Football HOOLIGAN: From Jail to Lottery Millionaire Author - Danny Wright's Wild Story

2 Apr 2026 · 53 min · 22 chapters

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In short

Danny Wright, a former Bradford City football hooligan, discusses how football “firms” organize violence, his jail stints, alleged links between firms and drugs, and his later life after winning £1 million on EuroMillions.

Guest backgrounds

Danny Wright is the author of a gritty UK crime-style book loosely based on his life; he says he was a main organiser for Bradford City’s firm “the Ointment,” involved in organized mob violence from 2000–2016 and convicted multiple times. Liam and Matt are the hosts; Liam asks questions and frames the discussion.

Key claims

Firms coordinate fights via contacts and phone-number “books,” agree on meeting points, and (he claims) avoid knives/guns though weapons like telescopic batons may appear. He says undercover police and CCTV were major risks. He claims some firm members sell cocaine in a hierarchy. He says violence is addictive and that he missed the “camaraderie.”

Notable examples

Leeds rivalries; a Leeds fan allegedly threatened to shoot him; he describes stamping on the man. First jail: 2.5 years for attacking a Rotherham-related pub incident (telescopic cosh mentioned). Second jail: 3.5 years for violent disorder after a Halifax incident. EuroMillions win: he checks emails abroad, sees £1,000,000, and describes a week-long disbelief and later spending on travel, property, and a property-developing company.

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Introduction to Danny Wright

0:45 to 2:35

Liam introduces Danny Wright and hints at his unique life story.

“Weapons are like things you can pick up.”

Danny's Life as a Football Hooligan

2:35 to 4:06

Danny shares his experiences and views on football hooligan culture.

“You've won a million pounds on the Euro lottery, which we'll come back to.”

The Nature of Football Firms

4:06 to 5:36

Discussion about the structure, roles, and operations of football firms.

“And how many of you was in the actual firm?”

Violence and Rivalries in Football

5:36 to 8:02

Danny discusses rivalries, violence, and notable incidents in his hooligan life.

“And was there, within the football violence scene, I mean, how do you even go about arranging a fight with another firm?”

The Thrill of Violence

8:02 to 9:29

Danny explains the addictive nature of football violence and the adrenaline rush.

“Obviously now when I look back, I think it was a bit out of order, that.”

Reputation and Firm Dynamics

9:29 to 11:03

Danny talks about how reputation affects football firms during confrontations.

“Every firm thinks they're the best firm.”

Personal Experiences and Fears

11:03 to 12:38

Danny shares personal stories about fear and violence in hooliganism.

“When you're in the middle of it, it feels good.”

Final Thoughts on Hooliganism

12:38 to 14:00

Danny reflects on his experiences and the impact of his past life.

“To the point where you lost your bottle and bounced.”

The Thrill of the Fight: Hooligan Culture

14:38 to 16:56

Danny discusses the adrenaline and camaraderie of being part of a football firm.

“Yeah, so then I was shitting myself, but in that situation, you had no choice but to fight for your life.”

First Jail Experience: Consequences of Violence

16:57 to 17:56

Danny recounts his first prison stint after a violent altercation.

“And how did you land up in jail for the first time?”
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Legal Troubles: The Court and Sentencing

17:57 to 19:15

Danny shares details about his court case and the legal repercussions he faced.

“I'm going to guess about eight weeks later.”

Life in Prison: Survival and Comradery

19:16 to 22:27

Danny reflects on his experiences and relationships formed during his time in jail.

“And did you think to yourself, I'll be in and out, or did you think, I'm going to get bird for what I've done?”

Return to the Outside: Struggles Post-Prison

22:28 to 23:36

Danny discusses his return to life after prison and the difficulties he faced.

“I'm not one of them lads, though, that wants to be in jail.”

Back in the Game: The Cycle of Violence

23:37 to 25:16

Danny talks about his return to football violence and the challenges he encountered.

“So you was at it for another eight years?”

Reflection on the Justice System

25:17 to 27:23

Danny shares his thoughts on the justice system following his experiences.

“Okay, and had prison changed in that time?”

Breaking Free: The Decision to Change

27:24 to 28:00

Danny discusses his realization and decision to step away from violence.

“I kind of thought, well, Danny, you got away with a lot worse than this.”

Challenges in Football Hooliganism

28:00 to 31:31

Learn about the challenges faced by football hooligans, including law enforcement and criminal activity.

“Like what was the thing that got in the way the most?”

Winning the Lottery and Its Aftermath

31:31 to 35:38

Danny shares his experiences of winning a million pounds in the Euro Millions and the emotional rollercoaster that followed.

“When you play Euro Millions, which is like the big one for the National Lottery, every time you play it in Britain, so there's obviously the big draw.”

Reflections on Community and Hooliganism

35:54 to 39:41

Discussion on the lessons learned from being part of a football firm and the importance of community and purpose.

“And I'm not really asked about, like, when you're younger, it's all about reputation and stuff like that, innit?”

Views on Society and Government

39:41 to 42:00

Danny shares his controversial views on societal issues, government organization, and immigration.

“And what did being part of a tribe teach you?”

Cultural Perspectives on Immigration and National Identity

42:00 to 50:18

Explore the perspectives on immigration and its impact on national identity.

“Because the more people here, the more people they can tax.”

Danny Wright's Writing Journey and Future Plans

51:56 to 55:44

Danny shares insights about his writing process and future books.

“Yeah, some really good moments of humour in it.”
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0:42Make your move. Order on the Sweetgreen app. How do you even go about arranging a fight with another firm? Weapons are like things you can pick up. Someone might bring a telescopic cosh, but you never see like a knife or a gun. Every firm thinks they're the best firm. When two firms meet and fight, can you bite holes out of each other? My mate got his ear a bit off at all, actually, so it does happen. Was there ever a situation where your arsehole completely went? No comment. Always no comment. Sensible. British people, they need to start sticking together. You're more powerful together, aren't you?

1:09And if you're not sticking together, you're fucked. I think they want this country to be a third world shithole. It's a bit of a trick because everyone gets so upset about illegals coming in. Nobody actually notices how many are coming in legally. Time for white people, me now. People don't like that, but I am. Fucking 8 % of the world's white. I wouldn't allow anyone who comes from an immigrant background to be an MP. Multiculturalism was a mistake. It doesn't work. I don't see many Christians hacking people's heads off and shouting, God is great, afterwards.

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2:33Danny, thanks for coming on. Liam, thanks for having me, Matt. Pleasure. Wild story. You've won a million pounds on the Euro lottery, which we'll come back to. I want to know what it's like to win a million pounds because we all talk about if I won the lottery. I say that I don't, but a lot of people do. And then they go off on a tangent about what they'd spend it on and how they do it. It's like, you're never going to win it, but you have. But first of all, you've had a very interesting life in and out of jail, football hooliganism, firms. So the first question is, if your life was a film, what would it be?

3:04I don't think it could be a film. I think it'd have to be a TV series, like a six-part TV series, to be fair. A musical. No, definitely not a musical. I hate musicals. But do you know what I think it'd be? Because obviously it'd be a bit like my book. it'd be loosely based on my life, but it'd be a gritty UK crime series, really. That's what it'd be. Obviously, a footballer who wins in it, but kind of like a British wire, I think, maybe. That'd be interesting. Yeah, that's the plan. And it's funny you mention criminality, because I'm going to get to this down the line, because I want to know the links between crime and football firms and how they're entwined in bits and pieces, because we've all seen ID and Football Factory and bits and pieces, but you've lived a real-life Football Factory life, haven't you?

3:45Yeah, yeah. Football Factory is very real to life, I would say. Out of all the films, that's the most realistic? Yeah, I would say so, yeah. That's interesting to know. That makes me want to go and watch it again, because I've forgotten what's happened in the football factory. But who are the ointment? So the ointment, Bradford City's firm, which obviously Bradford's always been in lower leagues, but most of the weeks we get 20 ,000 fans. So we are quite a big club for a lower league firm. And how many of you was in the actual firm? Depends what day of week it is. If we played Leeds, 300, but most of the time 100.

4:14And just for people that don't know, what is a football firm? So football firms, a group of lads who go to football usually dress pretty smart and want to have a fight with the other group of lads who go to football like them. So that's what basically a firm is. You're all organised, try to look for a fight with the other firms. Organised violence amongst different football teams. Yes, yes. And so the ointment, what was your role, responsibility and duties? I always hate it when people ask me this question because I feel like I'm not upsetting it. But I was one of the main lads, really. I had a lot of respect and people looking up to me from quite a young age, really.

4:48And I was involved in organising our mob and organising other violence with other mobs. I did like getting stuck in and I was quite popular. How did that even begin? How did you even get into that? I just kind of fell into it, really, out of school. Obviously, I loved City, so I used to go to City. And then as a young lad, you like going out, don't you? Having a drink. And then you see all these other lads that are older than you all fucking like getting a bit of respect around town and that dorm and showing them respect. You think, oh, I want a bit of that. I just like started hanging about with them.

5:18Got stuck in a few times. You just work your way up the ranks, really. And was you more of the organiser or was you more hands-on, I'm going to kick your fucking head in material? Again, I'm going to sound like a knob here, but both, really. I liked both. So I would be probably, a lot of people would say I would have been organising in our firm for a lot of years and then obviously going to jail a few times. I liked having a fight, didn't I? Because I kept getting caught. What was your favourite? The admin or the physicality of it? Physicality, definitely, yeah. 100%, yeah. And was there, within the football violence scene, I mean, how do you even go about arranging a fight with another firm?

5:50A lot of people probably don't know this, but usually, like, you're friends with other firms, so you might know each other from, maybe some lads will know each other from working on building sites or stuff like that, or they might know each other from other parts of work, or you just know each other, and then say, we might be playing Norwich or something, I don't know anyone from Norwich, but I might ring another firm and he might know someone from Norwich or whatever, and you just pass the numbers around like that. That's how it used to be. I used to have a book, firm names written at, like lads from different firms all written at.

6:23So you've got their direct number, you call up and say, this is where we're going to meet. Yeah. Is there rules of engagement? Is there a line that you don't cross? Yeah. Usually when someone's getting their shit kicked out of them, you stop them, yeah. and like weapons, weapons are like things you can pick up, yeah, or someone might bring a telescopic cosh but you never see like a knife or a gun. If one of our lads were taking a knife, I'd have a serious word with him about that, you know what I mean? You don't want no one getting stabbed. But then rivalries can go over the top sometimes and it can get a bit personal and you might not stop kicking someone sometimes, you know what I mean?

6:57Did anything go beyond the pal in your experience in the ointment? Yeah, a couple of times. It'd be with Leeds, I think, really, a couple of times, yeah. They were the worst ones? They were the worst ones for us because we fucking hated them. Right. Because they're like, obviously it's hard to explain when you're, Leeds and Bradford are two big cities, but obviously Leeds is a famous city. Bradford's just like, everyone looks down the nose at Bradford. So when you've got your next door neighbours doing well, obviously you're a bit bitter about that, aren't you? So is there actual genuine animosity between the two of you?

7:28Yeah, definitely, yeah. It's calmed down a lot more than the years, but yeah. Was there an example that you can give me where it was just too much? Yeah, there is one. One time, a Leeds fan threatened to shoot me, yeah, but he was from Bradford. He was telling people that he was going to shoot me. So I seen him in the pub and I fucking pagged him and I stamped all over his head. It was a bit out of order, to be fair. I remember one of my older mates pulled me off saying he's had enough and I was saying, like, I'll fucking say when he's had enough and going back and kicking him in the head. It was fucking out of order, really.

7:57I shouldn't have done it. But he was mouthing off at the same time, so, yeah. Is that kind of an all-faring love and war type thing? Yeah. Obviously now when I look back, I think it was a bit out of order, that. See, if you're getting involved in group pack violence, it's always, I mean, I remember stories back in the day on the terraces where people would go behind someone and slice them down the back of a Stanley knife. Yeah, that was 80s, wasn't it? A bit before my time, that. But yeah, I think in 80s, knives were fair game. Yeah, I think even more than fair game. I think a lot of lads were at it.

8:26So your hooliganism took place in the 90s? No, 2000s me, like back. So I was 2000 to like 2016 last time I got sent to jail for it. So it was more fisticuffs than it was knives or tools. Yeah, yeah. And who was the toughest firm that you fought? Man United. Just loads of numbers, mate. And were you always outnumbered? Because if you're a smaller firm... Well, it depends. When we were in the Premier League, yeah, because obviously like Man United's teams like that, they're a lot bigger than us. But then when we've been in lower leagues, obviously we're a big club in lower leagues, so it depends.

9:00But yeah, we're like Man United. Their numbers are just too much. They had 600 one time at our place. So we couldn't compete with that. We tried. Yeah, I'm sure you did. But I know that you did because I've done a bit of research on you. And the firm, for the size of you, you was a decent firm, weren't you? Yeah, very good, I would say, a very good firm. Yeah, noticed by other firms that were bigger. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So does that help as well? On the day, does your reputation precede you? And do you have the edge on other firms if they know that you're capable and ready? I think sometimes, yeah.

9:29But then every firm thinks, you know what I always notice? Yeah. Every firm thinks they're the best firm. Every firm thinks that. Thinks, oh, when we've got all our main boys out, we're the best firm. You know what I mean? But I probably think that sometimes when we're all together, we're untouchable. So I don't know. I don't think anyone goes anywhere really thinking, fucking hell, we're going to get done in here. It's when you go somewhere with like 10 or 15 a year and you're thinking, fuck me, this could come on top of you. And was you violent before you got into football violence? or was it football that brought the violence out of you?

10:00Nah, we're always pretty violent, really. I always liked having a fight. Like, I was getting suspended from school for having fights and stuff like that, yeah. Why do you think you was violent as a kid? I don't really know, you know. Good upbringing? Yeah, both my parents were fine. No complaints there. So, I don't really know. I think I just always... Me and my friend were on about this. My friend's on running Thailand. I went to see him last year. And we were on about it because we went to school together, were like primary school and high school and everyone else were like proper well behaved and us two just always wanted to be like little gangsters really which were weird because we both came from nice families so yeah I don't know why I were like that I just always what?

10:40What did your parents think of your behaviour? Probably not overly happy with it were they? I bet they didn't mind when you were on the lottery though No no no We'll come to that bit so when you're in the football violence in the whole whirlwind of it all does it become addictive? Oh yeah it's like a drug It's very hard to give up because you're going out and obviously, whatever anyone says, the thrill of violence, it's a good feeling, isn't it? When you're in the middle of it, it feels good. And then like afterwards, you've got that buzz about it. And obviously then you've got the, like when you're going out and you're all in a club and people are thinking, fucking hell, that's the ointment over there or whatever.

11:17And yeah, there's all that as well. That's part of it, isn't it? That's a big addiction. Rattle off a few firms that people may be familiar with. Who are the top firms, the most notorious? So Man United, obviously Millwall, the Bushwhackers, West Ham, the ICF, Leeds United, the service crew, Pompey, 657 crew, Tottenham, the Yids, Newcastle, the Gremlins. Yeah, there's loads, but they're some of the biggest. Is Tottenham's firm actually called the Yids? Yids, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ah, I thought other firms were calling that to sort of take the piss out of them. You know, well, I think that's how it started.

11:52Obviously, I'm not a Tottenham fan, but that's how I assume it started. A bit like Birmingham Zulus. I think that's how that started with that. And a lot of people that indulge in pack violence and group violence, not all of them are as tough when they're on their own. No. Would you pick out these people that would rely on the team and was there ones like you? Was you as capable one-on-one as you were with all your friends around you? I don't know if I was capable, but I've had plenty of one-on-one fights. And if someone asked me for a one-on-one fight, I've always had it with them. but I must admit I didn't like fighting one-on-one I hated like I don't know I don't know how boxers do it you know like if you've organised a fight with someone days before the fucking nerves used to absolutely do my head in and then like say you're meeting in a pub car park and there's 30 or 40 people in a circle and you're having a fight in the middle I fucking hated that feeling I hated it I used to always be thinking like don't fuck up here and get chinged reputations in ruins you know was there ever a situation where your arsehole completely went.

12:53To the point where you lost your bottle and bounced. Oh, yeah. I've been chased twice, once by Wigan and once by Brentford. Both times, I want many of us, and they're just fucking overrunners. But at the time where I actually thought, fuck me, I'm going to die here, we went to Blackpool, I'm thinking about 2007, and Blackpool had a good firm at this time. They were like, they'd done not forest week before, and I think about 30 of us went to minibuses. Anyway, I were on a ban, so I couldn't go in the town centre, so they've had a big fight before a game, and I think Blackpool got better of it, so I said, well, go back.

13:26So we've gone outside to get in taxis, but there's only two taxis, so we've pulled up at this pub. As soon as we walked in pub, about fucking 80 Blackpool, I've attacked the pub. We're holding front door, like, trying to keep them out, and then fucking, I just, do you know when you know you're on your own? I remember shouting, like, my best mate, Bongo, where the fuck are you? He goes, they've come in back door. Bongo. Yeah, that's his name. That's his name. That last way gets it from a magic. Propel Fitness Water. With Gatorade electrolytes, zero sugar, and vitamins, Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self.

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14:42Rainbow, that's it, yeah. Rainbow. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so then I was shitting myself, but in that situation, you had no choice but to fight for your life. Nah. Because there was no way to go. So when you were arranging these fights with another firm, do you agree on numbers? Because surely, like, if you say, well, we've got 15, but you've got 115, we'll go for it. I mean, that surely can't happen. Yeah, that happens, yeah. That's something I would say about us. We were always a bit stupid. Like, if you said to us, oh, there were only 10 of us, but they were under and out of road, we'd still egg each other on and say, fuck it, we'll go anyway.

15:15we'll go anywhere just because we're fucking a bit nuts but yeah you always tell each other how many numbers they are and then it's up to other firms if they want to come like some firms won't do that if they're outnumbered they won't come yeah so you wouldn't lose any face if you said look there's four times the amount of you we're going to park this one up no you wouldn't lose any face but then I always think that's a bit I never really liked that because I used to think well I'd go even when we're there's fucking not many of us we still go I got me on yeah well I don't know if I got me on but we We used to still go.

15:45So I used to think like big firms used to hang on to that reputation because obviously they didn't want to get done by little firms. And what's the camaraderie like within the firms? Oh, brilliant. That's the thing I miss most. Is that what sucks you in more than anything? Yeah, yeah. You're part of something, a team. Because a lot of white British males in particular, we sort of fly solo. We don't stick together like other groups do or other races or religious groups. I've always found that white British men, they tend to fly solo. And more so as we've progressed and we've got older and older, it's each man for himself.

16:22And I like the idea of community, whether you want to spend your time with your community, punching holes out of each other, but community is community. Yeah, I agree. And if that's the only way of bringing the community back, then maybe we should like relaunch football violence. I mean, it still goes on today, doesn't it? But yeah, that was the biggest thing. Sorry, Liam, the camaraderie you asked me about. Yeah, I miss that now. I miss like having someone that, you know, you're always together. Like me and some of my mates, we'd go to gym together or we'd be playing five a side on a night. Or if one of us had trouble, we'd all be there in a second.

16:54You know, I miss that part of it. That is what pulled me in. That was the best part of it for me. You were like brothers, really. You were brothers. And how did you land up in jail for the first time? Because you've done a few stints in there, haven't you? Two stints in jail. So the first time I got two and a half years for fighting with Rotherham. So we've attacked this pub and I ended up going, I've run in the pub and I ended up like whacking this lad. And then I've got dragged in the middle of him. They've fucking, I'll tell the truth. I had a telescopic kosher on me, a jacket and my trainer.

17:24And they've pulled me in the middle, pagged me. Bungle had holding me belt. Like he's pulled me out. I lost my kosher. I lost my jacket. Come out with only one trainer and my head is, I'm absolutely fuming thinking you fucking cheeky bastards. So they've come out the pub. So I've like just fired into them. And then my mate shouted me saying, Danny, fucking undercover police car there, you know, with camera just filming us. But by that time, I'd fucked it anyway. So I just carried on fighting because I thought, well, I'm going to jail now anyway. So I might as well just carry on. In for a penny, in for a pound.

17:52Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when did you get nicked? At the time or did they come and see you after? No, after they came about, I'm going to guess about eight weeks later. Did you think you got away with it? No. Oh, you knew they were coming? If you ever see the video, you can see on my face I just see the camera just go like like that so yeah no there was no way we're getting away with that you got me did you ever feel any remorse for hurting people just over a football team nah because it wasn't ever anyone that like were innocent it were always lads against lads yeah did you ever hurt anybody badly at football I don't think I've ever hurt anybody what are we saying is badly putting them in a coma broken bones caved in cheekbones maybe broken jaws I've broke jaws yeah I've broke jaws I've never put no one in a coma.

18:36What about teeth? Is that fair game when two firms meet and fight? Can you bite holes out of each other? Do you know what? I've never actually thought about that. Good question. Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know what... I suppose if you bit someone's ear off, I mean, my mate got his ear bit off at all, actually. So it does happen, yeah. Yeah, it probably is just about fair, yeah, fair. Kind of on the verge of strong, innit? I've never bit anyone, mate. I've just thought about that. It's something I've never done. Mate, you don't know what you're missing. So what happened then? So you get nicked.

19:04Yeah. Was you living at home or was you away from home? No, I had my own house by then. I was 24. Job, business? I had my own business then, yeah. So you've got shit to lose and you're still out fighting with Bungle. That's part of it, isn't it? So they take you to the station. Yeah. And did you think to yourself, I'll be in and out, or did you think, I'm going to get bird for what I've done? I knew I'd get bird because I were quite, at that time, I were like quite a, to the Bradford police, I'd have been like the main target I would have fought at that time. So I knew I would get in jail for it.

19:32I just didn't think I'd probably get as much jail as I got for it. What was the charge? A three, and they gave me two and a half years, and I pled guilty straight away. You're not allowed to do that. You've got to give me two years, but you give me more, and I ended up having to go to a court of appeal and get six months off. Oh, so you did win that in the end? There was no way I couldn't win it. It's actual law that he couldn't give me that sentence. What, were they hoping that you just weren't going to appeal it? I don't know. I think he hated me. He hated me, that judge. So did you give a no-comment interview?

19:59No comment. Always no comment. Sensible. And then what happened? Remand? So, yeah, I got remanded, sent to jail. Then I got took back and they sent us mate two and a half years. And that was the first time in jail? First time, yeah. What was that like? Well, obviously, you know, I'm not going to lie, it was a bit scary, like Armley prison in jail. And you hear all these stories, don't you, about men getting raped and fucking... There used to be bad stories about screws just beating lads up in Armley jail for no reason. So obviously you've got all that in the back of your mind. But you can't show it, can you?

20:30you can't like start me showing that you're a bit scared. But yeah, obviously I was scared. Did you have any hairy moments in there? Did you have to fight in there? Yeah, I've had a couple of fights in jail, yeah. Was that over football or something different? No, I don't think I had a fight over football. I had a fight with a black kid who took a cigarette out of my mouth and I told him he had three seconds to put it back. So I said one and then he said two, so I headbutted him. Yeah, it seems. In my field wax. Did you get your snout back? No, it fell on the floor, but... Oh, did you just spark up a new one?

20:58Yeah, I just rolled a new one. Got to do another one now. Did you get outside charges because of that? No, because it was like 2008 then. Obviously, if you did something really bad then, but for a fight, they weren't really doing outside charges then. So here's the thing. White football hooligan, headbutts a black man in jail. Did you get branded or tagged with anything in there after that? No, to be fair, he never said out about it. He just took his beating and left out of that, to be fair. He never grasped me up or out. I mean, if you'd have said a nasty comment about him on X or Twitter, you'd have been a racist for the rest of your life.

21:28Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But there was none of that in there. Was there any rivalry in there? Were the screws okay with you? Yeah, the screws were okay. Most screws just want an easy time, don't they? They just want to sit in office and do fuck all. That's been my experience, the screws. Obviously, security screws, they can be arseholes here and there, but most screws on wing just don't want to do all, do they? That's just an easy fucking job. And how did you spend the time doing your bird? Nose clean? Yeah, obviously trained a lot, and then just doing education or laundry man, stuff like that.

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21:59you just end up being yourself in there really and that's what happens if someone says something to you you just fucking stick it on them don't you just the same was there anything in there that made you think to yourself fuck coming back here again because some people go in and out of jail they have a lovely time and they sort of think I don't care if I come back here or not other people that go in there and their cellmate will top himself and it'll just be so much for them they think I never want to go there again for example yeah well obviously not because I went there again I went there again so no yeah so you had quite a nice time I had an alright time, yeah.

22:30I'm not one of them lads, though, that wants to be in jail. I'm sure you probably know lads that like being in jail because it's the only place they can earn money. And they're institutionalised as well. Yeah. So you've done your bird, you get released. What did you think to yourself? No more football violence? Or did you think, I can't wait to get stuck back in again? I can't wait to get stuck back in again. Really? Yeah. I think I had a fight two weeks after being out two weeks, yeah. Fucking hell. I'm assuming your business folded while you was in there. Yeah, folded out to start again. Did you get the fight in first before you started the new business?

23:03No, I think I started the new business today. What was your priorities? Right, bit of Ireland tour, better sort my finances out. Do you know, honestly, back then, football came first. It came first before anything. You know when you come out, did the lads throw you a big party? Yeah. Beer gear, prostitutes. The full shebang. Yeah. Nice. How long did that last for? The night. Just a one-night bender? Yeah. Oh, the ointment needs to up their game, doesn't they? Well, they might have gone longer, but I couldn't go longer. I felt fucking awful. So then, how did it progress again? How did you end up in jail again?

23:34So it were eight years later, I ended up in jail then again. So you was at it for another eight years? I was in and out for eight years then. So when I first come back, I was still at it, but obviously because I was banned, it was getting harder and harder. And then I started, like, earning good money, so I thought, right, we'll knock this on to Ed. And then I come off my ban, and then lads came. obviously because I come off, we started getting a bit of a firm together again. And then we went to Halifax on one of the lads' head wetting. And these lads come in, like, carrying on. So all the young 'uns have filled them in.

24:06But you know what young 'uns are like? They're vicious, aren't they? And we were outnumbering these lads. So I've ended up... But one of them were gamers' fuck, like, saying, come on. Again, it were leads, as usual. It's a bit of hatred for us. So I've, like, grabbed him. And you're going to say this is bullshit, yeah? People are going to think this is bullshit, but it's not. So I've grabbed him and like shook him and says, listen, fucking stay on the floor or they're going to fucking kill you, yeah? But of course I've done that and we've gone off camera when I've done it, yeah? So we're out there, eye of the camera.

24:34It's like, so they've said, the prosecution have stitched me up and they knew they stitched me up. They're saying that they can see my arm coming back and forward, yeah? So I've punched him when I'm off camera six or seven times. But then when I step back on camera, you can still see what they said with my arm going back and forward. I got three and a half years for that. Didn't the geezer say he was shaking me? He never come to court, no. In fact, I think he died before the trial. I think he might have killed himself, actually, but I'm not sure. I didn't know the lad, but he definitely died. Fucking hell.

25:04So eight years in the clean. Did you build your business back up in that time? Yeah, we're doing really well at the time, yeah. So this was more of a kick in the bollocks than the first one? Yeah, definitely, definitely. So in the space of eight years, so what year was the first stint? 2008, 2016. Okay, and had prison changed in that time? Yeah, definitely by the end of my sentence, you could see you like, because they always bang them up all the time now, don't they? I don't think they get out a lot now, prisoners, because they ain't enough screws. So yeah, it definitely changed that way. But it was still probably the same as, like, it's still the same sort of people in there.

25:36I mean, fucking, I must have seen 20 people in there that were in there with me the first time, you know what I mean? It's the same people. Any aggro in there for you? Yeah, a bit, a bit. I broke somebody's jaw. It's always you that's fucking banging people. Not always, believe me. I've been banged plenty. What, in there? No, I never got banged in there, no. So, Geoff, you was all right? Yeah, we're all right, mate. We're all right. I've been having your snout nicked. Yeah, we were there. That was the first time, yeah. The second time, there were like four or five of us all from Bradford, all good lads, and we used to train together, go to gym.

26:09I got this right good job in jail where all I had to do in the morning would go down and like... So you get like a book that tells you what you're doing when you first come to jail, like how you get a VO in or how you sort your visitors out. All I had to do in the morning was that, and then I could go to a gym for a stick to me. And, I mean, surely after two times in jail, you thought maybe it's best I leave the ointment or not? 100%, yeah. I thought I need to stop what I'm doing. But it's very hard to leave, like, all your mates behind, isn't it? That part's very hard. But obviously I don't really go to football anymore.

26:39Sometimes I go, but I try and behave myself when I do. But, yeah, so I did think, though, I need to change my fucking life here because every time I get nicked for fighting, I'm getting sent to jail. And they're just getting bigger and bigger. So what am I going to do? Six years in jail. Yeah, because a lot of people, they'll be fighting all the time and they never get sent to jail. So they must have wanted you in there every time you get caught fighting, you're straight in jail. Oh, 100%, yeah. Especially if you've got a good defence where like, no, I'm shaking him, sort of doing him a favour, saying just play dead.

27:09If not, they'll kill you. That's basically what you're saying. Yeah. And what did they charge you with then? Violent disorder. A violent disorder for three and a half years. How did that make you feel about the justice system? Well, I don't rate the justice system at all. It's a fucking joke. But at the same time, I've got quite a good outlook on life. I kind of thought, well, Danny, you got away with a lot worse than this. So maybe it's just God teaching you a lesson. Yeah, live by the sword, die by the sword. So when you get released the second time, what was your first port of call? What did you do?

27:37What did you change? I think I went shopping when we first port of call. But then obviously I just thought to myself, I can't be doing this anymore. So I need to be like earning money and this is just fucking knocking me back all the time. So I need to stay out. Shifting to work. Yeah. When you were right in the eye of the storm of football violence, what were your biggest hurdles? Police blocking the arranged fire or CCTV? Like what was the thing that got in the way the most? Obviously CCTV were a problem, yeah, but we were quite organised. So we'd go like, if I were setting up a fight with someone, I'd go the week before and have a look at the place and think, right, there's no CCTV here, we'll meet here.

28:15But obviously sometimes emotions can run high, so that was always a problem. But I'd say, like, obviously the biggest problem for me were undercover police cars, because that's what caught me. What about undercover police officers that infiltrated the film? A bit like ID. Yeah. When John infiltrates Shadwell Army, those that have seen the film. Yeah. I think down the years we had a couple who tried it, but again, it'd be very hard to do at Bradford because we're so close-knit. Was you always in a state of paranoia and kind of like vetting everyone? Because for me, I'd think if I don't know this person, all of a sudden he's come and he's chinned a few people he wants in on the firm because also what goes on behind the scenes, what criminality takes place?

28:57Because if you look at the films, the football firm, the violence, the meets, the eruptions, that's kind of a front for something more sinister going on, more organised in the background. Is that the case? There's definitely lads at football who are involved in criminality, you know, like, and they're usually doing it together as well. So, I don't know, let's take an example, cocaine, yeah? So there'll be lads in firms who are selling cocaine, yeah? And they're making a lot of money out of it because there'll be a hierarchy to that. The higher up you are, you'll be selling it down to lads who are a bit lower than you, and they'll be selling it to lads who are a bit lower than them.

29:38Now, that's not something that all the lads are up to. Most lads at football are straight pecs who are electricians, plumbers, all that stuff. But obviously, yeah, if you're a drug dealer in a football firm, you can earn good money, very good money. Did you see a lot of people's lives get completely destroyed through the addiction of football violence? Like someone that is an electrician or a plumber with a wife and a kid, and they just cannot resist that Saturday fight. And in the end, the wife leaves them and everything turns to pop. There's a lot of lads that wives have left them, yeah. And I don't know if it is because of the football or not, but it probably is, isn't it?

30:10Yeah. And then when you left the whole football violence scene, what did you do to fill that void? And was it an emotional transition? Oh, yeah. It was hard. Even now, sometimes I think in my head, oh, I wouldn't mind just doing that one more time. Even now, you feel like welling up.

30:29Fucking miss them days. But sometimes I do think, oh, I wish I were fucking out, you know with all lads doing that kicking someone's head in yeah but what what filled the void definitely like making money i always liked making money that were always something that i liked and i liked like being able to do whatever i wanted to do when i want you know when i wanted it but in the past few years i don't really want to do anything other than write that's all i want to do because like well this is the last six months in fact because even if i go out all the same is you haven't fucking written that book you've got six books to write go back to what you're fucking doing now?

31:03You need to write them. But the thing that has really filled the void for it is that writing because like I've had people come up to me saying, oh, I fucking love your book. And I've had people say to me it's the best book they've ever read, which is a fucking right buzz that I've got to say. In fact, it's better than football that. It's got good reviews, but let me go back to, you mentioned money. Yeah. So talking of money. Yeah. You won a million pound. Yes. On the Euro Millions. Talk me through that story and I want you to get in touch with your feelings now because I want to know what the fuck does that feel like?

31:31Was it a scratch card or? Do you know Euro Millions? Have you ever played it? I've never, ever gambled in my life. Right. When you play Euro Millions, which is like the big one for the National Lottery, every time you play it in Britain, so there's obviously the big draw. Let's say it's 100 million or whatever, yeah? But there's a little code at bottom and it'll be like X fucking, a load of numbers. And someone in Britain wins a million pound on that every time there's a draw. So I'm on holiday and I thought, oh, I'll check my fucking emails. emails, said I've won a prize. I've logged in to check it thinking it'd be£2.20 or something like that.

32:05Fucking looked at it and thought, fucking is that£1 ,000? And I was like, that's not£1 ,000, Danny. Fucking like, I must have counted it a hundred times, you know what I mean? Then I would look, fucking, my bird rinse shower and I would fucking just like Ric Flair. Woo! Woo! Jumping round the fucking room. Absolutely like brilliant. I mean, I couldn't tell you the fucking joy I felt. I can't tell you. Insane. Yeah, what it feels like. I couldn't tell you that. But then, I I'll tell you what was funny, because I were abroad and I rung them. I says, oh, because they give you like a code, you've got to ring them and then you tell them this code and then they say, yeah, you've won the fucking national lot.

32:39I bet they don't want to pay that out. This is what I'm going to say to you now, Liam. So of course I were abroad. I've said to them, oh, I'm abroad on holiday. Do I have to come back? But they goes, no, no, stay out there. They goes, but where have you put this ticket on? I said, oh, it's like a standing order. So it just comes at me, you know, like a direct debit. They goes, oh, that's all right, though, because if you had to put it on like that, we wouldn't have fucking paid you. So I thought, fucking hell, that's all right. But obviously then for 10 days I was thinking, are these cunts going to try and get out of this, you know, and not pay me.

33:08But anyway, they paid me the money. And do you know one thing I'll say? The National Lottery were absolutely brilliant. I couldn't ever say a bad word about them. So one day you're sitting there with your current account balance. Let's just say it's a grand. Yeah. And then just like that, there's a million pounds sat in there. Tax-free? Tax-free. How long did you stare at your bank statement with a lob on for? I think it took me a week to spend out Because I didn't want it to go Half a million, you know what I mean? I was thinking, fucking I don't want to spend this But you know, like, something that's weird about it Do you know, truthfully, after I won that money After a couple of weeks of the joy of it, yeah?

33:48Because I've always earned money, man I've always done alright And do you know what? I didn't really like the feeling of it And I used to think to myself You're just a fucking lucky bastard Everyone, and I used to think this all time, it's weird to say this, yeah, I used to think in my head, everyone in life now is just going to think you got lucky, that you didn't fucking work for this. And it used to drive me a bit insane, you know. In fact, I blew some of it, I think, just because I didn't fucking like it. Self-soothing. Yeah, yeah. This is traumatic for me. Yeah, I just didn't feel like I deserved it.

34:15The only person that wins a million quid is absolutely gutted. Oh, I think everybody's gutted, but nobody's ever told you that. I bet you wouldn't give it back, though, would you? No, I would have thought, no, I'd rather blow it. Yeah, I want to put it on the record that I'd have no regrets. I think lovely jubbly. I've paid me dues and now wallop. Here we go. Did you find out that you had all these friends you never knew about? Once you won a million quid. No, but I tell you what, I did find that out a bit after I did my first podcast about it. Yeah, I had a few people then come back to me. But at the first time, no.

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35:29The season's most desirable menu has returned to Sweetgreen, featuring fall's best dressed. Make your move. Order on the Sweetgreen app. Well, you know, because I've done all my research on it, and I know that everything you're saying, it all adds up, the violence, the jail. You look too nice and kind to be that man. People said that to you before. Yeah, people say that to me that I seem like... I think as I've got older, I've got a lot more level-edded. And I'm not really asked about, like, when you're younger, it's all about reputation and stuff like that, innit? Now I don't really care about that.

36:00They just wouldn't see you come and look at that nice, friendly bang. Did you ever use your friendly face to sort of fucking lull people into a full sense of security? No, I would pretty straight up just turn up and we'll fight. Wallop. Yeah. And when you had this million quid, was there any time that you fell off the line? I mean, if you're irresponsible and you've got a million pounds, I mean, it just brings out the irresponsibleness in you. I think money, anyone I know that's coming to money, whoever they are, it amplifies them. So who did you become once you were rich? So good question, isn't it?

36:34That's a great question. Yeah. So do you know what? It actually did change me a little bit. I actually, where before, I didn't really ever, I used to earn good money and I didn't really ever care about it. I used to just be like, well, I want to do this, so we'll go do this. But then when I won that money, I decided like, do you know what? You need to be a bit more careful with this. Obviously, at first, I did blow some. I went to Jamaica and got a villa. I thought I was Richard Branson for a couple of weeks. I went to Vegas. I always wanted to go to Vegas because I like gambling. I'll be honest with you, I did about 60 ,000 in a weekend.

37:05And then obviously, I bought my own house. I bought some other properties. is I put some into a property developing company and then, you know, just being pretty sensible with it, really. Which I wish I wasn't, because, you know, like, if I'd have just blown it all, I think everyone would buy me a book. Because they're like this, they're not interested in you because you're being sensible, they're not interested. No, you want to have a safety net. You get a million quid cleared funds, it's like, OK, let me just shift my thinking a little bit here. A hundred percent. And did the football violence stop after that point?

37:34It had stopped before that. It had stopped before that, yeah. Let me compare the country to, I suppose, football violence, football firms. Yeah. A lot of divide within the country. Is there anything you learn by being part of the football firm hooliganism scene that the country could learn and implement within our society and culture? It's funny you say that, Liam. It's a fucking outlandish question, but you can always learn something from something. Yeah. So what I would say on that, the one thing I learned is, yeah, Do you know, a snowflake, that's God's most delicate creation. But look what you can do when you all stick together.

38:10People have got to stick together. That's what I always think. Especially what I would say, like, British people, they need to start sticking together because all these other communities that come in here, they all stick together. They all vote together. They all help each other out. And we don't do that. And that's something we need to learn how to do. And when you were fighting for your firm, Was you all in? 90 % in? 80 % in? I was fucking all in, yeah. Okay, so would you fight for your country with the same gusto that you did fight for your club? 100 % yeah, yeah. I think the way our country's going, it might even come to that because I can see civil unrest here at some stage.

38:47So it might even come to that. And do you know the one thing that I wish I'd done, if I could do my life again, even though I loved football, I wouldn't have been a football hooligan. I'd have gone into army. Yeah, is there a lot of people with that militant mindset in football firms? Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of lads who were in the army as well, but I always think, I didn't like jail, but I did like routine, so I think I would have loved army me. Yeah, well, you haven't got to think, it's just autopilot, this is what you do, or even better, somebody telling you, do that, done. Yeah, I would have loved that, I think.

39:13Ah, okay, so you're the kind of person that can take instruction, or even orders. Actually, now you've said that, I might not have liked it, you know. No. Yeah, I might not have liked that part of it, yeah. If you had a leadership role in the ointment, that's a big difference to being shouted at and told what to do. Yeah, yeah, you're probably right about it. I think a lot of people need that, especially now. There's a lot of people that are just completely lost. I'd imagine the football scene attracts people that are lost. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. It gives people a purpose, doesn't it? And that's what everybody's looking for in life, aren't they?

39:40Whatever they say, they're all looking for a purpose. And what did being part of a tribe teach you? Just stick together. You're more powerful together, aren't you? Stronger together, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And if you're not sticking together, you're fucked. And what about vetting people, for example? I mean, you get some communities that someone within their community would do something atrocious and the rest of the community, because they're part of the same community, they'll sort of turn a blind eye or cover it up. I mean, we've seen a lot of that in the UK. Let's say, for example, the ointment, you knew that you had a rapist in your firm.

40:09How would that be dealt with? They'd be fucked, Liam. They'd definitely be fucked. They'd be getting battered. But, you know, honestly, if I'm being truthful, if we had a rapist in our firm and it'd come out that we were a rapist, I'm pretty sure we'd never see him again. He'd be fucking gone. You know, like, I don't even think he'd ever turn up, he'd move out of breath, he'd be gone, you know what I mean? Because we fucking hate shit like that. Like, I think it's quite a British thing to hate, like rapists and paedophiles, isn't it? I know other cultures do it, but I think we have a particular special hatred for it.

40:39Yes, I would say that we do. And also, I mean, it's insane that I even have to state this. I mean, we are predominantly white British country and predominantly paedophiles are white and British, which would make sense. Yeah. But we call them out. Oh, yeah, 100%. Like, there ain't no one on my watch getting away with someone like that. I don't give a fuck if they look like my twin brother. It's like, you're going to jail, mate. Oh, yeah. Or you're getting smashed. 100 % agree with that, yeah, yeah. Did you ever, was there ever an occasion where somebody was part of your firm that done something that you didn't approve of and they had to get made an example of?

41:12No, I've been very lucky on that. We've never had any, like, sex cases in our firm. Or fucking hell, if we have, we don't know about it. Or someone that goes home and bashes their missus when they're pierced or anything like that? No, it's never come out that, no. You sure you're not just protecting your own community? No, 100 % it's not happened to me. No, it's not happened to me that. I'm probably sure that we must have a wife be in a firm. We must do. But it's not something that I know about, no. And what do you think about the organisation? From a man that's organised teams and firms and lads and groups of people and different personalities and characters, they all come with their own individual problems.

41:45What do you think about the organisation of our government? Well, I think they're pretty organised when they're all going to fucking Epstein's Islands to fuck kids. But then rest of time, they're not, they look like they're disorganised, don't they? But I think they're disorganised on purpose. I think they do it on purpose. Because I think they want this country to be a third world shithole. Because the more people here, the more people they can tax. And people that come from third world are used to shit conditions. So they can push, like, you know, giving us holidays and stuff like that. They can push that out eventually.

42:15I think that is the plan eventually. So even though they are, they look like a shit show, I think they are actually doing it on purpose. So do you think the open borders that we've got, I mean, I know it's not policy, but do you think it's purposeful? Oh, 100%, yeah, I think it's purposeful. But I think with that as well, part of that is a bit of like, it's a bit of a trick because everyone gets so upset about, you know, the illegals coming in, but nobody actually notices how many are coming in legally, which is, in my opinion, is actually the real fucking problem. That's major. Yeah, major. We're letting in way too many people every year.

42:51Demographics are changing. And I never used to be like this, but I am really like this now. I've started, and people walk like this. I'm for white people, me now. And people don't like that, but I am. Fucking 8 % of the world's white. If we're not careful, there's not going to be no white people in a few fucking hundreds of years. And everybody says, oh, you know, like, you can't be like that, and everyone's got to be the same. But if we went to another country, if a white people went to another country and the demographics were changing like this, the fucking world would be an uproar. I mean, I wouldn't want Nigeria to become any less Nigerian.

43:25No. Or Africa. I like these places to be exactly as they have been for years because it makes it fun to go and visit them and spend a bit of time there and embrace their culture. Otherwise, if the whole world's the same, you wouldn't go anywhere. I 100 % agree with you. When I went to Thailand, I fucking hated it because it was full of Brits and Russians. Mate, I'm the same. There's a place I go regularly. I won't say what it is because I'll have people fucking chasing me over there. But there's a certain place I go and I've taken a few of my friends there and I've said to them, do you know what I like about here the most?

43:54They say, what's that, Liam? I say, there's no one here like us. I like going to places where we're minority because then we adapt to their culture and we take it all in and we show respect and gratitude. But I don't want to be a minority in my own country. We all have to have our own home that feels like home. 100 % yeah, yeah, 100 % agree on that. And being the CEO of the ointment and a millionaire, I mean you've got good credentials, how would you change the country? How would I change the country? This is another unpopular opinion, but I'm hoping Rupert Law is going to do what he says he's going to do.

44:33That's one thing I'm hoping. But probably about two years ago I hoped that about Nigel Farage, so I'm still open on that. But the one thing I would change is, this is going to be so fucking unpopular when I say this, but I wouldn't allow anyone who comes from an immigrant background to be an MP. That'd be one of my rules. You would have to be sort of a native. And when I mean native, people are going to just say this is white people. I would say you can't even be an MP if you're fucking Irish, Polish, something like that. I don't think dual MPs work. Like, you know, dual nationalities, like your loyalties and that.

45:08I don't think that works. So you're now of the mindset of what a lot of people are now shifting towards, that England is for the English. It's not just for the English, but I think decision-making is for, well, obviously not just the English, the English, Scottish and Welsh, yeah? But the decision-making is for them, yeah? So Britain is for the British, and we shouldn't be governed by anybody that's from outside that culture, belief system, origin? No, not for me, no, no. You don't see it in Dubai, you don't see it in Japan, it doesn't work. And I don't understand why this opinion that you've got has become controversial because that's every other country's philosophy and rulebook.

45:45I 100 % agree. Like for me, I'll use these two as an example because they're the biggest two right now. Like, so, well, actually, I don't know what we'd do. If someone were native English and they were Muslim, it'd be very hard to say they couldn't do it, could they? And same with a Jew, it'd be hard to say that. Well, see, I believe England is a Christian country. I agree with that, yeah. And I'm atheist, but I still respect the fact that as far back as I can ever remember, it's been a Christian country and it's been a good road map for people, you know, for their moral compass and their guidance and their faith.

46:16And, you know, it keeps them balanced, gives them a purpose. And when they're a little bit lost, it gives them that spiritual comfort. Yeah. So I think it should remain that way. And I think if someone's loyal to any other faith, then they shouldn't be in a position of power. What annoys me is... And that's controversial. Why? Yeah, I don't see. What annoys me is like when you see... They're two biggest for it. So you'll see like a Muslim, say, from Pakistan in there, yeah? And he'll be, all he's ever talking about is what they can do to help Pakistan. Or then the other one you'll see is a Jew who's always talking about Israel instead of Britain.

46:46None of them care about Britain. So for me, dual nationality don't work. Multiculturalism was a mistake. It doesn't work. Multi-races might work, but multiculturalism does not work. That is my philosophy exactly. Exactly. Multicoloured, multi-race, no problem. Multiculture, big problem. Yeah. There has to be a top tier culture, which is Christianity. Yeah. Yeah. It has to be. That's what it's always been. And, you know, I don't see many Christians hacking people's heads off and shouting God is great afterwards. No, no. I mean, I don't know if they do that in other countries, but I've never seen it here.

47:24They wouldn't get away with it in other countries. Put it this way. And this is how much you have to respect the land that you're in. I've just come back from Dubai. It was quite the experience, let me tell you. But when I was there, see, I don't want to be overtaken in the UK by Islam. Simple as that. But when I'm in Dubai, this is an Islamic country. When I can hear the call to prayer, I respect that. I lean into it. I enjoy it. These are your rules, okay? Over here, you come down on crime real fucking hard. You know what? I'm not going to do that. I'm going to behave. I'm going to play by your rules, your book, whatever you say goes, and I'm going to respect where I am.

48:06But we don't seem to have that over here. No, we don't because we had this bad idea that multiculturalism were going to work, didn't we? That's what we pushed for years, that multiculturalism is a strength. I mean, how has it all been different? How is anything that's different a strength? It's a weakness, isn't it? It always is, isn't it? Yeah, and I think there's no shame in saying, And really, I want to live with people that are of a similar mindset to me. It just makes life a hell of a lot easier. But again, pop around the globe and take on and embrace these other cultures. Great. But yeah, to mix them all together.

48:37Well, I mean, proof's in the pudding. Look at the fucking state we're in. I mean, colours, for example, like the strip, the ointment strip, your shirt, what you wear with pride to let people know this is who I am, this is who I love, this is what I stand for. A bit like the flag, Union Jack, the St. George's. That's now being put through. as actually being put through as a tool of hate by Keir Starmer. I mean, what are your thoughts on the flags being removed? I mean, imagine someone coming up to you saying, right, you see your football shirt, take it off. That's fucking disgusting because I didn't even know about that.

49:07I must have missed that. A tool of hate. Well, it was meant to be kept secret and it's leaked. That's a fucking joke because I love that flag. Everyone hanging out of my window at home. You know, I love that fucking flag. So that's a fucking joke. But this is what I mean. something needs to change, don't it? But do they do all this to get us, like, riled up? And is that what they want? Do they want? Well, usually what they want is they want to give you a problem so they can give you the fix, don't they? So is that what they're pushing for? They want, like, white nationalists out on the street causing trouble.

49:39Is that what they want? I don't know. Yeah, I almost feel like they're prodding nationalists so they react so they can then incarcerate them. I think they want them removed. I think anyone that's got an ounce of pride about their country, where they come from, their roots, I don't think it's welcomed by British government. I think they want you locked up, so if they can prod and prod and provoke and provoke, a bit like Southport riots, I bet they thought, lovely, look at all these fucking white British nationals. We're going to bang as many up as we can, and they did. It does seem like that's what they want, isn't it?

50:12It does seem like that. But we'll stop ranting about the country. Tell me more about your book and what the future holds for you. So this is my first novel. It's called Northern Monkeys. You can buy it anywhere, like Amazon Waterstones. If you want a signed copy, reach out to me. That's better, in fact, because I don't have to give Amazon the 60%. But what people don't understand about this book is, yeah, it's a book that has football hooligans in it, yeah, but it's not a football hooligan book. It's like a gritty crime novel that's basically, even though it's set in Bradford where I'm from, it could be any big city in Britain.

50:46It shows all the problems that cities have, like the drug trade, addiction, stuff like that. But the main thing that it shows is why young working class men make the decisions that they make. So it'll show you like why a footballer goes to football and does what he does, or why a gambling addict is in the book, he's blowing his brains out, you know. So it's more like, even though it's a fictional novel, it's more like a study of working class Britain. Propel Fitness Water. With Gatorade electrolytes, zero sugar and vitamins, Propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self.

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52:01Yeah, some really good moments of humour in it. There's like one of the football who writes a job application to the Bradford City chairman. That's really funny. People love that. But yeah, it's more dark. It's a bit like, like I said earlier, it's my six, because I'm going to do six of the books. It's a bit like a British version of The Wire. So you're going to write another five books. What's inspired you to do these books? I just always had the idea to do it. And then like I always thought, like the first book I always thought would be interesting to show like why football who can do what they do.

52:32and then I thought, right, we'll add a bit of gambling in this. I just always had like this fucking ace idea for the ending and so I just thought, right, let's just fucking, when I want money, I thought, right, you know what, this has given you the time now to write so I've just been writing that all the time. I just thought, I get them in my head all the time. It's like a weird thing like, say me and you are sat here talking and you'll say something to me and I'll just think, fucking hell, you could turn that into a novel and you could do this and do that and it just plays out in my head. You've gone into creative mode.

53:00Yeah, yeah. And is your brain clear? Have you got a clear runway to execute what you want to do? Or is there still a part of you that thinks the police still might have it in for me? Are you at peace now in your mind? I'm at peace, but I think if I, the police still have it in for me, yeah. Because I ain't caused no trouble for basically since I got out, let's say. Which was? So I got out in 2018. Okay. Yeah. So I ain't caused no trouble since then. But if I got arrested for, let's say, football again, they'd put it up that I was still, I'd been out every week causing that trouble when I hadn't, You know what I mean?

53:33And they won't consider these books as you profiting from crime, will they? Well, it's a fictional novel, isn't it? It's loosely based on my life, but there's nothing to say what's true and what's not, is there? Is that why you've gone down that route, so there's no obstacles in the way? A little, but I'll tell you really why I went down that route. It's just going to be honest. Have you ever read a football ooling book where they tell you, we went here and we had a fight with this firm and we had a fight with that firm? And I think they're fucking boring as fuck. That's just my opinion. I don't like them.

54:01so I just thought you could do it, but have a lot more to it, you know what I mean? Yeah, and I suppose it would be relatable for a lot of different individuals. Oh, anyone can relate to that book. I've had like posh housewives read it and they're like, oh, fucking hell, I love this book, you know what I mean? You don't have to be a football fan and like this book. Like I say, there is football hooligans in it, but it deals a lot with like the drug trade in Bradford. There's bits about heroin addicts and girls on prostitution, stuff like that. It's just a fucking crime novel, really. Yeah, because that's got nothing to do with football hooliganism, or has it?

54:34Is that where it ends for people? Yeah, it's nothing to do with football. Like I say, this book has got football hooligans in it, but it's not a football hooligan book. Okay, and where can people find you? They can find me on Instagram, TikTok. On TikTok, I'm NorthernMonkeyTheOrther. You see little videos on there. I'm on Facebook as well. They're the free. Okay, well, I'm going to ask you one more question, but before I do, I want to ask you to like and subscribe to the channel, please, so we can keep having these interesting guests, and I'm going to put all of Danny's links in the description so you can click on him, follow his journey.

55:06You'll see where you can buy the books there. And the final question for you is, if the ointment called you up now and said, Danny, we have got the biggest arranged fight that we've ever had. It's going to be nationalised on the telly. You'll never get this opportunity again. Would you be there with your steel toe cap Dr. Martens or would you say, I'm out? I think I'd say I'm out, but you can never say 100%, can you? Never say never. You can never say what you're going to do. you can't say that an addiction is an addiction but I think I'd say I'm out well if that call does come I'll be interested to see which way you go but until then mate stay out of trouble thank you thank you very much good luck with the book appreciate your honesty cheers mate cheers

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Danny Wright lived the ultimate Football Factory life — leading Bradford’s notorious firm The Ointment, organising violence, going toe-to-toe with Man United, Leeds, and some of the UK’s hardest hooligan crews… and doing two stretches in prison for it.

Then he won £1 million on the EuroMillions.


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Timestamps:

00:00 – Intro & Danny’s wild life

01:28 – “If my life was a film…”

03:04 – What is a football firm?

04:48 – Arranging fights & rules of engagement

07:05 – When violence went too far

10:39 – Most notorious firms in Britain

\12:18 – The time he thought he was going to die

16:00 – First time in jail

24:22 – Second stretch & the “off-camera” punch

33:48 – Winning £1,000,000 on EuroMillions

39:43 – Why the money felt weird

42:50 – Lessons from the firm the country needs to learn

53:53 – His new book Northern Monkeys


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