In short
Jake Julius argues that Europe (especially the UK and Spain) is undergoing “demographic and cultural replacement” driven by mass immigration, leftism, feminism, and “cultural Marxist” influence; he links this to rising nationalism and claims Pride events are sexualizing children.
Guests
Jake Julius (host/guest speaker). Background: travels across Europe interviewing nationalist groups; records events with footage (e.g., Madrid Pride) and discusses UK/European politics from a nationalist perspective.
Key claims
- Madrid Pride is not family-friendly and includes public nudity with children present; he says this is “illegal” in Spain.
- He claims feminism and transgenderism lead to a “degeneracy spiral” culminating in child involvement.
- He argues governments and political infrastructure enable immigration that lowers quality of life and undermines “high trust” societies.
- He says most nationalists are “patriotic” rather than racist, and that “civic nationalism” fails because assimilation is impossible at current rates.
Notable examples
- Madrid Pride parade with naked men wearing cock rings and children in a “child section.”
- Nucleo Nacional (Spanish group) reportedly not counter-protesting Pride due to taboo/elite pressure.
- Claims about UK protests, “grooming gangs,” and Israel/anti-Israel focus in Western politics.
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Chapters
Tap a time to open that second in VOThe Decline of MomTalk Friendships
0:30 to 1:18
Discussion on the changes and trust issues within the MomTalk community.
“May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.”
Concerns About Cultural Changes
1:18 to 1:40
Exploration of demographic changes in the UK and their implications.
“They want to import the whole third world on your taxpayer dime while you're seeing your quality of life constantly go down.”
Critique of Government Policies
1:40 to 1:50
Criticism of government actions related to immigration and societal impact.
“five-star luxury hotels when you're struggling to put food on the table.”
Reflections on Pride Events
1:50 to 2:22
Discussion on the nature of Pride events and public decency.
“Tell me where the progress is waving your cock and balls around in front of a child's face.”
Experience at Madrid Pride Parade
2:22 to 4:00
Detailed personal account of witnessing the Madrid Pride Parade and its shocking elements.
“and there's fully grown men in the nude wearing cock rings so their cock and balls are fully on display as is their ass, broad daylight en masse, and there's children everywhere.”
Cultural Commentary on Sexual Norms
4:00 to 6:00
Examination of cultural norms regarding nudity and sexual expression in public spaces.
“And in front of them is men with arseless chaps on.”
Historical Context of Social Changes
6:00 to 7:58
Analysis of historical events leading to current cultural dynamics.
“But feminism essentially was a movement, like a political movement, to sort of eradicate the differences between genders.”
The Role of Feminism in Cultural Shifts
7:58 to 10:00
Discussion on feminism's influence on societal changes and perceptions of gender.
“But if you could have an uncensored conversation with one of the parents, what would you say to them if there was no consequence of arrest?”
Intersections of Progressivism and Tradition
10:00 to 12:30
Comparison of progressive values versus traditional values in society.
“And it was an interesting interview, but to my shock, none of them were actually going and counter protesting this Pride event.”
Views on Nationalism and Leftism
12:30 to 14:00
Discussion on nationalism's relevance and the challenges posed by leftist ideologies.
“Like with the traditionalists, we have something to look for, to look to, and we have something to ground ourselves in.”
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Introduction to the Podcast
14:01 to 14:55
Discussion revolves around the dynamics of the show and its themes.
“Four years ago, we were just making TikToks.”
Exploring Nationalism in Europe
14:56 to 18:02
Analyzing the rise of nationalism and its implications in various European countries.
“Well, the good news is we welcome all of those things on this channel.”
The Complexity of Racism and Nationalism
18:03 to 19:45
Examining the difference between nationalism and racism, discussing public perceptions.
“And when other cultures come in and try to infiltrate and subvert my culture, that's when I dislike those people and I dislike the thing that's going on.”
Nationalists' Perspectives on Culture
20:22 to 28:00
Insights into how various nationalist groups perceive their cultural identity and organization.
“what percentage would you say are just bonafide racists and just hate-fuelled compared to patriotic?”
Fury Over Fear in UK Protests
28:00 to 36:20
Discussing the emotional landscape of protests in the UK amidst rising tensions.
“and nitpick them about every little thing that you disagree with them about.”
The Complex Relationship with Israel
36:20 to 42:00
Exploring the intricate ties between Israel, the US, and the implications for Western culture.
“May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.”
Understanding Global Conflicts and Perspectives
42:00 to 44:39
Explore the complexities of international conflicts, particularly in the Middle East, and the differing perspectives on nationalism and identity.
“It's just that sort of like spiritual tension that's always happening in that area of the world between the three different Abrahamic religions.”
The Nature of Political Violence and Nationalism
44:40 to 47:41
Discuss the ethics of political violence and the challenges faced by nationalist movements in modern society.
“These are the people that I'm trying to protect.”
Social Media's Impact on Human Interaction
47:42 to 51:11
Examine how social media affects interpersonal skills and societal morals in today's youth.
“pique my interest a little bit because, you know, the pagan cultures were very offensive in the way in which they sort of seized land and everything, the Vikings from the English, for example.”
Youth Dynamics and Political Ideologies
51:12 to 54:21
Analyze the current political climate among youth, including the rise of nationalism and leftist ideologies.
“And one of the byproducts of that is that instead of viewing that from a human lens, I should help, we view it from the social media lens.”
Migration and Its Effects on Nationalism
54:52 to 56:00
Discuss the relationship between mass migration and the rise of nationalist sentiments in Britain.
“May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.”
The Impact of Migration on National Identity
56:00 to 1:04:48
Explore how migration affects national identity and cultural cohesion in Britain.
“But like if the economy is booming, for example, if it's humming, then people aren't going to worry so much because their own quality of life is personally better.”
Jake's Work and Nationalist Movements
1:04:48 to 1:06:36
Learn about Jake's YouTube channel and his exploration of rising nationalist movements.
“But, yeah, I do worry about the means by which that happens.”
Transcript
Automatic transcript. May contain errors.0:00An all-new season of the Hulu Original Series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+. Four years ago, we were just making TikToks. But it feels like there are no friendships left in MomTalk. You act like you're better than everyone, you're not. I can't trust anyone in this group. She's just dead to me. There's so much the public doesn't know. Watch the new season of the Hulu Original Series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+. For bundle subscribers, terms apply. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller.
0:36Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The Certified Fresh Series returns. Your boss. You always like this, or is this just an act? Oh, no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! How to have my heart! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. To what extent can we have other cultures coming into our culture and still maintain our culture? Any town you go to in the UK, there is a demographic change. I don't hate anybody because of their race.
1:10It's the governments and political infrastructure that has allowed all that that I hate. Highest trust society is letting in untrustworthy people. It's never, ever going to work. They want to import the whole third world on your taxpayer dime while you're seeing your quality of life constantly go down. The biggest pride parade in Europe. Fully grown men, cock and balls are fully on display, and there's children everywhere. Feminism actually is one of the main culprits here. It's a movement designed to eradicate the differences between the sexes. Transgenderism is obviously a mental disorder. Young women being raped by migrants, killed by migrants, five-star luxury hotels when you're struggling to put food on the table.
1:44Logical conclusion of mass migration at the scale that we've got at the moment is total demographic and cultural replacement. We are in a war against progressives. Tell me where the progress is waving your cock and balls around in front of a child's face. And we are in a war against leftism. You cannot show weakness to Islamists or you're gone.
2:05Jake, thanks for coming on. Appreciate it, man. I want to talk to you about the rise of nationalism and the work you're doing at the moment, going around parts of Europe, speaking to different nationalist groups. I'm very interested in a hell of a lot of stuff on that. But before we begin, you've just shown me on your phone actual footage. You've just been to Madrid. You've been to a Pride event. and there's fully grown men in the nude wearing cock rings so their cock and balls are fully on display as is their ass, broad daylight en masse, and there's children everywhere. Just talk to me about that.
2:41Let's try and make some fucking sense of that. So Madrid Pride Parade is actually the biggest pride parade in Europe and I figure that there's probably maybe some bigger ones in America but Europe's pretty gay. So, I mean, that's probably one of the biggest ones in the world. And so I decided that I was going to go there just to sort of record it and get some of this stuff on footage. I'm also interviewing some of the Spanish nationalists over there, but that's a separate video. But the Pride one is coming out this weekend. I'm not sure when this episode will be up. But when I got there, it was actually a lot worse than I thought because this is advertised as a family-friendly event.
3:13You're meant to be able to bring your kids there. And so I'm walking around and I've got my camera there and I've got my metaglasses. and as I'm walking around, I start to see naked men just walking around like the parade. And I'm thinking to myself, this surely can't be endorsed by the actual Pride event because there are children everywhere and this is meant to be a family-friendly event. But then I showed you the footage of some of the naked men walking around. They're actually in the parade. So they're doing the whole entire march from back to front. And there are thousands and thousands, tens of thousands, maybe even 100 ,000 people there cheering them on as they're walking up and down.
3:47And I'm not even joking. There are kids everywhere. Like I've got footage of kids with a bunch of fairies around them and their parents are giving them to the fairies to take photos. I've got footage of like children walking in the march. Like there was a child section of the march. And in front of them is men with arseless chaps on. They're just looking at these guys' arses the whole time. And it's not like just naked men because naked men is one thing. But like you said, naked men all having cock rings on. They've got like scary sort of masks on. And this is clearly just like the worst sort of sexual degeneracy and fetishism that you've ever seen.
4:23And it's kids just openly in the public looking at this. And I was speaking to the Spanish guys, the nationalists, and they were saying that that's illegal to do that in Spain. It's illegal. Yeah. I was going to say, if these weird people want to walk around with their cocks swinging in the breeze with rubber rings, trapping all the blood in their cock and balls, and they want to walk around with their bum hanging out of their chaps, If they're in like a circus tent and it's adults only and it's just them and nobody else can see what they're doing and that's their thing and they're not hurting no one, fine.
4:54But outside in the great outdoors for all to see, including children, how do you think we got to this stage where that not only is acceptable, it's applauded, encouraged and championed and parents are now bringing their kids to see that shit? Now, when I was brought up, I'm a bit older than you. I mean, saying I'm probably the worst example because my dad's a terrible man, but most of my friends, their parents used to protect us children from sexual deviancy and certainly full nudity, especially men with like fucking sex rings around their cock and balls. From what you've seen, boots on the deck, how do you think we've got to such a stage, such a terrible, shocking stage?
5:33Well, I think that it just depends how far you want to go back, really. Like if you want to go back as far as the sort of like French Revolution when they destroyed the monarchies around Europe and all sense of decency to World Wars I and II, which was a fight between Christian Europe to destroy the civilizations, you can go back that far. You can go to the cultural Marxist sort of infiltration of the universities from the 1960s onwards. Feminism is another big one. surprisingly. Some people don't really sort of draw that link. But feminism essentially was a movement, like a political movement, to sort of eradicate the differences between genders.
6:08And so it's ironic now that you have all of these TERFs, the trans-exclusionary radical feminists, you have a lot of them in the UK actually, that are celebrating when the government legislates that a woman is a female or whatever it is. Last year that happened here. But feminism actually is one of the main culprits here because, like I said, it's a movement designed to eradicate the differences between the sexes, which obviously ushers in transgenderism. And transgenderism is obviously a mental illness. It's a mental disorder that people have. And that's something that you need to treat with care and love and not affirmation.
6:41And so it's just this culture of affirmation that eventually, like, what's the line here? So if you're walking around with your family and there's little children looking at men, what's the justification for that? The justification is obviously going to be that, oh, well, you know, it's just a human body. These are just naked men and children need to be exposed to this because this is just the way that people are. People are born this way. So then if children can consent to that, what can't children consent to? Like if you take it to its logical conclusion and if you actually ask these people, why is it acceptable for children to be able to see this thing?
7:15They're going to say, well, because, you know, this is just natural. Homosexuality is natural. Relations between human beings is natural. It's just a naked body. It's natural. So then what's the line? There is no line. So that's why ultimately it goes from equality of the sexes and feminism, this sort of thing, to men and women being no different, transgenderism, to eventually children being involved in this. And children are actually adults and maybe they have some sort of a desire that they should be able to consent to. This is a logical conclusion of it. And anybody who tells me that pedophilia is not the logical conclusion of this, I've got a bridge to sell you because I've got evidence that it is.
7:51Did you manage to speak to any of these children's parents that were encouraging this madness? I didn't speak to any of them. I was just walking around and documenting it all. But if you could have an uncensored conversation with one of the parents, what would you say to them if there was no consequence of arrest? I would probably say something along the lines of why are you here with your children? Why is it okay for your children to be here? And I would expect, like I said before, to have some sort of a response that says, well, you know, this is just the natural order of people. These people are born this way.
8:21They're homosexuals, born this way and this is how people act and children should be exposed to this just like they should be exposed to the nuclear family. Because ultimately in these people's minds, there's no difference between men walking around having group sex and these sorts of things that they do and the nuclear family. They're just different ways to live and everybody has their preferences. So if children should be exposed to the nuclear family, then why shouldn't they be exposed to mass homosexual orgies? Yeah, you see, you're a lot more calmer than me. Probably not a bad thing. No, but this is why I probably didn't want to speak to them because my blood was boiling and I was enraged by this.
8:55Yeah. How do you have a calm conversation with someone that's putting their children up in front of someone's cock and balls? Because children, again, this is what people need to consider are these pride events. Got no problem doing your pride thing as long as it's concealed and you're just all adults. But when children are three foot and there's a six foot bloke there and three foot down are his genitals. Them children are looking straight at their genitals, eye level, which is fucking insane because eye level is bi-level. So that's all they're going to be focused on, which, yeah, balls my piss.
9:28So you was out there speaking to the nationalists. Yep. What did the Madrid nationalists have to say about this whole affair? Well, this is one of the most fascinating parts for me because I don't know if you saw a few weeks ago there was a group called Nucleo Nacional that went viral on Twitter and they had the White Lives Matter flag and they had the like a burning sticks and everything. And they were basically saying that Henry Novak, we stand in solidarity with the English nationalists. So these guys are generally considered to be like really far right. Like some of them are national socialists and everything.
9:57So I went to their clubhouse and I was interviewing them and just to sort of see what they're all about as opposed to what you see on Twitter. And it was an interesting interview, but to my shock, none of them were actually going and counter protesting this Pride event. And when I asked them why, they said it's because it's so taboo in Spain to counter protest against LGBTQ lifestyles. So even the furthest right guys can't protest against LGBTQ in Spain, which I found like some of them went along like one or two of them and were trolling a little bit and doing some questions. But you would think with the sort of footage that I've got there and with people who are, you know, as far right as it gets allegedly, that they would be there protesting, saying not on our streets, but none of them went because they were like, that's too taboo for us, man.
10:43In a sense where the Spanish elites would come down on any counter-protests. And culturally it's so taboo because Spain is such a liberal and progressive culture apparently. And I asked them about this and I've got this all on tape, me saying, well, is there going to be any counter-protests? And people were saying, no, we tend to focus on other things because if you go against feminism or if you go against LGBTQ in Spain, it's just too much heat for us. And I was shocked by that. Do you know what? The whole progressive term, I find that insane. Tell me where the progress is waving your cock and balls around in front of a child's face.
11:14Well, it's interesting because progressivism is essentially, if you put it in a nutshell, it's just what is currently trendy. It's the current thing. So progressive is anything old bad, anything new good, right? So somebody like me, I wouldn't necessarily define myself as a traditionalist, but I do like to look at tradition. And I define tradition as things that have worked over a long period of time, right? So all of these cultural experiments and political experiments that we've done that have worked over a long period of time. This is the sort of thing that I would like to look back at. For example, British common law worked over a long period of time, built great societies, even all of the colonies, helped them immensely.
11:53Even though everybody thinks that colonialism was a bad thing, I think that I would beg to differ. So I would look at all of these different traditions that we've got in purely the British context. you know, politeness and even the way that you guys dress and the high trust society, the cohesive society that's been built. And I would say, yeah, that's a good thing. And that's something that's been tested over time and it's old. Progressives, they think if it's old, it's bad. If it's new, it's good. So if we've got something that is tearing down the old infrastructure, that's inherently good. And so where does that actually lead to?
12:28There is no end point for progressives. Like with the traditionalists, we have something to look for, to look to, and we have something to ground ourselves in. But with progressives, it's just a constant battle against whatever is not new. And it's a never ending cycle. And this is why one week they'll have Ukraine in their bio, next week they'll have the gay in their bio, next week they'll have the Palestine in their bio, because it's just this cyclical worldview. And that's what progressivism is. Anything that sort of goes against the taboos. What do they call that? A purity spiral? I'm not sure if it's a purity spiral.
13:00I'll say it's more of like a degeneracy spiral, if I would say so myself. But the purity spiral generally tends to come from the right-wingers, actually. Like they think you get these sort of Protestant Christians. I find that these guys tend to purity spiral quite a lot. I'm on the same side of them about a lot of things. But, you know, if you're not Christ-like enough and if you swear and if you do this and that, then you're not sort of a good enough role model for Christians. And that just annoys the hell out of me because the way that I see it, when I'm seeing these sorts of things, we are in a war against progressives and we are in a war against leftism.
13:35And I don't see any other way besides that. And I want to absolutely destroy every single one of their conceptions about reality. And I want to destroy it in debate. I want to destroy it politically. There's nothing good about it. And that's the way that I view these things. So if I have to swear when I'm doing that, I'm going to swear. If I have to use an aggressive tone when I'm doing it, I'm going to use an aggressive tone. An all-new season of the Hulu Original Series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+. Four years ago, we were just making TikToks.
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14:55And we're back. Well, the good news is we welcome all of those things on this channel. They're like no holds barred. So if you want to let rip, then you absolutely fill your boots. So I want to know why you wanted to delve in to the rise of nationalism and also the different countries you've been going around in Europe. So you've interviewed your fair share of nationalist groups. So what have you seen that your average person isn't seeing when your boots on the deck speaking to these groups? Because a lot of people will just hear the word nationalist and just think Nazi. Yeah, well, that's the ironic part.
15:27So the one thing that I've taken away, and I kind of knew this inherently already about the tribal nature of humans, but when you go around and you actually speak to the different groups and when you sort of observe all these things, you realize just how tribal people really are. So, for example, when I'm interviewing these Spanish nationalists, they are not only at war with the progressives in their own city and with the infiltration of these different cultures, and the mass immigration. They're also at war with their own people. Like the Basque country up the north of Spain, they have got their own language.
16:01They've got their own sort of nationality. They think they're not a part of Spain. And same with the Catalonians as well, which is where Barcelona is and these places. So the tribalism just in and of the people of Spain itself is just crazy. There was a terrorist group in the north of Spain that killed a bunch of people. And they're the same people. but they still kill each other. The Catalonians want to be removed from Spain. The sort of Basque country want to be removed from Spain. So there's this conflict going on within the Spanish people themselves. And then they've got the African migrants coming in.
16:37But then more than the African migrants, they've got all these Latin American migrants coming in. So over a million Latin American migrants were given citizenship in Spain. So you look at that, and then I go to the gay parade, and I realize how tribal they are about their own group. and their own in-group preferences. So that would be one of the things that I would say has been like the starkest realisation for me is that the progressive worldview, the melting pot worldview, that we can all just come together and sing John Lennon's Imagine Together and hold hands and sail off into the sunset with this multicultural society is such a delusion that it should be a mental illness as far as I'm concerned.
17:15And how would you respond now that you've spoke to enough nationalist groups to know the difference between a racist and a non-racist, that word that gets thrown around far too often. The word racist is now rendered useless because it's been used far too much. It hasn't got that kick anymore. No one cares. It's almost like, yeah, whatever. But what would you say to people that think of nationalists as racists? Well, there are some racists, that's for sure. Insofar as I would define racism being hatred of another purely based upon their race, I would say that there are people who hold that sentiment and I would say that that's wrong because I've traveled enough to know that if I go to any different culture around the world, I can have some level of respect for them and their culture and certainly not hate them, but I respect their culture within the context of their culture.
18:02And this is your culture over here, the British culture, the Australian culture is the Australian culture. And when other cultures come in and try to infiltrate and subvert my culture, that's when I dislike those people and I dislike the thing that's going on. I don't hate the people. so if I'm somebody from Senegal right and they say to me listen you get in this car you go across the desert and then you go to Libya you're going to go to Europe you and your family are going to have a better life I'm going seven days a week I'm going every single time but it's not those people that I hate because I can completely understand why you'd want to make a better life for your family it is the governments and it's the political infrastructure that has allowed all that that I hate.
18:43And it's something that I even, you know, like just for example, went to a Turkish barber today. Great guy. We were having a chat about history and about all these sorts of things. And I was jabbing him saying that, you know, Istanbul is really Constantinople and it's all good. The other day I was watching the Argentina versus Egypt game and I was just sitting in the park and there was these three black guys and they were all having a drink and I was having a drink and there was a big screen. And I sat with them for like three hours and we're having a laugh and watching the game together. So I don't hate anybody because of their race, but it's a tough question that we have to actually contend with here.
19:14To what extent can we have other cultures coming into our culture and still maintain our culture? That's the problem here. It's not to say, well, anybody who comes in, I just hate that person because they're not like me. That's not what we're saying. I think reasonable people anyway, that's not what we're saying. It's that there's a rate in which you can bring in other cultures that they can assimilate and there's a rate in which you can't. And what we've got at the moment is we have people coming in at a rate which they cannot assimilate. And that's a big problem. And that's why people are calling for re-migration.
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20:15If you're serious about building something new for yourself, message Ryan on Instagram at RyanJB. And so what you've seen within these nationalist groups, what percentage would you say are just bonafide racists and just hate-fuelled compared to patriotic? They're more into preserving their culture than they are saving their own race. I couldn't put a number on it. I couldn't quantify it. But I would say the vast, vast majority of them are just patriotic. And they've seen their cultures around them being destroyed. And they want to get politically active. And then racism is sort of used as a pejorative, I would say.
20:54They would say, oh, these people are racist. These people are racist. And sort of what I said before was that I'm not denying that there are people who are just fueled by racism. I haven't really met any of them, if I'm totally honest. Like when I've sat down with them and actually spoken to them about their positions, they actually have very intelligent critiques of liberalism, of globalism, of multiculturalism and these sorts of things. But there would be some there, but I would say it's pretty minuscule. Is there a lot of fear in regards to the demographic replacement as well? Oh, yeah, 100%.
21:21I mean, like I said before, human beings are very tribal by nature and we prefer our in-group. I prefer my in-group. I like Australian culture. I like the fact that my grandpa used to be able to leave his doors unlocked of his car and he used to leave his keys in the ignition. And now his car gets stolen all the time. He needs to stop doing that. But I like the high trust society. And, you know, I don't mind democracy, for example. I think that it's essentially something that's destined to fail. But democracy, feminism, LGBTQ, all of these sorts of things, I don't necessarily mind that they exist.
21:57but I want them to be relegated to the fringes of society and to not be like the mainstream ideas and the only way in which we can actually have those sorts of people who are still you know you know we're not at war with them necessarily like we sort of still care for those people as our fellow citizens is if we live in a high trust society right and this is the high trust societies that I'm the high trust societies that I'm talking about are the ones that have come out of Christendom essentially when you have all these other cultures coming in all of a sudden you You can't have that high trust society and it becomes like the tribalism becomes so overt, if you know what I mean.
22:29Yeah. I mean, all these high trust societies are letting in untrustworthy people. Yeah. It's never, ever going to work. If, see these nationalist groups you've been speaking to, if let's say they had to present themselves and package themselves and sell themselves to the public, how do you think they would describe themselves, their ethos, their mission statement? It's funny because they're all quite different from what I've seen. So you get - Different countries. Yeah. Yeah. They're all quite different. So interestingly enough, I was speaking to the Spanish guys at Nucleo Nacional, and they have a very interesting way of viewing their cultural lineage, right?
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23:03So when I think about Christian Western cultures, I think about the societies that basically sprout out of Christendom, right? and these guys look back further than that at the pagan heritage and they say well you know we need to merge christianity with this pagan uh ethos because the pagans were great warriors like the vikings and all these sorts of people were great warriors and then the christians have this great moral sense and i found it very very interesting that they were looking back that far and that was something that i hadn't really encountered before and i'm still kind of i'm still kind of like grappling with that myself.
23:37I think the British are not as politically organized and maybe educated as some of the other Europeans, because perhaps the British haven't had all of the different tribalist sort of wars in their face, like the Spanish have, for example. They're always fighting against the Basque and against the Catalonians. And, you know, so the British, I'd say, are more, it's kind of hard to describe but when I went to Birmingham for example the British are so unbelievably like stifled by their government where they will get arrested by Facebook posts and everything that they're sort of like factionalized and you get a lot of these patriots who will come to the to the rally and who will be really pissed off and making social media content but perhaps not as as organized as an alt-right group as some of the Spanish guys are for example but I'd say that's probably to do with the censorship in Britain.
24:30Would you say that British nationalists are less radical than the Spanish nationalists, for example? In some ways, yes, and in some ways, no. So the Spanish nationals are actually probably more socially liberal than the British nationalists. I'd say the ideal form of British nationalism is like the Lotus Eater's guys. So Carl Benjamin, Conor Tomlinson, Charlie Downs, these sorts of guys. Very, very intelligent, sophisticated. They know how to politically organize. They're kind of a small group, but I'd say they're sort of like the media wing of the Restore Party. But they're very right wing. They're very based.
25:09Like Carl Benjamin, if you sit him down and you sort of examine what his political views are, same with Conor Tomlinson, they're pretty much as right wing as it gets these days. And to me they seem harmless. Yeah. Well, I think that they are harmless. I think they would do a lot of good if they had more political power in the country. The Spanish guys, I had a conversation with one of them who was not in the Nuclear National group. He was in another group. And he described some of the other guys as like a, he would say he agrees with them a lot, but there's a little bit of like Hollywood Nazism that goes on.
25:42And I found that an interesting term because it's sort of what the movies want Nazis to be. Well, you think they're playing up to their character? A little bit, a little bit. Sort of playing this role of this Hollywood Nazi. And look, I understand it from the sense of you can't tell us what to do. If we want to do a Roman salute, we're going to do a Roman salute. If we want to be a national socialist, we're going to be a national socialist. We're going to break down these taboos. We're going to just smash down that wall, smash down your taboos and your sacred cows and just march through it. I get that in a way.
26:12But also from my time in observing politics, optics is very important. What are you doing and how is it going to resonate with the public? Are you here to sort of like bash down walls or are you here to gain mass political support? And then in that sense, optics is very important. And this is where I think that the Lotus Eaters guys, for example, do a very good job because they're very based in their views. And I pretty much align with them on all the things that they believe as far as I can see. But optically, they're handsome young gents who have a show and a panel and they sit with their suits and they are doing a like sort of presenting a message that's palatable for the general public.
26:53More about the street nationals that you spoke to in Britain. How did they come across? Very patriotic. You know, I love those guys, honestly. You know, like English Ned. I hung out with him the whole day. Absolute legend. And I don't think that he would deny this, but like not exactly like a politically organized force. in the sense of he's going to go and run for office. But there's a place for people like that too. And I think that it's very important because what he's doing is going out and absolutely trashing these Marxist communists on the street, these liberals. And I love that. We need that because we should be making fun of them.
27:28We should be ridiculing them because these people are degenerates and they're destroying our society. So you can kind of put people into buckets, but they're all important. And Tommy Robinson is another one who he's a friend of mine. I don't agree with Tommy about everything. I think some of his views on the Israelis, for example, I would have a slightly different opinion on. But he is so necessary because he's been doing such great work over the past few decades in exposing grooming gangs. And we need that. So I think it's important to sort of view these different factions and what they're doing good and encourage what they're doing well and not try and jump down their throats and nitpick them about every little thing that you disagree with them about.
28:06I'll move on to Israel because I'm interested on your take on that whole Israel thing that's going on out there now. On the streets of the UK amongst the nationals, are you feeling a sense of more fear or fury? Probably fury, to be honest. Yeah. I mean, how much can you push people? Like I've got so much respect for these guys who get out to every protest because when I was there, I had Fred with me, right? I'm not a confrontational guy. Normally I'll go up and I'll try and have a debate and I'll try and, you know, pick these people's worldviews apart. But there was a massive group of these sort of armed Muslim guys, bandanas up, and they were looking for trouble.
28:46And it was clear. And then the next day after that, there was an article that someone had been stabbed in the square that we were at in Birmingham. And all these communists as well, and they're organized and they're paid and they'll assault you. They killed someone in France recently. By the way, the Antifa in France and Germany are militant groups compared to the UK, but that's another topic. But how much can you really take? If your government wants to lock you up for Facebook posts and if they want to import the whole third world on your taxpayer dime while you're seeing your quality of life constantly go down and then you see these militant communists, and that's what they are.
29:26They're militant, communists, gay race communists, whatever you want to call them, out in the streets being protected. But then if you have a slightly right wing view, all of a sudden off to jail for you. If if that is the way it is, then of course there are going to be people who are absolutely furious and who are going out on the streets and just demanding change. And so I've got a lot of respect for these guys who go out there and do that because they're putting themselves in harm's way. It may when you look at the Instagram posts, you may see all this police there or whatever. But I know for a fact that like if the wrong person had wanted to target us, wait till the protests off, send someone to follow us, wait to see where we go and then attack us, they could have.
30:05So they're in harm's way. But I think that the fury overrides the fear in that sense. What do you think about CivNets? The anyone could be British if they adopt our values idea. Do you think that's completely failed or do you think that's fair game? No, that's not fair game at the moment. No way. Yeah, no, British is like a British is defined by its people. So the British is like the Anglo-Saxon, the English, the Anglo-Saxons. And, you know, you don't necessarily have to 100 % be a pure blood British. You know, there's going to be some sort of cultural sort of change that happens over time. But, you know, if you're arriving yesterday from Bangladesh and all of a sudden you've got a passport and you're saying, I'm going to be as English as Billy over here.
30:51That's just completely untrue. There's no way that that can possibly happen. It's just an absolute delusion. So like I said before, there's going to be some sort of cultural change that happens over time, but it's just the rate in which it happens. If you have a very small amount of immigration that happens over a few generations and then people are a bit browner than you, but their parents and grandparents lived here, I've got no problem with that. I don't think anybody really had a problem with that until the flood walls broke, until the dam broke. and now it's basically anyone can be British.
31:22And the tribal nature of people is going to mean that people are going to fight back against that. So would you say that civic nationalism has failed? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, completely failed. On what metric? Well, civic nationalism, if you just want to say that basically it's about like a constitution and if you follow a certain set of ideals and then if those ideals, if you're sort of trying to like embody those ideals and then you're British, well, I mean, then what would be the argument against then there being a total, like you could bring in anybody. Like, for example, if you open up the borders to Indians and Sri Lankans and Pakistanis and you said no more borders, if you guys come in here and if you like our way of life, then you're British.
32:04In 100 years when everybody's, like when nobody's an Anglo-Saxon, would that still be Britain? Like in a sense, if you have the high trust society and the slow bleed of immigrants, then sure, You can have like they can eventually be English in a sense, I guess, but it just depends on the rate. And at the moment, what we're seeing is that the rate is something that the society can't handle and you're going to be culturally replaced. And I think England actually might become a Muslim country eventually. So at that point, it's just not England anymore. I'd be very surprised if it doesn't become a Muslim country.
32:38Yeah. I mean, how can it not? And they're outbreeding us and coming in by the bucket load without any policing whatsoever. So as you say that, so you're on the nationalist side. Yeah, for sure. Because the civic nationalism that you've got in Britain, I mean, like what civics are you actually adhering to, though? Like what is the British civics that these people think that they're adhering to? And if you do have Sharia courts all over the UK, like is that British civic nationalism? Should that be on the civics test about what happens with cousin marriage and everything? or are we talking about foundational British ideals here?
33:14Yeah, where's the line? Yeah, eventually it becomes something else. So even if you do say I'm a civic nationalist, well, the goalposts of what it means to be a British civic nationalist eventually will be moved until it becomes an Islamic Sharia country. I mean, where does it end? I suspect a lot of civic nationalists are actually probably more ethno-nationalists, but they probably don't want to put their hands up and say it just yet. But I'd imagine that their thought process and their own ideology, through no fault of their own, has been shifted further, right? Because it's completely out of control now.
33:48We are going to be replaced. I mean, if anyone's still thinking now that we're not, they must have had their head in the sand for the last 10 years, at least. It's now noticeable. Any town you go to in the UK, you can see that there is a demographic change. and it's just getting more and more broader and broader across the country and more obvious as to what that demographic change is. Yeah, and there's some strange alliances going on as well. You've got the British Muslims who will generally tend to vote left-wing and who will try and pose as some sort of a progressive, I'd say, but it's like the enemy of my enemy is my friend type of situation going on here.
34:27Until they're not. Yeah, exactly. And the progressives are just so stupid. that they will look at that and they'll be like, yeah, yeah, we want to free Palestine. You want to free Palestine? Like I had a debate with a guy at the Birmingham protest and he was a leftist. And he said to me, well, do you believe that, you know, Palestine is a big issue? And I said, look, I can acknowledge the injustice that's happened to the Palestinian people. But then you can look at the movements throughout the Western world and realize that they're being co-opted. if I think that all of these leftist gay race communists are genuinely just so, you know, for Palestine, that's their sort of life's cause.
35:05I don't believe that shit. Every time you go to a Palestine march in the UK, you're going to see gay flags. And it's so contradictory that it's just, it baffles the mind. And this guy was saying to me, well, you know, it's actually like intersectionality. You know, they believe that they've been oppressed and that the gays have been oppressed. And this is just sort of like a global struggle against the white man. And I I thought to myself, you are just like, as soon as that sort of like Islamic state takes over, you're the first one to go. And ironically, the only thing that's holding you up, the only thing that's protecting you is the right wing nationalists.
35:38Because without them and the people's, without the sort of people who are acting as the bulwark against that sort of mass flooding of the culture, you're screwed. So they're the ones who are protecting you. An all new season of the Hulu original series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney+.
36:18And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's jar something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The certified fresh series returns. You're a boss. You always like this? Or is this just an act? Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! There is a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. So before we go back to where I wanted to take it, I want you to, how would you describe Israel to me as a state?
36:57Would you say there was a country that are dealing with Islamists, sort of creating the blueprint as how you deal with Islamists to show the rest of the world that you cannot show weakness to Islamists or you're gone? Or is there a lot more to it? Well, I mean, yeah, it's not like my field of expertise myself, but I think that it's the proper position to take to not support either of them, because I believe in Western Christian culture, and I don't believe that Israel is a part of Western Christian culture. I think that Jewish people throughout history have been a diaspora people, and they're also a very tribal people in and of themselves.
37:35And traditionally, if you look back throughout the history of Jewish and Christian relations, it hasn't been a very friendly one, to say the least. They've been kicked out of many different Christian countries. And basically, if you look at the formation of Israel from the early 20th century, after World War I, the Balfour Declaration was conceived of, which was essentially the Jewish people being promised their homeland by Lord Balfour, English guy, because obviously the land of Palestine at the time was an English protectorate. And then in 1948, it becomes Israel after much conflict within the region because you've got militant Jewish groups, all sorts of terrorist attacks, even on the British as well.
38:21And they're fighting with the Arabs. They're fighting with the British. Eventually, it gets promised to them totally. Obviously, this is like a long story short, but you also have a lot of migration into Western countries. So you have a lot of early Jewish migration from Eastern Europe into America because of the pogroms that were happening at the time. And then obviously after the Holocaust as well, you have a lot of migration there. And then what happens is they start to have a lot of influence and control over the institutions of the United States, for example. So Jewish people have a massive influence in Hollywood, in banking, in politics, and they also have a massive influence in Protestant Christianity in America.
39:02So this idea of Christian Zionism is just – it's a totally retarded idea, by the way. So Protestant Christianity in America is the strongest form of Christianity and then Catholic and then Orthodox. You know, guys like Charlie Kirk, for example, big Christian Zionist, you know, always saying we have to bless, we have to bless the Jews, we have to bless the Jews. And then this is sort of how the Israelis, the Jewish Israelis and the Americans become these strange bedfellows. Whereas the Catholic and the Orthodox Church historically don't have the same relationship with the Jews. This is something that sort of sprouted up out of Protestant American Christianity.
39:44I don't know if I'm rambling a bit too much here but you've got the Schofield Bible which is basically a rewriting of the Bible that tells Protestant Americans that they have to bless Israel and that they have to bless the Jews and that this is how they'll be blessed by God so a lot of infiltration there banking, Protestantism, media as well that has formed this relationship over time between the Americans and the Israelis and then eventually the Americans as far as I can tell go into these Middle Eastern wars and fight on the behalf of the Israelis. I don't see a massive vested interest from America if they were being wise about it, spent trillions of dollars.
40:22And after all, the only ones who really seem to benefit from it, in my estimation, are the Israelis. The Middle East hasn't benefited. The Americans haven't benefited. The West hasn't benefited. Only Israel. Yeah, let's take England and America as an example because, in fact, let's just stick with England as an example here. I mean, we are in such a shit state because I'm a podcast host. I have to have a broad spectrum of what's going on, who's talking about what subject matter. But for me, really, it's England first all day long. This is my motherland. So I love the country that I live in, that I was born in, that I want to stay in and fight for.
40:55So for me, it's no, but England first. And really, if there wasn't so much noise around me, I probably would think, well, that's I can't control that. So I'm just going to focus on the problem at hand. But why do you think even though England is in such bad shape at the moment, You still have your average Joes laser focused on Israel, laser focused. Why do you think that is? For a multitude of reasons, but that's essentially the political, religious, cultural center of the world. If you really look at it, I mean, Jerusalem itself, they believe that that's the birthplace of Jesus Christ. The Jews believe that that's the place in which they want to build the third temple.
41:31And then their Messiah will rule over the third temple. and in the exact same spot, the Muslims have the Al-Aqsa Mosque there, which is their third most holy site in all of Islam. So there is just like this sort of war of the worlds sort of tension constantly going on in that place. And so obviously that's going to be the seedbed of much sort of political tension as well, many wars and everything. So I guess that's sort of where it comes from, if I had to say. It's just that sort of like spiritual tension that's always happening in that area of the world between the three different Abrahamic religions.
42:09But then it's interesting because the one place in which much of the alt-right and the left will sort of agree will be overt Zionist influence in the Western world. And the left are always criticizing the US government and the Western governments for their sort of submission to Israeli Zionists. and then the alt-right will sort of criticize them for the same thing. So probably because there's a linking of hands, I'd say obviously what's happening in Gaza at the moment is a big story. Now, do I think that that's the worst thing happening in the world at the moment? Close in terms of the death toll and everything that's happened.
42:49But also if you look at Nigeria, they've had tens of thousands of Christian Nigerians that have been slaughtered over the last few years, all by Boko Haram, but this is black-on-black violence. So, I mean, much of the left kind of view Israelis as white people because they've also got that allegiance to Western countries as well. So they view this as some sort of like a Western imperialism and that they're picking on the poor brown people when I wouldn't consider Jews, Israelis white. I would consider them their own sort of tribal people, Semites, if you will. They kind of look the Israel, because have you been to Israel?
43:21No. Yeah, I went there last year. I mean, the streets of London was dominated with pro-Palestine marches and conflicts. I mean, for two years, week after week, Hamas flags being flown in the air. So I thought, if I get an opportunity, I'm going to go out there and I'm going to have a little look for myself. So I've done that. And you're quite right. Palestinians and Israelis, sometimes you can't even tell them apart. I mean, like I said before, the correct position is to not side with either of these people, because this is essentially like a multi-thousand year old blood feud that's happening in Middle Eastern sand.
43:53and we, like me as an Australian, you as a British, shouldn't necessarily have a dog in that fight because neither of them represent us and what we want. This is a foreign conflict that we're being dragged into. And just so you're mindful of this, if you ever do visit Israel, that's your card marked. You'll be a Zionist forever on X. Yeah, I would love to go. I mean, it's the birthplace of Jesus Christ. Fascinating place. Yeah, I would love to go. Fascinating place. one of the most interesting trips I've ever took. I mean, all the politics and bullshit aside, again, Australia, England, we're fucked at the moment.
44:31So we really should be concentrating on our own people and not getting into spending hours arguing with somebody about fucking Israel. It's like, really, I don't care. I care about England at the moment because this is where my fucking children and family is. These are the people that I'm trying to protect. And you know that the media are branding nationalists, far right, alt right, you know, a danger to society. Do you think that's because they fear the rise of nationalism? 100%. And anything to do with nationalism, like the whole liberal globalist world order is a revolt against nationalism.
45:00So they believe that if they import the third world and they create this sort of multicultural melting pot, then you can't have a nationalist movement. They fear essentially Nazi Germany rising up again. Some sort of a culturally homogenous people group that says, you know, we're being sort of oppressed in X and Y way and we're going to sort of rise up and create some extreme nationalist movement. That's their ultimate fear. So after World War II, they got together and they formulated plans in which they were going to make sure that that could never happen again. And so they came up with, I guess, liberalism as we know it today and the European Union and this sort of multicultural society where there isn't enough of like a German or Italian or English contingent to actually rise up and create a nationalist movement that could do what they did in World War II.
45:51You see a lot of these groups you've been interviewing. Did you get into the weeds of it to a point where you would say, okay, so if there is someone who is genuinely unhinged that wants to carry out a fucking, let's just say, a far-right terror attack, how they would deal with that and how they police that? Because in every group you're going to get your lunatic. Not that I'm comparing nationalists to Islamists, by the way. This is just a kind of blue sky question. If you know how they would deal with maniacs within their own circle and how do they police that? I'm not really too sure how they police that, to be honest.
46:25It's kind of unpoliceable, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, you can have your own ethos, but the way that the Spanish guys, for example, portrayed themselves was as radical nationalists. So they were saying we've got all these different ideologies that fall within the bracket of what we're trying to do, which is a right-wing nationalist movement. So if we call ourselves national socialists, then there are people who don't fall within that. If we call ourselves Christian nationalists, there are people who don't fall within that. So we're radical nationalists. So you're going to get a diverse range of different viewpoints within that movement.
46:57And I don't really know how they police that. I did ask them how they view political violence. And they said we're pacifists. So we believe – sorry, they said we're not pacifists. So we believe that offensive political violence is bad, but defensive political violence is okay. If people want to attack us, then we have to defend ourselves. And when you hear that, you think, okay, yeah, well, that's fair enough. but then when you think about it for a second like what does it mean to be attacked does it mean all of the the invasion that's happening does it mean the mass migration and does that then mean that that gives you grounds to attack back um it's a little bit ambiguous when you think about it but they generally describe themselves as um pacifists when it comes to offensive political violence so um i'm not i'm not 100 sure and the the pagan thing as well sort of did pique my interest a little bit because, you know, the pagan cultures were very offensive in the way in which they sort of seized land and everything, the Vikings from the English, for example.
47:56And Christians are pacifists, essentially. Like we're not pacifists in the sense that we would never defend ourselves. I mean, i.e. the Crusades, Battle of Vienna, but mixing the pagan thing in there, that's the one thing that got me thinking a little bit because I'm all for the Crusades, by the way. And I'm all for the pushing back of the Ottomans out of Europe. I think that that was some of the greatest things that ever happened in history. But I do wonder what the line is there in terms of when you become defensively violent. Again, I'm all for defensive political violence. I'll put that on record, no problem.
48:35Words are ideal. But if you come to me with political violence, then I've got no choice. and I can't see how anybody would argue with that, but there will be people that argue with that. But then again, you know, a lot of people are quite happy to see somebody curl up in a ball and get the shit kicked out of them if it doesn't affect them. I mean, that's another mad thing that's going on all over the West now. The amount of attacks that I see, like really, really violent, on women even, even men approaching children. I saw a video recently where a fully grown man, a migrant as well, You can see he wasn't born here, hasn't been here long, can't speak the English.
49:11He's with a crowd of children. And people are just recording it. Why on earth aren't people getting more involved? Do you think there's more cowardice in the West now than before? Reaching for your phone rather than grabbing the guy that's attacking somebody. I mean, you know when in Ireland that guy had the bloke on the floor and he's just hacking away his face, slitting his throat. It took ages for somebody to hit him in the head with a spade or whatever it was he hit him in the head with. I mean, for me, I know for a fact I've been in situations where I'm in. No impulse control. Someone's in danger.
49:44I'm in. But it seems now a lot of people are sort of too scared to even interject to save someone now. This is around the board, though. Like, I think young people are kind of retarded these days, to be honest. And these are normally the ones who are going to grab their phones and older people as well. But we've lost our sense of morality and camaraderie in the modern world completely. completely like i see young people all the time who are there um on a train for example an old lady walks on and they don't give her the seat and for me that's baffling i'm like there's an old lady like help her to the seat and give her your seat outrageous yesterday i was at a cafe and there was an old lady who started walking up the stairs i like gave her my arm and walked her to the stairs gave her my table and everything and people were looking around like oh wow like what a gentleman i'm like that's isn't that just completely normal should be standard yeah um and And if somebody's in trouble, you help them out, this sort of thing.
50:35But I think that we're so detached from each other these days. Like we have this social media sort of world that we live in where people aren't even seen as humans anymore to us. They're just seen as other things. And we communicate with each other digitally. And then human interaction. Like do you ever meet young people these days and you try and shake their hand and they don't look at you and they give you this little sort of like jellyfish handshake? and you hear stories about people trying to hire young people and they're on their phones all the time and everything. I honestly think that social media has a lot to do with this, that we just don't know how to interact with humans anymore.
51:12And one of the byproducts of that is that instead of viewing that from a human lens, I should help, we view it from the social media lens. This will go viral. So it's bizarre to me. I mean, I'm only 30, but still, for me, it's weird. That's a very good answer, by the way. and everything you said, I totally and utterly agree. We are so disconnected from each other. And we all sort of think that our surroundings are Hollywood. Like this is one big stage and there's a bit of action over there, like you say, that will go viral. So yeah, how about saving that person's life? Surely that's got to be more important than your fucking likes and shares.
51:48Insane. And you say about young people being stupid these days. Is there a rise amongst the youth with nationalism or is it more middle-aged or older? I think it's like a fork in the road. honestly, as far as I've seen. So if you meet a young person these days who reads a little bit and who has decent interpersonal skills, they are just so far above their peers. Like it's such an important skill to have interpersonal skills and to have a little bit of knowledge and everything and to sort of know why you believe what you believe, just maybe some basic stuff. You can get so far ahead. So there are a lot of young people who have come up maybe through the sort of Reddit and Discord.
52:25And I guess these young people who have been memeing and they're a little bit right-wing, alt-right, and they are interested in politics and they're interested in culture and these sorts of things. And you meet them and they're often quite intelligent. This guy who I interviewed at the Spanish clubhouse, he was 19 and he was freaking smart. He was like next level smart. And I'm thinking to myself, man, you've got a bright future ahead of you because the competition is so low. But then on the other side, the other fork in the road is the TikTok generation, people who are just mindlessly scrolling through everything all the time.
52:57And generally, these people tend to have more of a left-wing worldview, especially if they're oddballs. Like if you're an oddball these days, back in my day when I was at school, it was, they were anorexic or they were doing some sort of a weird social, they were goths, you know, but now they're trans, you know, they're different gender and they're LGBTQ and all these sorts of things. So we've got this sort of a fork in the road happening with young people. And I think it's politically as well. You've got the TikTok generation who are just sort of mindlessly sort of floating into this left wing worldview.
53:29A lot of them having weird sort of trans stuff going on. And then you've got the sort of based alt-right sort of young people who are going down that sort of pipeline. and it's interesting to me and also it reflects in politics because we're seeing left-wing economic populism through Mamdani for example it's big in the UK as well left-wing economic populism you've got Navarro and these media companies in the UK and young people are thinking yeah we should you know tax the rich and redistribute all the wealth and that will solve all of our problems and then you've got the other side that are like actually I don't like my culture being torn apart maybe you know economics isn't everything and we should look a little bit more at culture and tradition and ethnicity and these sorts of things.
54:13So as far as I can see, it's just splintering and, um, choose your, choose your path wisely, young Western man. An all new season of the Hulu original series, the secret lives of Mormon wives is now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney plus four years ago, we were just making Tik TOKs, but it feels like there are no friendships left in mom talk. You act like you're better than everyone. You're not. I can't trust anyone in this group. She's just dead to me. There's so much the public doesn't know. Watch the new season of the Hulu original series, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, now streaming on Hulu and Hulu on Disney Plus for bundle subscribers.
54:49Terms apply. And we're back. Streaming on Peacock. May I present to you the award-winning staff of the Toledo Truth Teller. Slap me. Let's draw something loose. Ay, yes! I like that. The certified fresh series returns. You're a boss. You always like this, or is this just an act? Oh no, this is mad. Oysters, everybody! How to have a heart! There's a certain satisfaction when you work with someone. Maybe we could be a family. You sadistic pig! The Paper. New season streaming September 9th, only on Peacock. This show gives me a reason to laugh. Yeah, do you think mass migration is the main driver for nationalism or is it something deeper than that?
55:26Oh, yeah, no, it's mass migration. For sure, for sure. I mean, you just have to look around. You just get constantly gaslit by the media who will say everything's going just fine and then you literally walk out of your house and in Australia, for example, If you're in a big city, you're just surrounded by all of these Indians and they're dumping their rubbish on the road and they're not culturally cohesive and they form cultural enclaves and they do work for absolute minimum labor and then live with eight of them in one bedroom. And you're like, well, actually, no, I can see in front of my face what's going on.
55:57It's not just me being a racist or whatever it is. Economics plays a part. But like if the economy is booming, for example, if it's humming, then people aren't going to worry so much because their own quality of life is personally better. But you can't have mass migration from the third world and cheap consumerist culture that is conducive with a humming economy and everything going just great and high trust cultural cohesion. Those two things just don't happen. So a lot of the times the leftists will say, well, you're just blaming migrants for everything. It's actually economics that's the problem.
56:32But migrants are a major factor in causing the economic problems that's making people turn around and be like, my life sucks. What is going on here? And that's the logical conclusion. Yeah. People say the only thing holding back real nationalism in Britain is the fact that British people are too polite and also they're too scared of being called racist. Yeah. Would you agree after having a look at these groups that there's probably more nationalists than they'd like to think or admit? Oh, as in like the British public. Yeah. Oh man, everywhere I go. I was around Hackney the other day and I was just having a few beers and even the black guys that I was hanging around with, they had some common sense and they were talking about all of the youth violence and the problems being caused by this.
57:15And these guys are old school Hackney OGs, you know, they're like, they're like real ones. And they were telling me about how, how, how shit it is and all like the migration and all of the different knife crime. And then I was at another table at the place I used to work and I was sitting with an Indian guy from South Africa and a Polish guy and they were telling me the exact same thing. And I'm in Hackney Wick. This is like the hub of wokeness. And I get talking to a few random people and they pretty much hold the same views as I do. So the idea that the silent majority is just nationalists, but for whatever personal reasons that they've got, they don't really want to express that.
57:51I think that that's pretty accurate. But you do also have a lot of lefties out there too, unfortunately. Yeah, how have you found the lefties since you've been in the UK? I kind of feel sorry for them in a way because they're so unbelievably delusional. And after a while, it's like, how do you maintain your worldview as you see it crumble around you every day, as the videos, the barrage of videos sort of come in online about young people being, about like young women being raped by migrants and young people being killed by migrants and all of the violence going on in the streets and the, you know, cost of living and these people being afforded five-star luxury hotels when you're struggling to put food on the table.
58:34How do you just ignore the problem constantly? How dug in, how much of a sunk cost must you have to just constantly ignore it? And I feel sorry for them because honestly, like it must be difficult holding that worldview and having to contend with reality all the time. No, totally. What do you think nationalists fear the most? I know they're courageous compared to most, but what do you think they fear the most? Cultural replacement is the thing that they fear the most. The idea that your people group is going to go extinct because that is actually the logical conclusion of what's happening. Logical conclusion of mass migration at the scale that we've got at the moment is total demographic and cultural replacement to the point where we're not any longer a Christian country.
59:21if you're speaking about Britain, for example. This is no longer a Christian country. This is no longer a predominantly English, Anglo-Saxon country. And it becomes something completely different. And I think that British people are reasonable in saying that they believe that their culture is one of the greatest, if not the greatest, that's ever existed. And it would be a real shame for that to go away. And a lot of these people have children and will have grandchildren, and they want to see their children and grandchildren have access to the same culture and the same opportunities that they and their grandparents had.
59:53And for everything you've seen, this is in regards to Europe, would you say it was more worried or more hopeful as to where it's heading? There's certainly hope there in the sense that the reason why I'm doing this series is because I believe that Europe is the frontier in the world in terms of small, organised, grassroots political movements that are returning to some sort of tradition and nationalism. And yes, they're coming in all shapes and forms, but the underlying premise of all of these different movements is something along the lines of looking around at the modern world, at multiculturalism, at wokeism, at cultural Marxism, at mass consumerism, at social media and internet porn and all of these degenerate things and being like, there's something greater than this.
1:00:38You know, there might be in the form of a higher power. It might be in the form of ethnicity and people group. But the underlying premise is a rejection of modernity and looking at the modern world and saying, this isn't it. There has to be more than this. And looking at tradition and saying, well, how did our ancestors do it? Why did these civilizations work for so long? Why was their life so much better than ours? Obviously not in terms of modern luxuries, but in terms of morality and ethics and the way that the culture basically thrived. So that's the underlying premise there. And it's happening all around Europe.
1:01:13And I see this as very hopeful, but the means in which you get to the desired outcome is what makes me a little bit pessimistic. Because you look at Trump, for example, in the United States, in order to deport people, he basically nearly incited a civil war, not him personally because I believe he was doing the right thing. But the way in which they mobilized these left-wing forces, very organized left-wing forces, Antifa, for example, all funded by billionaires from China. Ironically, they're all against the billionaires, but then they're all funded by Neville Singham, this Chinese billionaire who's funding all of these different left-wing movements.
1:01:55And I went through it on stream one day and just how it works, how his funding network basically funds all of these anti-ice riots and anti-US riots and the Black Lives Matter and everything, all funded by billionaires. These people are basically just useful idiots. They're pawns in a game. And so Trump tries to deport people who are illegal immigrants. In many cases, they are human traffickers. They're criminals of various different varieties coming from places like Venezuela or El Salvador. that every single one of them who's crossed over illegally is a criminal because that is a criminal offense coming over the border illegally because that's why they're called illegal immigrants.
1:02:36And so just to deport those people, Trump nearly had a civil war on his hands because these people were mobilizing in little militia groups all around the city and basically trying their absolute hardest to get in these ICE officers' faces and make them do something. And a few times the ICE officers did kill a few of these protesters. You might have seen Renee Good and Alex Preddy, these people. And when that happens, boom. That's what they want. They want the ICE officers to kill people so that they can go around and then burn the cities down. That's the level he faced to just be deporting a few thousand people really.
1:03:14Now think about that on the scale of Europe and how progressive Europe is, places like Spain and England with all these left-wing governments. think about the level of resistance that there would be if an actual remigration sort of process was undertaken. It would cause immense, immense pain and suffering. So the means in which you get there, that's what I worry about. And if it's actually feasible. So can you see a civil war? Oh, yeah. I think if, look, Rupert Lowe is a little bit more on the classical liberal side than I would probably like. He's a little bit, he loves his Austrian economics, for example, and he's a little bit more old school than I would say some of the nationalists.
1:03:57Like I would consider myself a Christian nationalist rather than an ethnic nationalist. I think ethnicity is not nothing, but it's not everything, basically. But anyway, it's a different point. But Rupert Lowe, do I think that he's going to enact the remigration process that is necessary in the UK? I think Farage was a stepping stone for him. who will be a stepping stone for potentially somebody else in the future. But if the UK doesn't do something soon, then you guys are gone. And you walk around any main city in the UK around Birmingham and all you've got is Muslims trying to convert people with their little stands everywhere.
1:04:33All you have is cultural replacement happening absolutely everywhere. And so the civil war, I think, is inevitable. But speaking about at scale, it could be small. It could be big, but it's inevitable because there's a clash of cultures and a civilization that's happening here. But, yeah, I do worry about the means by which that happens. Just recap my audience on the work you're currently doing and then where people can find you and the work that you're doing. So my YouTube channel is called Rattlesnake TV. And for the most part, I'm a debate analyst. So I'll just analyze various different debates that are happening.
1:05:14it's uh you know sometimes it's basically just me taking the piss and you know it's entertainment but the other half it's serious debate analysis and if you want to learn how to debate and if you want to learn how to pick out logical fallacies and if you want to learn how to basically crush leftists then it might be a good place for you to go and at the moment i'm doing a different series called reality based where i'm going around europe and potentially the world eventually and interviewing different nationalist movements that are rising up and also going to the different degenerate left-wing protests that are happening too.
1:05:45And that's my series that I'm doing at the moment. So if you guys want to check it out, Rattlesnake TV. My website is rattlesnake tv.com and that's where all of the uncensored stuff is. So I've got to censor everything heavily for YouTube, but if you want totally raw, not sure if it's going to be a good viewing experience for the Spain video, but rattlesnake tv.com. Oh shit. Yeah. So you'll, you'll post that video without it being blurred. You'll just say this is the reality of what we spoke about right at the beginning of this interview. Yep. Okay. Well, I will put Jake's links in the description, as I always do, for you to fill your boots.
1:06:20Like and subscribe to the channel, please, so I can keep bringing on guests like Jake that the mainstream simply won't because of the subject matters that they're prepared to speak about. Go the extra mile. And, yeah, keep doing what you're doing, man. And I'll keep an eye on you. And above all, stay safe. Appreciate it, Liam. Thanks for having me.
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