The Delacorte Theater

1 Sep 2025 · 26 min · 17 chapters

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In short

The Delacorte Theater’s 18-month renovation in Central Park and its reopening with Twelfth Night, focusing on preserving the landmarked footprint while modernizing accessibility, backstage conditions, and sustainability.

Guests/backgrounds

Jeff London (BBC host/reporter). Oscar Eustace (Public Theater artistic director). Patrick Willingham (Public Theater executive director). Architect Stephen Chu (Ennead; previously worked on Public Theater renovations). Project stakeholders/performers interviewed include Lily Rabe, Daphne Rubin Vega, Peter Dinklage, Lupita Nyong’o (and brother Junior), plus production stage manager Buzz Cohen and director Saheem Ali.

Key claims

The renovation keeps the “soul” and seat count while improving accessibility and comfort; it’s funded publicly and privately; and it addresses long-standing issues like rain in dressing rooms and limited disabled access.

Notable examples

“Raccoon wall” and critter-proof dressing rooms; redwood exterior made from reclaimed wood; Twelfth Night starts Aug 7; ticket demand includes 16,000 online registrations for opening night.

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Chapters

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The Delacorte Theater Reopening

0:52 to 2:00

Discussion on the reopening of the Delacorte Theater and its significance.

“I'm Jeff London, and I'm in the heart of New York City's Central Park, right next to a theater which has presented free Shakespeare in the Park for more than 60 years.”

Experiences at Shakespeare in the Park

2:00 to 3:22

Personal anecdotes and experiences of audience members attending Shakespeare in the Park.

“So you really want to see Shakespeare in the Park.”

Challenges of the Delacorte Theater

3:22 to 4:31

Exploration of the challenges faced by the Delacorte Theater over the years.

“Rain had taken its toll on the structure and electrical systems.”

Renovation Plans Unveiled

4:31 to 6:03

Details on the renovation plans and the vision of making the theater more accessible.

“and has been funded both publicly and privately.”

Joseph Papp's Vision for Free Theater

6:03 to 7:09

The history of Joseph Papp's vision for providing free Shakespeare in the park.

“So we found a shop that actually reclaims wood from water tanks here in New York City.”

The Fight for Free Shakespeare

7:09 to 8:41

Joseph Papp's legal battles to keep Shakespeare free for the public.

“I felt he'd been taken over too much by the academics.”

Theater's Historical Performances

8:41 to 9:37

Discussion on notable performances and actors at the Delacorte Theater.

“free Shakespeare was an institution forever, I hope.”

Weather Challenges in Outdoor Theater

9:37 to 10:29

Experiences of actors dealing with weather conditions during performances.

“I, if the fool could find it where it lies.”

The Role of Raccoons at the Theater

10:29 to 11:23

Humorous accounts of raccoons interacting with performers at the Delacorte.

“played Portia in a production of The Merchant of Venice with Al Pacino.”

Upgrading the Theater's Facilities

11:23 to 12:39

Improvements being made to the dressing rooms and facilities for performers.

“they are humbling and they're not frightened.”
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Construction Progress and Innovations

12:39 to 14:01

Updates on the construction progress and innovative materials being used.

“The conditions in the dressing rooms for the actors and technicians who work back here were, I mean, I won't say barbaric.”

The Renovation of the Delacorte Theater

14:01 to 15:32

Learn about the materials and design choices in the Delacorte Theater renovation.

“And it's super exciting to be here right now because I haven't seen the beginning of the seat installation.”

The Grand Opening Ceremony

16:16 to 17:45

Experience the excitement of the opening ceremony for the renovated theater.

“you're listening to the documentary in the studio from the BBC World Service.”

Performers and Their Emotions

17:45 to 19:48

Delve into the emotions expressed by performers during the opening.

“New York City's comptroller, Brad Lander, has composed verse for the occasion.”

Technical Rehearsals and Adjustments

19:48 to 22:04

Gain insights into the technical rehearsals and adjustments in the new space.

“But before that can happen, the production of Twelfth Night, which has been rehearsing downtown, needs to go through technical rehearsals and dress rehearsals in the new space.”

Audience Reactions to the Revival

22:04 to 23:53

Hear the sentiments of audience members who came to the first performance.

“The company takes a long walk through the backstage spaces and underneath the stage, familiarizing themselves.”

Reflections on the New Experience

23:53 to 27:03

Listen to attendees reflect on the new aspects and the preserved essence of the theater.

“And Patrick Willingham tells me the demand for tickets was so high, not everyone could get in.”
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Transcript

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0:00Jeff Lunden:This BBC podcast is supported by ads outside the UK.

0:30Jeff Lunden:And then we'll be learning about Francis Galton and the racist, discredited pseudoscience of eugenics with Desiree Birch. We'll meet many medieval saints in their bone boxes with Rachel Parrott. So if that sounds like your sort of thing, listen to You're Dead to Me wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you. Bye.

0:51Lupita Nyong'o:Welcome to the documentary In the Studio from the BBC World Service. I'm Jeff London, and I'm in the heart of New York City's Central Park, right next to a theater which has presented free Shakespeare in the Park for more than 60 years. The Delacorte Theater has been closed for the past 18 months for a big renovation, and tonight it reopens with a star-studded production of Shakespeare's comedy of romance and mistaken identity, Twelfth Night. At 8.30 in the morning, there's a long, winding line of people, some in lawn chairs, some on blankets, one even in a hammock. The very first person on the line is Mary Flum Peterson.

1:37Lupita Nyong'o:And where are you from?

1:38Jeff Lunden:I live here in New York. I grew up in Wisconsin, but I've been coming to Shakespeare in the Park since I was an undergrad at Columbia when I was 19 years old. So it's a tradition for me for many years. So we'll just leave it at that, many, many years.

1:53Lupita Nyong'o:So when did you get here this morning?

1:56Jeff Lunden:This morning I got here at 4.30. Wow, okay.

2:00Lupita Nyong'o:So you really want to see Shakespeare in the Park. I do, I do. Like Mary, I've been seeing Shakespeare in the Park every year since I moved to the city in 1980. My first show wasn't Shakespeare at all. It was a highly entertaining production of Gilbert and Sullivan's Pirates of Penzance, starring Linda Ronstadt and Kevin Kline. I was enchanted, not just by the performance, but by the setting.

2:26Jeff Lunden:One of the great beauties of Free Shakespeare in the Park is you never lose sight of the fact that you're in the middle of New York City.

2:33Lupita Nyong'o:That's Oscar Eustace, artistic director of the Public Theater, which runs the Delacorte.

2:38Jeff Lunden:You're in this beautiful park, but you can also see the skyline of downtown and midtown below you. You can see the apartments on the east side and the west side of the park. You see the planes and helicopters going overhead, sometimes to our distress. You're not excluded from the life of the city. You're at the heart of the life of the city, seeing great art. And all for free.

3:04Lupita Nyong'o:Central Park is a huge green expanse in the middle of the city, with lawns, a zoo, gardens, and playing fields. And the Delacorte Theater is one of its jewels. Loved as it is, over the years it had become pretty dilapidated. Rain had taken its toll on the structure and electrical systems. Central Park's raccoons had free rain under the grandstand. accessibility for disabled audiences and artists was limited. And don't even start on the bathrooms. So a plan was made to strip the theater down to its basic structure and rebuild it. This is the story of its renewal and rebirth. On a frigid February morning earlier this year, I don a hard hat.

3:57Lupita Nyong'o:Okay, so it is about 25 degrees outside. 25 degrees Fahrenheit is about minus 4 degrees Celsius. And I am standing in front of the Delacorte Theater, and reconstruction is going on. I'm joined by Eustace, as well as the project's architect, Stephen Chu, and Patrick Willingham, the public theater's executive director, who's been overseeing the project. It's been more than 10 years in the making and has been funded both publicly and privately.

4:35Jeff Lunden:I tell the story all the time of when I first got this job 14 years ago, walking up behind two women. One was clearly a New York citizen, and the other was someone coming to visit her. And as I was walking behind them, the visitor pointed at the Delaware Court and she said, what's that, a baseball stadium? And I sort of knew from that moment, like, we've got to do something. Like, the art that happens inside is so incredible. The exterior and the experience of going has to feel as parallel to that as possible. So it's what we've really tried to pull off.

5:07Lupita Nyong'o:But the theater is landmarked, a legal protection against destruction or significant alteration. So its footprint in Central Park can't be changed, even as the building itself is getting a major upgrade. Architect Stephen Chu. One of the big goals here is to make this theater more accessible

5:28Jeff Lunden:for all types of visitors, as well as more welcoming. So it wants to nestle into the trees and to the nature and to the different seasons of the park and feel like it really sits in harmony here. But at the same time, it makes a big gesture to welcome and invite all the visitors and patrons to come here.

5:47Lupita Nyong'o:And to do that, Chu says, the theater's exterior, which used to be a drab gray, is being changed in a striking way.

5:56Jeff Lunden:We really wanted this project to be resilient and as sustainable as possible and be in harmony with the nature. So we found a shop that actually reclaims wood from water tanks here in New York City. And the amazing thing is that wood is old-growth redwood, which is very precious these days. And because we're reusing it, reskinning it, we basically have clad the whole theater with fabric that comes from all the five boroughs of the city, and it's really for the people, the five boroughs of the city.

6:26Lupita Nyong'o:Chu says the impression will almost be like seeing a huge redwood tree trunk sprouting in the park. Before we enter the construction site, it's worth telling the story of the Delacorte Theater itself. It begins with theater producer Joseph Papp, a native New Yorker who grew up in a household that spoke Yiddish. He discovered Shakespeare on school trips and in the 1950s founded the New York Shakespeare Festival. In 1987, he told WHYY's program Fresh Air about his clear vision.

7:04Jeff Lunden:I started with this notion of wanting to bring Shakespeare to the people without charge and play in the city's parks, playgrounds. I felt he'd been taken over too much by the academics. He was being presented in a way that would turn a lot of people off. And so I made it sort of my commitment to develop American actors to act the works of Shakespeare with the right emotionality, the right speech, clarity.

7:26Lupita Nyong'o:Before the theater was built, the festival presented productions in a city-run amphitheater on the Lower East Side and on a flatbed truck which drove across New York City. One story suggests that the truck broke down right by the turtle pond near the Belvedere Castle, one of the most beautiful spots in Central Park, and Joseph Papp decided that would be the perfect place to build a theater to present Shakespeare for free. But, artistic director Oscar Eustace says, like all good drama, Papp had a nemesis.

8:02Jeff Lunden:In 1959, Robert Moses, the all-powerful commissioner of parks in New York City, decided that we could not do free Shakespeare in the Park, that if we wanted to do Shakespeare in the Park, we had to charge money for it and split it with the Parks Department so that they could reseed the grass. Joe Papp said no. He said to even charge a nickel for Shakespeare in the Park undercuts the very idea, which is that the theater is not a commodity to be sold. It's something that belongs to people for free. He fought Moses all the way through the courts in the pages of the newspapers, and finally when Joe won in the appellate court and they ruled that Moses had behaved in an arbitrary and capricious manner, free Shakespeare was an institution forever, I hope.

8:48Lupita Nyong'o:The Parks Department built a permanent 1 ,864-seat theater on the site with some seed money from publisher George T. Delacorte, which the public theater rents for$1 annually. The first performance in 1962 was The Merchant of Venice, starring George C. Scott, long before he starred in the film Patton, and a very young James Earl Jones, long before he became the voice of Darth Vader. A lot of great actors have trod the 75-foot-wide stage, like Meryl Streep and Addams Family star Raul Julia in The Taming of the Shrew.

9:28Jeff Lunden:Come, come, you wasp in faith. You are too angry. If I be waspish, best beware my sting. My remedy is then to pluck it out. I, if the fool could find it where it lies.

9:39Lupita Nyong'o:Or Academy Award-winning actor Kevin Kline in Hamlet. Oh, that this too, too solid flesh would melt, fall, and resolve itself into a dew. The Delacorte in particular holds a special place in Kline's heart.

9:58Jeff Lunden:I mean, my first job was holding a spear in Richard III in the park. We keep returning because it is a special, magical experience. When the weather is right, when the production is right, when things are going well, they go better outdoors in the middle of Central Park in the Delacorte.

10:15Lupita Nyong'o:Of course, in an open-air theater, weather is always a concern. Sometimes shows are rained out, more often there's a delay, but sometimes they continue in light rainfall. Lily Rabe, best known for American Horror Story, played Portia in a production of The Merchant of Venice with Al Pacino.

10:37Jeff Lunden:It had been raining softly and steadily, about from 8 o 'clock, and everyone was drenched, but it wasn't a heavy enough rain that they had to call the show. When I got to Quality of Mercy,

10:48Lupita Nyong'o:It dropped with as the, I've got to put my hands out in that gentle rain that had been falling on all of us for the past two hours. I just about died. And I remember with Al afterwards, he just said, well, I don't really get better than that. Rabe also recalls waiting in the wings next to that other Delacorte hazard, the raccoons. That's certainly Daphne Rubin Vega's experience. She's playing Mariah in Twelfth Night, the first production in the newly refurbished theater. The raccoons are our friends. They're our mascots. If we give them the respect that they deserve, putting your stage right,

11:28Jeff Lunden:they are humbling and they're not frightened.

11:35Lupita Nyong'o:Ruben Vega may find the raccoons friends, but back on that cold winter day, when I tour the site in a hard hat. The Delacorte's brain trust tells me one of the things they wanted to do was make the dressing rooms under the seats critter-proof. As we walk underneath the grandstand, executive director Patrick Willingham turns.

11:58Jeff Lunden:Just stopping here for a second because we've talked so much about raccoons showing up. We've all seen them show up on stage. You've heard stories from performers, technicians, of them wandering through the back. Well, we've actually constructed what we're teasingly naming the raccoon wall. A big, beautiful wall. Build it. Build it. So the cinder block wall that's sitting in front of us underneath the grandstand is meant to separate outside or inside.

12:30Lupita Nyong'o:They're also making the dressing rooms waterproof and reliably air-conditioned, says artistic director Oscar Eustace.

12:39Jeff Lunden:The conditions in the dressing rooms for the actors and technicians who work back here were, I mean, I won't say barbaric. At their best, we could say it's like summer camp, remember? Literally, rain would come in the dressing rooms. The air conditioning was extremely suspect. There was no privacy. It was just really criminal.

13:02Lupita Nyong'o:We walk along and look at what will be the dressing rooms.

13:06Jeff Lunden:Walls are up. Sheetrock is up. The sliding doors are in. Obviously, it's far from finished, but we've really advanced the plot here in terms of getting the dressing rooms ready to go. There are five dressing rooms, three of which are fully accessible to folks who use wheelchairs or other mobility devices.

13:25Lupita Nyong'o:After touring the theater's bowels, we go outside. It's still freezing, but very sunny. The new stage light towers are up, An elevator to the stage manager's booth high above the audience has been constructed, and the workers are all over the empty theater shell. So we are now on the stage of the Delacorte Theater, which is very much a construction space, and I guess, what are they all doing now? They're sawing wood for where the seats are going to go?

13:59Jeff Lunden:They're finishing the decking. So the decking is made out of a product called Kebany, which is treated with a bio-liquid. It makes a hardwood far, far harder. And it's super exciting to be here right now because I haven't seen the beginning of the seat installation. So all new seats. We were able to maintain the same seat couch as we had prior even though we've increased the amount of accessibility and even though we've increased the width of the seats overall.

14:28Lupita Nyong'o:Work continues and about a month later I meet architect Stephen Chu in the offices of his firm Ennead on the 40th floor of the new World Trade Center overlooking lower Manhattan and New York Harbor. Chu, who's previously worked on renovations of the public theater's home in Greenwich Village, explains to me how he was able to retain the same number of seats, even if they're wider.

14:55Jeff Lunden:The solution that we came upon was to hold the footprint, but to give the exterior wrap, if you will, just a slight cant. And what that volumetric impact does is not just give us more footprint above, but also give an expression that's a little bit more outward and a little bit more engaging towards the public face approaching the theater.

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15:20Lupita Nyong'o:In other words, the Delacorte now cantilevers slightly outwards, greeting the audience.

15:32Jeff Lunden:Hello, Greg Jenner here. I'm the host of You're Dead to Me, the BBC comedy show that takes history seriously. Every episode I pair up a top historian with a fantastic comedian and we have a lovely, funny, fascinating chat about a different subject from world history. And in this new series we're beginning with an epic voyage through the story of Homer, the Iliad and the Odyssey. and that's with Kyle Smith-Bino joining us and then we'll be learning about Francis Galton and the racist discredited pseudoscience of eugenics with Desiree Birch we'll meet many medieval saints in their bone boxes with Rachel Parrott so if that sounds like your sort of thing listen to You're Dead to Me wherever you get your podcasts thank you, bye

16:16Lupita Nyong'o:you're listening to the documentary in the studio from the BBC World Service. We're looking at the renovation and reopening of New York's famous Delacorte Theatre, home of Free Shakespeare in the Park. The beautiful new Redwood exterior provides the backdrop for a ribbon-cutting ceremony five months after I toured the construction site. It's the 15th of July, and it's one of the hottest days of the year, almost 90 degrees. about 32 degrees Celsius, and it's very humid. A small stage has been built and is crowded with public theater board members and many local politicians, all of whom are stakeholders in the$85 million project, and all of whom speak, while a crowd of invited guests and media wilts.

17:11Lupita Nyong'o:Executive Director Patrick Willingham acknowledges the large group on stage.

17:17Jeff Lunden:We would not be here today without this entire community that's assembled around us. What we've created is not just a stage. It's a platform for democracy when so many of them are being lost. A gathering place, a commons, a celebration of what public space can be when it's shaped by values we all share. Access, community, inclusion, joy. this theater, this, if I may, open-air cathedral of possibility, is finally ready for its next act.

17:53Lupita Nyong'o:New York City's comptroller, Brad Lander, has composed verse for the occasion.

17:58Jeff Lunden:To renovate or not to renovate, that was the question. Whether it was nobler in this space to suffer the slings and arrows of quite predictable fortune, or to take arms against a sea of raccoons, and by construction thwart them.

18:15Lupita Nyong'o:And several actors from the upcoming production of Twelfth Night perform short Shakespearean excerpts, including Peter Dinklage, famous for Game of Thrones. He will be playing Malvolio, but here plays the chorus in Henry V. Oh, for a muse of fire that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention, a kingdom for a stage,

18:41Jeff Lunden:princes to act, and monarchs to behold the swelling scene.

18:44Lupita Nyong'o:The theater is open for people to inspect, and I go in. In February, there was only a single row of chairs. Now it's an open-air forest of green seats, and stage technicians are installing the set for Twelfth Night. Patrick Willingham says it's been a sprint.

19:06Jeff Lunden:So since February, we have been in a race to the finish to get the construction done and get the theater ready for our first performance at Twelfth Night, which starts on August 7th. So a lot of finishing details, a lot of adjustments, and the load-in of the production actually began about six or seven weeks ago.

19:25Lupita Nyong'o:For artistic director Oscar Eustace, it's a particularly exciting moment.

19:30Jeff Lunden:And now, after all of this physical construction, we're about to have something completely ephemeral happen that's the point of all the construction. The actors are going to come in and they're going to make something out of thin air that vanishes every night and then gets created new every night. And that's what's so beautiful.

19:49Lupita Nyong'o:But before that can happen, the production of Twelfth Night, which has been rehearsing downtown, needs to go through technical rehearsals and dress rehearsals in the new space. And on another brutally hot July day, they've all gathered in the theater, or most of them at least.

20:09Jeff Lunden:The company, the time is 2 o 'clock. The time is 2 o 'clock. We have a number of people with subway woes. We're going to give it till 2.05, and then we will all meet in the house for the orientation.

20:21Lupita Nyong'o:The voice on the microphone is production stage manager Buzz Cohen. She's worked on over 80 shows for the public theater, and Twelfth Night is her 22nd at the Delacorte.

20:34Jeff Lunden:You know, I have to learn the new space, just, you know, your body patterns to where the pathways are. And so we are adjusting to that. It is clearly more efficient and comfortable, but the bones of it, bones are still the same.

20:54Lupita Nyong'o:Actor Joe Tapper, who's playing the sea captain and the priest in Twelfth Night, and was a mechanical in A Midsummer Night's Dream before the renovation tells me it's much nicer, especially those new dressing rooms. I mean, it has that, like, oh, you're moving into a new apartment feel, you know,

21:15Jeff Lunden:like everything's brand new, all the fixtures are brand new and never been used, the plugs are clean, you know, like the plugs for your iPhone, it's like, it's incredible.

21:25Lupita Nyong'o:The tech rehearsal begins on stage with the entire company, cast, crew, and public theater office folks. They stand in a large circle, introducing themselves, their preferred pronouns, and roles in the production.

21:40Jeff Lunden:We'll pass the microphone around. Kiara, she, her, producing. Emma, she, her, producing.

21:47Lupita Nyong'o:There are discussions about dealing with the heat, staying safe, especially in what is still a construction zone, And, of course, we're out in the middle of nature. Raccoons are not your friends. If you see a raccoon, take a picture. Don't go near it. Don't feed it. Don't go near it. The company takes a long walk through the backstage spaces and underneath the stage, familiarizing themselves. At the break, I meet up with director Saheem Ali, whose production of Merry Wives reopened the Delacorte in 2021, the first live theater in New York coming out of the COVID pandemic.

22:24Jeff Lunden:And now again, it's a reopening of a different shade because the theater is, I mean, it's wild. I'm looking around now and it feels so familiar, yet it's like someone took a magic rag and like whisked it all into spick and span shape. So it's kind of remarkable that they destroyed the whole thing and then rebuilt it. So I'm really, really excited to begin this. It's a christening of a space that has meant so much to so many people.

22:51Lupita Nyong'o:And a little over a week later, it is time to christen that space. On that early morning ticket line, I meet a retired couple who arrived around 4.30 a.m. Daphne Gregory Thomas tells me. We lived on the Upper West Side for many, many years, and we have recently retired to Maine. We come back and forth, but we drove from Maine yesterday to be here for this today. We haven't missed a show in many, many years. and we weren't missing the opening. About 10 hours later, when I tell artistic director Oscar Eustace this at a press scrum before the performance, he's moved, but not surprised.

23:32Jeff Lunden:There are so many people who feel like they own the Delacorte. When I talk to them, so many people have stories about being in the line, about the first time it rained when they were at the Delacorte, about when they saw James Earl Jones, about when they saw Al Pacino here. There are so many people who feel like this theater is part of their life.

23:53Lupita Nyong'o:And Patrick Willingham tells me the demand for tickets was so high, not everyone could get in.

24:00Jeff Lunden:So we had about 500 people who were waiting in line who we had to turn away. That does not happen every day, I just want to say. Downtown, we do a lottery, an in-person lottery at the public theater. We had 250 people show up in the lobby today. We distributed about 50 tickets there. And on our online lottery, 16 ,000 people registered for tickets just for tonight.

24:25Lupita Nyong'o:And an hour later on a cool New York evening, an enthusiastic Willingham addresses the packed house.

24:33Jeff Lunden:Good evening! And welcome back.

24:42Lupita Nyong'o:And an equally enthusiastic Oscar Eustace tells the crowd they are living Joe Papp's dream.

24:49Jeff Lunden:It's the people's theater, and it should feel like a palace, because palaces are not only for people who have the money to pay for them, not in a democracy. Palaces should belong for the people.

25:01Lupita Nyong'o:After a plea to turn off cell phones, the very first performance at the rebuilt Delacorte Theater begins.

25:08Jeff Lunden:Conceal me what I am. I'll serve this duke. Thou shalt disguise me as a eunuch to him. It may be worth thy pains, for I can sing and speak to him in many sorts of music that will be very worth his service. I cannot love him. Let him send no more. Unless, perchance, you come to me again to tell me how he takes it. Fare you well. I thank you for your pain. Spend this for me. Be not afraid of greatness. Some are bored great. Some achieve greatness. And some have greatness thrust upon them.

25:45Lupita Nyong'o:In the production, Lupita Nyong 'o and her actual brother, Junior, play the separated twins, Viola and Sebastian. Some lines have been translated from Shakespearean verse into Swahili to emphasize that the sister and brother are immigrants in a new land. and their reunion at the end of the play is particularly moving.

26:14Lupita Nyong'o:If nothing lets to make us happy both but this, do not embrace me till each circumstance of Mahali, Wakati, Bahati,

26:25Jeff Lunden:do cohere and jump that I am Viola.

26:30Lupita Nyong'o:At the curtain call, there's an extended standing ovation. Afterwards, I catch up with some of the folks I met early online that morning to see what they think. Mary Flum Peterson, the person at the front of the line, tells me she was impressed.

26:48Jeff Lunden:Peter Dinklage stole my heart in the show as far as I'm concerned. It was wonderful. Sandra Oh, also amazing. And in terms of the theater and the atmosphere, it was just great to be back. Full moon, we really enjoyed that. Crickets chirping, I'd forgotten how lovely that was. And the seats are wider. I mean, I was kind of impressed by that. Yeah, so it was just wonderful.

27:14Lupita Nyong'o:And Daphne and Dean Thomas, the retired couple who drove down from Maine to be at the very first performance, tell me...

27:22Jeff Lunden:It's magnificent. They did such a wonderful job. And yet... Still the same. If you feel... They didn't, like, renovate it in such a way that you don't feel like you're at the Delacorte. I was hoping they would keep sort of the soul. They did. They left the soul. They did. The soul is here.

27:47Lupita Nyong'o:You've been listening to the documentary in the studio from the BBC World Service on the reopening of New York City's Delacorte Theatre. Presented and produced by me, Jeff London. The executive producer is Paula McGrath.

28:13Jeff Lunden:Hello, Greg Jenner here. I'm the host of You're Dead to Me, the BBC comedy show that takes history seriously. Every episode, I pair up a top historian with a fantastic comedian, and we have a lovely, funny, fascinating chat about a different subject from world history. And in this new series, we're beginning with an epic voyage through the story of Homer, the Iliad, and the Odyssey. And that's with Kyle Smith-Bino joining us. And then we'll be learning about Francis Galton and the racist, discredited pseudoscience of eugenics with Desiree Birch. We'll meet many medieval saints in their bone boxes with Rachel Parris.

28:46Jeff Lunden:So if that sounds like your sort of thing, listen to You're Dead to Me wherever you get your podcasts. Thank you. Bye.

From the publisher

The Delacorte Theater, home to New York's beloved free outdoor Shakespeare performances in Central Park, has undergone an $85 million refurbishment. Now clad in redwood timber from disused water tanks from each of New York’s boroughs, the structure has been made accessible for disabled audiences, actors and backstage workers. It's also been made water and raccoon-proof. Presenter Jeff Lunden has been following its progress – from a hard-hat tour in freezing February to the summer previews of a new production of Twelfth Night, starring Oscar-winning 12 Years a Slave actor Lupita Nyong’o, Sandra Oh from Killing Eve, and Game of Thrones’ Peter Dinklage. This episode of The Documentary, comes to you from In the Studio, exploring the processes of the world’s most creative people.

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