Ex-Muslim EXPOSES Islamic No-Go Zones: Virginnia Logan

26 Feb 2026 · 59 min · 25 chapters

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In short

Virginia Logan, an ex-Muslim and Christian street preacher, argues that Islam contains violent teachings (especially apostasy/death penalties) and that the UK has “no-go zones” where police and councils avoid Christian activity. She claims Christians face bans and restrictions (e.g., “March for Jesus” in Whitechapel/Tower Hamlets) while Muslim events are facilitated. She also argues “Islamophobia” is used to silence criticism, proposes a “Christophobia” law instead, and claims Islamic migration is driven by an agenda to impose Sharia, citing Whitechapel enforcement claims and “inactive Sharia courts.”

Guest background

Logan grew up non-religious, joined gangs as a teen, later married a Muslim man and entered Islamic life (niqab/covering, mosque/Quran study, Peace TV). She says she converted, then left Islam after fear and theological stress, including the belief “every Muslim will go to hell.” She later became Christian after a 2015 suicide attempt and support from Christian women; she reports sobriety since 2018.

Key claims/examples

Quran verses used to justify violence; she cites Nigeria (30–35 deaths/day), Iran/Sudan/Saudi Arabia/Sharia law, and an alleged family slaughter in Egypt. She cites UK terror incidents (London bombings, Lee Rigby, Manchester Arena) and says MI5 intercepted 47 terror plots with ~90% linked to Islamic ideology. She describes being threatened while preaching in Muslim areas and recounts a near-death experience in Ukraine humanitarian work.

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Islamic Extremism and Its Implications

0:00 to 1:00

Exploring the violent verses in the Quran and the consequences of leaving Islam.

“Cut their fingers off, cut their neck, behead them.”

Discrimination Against Christians in the UK

2:25 to 6:30

Examining the bias towards Muslims and the challenges faced by Christians.

“So there is a bias towards Muslims and towards Islam in the United Kingdom.”

Personal Journey Through Islam

6:30 to 7:50

Virginia shares her experiences of being involved with gangs and converting to Islam.

“I know personally women who are in this position, but I've heard from friends and from other Christian ministers that men as well.”

The Struggles of Practicing Islam

7:50 to 12:00

Discussing the pressures and fears associated with being a Muslim.

“and then through my home experiences and everything I went through as a child in a really toxic environment.”

Questioning the Nature of God

12:00 to 14:00

Virginia reflects on her understanding of God and the teachings of Islam.

“So this was the message I was telling Christians they needed to become Muslim, telling them the Bible had been changed and Jesus was only a prophet and all of those things that you hear Muslims say.”

The Concept of Hell in Islam

14:00 to 15:10

Explore the beliefs surrounding punishment and the afterlife in Islam.

“The most religious sheikh, you name any Muslim that you think is the most pious Muslim that's following that religion to a T, you will go to hell for a period of time to pay the price for your sins.”

Heaven's Role and Gender Perspectives

15:10 to 17:10

Discusses the perceived roles of men and women in Islamic paradise and critiques the 72 virgin narrative.

“Islam is a religion that appeals to what I would say is the lust of man's flesh.”

Violent Verses in the Quran

17:10 to 19:40

Analyzes the context and implications of violent verses in the Quran and their use by extremists.

“They're killing babies in front of their parents.”

Islamophobia: A Discussion on Free Speech

19:40 to 21:10

Examines the concept of Islamophobia and its implications on free speech and public discourse.

“OK, we are being gagged and muzzled as people of having an opinion about an ideology that we, let's just talk about Britain as the British people, what we've experienced in the name of Islam in the UK.”

Islamic Migration and Its Impact

21:10 to 23:10

Discusses the implications of Islamic migration in the UK and the fears associated with it.

“And I believe in the UK, we have a genuine reason to fear the religion and the ideology Islam because of the atrocities, the evil, the wickedness that's been done in its name.”
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The Agenda Behind Islamic Migration

23:10 to 28:00

Explores the underlying motives and potential agenda behind the influx of Muslim migrants into the UK.

“And this is why we're seeing what we're seeing in Iran right now, we're seeing these lions that have arisen, that are resisting and, you know, rebelling against this ideology.”

Concerns About Islam's Influence in the UK

28:00 to 30:59

Explore the speaker's views on the perceived rise of Islamic influence in the UK and the concept of no-go zones.

“I've never felt afraid by a Jewish person.”

The Weakening of Christianity and Its Challenges

31:00 to 37:19

Discuss the speaker's perspective on the decline of Christianity and the need for a stronger Christian presence.

“But when it topples over to over 50 % right now, Tower Hamlets is 40 % Muslim.”

Personal Risks and Family Dynamics

37:20 to 42:00

Hear about the speaker's personal experiences with threats and family rejection due to their beliefs.

“And that's what we are as Christians, that we're supposed to be anyway.”

Clashing Beliefs: Personal and Political

42:00 to 42:59

Explore the difficulties faced due to differing beliefs within family dynamics.

“She's an atheist and she's involved in the Labour Party and we're completely different.”

Critique of the Black Lives Matter Movement

43:00 to 44:18

Discussion on the perceived silence of BLM regarding suffering in Nigeria.

“It's interesting the Black Lives Matter movement.”

Pro-Palestinian Movements: A Critical View

44:19 to 45:59

Critique of pro-Palestinian influencers' lack of awareness about broader issues.

“Did you actually think it was about black lives mattering?”

A Personal Journey through Darkness

46:00 to 48:29

A recount of the speaker's struggles with depression and suicidal thoughts.

“Especially Christians, we are the lowest of the chain because of what we believe about Jesus, that we believe is the son of God and not a prophet.”

Finding Hope and Turning to Faith

48:30 to 51:42

Describes a transformative moment leading to a renewed interest in Christianity.

“And he started to send people to me to try and talk to me about Jesus.”

Contrasting Islam and Christianity

51:43 to 54:10

Comparison of beliefs and experiences between Islam and Christianity.

“The next minute I want to commit suicide drive off a bridge and it was just irrational.”

Experiencing Fulfillment Through Faith

54:11 to 55:41

The speaker shares a personal transformation and newfound sense of fulfillment.

“I felt like before I was just in religion trying to do good things.”

Virginia's Social Media Presence

56:00 to 56:22

Explore Virginia's preferred social media platforms and their relevance.

“Okay, we'll put Virginia's links into the description.”

Reforming the Church of England

56:22 to 57:06

Virginia shares her vision for reforming the Church of England.

“if you was head of the Church of England, how would you reform it?”

Critique of the King’s Actions

57:06 to 57:48

Discussion on the King's actions during Easter and their implications.

Final Thoughts and Farewell

57:48 to 58:39

Closing remarks on Virginia's thoughts and future discussions.

“He needs to turn back to, I believe he's committed treason.”
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0:00Every single Muslim will go to hell. Cut their fingers off, cut their neck, behead them. These are verses in the Quran. Are those violent verses in or out of context? This is not just Islamic extremism. This is Islam. People are killed, beheaded, slaughtered, hung for leaving Islam and converting to Christianity. As a young girl, I was involved with gang members and gangs. A lot of those gang members were converting to Islam. Islam is a religion that just appeals to men's wants. They hate the culture of Britain, and yet they're coming into the UK. Why? 6 % of the UK population is Muslim. Why do they have so much power?

0:36There's an agenda in this nation for Islam to just take over. I refuse to eat halal meat just out of principle. We are being gagged and muzzled. There's no-go zones, but no-one tells me where I can and can't go. Even the police won't go there because they're afraid. Just imagine what they'll do to you if you continue.

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1:50virginia thanks for coming on it's great to be here finally in the hot seat yeah well you're a Christian preacher, which I think the UK is in desperate need of. I want to talk to you about that. Islamophobia, leaving Islam. If the replacement theory is a theory. And also no-go zones. And I'll explain why I mean no-go zones as we go on. So let's start with recent Christian marches and gatherings that have recently been banned in Whitechapel and Tower Hamlets. I think you're supposed to walk through those and promote Christianity and it never come to fruition. Can we go through that? Yeah, absolutely.

2:26So there is a bias towards Muslims and towards Islam in the United Kingdom. It's like Christians have become the minority and they've become the discriminated against group. And what you will often see is you will see that Muslims are allowed to do these huge events. So you saw it on London Bridge. I think it was either London Bridge or Tower Bridge in London. And a few years ago, there was a huge Islamic call to prayer that was being echoed over the River Thames. And the police were there lining up, protecting them, facilitating it to happen. And then when it comes to Christians doing stuff, it seems to be blocked, blockaded, stopped and restricted all the time.

3:14And an example of that is back in October, there was a Jesus march that was going to take place along the streets of Whitechapel, where they were going to do a march for Jesus there. And it was banned. It was stopped. And around the same time that the march was going to take place, there was that same weekend, a thousand Muslim men masked up in black masks, all wearing black, march those streets claiming that land for Allah, declaring Allah Akbar, declaring that land belonged to Allah. And so we're seeing this regularly with this discrimination against Christians and this let's promote and support Islam and let's just make way for Muslims to do what they want to do, but let's stop Christians at all costs doing anything.

4:03The most recent time that happened was back, was it a week ago? there was a march for Jesus going to take place again along the streets of Whitechapel. It was banned. There was an accusation made that it was a political march, that it was an anti-immigration march, that it was an anti-Islamic march. But actually, the whole focus of that march was to exalt Jesus, to worship Jesus, to pray, to worship, to sing songs about Jesus. And that's what was going to be happening that day. But it was banned, it was stopped. Who is doing the banning and stopping? Is it the local council? The local council, but the local Muslims in that area, the Muslim community are pressing for things to not happen.

4:50When it's a Christian event or it's anything to do with Jesus or if it's anything that they believe is anti-Islamic or against their culture, they'll put a stop to it. And they're working with the council coming together to put a stop to it, along with Stand Up to Racism and the LGBTQ community and all these communities come together to put a stop to the Jesus March taking place. And instead, they did a pro-Palestine event right outside the station where we were going to be meeting for the march. And so no one can tell me where I can and can't go. I know there's no go zones, but no one tells me where I can and can't go.

5:28Because as a Christian, I believe I can go anywhere, especially in a nation that has been built on Christianity, Christianity that's been built on Christian values and I believe is still a Christian nation. I have the right to go where I want to go. So we went, a few of us, to Whitechapel on Saturday and we did what we did. We proclaimed the name of Jesus on the streets there. And it was great. It's funny because we had a great time, actually. Surprisingly enough, I had Muslim girls clapping and cheering me on as I was preaching, like cheering me on, saying well done, keep going. Muslim girls, hijabi girls.

6:04That'd be interesting to unpack that with them. Why are you cheering that? Are you sick of being covered? I think that's one of the reasons, yeah. I think part of it is the seeing a woman who's confident, who's bold, who's standing there and ashamed and unafraid and not suppressed. And she's doing it anyway, regardless of that she's in a Muslim area. And I think that's part of it. But also I do believe, and I do know this factually, that a lot of Muslims secretly have rejected Islam and they actually are either professing in their heart or inside, maybe not declared it publicly, but they're people that no longer believe the Islamic religion or they're converting to Christianity.

6:49Is this men and women? I know personally women who are in this position, but I've heard from friends and from other Christian ministers that men as well. imams, sheikhs, Islamic leaders that are currently, and I'm talking all over the world, that are currently still, they look like Muslim, they still profess to be Muslim publicly, but they've renounced Islam and they're really Christians and they've got a mandate and an agenda to get in the mosques and to teach as many people in their mosques about Christianity. You speak of Islam, you're ex-Muslim. Yeah. So you're qualified to discuss Islam. So no one can jump down your throat in the comments and say, well, what would you know about Islam?

7:35That's true. Tell me what you do know about Islam. You married a Muslim man. I did. Yeah, I did. I grew up in a non-religious home. So our home was really non-religious, kind of chaotic, just loads of stuff going on in there, in that home, really far from religion. and then through my home experiences and everything I went through as a child in a really toxic environment. As a teenager, I went looking for identity, meaning, and I found that meaning in various different things. One of them was that I got involved with gangs. So as a young girl, I was involved with gang members and gangs and I was in that kind of lifestyle for a while.

8:15and what happened was a lot of those gang members were converting to Islam and so through that that was the very first time I heard about Islam was through these people that were coming out of prison that I knew who had converted to Islam and so I'd stay up and I was really drawn to to learning about religion and I was always open and so I started to to learn and to read and to study Islam. And I'd have these long conversations about Islam and about Allah, about God, about all these things, I was really drawn. And then what happened, I met my ex-husband and we, you know, fall in love. And eventually, I was only young, I was in my early 20s at this point.

8:58And we, you know, I was told that if I wanted to stay in a relationship with him, I needed to get married. So we had an Islamic marriage. And for me, because I wasn't a Muslim, this marriage didn't mean anything to me. It was just a tick box so I could stay in a relationship. But it was an Islamic niqa. So we had a niqa ceremony. And it was after that marriage that things in the marital home started to change where I had to dress a certain way. I had to cover up certain parts of my body, not having them on show and dressing them what they would call a modest way. And so I started to just really hate Islam.

9:38I started to hate the culture. I started to rebel against it. I started to just really hate what I felt was control. And I was in this time force fed Peace TV, which is the Islamic TV channel where they have all the Islamic preachers. The irony. Yeah. Peace TV. Peace TV. I know, right? Yeah, the irony. so I would be force fed I'd have to watch these Islamic preachers Zaki Knight, Khalid Yassin one of them was what they would call a reaver somebody who was converted to Islam and wasn't born a Muslim and so that was how I got introduced to Islam on a more deeper level was through being in an Islamic culture the family were very religious their mother covered her hair they prayed five times a day so they were a very religious family and so it was through that marriage that I started to really study Islam I would go to the mosque every Sunday and I was learning the Quran so I was being taught the Quran I was being taught about Islam I was going to these Islamic open days where I would ask questions about Islam and I would there was a particular guy there he's a sheikh and I would ask him all these difficult questions and I'm like no Islam's not the truth because of this and And we'd go back and forth until eventually, because of the pressure and because of just how uncomfortable I felt in that marriage, we ended up getting divorced.

11:04But it was after that, that I converted to Islam. Myself made a decision to become a Muslim, said my Shahada, which is a confession of faith. You basically profess that there's one God, Allah, and Muhammad is the prophet of Allah. and so I converted to Islam officially and that was when I became really passionate about Islam because it was no longer me being forced to be a Muslim but I was now choosing it myself and I was at this point from going back and forth with a sheikh and having these Quran lessons I was convinced Islam was the truth so I was in a place where I was now talking to Christians telling them that Islam is the truth that the Bible's been changed and they need to become a Muslim because if they don't, they're going to go to hell.

11:51That Christianity will send you to hell because that's the only thing that you can do is attribute and partners with Allah is that you can never be forgiven by God. Okay. So this was the message I was telling Christians they needed to become Muslim, telling them the Bible had been changed and Jesus was only a prophet and all of those things that you hear Muslims say. And I was passionate about Islam. But the more that I studied Islam, the more I'd go to the mosque, the more I'd learn the Quran. There was things I learned that made me question who Allah was. There was a stark contrast between what I was learning about Allah and who I believed God was in terms of...

12:33We believed him to be. Yeah. And so one of the main things for me was that we were praying five times a day. I was trying to be the best Muslim I was trying to do everything right with fast Ramadans I fasted several Ramadans while I was a Muslim and during the day as well you're also saying prayers and I'm trying to live this good life as a Muslim and instead of me feeling peace I felt fear because if I did anything wrong if I stepped out of line or if I made a mistake or if I didn't follow it correctly then I knew that I was going to hell. It sounds stressful. It was very stressful. I had no peace.

13:17Living on eggshells. Living on eggshells, yeah. Living on eggshells. I've always thought it's excessive for a God to expect somebody to get on their knees five times a day and pray to them. It sounds like maybe he's a narcissist. Well, this is where I was at with who I believed, what I believed about God, the creator God, who created the beautiful creation I looked at. And then also now this Allah that I was learning about who I believe was the true God. And the thing for me was that when I was in the mosque, this was the thing that really stuck with me that made me develop hatred towards God.

13:53And it was that no matter what you do as a Muslim, no matter how good you are, no matter how many times you pray, no matter how many good things you do, how many times you give to charity, how many times you do good things. You will go to hell. Allah will send you to hell. Every single Muslim will go to hell. The most religious sheikh, you name any Muslim that you think is the most pious Muslim that's following that religion to a T, you will go to hell for a period of time to pay the price for your sins. And this wasn't what it was for me. I said, well, so I can live this really good life and still go to hell.

14:34Allah will still send me to hell. So, and that was it. Yeah. Every Muslim, even Muhammad will go to hell for a period of time. Even Muhammad did not know where he was going to spend eternity. Muhammad couldn't promise any Muslim paradise. You know that Muslims are living for this paradise. They're praying five times a day. They're doing all this good stuff, right? Covering up, you know, doing all these good things. But... What about the whole 72 virgin theory? From a female, how does that grab you? Yeah. And this was one of the other things for me was that my role in heaven, what was my role in heaven?

15:10What was my reward in heaven? You're going to be the fluffer. Well, was I going to be... Was I one of the virgins? I don't know, you know. And this is... Islam is a religion that appeals to what I would say is the lust of man's flesh. As a Christian, You know, we talk about this battle between good and evil, this battle between the physical desires and the spiritual desires. And Islam is a religion that just appeals to men's wants. That's what I believe Islam is. You know all the violent verses in the Quran? I tried to get a straight answer out of a previous guest. I won't name him because they would have watched anyway.

15:48But I tried to pinpoint him down and say the violent verses in the Quran, I'm sure you're going to tell me that they're taken out of context. If that's the case, how can we make it or how can Muslims make it clear that they are taken out of context? Because people are using these verses to go and strike the fear of Allah into people, use it for political jihad, rape gang jihad. They're not particularly pleasant. So from your opinion, from studying the Quran, are those violent verses in or out of context? So if you read those verses, it's speaking about punishments against disbelievers. OK, there are certain things that if you leave Islam in the Quran, if you if you are a person that rejects Islam, an apostate, if you leave Islam and you become a Christian or you leave Islam and you follow another religion, it's particularly specifically Christianity.

16:42then the punishment is death. That is the punishment. The punishment is death. You're an apostate and you can be killed for converting to Christianity. And this, if those verses are taken out of context, then fair enough if it's these extremists. So I would just say Islamic extremists, if they're using those verses to commit atrocities that do happen around the world. Let's just take Nigeria, for example. In Nigeria, you've got these Islamic extremists that are committing these atrocities. They're killing babies in front of their parents. It's a Christian genocide. They're killing the parents in front of their children.

17:23This is what's happening. And between 30 and 35 people a day are being killed in Nigeria. That's Islamic extremism. They're extremists that are, I would say, using that religion to commit atrocities in the name of Islam. However, there's nations such as Iran, the Iranian regime. There's nations like Sudan, like Somalia, Afghanistan, Eritrea, Saudi Arabia. And these nations, their law is Sharia law. And under Sharia law, this is not Islamic extremism. This is not taking verses out of context. This is Islamic law. And under Islamic law, on a regular basis, people are killed, beheaded, slaughtered, hung for leaving Islam and converting to Christianity.

18:15Muslims have a problem. They look up highly to Saudi Arabia. Okay. Egypt. You just look at Egypt. What happens to people in Egypt when they leave Islam? They get killed. I was in Egypt. I was in Egypt last year in the middle of the year and a whole family was slaughtered and killed for rejecting Islam and becoming Christians. This happened in Egypt last year, a whole family was slaughtered. So if these verses are taken out of context, these nations are putting laws in place around these verses to kill people who reject Islam, to cut their fingers off. These are Quran verses, cut their neck, behead them.

18:57These are verses in the Quran that they practice as a law. This is Sharia law is in place in these nations. So this is not just Islamic extremism. This is the Islamic ideology. The Islamic ideology is violent. The Islamic ideology supports and promotes the death of people that leave Islam, and that is the ideology. So this is not just radical Islam. This is Islam. So with all that in mind, that plethora of knowledge and information that you've gathered over the years because you've studied it, all you've got to do now is criticise Islam to be branded Islamophobia. That word is thrown about like confetti.

19:35They're trying to introduce blasphemy laws. Absolutely. So with all of your knowledge and wisdom on the ideology, what are your thoughts on the word Islamophobia? What's it used to do? OK, we are being gagged and muzzled as people of having an opinion about an ideology that we, let's just talk about Britain as the British people, what we've experienced in the name of Islam in the UK. OK, from let's go back to 2007, the London bombings, the underground tube bombings. Yeah, then we look at what happened then with Lee Rigby, stabbed to death by an Islamic extremist. Then you go back to in 2017, Manchester, the Manchester Arena bombing, where an Islamic extremist, OK, bombed the arena in Manchester, killing 22 kids.

20:27We have continual violence that is done in the name of Islam. In the name of Islam. We saw it with a synagogue in Manchester recently, with a Jewish synagogue. We saw it with Bondi Beach. And then there's been multiple things where we're seeing a genuine concern around Islam and the ideology of Islam. So for the Islamophobia law to be even discussed in the House of the Parliament, to be even discussed by our prime minister and our leaders, is an insult to the British people. is an insult to me as an individual person that if I have a fear about Islam, that is not irrational. That's a genuine fear.

21:10And I believe in the UK, we have a genuine reason to fear the religion and the ideology Islam because of the atrocities, the evil, the wickedness that's been done in its name. And it's not only that we're seeing these incidents that have taken place. Since 2017, the MI5 have intercepted 47 late-stage terror plots that have been planned in the UK. Nearly 90 % of these incidents are from Islamic ideology. I can even talk on a personal level. We're looking at people at Speaker's Corner who were there talking about Jesus. One particular woman, she's an ex-Muslim, she was there talking about Jesus.

21:57and she criticised Muhammad. She said, Muhammad isn't a prophet. And she was criticising the Quran and the Quran had holes in it and she was just going for it. Somebody tried to stab her. They went for her neck. They caught her face. And what happened in that incident was she was removed. Not the guy that did it to her. She was removed. She was treated like the criminal. And this is what we see is that anyone that has an opinion about Islam, a right opinion, an opinion based on reality, an opinion based on facts. There's this label of Islamophobia, but it's not irrational. So it's not a phobia.

22:37Islamophobia, I believe, is caused by genuine things that have been done in the name of Islam. And I believe people have a right to be concerned about that ideology and about that religion. Because if you look at the nations that have Islamic ideology as their head of their nation, they have Islamic law. You look at these nations and you look and you see Iran as one of those nations. What happens when a people are governed by Islam? They end up rebelling. They end up wanting to get out of that. It's oppressive. It's controlling. Nobody wants Islamic law. And this is why we're seeing what we're seeing in Iran right now, we're seeing these lions that have arisen, that are resisting and, you know, rebelling against this ideology.

23:29So Islamophobia, I believe, is used, it's unnecessary. I believe it's used to control, to gag and to muzzle. I believe it's used to just take people's right of free speech away. That's what I believe. And I believe that it's not necessary, right? This is what concerns me about Islam, because I believe there's an agenda in this nation for Islam to just take over. I'm interested in who you think is behind Islamic migration. And it's strange because the more Muslims that enter the country, the less we're allowed to talk about them. It should be the other way around. So what's your theory on who's behind it all?

24:05So what we're seeing is we're seeing 6 % of the UK population is Muslim, 6.5%. 6.5 % of the UK population have so much power and are able to even dictate now and sway laws. An Islamophobia law would be necessary if there was incidents against Muslims that warranted that level of protection for Muslims. There is not incidents that happen against Muslims, terror incidents. There is not like mass scale incidents where Muslims are killed, slaughtered, butchered, are at risk of their safety, physical safety on a mass scale like non-Muslims are from Islam. OK, so we don't need an Islamophobia law. We need a Christophobia law, actually, that protects Christians and other people from Islam.

24:56That's what we need. Who's behind? You asked me who was behind the Islamic migration. It's very interesting because if you look at the illegal immigration, those that are coming in on the small boats, most of them are coming from nations like Afghanistan, Sudan, Somalia, Eritrea. They're coming from Muslim nations. These nations, I'm not talking about extremism now. I'm talking about on a national level, these nations hate Christianity. Christianity is most persecuted by these nations. Christians in those nations Where the majority of the people Coming into the UK On the small boats Are coming from And they're Muslim Muslim Coming from nations That hate Christianity Right And those nations They The persecution Christians Face in those nations Is Is unmatched It's unlike Anywhere else in the world Highest level of persecution I'm talking Christians Being punished Like Seven to ten year Prison sentence For converting to Christianity Christians being killed, children being killed, like gang raped, beheaded, given the death penalty.

26:08That's the law. They hate Christianity. They hate the culture of Britain because the culture of Britain is built on Christianity. And yet they're coming into the UK. Why? What's the motive of you coming into the UK? This will shock you. 47 % of Muslims that are born outside of the UK That come to the UK as immigrants Want Sharia law And this is why you see these people Stood on the street Shouting Sharia law They want Sharia law This is why you see it 10 years ago in Whitechapel You saw these people patrolling the streets They were the Muslim Brotherhood patrolling the streets, telling people they couldn't eat certain foods in Whitechapel because it's a Muslim area.

27:00You can't drink alcohol in Whitechapel, it's a Muslim area. You can't dress like that in Whitechapel, it's a Muslim area. And they were enforcing Sharia law in the UK, in Whitechapel. Okay, that's interesting that you think that the Muslim Brotherhood are behind the Islamic invasion, which I would definitely agree with. You've got no loyalty to Judaism because you're Christian. so the whole there's a lot of people that think the Jews are behind it all like what are your thoughts on that you just look at the way that Muslims attack Jews you just look at what happened in Bondi Beach in Australia just look at what happened in in the synagogue okay the common enemy that we all have is not Jews Jews are peaceful people I've never had an issue with a Jew okay I've been preaching in Muslim areas because I just like to go to those areas I like a challenge And I'm telling you this, I've faced so much threat, violence, like threats of violence, intimidation.

28:01I've never felt afraid by a Jewish person. In fact, Jews always celebrate what we do. They say, I'm a Jew, but I like what you're doing. A lot of the time, particularly Muslim men will attack. They will shout Allah Akbar. They'll repel the Christian message. and only as it has been with Muslim, particularly men, sometimes women, that I've felt in danger when I've been sharing the Christian message in the UK, in a Christian country on the streets. So I believe with the immigration, we're seeing, I do believe there's an agenda to come here and to make this nation an Islamic nation. Islamify it. Look at Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets, the councillors, the mayor, all Muslim.

28:47What Muslims are good at doing, I'll say I respect this about them, is they're good at getting into places of power and dominating and controlling. There's several stages of Islam. Stage one is that they come in as victims. We need refuge. We need safety. We need protecting. stage two is that then they try to influence culture they try to influence government they try to even like you see them gathering in mass you see them gathering in mass amounts of people you saw it in white chapel in october thousand men march in the streets masked up intimidating i mean crazy you just think about even what the government have said about other marches that have took place.

29:31Yeah. You see what it's intimidating. It's threatening towards Muslims. This is not, Keir Starmer's very open about this, that we're not having this in our nation. We will not have this Islamophobic behavior. But at the same time, a thousand Muslim men masked up, marching the street, shouting Allah Akbar, like looking intimidating, doesn't say anything. silent no comment you'll find Sadiq Khan or Kir Starmer doesn't say anything so coming back to your question because I want to answer it is Islam is trying to dominate the UK the same way as it dominated Egypt the same way as it dominated Iran the same way as it's dominated every other nation that was previously not Muslim they are trying to do it here you've got 200 Sharia law courts that are inactive currently.

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30:27But I'll tell you this, all it's waiting for is that tipping point where you get a Muslim majority area. So right now you've got Rochdale over in the north of England. You've got Bradford in the north of England, which are considered no-go zones, simply because there are inactive Sharia law courts there that even the police won't go there because they're afraid to go there. I believe Whitechapel is considered as one of those no-go zones. It's one of those places where it's such a strong Muslim community. Even the police are afraid to even interject in anything that's going on there. But when it topples over to over 50 % right now, Tower Hamlets is 40 % Muslim.

31:12Once it topples over to 50%, that's when you'll start to see them pressing for more Islamic, that we want this as a Muslim area. We want this to take place. we want that to happen, they'll start to dictate because they have the majority there. Right now, they don't. I don't believe they have a majority in any area. But you've got 40 % Muslim area in Whitechapel. Once they get to that place, they will want Sharia law activated in an area. And this is what you will see. And then eventually, I believe that they will just start to be that they'll start to make this nation more and more Islamic. You're seeing it already.

31:51Try and go to a restaurant that you can get meat that is not halal meat. There's not one restaurant. I have to, I don't, I refuse to eat halal meat just out of principle. I'm not being force fed to eat meat, Muslim meat when I'm not a Muslim. I won't eat halal or kosher. Do you know what I mean? I'm not, yeah, I'm just not going to do it. I'm a Christian. Why should I be forced to eat halal meat? Six percent of the UK population is Muslim. Why do they have so much power? Well, do you believe those stats? I mean, if you go and walk around Leeds, Luton, Tower Hamlets, Whitechapel, and someone says, oh, it's only 6.5%, I think I've got to challenge those stats.

32:34I'm not entirely convinced. But what I am convinced of is that Christianity is a hell of a lot weaker than it's ever been. And do you think that that's purposefully being done? And who is weakening the faith? It's meant to be our faith. Yeah, I think there's a few different reasons for that. And how does it bounce back? So take me through that journey. Why is it weak? Who's making it weak and how does it bounce back? Yeah, so there's a few different dynamics with Christianity is that we have seen a weak representation of Christianity from the church. Like, let's go to church on a Sunday. Let's just be nice people that never offend.

33:09Let's just be politically correct. We're supposed to just be loving and nice and kind to everybody. That's what being a good Christian is. You never argue. You never disagree. You never have a strong opinion. You never offend. This is what nice Christianity is. This is who Jesus is. In the Bible, Jesus is described as the lamb and he's described as the lion. And the thing is that Christians love the lamb-like Jesus, the nice, kind, gentle, meek, mild Jesus. In one of the Bible scriptures, you see that Jesus, he was in the temple where they would worship. And in the temple, there was this table that was set apart.

33:55And these people were doing activity and doing different activities that were dishonoring and disrespectful to God in that temple. Right. So Jesus got so angry at them that he said he made a whip of cords and chased them out of the of the temple. Right. For dishonoring what that temple was made for. Right. And then not only that, he came back and he flipped the table over. So you see a type of Jesus that Christians today don't want to acknowledge. They want the nice Jesus, but they don't want the Jesus that challenged. We need an angry Jesus. Time and time again. Time and time. I'm telling you, Jesus is angry.

34:37about what is going on in our nation. He's angry even, I believe, at the mentality of many Christians who have just sat back, have allowed things on their watch to happen. They've allowed Islamic invasion into the UK to happen, right? If you just look at the terrorists that have committed the worst incidents in the UK, none of them were born in the UK. You see that they were born in nations like Syria, Libya, Sudan, Somalia. They weren't born in the UK. They're brought up with a different kind of mentality, which I believe is influenced largely by Islamic ideology. We need to come away from, I believe, this soft, nice, flowery, fluffy Christianity.

35:18And we need to rise up as warrior-like Christians. When I read the scriptures, I read a Christianity that is supposed to be warrior-like. I read scriptures that talk about armor. They talk about helmets, breastplates, shields, swords. I see a kind of Christianity that needs to rise up, that's strong, that's what some people would call muscular, that's a fighter, that defends the faith. Throughout the scriptures, you read these verses that say, as Christians, we're called to contend for the faith, to defend the faith, to guard the faith, to stand for the faith. There's nothing about Christianity that's soft.

36:03You look at the early Christians, the early followers of Jesus, they were not soft on a daily basis. They faced death to defend the faith, to contend for the faith, to stand for the faith. That's the type of Christianity that we need in this time, one that rises up in its full strength, that guards again, that stands again, that defends again, that refuses to be a pushover again. And because we've been a pushover for so long, I believe like so many people that you see converting to Islam, I believe it's because they've seen this weak Christianity. There's been a pushover that just sits back like a doormat and just lets all this happen on its watch and doesn't stand up.

36:46And in comparison, you've got Islam, which is a force. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And it's strong. Yeah, it's strong. And I believe that that's what we need. I believe that's why many have turned away from the faith. They've gone, they, you know, they're not following Christianity. They're not going to church because there's nothing in church for them other than just this, like, come to church, be a good person, be a nice person. They're not being trained to be ones that fight for the faith, that stand for the faith, that contend for the faith, that represent the faith as ambassadors, as warriors for Christ.

37:20And that's what we are as Christians, that we're supposed to be anyway. I wonder how long it will be, because you're a street preacher, I wonder how long it will be before the words that you've just used on this podcast will become a crime. I mean, how do you preach freely with all the free speech barriers put in place? How do you do it now and how will you do it if they become more tight? Well, you know, I know people who've been arrested for preaching. They've been told they can't preach. They've been given public order notices to not preach. Yet at the same time, I'm seeing Muslims, they're allowed to preach.

37:58They're allowed to have their speaker going with the azan. But it's Christians, we get complaints all the time. We get asked to stop. We get told to move on. we get restricted, we get told we can't do this in this area, we get banned, we get police coming and saying we've got to move on, you can't do this, turn the speaker off. And it's always against the Christians. I never see it with the Muslims. I see them freely allowed to do what they're doing. And actually there's more and more restriction on street preachers. Last year in a certain area, it was like Farnham, around the area down the south of England, they had a ban in place in a particular part of that area where no one could do any Christian they couldn't share the Christian message, they couldn't preach the Christian message they couldn't even do one-on-one and give out flyers, it was completely banned it went through court and everything, no one could do anything there and then there was another area in I believe in Leicester as well where that took place And you see, it's always against the Christian message.

39:04What kind of attacks have you come under? Personally. Yeah. Yeah, so me personally, I would say the biggest attacks I've come under have been from Muslims in Muslim areas. And that's where I would say the most significant threatening incidents have taken place in highly Muslim areas, mainly by men, sometimes by women as well. But the most, I would say, aggressive incidents have been by men who just hate the fact that I'm preaching about Christianity in a Muslim area. That you dare. And they've said that, like, this is a Muslim area. We don't want to hear this. And just me being the way I am, I'm like, well, I'm doing it anyway.

39:43I don't care. Do you fear death? It's going to happen. I know that if I die, I know where I'm going. And, you know, I've had near-death experiences previously. um 2022 i had a situation where i i should have died shouldn't be here um what was that okay i was in the ukraine doing some humanitarian aid work there during the war we ended up on the front line of um the war there in a place called i always pronounce it wrong it's luhansk or luhansk which is on the border of russia and um we were in a bulletproof van uh taking aid and then um and then evacuating some people from the front line of the war to get them out.

40:24And on the way back, we came under siege from the Russian military. We were shot at several times. Our van was shot at and they then fired a rocket at us and it just missed us. You could feel the explosion. There was bombs going off around us. And I thought, this is it. This is my time. But we got out of that. And so I'm not afraid of death. I believe that if I die, I know where I'm going to be. I believe I'll go to heaven. And that's my life. What about jail? I believe as a Christian. Do you fear going to jail? Because that is now a possibility. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It is. The way you speak out, I mean, if people are getting in jail for tweets, I mean, just imagine what they'll do to you if you continue.

41:04Yeah, yeah. And I do believe that there's a risk of me getting arrested and going to jail for some of the things that I do on the streets. But I know what I've been called to do. I know I've got a mandate. I believe the Bible, as I've said. The command is to go out into all the world and preach the gospel. The early disciples were imprisoned, arrested, killed, beaten, crucified for this message. And this is the message that I've committed to, I've given my life for. And if that's what it takes, that's what it takes. And I won't stop. Have you been ostracised from any groups because of your opinions and outspokenness?

41:42My family, yeah. My family, none of them are believers, so I'm the only believer in my family. the only Christian. What, are they atheist? Yeah, some are. Yeah, so some are really strong atheists. And also politically, because, you know, a part of me is very political. One of my aunties is involved with the Labour Party. So there's just a bit of a clash there. She's an atheist and she's involved in the Labour Party and we're completely different. You're a Christian conservative? Yeah, I'm like on the other side of the coin. I bet that's fine Christmas Day. It's very interesting. we agree to not talk about religion god or politics we just keep keep the peace but uh yeah my family um they didn't like the fact i've become a christian they they you know rejected it i faced a lot of difficulties there with that um but they've started to warm um warm to me um they they also they're very different to me politically as well so when they've seen me with the union jack and and i'm out in public with that they hate that they're like you what are you doing like You shouldn't be doing that.

42:45And so, you know, it's been difficult with my family. But I stand on what I believe is true. I stand on what I believe that this nation needs. It needs strong people to fight for it. And I'll be one of them. What did you think about the Black Lives Matter wave that swept through the UK? It's interesting the Black Lives Matter movement. I find it interesting that they have nothing to say about Nigeria. There's an inter-Christian genocide of black people in Nigeria. Because white people aren't allowed to talk about it. I know, I know, I know. It's crazy. It's crazy, but it's just, it's one of those things that frustrates me is this gag on free speech that almost, that if you have a certain skin colour, now you can't, you're silenced because you're accused of racism or far-right extremism and Christian nationalism or nationalism or whatever.

43:35But this is just a reality. Black Lives Matter are silent when it comes to anything. an agenda, okay? Black Lives Matter have been silent about genocide in Nigeria. They've not said anything about it. There's 30 to 35 people dying every day in Nigeria. Nothing. In fact, so many, you see so much about that, like it's not happening and Muslims are being killed as well. It's not just Christians, but there's a targeted attack against Christians for their faith by the Boko Haram and BLM are saying nothing about, I believe BLM was a political movement. It was nothing to do with black lives. That was my question.

44:19Did you actually think it was about black lives mattering? I don't believe it was about black lives. It was about black lives that would be defending all black lives, including black Nigerian lives, which they haven't done. It's a bit like the pro-Palestinian lot that are saying nothing about Iran. Surely you'd care about both. Yeah, you see these influencers, these pro-Palestine influencers silent. I've challenged some of them, tagged them in on Instagram, like, what have you got to say about this? And some of their followers will message back or comment back and they'll say, we don't care about that.

44:51We just care about Palestine. Okay, out of the horse's mouth you speak. You just care about Palestine. And, you know, I'll tell you this. A lot of them don't know why it is what they're standing for. They don't really know even the history or the roots with Palestine. A lot of them are just standing because they think it's the right thing to stand for. But you ask them any questions. Ask them what is it they're standing against. What do they think is happening in Palestine? Most of them won't be able to sit. Don't know what they're doing. They're just there to stand for a cause. And I believe, again, the Palestine movement is a political agenda.

45:28I believe it's an Islamic agenda. You see it when I've seen the Palestine marches. I hear them chanting Allah Akbar. That is what Muslims will chant. And actually, it's even been known that they will say Allah Akbar when they're coming into a war situation. And the Intifada. Yeah. What's that, another kid all the Jews? Is that what they're saying out loud? So in Islam, Jews and Christians are like the worst. Like we are like the worst. Like we cannot be forgiven for what we follow, okay? Especially Christians, we are the lowest of the chain because of what we believe about Jesus, that we believe is the son of God and not a prophet.

46:10And I believe that the pro-Palestinian agenda is an Islamic agenda. You'll see it when they chant Allah waqba. That's nothing to do with Palestine. That's Islam. And that's what I've had spoken against me when I've been preaching and I've been threatened on numerous occasions by Muslim men for using apologetics and for challenging who Allah is, challenging who Muhammad is. And I've been threatened, you know, you need to stop. And they'll chant, Allah, Akbar. And in an intimidating, threatening way. And nothing, you know, nothing. And it's always just dismissed or they just seem to have so much power to get away with stuff.

47:01Yeah, most religious people I met, it's quite a personal question, they've experienced darkness at a stage in their life on a level that most people haven't. I tend not to be able to relate to someone that's not experienced a bereavement, for example. I think until you experience that, we're not on the same page. Unless we felt some kind of same pain, it's hard to connect with people. So a personal question, what's like the darkest moment of your life? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it was in 2015, I just hit rock bottom. So I left Islam after just coming to that point where I just withdrew from the people, withdrew from the community and I just went into rebellion mode.

47:40So I was drinking, going into bars, just sat there drinking on my own most of the time, suicidal, depressed. I was sat in a particular time in 2015. I was sat at my kitchen table in the lowest place. I just wanted to die. And I wrote a suicide note and I drank a whole bottle of vodka and I just went into an emotional frenzy. And I cut my arms and I was just in an emotional frenzy and I didn't want to live and I hated my life and it was just miserable. And I went into the town where I was living at the time and just wanted to jump in front of the train. And these two guys heard me. I was talking on the phone.

48:22I said, I'm just done. I just want to, I don't want to be here. These two guys come and pulled me away, talked me around. And then it was at that point where I believe God started to intervene in my life. And he started to send people to me to try and talk to me about Jesus. And I just said to them, listen, I'm not, I've tried God. It's not for me. And I was miserable in my life, but I didn't want religion. So I was looking into spiritualism, the new age. And I got into like Reiki healing, palm reading, spiritualism and crystals and all of that new age stuff. And it was at that point where I just said, I want something spiritual to heal me of this pain because I'm just rock bottom and miserable.

49:09I wasn't sleeping. I was living in fear. I was in torment just not just miserable and then it was 2015 when two girls stopped me on the streets in the local place where I lived and they said hey I just want to give you this we're giving roses out and they said you are loved so that's nice so I don't have any money to give you just take so I'm alright and they said no we want to give it you for free we want you to know God loves you and he has a plan for your life so I said yeah I've tried God. It's not for me. I've left religion. I'm good. I don't want to know. When in the nightclub I was on my way into, and I don't know what was going on inside of me.

49:51All I can describe it like was this stirring inside of me where I was, I just wanted to go back to these two girls and ask them, what do you mean? God loves me. Tell me about this God who loves me. So an hour later I left the club and I went to them and I said, you told me God loves me. What what do you mean? Because I, at this point, you know, in my life believed that I was destined for hell because I'd left Islam and I believed that I was like now in a place of unforgiveness because I'd rejected Islam. Do you think that's what triggered the depression? Potentially, yeah. I believe it was a contributing factor.

50:24Rather than a chemical imbalance, for example. No, I believe it was that. I believe it was my experience because I was already feeling really low and depressed while I was in Islam, full of fear. But I made that decision to leave Islam. and I believe just in that place I felt under underlying sense of I'm condemned because I've left the faith you know I'm an apostate and but what happened that night these girls didn't tell me about religion they didn't tell me about God they told me about my past everything I'd gone through in the past they told me about what I was going through right now and they told me about my future.

51:04Somehow they were able to tap in, I believe it was divine knowledge about my life. And they told me about things I'm doing now that they could not have possibly have known. And I was on the street just crying. And I remember in that moment, I felt a glimmer of hope. I felt a glimmer of hope in a dark place. I felt I saw light. And it was in that moment that I said, okay, there's something in this. And that's when I started to look into Christianity. Over that year, it took a year, but I started to really look into Christianity. And the way I looked into Christianity was through reading people's stories of how they became Christians.

51:44So I'd read these books of people that were from like these crazy backgrounds, like they were just atheists or they didn't want anything to do with God, or they were from radical backgrounds, anti-God backgrounds and then they come and have this experience that then made them become a Christian and so that was that was how I um started my journey of um finding hope through Christ finding hope through Christianity and and that was it 2016 was when I 10 years ago 10 years ago yeah I had a problem with alcohol it took me a while to come out of that it took me a while to have my mind restored the way I was thinking because I'd have these ups and downs where one minute I'm really happy.

52:25The next minute I want to commit suicide drive off a bridge and it was just irrational. How long has that been more balanced now? I'd say it was 2018. Yeah, because I got, it was the last time I drank a drop of alcohol was 2018. So eight years clean. Eight years clean. Fully lent into Christ. Fully. So tell me about your life. How does your previous life living as a Muslim compare to your life now living as a Christian? Yeah. Here's something to end this interview with something real positive. Yeah. So for me, I was, the difference with Islam and Christianity is this, is that when I was trying to reach God, I was trying to please Allah.

53:07I was trying to please God and I was trying to do things to get God's favour and to do good things so that I could please God. That's what Islam is. You're serving God. You're the slave and he's the master. and in Islam you can never, ever, ever attain to get to God. You're just in the hope that you might please him and you might get reward at the end and you might make it to paradise eventually. And it was always this goal of straining and attaining God's pleasure and to please God. Christianity is not what I can do to get to God, not what I can do to please God, but Christianity is what has already been done.

53:55And it's what I can receive from what God has already done for me. Islam is about works. It's about what you can do for God, but Christianity is about what God has already done for us in sending his son, Jesus, to be the one that can set us free. You know, this is more than a religion. I felt like before I was just in religion trying to do good things. There was nothing inside of me that changed. There was nothing that felt different. There was nothing in me that felt new. I still was the same person just trying to be religious. I was the same person with the same, you know, just the same heart, the same desires, just trying to do good things.

54:34But when I met Jesus, when I met Christ, it was a change from the inside. I wasn't trying to please God, but he was changing me from the inside, making me into a new person. This is what the Bible says, that those who are in Christ, they're not just, you know, they're not just religious, but they're brand new people from the inside out. There's a change that comes, a transformation that comes in their life. So for me, I'll end it with this is that moment when I opened my heart to Jesus and I believed that it was the son of God, that he died on the cross, that he wasn't just a prophet, that I believed what the Bible said about him.

55:09I believed that what he said about himself being God himself in the flesh. It was like a light that just penetrated my heart. My heart was flooded with light and not just light, like a lightness, a feeling of lightness, but it was this energy that flooded my being, that flooded me with hope. And I knew, I just knew it wasn't, I'm not trying to get to God. I've met God. And you're now happy? Happy, yeah. Complete, fulfilled? Yeah, complete and fulfilled, yeah. Jinx. Remember you used to do it at school. You'd say the same word at the same time. You'd go, jinx. I've got one more question for you before I ask you that question.

55:49Where can people find you? What are your social media platforms? I am on Instagram. Yeah, just mainly on Instagram. And what's your tag? We'll put it in the description for you. Yeah, so it's Virginia Logan. Two N's. Virginia with two N's. Is that the same for ex-Facebook? Yeah, I'm not on ex. I'm not on YouTube yet. And I use Facebook, but not so much. But it's mainly Instagram that I'm on. Instagram's the main one. Okay, we'll put Virginia's links into the description. and I have got one more question for Virginia, which you'll all like to stay tuned, but do like and subscribe to the channel so I can keep having these chats.

56:21Final question is, if you was head of the Church of England, how would you reform it? Well, I mean, she'd already be removed, Sarah Mullally, but I would definitely kick her out of any office. I would make the Church of England biblical again. I'm a biblical believer. I believe that the Church of England have watered down Christianity. They're responsible for a lot of the problems we have in the church today, the reason why people are leaving the church. If I was head of the Church of England, I would return that church back to Christianity, back to true Christianity, back to biblical Christianity.

56:59And I would empower, I would use my power as the Church of England to influence government and to influence politics, because they have a lot of power and they're not using it in the way that they can yeah i would use it to influence those what i call the the structures of society the the leadership structures it structures in society and i would also um yeah i'd be straight up biblical i have this phrase and it's i'm not politically correct i'm biblically correct because as a christian if you're not stood on the bible you're stood on nothing what's literally true and what about the king what would you say to him oh the king I can't leave him out I'm disappointed in the King what he did last year when he, during Easter had an event in St George's St George's Suite of Windsor Castle it was an Islamic iftar celebration where they broke their fast and he facilitated that and yet didn't do anything for Easter Must do better Absolutely, must do a lot better he needs to repent and it was a phrase we used in Christianity.

58:13He needs to turn back to, I believe he's committed treason. I believe he has done the worst thing for us as a nation and I believe that he has let us down as a nation. So, yeah, not my favourite person. No, you and me both. And on that note, I wish you well. Stay safe, keep doing what you're doing. Don't get sent to jail and don't censor yourself and keep doing your thing. and I'll probably invite you back on this time next year to see how you're getting on. Amazing. Until then, good health. Great to be with you. Thank you.

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