British Patriots MUST Fight Tyranny | How Tommy Robinson Inspired a Nation: Don Keith

5 Oct 2025 · 1 h 2 min · 24 chapters

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In short

Don Keith, a U.S. Christian constitutional conservative, argues that Britain (the “bellwether for the West”) is being undermined by “tyranny,” uncontrolled immigration, socialism/Marxism, and Islam-influenced governance; he presents Tommy Robinson as a “patriot” who helps victims when police and councils won’t.

Guest backgrounds

Don Keith is from Baxley, South Georgia; engineering degree (Georgia Southern); later moved to Nashville and entered politics. He says he followed Tommy Robinson for about 10 years, first after seeing videos of Robinson confronting Muslim men, and later joined him on a UK trip.

Key claims

Britain lacks a binding constitution; “hate speech” is subjective; socialism is “mathematically impossible”; digital IDs and political prosecutions are steps toward communism; immigration is orchestrated for money, votes, and labor; Trump can’t be bought and shows borders can be shut (claims: U.S. migrants/day from ~10,000 to zero).

Notable examples

Chris Donnelly’s family vigil blocked until Tommy Robinson intervened; Wells/Canethaly hotel protests against planned immigrant influx; claims about Sharia courts, Muslim mayors in London boroughs, and Starmer’s alleged “deep entryism” roots.

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Addressing Current Issues

0:55 to 1:59

Discuss pressing social and political issues such as racism, immigration, and socialism.

“These three Muslims went out actually looking for a white Christian boy to murder.”

Introduction of Don Keith

2:20 to 2:48

Get to know Don Keith, his background, and his connection to politics.

“I hope you enjoy this week's episode, and good health.”

Reflections on Charlie Kirk

2:48 to 4:17

Reflect on the legacy and impact of Charlie Kirk and the challenges faced in political discourse.

“I'm really just a small town boy from a small town in South Georgia, a little town called Baxley.”

Connection to England

4:17 to 6:00

Explore the emotional ties Don has to England and its cultural significance to Americans.

“We're the peaceful lot, as you guys would say, out here trying to do it right, trying to, you know, talk some sense into folks.”

How Don Met Tommy Robinson

6:00 to 7:37

Learn about the chance encounter and growing friendship between Don and Tommy Robinson.

“But, you know, the way I got here, if you want to know the truth, is a very strange coincidence, man.”

Tommy Robinson's Activism

7:37 to 9:30

Discuss Tommy Robinson's activism and his role in addressing issues faced by communities.

“And so he and I had communicated a couple of times on Parler and not much more than that.”

The Chris Donald Case

9:30 to 12:12

Delve into the story of Chris Donald and the significance of his family's vigil.

“We spoke with him with a horrific story there as well.”

Tommy Robinson's Impact on Communities

12:12 to 14:02

Understand how Tommy Robinson becomes a go-to figure for communities in distress.

“You need to keep them all from coming over until you sort it out and figure out how to better vet your migrants.”

Comparing American and British Optimism

14:02 to 19:01

Explore the differences in optimism between American and British cultures and how government influences this perspective.

“The one the one of the things I noticed between your culture and mine is the optimism.”

The Role of Islam and Immigration in UK Politics

19:26 to 28:00

Discuss how rising immigration and Islam influence British politics and society, examining historical and political implications.

“Did you see that our Home Secretary got sworn into Parliament on the Koran?”
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The Concept of Deep Entryism

28:00 to 29:23

Explore the idea of deep entryism and its implications in UK politics.

“It was called deep entryism is what it was called.”

Critique of Socialism's Feasibility

29:23 to 31:01

Discuss the challenges and failures of socialism as evidenced by historical examples.

“I mean look at what just happened to Venezuela.”

Rising Authoritarianism and Control

31:01 to 33:10

Analyze the role of government control and digital IDs in the rise of authoritarianism.

“and now they're talking about rolling out digital IDs.”

The Media's Role in Propaganda

33:10 to 34:37

Investigate how corporate interests influence media narratives and public perception.

“And that's when these insidious socialist fucking policies start creeping in because you didn't even see it coming.”

Political Puppetry and Control

34:37 to 36:11

Examine the concept of political puppets and the true power dynamics at play.

“Do you see how incestuous the whole relationship is, why news networks aren't really promoting the news anymore?”

Emerging Awareness and Community Spirit

36:11 to 37:38

Highlight the growing awareness among citizens and the importance of community action.

“with Unite the Kingdom it's like well they don't care about us The people either side don't care about us, so we've got to start caring about each other.”

Trump's Influence and Controversies

37:38 to 39:26

Discuss Trump's unique position in politics and his perceived independence.

“You and I could sit here and talk for hours, and we could talk for hours about why this whole thing is all about money.”

Immigration Policies and Political Promises

39:26 to 42:00

Analyze the complexities of immigration policy and the effectiveness of political promises.

“But I believe that Trump is making the decisions.”

Reform and Immigration Policies

42:00 to 43:50

A discussion on the need for political reform and immigration policy in the UK.

“But let's move to reform because we're desperate for people to stop inviting them.”

The Future of Political Leadership

45:15 to 50:38

Exploration of current political figures and the need for strong leadership in the UK.

“Not only did they get 32 ,000 members in their first two months, they got the endorsement of Elon Musk, the richest man in the world in the first two months.”

Accountability in Politics

50:38 to 56:00

The importance of accountability in political leadership and the impact of statements on public perception.

“with someone like me so that you can explain to the working class in working class language, I haven't forgotten about you.”

The Need for Accountability in Governance

56:00 to 1:01:51

Discussing the importance of accountability from government officials and the implications of current political issues.

“I want accountability within parliament, and I want the people to be noticed and heard and taken notice of because they're there to serve us.”

Reflections on Violence and Crime

1:01:51 to 1:03:48

Examining recent violent incidents and the judicial failures that allow such crimes to occur.

“But before I ask you the final question, which will be more of a chirpy one, where can people find you?”

A Call to Action for British Patriots

1:03:48 to 1:04:23

Encouraging listeners to rise against tyranny and support movements for freedom in Britain.

“Tommy Robinson in the past, it's all a lie.”
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0:47They're waiting for you. The crispy chicken crunch wrap slider, a brand new classic, is back. Only at Taco Bell. They're swinging machetes in the street. These three Muslims went out actually looking for a white Christian boy to murder. Transgender nonsense, mutilating their bodies, bringing immigrants that hate you into your country, immigrants that don't want to assimilate. Our national flag is considered a symbol of racism. We get accused of the racism. We get accused of the fascism. You say something they don't like, they're murdering you. She was killed because she was white. Socialism can never work.

1:19It's mathematically impossible. It's just a dream. Collectivism over individualism, restriction of private property rights, redistribution of wealth. We've got infrastructure problems. We've got immigration problems. We've got homeless veterans. We're$35 trillion in debt. Ben Habib right now, he's not pulling any punches. Old Nigel might have been the answer. When Nigel comes out here and says, we're not going to deport all immigrants, it's an impossibility, can't be done. Well, hold on a minute. Let me look over here across the ocean. 10 ,000 per day went to zero. And you're telling me it can't be done?

1:47Did you see that our Home Secretary got sworn into Parliament on the Koran?

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2:37The Michigan twist. Yeah. Well, you've flown in from Michigan, so you've come a long way for this, which is beautiful. Just give my audience a little bit of an introduction and background. Who is Don Keith? Sure. I'm really just a small town boy from a small town in South Georgia, a little town called Baxley. We've got two stoplights. Everybody knows everyone. Church on Sundays, hunting and fishing. That's the way I grew up. Small town. Left home at about 18. Went to college. Got an engineering degree. Graduated from Georgia Southern University in the state of Georgia. And when I got out, I moved to Nashville, Tennessee.

3:14I lived there for probably most of my adult life using my degree. And, you know, then I got in politics and the rest is history. So maybe I should have stayed in the engineering field. Yeah, getting into politics comes with a whole load of headaches and enemies, for that matter, as we've just seen with poor Charlie Kirkmay, rest in peace. Yeah, God, it's so sad, man. It's hard to really even talk about what an amazing guy he was, man. He was just a guy. He was a guy who was doing it the right way, Liam. He was, you know, they talk about so much the hatred on the left and the right and the way people do it.

3:53Charlie was doing it the right way. He was providing a platform and a way for people to debate. He was providing a way for us to have that public discourse without the violence. And he was so gracious to those who disagreed with him. He always preached about peace and love, freedom. He talked about Christ. You know, he identified as a Christian more than anything, and they killed him for it. So that's kind of what we're up against. You know, we're out here. We're the peaceful lot, as you guys would say, out here trying to do it right, trying to, you know, talk some sense into folks. And, you know, we get accused of the racism.

4:29We get accused of the fascism. Yet they're shooting you. If you say something they don't like, they're murdering you. Yeah, it's bizarre. I mean, I've never seen hatred like it. Post-assassination, the lunatic liberals basking in the glory of his death and assassination. I won't, as much as I'd like to quote tweet what they're doing to make him famous, I can't have it on my feed. But it's not gone unnoticed. And I hope people are awake now to the hatred that the leftists are actually riddled with. It's a malignant virus, that wokeism. It's not good. So you've spent your entire life in America and all around America.

5:09Why have you got such a strong emotional connection to England? My bloodline's from here. It's from British, Irish. But so much of our heritage in the U.S. comes from your country. You know, we get English common law. your Bill of Rights was the model for our Bill of Rights, your Magna Carta. We based our Constitution on a lot of the information from your Magna Carta. So much we can relate to as Americans and so much we got from you, and that makes for a really strong bond. So I really appreciate my heritage. I really appreciate where I come from. But, you know, when I – it's such a strange – how am I even here, Liam?

5:50It's the strangest story. How does a country boy from South Georgia end up being great friends with outlaw number one? Enemy of the state. Tommy Robinson and being part of his movement. It's really a strange story. It's an incredible story to me. I feel very privileged to be here. But, you know, the way I got here, if you want to know the truth, is a very strange coincidence, man. I had followed Tommy for probably about 10 years. I saw him probably about 10 years ago. I saw a video of him, just him, you know, tiny Tommy and these huge Muslim lads approaching him. And he was giving them shit, man.

6:28You know, just nobody else with him, just him and these three other guys. And he was giving them what for. He didn't care. You know what I mean? He just I was like, who? I said, the nuts on this guy. Who is this guy? And so from there on, I paid attention to him. You would see him pop up on the feed. You know, back then it was the algorithm. I don't even know there was an algorithm 10 years ago. But you would see him pop up. I was like, man, this guy, every video, I was like, God, this guy is amazing. Just the courage, you know. And there's something to be said for courage and something to me when you see that sort of passion in someone like Tommy, there's his love of country and, you know, the way he just doesn't care who he says it to.

7:07You know, he's not afraid. So that made an impression on me. And in 10 years, let me ask you, has Tommy's message ever changed? No, it's the exact same. He's been saying the same thing from day one. from day one. But, you know, he and I would, we had a couple of interactions there. I actually, when I started doing this relatively early on, I made a video about him and he had commented, he actually reposted it. And I was like, oh, that's cool, man. And I actually got quite a lot of views. And I was, I think I had like 600 followers at the time. I think it was on Parler. And so he and I had communicated a couple of times on Parler and not much more than that.

7:44Just, hey, thanks, man, for the post. How are you? So 10 years later, right, we're going to take a trip over here to London. We're just going to come do the tourist thing. We're going to see London. We're going to look at Buckingham Palace, Stonehenge, all the stuff that the nerdy tourists like to do because I'm a bit of a nerd too. So I just thought, you know, what the hell? I'll just message this guy and see if he's available, have a beer. I didn't even know he didn't drink at the time. So I'm like, this guy would be great to have a beer with. He's actually the worst to have a beer with. Yeah.

8:12Oh, I know. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I'm aware. I'm aware now. You dodged the bullet. Yeah, I'm aware. I'm very aware. So, yeah, he was very gracious. He said, you know what? Come on. And he said, you know what we'll do? We'll have an English roast. So we got here, and we planned for this English roast. And he was going to be even more gracious. He was going to do an interview with me, an hour-long interview. He was going to allot some time, too. I know he's a busy guy. So I was like, wow, this guy's really cool. So we came on a Sunday to have the English roast, had the English roast, met his family. Very nice.

8:46Very lovely. All of them. And then we were going to leave and I was going to do the interview the next day. All right. Well, that night, the night before the interview, this is the funniest. It's really the funniest thing, man. He calls me up and he goes, Don, I've gotten a call from Scotland. This family, the family of Chris Donnelly, was the first religiously motivated hate crime in all of Scotland. I have to go see them so I can't do your interview tomorrow. He's like, why don't you, instead of doing a one-hour interview, you, why don't you do a week with Tommy Robinson? And so I looked at the missus because she was with me and I was like, hmm, Buckingham Palace, Stonehenge or a week with England's most wanted.

9:26I was like, let's do Tommy Robinson. So we went with this guy all over the UK. We went to Scotland. We spoke with him with a horrific story there as well. Chris Donald, indeed, the first religiously motivated hate crime in all of Scotland. And what had happened was his family wanted to do a vigil marking the 20th anniversary of Chris's death. Now, this is a young Scottish boy. I think it was 15 or 16. I can't remember his exact age. But what happened was these three Muslims went out actually looking for a white Christian boy to murder. That was part of the whole thing. That's why they did it. So they nabbed him up.

10:01He had a friend there. They almost got the friend, too. Luckily, he escaped. But they put Chris in a van, stabbed him up pretty good, and then they set him on fire, and they killed him just because of the fact that he was a white Christian boy. So this family wanted to mark the 20th anniversary of Chris Donald's death, but the city would not allow them to have the vigil because they didn't want to stir up the ire of the Muslim community. Who do they call? They call Batman, Tommy Robinson, right? They called Tommy Robinson, and when the city government finds out Tommy Robinson's involved with this, they go, oh, no, no, no, you can have the vigil.

10:40But the family was fantastic, beautiful family. We really felt for them. So we leave. We leave there, and then we go to Wells. We go to Wells where I believe you pronounced it Canethaly. Canethaly, how do you pronounce it? Just like that. Oh, is that right? Because that's a bastardization of how you pronounce it. So we went there, again, because someone called for Tommy Robinson. This is the kind of guy Tommy Robinson is. People are, when the authorities do not help, which they don't anymore, not if you're a white Christian, if white and Christian is how you identify, you're going to get very little cooperation from the police.

11:16That's when you call Tommy Robinson. You know in the States, when the call for Batman, they laser beam the bat sign. When they want Tommy Robinson in the UK, they laser beam the Stone Island badge. And he sees it in the air and he goes, someone needs me. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think that the Stone Island probably looks better on Tommy than a pair of tights would. Let's just put it that way. You say that. This is 2025 in the West. True. True. Batman's probably got pink hair these days. I don't know. But so anyway, we go there. And what happens there is Tommy ends up documenting what that town is going through.

11:51And what's happened there is folks were out protesting in this tiny little hotel. There was like 200 people as the population of this town. Well, the government's planning on bringing all of these immigrants in to fill this town of 200 people. And these people are scared to death because we all see what's happening with the migrants. They're stalking women. I'm not saying everyone is bad, but, you know, how do you parse them out? You need to keep them all from coming over until you sort it out and figure out how to better vet your migrants. But what was happening when they were coming to pack this hotel and Tommy Robinson shows up and he does a short documentary on it.

12:31And he basically makes a documentary about everything they're going through and puts that up for the world to see. But that's the kind of guy he is. So when you guys have trouble or folks have trouble in your nation and when you're going through some of the things you're going through because you have a tyrannical government here, that's Tommy Robinson to the rescue because that's kind of guy. He's a patriot. And that is very much what he is. When, let's say, victims, survivors, people in severe distress, and they literally have all their avenues exhausted. They've tried the police, the council, the social services.

13:02They get in nowhere because these groups and institutions do not want to offend a certain community. it always lands on Tommy's lap. That's it. And he'll always put his testicles in the wheelbarrow, walk through their town, and deal with it very courageously. He can't say no. No, he can't say no. He can't say no to anyone. He cannot say no. When they ask for help, Tommy's there. Yeah. I could tell you a funny story, but I want this to be completely about you because this is great. You're more patriotic for Britain than a lot of Brits at the moment, although the tide is turning. I think so. And I'm sure every time you come back, you can feel a bit more national pride.

13:35There's a resurgence of it. There is. We look at the Americans and we think, wow, guns over there. This fucking, it's insane. But you must look at us and think they're swinging machetes in the street. So what's your current view, perspective, opinion of Great Britain as we live and breathe today? I love the people of Great Britain. They've been very warm and welcoming to me. They're very passionate about their politics. One of the differences, I will tell you, it is starting to see a change now. But when I first started coming over here to Tommy's demonstrations and speaking in his demonstrations, The one the one of the things I noticed between your culture and mine is the optimism.

14:10I don't think you guys have the same optimism we have in the United States. People always call us those arrogant Americans or those cowboys. But it's because our government is set up the way it is and because we do have so many constitutional protections set in stone that we have that confidence. So you can when you come over, you can definitely see because of your government, government is so corrupt. And there's so many authoritarians entrenched in your parliament and in your government. They are able to control the masses. And we always have that in the back of our minds, and we always know in the back of our minds that our government, because of our Second Amendment and our First Amendment, our Second Amendment protects our First Amendment.

14:46And just for people that don't know, what are the Second and First Amendments? Sure. The Second Amendment is the right for the people to keep and bear arms, and it shall not be infringed by the government. That's in our Constitution. You cannot infringe on our right to bear arms. The First Amendment is our right to free speech. The only caveats in our field, we don't have hate speech laws, which are very subjective. So depending on who the party is in power, if you don't like cheeseburgers and you say, I like a cheeseburger, well, now that becomes hate speech. Very subjective. Who gets to define what hate speech is?

15:18That's why you don't have hate speech. It makes absolutely no sense at all. So we don't have hate speech laws. Have you noticed that Great Britain hasn't got a First Amendment at the moment? Yeah, I have noticed. I have noticed. One of the things I said recently was that Great Britain needs some sort of constitution set in stone because obviously the Magna Carta is very outdated and it's not really adhered to much by parliament. Most of your – what you would call a constitution in the UK is based on a set of precedents and statutes that determines what your laws are really. And those can change again like the wind with the party in power.

15:53You make a new law. Well, this statute is gone. It's not set in stone. on. With our Constitution, that's it, baby. That's the buck stops there. When you get to that document, if you've breached that document with any of these laws, that's unconstitutional, and it can't happen in the United States. That's why we feel so protected, and that's why we, I guess, I think we're more confident and arrogant, because we know if it comes to our government, our people in the UK may not understand that our Second Amendment was specifically created for the sole purpose of protecting us from a tyrannical government, a tyrannical government.

16:26That was people's hunting and self-defense. It's not even self-defense that it was created for. It was created for defense from our government. So if our government does try to step over that line, because there is a line. We saw that in 1776 when the British – same type of government you guys are facing here. The British government then was tyrannical. It's tyrannical now. We were pissed off about some taxes, man. That was it. Look at what they're doing. They're turning your children into these transgender nonsense, mutilating their bodies, putting them on these hormones that are going to destroy their systems for life.

17:03They're bringing immigrants that hate you into your country, immigrants that don't want to assimilate. They hate you. They hate your culture. They see you all. Whether you are a practicing Christian or not, they see you because you're non-Christian as a white Christian. That's what they see everyone in the UK is. And they've come to take over by subjugation, right, or either, you know, subjugation or death is what it says in the Koran, right, whatever it takes. So they are commanded to go forth and prosper all over the world and spread Islam until the very last person has been converted to Islam.

17:35So that's what they see every white Western nation as, as somewhere to go and conquer. Now, they'll come in like lambs, right, but they want to go out like lions, right? You see when the Muslims come into a country, they use the LGBT community, the Marxists. So all these different groups, anyone on the left, they'll use as useful idiots until they get to where they need, until they get the numbers. Right now, there's 6 % of your population, I believe. And we can see that you don't even need 50 % of your population, more than 50%, for it to become dominated by Islam. We can see already the influence they have with the 6 % they have.

18:13You don't need half of your parliament to be Muslim if you have them positioned in strategic offices or positions of power in the right areas around your country. For instance, the boroughs of London. You've got already – you've got mayors now, Muslim mayors around the boroughs of London who have executive power. FX's American Horror Story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment. with the iconic horrors you love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan-favorite roles. Light your candles, draw your pentagrams, and prepare for a supreme surprise. FX's American Horror Story 13 premieres September 24th on FX and Hulu.

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19:36I don't think we've got Muslim representatives in Congress in the United States. I don't think that – one of them, Ilhan Omar, declared that she was more loyal to Somalia than she was to the United States. No repercussions, nothing. We don't do anything about it. She's still there. Why is she there? I'm surprised Trump hasn't nipped that in the bud. Well – Could be a work in progress. Trump can't do anything about that because of the way, again, the way our government works. We have three branches of government. We have the executive, the legislative, and the judicial. So they each are separate but equal branches of government.

20:09So Trump can't just go in there and remove somebody from Parliament because that's an equal – I mean, not Parliament, Congress. He can't go in and remove someone from Congress because that's an equal branch of government. Well, that's interesting to know because anybody over here on the left – if there's a problem in the states, everyone will just blame Trump. So Trump isn't the Wizard of Oz. He's not got the ability to do everything, but he does what he can in his power. That's interesting to know. And I picked up on when you said about Americans being optimistic and us being pessimistic. And I totally agree.

20:36I've done a lot of travelling. So if I'd ever go to the Caribbean, Barbados, for example, there was always a big American group of lads there. We'd play volleyball and they would all build each other up. See, over here, we call it banter. We sort of put each other down. I don't subscribe to that bullshit. If I've got a friend, I'd tell him what I love about him. And I think the Americans are the same. And you get pumped when each other win. Over here, Brits kind of like it when their mates lose because it makes them feel grander. And we need to adopt more of the optimism and the building each other's spirits up.

21:07So I'm glad you said that. And I hope at this point people realise that I'm not talking to somebody from Croydon or Essex or Leeds, Bradford or Newcastle. I'm talking to a man from America. And you've just hit all of our problems in one big sentence. The world is watching. The world is watching the UK. This isn't confined to this little island. The whole world are watching the state and the embarrassment and the deterioration of the country. As an American man, why is it so important for you to fight for us and with us like you do? Well, you just said it. Great Britain is the bellwether for the West.

21:44So they're coming after the entire West. And you described yourselves as a tiny island. But you have 80 million people now as your population roughly. So you are small geographically, but you're just large enough that if you are overcome and if you are overtaken by the Marxists or Islam or any of these leftist ideas or agendas, you're big enough that we can say, okay, what can happen to us as well. So I'm here because I do identify as a Christian constitutional conservative patriot who loves his country, passionate about freedom. And that same idea of freedom that came from your country, I don't want to see your country fall, man.

22:28And it's in dire straits right now, maybe more so than any country in the world. You've got the Swedens and you've got the Denmarks and all those as well. But your position of power on a global scale is far greater than those. And you're right there. You're right there on that razor's edge teetering, man. You could go either way. You may have one more election. And if you don't get it right, man, I don't know how you overcome it because Islam seems to be ruling the day right now as far as your policy. Because what's happened has you've had all these Muslims come into your country. And slowly but surely – and this is not a product of the labor government.

23:07Let's be honest here, was the conservative government, 14 years of just uncontrolled immigration into your country. Now, it's gotten worse under Labour because they are so much further left. The blues sort of hit it well. They were covert. The reds are just in your face. This is a bit of us. Thank you very much. They're happy providing this service. Yeah. And so what's happened is as more and more of London and the boroughs and the places, the districts that matter, the regions that matter in your country as far as voting goes, it's all strategic, man. They're no dummies. They're no dummies. It's all strategic.

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23:38They're putting all these people, all your Muslim councils. You've got over 100 Sharia law courts now, which they say, oh, they can't really operate without the British court system getting involved. Tell that to the Muslim wife or the Muslim young girl who's in one of these Muslim families who has to go to these Sharia courts. Do you really think the British court system to get involved in these family decisions? Who gets the inheritance? Well, we know what Islam says about inheritance and women. They always get less than the man. We know what, you know, custody and all the things that happens in these Sharia courts and how the women are so oppressed.

24:11Do you really think these Sharia courts are getting there? These families aren't adhering to what the Sharia court says, whether the British court system gets involved or not. And I'm sure there's occasions where they do, but that's beside the point. The whole point is you guys are being inundated and your politicians are doing whatever they're saying and doing whatever they need to do to appeal to that electorate, that Muslim electorate. So a lot of what you're seeing as far as policies and all that are directly related to your immigration. So, yeah, man, I'm here because I love your people. Now I'm here because I love your people.

24:47Initially, I saw it as an opportunity to help the West and warn my people. Because if I can bring attention through my channel or my voice or whatever I can do, whatever medium I can do that through to bring attention, I can show folks in my country who haven't been paying attention. Because let's face it, we are a little bit selfish as Americans. We do pay attention to America, which I think every country to a degree is. And you should be. We should be America first. We should be British first if you're British. Should be, you know, wherever you're from. Even the term Britain first is considered a racial slur.

25:20No, that's bullshit. Our national flag is considered a symbol of racism. Yeah, that's the same with us. They don't fly the American flag. They don't like us to fly the American flag, but we fly it high and proudly because we're patriots. That's where Trump has got the edge. We haven't got a patriotic prime minister. And I don't remember if we ever really have. Maybe Margaret Thatcher. Other than that, it's been a bit of a shit show. And that's what I think we need. Tell me your views on Keir Starmer. Your Keir Starmer is the most communist prime minister you've ever had. He is an old red. He goes – the socialist ideas with him go way back.

25:55I don't know how much you know about Keir Starmer, but he is – he's worse than a Stalinist. He's a Trotskyist. And if you know anything about Stalin and Trotsky back in the day, Trotsky was excommunicated from the Communist Party and banished to Siberia because he was so ruthless. And Stalin basically wanted to – he wanted to exact communism on Russia. He wanted to implement communism. He wanted to slowly phase out Russia's version of capitalism. It wasn't our current version of capitalism. It was better than communism. He wanted to slowly phase that out, and he wanted to slowly and gradually expose the Soviet Union to communism and turn it into communism.

26:34Trotsky wasn't having that. Trotsky wanted a full-blown revolution. He wanted capitalism immediately gone. He wanted to implement socialism immediately, and he wanted to take it worldwide using military force. So what ended up happening was Stalin excommunicated him because he was such a ruthless communist. Well, Keir Starmer, your prime minister, is a follower of a guy named Michel Pablo, whose real name was Michaelis Raptus. Now, he was an undercurrent of Trotsky's—well, he's actually part of Trotsky's Fourth International back in the day, but he ended up getting booted from the Fourth International.

27:09but he was a devout follower of Trotsky. And that's who Keir Starmer has modeled his entire belief system after was this guy, Pablo, who was in Trotsky's fourth international. In fact, Keir Starmer actually started a magazine in 1986, I believe it was with three other gentlemen. It was called the socialist alternative. He was on the editorial board. He actually wrote for this socialist magazine and he, you know, espousing all of his socialist ideas and, you know, collectivism over individualism, restriction of private property rights, redistribution of wealth, all the things that make socialism well, all the things that are so dastardly and terrible about socialism as they are opposed to capitalism.

27:53There was something else Pablo, this Pablo guy was famous for, this method of infiltrating organization. It was called deep entryism is what it was called. So it was basically this method of infiltrating these massive organizations like your parliament or other organizations that would otherwise be capitalist or something else and gradually and systemically using your voice and your ideas and whatever policies you can help create there and gradually turning them over into socialism. Right. It was called deep entryism. So that was – and to me, that's exactly what I see Keir Starmer doing. He's using that deep entryism philosophy from Pablo, this terrible, you know, Trotsky, devout Trotsky follower.

28:39Trotsky was ruthless, dude. He was a terrible communist. And this is who Kirsten Armour is in the vein of. He's the most communist prime minister you ever had. And where does this all end up? What's the end result if socialism creeps in its full capacity? What would the UK look like for people that don't really understand socialism, communism, Marxism? And really, there's people that would have voted for Starmer that don't really understand Starmer. They just hated conservatives so much because they made such a shit job of ruining the country. They've done a great job of ruining the country. They've done a shit job of conserving the country, which is ironic because they're called conservatives.

29:13But where does this end if Starmer stays in or even Labor? Well, just look through history and look at any – trying to find any example of socialism that worked and we can get the answer there. I mean look at what just happened to Venezuela. Look what a beautiful, flourishing country Venezuela was. And then Maduro comes into the picture, and it's shit now, bro. It's shit. Violence. Violence, everything. You see what happened with Charlie Kirk? That's what they're all about. That's what they're all about. We bring the peace. We want to do it peacefully. We want everyone to have their piece of the pie.

29:43We want you to work for it. We want you to be able to innovate. We want you to be able to make as much money as possible on as much land as you can own. They want the opposite of that. The problem with socialism is everybody cannot be equal no matter how hard you try to make it happen. Because even if you take all of the wealth of Great Britain and you distribute it throughout the massive and you say, OK, you only get this much and you get the same amount throughout your entire population, eventually you're still going to have equality because you're still going to have people who don't work as hard as someone else.

30:13You're going to still have people who don't have the aptitude as someone else. You're going to have folks who don't – who will squander their wealth and waste their money, not invest it properly. And you'll have all these people who over here were given the same amount as these folks. And now what have we got to do again? We got to redistribute it again. And so what happens as you do that? Eventually – I think Margaret Thatcher said eventually you run out of other people's money. Well, that's why. That is why. Socialism can never work. It's mathematically impossible for socialism. It's just a dream.

30:45It's a far-fetched dream that never works and it never hasn't. People are saying, oh, it'll work, it'll work, it'll work. I say, okay, well, just show me one example. It's an idea. It's a fantasy. Right. And any fantasy that ends in violence is one that needs to be cleared from. And I can't see how people – see, I don't think people realize. You see the political prisoners, Lucy Conley, for example, and now they're talking about rolling out digital IDs. People don't realize that is the start of communism. 100%. That's the start of it. So people that think, oh, people were probably thinking that voted for Labour.

31:15Yeah, good. He's just coming down on the far right that doesn't even exist. I mean, you go to these rallies, you see these families, it's a multicultural gathering of concerned families that can see where the country's heading. But these leftists that hate the right so much and see people getting jailed for tweets and thoughts and very little and then digital IDs rolled out, they think that it's the government cracking down on the far right. That's the government cracking down on you. Mm hmm. That's all of us. Yeah. And they're the useful idiots. You keep voting for me. You think you're getting what you want.

31:49Bam. You're part of the trap to 100 percent. And we can see what happens with social credit scores. We look around the world. We can see what the communist countries are doing with it. We can look what China's done with it. OK, I don't like what you said here on this post. So we're going to jack your interest rate up a little bit or we're not going to give you a loan at all. Right. Oh, it looks like you used too much fossil fuels this week. So we're going to have to we're going to have to, you know, knock you here in some way. or fine you here or penalize you here. You traveled too many miles this week.

32:16You went outside your 15-minute city, so we're going to have to fine you a little bit more money this week. So they'll use it to track you. They'll use it to track wherever you go, whatever you do. They'll use it to basically suffocate you and force you to bend to their will. There's nothing you can do about it. I mean, I can see you've got your eye well on the ball and your ear to the ground. But it's staggeringly impressive to think that you've got more political knowledge and history on the UK than most people in the UK because we're purposely put in our busy bubble. You've got to leave your house at five.

32:51You've got to be on the train by half five. You've got to be in Central Run for seven. You've got to be at your desk for eight o 'clock. Otherwise, your boss is looking at his watch. You've got to start working. You get 30 minutes lunch break. You've got to eat quick. By the time you finish work, you've got to rush back so you can have 30 minutes with your kids. By the time they go to bed, you're fucked. You've got to go to bed because you've got to do it all over again. and you're too busy to pay attention to what's going on around you. And that's when these insidious socialist fucking policies start creeping in because you didn't even see it coming.

33:21They keep us so busy and distracted that we don't even know when we're under attack. I can see we're under attack. You can see we're under attack, which is why platforms like this are great. Because can you imagine a conversation like this on the BBC or ITV or Channel 4? No, no. No, that's all geared for the sponsors and the ownerships of those networks, man. The media is controlled by their corporate interests. You know, BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street are the largest shareholders of 80 percent of the stock market. They own just about everything. So the example like – let's take COVID, for example.

33:56During the COVID administration, you had every network coming out and, you know, saying how great COVID was. Everybody needs to get that vaccine. Now you need to get two shots, three shots, four shots, five shots. Well, the same entities, Black Rocks, the Vanguards, and the State Streets, who own the pharmaceutical companies also own the news networks. Now, if I'm a small-town guy and I own a small-town newspaper, but I also happen to own the burger joint right across the street, I'd be pretty stupid if I didn't advertise and just rave about my hamburger joint in the newspaper I own. So if I'm BlackRock, Vanguard, and State Street, and I own all the pharmaceutical companies who are producing the COVID vaccine, and I own all the news networks, I would be a fool not to rave about and promote these medicines and these vaccines on the news networks that I also own.

34:43Do you see how incestuous the whole relationship is, why news networks aren't really promoting the news anymore? because if you hear about a product that they like, if you hear about a person that they like, well, I guarantee it's got something to do with the owners over here who own 80 % of the stock market who also own your news network. I'm talking about ABC, NBC, CNN, Fox News. I'm talking about all of them are owned by BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard. And look what they do. Let's take the opposite to that. Look at what they do to the people they don't like, the people that speak out, very much what you've just done there.

35:15Look how they attack people that notice the patterns, call it out, build a big platform. Then the world's listening to that person. Then that person starts exposing all the chinks and the cracks. And then people start buying into it and listening and paying attention. All of a sudden they're hit with some phony charge. They're silenced. They're dragged through the system. The process is the punishment. They've got gagging orders in there. Some of them even end up in jail. I mean, corruption is off the chart. And I think a lot of people where they are so busy in that busy bubble, they sort of think that's only really we only really see that in the films this conspiracy it's like no no no it doesn't benefit by people knowing the truth because the people that the only people that benefit are the people at the very top of the tier we are really cannon fodder and just we're just pawns in their game of chess we're not valued and as soon as we realise that we're not valued by the people at the top I think that's when we can start building our community like we're doing now with Unite the Kingdom it's like well they don't care about us The people either side don't care about us, so we've got to start caring about each other.

36:19And that's really my thing is I'm big on the whole community spirit, sticking to your culture, being proud of who you are, not apologising, something that your First Amendment, your right to free speech is just beautiful. I mean, you must be looking over here thinking you've got people going to jail for tweets and Facebook posts. Do you drink? Do you go to the pub? Do you speak to your friends in the pub? Yeah, for sure. And you say, have you seen what's happening in the UK? Yeah, all the time. Everybody in America is aware of what's going on in the UK at this point, right? And nobody's had more to do that than Tommy Robinson.

36:55You yourself are doing a great job of that. Let me commend you for that because your channel has gotten huge. You're always speaking out. You're always at the demonstrations as well. So I want to thank you for that, for what you do for your country as well because you're a great patriot. But more and more people are waking up because of folks like Tommy and folks like yourself and others. So many people like Voice of Wales. Those guys are just relentless. You know Voice of Wales guys. Yeah, Dan's been there. Stan will be there soon. Those guys are relentless, man. So many people now are rising up to do what they need to do to help people in Western countries like America.

37:27I think most of Europe's aware and has been aware for a while what's going on here in the U.K., but America's just starting to wake up and see that. Oh, my God, you guys really are bellwether for the rest of us in the West. You and I could sit here and talk for hours, and we could talk for hours about why this whole thing is all about money. It's not about, you know, asylum for refugees. Oh, those poor refugees. Oh, gosh, we just got to give them asylum. It's not about that. It's about money. The whole thing is about money. It's lots of different avenues and aspects of how money can be made when they do the things they do to you from their tyranny.

38:03When they bring these migrants over, they see the cheap labor. They see a new consumer base to the globalist corporatist, that is. Then your politicians, they see a new voting block, a new way for them to stay in power. Not to mention when they come in, they also see, oh, look, a new windfall. Look, more taxes. Look, we've got to take care of more indigents. Look, we've got to take more indigents. They don't have any money. So now we can ask for more money from our people. We can suck them dry and we can bleed these people dry to support these new folks. Then you've got the military industrial complex who's looking way down the road.

38:36They see what happens. Well, if the UK, one of the most powerful nations on earth, becomes Muslim, we know what happens to Muslim nations, to third world nations. They're always in chaos. So maybe that's a potential for us to have a revenue stream there and make some money way down the road in the future from the chaos and the war that may come from that. So all politicians, to a lot of people, including me, are just puppets. Keir Starmer hasn't got the IQ to run a country. He's not got the business acumen. He hasn't got the empathy. He hasn't got what it takes, period. So I know that he's a puppet.

39:04Now, Biden looked like he was the walking dead. He can't walk upstairs properly. He can't stay awake, sniffing girls' hair and stumbling and fumbling, fucking just looking at him. See, that was an awakening for me. Come on, man. Yeah. When I looked at Biden, I thought, okay, he's not pulling the strings. He's not making the decisions. So who is? But I believe that Trump is making the decisions. Is it because he's got so much wealth? And he's so old, he hasn't got long left, that he can't be bought, he can't be manipulated, and he's obviously overtly patriotic. So I'm sort of answering my own question, but I want to hear it from you.

39:44Can Trump be bought? Is Trump a puppet? Trump cannot be bought. And part of it has to do, I think, with his wealth. He is a very wealthy man. He was a very wealthy man the first time he came in office. It's much easier to buy someone who doesn't have wealth than the guy who came in with$8 billion to$10 billion, I think, which is what was estimated at the time. He actually lost money, only president, to lose net worth when he was in office. Obama went from having nothing, being broke basically before he became president, to now he's worth like$200 million or$300 million. It's a lot of money Obama's worth.

40:18Anyway, no, Trump cannot be bought. And I tell you, it's got a lot to do with his days as a real estate mogul in New York. The guy's a master. He wrote the book The Art of the Deal. He's a master negotiator. But more than anything, he loves America. He loves the opportunities that America has provided for him. He loves our capitalist economy. He loves all the opportunities that came from that. And so he just loves America. You can look back 30 years ago on an old segment of Oprah Winfrey or some other talk show that Trump was on. You'll see he was saying the same exact thing, espousing the same policies and principle ideas back then as he is now.

40:54He's never changed. The guy is just unbelievable. He's unmatched and he's still going strong. They say he gets three or four hours of sleep a night. He works all day where, you know, Joe Biden like slept for 18 hours of the day. And he might have shown up to the office for three of those hours and probably had auto pen work for him all day. So he's probably asleep at his office. Joe Biden slept while he was awake. Yeah. Well, on that, at our peak, we had 10 ,000 migrants per day coming into the U.S. at the peak during the Biden administration. All right. That's because he was asleep. Yeah, exactly.

41:26It's asleep at the wheel, so to speak. But when Trump won the election this time, within a few months, three, four, five months, gone. Zero. We went from 10 ,008 to zero. So don't tell me it can't be done. So it can be done. And we've seen how quick police can respond over here. So you can send somebody, you can go for all the effort to send somebody to jail for a tweet, but you can't control the borders. It's purposeful. It's orchestrated. They're not fleeing war. They're invading. Well, it's kind of they're taking the invitation. Yeah. But let's move to reform because we're desperate for people to stop inviting them.

42:05We don't want them invitations being sent out no more. We don't want to be distributing phones and health care and free meals a day and giving them the space to roam and do whatever it is they do without any checks at all. And a lot of people think that Nigel Farage is the answer. What's your observation? Nigel's not the answer. Old Nigel might have been the answer. Brexit Nigel might have been the answer. The Nigel today that's doing everything he can do to appease the Muslim community and appease the electorate is not the Nigel you need. Nigel is not the old Nigel anymore. I think people need to get that through their heads because when Nigel comes out here and says, okay, we're not going to deport all immigrants.

42:45It's an impossibility. It can't be done. Well, hold on a minute. Let me look over here across the ocean. 10 ,000 per day went to zero. And you're telling me it can't be done? And look what Trump's doing. He's deporting them every day. Thousands per day were deporting. Don't tell me. The British people don't want to hear you say, well, you know, we're going to consider, should we take, you know, biological males out of women's spaces? Well, we'll consider that on a case-by-case basis, as Nigel says. Really? Trump got in office day one, started writing executive orders, and got them out of all of our women's sports and college.

43:21And he put economic pressure on these colleges to make sure they change their policies. So because it's really a violation of women's rights and women's civil rights. Right. In America anyway, but you have biological ones where they can't just compete against themselves like males are allowed to do in their sports. And if you're so feminist, if you're so pro-women, why are you bringing these men into these women's spaces and taking away their spaces? It's not fair to fair to women. But to hear Nigel Farage say it can't be done. You look across the ocean, the brits are going. FX's American Horror Story returns for an unrivaled 13th installment with the iconic horrors you love to fear and an all-star cast reprising fan-favorite roles.

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44:46They don't want to hear that. The British people are hungry and thirsty for a Trump-like leader, right? Now, Trump's personality, you're not going to find anybody with that personality. It's just one of a kind, man. They broke the mold when they made Donald Trump. But I do think there are people who espouse his same types of policies. To me, Ben Habib right now, he's not pulling any punches. Advance UK, he's not pulling any punches. People say, well, Advance UK can't do it. They've only got 30 ,000 members. Yeah, they got 30 ,000 members in their first two months. That was ahead of the trajectory.

45:16Not only did they get 32 ,000 members in their first two months, they got the endorsement of Elon Musk, the richest man in the world in the first two months. An endorsement that had Nigel Farage been able to play his cards right, had he played his cards right, he would have gotten that endorsement. But that just goes to show what type of leader Nigel is, that he would lose such a valuable endorsement like Elon Musk. You lost that because Elon sees that weakness. He sees you appeasing the Muslim community because you think you're going to get something. Muslims are never going to vote for Nigel Farage.

45:48They're never going to do it. They're going to vote for labor. They're going to vote conservatives. That's the only way they're going to go. They're never going to vote for Farage. But for some reason, Farage is mine. Oh, well, let me say this or do this. And let me stack reform with Muslim administrators and all these folks. And let me give half of my co-directorate to a Muslim, Zia Yusuf, and maybe I can get the Muslim vote. Reform is never going to get the Muslim vote. Muslim would say, I mean, Nigel can say and do whatever he wants to do, but he's never going to get that vote. And he doesn't understand.

46:19That's where he differs from Trump. Trump doesn't ever, has never since he started this whole thing, has never tried to appease an electorate. He says exactly what he wants to say, when he wants to say it, how he wants to say it. He says exactly what he means. And he doesn't kowtow. He doesn't straddle the fence like Nigel Farage does all the time to try to get votes. And neither does Ben Habib. And, you know, another guy who I like a lot is Nick Tinkoen at UKIP. But a lot of these groups – but back to my point about Advance UK, people say, well, they've only got 30 ,000. OK, well, they're ahead of reform's trajectory, right, because they only started on June 30th.

46:56Advance UK only started on June 30th. You've got four more years until your next big election here in the UK. Now, you're telling me you don't think with Elon Musk, who is the largest billboard, Elon Musk is the largest billboard in the entire world. He has 225 million people following him on Twitter. You don't think Elon every day. I like Advance UK. Advance UK is doing great. I like Ben Habib. Every single day for four years, you don't think they're going to get more members than Reform? Well, it's funny you mentioned Ben and Nick. So Nick and Ben have both been on. See, for me, a lot of my audience will be reform voters.

47:36Me personally, and this isn't just because I'm a host and try and be impartial, I am politically homeless because I wouldn't really know where to put my vote if I'm honest. I don't believe in Farage fully. I'm not sure if the others have got the backing, certainly not yet. But I know some have got the stones for the job. And what a lot of Farage fans, I mean, in an ideal world, They'd all unite and they'd work out the hierarchy and just take back Britain. But that's an ideology. So what a lot of Farage fans are saying, that he's being more flexible so we can, you know, he's appeasing people so he can win the vote of the centre, some of the Conservatives that used to be there.

48:15And then when he gets into power, then he's going to come down with an iron pour. Personally. How many times have you heard that? When I get into power, though. Yes. When I get into power, I'm going to do this. And that never happens. That's my concern. And I tell people that watch me, even if you do vote reform and you do love Farage, you've seen a few slip ups. Call him out. Make him respond and change his ways. Make him solidify his policies that he's promised. Don't let him flip flop on you, because if he knows he can manipulate his audience and his support base, he will do to fund his own needs.

48:48Every politician I've ever seen over the years, that's what they do, apart from a very small few. And the only person I've ever seen, I think, in my lifetime is Donald Trump. And I would love us to inherit that Britain first attitude, unapologetic, no excuses. We're secure in our country, our people, and just inject some spirit and pride back in there. We've lost it. I think people have to stop voting for the math. You're not going to get a great leader by voting for math. OK, reform. We're going to vote for reform because we feel like that's the only party outside of the Conservatives and the Labour who can win the vote.

49:23because look at their numbers now. Meanwhile, Nigel's inviting everyone from all the Tories. The report's just going to be another Tory party by the time your election comes around. So you can vote for the math if you want to, but you're not going to get a Trumpian figure if you're voting for the math. I'll tell you the figures that I reach. I'll tell you that the people I reach a month on across the board downloads, I reach over 50 million people a month. And I promote these stats. A, I'm proud of them. and B, it means people are listening and it's just not a lot of waffle. And also, it gives guests an opportunity to know that this is going to land on a lot of laps.

50:01You can really reach the hearts and minds of people through their phone or their TV by coming on. And I think that it's gone in Ben Habib's advantage coming on my show, Nick Tenconi. They've won a lot of support. People have got a better idea of what their manifesto is, what the vision looks like, what their future in their heads look like and what they're going to do for the people. Because you've got to read the comments. and the comments will tell you what the people want. And I've reached out to Farage and Tyson Lee Anderson and none of us working class like political snobbery and you should be versatile enough to speak to the big wigs and have the highbrow conversations, but you should be able to have the layman's conversation with someone like me so that you can explain to the working class in working class language, I haven't forgotten about you.

50:45And I had a guy called John Mapping on just a week before last and he actually knew Charlie Kirk personally. It was due to see him in a few days. But he knows Nigel Farage, Rupert Lowe, but he knows them all personally. So I've said to him, do you think you could have a word with Nigel Farage and try and talk him into coming on the show? That'd be great. So I can just have, I'm not going to grill him because we are on the same team. He's dropped the ball a few times and I'd like to say to him, have you reconsidered what you said? Can you hold your hands up and be accountable for that? because if you can be accountable, I think you'd win a lot of hearts back that you've lost because we don't want to be lied to.

51:24And I think it takes more of a man to say, see, I always leave a little bit of room in my mind. I say this often. I leave a little bit of room in my mind for doubt just in case I'm wrong. You can't be right about everything. And also, if I've made a decision, but then a month later I'm presented with new information or evidence, well, I then have to go back and change what I thought here. This decision now changes based on new evidence. And I don't think there's any shame in saying, do you know what, at the time, I was unaware of this important piece of the jigsaw, so now... That's what a principled man with integrity would do, Liam.

51:57And this is what we're looking for. But I don't, you know what, I don't think Nigel's going to sit down with you because you're too close to Tommy Robinson. And Nigel goes out of his way every chance he gets to disparage Tommy Robinson. He's just got it out for Tommy Robinson. I don't get it. I don't understand it. Main character syndrome is what I think. I think you're right. And I think if he would just not speak, It'd be better just to no comment. I don't want to talk about Tommy Robinson. Rather than just go out of your way, Tommy's a terrible guy, but his financier, George Cottrell, and former members of parliament who were convicted of crimes, they all deserve Christian forgiveness.

52:31But when it comes to Tommy Robinson, Tommy Robinson doesn't deserve that same Christian forgiveness, according to Nigel Farage. And you said something there to me when you were talking about all those, the size of your YouTube, which, by the way, congratulations. Your YouTube channel is amazing. You do amazing interviews. How many subscribers are you at now? Subscribers on YouTube, over a quarter of a million. Across all the platforms, 1.2 million now. So you have a quarter of a million subscribers, which is great, by the way. It's massive. You just told me about how many people that you thought you were helping to change their minds and appealing to.

53:02I agree that you are now. Extrapolate that to 225 million subscribers. That's what Elon Musk has got. Think about all the people whose minds you're changing and the fact that Elon Musk with 225 million followers is now endorsing Advance UK. You don't think in four years that's going to put a dent in reforms? I know that anything's capable, and I know how quick things can change. And also, it's important that I mention that with this show, it's kind of I want to pick people's brains to find out their perspective because the more I hear from different people, my mind changes from time to time. And I don't want to spend every episode, you know, bashing the same people over and over again.

53:45And I certainly don't want to be part of the division on the right at all. Because it's very testy, the whole reform advance thing. I get it. I get it. You know, good friends. And, you know, look, the people who support reform and the reforms members are patriots. I believe that. I 100 % believe that. And by the way, this isn't me backtracking. Farage has got a lot to answer for, and I would ask him out right in front of me, why did you say that? And it's a particular thing that he said, It was terrible. And I would just like to ask him, why did you tell that lie on LBC? Because you know it's a lie.

54:14Or was you misinformed? Did you make a mistake? If so, we can clear this in five minutes and then we can move on. Because Farage has done great work, and I'm not knocking him for that. But so has Ben Habib. So has Rupert Lowe. So has Nick Tenkoni. There's a lot of great people with big hearts on the right now. And if they can just work it out, because I need to vote for someone. I need someone to vote for too. That's the bottom line. The one thing I want to – more than anything that – I'm salty this day about it – is the fact that he said Tommy Robinson was arrested for abusing women. Do you remember that?

54:48Well, that's what I'm talking about. That's what you're talking about. Because I've beat that drum several times now. It was a blatant lie. It's not like a misspeak. No. Because it's been brought to his attention that that has never happened. Tommy's never abused women. It's defamatory. But he said it. It's very defamatory. And it's one of the worst things you can accuse a man of. It's the sort of thing that would get a man's head kicked in by another group of men. Yeah, 100%. No one likes a man that hits a woman. That's when my switch kind of flipped on Nigel, 100%. Same for me. Before that, I was kind of like, and I'm looking at Nigel, I don't like what he's saying, but when he said that about Tommy, I'm like, dude, you just blatantly lied.

55:22For me, Nigel was the answer. To the whole country, yeah. For me, I thought Nigel is the only solution. Yeah. And I do still admire some of his work, but what he done there, that major faux pas, that liar, disingenuous. I just, I can't let that go. The only way I'll be able to let that go, not that he gives a solitary fuck about me letting anything go. I care, Liam. Yeah, I know you do. We care about each other. Which is the main thing. We've got each other, mate. For us, fuck you. Me and Don have got each other. I don't like the sound of that. Let's say that again. Just keep it cool. Don and I have got each other.

56:00But I just want accountability. I want accountability within parliament, and I want the people to be noticed and heard and taken notice of because they're there to serve us. You'd think it was the other way around. Well, that's how it's steering towards. Just a couple more questions. I want to know your take on the Ukraine conflict. Ukraine. Without me asking you like a specific question, what's your overall take on that conflict? The overall take on Ukraine, oh, my God. It's like two brothers that have been fighting for a thousand years. This is what Ukraine and Russia is all about. It's about ethnicity more than anything.

56:35It's about their relationship to Kiev, which is basically the origin of the Russian Orthodox Church, which they both hold dear. It's about the fact that you have so many Ukrainians who really still identify as ethnic Russians and who want to be part of Russia. And a lot of these regions like the Donetsk and the Oblasts and some of these other regions that Russia is currently occupying, they still want to be Russian. So why in the hell are we participating? Because they've been going back and forth like this for a thousand years, a thousand years of war. This is just the newest one of those. So every time Ukraine and Russia goes to war over their different regions and their ethnicity, why are we – we've given them$175 billion.

57:18And I'm speaking as an American. I'm speaking for America, and I'm not speaking for the UK. We've given them$175 billion already. We're$35 trillion in debt. What are we doing? Funding that. Funding that if the NATO countries really feel like Vladimir Putin is really trying to advance and procure more territory for Russia, which I totally disagree with. I do not think at all that's what Putin is trying to do. But if the NATO countries in Europe believe that, they should be responsible for that funding. Why is America, who is protected by an entire ocean, why are we funding that when we've got infrastructure problems?

57:50We've got immigration problems. We've got homeless veterans. We've got education needs that need to be met. And we're$35 trillion in debt. You want us to give billions more to Ukraine? I'm completely out on that, man. I think that needs to be handled by European countries, European NATO countries. And, you know, they need to do what they can do to resolve it. I don't think America needs to put any more money in that battle, man. We've done enough. And, you know, we're kind of the world's bank. You know, we give more of our GDP to NATO, to the NATO defense fund than any other country in the world.

58:23when most of the countries aren't even meeting their minimum requirement, which I think is 2 % of the GDP is what NATO countries are required to contribute to the NATO fund. I think ours is upwards of over four now. This current conflict, who's the bad guy, Putin or Zelensky? Neither of them are good. I mean, Ukraine's full of Nazis, right? People that just hate Jews. Putin's certainly no angel. so I don't think either of them are good guys in this. Like I said, I think it's just like two old relatives still fighting over the same thing they've been fighting over for a thousand years now and this is just the latest squabble in that whole deal.

59:09And with Ukraine in mind, that lady, that woman, that Ukrainian refugee that got bludgeoned to death on the train. Because she was white. What was that all about? How was that guy, because he had like 15 felonies against his name. How was he free to go and murder someone like that? Yeah, Irina Zarutska, beautiful young girl. This girl could have been a model for Victoria's Secret or some big magazine. Beautiful. She was killed because she was white by a black man that had been let out of, who had been in and out of like 14 or 15 times, been let out of the system, been let out of jail for crimes he had committed by a judge or a magistrate who wasn't even a lawyer.

59:46She hadn't even passed a bar exam. And so what's happening now, this is how the lack of a meritocracy in the United States and this DEI that's still lingering even in the Trump era because Trump couldn't come in. He can't do it all overnight, right? He hasn't even been in office a year yet. And he's doing – I think he's working as fast as a human being can possibly work to get all of these last vestiges of the Biden administration out of our government. Can't do it all at once. So you still have all these lingering symptoms of the old era, the Biden era. So you still have these holdovers and these judges that are still in.

1:00:21This magistrate didn't even pass the bar exam. She wasn't even a lawyer. Now she's a judge. This is what's happening because of this DEI. We want to see more people of color in these positions of power, in these judicial positions or whatever the position of power is. We've totally abandoned the need for people to earn what they get in America. But it's coming back under Trump. It's coming back. But that was the result of this terrible magistrate's decision to let him out of jail once again. And what did he do? He went, didn't even say a word to the girl, sitting behind her, got up and stabbed.

1:00:52What kind of piece of shit coward do you have to be to stab a young girl like that from behind with no warning? What kind of piece of shit do you have to be? And he sat there and he contemplated that for a while. He made a solid decision. Oh, yeah. I'm going to end it. And then when he got up, he said, I just got that white girl. I just got that white girl. So we know right there it was a hate crime. So he needs to be tried. And if it were up to me, he'd be skinned alive in front of the public. That would be his punishment is that he should be skinned alive in front of the public. And, you know, I wish that could be adjudicated as such.

1:01:25So that's what I would like to see for someone who does something like that. Same person that shot Charlie Kirk skinned alive publicly. Of course, after he's been found guilty, that should be his legal punishment. I'm not saying people should go out and do that. But, yeah, skinned alive publicly, I think that's what should happen. Yeah, I think most people would agree with you there because they were both harrowing, unprovoked, unnecessary, completely avoidable murders. End of life, terrible. Terrible note to end on. But before I ask you the final question, which will be more of a chirpy one, where can people find you?

1:01:58I think you're going to be very popular off the back of this episode. So tell me your social media platforms and I'll put the links in the description. Well, first of all, I want to thank you for having me on. You're such a great patriot and it's just an honor for me to be sitting here across the table. I'm honored to have you on. Yeah, thank you so much. I look forward to the rest of this weekend. People can find me at Real Don Keith is my handle on X. Please follow me there on Instagram at Real Don Keith. I was on TikTok, but they got rid of me because they don't like what I have to say. And then it's on YouTube.

1:02:26My YouTube channel is at The Real Beef. So you can find all those places. You've started building your YouTube, aren't you? I've just started building YouTube. Now, I've had a YouTube channel for a while, but I just never, because back in the Biden era and before that, they kept canceling me. But now I've found that they're actually letting me say what I want to say, which is shocking. But yeah, heck yeah, I like YouTube now. So I've just started. I think I've got 4 ,000 subscribers, so I haven't been on it that long. But whatever you guys can do to give me a follow, I'd appreciate it. We'll put the links in.

1:02:52And I imagine people watching this will jump over almost immediately after this interview is finished. So the final question is, what is your final message to the people of Great Britain? Never give up. You have a fantastic country here. You have a fantastic history. Your country spawned the most powerful nation in the world, America. You should always be proud of that. We got what we have in America. We got it from your systems of government. We got it from your heritage. Everything we have in America, we got from you originally. Be proud of that. You can be that again. you can be America. Do not take this tyranny and do not take this bullshit from your government.

1:03:31You can do something about it, but everyone has to rise up and do it today. We're going to do it peacefully this weekend. We're going to have a nice, peaceful, free speech, fun festival this weekend, and it all starts there. Support, regardless of what you've ever heard about Tommy Robinson in the past, it's all a lie. Understand that he's the greatest patriot your nation has ever known. Come out and support Tommy Robinson and the Unite the Kingdom movement because this is the future of Great Britain. And this is the only thing that's going to save it is all of you people rising up and believing in the empire that the British nation once was and can be again.

1:04:11Yeah, if we take care of the culture, the politicians can take care of the politics on our advice, not theirs. And with that said, man, so glad you flew in, so glad we've done this. Yeah, thank you, man. I'm glad to. Love your energy and your patriotism and you as a whole. Good help, brother. Yeah, thank you. Love you, brother. Cheers, man. Yeah, take care, man.

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