Bonnie Blue GRILLED Over Degeneracy: Full UNCENSORED Interview

7 Aug 2025 · 58 min · 37 chapters

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In short

Liam Tuffs interviews adult performer Bonnie Blue about her boundary-pushing sex-work content, backlash, and her Channel 4 documentary, including her “Thousand Men” claim and her views on consent, rape culture accusations, safety, and morality.

Guest backgrounds

Bonnie Blue is a UK sex worker/online content creator known for explicit stunts and large-scale gangbang events. Liam Tuffs is the interviewer/podcast host and says he previously interviewed her and faced backlash for platforming her.

Key claims

Bonnie Blue denies rumors about sleeping with “migrant men” and says her content is consensual and “black and white.” She says she would knowingly have sex with a man she labels a “rapist” if she is consenting, arguing it’s preferable to him harming someone else. She claims she slept with 1,000+ men in 24 hours via rotation in a multi-floor house, with “hundreds” present and video evidence. She says she gets death threats and bans, uses security when out, and says she’s not afraid of being murdered. She also discusses her divorce, IVF/infertility rumors, and OnlyFans being a “permanent ban” for alleged “dangerous activity.”

Notable examples

her “Thousand Men” logistics (spiral staircase, basement holding area, rotation, condoms), her “pregnancy”/gangbang comments, her testicular-cancer-check event with “two official doctors,” and her dispute with OnlyFans. She also compares herself to Lily Phillips, saying she’s not in competition and that she dislikes Phillips.

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Controversial Perspectives

0:56 to 1:57

Discussion on societal perceptions and personal boundaries.

“You do realise you're the one in the wrong?”

Backlash and Public Perception

2:24 to 3:21

Liam and Bonnie discuss the backlash Bonnie faced after her last appearance.

“The backlash I got for having you on the show last time was beyond the pale.”

Migrant Men and Boundaries

3:21 to 4:52

Bonnie addresses rumors and discusses her boundaries regarding intimate relationships.

“There was an article that said that you said that one of your next stunts was going to be sleeping with migrant men as soon as they got to the shore.”

Promoting Consent and Safety

4:52 to 6:05

Bonnie explains her views on consent and sexual education.

“what have you been blamed for rape culture promoting rape okay rape is non-consensual The content I make is consensual.”

Thousand Men Marathon Logistics

6:05 to 8:13

Discussion about the logistics of Bonnie's controversial event.

“Would you not think to yourself, you're a scumbag, you need to be in jail, not inside me?”

Value and Purpose of Actions

8:13 to 9:08

Exploration of the purpose behind Bonnie's actions and societal value.

“to get them hard myself other times I had a helping hand.”

Reactions to the Marathon

9:08 to 10:36

Liam and Bonnie discuss public reactions and their implications.

“I decided one day it's not actually good for my equilibrium and it stopped and I'm pretty stubborn.”

Safety Concerns in the Industry

10:36 to 12:00

Liam raises concerns about Bonnie's safety in her line of work.

“Was there any of them that repulsed you because there was all shapes and sizes?”

Living with Risks

12:00 to 14:00

Bonnie shares her thoughts on managing risks and personal safety.

“Yeah, I'm going to move it slightly dark.”

The Perception of Danger

14:00 to 15:10

Explore the dangers faced by those in the spotlight and the mindset of navigating them.

“I feel one day somebody could target you and take your life.”
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Living Life Fearlessly

15:10 to 17:00

Discuss the philosophy of living without fear and embracing life experiences.

“But no, I have never been concerned as such for my safety or being murdered.”

The Complexity of Relationships

17:00 to 18:50

Dive into the challenges of dating and finding love with a controversial past.

“I'm not saying, oh, my mission in life is to do 10 ,000 or my mission in life is to do X, Y, and Z, I just want to stay happy.”

Defining Personal Happiness

18:50 to 21:00

Understand the speaker's view on happiness and the importance of simplicity.

“This is coming from a good place as well.”

Navigating Competition in the Industry

21:00 to 22:30

Examine the dynamics of competition among sex workers and personal branding.

“but this will always be my, I don't know, my enjoyment.”

Challenging Conversations

22:30 to 24:20

Discuss the importance of open dialogue around controversial topics.

“So fuck it, I'm going to go with it because stop messing people about.”

Motherhood and Career Choices

24:20 to 26:40

Explore the speaker's views on motherhood, career, and personal sacrifices.

“And it's not ever nice to see someone traumatised.”

The Reality of Pregnancy and Work

26:40 to 28:01

Discuss the implications and thoughts around pregnancy in the context of work.

“Your own child not liking you for doing that?”

Desire for Motherhood and Parenthood Challenges

28:01 to 29:16

Bonnie shares her thoughts on motherhood and her struggles with fertility.

“And then that tomorrow suddenly is like five, ten years down the line.”

Living Authentically Despite Judgment

29:17 to 30:22

Bonnie discusses the importance of living for oneself and not conforming to societal expectations.

“And I'm not saying people should, but...”

Boundaries and Pushing Limits

30:23 to 31:34

The conversation shifts to Bonnie's limits on boundary pushing and her upcoming event.

“just so someone says something positive about you because you will get old and regret living by someone's judgment and not doing what you want to do in life.”

Event Planning and Community Health

31:35 to 33:19

Bonnie details her event focused on testicular cancer awareness and prevention.

“It's just like, fucking, what are you girls doing?”

Reflections on Past Relationships

33:20 to 36:25

Bonnie reflects on her past marriage and the emotional complexities of divorce.

“you come back in and I bent over and all the holes are being used Do you respect women on the whole?”

Future of Love and Friendship

36:26 to 37:40

Bonnie discusses the possibility of finding love again and maintaining friendships post-divorce.

“And I've realised you didn't always get this fairytale ending.”

Documentary Experience and Challenges

37:41 to 38:57

Bonnie shares her experience filming a documentary and the challenges faced.

“I mean, I can't believe they went there.”

OnlyFans Ban and Its Impact

39:51 to 42:00

Bonnie discusses her experience with being banned from OnlyFans and its consequences.

“I did start watching it in preparation for today.”

Bonnie's Experience with OnlyFans Ban

42:00 to 43:10

Bonnie discusses her reaction to being banned from OnlyFans and the implications on her work.

“And it was seriously concerning that they can get me confused with someone else when I platform that deal with such sensitive content.”

Men and Their Motivations: A Deep Dive

43:10 to 45:50

The conversation explores Bonnie's perceptions of the men who seek her services and their personal motivations.

“You see, for me, I made no bones about it.”

Judgment and Acceptance in Adult Work

45:50 to 46:30

Bonnie shares her views on judgment in her profession and emphasizes the importance of acceptance among her clients.

“I don't want anyone walking away from this feeling insecure, feeling like I was laughed at.”

Personal Reflections on Fame

46:30 to 47:10

Bonnie reflects on her unexpected fame and how it affects her daily life and relationships.

From Performance to Authenticity in Adult Content

47:10 to 48:20

Bonnie discusses her journey from performing for the camera to embracing her sexuality authentically.

“In my family, I walked around the park recently and we got stopped every, literally every five minutes if that.”

Dealing with Hate and Public Criticism

48:20 to 50:30

Bonnie talks about her experiences with hate online and her perspective on public criticism.

“Yeah, like some of my sex tape now, I watch my face as I come and I think, God, I should have faked that one.”

Understanding the Landscape of Adult Work

50:30 to 53:10

Bonnie shares her insights on the adult industry and her unique position within it.

“When someone wants to murder you, you could reply, what I do is barely legal, what you've just threatened to do is really illegal.”

Future Aspirations Beyond Adult Work

53:10 to 54:20

Bonnie discusses her potential future plans beyond adult work and her career aspirations.

“You should never expect anything in life.”

Celebrity Crushes and Personal Preferences

54:20 to 56:04

The conversation shifts to Bonnie's personal preferences regarding celebrity crushes and attraction.

“For me, I'm always going to have an orgasm.”

Personality Over Looks

56:04 to 57:15

Explore how personality traits can be more attractive than physical appearance.

“If you could only sleep with one of these two people.”

Grilling the Guest

57:15 to 59:28

A candid discussion where the host questions the guest about their life choices and public persona.

“On a whole, I mean, it's hard to say you're misunderstood because you're getting rowed by thousands of men on camera.”

Final Thoughts on Influence

59:28 to 59:41

The guest provides a closing message that reflects on their impact on society.

“But what's your final message to the masses?”
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0:26This podcast features Liam Tuffs and Bonnie Blue. Star Wars The Mandalorian and Grogu is now streaming on Disney+. What are you waiting for? Hop on. The must-see galactic adventure comes home on Disney+. This is the way. Our only chance is to work together. I like this kid. Always wear your seatbelt. Star Wars The Mandalorian and Grogu. Now streaming on Disney+. Read PG-13. I disagree with what you do. You do realise you're the one in the wrong? You are dead behind the eyes. Everyone says this. Do you think I am? Yeah. Oh, OK. There's definitely a personality disorder. You're possibly a sociopath.

1:12I mean, not that you're asking for me to critique the whole scene, but I found it utterly repulsive. It made me feel physically sick, and I wanted to fucking smash them blokes in the mouth, some of them. Does that not concern you, the fact that your child would look back and think, you fucking animal, what were you doing? Would you knowingly sleep with a rapist? What message do you think you're sending out to young girls? Out of those thousand men, did any of them stink? What's your date of birth? Do you respect yourself? Why don't you like Lily Phillips? Do you ever cry? And I was like, get out.

1:41Insinently got security to make him leave. And you don't think these motherfuckers are the saddest individuals you've ever met? What do you think of me?

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2:37I got bullied. I got attacked from all angles. I had my character assassinated. I was bullied. So I thought, I can't wait to fucking do it again. I know. I mean, I'm still wiping off your backlash that you left on my face. I see what you've done there, Bonnie. Straight in with the innuendos. Now, if you remember rightly, the last time I interviewed you, I said, I would love to see you in a year's time to see what's happened between now and then. Because I thought you were going to slow down. I honestly thought, okay, you've not been in the industry for long. You're going to put the brakes on. You're pushing the boundaries.

3:11It's totally fucking outrageous. You're sleeping with father and sons. a few things that made the rest of my hair fall out. And you've done completely the polar opposite. Yeah. So we'll get straight in to the nuts and bolts of it. There was an article that said that you said that one of your next stunts was going to be sleeping with migrant men as soon as they got to the shore. Is there any truth in that? No, I've never said that. Would you do that? No, not really my cup of tea. You need to have a sort of government level ID for me to be sleeping with you. And I don't think they've sort of got that.

3:49So they're not going to pass the consent form. Okay, so you have got boundaries. Yeah, some boundaries. Okay. Are you a force for good or a force for bad for the young women of Britain? Either or really. They're not really my problem or my responsibility. But as a whole, I do good. And why is that? Because I offer up my body. I say hey guys come and do what you want to me as opposed to them doing something to somebody else I educate a lot of young men and old men that aren't educating the bedroom on how to perform hair pulling choking how to pleasure a woman and that all leads to them being safer in the bedroom and learning how to better pleasure somebody so I'd say that's nothing but good.

4:31Is there anything that you do that you could see that could be bad or you could certainly see it from an outsider's point of view because you're pretty much desensitized to everything now in there for sure um no because i've been blamed recently for terrible things and i'm not responsible for it what have you been blamed for rape culture promoting rape okay rape is non-consensual The content I make is consensual. And it couldn't be more black and white than that. Yet, unfortunately, people pretend there's a grey area in that. And there really isn't. I mean, do you think I promote it? No, I've not noticed that you've been promoting rape culture.

5:13I mean, I don't follow you day in, day out, because I probably wouldn't do my relationship any good. But what I did do is, in fact, let me go, let me ask you a question. Now, you said the word rapist. I know that you push the boundaries beyond the point of comprehension to a lot of people, me included. Yeah. Would you knowingly sleep with a rapist? Yes. I would. Fuck's sake. Why fuck's sake? Well, no, you tell me why you would sleep with a rapist first. Because I'm offering out my body. I'm consenting to it. So to me, obviously once you're a rapist, you're always a rapist. It's disgusting. but I'd prefer them to come and have consensual sex with me to doing that to someone else who hasn't consented, to someone they're going to hurt and traumatise and never-ending list of issues.

6:03I would prefer them to come and use my body as opposed to somebody else's. What about on the moral spectrum? Would you not think to yourself, you're a scumbag, you need to be in jail, not inside me? Of course, but I've not got the handcuffs. It's not my responsibility to put them away. You know, if I slept with a rapist, unless it was me, the one that was getting raped, then yes, I've sort of got responsibility to put them away. But if I'm not the one they raped and I'm not the police and I'm not the court, then how can I be responsible to put them away? No, you're not responsible. But put it this way, I wouldn't know at least sleep with a rapist.

6:41Yeah. Well, we're different. This is true. You're a thousand men marathon, we'll call it. Yes. A lot of people have called bullshit on that. You can see why. Because logistically, well, logistically, how does that work? It was hard work. Logistically, it was really, really difficult. But it was like every guy, every 30 to 40 seconds, I started off doing gangbangs. So the numbers could become, I guess, they could increase very quickly. And I always had, God, 30, 40, 50 people plus in the room I was in at all times. so they was hard and ready to go. And then on the stairs, there was three floors and it was a spiral staircase.

7:22And at all moments of time, that staircase was full. And there was a basement. It's like a holding area, which everyone was always in. So there was always hundreds and hundreds of people in the house I was having sex in. So logistically, it was much easier that way because I was never thinking, I was never waiting around, waiting for the next person. It was a consistent rotation. So when you say they walk into the room hard, ready to go, who's fluffing them up behind the scenes so I had a beautiful girl Callie who sort of she only sort of did fluffing for about an hour throughout the whole day because she had a jaw rate but yeah I had somebody helping me get them hard and ready like sometimes I was able to because I only needed obviously one guy penetrating me at once for it to count and they were switching and then I'd be able to get them hard through my mouth or my hands and then once it was hard they were able to put the condom on and then go inside of me so sometimes I was able to get them hard myself other times I had a helping hand.

8:16Was the whole thing recorded as evidence? Yes. So there's no denying it, you 100 % slept with over a thousand men in 24 hours. 100%. Do you think that added any value to society? Well, one, you don't have to do something to add value. I couldn't really, I'm not responsible for adding value. But did it do anything wrong? No. So yeah, it did add value. What was the purpose of it then, not to add value? To pleasure, to have fun, celebrate with my subscribers and fans and give back to them. Like sometimes people look too much into things. That's why we're here. Yeah. But it's like, are you this or are you that?

8:51Did you do it for this reason or another reason? And sometimes the answer is I just did it because I wanted to. I did it because it was fun and it was enjoyable and it was a good day. And it really is as simple as that. You can see why people will be flabbergasted and also equally as intrigued because this is something I've never seen in my lifetime. Yeah. I mean, a documentary came out yesterday and some of the backlash has been, oh my god it's true she actually did this because I think obviously everything I've explained about the day people haven't seen much of that content so now they're seeing the videos and they're seeing it from channel four which isn't edited and I don't have obviously edit rights and they're like fuck she really she really did have a busy 24 hours well the first time we sat down together I yeah I'd never seen any of your your content I stopped watching that stuff years ago uh because I was watching too much of it.

9:40I decided one day it's not actually good for my equilibrium and it stopped and I'm pretty stubborn. However, since now and then, when your videos leaked from your Thousand Men marathon, I must have been sent maybe a hundred different clips of you, the same clip over and over, but from a hundred different people onto my WhatsApp. So it was very hard to avoid. So I've now seen you in your element. And I mean, not that you're asking for me to critique the whole scene, but I found it utterly repulsive. And I thought... That's what I went to at night. This is what I want to ask you. It made me feel physically sick and I wanted to fucking smash them blokes in the mouth, some of them.

10:21That's horrible. Well, I don't know. It'd be interesting to see what people think in the comments. Yeah. So there's a whole few questions wrapped up in here. Yeah. To me, it just looked like a mass room full of disrespect. I know that you consent and that you're... But I just think, do these men respect themselves? Do you respect the men? Was there any of them that repulsed you because there was all shapes and sizes? Some of them were fucking gross. Not gross. Everyone's got different shapes and sizes. And I've said before, I used to hate fat people. I was like, you know what? They're lazy. They're disgusting, whatever else.

10:48And then I started to meet fat people and certain subscribers that was larger. And they would say, you know what? I've got children and work's really manic. I don't have time to go to the gym anymore. And I started to realize a body shape doesn't reflect who somebody is. and I no longer feel repulsive, someone's skinny or fat or small dick, big dick. Like, I'm really... What about spotty or if they stink? You can't help spots. God, I still get spots and my skin's sometimes patchy and it's not a thing she can help. But as long as you're clean, then, I mean, everyone can get a bar of soap and a shower.

11:21Like, as long as you're clean and you smell good, then that's all I'm asking for. Out of those thousand men, did any of them stink? I mean, the room heavily smelt of cum, so... What about body odour? No, there was no, honestly. Bad breath? Genuinely. Stinky feet? No, I mean, I did suck a few toes, but no, like, because, I mean, everyone's got different fetches, but when someone asked for a tip one, and I was thinking, we're not going to get far with that one. But everyone is so different, and they come into me knowing they're going to have sex. So they cover themselves in deodorant and aftershave, and they're excited, so they've had a shower.

11:57It's not like an unexpected one-night stand. They know it's coming. Yeah, I'm going to move it slightly dark. I'm going to give you a concern of mine. I don't mind BBC. I know you don't. Now that I've seen you in action, I know that you're not just all talk. Like you, you go all the way and what you say, I believe to be true. But I just, because I know a lot of people have called bullshit on it logistically. I get it though as well. Like why it would be hard to believe. Or like sometimes, you know, like you said, you met me last time and you hadn't sort of seen it. So you're thinking, okay, how much is she saying this for clicks?

12:27How much is this for views is supposed to true. but everything I've said in terms of content and the stuff I make, people are always more amazed afterwards because it makes you intrigued and you go and look for it and then you're like, oh my God, she's serious or whether that makes you more disgusted than me because you're like, she really does get railed. I fear one day someone's going to murder you. Do you think? I think you're a contender. Have you ever considered that? It's definitely crossed my mind. However, the hate I get is from women that are on benefits, stuck on their sofa doing fuck all with their life.

13:02Are they going to get up and murder me? No. They can barely afford the beans on the plate that loan a good knife. I'll tell you where I'm coming from. Yeah. The industry you're in will attract lunatics. Now, any one of those thousand men that participated in that, for me, this is just me. And you know I'm old school. We've spoke before. I think that is a muggy thing to do. And when you think out of those thousand people, at least 300 of them are going to have a mental health issue. The stats don't lie. So you're putting yourself in a room full of people that you don't know which one is the loose cannon and you will get people obsessed over you.

13:41They're going to fall in love with you. They're going to watch you and they're going to think that there's going to be some people that think you're theirs because they watch you on the screen. And the world is getting madder and madder and you get these serial killers that have got women issues and they hated their mum and they go on a prostitute killing spree. I just think the way you're putting yourself out there, I feel one day somebody could target you and take your life. I think if we didn't live in such a dangerous society, I'd agree with you. But it's honestly more dangerous if I were just to walk down the street nowadays and have a nice watch on or have a bit of money.

14:13So me putting myself out there doesn't put me at any more risk than the average girl. You know, walking home after a night out, if you're a girl, or if you walk in a nice area and you've got a nice watch on, like, it is dangerous regardless. And I just think, sure, that'd be a bit of a headache to murder. I've got too many cameras on me. Yeah, but if someone's going to take someone's life, they don't really care about the consequences. And it weren't so much sort of agreeing with me. Yeah. Because I'm not here to argue with you at all. But I'm just, I'm curious as to how you feel about things and how you perceive the world, because you live a very different life to other people.

14:44So it's more like getting in your head thinking, do you ever sit there and think, I'm kind of playing with fire here? No, I do. I always go out and I've got with security, or I've got someone from my team with me. So obviously, yes, it crosses my mind. I know it's not overly safe for me just to be out and about by myself, but it's also just to help. Like when I'm out, I'm really lucky that people come up, say hi, and get photos and so on. So it's more just to always protect myself and be overly careful. But no, I have never been concerned as such for my safety or being murdered. You're quite fearless on the whole, aren't you?

15:19Nothing phases you. You could get hit by a bus tomorrow. Like, what is the point in sitting and worrying? Like, so much bad things can happen. And you could sort of preempt a lot of things. But why live life like that? Why live life thinking, oh, what if this happens? What if that happens? See, what I've seen in you, there'll be a lot of people that haven't seen in you, because this is now the second time we've sat opposite each other for a length of time. I know that you're a nice person. Yeah. We spoke in the green room. You've come with two male colleagues today. They speak well about you. So I know the core of you is nice.

15:50But the work you do, I think, for me, is ugly. Yeah, everyone's got their opinion on sex. I'm not judging you as a person, but the work concerns me because I think it's very dangerous for a lot of reasons. But because I know that there's, you know, you're not just this rampant, shocking sex machine that's on a mission to plough through the rest of the world. You kind of are. But what about a family one day? What would your ideal man be? And also, do you ever think to yourself, is my ideal going to want someone like me that's had my past? Yeah, obviously, I know dating is going to be difficult for me and I've got a past and there's no hiding that.

16:31The ideal guy would be someone that's outdoorsy. They're not glued to their phone and really bothered about social media. They've got to have fun. I don't want someone that's like, hey, let's go for a fancy meal tonight. I prefer someone to say, let's just go and do something different. Let's go and be active. And the main part in that, they're going to have to accept my job. So if you found love, would you still continue with the Bonnie Blue mission? Yeah. And what is your mission? It isn't like a set mission, I'd say. I just want to stay happy. And that's the biggest thing. I'm not saying, oh, my mission in life is to do 10 ,000 or my mission in life is to do X, Y, and Z, I just want to stay happy.

17:13And it's as simple as that. And I think when you don't overcomplicate things, that's when you're truly happy because you're not chasing something. Yes, at the moment I'll plan events and I have things in the near future, but long-term, I haven't got a clue what's going to happen. As long as I'm happy today, next week, and next month, the rest will work itself out. And if at any point I'm unhappy, I'll stop. And I think you mentioned, obviously you found my work, you know, disgusting, doing whatever and that's completely okay more people are actually disgusted in me in the fact I'm okay and they want me to be traumatized and they want me to be upset and the fact I'm not is what shocks people the most people are actually coming to terms with sex workers a lot more and a lot more sex workers are respected but because I come across normal well somewhat normal then I talk about what I do and the way I talk about it that's when people are really sort of disgusted in me.

18:05Well, you are dead behind the eyes. Everyone says this. Do you think I am? Yeah. Oh, OK. I mean, when you're talking about sleeping with a thousand men, it's as if you're an air hostess telling somebody where the emergency exit is. Chicken or beef. Yeah. So a lot of people, I think, think you're possibly a sociopath or there's definitely a personality disorder in there somewhere. I mean, in my opinion, I've got nice eyes. I'm not saying they're not nice, but I'm just saying there's like a zero fucks. I'm looking right through you, give me your best shot, I'm not fazed, kind of. I think, even though I know this is going to be a positive interview, I always, you probably notice a slight difference to my composure to when I'm sat out there, to when I'm in here.

18:44Like, I always have to defend myself to a certain degree. And I don't want to attack you either. No, no, no, I know you're not. I know this is like a... This is coming from a good place as well. For sure. Because I don't want you dead one day, and I also don't want young girls following in your footsteps with the greatest respect. See, I'm more than happy for girls to follow in my footsteps as long as they understand, hey, look, I get death threats. Hey, I get banned from places without even doing anything wrong. Like, I think it's more than okay for people to follow my footsteps as long as they're strong enough.

19:11Like, a lot of people, both mentally and physically, aren't strong enough when they do it because they say I live a beautiful life and I earn a lot of money. And they think, okay, I'll do that. It's not as easy as that. Like, mentally and physically, I'm very strong. And that's why I'm okay and I'm able to do things. But anyone that was to copy me, go for it. But mentally and physically, you need to be ready for what's to come. I think people will struggle. And I'm going to talk about someone copying you after we go back to, is there any concerns or fears or worries, any trepidation your end where you think to yourself, one day I'm going to find a man that I really want and he's not going to want me because of what I'm doing.

19:50And how important is love to you? And how important would that nest be for you? I generally don't think I'd ever be in that situation because for me to love them and for them to love me, you've clearly been speaking for a long time. You've got to know each other. You've been dating for X amount of time. So they would have already known what I've done. They would already know my history and what I do for work. So I'm never going to get to that stage where I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm in love with this person, but now he doesn't want me to do this job. So I'm never going to get to that point where I'm like, do I choose love or the job?

20:21Because they come together and they'll be always together. I admire your optimism, Bonnie. Lily Phillips. Maybe like five years from now we can see if I'm still single. Well, I'd like you to come back every year until you stop this. Yeah, I would like that. Because I think you could be anything you want to be because you're very determined and I've never seen focus like it. Yeah. Maybe you could get into acting or... I just think there's something more you could be doing than this. I'd like to do more. Like I'm very much into fashion and there's a few other interests and hobbies. But at the moment, this is, I guess, my main hobby.

20:56So this takes up all my time. But I think gradually over the years, you know, I may do additional things, but this will always be my, I don't know, my enjoyment. Yeah. So Lily Phillips, you spoke about competition. Yeah. There must be competition with you and Lily Phillips because you kind of pull off the same sort of stunts. You both pretended to be pregnant at the same time. You both pretended to be arrested at the same time. Are you in competition with each other? What are your views on Lily Phillips? Do you like Lily Phillips? Is there something that I need to know about her? No, I don't like her.

21:25No, I'm not in competition. I don't think she is competition. No. With the greatest respect. And I'll tell you for why. Yeah. And I wouldn't normally speak about back office stuff in an interview. Yeah. But you've had the courage and conviction to sit opposite me twice now. And you know that I'm not going to sit here and create a safe space and say, this is great. Good on you. I'm going to challenge you because this is kind of... It'd be boring if we were sat there going oh my god, yes, this is amazing. You want a conversation. And it's just a bizarre thing that I think you're doing but I'm still fascinated by it and this is what this show's all about.

22:01I want all walks of life and I don't want to shy away from conversations and I don't care about people saying why are you platforming her? Let me just tell my audience now. Betterment, you will get that. Oh, of course I will. You'll get people discussing you but you can be interested in something. It doesn't mean you agree with it but you can find it intriguing. I'm also talking to the most famous person in the UK. You're platforming me. But let's go back to Lily Phillips. Yeah. And the door is still open for Lily. We've been messed around with interviews with her. And I hope she sees this, actually.

22:32So fuck it, I'm going to go with it because stop messing people about. And she's asked to come on. Yeah. We've agreed, I think, maybe six times. There's a paper trail for that. and every time she either goes or her agent goes silent or can we do that? There's just a load of fucking around and I believe that's because when we replied to her request to come on my guest book, I said, be prepared to be challenged because I have to. Yeah, 100%. Like I said, it's boring if not. But I think that she's swerved me and gone on other ones that are going to be more soft on her and so I do respect the fact that you know that I'm going to challenge you on what you're doing and you've still agreed and you've turned up both times and you've been very pleasant and you've not taken umbrage to any of my line of questioning you've been very forthcoming yeah uh so yeah so for me i think fair play to that yeah i think the reason i'm more than happy to do either a debate or answer difficult questions is because you can't trip me up i honestly love what i do i've never been upset i don't ever come across traumatized i genuinely believe whether you think it's disgusting or not happy to have conversation but I think it's beautiful and I'm really proud of the work I do.

23:43However if that's not how you feel, if that's not how you think, you're going to trip up. You're going to be affected by the questions and you're not always going to be able to answer them amazingly. But I don't have to prepare when I do interviews or podcasts because all I'm sharing is my opinion, how I believe things are and my enjoyment and you can't trip me up on that. Whereas for other people that's not always the case. So yes, you avoid the difficult questions. And why don't you like Lily Phillips? Everything I do, a few hours later, she does the same. And obviously it becomes boring. And it's fine.

24:16I'm the one with the views and the name. But obviously we're in the same industry. I wish nothing but the best. And it's not ever nice to see someone traumatised. But yeah, I just think surely there's a few brain cells to think of your own ideas. If she's copying you, and also I don't want to encourage any hate going to Lily Phillips either. although I would like to sit down with her and discuss a line of work and behaviour like I am with Bonnie. I wonder if she approached me to come on the show because she's seen that you've been on it and done very well. You know, it could be. It's a possibility, isn't it?

24:47Could be the case. Obviously, you've got a good podcast. But yeah, very much if I do something a week later, she's also doing it. Which is fine. I always say I don't know how more people don't copy. I give a lot of sex workers a clear blueprint on how to be successful with your marketing, how to present yourself. but the other reason why I guess people don't copy is because I clearly enjoy it and I wouldn't want people to try and copy and put themselves in hospital left bleeding which other people have done. You've got to do it if it's right for you mentally and physically. I heard you say that you would engage in a full-blown gangbang even if you were pregnant.

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25:23Now did you mean that fucking madness or was that just a market in shock and awe? Get your attention. No, I honestly would. As long as it's safe for the baby and myself, 100 % I would. Come on. I would. No, come on. This is now, we're going into fucking insane territory here. This is like the father and son sleeping with each other. People love like pregnancy content. Yeah, but what about your baby that's grown inside your belly? That's what I mean. I'd have to have like a doctor and I'd have to be checked before and afterwards. A bit like exercise. That's not my concern. If you want to do certain exercise, you have to check with the doctor to say, hey, is this okay?

25:55I'm pregnant. Mine would be the exact same. Having sex just because it might be with 100 guys as opposed to one guy. what's the difference? If I was pregnant, I went, oh my God, me and my husband have got such a healthy sex relationship. Well, healthy sort of sex life. We had sex like 10 hours yesterday. You wouldn't be like, oh my gosh, you're insane. You're a psychopath. But just because that's going to be different cocks going inside of me, suddenly it's an issue. Yeah, you're not comparing lemons with lemons here. What about the baby? When that baby grows up and becomes an adult human being that knows that when she was or he was in your belly, you were being rowed by 100 men.

26:34Does that not concern you, the fact that your child would look back and think, you fucking animal, what were you doing? They might not like it. But would that not bother you? Your own child not liking you for doing that? For sure, I mean, no matter if I am lucky enough to have children, they are going to get hate and they are going to get picked on. But are they going to get gangbang when they're growing in your belly? No, I mean, not everyone can have a mum that's bonnie blue. Like, there's going to be pros and cons, you know, if I have children. But what I can say is that my children will have a beautiful life.

27:03They'll have brilliant health care. They will spend quality time with me. They won't be shipped off to childcare and someone else, drop them off and pick them up from school. Most parents can't spend a lot of time with their children because they've got to work and, you know, it's expensive. You can't not work. Well, I mean, a lot of people don't work. What about the humiliation they would have to live with knowing that when you was carrying them, you was having sex with multiple men on camera? Because you know that would humiliate them. Well, I don't necessarily think it would humiliate him, but I'd have to educate him a lot.

27:33And I would tell him from a young, early age, hey, this is what I do. This is my line of work. But I also haven't thought that far ahead. Like I said, I think about short term happiness. I'm not saying I completely dismiss long term, but I lived a life for many, many years where I was so fixated on, oh, I'll be happier in a few years. I'll be happy in five years. I'll be happy in 10 years when I'm married and I've got a house and a couple of children. and then you realise you dismiss your day-to-day happiness all the time. It's sort of just like a, oh yeah, whatever. I'm working hard today to live a better life tomorrow.

28:03And then that tomorrow suddenly is like five, ten years down the line. So I'm not sat here thinking, oh, if I do have children, what are they going to think or what's going to happen? And I might not even have children when I'm older. Would you like to have children and do you think you'll be a good mother? I think I'd be a brilliant mother and I'm not sure I have children. You're not sure if you want them? So before, 100%, I was obsessed with the idea of having children from such a young age. I used to be a dance teacher and I loved teaching children and having, you know, just being around them.

28:34I'd always want to babysit. I'd always want to look after them. Can you conceive children? I'd have to go through IVF. So I did try with my partner for a couple of years and I wasn't successful. And that was a really tough time. So when all the rumours started coming out that I was pregnant, I was like, the papers don't even understand. and social media doesn't even understand that I can't fall pregnant naturally. So all these rumours were bullshit. I mean, yeah, I uploaded a photo, one photo on my Instagram story with a pickle saying cravings. That was all I did because the papers for about five days prior had gone, Bonnie Blue's pregnant.

29:06On TikTok, it was going viral and same on Twitter. And I was like, yo, once again, looking at my body or just assuming I'm pregnant because I've had sex with a lot of men, not even knowing the full story. And I'm not saying people should, but... What would need to happen in your life for you to want to try for a baby again and go through IVF? Obviously meeting someone. I mean, it might be that in the future I'd want to adopt or just have children by myself. That's also fine. It depends. If I met someone and they also sort of wanted children and we felt it was the right time in our life and we was happy and that was what we wanted to do, then that.

29:40But like I said, I also am not too bothered. If it happens, it happens. And what message do you think you're sending out to young girls? On the whole. On the whole. I think I live by a life when people are starting to see it, just don't care. Don't care about people's judgment. Don't ever not do something because you're worried about what someone's going to say about you, what someone at high school is going to put in the group chat. And that's genuinely what I believe in. I think that's the best message someone can take from me. I'm not saying sleep with a thousand people. I'm not saying I'm the best role model, but I don't care about being that.

30:14But I do want people, whether that's women, men, girls, boys, live a life that makes you happy. Don't be comparing yourself. Don't be trying to do something just so someone says something positive about you because you will get old and regret living by someone's judgment and not doing what you want to do in life. What's your date of birth? 1405, 1999. I said it quick. You answered immediately. That probably clears that up. A lot of people when you've done my last podcast, no way she's 24, no way she's 25. I've always been very mature for my age in terms of my mindset and I think you even switched on this prior.

30:47I've got a very You're an old soul. Yeah. The way I speak and the way I am, but no, I'm 26. I mean, apparently I'm transgender as well, so we can add that one to the list. Are you a man? No. Were you born a man? No. Okay. Are you sure? Positive. Okay, so that's that cleared up. That's that one cleared up. But yeah, there's so many rumours, and one of the biggest hate comments I get is, oh, she's 46. And I'm really not bothered by it, though, because I'm like, fair enough, okay, you think I look old, but for me, I've got good skin. I think I'm in shape. I'm happy and healthy. So what more could I ask for?

31:22Where do you draw the line with your boundary pushing? I mean, what's your next stunt? And where do you draw the line? I mean, 1 ,000 men's outrageous. You had Dilly Phillips doing 50 men in the back door. You had her walking around the streets of London with a spunk all over her face. It's just like, fucking, what are you girls doing? But is there a line that you won't cross? I mean, you did say that you wouldn't sleep with illegal migrants, which I was delighted to hear. Oh, thank you. Yes. Well done, Bonnie. Give it a good shake. You've always got to slip something like that in there. Yeah, you can slip it in.

31:57As long as it's legal, I always say, as long as it's legal, I'll give it a go. No limits. Well, I do have limits because I don't do backdoor. But my next event is on the 9th of August, and I'm really looking forward to that one. Tell me about that. I want to welcome all shapes and sizes and all ages above 18 to come and let me check their balls out. So it's going to be me and two official doctors. And we're going to be checking for testicular cancer. But I say we, I'm going to be busy using my holes in other ways, but there's going to be a massive benefit from the event because people can be checked for testicular cancer.

32:31And how does this end after they've had their testicles checked? Well, hopefully everyone's fit and healthy. But if not, I'll be putting them in contact with doctors and we can see if we can help. Is there something additional to the testicle checks that you'll be doing on the day? Yeah, I mean, my holes are going to be used for sure. Okay, so there is that twist to it again. I can't see thousands of men and not have my holes used. I mean, what's the point in having them? Exactly. My first ever event was meant to be a bukkake, a bukkake where it's just a blowjob. And just before the event started, there were 75 guys.

33:07And I was like, hold on a second, why can't I fuck her? Like, why can't I just get bent over instead? so whatever I say even if I say it's just going to be a handjob or blowjob the next minute you leave the room you come back in and I bent over and all the holes are being used Do you respect women on the whole? Yes and no It's a difficult one like you know when I said people try to say it's one or the other with women it's not that I disrespect her but when I get hate sometimes I look at where the hate's coming from and as a whole it's fat lazy women that sat on benefits the buyer says a stay-at-home mum of two.

33:43No problem with that. But don't tell me I've took women back hundreds of years. What was the point of you even trying to argue a good salary? You don't even fucking work. So it's not that I hate women at all. But do I think women a lot of time are lazy, emotional, expect too much from men and then say they want things equal, but best believe they aren't paying for that dinner bill or they're not going to be opening the door for you. So let's not say things are completely equal and you want things equal because do women go to work more in the men's stay at home? No, they expect things to be paid for.

34:14And that's where it really frustrates me with women that they pretend they want things equal. But their work ethic is pathetic. What about you? Do you respect yourself? Yeah, 100%. That's going to come as a shock, I know. But I think it's more disrespectful if I had let myself stay in a recruitment job or office job or any sort of job of such worked 40, 50 hours a week for 20 days annual leave for a salary that is restricted by someone. And you have to ask, if you need to go to the doctors, you need to book it as a day of annual leave. And you live this most generic life and you can't really create anything too beautiful within those restrictions.

34:56That I think is more disrespectful than what I do now. Do you ever cry? Sometimes, but not really. What makes you sad? Most recently, my divorce. so my divorce should be sorted in August and it's emotional, it's hard and I think anyone that's been through a divorce or even breakup for that matter will say it's difficult and me and my partner have been separated for like well over a year now but the divorce just sort of finalises this is the end of an era this is the end of it and they're thinking about growing old together and they're thinking about having children together and you know, them conversations you have you know, signing the divorce papers make you realise okay, that's over Do you still love him?

35:36Oh, I always love him. Yeah. I saw that he was on your Channel 4 documentary and I thought to myself, he's either the ultimate simp or the ultimate pimp. Which one is he? Neither. He is a really sweet guy. I'm really grateful to have spent 10 years with him. And it's funny, like now, I always thought, how can people stay friends when they break up? But I'm in a position where, I've said this before, the last few years of our relationship, we probably should have separated but we'd become so comfortable with each other we'd been together so long so naturally you just get used to it and we love each other but we're not in love with each other and I think for many couples and many people that have been in long-term relationships confuse the two and it's so easily done but I was brave enough and confident enough that I was going to be independent and be able to separate.

36:28Do you think you'll ever be able to love again yeah 100 i'm not traumatized i've i've had a brilliant upbringing my job i've never been forced into something everything i do is my decision i'm complete control so i do believe i can love again i only ask that because i know how hard it is certainly for me to love somebody yeah and i couldn't even imagine loving somebody new i mean the idea of even dating now it's scary you know i've met someone and i thought it's going to be with them for the rest of my life and that's not the case. And I've realised you didn't always get this fairytale ending.

37:03But as long as I'm happy, we did get our fairytale ending. We got married. We spent a lovely amount of time together. We relocated to Australia. We went on beautiful holidays. We've got three amazing pets. So we did have our fairytale. That was one chapter. Were you stay friends? Oh, 100%. You stay friends? Yeah. He actually sent me a text on the way here. I said, did you watch the documentary last night? And he said, do you want my honest opinion? And I said, yes. And I thought, fucking hell, he's going to go in on me now. And he was like, I've never been more proud of you. I can't remember what the message said, but I can show you after.

37:36It was just like a, I'm really proud. I thought it was amazing. And what were Channel 4 like? Because they're normally like a big left-leaning. I mean, I can't believe they went there. What were they like? Good timing with the age restrictions, wasn't it? Sticking that out. Yes, funny how all these things seem to be orchestrated. But yeah, what were they like? Difficult. Woke? Well, they can't be woke if they're platforming you. No, I'd say, I mean, I've never done TV like this before. I've never done a documentary. I've never had someone follow me for so long. It wasn't, when I say difficult, it wasn't always their fault.

38:07I didn't realise the amount of restrictions there is when you're filming. I thought everywhere I go, they can just follow me. They have to get the sign-up from the council or they have to have the go-ahead from the owners of a property. And it really was hard. I wanted it to be a, you follow me a lot more than what they did. And also, they didn't realise how busy I was going to be. They started filming in December. Since then I've done God knows how many gangbangs. I've visited probably five, six plus countries. I've done Spring Break. I did 1 ,000 men. I did 100-man live stream. I don't know.

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39:55I'll have to watch it. I did start watching it in preparation for today. Yeah. But I just, I've got so many things. The whole thing's like a porno. So I didn't realise. Oh, they've gone there, have they? Oh my God, the whole thing, like get your box of tissues ready. I didn't realise you could show that amount of sex and there's been multiple articles that have gone out sort of last night and today saying there's never been a documentary or TV show to show that amount of sex on British TV. It must be in the second half because I started watching it and I didn't see any of that. It must be later on in the documentary.

40:24a lot of sex in there. Do you get celebrities slipping in your DMs? All the time. Can we name a few of them? No. How many of them have upset you and you think, I'm going to get my own back on you? Oh, definitely not upset me. Movie stars, football players, what's the worst type of celebrity? Oh, gosh. I'd probably say like singers or rappers. Oh, come on, let me take you backstage. Let me... They try and offer things, but they definitely want a blowjob in return. And I actually did go meet a sort of singer-rapper when I was over in the States. And it was more meant to be like a, let's share content.

40:58Let's not share content, but let's do some social media. Like I wasn't expecting them to be in a sex tape, nor was I expecting they wanted sex. But I went into that quite naively. And it was like, oh, let's have a little tour of the building. And the next minute they're expecting sex. The extras. If Snoop Dogg DM'd you asking for a blowjob, would you oblige? No. I don't care about your followers or your money. I don't want your money and I don't need your followers. If Snoop Dogg wanted to make a sex tape with me and show his face, 100 % I'll be on my knees in no time. But if you're wanting just to have sex with me off camera and keep it secret, then what do I gain from that?

41:36Why did you get banned from OnlyFans? I mean, how on earth do OnlyFans even ban people? The reason I was singing it out was apparently for dangerous. I forget the exact words. It was like dangerous activity. But what I was doing was not dangerous. It was consensual. and who are they to say you can't do that, it's dangerous, or have communication with me. And I was given a formal warning before the official ban for something I never even did. It was another content creator. And it was seriously concerning that they can get me confused with someone else when I platform that deal with such sensitive content.

42:11Are they big payers, OnlyFans? I earn a lot of money on OnlyFans, yeah. Did that just stop overnight? Yeah. How did that affect you? Because I think you're probably driven by the money. genuinely took it really well i saw the email to say i'm permanently banned and i was like okay cool i actually i could see it coming because there was more and more restrictions and i was like i can't imagine only fans being my long-term platform and as and when these restrictions were building up i was like sort of knew i needed to make the move but it's like if you need to move house you sort of can't be bothered it's a lot of work and you just think okay i'll stay where i am until you're sort of forced or you're given a natural reason to move So when I got the email to say I was banned, I sort of took it really well.

42:55Of course, I was frustrated. I'd lost so many subscribers that I've built such an amazing relationship with. And suddenly I can't get hold of him. I can't speak to him. And yeah, it was a concern. You took it on the chin. Yeah. Let me go back to them men that line up and do lascivious things with you. What does that word mean? It just means very highly sexual. Oh, OK. How do you perceive these men? You see, for me, I made no bones about it. Those thousand men that all lined up to have their wicked way with you. Yeah. If my son was one of those. How old's your son? He's 18. Just my type. I'd brain him.

43:36I would say, what the fuck are you doing? You're mugging yourself off. Well, you can join him. Then you can watch, see what he's getting up to. We know how weird that is, Bonnie. Let's not pretend. It's not weird. But when you look at these men, is there any part of you, any part of you that thinks to yourself, you fucking sad plum. See, I wish I could do a lie detector because... They need a slap. No, when I answer these questions, everyone thinks I'm marketing myself. I'm saying it because my subscribers obviously want me to say this or of course I'm going to say that because why would I say they're disgusting?

44:08Genuinely, they're not. And I'd have this conversation with you on and off camera. I understand why you think that. I understand, and I probably even spoke to you last time and before like these men have all got such a different reason for being there for wanting to meet me maybe their wives not sucked them off or maybe they're going through a really down time and they're concerned about their body appearance so them coming to see me is a boost in their confidence or maybe they absolutely adore the wife but the wife's no longer sexually active in that sense so they just want to come and see me have their release and then go back to them like I don't judge them I don't find them disgusting I don't care if they're skinny or fat like Like genuinely, I'm not repulsed by him at all.

44:48Okay. What about Mr. 950? Yeah. That's had 949 go before him. Is there never a moment where you look at him and think, you fucking pathetic man? No. I do sometimes feel sorry for him. I think, fuck, I'm so sorry I'm covered in so much cum. Because some guys love it. Nothing worse. God, the amount of men that will want to clean me up afterwards. They want to clean my jewellery. They want to clean my face and everything. And you don't think these motherfuckers are the saddest individuals you've ever met? No. They want to mop other people's spunk off your face? I love the fact that they know what they enjoy.

45:22I don't know, that's weird. Would I do it? No. Would I go and click? Because it's not my fetish. I love other guys coming to clean, come off me and it turns me on. But would I want to go and lick a girl after five girls have squirted on her face? Probably not. You've got to do what suits you and what turns you on. but at no point have I ever felt disgusted by him the only time I've ever kicked someone out during the thousand there was a moment where four guys were on the sofa I was being fucked from behind in doggy and one of the guys that was lying there with his dick out was like oh my god look at his his is really small oh my gosh and I was like get out like instantly got security to make him leave because I was like everyone's here whether you think they're disgusting whatever no one is being judged.

46:10I don't want anyone walking away from this feeling insecure, feeling like I was laughed at. I was judged today. That's one thing I don't, I don't do and I never will. So that's the only time I've been disgusted in someone. And I was really frustrated that he did that. I was like, you really let me down there. Because if you know me and you're a subscriber or you sort of, you could watch me for five minutes and you realise I genuinely am proud and really passionate about the men that come and see me. So it, that really frustrated me. Well, you may be dead behind the eyes but there's kindness in there i am as a whole a very kind i mean these words are probably gonna be laugh like sweet innocent and quite shy person sometimes like if we went to the pub and i wasn't bonnie blue i probably wouldn't speak much i'd be like hi are you okay i hope you had a good day type of thing and i'm not i don't walk in and want all eyes on me i don't want all of the attention do you get approached a lot on the street or in public yeah and i mean you are mega famous.

47:07Yeah, I mean, it's so weird. That word, I never thought my name and the word famous would be linked. Mega famous. I know, it's really weird. In my family, I walked around the park recently and we got stopped every, literally every five minutes if that. Everyone was coming over for photos, asking for me to sign things. And they was just amazed. And my dad was like, oh my God, this is crazy. They just see me as Tia. They just see me as their daughter. Who is Tia? Who was Tia? I mean I'm still I'm like I say now Tia and Bonnie have crossed a lot it originally started off with Bonnie Blue I was doing it for money I was doing it to better my life I didn't enjoy the sex majority of the orgasms were faked I didn't even know you could come on camera because I thought how on earth are you enjoying yourself on camera you're so fixated on the positions the angle doing a performance then over time I became a lot more confident in the bedroom that I I wasn't as fixated on the cameras.

48:02I wasn't like a, oh my God, there's a camera there. I need to do this. And I was more confident in myself. If it took me longer to come, I didn't feel like, shit, I will just fake it. You know what? Okay, you need to go a little bit to the left. No, stick another finger in. Can you do this? And it gradually made it so it became less of a performance and more of a... A natural thing. I enjoy this. Yeah, like some of my sex tape now, I watch my face as I come and I think, God, I should have faked that one. I've got like a double chin in it. You can see me tense enough and shaking, but that's also sexy.

48:33But like you're having a fit. Yeah, because sometimes I'm like, fuck you. Now, you know, maybe I should have paid a bit more attention to that camera. But it became less of a act and more of a, OK, this is who I am. And I'll say things more clicky. 100%. I know what I'm doing. We're doing a podcast. So there were some things I've said. Would I say if that was just Tia? No, I'd say in a more long winded way, but we don't have all day. So everything I say is bonnie is everything I believe is Tia. I just word it slightly different in more of a short-winded way. Cut the crap way. Yeah. How do you deal with all the hate that you get?

49:08What hate? I've spotted a little bit. Just a little bit. Really doesn't bother me. And once again, no one's going to believe this. You just think I'm saying it to say it. I believe you, but the hate is huge to the point where I think it's, I disagree with what you do. Yeah. But it doesn't change how I view you as a person because I know that you're kind and I'm really sort of a big believer of like, if someone's kind, like see that in them. Yeah. And when I see the hate, I think I understand why you're going to be appalled and horrified. Yeah. But like, there's a stage where you think, is this now bullying?

49:47Yeah, I always say, like I've not debated with you, I can understand why you think it's disgusting and X, Y and Z. And when I see these comments, I never argue them. The only time I'm arguing it, when they're like, you should be in prison, you are a predator, you are a groomer. So you're trying to make a statement of something that's not true. Well, I've seen people wish you dead. This is what I mean. Yeah. There's one thing me saying, you know, because in a minute I'm going to ask you, what can I say to make you stop this? Because I think you could put your fame to better use. I'm going to come to that.

50:15but when I see people writing in the comments that you should be dead I think fucking hell that's a bridge too far see they say to me in these comments I'm going to report you to the police and I cannot wait to come and murder you I cannot wait to come and kill you and I'm like you do realise you're the one in the wrong you're the one that's just wished someone dead what I'm doing and I have started to notice a bit of a switch recently they're like you know what I don't like this girl but everything she's doing is consensual she's not actually doing anything wrong she's not a victim and the people she sleep with also aren't a victim and I've also seen a comment recently and it's popped up a few times like everyone I've slept with I mean you probably agree with this one those names should be released those men should be on the child's you know list they should well they should be on the register they should be locked away x y and z and it's like why because they're sleeping with a consenting adult they're sleeping with a 46 year old as everyone likes to say they're not hurting anyone and I'm not hurting anyone and it's crazy how these poorly educated people like to make statements as if they're clever than me they're better than me not only is my bank balance a lot more than them am I a lot happier than them but they are genuinely going to go nowhere of their life and it's how can I be affected by that someone that's living in a council house struggling to pay the bills and their teeth need filling out like how can I be offended by you you're a tramp I think maybe is a little slogan a little catchphrase that pays I just thought of it just there and then.

51:38When someone wants to murder you, you could reply, what I do is barely legal, what you've just threatened to do is really illegal. But 100%, like the word barely legal, the second bloody word in that is legal. They're like, oh my God, she's even admitted she slept with someone barely legal. And it's like, yeah, you're fucking moron. The second word in that is legal. Yes, I'm clever with it. And I'm clearly a lot more clever than you because I've made you make a TikTok on me. I've made it so that you're so frustrated that you've done this and they think that they're one up on me and I'm like no I already knew you was going to do this of course I want a reaction from you the more you talk about me the more your husband's going to search me the more your son's going to hear my name in the house where he's going to go and have a wank over me so it's really fun to sort of highlight the lack of intelligence from majority of the world I mean you certainly are a marketing genius Yes, you have managed to manipulate the masses into doing the work for you.

52:37Yeah. That has to be acknowledged. I mean, you could also be a great business mentor outside of the sex industry, I'm sure. No, they're fucking lazy. Majority of the people in my industry are just sluts. Like, there's nothing else to them. And that's fine. But that's the difference between me and them, is they're just a slut. And I'm a slut, but I'm also very intelligent. And I'm also sweet, kind and caring. They're someone that expect things from men. they expect the men to subscribe. They expect people to want to talk to them. They expect people should know who they are and they should have loads of Instagram followers and all this other shit.

53:11I'm like, but why? You don't deserve anything. You should never expect anything in life. You should work for it. And that's why I get really frustrated with sex workers when they're like, oh, but people should like me. And whether you're skinny or fat, they're like, oh, they should like me because I'm skinny or they should like me because I'm fat. I'm like, no, no, doesn't care. It doesn't matter what your body shape is. you're never owed, owed stuff in life. And a lot of sex workers just, they love themselves too much. What can I say to make you stop all this madness? Nothing. Genuinely nothing.

53:44And there's no amount of money you could offer me. I've already got more than enough money to stop and I don't want to. I already live the most beautiful life possible and I could continue living this without doing what I do now. There really is nothing you could say and if you wasn't in this industry yeah doing what you do pushing the the sexual boundaries completely separate to that yeah what could you see yourself doing I would still be in recruitment probably still in Australia because I want to got banned maybe have adopted or gone through IVF and I'd still be with my ex and for most people that's the dream life that's what you should that's what should make you happy and that that's okay that that doesn't make me happy for some people that's what they want but for some people that have got more brain cells they realize that's not the big all and end all what about moving forward could you see yourself getting into into acting into modeling into something like that back could you could you go back to like build a drama or a dance school perhaps oh god no i don't think anyone would let their kids come near me now that's not good yeah but i also couldn't give a shit i know did i want to do dancing that's why i stopped all about acting so i mean maybe i do some acting roles for sure but I'd still be doing this alongside.

54:59For me, I'm always going to have an orgasm. I might not always do gang bangs, but I'm always going to want to come. And I enjoy filming it. So there's no end date in that sense. So even if I did acting, I'd still be doing online sort of content to a certain degree. Modeling, no. I don't like the odd photo shoot. I'm not really into photos. Much prefer a video. And I don't think I'd suit modeling. I don't really like having my photos and the makeup and all that shit on. I'm not that girly. Is there any, because I asked you before about any celebrity crushes and I mentioned Eamon Holmes and amongst me and my friends, when they heard me ask you that, you didn't know who he was and they did my WhatsApp.

55:42I mean, it was a funny gag. It was wasted on you, but we got a lot of laughs out of that with the lads. But since last year, are there any well-known celebrities that you've got a bit of a crush on or would be on the Bonnie Blue hit list? oh chris hemsworth i think he's sexy um and there's a guy from emily in paris i mean your subscribers probably don't don't watch that this is that really sexy mixed race guy um but no there's no and this has always been the case i've never been obsessed with anyone or never been like oh my god obsessed over them it really is personality which is really cliche to say because those people like oh it's not looks it's personality but if he was like hey let's go camping this weekend let's go wakeboarding let's just go and float around in the sea and go on a beautiful boat trip and go snorkelling, that would turn me on and get me excited.

56:29Here's a question. Yeah. If you could only sleep with one of these two people. Yes. Would you choose to fuck Richard Pryor or Gene Walder? I don't know who either of them are. Can they take me to Paris? I think they're both dead now, so no. Oh, shit. Have you seen See No Evil, Hear No Evil? No. Have you seen Stir Crazy? No. Okay. Would you have any celebrity crushes? No, I'm not a crush person. You know what? When I was younger, I had Freddy Krueger posters on my bedroom while all my mates have Pamela Anderson. I've never, ever, ever had any kind of crush. I need to meet somebody, speak to them, smell them.

57:04Yeah, I'm a funny old fish, me. I'm very, very strange. But yeah, do you know what? Before I ask you the final question, I've given you a fair fucking grilling and I totally appreciate you allowing it and being very amicable in your response. I'll get backlash irrespective. For sure. It's all part of the fun. One question then. What do you think of me? oh fucking hell do you think i mean it's a few questions in one do you think i enjoy it do you think i'm bothered by the hay and do you think i'm happy you probably are happy yeah i think you could be a hell of a lot happier and i don't think you'll realize that until you've changed lanes and found something that really makes you feel electric but at the moment i believe that you believe you're happy yeah uh what do i think of you i think you're a very nice person i just think you're doing a very ugly thing.

57:55I don't think hate bothers you. In fact, hate you create into currency. On a whole, I mean, it's hard to say you're misunderstood because you're getting rowed by thousands of men on camera. So it's like there's not much to misunderstand. But I do see the good in you. I don't think you're a horrendous person. And I hope that you know that I don't. I wouldn't ask you to come back for a second time. But I'm intrigued. I'm gobsmacked. I would love to talk you out of it and say, please do something else. Please set a different example to my friend's daughters. I've not got a biological daughter. So maybe that's why I can have a bit of a laugh and a joke.

58:34I think if I had a biological daughter, I'd be like, what the fuck is going on here? But no, and same as before, I wish you all the luck in the world. I wish you were doing something else that I could put that luck into. Well, I think we should do a year from now and then see how much has changed again. Because yes, I knew my life was going to become busier since we last spoke. didn't expect what's happened in the last six months or 10 months. So I'm excited to see where it's going to go 10 months from now. Yeah, but consider this an invite for part three in 10 months time. Yeah. And I'll see what you get up to.

59:07I really hope that someone doesn't do anything silly. I really hope you slowly rein it back a little bit. I think you will in time. You're 25, having the time of your life because you're doing what you enjoy. But yeah, what was your final message to the masses be? My final message to the masses is for me is I think what you're doing is dangerous. And I really hope you and everybody else that's involved stay safe. But what's your final message to the masses? Boys, I hope you enjoy wanking over me. And I'm sorry your wife is so pathetic. For fuck sake. If you've enjoyed this conversation and you want to hear more conversations like this, although you'll probably have to wait another 10 months, please do like and subscribe to the channel.

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