Are Migrant Hotels a Hub For TERROR | Patrick Christys Exposes Calais Migrant Camps

23:31And then here's my number and my location if you want the gear. And like, you would have thought that maybe the police would do something about that. But it's like that, but for human traffickers, And so we started communicating with them and posing as illegal migrants and saying to them that we were in Calais just to see how far we could let this run. They were giving us prices. They were giving us locations of where they were going to be and when we needed to be there. They were giving us voice notes. They were giving us every single piece of information that you would possibly need in order to get these people.

23:59So we were handing all that over to the British authorities and some of the French authorities, and we didn't feel like we were really getting anywhere with that. and then it then it went up a level then we started to see people who were putting on their TikTok stories and their WhatsApp stories ISIS propaganda videos of ISIS battlefield footage beheading videos that were also posing what in what appeared to be northern France with semi-automatic weapons and we were like this is heavy heavy stuff this and these people were Afghans, Iraqi Kurds, Albanians, Turks. And we were like, this is bad. Because we already know that terrorist sleeper cells have come across the channel.

24:41And that's before we've even spoken about all the murders and paedophiles that we've imported. But we know that terrorist sleeper cells have come across the channel, both ISIS, al-Qaeda, and the Iranian regime as well. And we feel as though we'd identified that this was definitively still happening, or at least the people running this trade were very sympathetic to Islamist extremism. and we reported all of that again to the National Crime Agency, some other authorities here in Britain and to the French and again we felt as though we weren't maybe getting anywhere with that because we left those accounts for a couple of weeks and we returned to them and they were still operating.

25:14So I had a conversation at GB News with some of the bosses there and I said, look, I think really I'm sick of banging on about this every night. I think I'm going to have to go over there and have a look for this ourselves and try to show the British public how easy it is to get in touch with these human traffickers landed in Calais and within 20 minutes of touching down and getting to the location in Calais we sent our location to the eight or nine human traffickers that I had in my phone book three of them replied like within minutes with locations all operating from pretty much the same little bit of of that coastline there so we tipped up and we met three of them within the space of two hours bang bang bang straight away one of them was right in the middle of one of these camps as well.

25:58And one of them had the profile picture of him stood next to a helicopter carrying two AK-47s. That was his profile picture. So that's that guy. That's the kind of guy he is. And yeah, we just showed how easy it was to meet these people. I don't remember seeing a single French police officer at any point during that in the camps or anything like that, which I found quite surprising given that we've bunged the French about half a billion quid. So we didn't see anything like that. And yeah, we were just able to able to meet these people and show with what complete and utter impunity they are operating with, and what kind of people they are one guy when we when we rumbled him, he sent a few foot soldiers over and, you know, we mugged them off a little bit and showed who they were and everything.

26:42One of them ran away. He called me and it's on camera, he called me and threatened to kill me. And that was, you know, that these are these people that And the really worrying thing, and this is the thing that doesn't get enough coverage, the really thing that should really worry most people watching and listening to this is that I believe that all of these gangs are also operating from in Britain. FX's American Horror Story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment with the iconic horrors you love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan-favorite roles. light your candles draw your pentagrams and prepare for a supreme surprise fx's american horror story 13 now streaming on hulu you fell in love at first crunch and now the crispy chicken crunch wrap slider is back at taco bell but with a twist it's crispy all-white meat chicken nuggets inside a slider-sized crunch wrap but now you can enjoy them with the kick of hidden valley diablo ranch or try the tortilla chip coated nuggets on their own they're waiting for you the crispy chicken crunch wrap slider a brand new classic is back only a taco bell and i fear exactly the same thing and if that story you've just told us there if that doesn't concern people massively i would like to know what what does concern them what does if that doesn't concern you what does that is frightening imagine Imagine being somebody on the left that's lambasting people for being concerned and vocal.

28:23Imagine in 10 years' time, once we've had a mass home invasion, an orchestrated terror attack to put the fear of God into us all, a bit like an October the 7th style attack. How are they going to sit there at the dinner table if they're still alive to do so and say, do you know what? I actually fought for these animals that have now taken over. I just wouldn't want to be that person. This migrant crisis in Europe has been running for years and years and years and years now. And there was no question of the fact that I think initially there was huge numbers of genuine refugees from places that we could see that the wars were happening and all of that stuff.

28:55And I think there was a case to say that, OK, we added some kind of moral obligation to take a proportion of those people. Right. OK. I don't think that's who these people are anymore coming across. Like we've created basically an illegal tourism industry. I mean, there's a bloke on, I've got him on my phone here, who, when I was in that warehouse in Calais that I was mentioning to you there, again, all blokes, he's from Libya, this guy. And he was filming me on his phone and he put it on TikTok. It was quite handy, really, because then I could go on his TikTok and find out who he was. Thanks, mate.

29:26Cheers, mate. And he has done a video diary of his entire journey to Europe. He's been to more European countries than I have, this guy. Seriously. He started out coming from Libya, ended up in Gran Canaria. He's been all the way through. He's having a great time in every country he goes to. He's on a sabbatical. He's loving it. He's absolutely loving it. And he's going to come to Britain. I would pretty much guarantee you'll be in Britain within a week and we'll give him asylum because we're mugs. So, again, forget just the threat and all this stuff. These people just aren't genuine refugees and asylum seekers anymore.

29:57Some of them will be, but then I would also question, this is the other thing I was saying to these people when I was out there, like the people who were coming across the channel. Now, you know, why is it that you're coming to Britain and not making a life for yourself in any of these countries? If these people were all genuine doctors and engineers, Spain would have snapped them up. Germany would have snapped them up. France would have snapped them up. So would Dubai. So would Dubai. Well, yeah, well, quite. Engineers and doctors, thank you very much. You know, this is it. So, again, why is it that these people have been through several different safe destinations and want to come to Britain?

30:30There's a couple of factors there. At first, we make it very easy for them and we don't seem to be deporting them or anything like that. We reward them. But there's also the fact that no other country really wanted them. And at what point does charity become insanity? And we have become insane as a country. And again, it is total gaslighting for us to be like, these are all vulnerable people. People will hold up those odd images that we see of a woman and a child in a dengue. And I don't like seeing that. I don't like seeing a child that's like, doesn't even look like he's old enough to talk or know what's going on, being pushed out into the English Channel.

31:05I mean, I do think their parents have some responsibility to play because they were not at that kind of threat in France. So there is a level of personal responsibility there. However, I don't enjoy seeing that. I don't enjoy getting reports come through about people who have drowned in the English Channel and all this stuff. And you think, right, but you can't ignore that. You can't let that cloud what we can all see is going on, which is that there is basically an invasion of Britain that is taking place by predominantly young men from very war-torn countries with very backward views about women especially, but also just, you know, there's a propensity to violence in a lot of those countries and extreme violence.

31:42There's the massive risk of radical Islamist ideology and they are coming to Britain en masse and they are coming here largely because no other country wants them and they have tried in every other country. So we can't just keep lying to people about what the reality is there. I mean, you hit the perfect point. They're not refugees. Now, I would be, and I don't say this lightly, you see the people that hold their placards saying refugees are welcome here. Well, here's the thing. I guarantee they wouldn't house a refugee. Well, they've got the room, mate. Yeah, exactly. Sorry, I'm in my mum's basement.

32:12Oh, rent. Refugees, actual refugees fleeing war-torn countries with women and children, they are welcome here. Yeah, and this is another thing that the left like to say, oh, you weren't complaining about the Ukrainian women and children, were you? I bet it's because they were white. Well, no. Firstly, they were women and children, for a start. And they were refugees. Yeah, and they had every intention of going back home one day. And they do, I think the majority of them do want to go back home one day. A lot of them, we can argue, this is a whole separate topic, the old Ukraine-Russia situation.

32:41I don't really want to get into the years and how it's done. But the certain facts are is that their husbands were probably conscripted into the Ukrainian military, whether they wanted to be or not, and sent off to fight and die in some meat grinder of a field somewhere in Donetsk or whatever. So we can see that happening. We can physically see all of the missiles, all the stuff going on over there and everything. And we're like, well, we'll take women and children from Ukraine on a temporary basis. The fact that they also happen to probably share more of a Christian culture is a secondary issue.

33:09Yeah, I think that's quite nice. That's a good thing. Probably helps them to assimilate a bit easier and all that stuff. Great. Fine. But it was not a racist thing why people were more on board with the Ukrainian refugees. It's like, who would you rather have living in your house, right? A Ukrainian grandmother, her daughter and a child, right? Or like 30 Sudanese lads. Well, I know which one I would choose, just logically. And that's not based on anything about what colour or religion they are. That's just a logical thing. Yeah, unfortunately, the left don't use logic. But they're clever enough to twist your words and what you mean.

33:46It's like, okay, so you know what I mean better than me. Yeah. That's impressive. You're a smart guy. Yeah, insane. Civil unrest, civil war. Inevitable, probable, preventable. I just firmly subscribe to the view that there is a massive existential problem facing Britain. It's not enough to press pause on the situation. We also have to enact certain policies that undo the mess that's taken place here. So mass deportations. Mass deportations of people who have no right to be here because they're illegal. Mass deportations of foreign criminals, etc. so we already have to now act to reverse all of that stuff.

34:24That's what we have to do. I think if governments act and do those things, then mass civil unrest and disobedience going forward is preventable. It's like letting radical Islamism set root in Britain was preventable. We didn't have to do that. And we just seem to be like, people in positions of power seem to be almost deliberately creating a situation where it's like the perfect breeding ground. And the fact we've got so many people in our country that hate our country with a passion and a vengeance, it does make me think the more we stand up and speak about it now and contest and protest, the better.

35:01And also remember who your brothers are. We are now one big kind of family. We need to stick together like glue because there's enough people out there that don't like us just for being us and we don't need to be having silly little squabbles and falling out of each other when really we can kind of merge. In the last couple of months, the left have really mugged themselves off. They've really mugged themselves off. They've turned up, masked up, shouting things that just don't mean anything anymore, calling like a woman who looks like she's called Deborah who works at the local cafe like a Nazi, screaming in her face because she's protesting at the fact that basically some child was abused in her community.

35:38The left are losing this battle at the moment. Let them carry on with that kind of behaviour. Let them carry on. Keep yourselves in check. And it is winnable, I think. It's easier said than done. Totally. But this is such a great conversation because we're all saying that we're not perfect people. We've all got to keep working on ourselves and others. I'm a nightmare. But here's a prediction. So there's a new kind of movement. There's a new wave called the Pink Ladies. The women are standing up. The mothers are standing up. People that probably five, ten years ago would have been on the left. But they're now protesting against all things that they should be.

36:17The pink ladies, a peaceful female movement, objecting to the Islamic takeover, the rape and murder of our children, the increase in violence, the hike in crime. How long before the left brand them the pink Nazis? Well, it's already happening. There you go. It's already happening. No, it is. This is it. We've become over-Nazid, right? This is the thing now. So, like, you know, if everyone's a Nazi, then, like, no one's a Nazi pretty much, aren't they? And, yeah, we're seeing this all the time now where you've got these people standing there just calling everyone a far-right fascist, fascist, fascist.

36:51I mean, the irony, of course, as you've alluded to, is that they behave like fascists. Oh, yeah. I mean, really. If you were deaf and you just were shown footage side by side of some of these protests that have been taking place recently and you were asked to identify in your mind which one were the fascists, you're not pointing at the ladies in pink, are you? the hard left really struggle with any of this stuff because i think they just see they just see like misery and evil everywhere in a brutal oppressive system that needs to be completely shattered from top to bottom they're on this complete mission and you know they think that gender is a social construct that needs to go as well they need this complete re-evaluation of the way that we think about everything and view everything in the prism to which we look at the world and all of that stuff they are just a totally humorless bunch that have no sense of self-awareness whereas i think a lot of people who are on the right are basically just more normal and can have a bit more fun as well.

37:42And I think that's an important thing, just to show the human side of it as well. And again, people can ask themselves, whose side do you want to be on? Do you want to be on the side of the people who are just like, you know, kind of your ordinary man and woman and you might meet down the pub or nod to when you walk in your dog or down the local high street? Or do you want to be on the side of those people that would probably over Christmas dinner try to get their own grandma arrested by the thought police for misgendering someone? Yeah, a robotic couch dweller, a spectator of life that does fuck all but has got an opinion on everything.

38:13And it's not a good one. Silence. When I say silence, I mean being silent, being kept silent. I think that leads to massive spikes in crime. If you're too scared to call it out, how's it going to stop? Well, yeah. I mean, this is it. I mean, we're actually seeing several different things that have happened today. I was listening to the radio on the way up here. The first thing is one of the heads of, like, the police chief's uni or something, something like that, I know, police chief's board or whatever they are, has come out and said that we should be tackling shoplifters. He said something like, well, if you see someone shoplifting, well, why are you tackling them yourself?

38:52You go, okay, all right, yeah, but, like, technically whose job's that? And also, like, what if they are, they've got a needle on them or a machete or something. So are you telling us that maybe we should be doing more to do that? Isn't that the job of the authorities? And then when people do get reported to the police and you provide them with a picture or a video and then they still don't get nicked and you think well what's actually happening there? I do find that quite bad. The other thing that happened is that we've just had this big announcement. We were told yesterday, I was told at the GB News studio yesterday, there's a story that's coming tomorrow which is embargoed and it's going to be about the police releasing the ethnicity and nationality of suspects.

39:32So we thought, all right, cool, maybe they're going to do that then. OK, because they do it to everyone else, don't they? I mean, there were people who, you know, nicked in the wake of the whole Southport stuff, who at that moment in time were still innocent because they'd not been going to trial or anything like that, who were arrested, had their faces put out there, had their home addresses put out there and were basically all branded as far-right racist, which could have had very serious consequences. Again, I will stress that those people at that moment in time had not actually been to court yet.

40:01So everyone's innocent until they've been proven guilty. So the police never seem to have a problem with the description of someone as long as they've been white. So we thought, OK, well, that's changing now. Good. Because then that removes a level of secrecy, like what you said, that idea of there being a cover up, that idea of always we're trying to be silenced. The truth is trying to be hidden from us about who this who this alleged perpetrator is. Anyway, it's turned out that it's not really that at all. They said that in, I'm going to make sure, I want to make sure I get this right, right, because I showed this to you before.

40:28Here we go. Right, I'll read this to you now. Police told that they can reveal suspect's ethnicity in high profile cases. I'm going to, what's a high profile case? Isn't a high profile case kind of whatever we decide it is? So like, that to me, from my perspective, if I get wind of someone where someone goes, right, someone from a migrant hotel has, in my local area, they've done something to like a kid in a park or something like that. Well, I think that's a really high profile case, especially given the climate that we're operating in in the conversation that we've just had now. So if I went to the police and I was the only one who had that story, no one else did, and I said, okay, we've got this.

41:01Can you confirm that that's happened? And can you tell me, please, the ethnicity and nationality of the suspect you've arrested? They could decide, well, you're the only one who's got this story now. So that's not a high profile case. So I'd have to go on air, presumably, and tell people that this had happened. And then other outlets might pick it up. Then you might start talking about it. Some other people might start talking about it. and then it becomes a high-profile case and then they might release their ethnicity. So we're in exactly the same situation we are now where we're sitting here going, why don't you just tell us at the start?

41:31Nothing has changed. As far as I can tell, nothing has really changed. And again, it's gaslighting. The Home Secretary, Yvette Cooper, welcomed the guidance as a step forward and that the government and public want greater transparency. Well, we want greater transparency. I'm not convinced this government does because this is piss poor. And the government hasn't exactly behaved as though it wanted massive transparency when it came to things like the Pakistani rape scandal, did it? Or the Southport incident to begin with. It's just insane. That to me just screams that nothing's changed and we saw the problems that evolved from the lies and secrecy after the Southport massacre, storm a gaslight in the nation, and we saw what the consequences were, which were very detrimental to the entire nation's reputation.

42:14And it seems like it's exactly the same bullshit but just packaged completely differently now. It's like, okay, you're just thinking of different ways to trick the public. They've just put lipstick on a pig, haven't they? Yeah. That's it. They've just put lipstick on a pig and said, oh, there you go, we've done something. Because that buys them a bit of time. And it's one of the things that really, really pitties me off. It's not just Labour that they're doing it, by the way. I mean, the Tories had 14 years at this and completely screwed it. I mean, the clue's in the name of the Conservatives, isn't it?

42:40And they didn't conserve anything. They didn't bother to conserve anything. But all it is now, I think, is about an exercise in trying to buy time. so they will be able to say things like um like oh well we're we're looking at having an inquiry into the pakistani rape scandal and then like if we get that whatever form that eventually takes well then that'll probably take a couple of years to do maybe so then they can in that in that whole period of time they can say well we've got to wait for the results of this we've got to wait we've got to let them do their work it's like this isn't it now we've introduced new legislation on the ethnicity and high profile cases.

43:15Okay, so we'll have to wait for something to happen and then wait and see if they release anything. And then if they do, then I, if they don't, then I. And again, it's just buying time, buying time. This deal with the French. Again, gaslighting 101. One in one out deal with the French. It's not a one in one out deal, is it? Do you know what? I'm glad you mentioned that. My son, we was in Miller and Carter the other day. I love Miller and Carter. I do. Much better than Hawksmore. You know, they shut down the Miller and Carter in Wilmsville, where I'm from, and I nearly went to lay a wreath outside.

43:46Honestly. Honestly. Anyway, carry on. You're in mourning. Yeah, I am. Grieving the loss of Miller and Carter. Well, my son said to me, what is this one in one out thing that they're talking about? So can you answer my son's question? What is the one in one out policy? It's a lie. That's what it is. It's not one in one out at all. We've had 2 ,000 illegal migrants cross the channel since this policy came into action. We have not sent a single person back to France yet. The deal, as I understand it, if you call it a deal, it's a surrender really, is that the boats keep coming, great, and then of the 2 ,000 people that have come in the last few days, let's say maybe we send 50 back to France.

44:29We then get 50 others in return. And this is a very grey area, this. And is it for migrant replacement? Yeah, they're not like 50 French millionaires. And it's a very grey area about what security checks the French have done on these people and what they have to tell us. I mean, what kind of bullshit is that? It looked to me like the French didn't really have to tell us who these people were necessarily or kind of what the security background was for them if they even knew. And the government kind of came out and said, oh, no, yeah, they will be thoroughly security checked. But then there's been some other comments about the idea that they might not be.

45:04It's all of, again, it's just a complete go. So what it means in practice in terms of numbers, which is what I think most people actually care about, that you're somebody just cares about the numbers, right? What does this mean to the numbers? Well, it basically means that as long as the boats keep coming, we're going to receive exactly the same number of migrants that we're getting if we hadn't had done this deal, because we're going to accept everyone that we can't send back to France. Of the 50 that we are going to send back to France, we're going to get 50 in return anyway. So it won't make a blind bit of difference, really.

45:34Wow. There's been an explosion, I would say, in audience that watch TuneIn to GB News. We now know it's the most popular news channel out there. And I think you play a very big part in that. There's been people that have accused GB News of appealing to gammons and racists. Now, before I ask the question, I would like to know in the comments now, now people have sort of watched this chat for 45, 50 minutes, do we either of us appear to be like racist bigoted gammons that are unreasonable you might regret asking that people will clip it up let them do it or do you think there's genuine cause for concern but you will know better than anybody predominantly who tunes in to GB News what's your audience who's your audience it's fantastic this and this is why now whenever you get like your James O 'Brien's or you see these people see these people on question time they like dig up a Guardian journalist from somewhere.

46:33And they'll just toss this stuff out there where it's like, they obviously live in this world where they think that the GB News viewer is like a 60 or 70 year old man or woman who's very, very red in the face, who wakes up every morning and sings Royal Britannia and harks back to the days of the empire. They just have this view of these people. And I just laugh at this now. So several things are happening. So the first thing, and I think it's a really important thing is that our viewer base is getting a lot younger now social media has a huge part to play in that because you know i'll go on and do my show they'll clip it up our team will clip things up and it's on tiktok and it's everywhere right so that that's that that gets a lot of people who are younger seeing it i'm getting stopped now by by men and women boys and girls actually really aged anything from like say 15 to 30 just in the streets so we'll watch this we'll watch that was so so it's not just it's not just the age demographic that's shifting um but also just the um the ethnic dynamics of it as well and this is something that i find you know really really really interesting and again i would i would love it if people like you know people on the left just maybe just follow me around for a day or something like that i mean i'd hate it because i'd be being followed by james o 'brien but like you know follow me around for a day no one wants that no but like for example near where i live there's quite a big uh iranian community and by that i mean people that fled Iran when the Mullers all came in.

47:54And they're all like fully signed up members of GB News. Loads of them are incredibly pro-Trump, right? And they're saying to me like, why are you letting these lunatics into your country? You're letting the people that we fled from into Britain. We're going to have Iranians leaving Britain soon. Yeah, well, this is it. But also you just have loads of people as well. I mean, there's a lot of the Caribbeans and Africans as well, big Christian culture there, of course. So they actually kind of came on board as far as I could tell. some of them anyway, this is just from what they said to me, because some of them were really quite anti this radical trans agenda.

48:27That really offended them. They were very, very, very anti that. And they thought, well, GB News is kind of the only place where we're speaking about that. So I get stopped by people all the time who are either African or Caribbean, et cetera. Obviously, the Jewish community is broadly speaking, I don't want to say not a monoculture, obviously, but the Jewish community, a lot of them are quite in favour of GB News given that we've been standing up against all this kind of, I would argue, at times just really openly pro-Hamas stuff that seems to be taking place on Britain's streets as well. I mean, again, as well, you know, you've got people that stop, there's a guy who lives near, I won't name him as well, but an Indian guy, Indian family.

49:04If I'm walking around, I lose half an hour of my day every single day talking to this geezer. And it's brilliant because, again, he's got direct experience of some of the skirmishes that his family have had with some of the people in parts of Pakistan that he thinks is really, really backward in medieval parts of mer-pore, which happens to be a large part where we've imported a lot of people who've been responsible for the grooming gangs issue. So these are people from literally all over the world of all different ethnic backgrounds, of all different religions. They're all tuned into GB News. And the idea that we've got this tiny little window of people now who are all, you know, kind of, like I said, these kind of like 60 or 70-year-old gammons that live in a static home in Skegness, It's just that when someone tells me or I see it on telly or radio and people are derogatory about GBC viewers, I just think I stop listening to you because you just need to get out more.

49:56I'm like, oh, you're an idiot. Yeah, people boots on the deck. I mean, even me, little old me, I get a great reception whenever I go out. I mean, I really do. Even people that disagree with me, they come up and have a little chat. And then after 10 minutes, they say, I'm really glad I had a chat with you. I had it literally two days ago in my local gym. she's married to a Muslim man she come up to me and said oh Liam you probably won't like me I said no probably will I like most people she said well I've seen what you talk about on your show and you know I've got a Muslim family and I said well that's fine I said you I mean I would never have known that I said but you know has your husband come here to spread the caliphate is he an Islamist does he want the eradication of the West does he want Sharia law implemented she went oh no goodness me I said and he's contributed towards the economy for many many years she said yes I said oh great well he's probably against the same people I am You know, I went to Birmingham to cover the bin strike there.

50:45And obviously, a huge, huge Muslim population in Birmingham, massive, massive. There's some wards there that I think are like 80%, 80 % Muslim. And I was walking around just like, you know, vox popping people in the street about the bin collection and stuff like that. And just by definition, like the majority of people that were around were Muslim. And I actually didn't get one bit of trouble at all. and in fact the opposite happened where there were cars that were driving past with like young lads. It was quite funny actually. You know that kind of like souped up Renault Clio type stuff. And they'd pull up and they're like, is it you from GB News?

51:21And they're like, oh, you're right. Drive off. And you know what it is? It's because they actually don't like grooming gangs either. So they didn't think it was racist for people like you and me to call out the fact that that has been a big issue amongst aspects of the British Pakistani community or just Pakistani community in Britain. They didn't think that was racist because that's not them. They're not that. so they can see straight through that. It's like white liberals who think, oh my gosh, you're tarnishing all of the Pakistani community with the same brush. Well, a lot of the Pakistani community don't feel that way.

51:49Have you tried asking them? Because maybe you'd get a shock. I'd imagine a lot of them are secret GB News subscribers as well. Possibly. Well, I've heard people on the right have accused GB News of being woke for not ever inviting Tommy Robinson on. And I've spoke to lots of people from GB News and I'm never ever going to name them because that's, you know, what's said privately remains private but can you see that changing can you see a bit of a shift down the line because he's been proven to be right sort of more times than not Tommy Tom Robinson's been 100 % right about the grooming gang's issue and he was ahead of his time on that and I think he deserves a huge amount of credit for it a huge amount of credit and we can talk about this in a little bit more detail by the way you know a bit later on just about I think the way that he was treated about that and I would like to go on record about that actually just in terms of the GB News side of it so for me personally as a journalist I'm happy to interview anyone so like I'd interview Kim Jong-un I'd happily interview like the guy whoever's the head of whatever ISIS is now or something like that I'm also not saying Tom Robinson's like those people I'm just making a point Would you interview Bonnie Blue?

52:55No, no, I don't go that far I never go that far never go full Bonnie Blue so from my personal perspective I'm happy to interview absolutely anybody body. One thing that I will say is that I think that we have incredibly outdated and ridiculous and ludicrous contempt of court laws in this country. And if you look back at the situation that Tommy Robinson has found himself in largely over the course of, say, the last, roughly speaking, three years, where he's either been entirely involved in some kind of legal action or in prison. And the case that I would use to back this up is what happened to him when he was about to be released this time, they slapped another couple of charges on him.

53:36Like, I think, was it a week before he was released or something? Three days. Three days before he was released. Went into prison and said, here's some new charges. Right, there you go. So they slapped a load of charges on him. And why do you think they did that? Well, because he was about to come out of prison, and I think there was definitely a story to tell there. And I think there was definitely a new story. People can agree or disagree with him on anything. Some people might think it was entirely his own fault he was in there. Some people think, of course, he's been persecuted by the state.

53:58Right. But there was definitely a news story to be told there. And he'd served his prison sentence and everything was kind of sewn up, really. And there was an opportunity there, I think, for more mainstream outlets to then start interviewing him. But then that gets kiboshed by the fact that you slap a load of charges, it becomes embroiled in another active case. And that becomes very, very difficult due to our contempt of court laws and Ofcom as well, in order to be able to kind of have the kind of discussion. if you were going to interview Tommy Robinson on television, you'd want to talk about everything, whatever direction you want to go in.

54:31And because of those charges, you're just basically unable to do that. And then, and I think that is, I think that is a bit of a deliberate thing. And is that Ofcom putting the choke on it? Well, it's the law, really. It's the law. I mean, there's contempt of court. You could get him on a sort of skirt. You could get Tommy on a skirt around a few things. You could really, but I think it would be difficult. I think it would be difficult. And again, I would just say as well, like if you're going to do it, it's about a bloke who's basically been on mainstream media, or whatever you want to call it, establishment media hiatus for the last however many years because they don't want to touch you.

55:01If you were going to do it, I think you'd want to do it kind of warts and all, really. That would certainly be my view on it. So is it not better to try to wait for a time when you can do that and then do it? Just in terms of the idea about will it ever happen? Well, I don't know if it will ever happen. Would you like it to happen? I would like to interview Tommy Robinson. And I want to caveat that with several things, which is that the reasons I would like to interview him is because everyone seems to be talking about this guy all the time. So it seems a little bit ludicrous to not interview someone who is forming such a big part of public discussion and all of this.

55:45Like I said, and again, I want to emphasize this, I really do genuinely think that because, unfortunately, the laws are the way they are in this country at the moment, and the contempt of court issues and what he's literally going through right now, right now, as we speak right now, it is very difficult slash a little bit pointless to do that on national television. Some people might disagree with that, whatever, fine. That's my view on it. Whenever the name Tony Robinson is mentioned, it invokes a strong reaction from both sides. And he's an incredibly divisive figure. What I will say about him is this, is that I know from first-hand experience, When I was younger and just not particularly politically aware, maybe I was just kind of in journalism, just starting out and all of this stuff.

56:29I remember it being very much of the view that just by definition, Toby Robinson is a bad person who's in some way evil. And if you ever say anything that could be perceived as being positive about this guy, then that was like career ending for you. You should never ever say that. Well, see, I know him personally, obviously, very, very well, and his family. And I tell you something about him that, I mean, there's lots I admire about him, but I admire all of my friends. For me, I'm a fan of all of my friends. I think if I'm not a fan of a friend, then they've got no reason to be my friend. So I'm very supportive and I admire all of them for all their different strengths.

57:09And there's one thing about Tommy that I particularly admire. So he knows that he's been branded toxic Tommy. He knows it's bad for people's careers. So even when people have said negative things about him in the past, when we and him are sitting in the cafe having a coffee before we go and exercise, we talk about people. That's what people do. And he's got nothing but forgiveness and love for people, even people that have spoke ill of him. He's sort of like, I get it. He said, of course, the media have painted me to be somebody I'm not. Of course they're going to believe that. And he just doesn't hold any animosity whatsoever.

57:39And I know for a fact that if he met him face to face, A, I know that they'd really warm to him. And B, I know that no matter how bad they took it, He wouldn't hold it against them because he knows that they've been indoctrinated. They've been force-fed lies purposely to not particularly like him because he's a threat to the establishment because he's not afraid of challenging power. And they don't like that. But one thing we do know is, which will lead me to my next question, because I think people do like a bit of Starmer slamming on this channel. Tommy Robinson loves his country. Does Keir Starmer love the country and do Labour?

58:11Well, I don't think that Keir Starmer loves Britain. I don't think that Labour love Britain. And I think that Keir Starmer's track record as a lawyer, which is something that people get very upset about if you dare to raise this, because he will say and does say that it's the cab rank rules, so his work as a human rights lawyer and all of this stuff, he provided a service for essentially like whoever would ask him to. Unfortunately for Sir Keir Starmer, that did at times involve some just devastating wrong-ins. Like Hizburt Tahrir, which is now a banned terrorist organisation in Britain, they were fighting their ban in Germany, I think it was.

58:53Are they recently banned? They were recently banned here in Britain. Yes, only recently. Because they called for jihad on the streets of Britain just after October the 7th. They had big orange banners calling for jihad. So, yeah. Anyway. And he'd represented them in their case, I believe it was, to try to stop them being banned in Germany. Now, this is just one of like a catalogue of, I would think, some pretty dodgy clients that he's associated with. Now, OK, I could understand it if he was trying to get some kind of political prisoner release from a Myanmar prison hellhole and all this stuff.

59:26But did he have to take that case? He might argue he did have to take that case. I just find that a little bit ropey. I mean, the Attorney General, who is his great mate, a guy called Lord Herma, has also had a back catalogue of some unbelievably fruity characters, including one bloke who was accused of being one of the masterminds of the 9-11 terrorist attack, who Lord Herman represented. Now, I don't know about you, mate, right, but, like, if in my line of work I kept getting knocks on the door from, like, people who were, you know, loosely affiliated to Islamist terror groups, I might question whether or not I was in the right job, Or am I still asking, what is my reputation on the old Islamist terror scene here?

1:00:08You know, that didn't really seem to stop them. There's also been things that have come in about removing the immunity for historic prosecutions from British veterans. So we have a situation now where people who basically let off bombs as part of the IRA can walk free with letters of immunity and they cannot be prosecuted ever. but British soldiers who fought in the troubles, who probably just done nothing wrong, are now able to get knocks on the door by the police and be like, can you remember where you were in 19-whatever-it-was, on April the 13th on a Wednesday, you're accused of shooting an unarmed man in the back and they can be tried for murder for all of that.

1:00:49Well, I think it was this Labour government that removed their immunity on that. I find that incredibly dodgy. You look at the Chagos deal as well. That is nuts. That is insane. Who was the lawyer that was operating for Mauritius on that? It was one of Keir Starmer's friends, a bloke called Philippe Sands Casey, who, again, I think seems to be on speed dial for people who want to take this country to court and secure huge sums of money or weaken us strategically and militarily on the international stage. So why is Sir Keir Starmer friends with these people initially? Why has he appointed one of them to be our Attorney General?

1:01:20I think that's incredibly dangerous. I also think you have to have a look at the fact that he's opened the doors, despite the fact they say they won't, Open the doors for things like reparations for like slavery, etc. Climate reparations as well. You add all of these things in now. Yeah, I mean, this is the bloke that said he would rather be at Davos than Westminster. And that tells you a huge amount about the psychology of this kind of guy. He might sit here and say he is on the side of Britain. To that, I would say, I don't think you know what Britain is. And I think Sir Keir Starmer is finding out a very, very stiff lesson here.

1:01:52because for pretty much all of his life, he has been told how great he is. He's been told how intelligent he is. He's been told what a shrewd legal mind he is. So people blowed smoke up his arse 24-7. Oh, he was a bit dishy. I mean, there was even that woman who wrote Bridget Jones who said she'd based Mr. Darcy off Keir Starmer. Please. Which, mate, seriously, like, I mean, I already, I'm not going to sit here and say... Fuck off. Fuck off. Right. No. So you've got this thing about... A bridge too far. Yeah, yeah. So you've got all of this stuff. This is his life story about it. And then what's happened is he's basically won a general election by default because the Tories were unelectable.

1:02:32Reform were not in a position to win a general election at that point. I don't know what kind of cretin votes for Liberal Democrats and the Greens are just fruity. So that was it. So he's won this loveless landslide. And now, unfortunately for him, that means he has to come into contact with the British public. And he is recognising now that his views and his mindset and his set of kind of like North London human rights lawyers are a fraction of a percentage of the British population and that their views do not resonate with people like you and I, and I dare say the vast majority of people watching and listening to this.

1:03:06In fact, their views are totally alien to it. And so by what my definition of loving Britain would be, Keir Starmer does not match that definition for me. he's actually the polar opposite. I mean, he's just, he's certainly on the spectrum somewhere. But again, I think a lot of us are. But he's, I think he's a sociopath. I try to work out, is he a psycho or is he a sociopath? Probably more a sociopath. His lack of empathy and just, he's sort of dead behind the eyes. I mean, it'd be interesting to see him and Bonnie Blue have a stare out. But Starmer aside, I'm not a big fan of him. I prefer Bonnie Blue to him.

1:03:47well really well the gosh there you go let me ask my audience and I know that people don't like Bonnie Blue because I get absolutely dragged over the coals just for having her on the show but I want to know what the fuck she's playing at but who who does who do my audience I just love the way you talk on this stuff I was imagining that this was my show okay we're live on GB News at 9pm or whatever and I've got someone on who's just called Keir Starmer a sociopath or a psychopath and I can hear it in my ear now I go alright you just need to say the words Keir Starmer is probably not a sociopath or a psychopath.

1:04:20And we might have to just go for a right reply to number 10 on this about whether he's a sociopath or a psychopath. Just deny it and then we can all move on. And then, hey, you just don't have to do any of that stuff, do you? I can't be bought off and I'll never sell my soul. But I do want to know who my audience, who do my audience hate the most, Keir Starmer or Bonnie Blue? You know what? That's a cracking head to head on my show. I'd love to do that. That's got to be the thumbnail for this interview. Keir Starmer, Bonnie Blue, who do you hate the most? Well, there you go. You put my face in that, and I reckon it will be 10 minutes after this podcast goes out that I get number 10 on the phone going, right, we're not doing any interviews with you.

1:05:00Although, to be fair, that wouldn't make a change. Can I just say that anything that I say, believe, or do holds no bearing towards whatever Patrick says or does or believes. There you go. I've got you out of trouble. I'll probably do. Yes, yeah. I mean, you do raise an interesting point there. So whether or not he's a sociopath or a psychopath or whatever, I don't know. I'm not a doctor. However, what I will say is you can tell when you're looking at a man who doesn't know what the next word out of his mouth is going to be. And why is that? Why is it that you speak very freely and easily and we can have a conversation like this?

1:05:29It's because you have conviction in your beliefs and you're prepared to say them. We all know what it looks like when a bloke has not got that. And Keir Starmer is standing there and you can tell that every single thing that's coming out of his mouth is going through a little thought process. But, right, am I saying the right thing? Does this sound all right? Who's this appealing to? Will this annoy people on the left? Will this annoy people on the right? What's the best thing for me to say? And then eventually we just get some form of guff out of the mouth of gangs. Comes out of his mouth like that.

1:05:55We're not looking at a man there, I don't think, who has a clear political ideology. And that's one of the things that really winds me up because that is a big job being Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. It's not like you're in charge of Lichtenstein or something. I fancy doing that job as badly as he is. But it's a big job and it comes with great responsibility. and he's wandered into it at a moment of existential crisis for Britain. And if you are not up for that job, you should do the polite thing and get out of the way to make way for someone else who, even if they might get certain things wrong, they might make a horlicks of it or whatever, at least feels as though they're in a position to have a conviction and an ideology.

1:06:31We need someone in Britain at the moment, unequivocally, who has got a steadfast ideology that you can paint the nation and go, right, these are my beliefs on this, this, this, this, and this, and I'm going to try and bring the nation with me on it. So half of you might already agree with me. The other half might need some convincing. But this is what I think, and I am going to... This is how I think we get out the shit, okay? Because we're in the shit at the minute. This is how I think we get out the shit. And this is my clear vision for that. These are my principles that I will not move from.

1:07:02Everyone can unite behind that. It's one of the big criticisms of Jeremy Corbyn, of course, is that the guy has a complete fruit loop, all right? And, yeah, I do think that. But he's got an ideology that you can agree or disagree with. Keir Starmer, I just don't think, has anything. And we are at a very specific moment in British history now where we need to be led. And I think we're a lion of a country being led by a complete and utter pussycat. Yeah, we have lost leadership so bad. And consequently, that filters down and it leads to a lot of lost individuals and they're trying to grip hold of something.

1:07:38And I think that's where Islam comes in and says, well, we're strong. Stick with us. But before we I'm sure we touch base on Islam. But what's your 30 ,000 foot view on reform? How do you perceive reform? You know, the fragmentation, the fallouts, the controversy that are they the answer? What's your view on them? Well, at the moment, I don't really see who else the answer is. I'm not I'm not saying that as I so I have no desire to get into politics or anything like that. I really love doing what I'm doing at the moment. and obviously there's a crossover there because we talk about political issues and I give my views on them.

1:08:09So there's that. Just look at what the opposition is. So Labour, like, it's not that, is it? I don't think the Conservatives, and I speak to a lot of Conservative shadow ministers and all of that stuff, and I think that they are pretty realistic about it. They're not in a position at the moment. They're going through that. They're recovering, aren't they, or trying to recover from wherever they are. I mean, the Lib Dems, I don't think, if the Lib Dems are the answer, I don't know what the question is. So there's that. And realistically, then you've got the other kind of groups, haven't you, like the Greens or whatever Jeremy Corbyn's, you know, the Fruit and Nut Party or Jez Balar or whatever it's going to be called, that Jeremy Corbyn party.

1:08:44So I look at it now and I'm like, okay, well, realistically, of the three main parties that there are at the moment, which is Labour, Tories and Reform, who's more likely to win the general election at the moment? All the opinion polls point towards Reform. and I mean maybe it's just time for someone else to have a go one thing that annoys me a little bit I don't know how you feel about this and how your viewers and listeners feel about it but I just worry that there's a chance that like the fed up right or centre right or whatever you want to describe people whatever that means these days or whatever you are but the fed up like majority of people in Britain that we might end up snatching defeat out the jaws of victory by like fragmenting massively, falling out with each other, getting bogged down in like quite petty squabbles.

1:09:36In the minutia. And then in the process, just looking completely unelectable and chaotic and almost like creating scandals for the left to pick at, like self-harm really. You know, if people do subscribe to the same view that I do, which is that there is, I think, one more chance to save Britain, which is going to be at the next election, um you know are they willing to put some differences aside and just do just just do what it takes to get something over the line um because i think i think if we have another four or five years of of of the current trajectory of the labour government i don't think everyone in by the way is as bad as keir starmer and i think it would be really really really unfair on on on some people that i know in labour to say that because it's just not true um but i think if we out another four or five years of a kiss on the government on top of this i i don't know if we come back from that fx's american horror story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment with the iconic horrors you love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan favorite roles light your candles draw your pentagrams and prepare for a supreme surprise is FX's American Horror Story 13, now streaming on Hulu.

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1:11:37It's a really difficult one, this, because I am a massive monarchist. I am, and I know that that might divide people. I just am. I mean, I, well, like all of us, didn't we? We were our whole lives with the queen. and I just think, oh, I mean, I could actually cry now. It's ridiculous. This is how pathetic it is. Well, the Queen was great. That was a wild day in the GB News office, that. When the Queen died. Yeah. I walked in and I was due on air. I was doing a show 3 till 6pm at the time and I got in about midday and I had my hand on the door of the GB News green room studio. My phone went off and it was an MP I won't name.

1:12:11He said, the Queen's dead. I was like, what? And then I went in at the office and it just started going around and everyone was like, what do we do? What do we do? And then we were told initially they were going to announce it at three. And I was like, shit, I'm going to have to announce the Queen's death. Well. Yeah. I don't even have a black suit. I sent someone to M &S down the road to go and get me a black suit and a black tie and all that. Luckily, in the end, we got Alistair Stewart in it. And that was the right call because that guy, you know, he's gravitas central, that guy. He knows it's much better than me.

1:12:44I don't know what I would have done. I don't know what I would have done it if I could have done it, actually. So that was nice. Anyway, sorry, to get back to King Charles. So we've had that, right? That's all I've known, that wonderful woman that was there. I've cut King Charles quite a bit of slack because I think he's getting terrible advice. I think that some of the people around him are completely detached from the reality and the mood on the ground in Britain. I think they've made some really bad calls. I don't think they should have done things like have that iftar at Windsor Castle. I don't think that he should have made a big song and dance about like packing Ramadan dates for NHS staff.

1:13:15I don't think he should have, you know, like, he seems to reference Islam a huge amount, a huge amount, more than I think he references Christianity. It makes me wonder why he's doing that. I hope he hasn't gone down the route that I think sometimes quite a lot of high status posh people do, which is that they start to believe that maybe they are slightly more intellectual than they actually are and that they have this kind of very big globalist lofty worldview about things and you know all that stuff and whereas actually if we are in Britain at the moment being led terribly by the elected government that we we look for leadership in other ways and there are ways of the king doing that that I think you know could really help to unite the and I don't like continually hearing from our monarch that diversity is our greatest strength.

1:14:16I don't know when the last time he drove down the Edware Road was, but I'm not convinced that's a strength. And I just worry about him because there's a bigger picture for me here. You know, monarchs come and go. That's a horrible thing to say, but that's the definition of it, isn't it? They come and go. I think I've got really quite high hopes for William and Catherine. I don't know if people share that view. I do have quite high hopes for that. I just feel like we're at such a chaotic moment in British history at the moment that I just feel like if the king doesn't do a little bit more to appeal to his base, I worry that it's going to really diminish the role of the monarchy in British society.

1:14:58And we seem to be on this trajectory at the moment of wanting to tear down everything that's historic and good and think about Britain. And I think I worry that if he doesn't get it right, that there will be a lot of negativity as a result of that. But at the moment, my attitude to it is I think he's getting bad advice. It's not that I think that the king is inherently, you know, some bad guy or anything like that. But but yeah, I just worry about I do worry about it. I just think I just think someone needs to get all of him maybe and just say, you know, could you just do something like overtly patriotic and British?

1:15:31I just think King Charles is a bit of a buffoon. And it kind of breaks my heart because right now I think we need someone that sort of resembles more of a warrior. I am your king. He just doesn't strike me as that kind of guy at all. But he is what he is. He's doing what he's doing. And let's hope that William does the magic when it's his turn and sooner rather than later. But you mentioned that he promotes Islam a lot, the king. more so than Christianity, for example. Politics. I know that you never want to shift into politics at the moment. I think maybe down the line you might change your mind.

1:16:09I don't know about it, mate. I'm not sure I've got the temperament for it. You'd be very, very good. And I think you're always going to have the British public behind you. I think you'd have to really put your foot in it somewhere for the British public to ever lose support on you. Yeah, we'll never say never, mate. Wherever I go, you're mentioned. and when I mentioned that you were coming on the show, the excitement from people that I told. Well, I haven't let people doubt. I hope they've not been like, oh, I've had a close look at this guy now and I hate him. No, no, they won't. Well, you've been very fair and I've sort of, a couple of times I've tried to lead you astray a little bit.

1:16:42I've slipped some F's in there and I know that you're mainstream and I've commonly been looking at you thinking, blimey, I tried to get you to endorse Bonnie Blue and you wouldn't have a bar of it. Well, exactly, yeah. No, that was it. But you know what? One thing, this could be famous last words this night, I'm amazed I've never sworn on air because actually I do swear a lot. And I thought maybe the odd time it'd slip out, but it's such wood. Never slip, because I'm quite loose with my tongue. Yeah. But I can curb it around children. Yeah, I can't. It's only when I'm doing stuff like this or on air.

1:17:11I get told off. My mates who've got kids are like, you've just taught my kid a swear word. It's like, all right. Yeah, that's the only time I can curb it. I mean, obviously, I'm relatively self-aware, so I hope that none of my friends are saying, no there was that time when you said that in front of my son but hopefully i don't do that has islam got a place in british politics in your humble opinion british politics i don't think we should ever ever ever have a specifically religious party in british politics i just don't think we should do that a story that doesn't just flew under the radar actually was that after shortly after the October the 7th massacre by Hamas, there was an attempt to register a party here in Britain.

1:17:54I think it was called the Islam Party or the Party of Islam. So that was basically it. And it was rejected by the Electoral Commission. But there have been numerous attempts to do it. I think that what we might see is that what we're getting at the moment is with this new party, with Jeremy Corbyn, whatever it's going to be called, your party or whatever. That seems to be the main issue for them appears to be Gaza, which I think will attract, yeah, a lot of kind of like, you know, the kind of like 60-year-old lovey lefties that said they supported Palestine actually at the weekend and got lifted by police.

1:18:36But also, obviously, huge, huge, huge numbers of the Muslim community that are here in Britain. And what my concern with that is, is that Jeremy Corbyn's not getting any younger and at some point he's going to retire probably from politics or political life and then there'll be a party there that has been allowed to exist by the Electoral Commission because it is not a religious-based party. It's an all-political party with a manifesto that has basically captured the majority of the Muslim population in Britain and that once Jeremy Corbyn goes, that that party could then become a party that is, if not like overtly the party of Islam, but one that is really dominated by Muslims in Britain and by what some of their attitudes might be towards various different things.

1:19:23I mean, I'm not going to say Sharia law, obviously, even though we are the Western capital for Sharia courts, by the way. We have more Sharia courts in Britain than any other Western nation, which is nuts. But just as more of a, what's the word, more of a conservative fundamentalist Islamic approach in politics. I can see a situation happening really quite easily where once Jeremy Corbyn shuffles off, that party could very easily become that. And so I actually think that's quite logical that would happen. So I would have a concern about that. And I've got a concern about it on a few different grounds.

1:19:57Firstly, I think that it would have a huge, huge shift in Britain's foreign policy. That's going to be a big problem. I mean, Israel are our natural allies in that region of the world. And I would be very concerned that we might start having a foreign policy shift based around that. So that would be a concern. The other aspects of it is just cultural, aren't they? You know, attitudes towards women, attitudes towards younger members of society. I do, yeah, I do have concerns, but I do have concerns about that. I think the same concerns that we've already spoken about, really, and I think many people have.

1:20:27And I think we're heading towards a very risky situation politically. Once you let any religious group in this context, Islam really become its own specific political force in Britain. I think that's a recipe for there to be quite a big problem with society, I think. I'm going to box this interview off now and stay with me while I land this. there's I've thoroughly enjoyed this by the way there's so much more I want to ask you and talk to you about but I feel like my audience deserve a part two I think you deserve a part two and I certainly deserve a part two because I've had a lovely time and I think any different kind of conversations we have now will just lead completely to something new and it'll give Give us something to look forward to.

1:21:25Maybe in six months' time we can review what's happened since. Where do we go? Maybe the start of next year. So I'm going to cap this off now, and I'm pretty sure people know where to find you. GBNews, X account, Instagram. We'll get all your social media links in the description. Because in case you don't follow Patrick on Instagram, for example, I mean, he adds value every single platform he is, and I will put all his links in the description. Is there any other sites that I don't know about that you'd want to guide my reads to? Oh, no, although actually... Substack? No, I'm not on Substack.

1:21:57Although what is quite funny is we were doing a social media sweep or an internet sweep for some security reason recently, and it turns out that someone's put pictures of my feet on a porn website. So that's quite funny. I didn't realise that's happened. I'm big in the foot fetish community, apparently. So there you go. I wouldn't advise people to go and search for that. But, you know, that was, yeah, someone's been putting pictures of my feet online. Now polish on your toes or not? No, no, no, the unvarnished. And also what's quite... The unvarnished toe? Yeah, but also what's quite annoying is that What's quite annoying is because they've basically dug through some old holiday snaps and done this.

1:22:25And you can actually tell the exact point between before I went to rehab and after I went to rehab. Because it's like topless videos of me with like a Peter Colada by a beach with my fucking gut out, right? And then like some of the other ones, I'm looking a bit more trim. So there you go. But my feet have been rated four out of five stars on WikiFeet. So cheers, lads. Oh, congratulations. Well, I tip my hat to you. You're a man of many talents. Thank you, mate. And you've got nice ladies. Well, sorry, actually. We don't discriminate, mate. And we're not going to discriminate. So this is going to be my final question.

1:22:54Right, okay. So Nicola Sturgeon, I always assumed that she was a lesbian. It's recently come out that she's bisexual. So the question is, A, does that surprise you? And B, do you now think you stand a chance? Oh, God, God. I like it. I've got some really, really quite conflicting views about this because she pushed through one of the most hardcore, radical, woke, pro-trans-slash-LGBT agendas that the Western world has ever seen, certainly that Britain's ever seen. And we are now being told, essentially, I think, that not that she was necessarily living a lie publicly, but she wasn't entirely honest about where she was on that spectrum.

1:23:50And like, why not? Because I don't think it would have mattered to people. You know, she's already pushing all this stuff. If anything, it would have made more sense. If anything, it would have made a lot more sense. If she'd have come out and gone, you know what? Gosh, as a little girl growing up in Scotland, I didn't feel as though I could have discussed my sexuality publicly. I didn't maybe realise it about myself because I was living in an environment where we couldn't recognise this. and I found that awful and actually it gave me depression and it was shocking and I feel as though I've been trapped in this, you know, in this thing for a while.

1:24:21I think people might have gone, all right, still don't agree that you wanted to put blokes in movies in prisons but, all right, I kind of see where you're coming from a bit maybe here. She didn't do any of that stuff. She left politics. I think, I think I'm right in saying got divorced quite quickly, I think. Anyway, check that. Has now come out as non-binary, so essentially bisexual and got a new tattoo and is talking about how she never had an adolescence and she's going to move down to London. What's a tattoo? An anchor on a forearm? Some kind of arrow, like, I don't know anyway, but yeah, and now wants to move to London, but she said, watch out Soho, right?

1:24:59And like, I don't know, I just find all of this a little bit odd because it's not like, it's not like it's a shock to people, but it's interesting just hearing it. And I just thought there was something very, very odd about that. Like, why not, why not be more as, trying to, trying to really force an agenda on, on, on Scotland there and really be quite, um, demonising of people that don't agree with things like having male rapists in women's prisons. Um, and then, and then the whole time it turns out that, that maybe there was something more personal at play there. And that tells me that it's, it's a clear cut case of you can't trust that person, period.

1:25:34Certainly not in politics. I'm very lucky, I've never had to wrestle with my sexuality, you know, I've just, been straight. Even today? Either way, even today, especially today, actually. But yeah. But like, but whatever it is. So I've never, so I don't know what it's like maybe to like, you know, start having thoughts when you get to a certain age and you're questioning it and all that, fine. However, if she's been in the most, the most public job you can possibly have, leading a country or been in amongst it for decades and not being honest about something that's really fundamental about who you are as a person, I think that's a little bit nuts I don't know I mean I don't want to like get into a situation where I'm saying like she should have outed herself earlier because it's a very sensitive topic but I do find it speaks to the psychology or maybe the mindset of a particular individual if they are capable and willing of hiding something that is that fundamental to their existence who you look at in the street is fundamental to who you are your sexuality is fundamental to who you are But if you're able to mask that from the public or not say that to the public for a very, very long time, I think that says a lot about maybe who you are as a person.

1:26:48Yeah, I agree. And on that note, this is the cliffhanger. And if I could put the EastEnders in, I would do that. Please do go and follow and support Patrick's work. I am a personal fan of his. I hope you enjoyed this conversation. like and subscribe to the channel because the bigger the audience the bigger the guests the better the conversations and if you'd like to see a part two with Patrick do put that in the comments I would like a part two and I'd like a part three I'd like to have the exclusive on your life story oh no I don't know if anyone wants that mate you'll be surprised I don't think you realise just how popular you are so I've planted those seeds with the audience and with you anything you want to ask me?

1:27:30oh god well I'd just like to thank you actually for having me on I would like to thank your viewers and listeners Did you enjoy it? I hope I haven't bored the arse off people. It's nice to be on the other side of it, right? It's nice to have people, yeah, like people asking me questions, I suppose. I've just thoroughly enjoyed it, mate. Yeah, thank you. First of all, the question will be, when will you have me back? Whenever you want. Yeah, and I look forward to it. But until then, I'll be cheering your corner. Look forward to the next time. Let's go and have some lunch and good health. Legend.

1:28:01Take care, mate. Thank you for coming on. Thank you, mate. Cheers, brother.

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