech. They need it to communicate. So I think some people do it through music. I was speaking to God through music. Maybe they were speaking to the government through music so that other people in the world can hear them and what's really going on in Wakanda. My name is Kanyisa, but I don't go by the name CRISPR, RSA. It's hip-hop, boom-bap, like the culture's rap. That's where I get to get things off the chest. As much as I'm a good writer, I'm not good enough when it comes to vocaling out myself.
11:44So I would rather divulge a lot on what's happening around my community and amongst my peers and put that inner form of a song.
12:01Just listening, eh? For some people, you can't find a job, you can't find work, and you try and make it happen with the music. My name is James Erasmus. I'm a music producer and I'm also an event organizer, and I'm organizing the show Euphoria at the Black Power Station. I started just recording friends that I knew that rapped, and then it spread word of mouth. They heard, oh, James is recording people. OK, let's go.
12:36Let's add an ad lib on wise. The thing that is the most exciting and interesting to me is when you see somebody start hearing it come together and that excitement that they get and you're like, this is somebody that just loves music, that has so much ability but has never been able to express it before. I think you can write a better rhyme than all love. Or somebody like Scotty who had never recorded anything before and now they've got an outlet and it's just, yeah. Give me a second, I'm cooking. Oh, OK. I am Hilary Masikati. I go by Dollar Sign Scotty. I don't know, music just kept on choosing me.
13:12Even when I spoke, let's say I am presenting something in front of the class, this hand would always just be moving like this, to the point that somebody pointed it out, that you're a rapper. I'm like, what you talking about? So with the beat. It's a way of dealing with things either by writing directly to issues or by ignoring it and writing about sex and drugs and forgetting for a little bit. Family is something that gets spoken about. In South Africa within Xhosa culture, the family is such a big part of who you are. It's Ubuntu, I am because we are. You will see more songs about people's mothers and grandmothers.
14:00That's where you wanted back in. I was at my friend's house. So I'm like, yo, let's open some beats. I'm listening. But then I also saw the title was written Gogo, right? Which is grandmother. And it just started flowing.
14:18I come from like a misfortune type background, right? I never really got anything I needed, all of those things, right? I went to Joburg, I lived with my grandmother for two years. That woman showed me true love. I never went to no therapy. I don't trust nobody enough to tell them about my actual life. Through writing the music, I gained the healing that I've been taking.
14:52Just you know it's all love.
14:57So what are we looking at for today? Have you loved? No, no, no, not love. The Makana music scene is mainly filled with young men trying to work out how to make their way in the world. But it's not just men. My name is Azaseve Kwanza. I go by the name of Kwanza Jr. I'm also part of a group called Itole SA. The type of music I do, it's Afro soul, based on true life stories, things that people encounter every day. I'm thinking of... I prefer hearing the beat before I write. I want to hear the emotion of the beat and then it will tell me which concept I should write about. These are gonna be shakers.
15:45So the floor is like I think the song should be like more of a wake-up song to people, right? At some point you have to find your ground in life. So we're basically saying take off your coat and go get ready to find wherever they're closing the doors, go open them.
16:14I started doing music because we're healing music. Music heals us before it heals people. And that's where we find peace. That's where we build characters. Who we are today is because of the music we do.
16:33You know, I've worked with you for a couple of years now, and I still don't get over you. Like, I don't get used to you. and what you carry when it comes to music. Everything I write, I put myself in those shoes and I'm like, if it was me, how would I feel about it? Hence, you're able to tell the emotions when listening to the song. I feel like that's also why you don't get used to me because every time we record a new song, you basically get a new Kwanzaa based on the emotions of the song.
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19:00Vava and I are hard at work, making sure it's got something special for the Euphoria audience. Today, he's working on another song. This one is about the poverty he sees around him.
19:17The person that I write about, he's doing hip-hop. I don't feel good about the situation that he lives in. At his home, he don't have even a door to close. They live outside. Other people, they didn't see them as a human being, you know. So they even doubt themselves. Me as a good friend, I speak with them and motivate them, you know. I don't trust them.
19:59They spoke very strongly about a kind of sense of pride. and resisting the shame of poverty, and that they saw the hip-hop as a way of really creating a community that could resist that, and you could have something different.
20:24Vava is lucky. His family is relatively well off. It's a strong family, but there is a sadness at its heart. I'm the one who's grown without my mother. I was three years old when she died. I don't know where her grave is, and I don't know the story about her. How did it start for her to be dead?
21:02The challenges of living in this place where even basic needs aren't met, grief, anger, loss, hope, everything goes into our music.
21:21How are you, James? So I just sent you the location for where we're going to do the photo shoot. Euphoria is only a few days away and we have to tell people about it. posters, socials, word of mouth these all need great images yes exactly like that watch that, that's what I need Tando is the lens man making our artists feel like the real deal I need you to look like you're a bit flamboyant you're trying to dress the ladies I just wanted them to actually have the feeling of this is actually serious people need to know these artists they need to see these artists that's the reason why I would literally speak to the artist and ask them how do they feel about this picture which picture do you want I wanted them to have a voice as well.
22:02Let's go to you guys. Are we going with this one as well? Yeah. This one? Yes. Okay, we're going for this one for you. And the close-up. I want to do rehearsal for timing. Yeah. We'll do another soundcheck on Saturday because we're renting some days. The biggest worry that's always there is people not showing up. I've done, I don't know, like how many shows by now. Every time I'm worried that no one's going to show up. Almost no tickets are sold. It feels like nobody's coming.
22:38It's the day of the soundcheck, and I take Konzai and Vava to the Black Power Station. It's the first time that Vava has met the legendary ex.
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22:52He's nervous, but he can't wait to get on that stage. I feel excited because it's my first time to be here at Black Power Station and perform with the local artists that is known by other audiences. No one apart from me and Vava has heard the new song. A few of the other artists are in the building. Antiar, Sasaskovac, CRISPR. By the end, they are singing along with the chorus.
23:24This is why X made this place. I see younger, younger, younger, younger blood coming, trying. They're interacting in a way that in solidarity of each other, there's no competition, although they have different style, they have different content. It's beautiful. on the one hand they were hoping to become stars and to be recognized but part of that was that they were uplifting their community at the same time there was the sense that there was a generation that needed to be saved from crime and that they were going to pull the next generation into this kind of social movement so that they would not be like on the corners getting up to naughty business.
24:15My name is Lisha Smith. My stage name is KB Cooper. My friends, they started smoking weed. Also, they started not attending school and they started drinking as well. I was like, I can't associate myself with them. I tried to talk them out of it. I don't like this kind of behavior. And they stopped doing music. I was the only one left in the crew doing music. In Amapiano, people write about anything. Someone can release a song talking about in microwave. That doesn't educate a child. I believe that when writing, music is a form of passing a message, not just by listening for entertainment purposes only.
25:06Vava is on a high after the sound check and I take him home to his aunt, Vuelva who plays her the video from today
25:21Vava's father asked her to look after him when his mother died she is strict, she wants him to stay on the right track and she thinks music is helping. I'm so glad he do this because I know where he is. Sometimes when he is not at home, I'm afraid because I think he's going to drink alcohol or take drugs. I'm Kowse and I'm Ovaio's cousins. When he lost his mother, listening to music, to feel like okay. I didn't know how to be there for him. I was so young. I didn't think that he would grow big and love to sing. I didn't know. And I'm here with him now. Encourage him. I'm here with him now.
26:25And now it's time. The sun is setting over the city and we make our way to the Black Power Station where all of us are going to get on the stage and share our music. As we arrive, we can see that James shouldn't have worried. There are people here and from all over the town, white and black, which is also part of X's vision. People assume that it was only for black people. but when they come in you would find people are no longer asking the question. It looks like a familiar space. That's why I call it the International Arts Destination. This is a space that's not like any other space in town.
27:09There are students here and older people that never gather in the same place and never with this kind of energy. So yeah, I think it's a desperately needed space. At least where I'm from, there aren't really a lot of people who are open about their arts. At least here, I know that people are really passionate about what they do. I think there's always importance in the Black Power Station as a whole in general. A lot of people that are in Gramstown or came to study in Gramstown don't actually know much of the history regarding Gramstown. Well, I ran into a stranger on the street and I thought his outfit was cool, so I said hi and he invited me.
27:50It's almost like expression comes from small places like this, you know. A lot of the town is run down, but in the ruins you find, like, you know, good vibes, good energy, good people. I love being on stage, so I have confidence in that, that I'll bring my all. The only thing I'm afraid of is will people love it? There's a lot of people, you know, and I'm very excited. I can't wait to perform. I can't do it. Thank you very much. Welcome, everyone. I think we all came to a hip-hop, right? So today is my first ever show performance, like, ever. Because I have lived this moment so much, like, this whole week.
28:37So I'm just going to take all of that, put it on stage. So guys, please give an extra special welcome to Sniper.
28:54I let the inner Scotty take in and then I let Hillary just sit down on the corner. I'm just looking forward to the next show and the next show because we're going to do this till I die. Guys, can you please start a warm round of applause for my good friend Damage.
29:24On stage, I feel alive. I feel like I have purpose in life, and that is to heal and find closure through music. My performance was good, and I was relieved when it was over. But I had butterflies in my stomach and joy in my heart when I watched Vava and Kwanzaa perform.
29:59Taking their place as part of the next generation of Makanda artists, fulfilling the vision of X, of Igo, of all those who have fought to make their voices heard, inspiring us to tell the world about what matters to us, and to say whatever we like.
30:25The excitement when someone in the UK liked my track, there was the sense of recognition from elsewhere and the sense that maybe one day you could escape from being stuck here. This is the one for love. This is for love.
31:10I'm coming from the poor, down, not well, no bad. I have a hope for that we'll be in the map by our music here in Cranston.
31:42I'm Lutando Zingela. The Black Power station, I Rap What I Like, was made for the BBC World Service by The Big Light. The producer was Jane Morgan.
From the publisher
On the edge of a failing South African city, a disused power station hums once again - this time with beats, voices, and possibility. Makhanda is a divided place and, for the majority, opportunities are scarce and challenges are constant: poverty is grinding, houses and roads crumble, unemployment is overwhelming, violence is never far away and life can be cheap. But Makanda is also full of creativity and passion, and some of its young people are responding to the hardships they face with music. They are filling the gap where their futures should be with art rather than with drugs, alcohol or crime. The Black Power Station provides a stage for these musicians to do what they love as well as to get their message across. Their lyrics speak of poverty, inequality and violence but also of love, determination and hope. With one of the artists as our guide, The Black Power Station: Resistance Generation takes us into the world of backyard studios and mobile phone mixing desks. From total first-timers to those starting to make a name for themselves, we get inside the heads of these musicians as they write, record and perform.




